1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Oh my goodness, Ashley, I con Eddie. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: This is a huge day for us. We have the 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: Bachelorette on the podcast. Yes, we love kicking off the 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: season with that. Yes, it's such a big deal for 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: us and for everybody out there listening. So Michelle Young 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: will be coming on in just a second after her 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: first episode as the Bachelor. You know, from watching UM 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: like Instagram, it feels like the Bachelor UM team is 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: really pushing you know, social media and these events and 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: getting you know, the name out there and and kind 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: of treating more than ever these bachelorette and bachelor's as 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: a star. And it feels like Michelle's like kind of 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: just walked into it and done it well so far, 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: at least from what I see. Yeah, I feel like 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: she just has this natural instinct to be so good 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: with media. She's just naturally a very like a little girl. 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: And like, how great did she look? She's so pretty? 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: She was like my eye candy last night watching the episode. 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: She's beautiful, she is, and uh, and I think these 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: guys are going to be just really struck by Michelle. 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: The whole time. But yeah, it's uh, it's it's just 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: interesting because she I mean, even her preview ash like 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: when she's walking through like I don't you know that, 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: like the woods and the dress, like it's just like 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: this is I mean, it's kind of funny. I remember 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: Katie Thurston making a joke about it, like Katie had 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: like a rubber skirt on and kind of just like 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: sat in the studio and then Michelle's out there walking 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: through her first force. It's beautiful. It reminds me a 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: lot of the Hannah Brown promos back in the day. 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: I totally agree. Yes, it's very whimsical, fairy tale like, 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: and she does just carry herself with a lot of 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: grace and confidence. I'm we're excited that we're gonna dig 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: into the episode with her. We're going to talk to 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: her about like you know, the normal bachelor at life, 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: and then we're going to go into recapping the episode 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: with her. So but before we get on the phone 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: with her, we have a new bachelor bracket rule because 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: we're continuing with the bachelorette bachelorte bracket this season. It's 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: a big deal. Obviously, we just had Alexis the winner 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: of Paradise on the podcast Congratulations once again into Alexis Um. 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: But we are also now promoting this new season of 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. It's the Bachelor. Brackett is back play along 45 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: with us the Almost Famous team. The rule of the 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: week for week two is you get ten more points 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: every time a contestant is seen hugging Michelle on a 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: group date. You can visit Bachelorette dot batch bracket dot com. Again, 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: that's Bachelorette dot batch Bracket dot com to set up 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: an account, pick your favorites. Alright, Ash, it's time, let's 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: bring Michelle on and break down the episode. All right, 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: as promised, everybody, we have just the absolute star of 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: this season, Michelle Young on the Almost Famous podcast to 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: talk Everything Bachelorette. She's super busy right now. We just 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: saw her in interviews this morning. She's talking all the time. 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying it, Michelle, welcome to Almost Famous. 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Talking all the time a lot? Yes, thank you for 58 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: having me. Are you not talking all the times? Do 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: you not feel like right now like some people are 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: asking you questions. I do enjoy my piece and quiet, 61 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: but no, I definitely it's been a lot. It's been crazy, 62 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: it's been busy, but I'm enjoying it for sure. Michelle, 63 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: as a fifth grade teacher, was there any comparisons or 64 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: like anything you took from that life to handle thirty men? Oh? Yes, 65 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: I knew that I would, like you, I was there 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: was honestly well one being a first or being a 67 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: fifth grade teacher. Remembering names, it is something that helped 68 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: me out big time. And like being able to keep 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: different situations separate but then remember details about them, because 70 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: when you're dating thirty guys, I mean it's really really 71 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: hard to remember all those stories sometimes, but also picking 72 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: out the bs, you know when somebody's lying for sure, 73 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: the I imagine, I mean for many reasons, Like you know, 74 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: we we both think that you're going to thrive in 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: this role, and we've we've heard from Caitlin and Tatia 76 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: that you just do a tremendous job through the whole season. 77 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: But I I'm wondering for you, what's it like at 78 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: your school because teachers typically are pretty big fans of 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: the Bachelor and Bachelor. When they find out you're going 80 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: to be the Bachelor. At what happened, I am very 81 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: lucky to have this school environment where I'm incredibly supported. 82 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: It's overwhelming support. But also what's so nice is that 83 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: my teachers, my coworkers they know, and my students to 84 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: know that when I step through those doors, I miss 85 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: young and I'm able to focus on my job. I'm 86 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: able to kind of take time away from being in 87 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: that bachelor role model, which is it's sometimes overwhelming being 88 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: in this world where you're always in the spotlight and 89 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: you're always talking about bachelor, bachelorette, and it's it is, 90 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: it's this amazing thing. It's this amazing experience. But it's 91 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: nice to have that balance. And so when I'm working, 92 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: when I'm at my school and in my classroom, my 93 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: focus truly is on my students. And it's really been 94 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: nice that my coworkers, my administrators, everybody's really respected that. 