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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast today.

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Speaker 2: This week we had two episodes of Joey season, so

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Speaker 2: we're here to recap episode five. Ben, I don't have

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Speaker 2: much to say about this episode, Like, I don't have

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Speaker 2: many opinions. It's just kind of how it was to me.

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Speaker 3: Can you can you explain more? Please?

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Speaker 2: The past couple of weeks have had so many opinions

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Speaker 2: in so many ways that I feel like we can

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Speaker 2: interpret this and then like this, I was just like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: nice date, Okay, he really likes her, Okay, Lea is uh.

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Speaker 4: She's getting cringey.

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Speaker 2: But like, I don't have a ton to like interpret

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Speaker 2: except for like maybe again questioning like the whole like

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Speaker 2: Maria thing because now just doesn't like her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well that's fine, And this is how I

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Speaker 3: think we're gonna go about this episode. Then I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: ask you some questions that I want you to answer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, it's always me on the bought this season.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to do. We don't have if you

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Speaker 3: you said you don't have anything to say, and so.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Okay, fine, you're gonna try and make

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Speaker 2: me have opinions. It's fine, have go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I don't want you to feel on the spot, though,

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Speaker 2: But like, can I just say that I think he's

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest bachelors ever.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think that's very I think that's very true.

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Speaker 2: He is so good, he's good's so easy to watch,

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Speaker 2: he's so cute, he's smiley, he's engaging. The way he

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Speaker 2: looks at the girls like it's just I'm sorry to

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Speaker 2: the past few bachelors, but like this is just such

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Speaker 2: a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 3: No, I completely agree. I think that's why you see

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Speaker 3: the ratings going up. I think the show is now

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Speaker 3: going to take a lesson learned and said we cannot

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Speaker 3: continue like not.

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Speaker 4: We have to listen to the audience.

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Speaker 3: That's it. You have to listen to the audience. The

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Speaker 3: audience actually cares who they're going to be following each

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Speaker 3: week and who they're going to be rooting for. And

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Speaker 3: you just can't throw anybody in that spot. And I

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Speaker 3: hope that you make him likable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's carrying this show. The girls are great,

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Speaker 2: But you know how a lot of the times they

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Speaker 2: say like the Bachelor season is carried by the girls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that he's the star still, oh.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I was just talking to him yesterday

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Speaker 3: and I told him, well, he had asked if i'd

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Speaker 3: watch episodes and I said yes, and I said, hey,

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Speaker 3: you're doing great, man like, and we talked about some

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Speaker 3: other stuff that I won't get into, but I said, like,

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Speaker 3: now's the time. And we've talked a lot Joey and

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Speaker 3: I about what this looks like, like how does he

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Speaker 3: want this to go forward for him? Not in terms

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Speaker 3: of opportunity and fame and social media and all that,

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Speaker 3: but like who is he now to Bachelor Nation? And

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Speaker 3: how does he want to have a relationship with the

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Speaker 3: show or not a relationship with the show, and how

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Speaker 3: does he want to lead? And last night I think

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Speaker 3: I said the exact line to him. I said, right now,

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Speaker 3: like you have the really cool opportunity where you are

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Speaker 3: the leader of this show. It is not the villain,

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Speaker 3: It is not the most loveled loved character where some

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Speaker 3: sea since that it. You know, that's who we're kind

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Speaker 3: of watching and that's who's leading. Said, you are the

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Speaker 3: to do with that, you know, how are you going

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Speaker 3: to care for these people? And uh, he's great. I

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Speaker 3: mean I've really I you know this off you know, Mike,

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Speaker 3: I've had some really bad experiences with some recent bachelors

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Speaker 3: in just terms of how they've you know, and I

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Speaker 3: don't want them all to reach out if they don't

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Speaker 3: want my advice or help or support. I don't you

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Speaker 3: know that that's fine, But just the things they've said,

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Speaker 3: the decisions they've made, the way they've talked about the experience.

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Speaker 3: And Joey's like the opposite of all that. He's I

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Speaker 3: and I think this is only going to be a

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Speaker 3: thing to enhance his life. Yeah, so I've I've enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: I like watching him. I'm a big fan of him.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy for all of us.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy for all of us that we have somebody

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Speaker 3: who were cheering for And uh, I do have opinions

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Speaker 3: about this episode. Okay, So I don't want to put

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of kidding.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I want to know how it feels for

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Speaker 3: you with watching an episode and now breaking it down

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Speaker 3: without Sydney here, like, is this a breath of fresh

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Speaker 3: air for you? Or is it sad for you? Like?

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling emotionally walking into this recording?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I feel like a pretty relieved.

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Speaker 2: I feel relieved for Sydney that she's gone and she

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Speaker 4: For me and not having to, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, dance try to figure out you had to dance

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Speaker 2: at what to say, what not to say?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and dance is a good way of putting it, okay,

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Speaker 4: And then.

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Speaker 2: I just it's interesting the way that I do feel

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Speaker 2: like Leah kind of took over for Sydney, sure, but

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Speaker 2: with a totally different vibe.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's break down this episode from really the

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Speaker 3: start and so this started this episode. I do agree

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Speaker 3: with you that it didn't have the action as maybe

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Speaker 3: other episodes this season. We do start with a one

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Speaker 4: It wasn't boring. I'll say that it was not.

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Speaker 3: Boring with Kelsey A in a quick note here, you

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Speaker 3: know how you know the Bachelor knows it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a good season.

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Speaker 4: Oh, does the Bachelor know it's gonna be a good

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Speaker 4: season is.

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Speaker 3: When they do two back to back nights, because there's

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Speaker 3: been seasons where they've never done that because they don't

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Speaker 3: have enough content to share. I do feel like they

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Speaker 3: It felt like, yeah, it makes sense on why we

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Speaker 2: Well, they were only eliminating He only eliminated two girls

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Speaker 3: Everything's great, Okay. Kelsey A has the first one on one.

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Speaker 4: He's obsessed with her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one that we've been looking forward too.

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Speaker 3: She has been the quiet, confident, you know, top three

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Speaker 3: They are in Spain, another beautiful place. If you want

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Speaker 3: to talk about somebody being lucky, talk about Joey having

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Speaker 3: the two so far best travel spots of any bachelor ever.

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Speaker 4: Well, you've never been to Malta. You're just now obsessed

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Speaker 3: I think it's awesome. I want to know.

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Speaker 4: Spain is obviously beautiful as well.

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Speaker 3: You went to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I know you didn't have the best one either.

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Speaker 2: But Zach had a really good one last year too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he did. But this is two great spots, very beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Kelsey and Joey go on this date. It is I

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Speaker 2: I was directly comparing them when I was watching, just

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Speaker 3: There is a comfort, there's a flirtation. There is that hey,

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Speaker 3: It's a very beautiful day. It does feel like a

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Speaker 3: You can tell just in the words that she's saying

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Speaker 3: for me a lot of Like you know, I always

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Speaker 3: tend to analyze into these conversations way more than most

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Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of analyzation here for me other than

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Speaker 3: these are two people that probably really care about each

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Speaker 2: See That's what I meant at the top of the episode,

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Speaker 2: and I said there wasn't much to interpret, Like, there

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Speaker 3: Of course, isn't it interesting Ashley that every season? You know,

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Speaker 3: And then yesterday, obviously we talked about the messages Sydney

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Speaker 3: also experiencing some sort of pain somewhere somehow in their life,

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Speaker 3: I think it takes a lot of courage to share

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Speaker 3: Like I you know, I've lost my mother, I've lost

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Speaker 3: this show. Yeah, it was replaced with drama.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've always gotten the story, like the the

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Speaker 2: they never let these kinds of stories slip.

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Speaker 3: I feel no, but we would get like maybe two

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Speaker 3: or three of them a season. Right now, every date

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Speaker 3: Joey's been on, these women are courageous. They are sharing

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Speaker 3: saying that they haven't been courageous in the past. The

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Speaker 3: watch and we say, I feel like I'm not connected

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Speaker 3: We're four weeks into this thing, and I feel like

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Speaker 4: Do, I feel like most of them. Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting that I've noticed watching the past

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Speaker 2: Between this and last week the night before is Autumn

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Speaker 3: I never got to do that, really, I never got

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Speaker 2: Well sometimes it's a win, like yeah, because when I

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But when it's subjective, like it's it's up to

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Speaker 3: Well and Joey, I know, Joey, We've talked about it.

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Speaker 4: Like how do you respond? He does a great job

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Speaker 3: Well, I think for Joey it's I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: It means a lot. He's great at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sitting and listening, not necessarily trying to fix it,

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Speaker 3: So, but Maria does share a story. She does receive

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Speaker 3: And then we move on to Rachel's date, which is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought of her.

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Speaker 2: As a front runner, and this day was kind of

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Speaker 3: I think it was a very cute date outside of

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Speaker 3: The the two of them obviously have a great connection.

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Speaker 3: of the episode, but this date is very much for me.

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Speaker 2: Of goes down, not to mention that Leya during the

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00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 2: group date couldn't stop saying like this group date would

441
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: be better if Maria wasn't on it.

442
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 4: I can't stand Maria La La Lah.

443
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 2: And again, I'm just like, I need to know why

444
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: you guys hate her so much. Like we got like

445
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: a little bit of a taste though with the cocktail Party, because.

446
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: It didn't make me hate Maria.