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: On Matt season, we loved seeing your family. Your family 96 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: like just radiates this warmth, and I loved seeing that 97 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: again in this first episode, and how your parents are 98 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: such relationship role models for you. How difficult was it 99 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: to like go through this process without getting their feedback 100 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: on the guys until I'm assuming the very last minute. Yeah, 101 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: I talked to my mom every day we could normally do, 102 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: but you weren't able to this time. Yes, no, not 103 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: in this situation, but I normally do. I mean after work, 104 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: like she's my phone call, She's the person that I 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: talked to when we talk about our days, and we 106 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: just were so so close. And so my parents have 107 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: been there for everything. They've helped me through some really 108 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: difficult times and navigate certain situations. And so to be 109 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: through going through this incredibly important process where you are 110 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: selecting or trying to select somebody to spend the rest 111 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: of your life with, to not have their input was 112 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: incredibly hard. But I was very grateful that I had 113 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: Catlantation there who would also you know, there's an advantage 114 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: advantage as well because they've been through before. That first scene, um, well, 115 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: one of the first scenes with you and your family, 116 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: uh is always one of my favorites because I remember, 117 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, my parents so excited for me but had 118 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: no clue how to help me. UM, so nervous, so emotional, 119 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: knowing I'm gonna leave and possibly come back with somebody, 120 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: and if not, at least I would have a huge 121 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: life experience. Um what was it like for you sitting 122 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: down with him with the cameras around, uh and having 123 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: that kind of be your first moment as you know, 124 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: did it hit you in that moment that this your 125 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: life is going to be changing, hopefully for the better. 126 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: That was definitely emotional because before that, they've been with 127 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: me through the heart right through when relationships didn't work, 128 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: and they kind of saw all that behind the scenes 129 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: aim that you know, not everybody sees, and so to 130 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: sit down with them and just be vulnerable, be open 131 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: and talk to them about it. We all definitely have 132 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: a moment where we get emotional together because you know, 133 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: my mom and dad are still so madly of love 134 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: and I think the world has seen that. They're gonna 135 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: still continue to see that. And that's definitely kind of 136 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: my driving force behind what I'm looking for is somebody 137 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: who is going to stick in it with me for that. 138 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: And my brother has found that in his relationship with 139 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: his wife. My sister has found that and her relationship 140 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: with her husband, and now it's like it's my turn. 141 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: So my family has just been incredibly supportive and we 142 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: definitely were emotional. You know, I was just thinking this, 143 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: you are one of the very few bachelorettes. I think 144 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: Claire was the only other one who got announced as 145 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: the bachelorette and then had months to kind of not 146 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: mull it over, but to prepare, you know, because you 147 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: were announced in March and then you didn't start filming 148 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: until I feel like July. So do you feel like 149 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: you at all? Over thoughts? Um, did you ever get 150 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: cold feet? Oh? Gosh, that downtime was the best thing 151 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: that could have happened, because coming off of Matt season, 152 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: as you know, like that was a very heavy season 153 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: with all of the racial controversies, conversations, everything that was 154 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of just unfolding and taking place. And on top 155 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: of that, I was dealing with heartbreak. And so by 156 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: the time everything kind of came to a head and 157 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: I was announced, I was so happy that I was 158 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: going to get this period of time where I could 159 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: just recharge and I was back in the classroom, I 160 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: could hit that restep button, and I spent time with friends, family. 161 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Um got a little taste of that Minnesota summer before 162 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: I took off for filming. But it was just it 163 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: was so nice that I could get my head and 164 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: my heart in the right spot to make sure that 165 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: I was putting my best foot forward and that I was, 166 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, ready the phone off the We're gonna talk 167 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: about through this first episode with you. Uh here in 168 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: just a second, Um and Michelle, we actually uh have 169 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: prerecorded a little segment with Becca koufren Um who we discussed, uh, 170 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: one of your contestants, Ryan, So uh let's take a 171 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: break here. Uh, We're gonna air this segment and then 172 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: uh you all of us are going to chat about 173 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: it with you, Okay, Becka Kouffer And we know Ryan, 174 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: don't we We do. Indeed, I would hate to say 175 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: unfortunately no, Ryan, but we do. We. Uh. We hosted 176 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: Bachelorlive on stage and I thought I was getting this right, 177 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: Beck It was San Jose. He was our Bachelor, right yeah, 178 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: right before COVID hit, Right before COVID hit. So when 179 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: we were hosting the tour, Ryan was our Bachelor in 180 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: San Jose. Uh, And I remember we walked off that 181 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: and we said, I remember you, and I'm specifically remember 182 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: us getting on the tour of us and having a 183 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: conversation about, hey, there's people coming on Bachelor on stage, 184 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: which is a fun experience. You know, it's pretty lighthearted, 185 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: it's it was you know, it's it's a great