447
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 2: I know. She says grow up to Jess because Jess

448
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 2: gets really annoyed because Maria interrupts Caitlin's time and she

449
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: already has a rose. So Jess is like, why are

450
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: you going after time with him if you already have

451
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: a rose and I haven't had any time with him

452
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: this week. Everybody, there's always a scene where somebody gets

453
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: annoyed over that. It's understandable. I'm always go back and

454
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: forth on the appropriateness of it.

455
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 4: I feel like.

456
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't if I had a rose. I'd probably

457
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: let everybody else talk first, even though I know that

458
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: some people have different interpretations they're like, oh, but then

459
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: you don't. Then you're like prioritizing your friendship with the

460
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: girls over your relationship with Joey blah blah blah.

461
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 4: I don't know.

462
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 2: So then when Jess brings it up, Maria seemed she

463
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: seemed a little dismissive.

464
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 4: Then she was like, you gotta grow up, Jess.

465
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: And then Jess didn't help herself though, when she said

466
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: you gotta grow.

467
00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: Up, bitch. You know, I know, here's the weirdest thing

468
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 3: right now because I am sensing that, yes, Maria is

469
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: rubbing a few people the wrong way.

470
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 2: And I just don't think they're showing it. I think

471
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: it must exist.

472
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 3: But it's Leah, it's Jess, it's Sydney at this point

473
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: that we know of, Okay, it's those three. That's the

474
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: people that we know are very annoyed. And those people

475
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: are very annoyed, like to the point where they're breaking

476
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: because of whatever is happening. Yeah, but here's the weirdest

477
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 3: side to me. As you're in the same room with

478
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 3: these women all the time, everybody's seeing pretty much everything

479
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 3: else that's going down. A lot of these women seem

480
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 3: very much not annoyed, very okay with Maria, very friendly

481
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 3: with Maria. They don't seem as hurt. Now, we've seen

482
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: it in season where there's been somebody that's really rubbed

483
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: every single human the wrong way, and it's very obvious.

484
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: So the confusing part to me is, I don't think

485
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: we've ever seen a situation where one person has really

486
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: disrupted a few and the rest are really cool with it.

487
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: So what is happening, Like, what is your assumption based

488
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: on living in this house, going through this experience, what

489
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: could be happening where there is only a few that

490
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: are very, very upset and others who don't seem the

491
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 3: care I don't really know.

492
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 2: It's not like she has the top connection with them

493
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: in the house, So it's not like they're going after

494
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: her because she's number one.

495
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, maybe they think she is at this point.

496
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know who they would think would

497
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: be above her.

498
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 4: They just keep saying, like, what is it that he

499
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 4: sees in her? Like blah blah blah.

500
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, there's a select few that are so disrupted

501
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 3: that they cannot go through this experience like they're losing

502
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: their minds. They're losing their minds. And then there's how

503
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: many others left that are very comfortable in this environment

504
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: and seem very unbothered by Maria, And so I don't

505
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 3: know what's happening. I can't even hint at what's happening, don't.

506
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: I don't have any experience with something like this, because

507
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: usually if there is a disruptor in the house, that

508
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: spreads pretty quickly that you can feel it amongst everybody

509
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: very fast. I don't know any example where there's been

510
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 3: a villain or there's been a someone who has just

511
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 3: done it in an isolated experience with just a.

512
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: Few Well, do you think that maybe it's just a

513
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: sensitivity thing and some girls like can handle a personality

514
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: that has a little bit more edginess.

515
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's probably what we got to point to,

516
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: where it's it's a unique personality trait that is very

517
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 3: much bothered by Maria. They feel threatened, they feel hurt,

518
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: they feel disrespected, and as a result, the word yeah,

519
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: and they can't They can't function then because they're being disrespected.

520
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: I do think it's a sensitivity issue. I don't know. Again,

521
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: these are assumptions that we're making, but I think that's

522
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 3: probably the only right now like thing that we have.

523
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: It's the only hint that we have, the only clue

524
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: that we have to what's going on. It's yes, Maria

525
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: is a unique force in the house. She's a big personality.

526
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 4: She has the biggest personality.

527
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 3: And there's a few people house that just don't handle

528
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: it well and they take offense to it. So I'm

529
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: watching this episode, I still think Leah, who takes kind

530
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: of a backseat to the drama here, I think watching

531
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: her conversation with Madina, if that conversation doesn't happen, then

532
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: I think I'm even more confused. But her conversation with

533
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 3: Medina was so kind of mean, really and mean spirited, yeah,

534
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: that I kind of say, Okay, I don't I can't.

535
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 3: I don't think I can trust that opinion.

536
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

537
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: And then we move on to Jess, who's been a

538
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: very fun, bubbly personality through this season, and she's breaking

539
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: and I want to say she's breaking Ashley because of

540
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: what we see most seasons. She's breaking because she's not

541
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 3: good enough time with Joey. She feels like she's falling behind.

542
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: She wants to catch up, she doesn't feel an opportunity

543
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: to catch up. And then Maria steps in and interrupts time,

544
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 3: and I can't have a problem with it.

545
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't have a problem with it.

546
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: I just don't think that I would do it. But again,

547
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. I can't have a problem with it.

548
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: It's the game. You have to play the game. And

549
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like with Jess, you know

550
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: how like I love you know, I'm sure there are

551
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: people out there that understand this. You know, when you're

552
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 2: like crying over something and then like you're crying, then

553
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: just all of a sudden, you start feeling sad about

554
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: all the other things, and like something else crosses your

555
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: mind and you start crying about that.

556
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do.

557
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of what's happening.

558
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it just happens to be pointed at Maria

559
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: because Maria was the She's the culprit to the interruption.

560
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: She got more time, she stole Joey's time, and Jess

561
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: doesn't get any. But again, my question is why isn't

562
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 3: Jess getting any Is it only Maria that took up

563
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: time with Joey? No, there's a lot of other people there.

564
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, but she had the roses.

565
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: But take that out of consideration, because again, do you

566
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: really expect Maria to say, Okay, Joey's five feet away

567
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: from me, and just because I have a rose, I'm

568
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: not going to talk to him the night because I

569
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: want to give everybody else the opportunity to also connect

570
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: with him. That's ridiculous. That's not how this works. That's

571
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: there's one person standing at the end of this, and

572
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: so I can't see a problem with it. I don't

573
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: think it was disrespectful. I even feel like the way

574
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: Maria and I know I'm almost like an apologist for

575
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: her right now, but I can't. I don't have anything

576
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: negative right now to point to because even how she

577
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: interrupted was very kind.

578
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: I know she was, and Caitlin admitted that she was.

579
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: So.

580
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: Do I. That's why I'm getting confused, because obviously there's

581
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: something happening. Obviously there's words being said, there's things being

582
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: done that these women are so hurt by, but yet

583
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: we're seeing none of it, and so it makes and

584
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if the show wanted this, but it makes

585
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: some of the women look crazy, and I don't think

586
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: that's fair to them. I don't think that's fair because

587
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: we're not seeing everything.

588
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 4: I know, and I still stand by this.

589
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: The thing that the fact that I think that we're

590
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: not seeing things for Maria, even though I can use

591
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: the alternate excuse of these girls are just a little

592
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: bit more sensitive than the others trying to see it

593
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 2: from both sides. And again, I have nothing wrong with them.

594
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: I personally, as a viewer watching just face value of

595
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: what we're seeing, don't have any problem with Maria. She.

596
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: I think that they want her to be the bachelorette

597
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: because she has the personality of someone that they enjoy

598
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: being the bachelorette, somebody who spunk, ear and strong and

599
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: la la lah. And I feel like they just are

600
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: like this, this was our pick than like the moment

601
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: we met her, So it's more important for us to

602
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: make her look good than some of these girls that'll

603
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: get eliminited early and make them look good.

604
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: So interesting, I don't know, I right now, I'm sitting

605
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: here confused. There is a lack of explanation for Jess

606
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: to freak out and say the things she said. There

607
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: had to be a lot building up because I just

608
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: don't think I haven't seen that from her yet. But

609
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: I will say this my prediction is this is the

610
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: spiral in the downfall of Jess. I think, oh yeah,

611
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: I don't think it gets any better.

612
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: We see nothing about Maria or any tension around her

613
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: in the scenes in the next episode. So I'm thinking

614
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: Jess is going to get eliminated and then all and

615
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: I think Lee will get eliminated, and I think, then

616
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: it's done.

617
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then and then maybe we do find out

618
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: because if there's somebody else that pops up out of

619
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: this whole thing and is like, you know, I have

620
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: a problem too, Okay, then we have.

621
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: Got to just understand that there's something.

622
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild, Ashley, it's wild. Well, it has been

623
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: a great season so far. It's two episodes this week.

624
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: We believe there's an episode next week. I would like

625
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: to think there's an episode next week.

626
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: Me too.

627
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: Also, if you haven't listened yet, please go back and

628
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: listen to Almost Good Advice. This is a segment that

629
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: we've been doing now for a couple of weeks. It's

630
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: been really fun. Right in your questions, write in any

631
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: curiosities that you have about life, afe in general, relationships, work, friendships,

632
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: family is.

633
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: So good at it, and then I'll give you like

634
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: pretty advice.

635
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: That's not true. I think together together, we're helpful.

636
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: Together, we're good, we give it.

637
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: Yes, together, we're isolated, we're just talking heads. But uh,

638
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: please go back and listen to that again. Two episodes

639
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: this week, so we do have an episode that we

640
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: came out with yesterday, breaking down episode four. This has

641
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: been episode five. So until next week. I've been Ben,

642
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: I've been Ashley.

643
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Speaker 4: See you guys. Thank you.

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