thing 186 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: to watch and enjoy, but we're like, there's definitely people 187 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: here just want to go on the show. Now, we 188 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with it, but it's just like, 189 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: you can definitely see that the Ryan's of the world 190 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: really just want to go on the Bachelorette or Bachelor 191 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: at this point, do you remember that? Yes, Oh, yes, vividly, 192 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: especially after that one and and so we get to 193 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: watch him. What was your thoughts after watching the episode 194 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: and seeing how Ryan's very quick time on The Bachelor 195 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: it turned out? Oh, I thought it was such a 196 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: little b s r mm hmm, he said on his 197 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: short lived time on Michelle season contradicted, I mean really 198 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: everything else. Um, I think he said he had only 199 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: he only had watched the show for two hours in total, 200 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: but I'm true, it's not true. And when when we 201 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: met him, because we obviously spend time and get to 202 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: meet and chat with the leads that were on Bachelor 203 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: live on stage and the contestants, I mean, he knew 204 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: a lot more than he was letting out on Michelle's season, 205 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: for sure, and he also was very most people I 206 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: would say that we're on the stage with us, We're 207 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: very go with the flow. You know, they just everyone 208 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: kind of wings that you don't exactly know what is 209 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: going to happen because every name is vastly different. And 210 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: he was very calculated and wanted to know everything too, 211 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: but we'll just go with the flow. You're getting to 212 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: know these girls, You're gonning to do it all in 213 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: real time with them. Um, So to see the calculation, 214 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, in those documents, I wasn't surprised, but also 215 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: like I'm thinking, dude, you're lying to this girl right 216 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: now in national television that millions of people are not 217 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: going to see. But like, if we google your name, 218 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: you're already affiliated with the franchise in some way, shape 219 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: or form from a year and a half two years ago. 220 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: The the crazy one to me was when he's sitting 221 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: down with Michelle and he's like, yeah, my friend wrote this, 222 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: did all the study, and then you know she was 223 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: brilliant and like, I, this is a skill set I 224 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: did not have when I was a bachelor, but like 225 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: she read right through it and was like, wait did 226 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: you Because then he goes on to say, like when 227 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: I wrote this down and she goes, well, noh, did 228 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: you write this or did your friends write this? And 229 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: then you know he does the whole like deep breath, like, 230 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: oh crap, I'm caught. This is over and uh. And 231 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: I would just say, like, kudos to her for saying 232 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work any longer, because she was kind 233 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: of into him, I think for a bit. Yeah, do 234 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: we all notice that he'spelled bachelor incorrectly? No? Is that true? 235 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: I go, I gotta watch it. I'm like, if you 236 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: were this calculated, at least the show you're going on, right, Yeah, 237 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: that would be especially if they're gonna if they're gonna 238 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: do a nice close up h D version of your 239 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: notes on national television. That's that's I mean, Hey, I 240 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what to call his playbook, 241 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if there's like a word that 242 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: I want to associate to it, because it's either like 243 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: very strategic, um very calculated. It's either really well intentioned, 244 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: like I don't know what his intentions were behind it, 245 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: But can we just say how detailed and like how 246 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: much time that playbook kind of take? I mean there 247 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: was twenty pages of like graphs and quote and then 248 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: my name got mentioned. You want to You want to 249 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: think it's weird. I haven't been on the show in 250 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: five years. You want to watch a Bachelor episode and 251 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here beIN Higgins mentioned it gets weird. 252 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: And I talked to Titia about it, and I think 253 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: she said this unhappy hour. She said it wasn't just front, 254 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: it was front and back notes for page after page 255 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: after page. You were mentioned, Ben Syntarctic was mentioned, zactatious 256 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: fiance was mentioned. There were a lot like. The part 257 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: that got me though, was what it wasn't even about 258 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: other people. It was like what was written about him 259 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: that Michelle right out loud, where he's like, you are arrogant, 260 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: you are this, You're that, like leave that out of 261 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: their buddy, Like it's just probably the wrong I got. 262 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: I got weird serial killer vibes with that one. So Michelle, 263 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: as you just heard, uh from our interview with Beckay 264 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: koferin we actually knew Ryan. I know Ryan and Becca 265 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: knows Ryan. Do you know how we know Ryan before 266 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: that aired? I know Enlightening Please so Ryan, Uh, you're 267 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: your fabulous producer. He was beautiful and stunning and just 268 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: controls the world. Lady Kay who was with you right now, 269 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: And I know she's definitely smiling because she just loves 270 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: the comments. Um. She uh is from a very similar 271 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: area as Ryan and Uh. When we were in San Jose, California, 272 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: Ryan was a Bachelor while Becca Koufern and I hosted 273 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: Bachelor Live on stage. Wow, okay, okay, and you didn't 274 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: feel it's with me before my first night? Should I 275 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: feel you should feel offended a little bit? But I'm 276 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: a little offended too because I didn't recognize him until 277 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: you guys had your moment in the hotel room when 278 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: you're going through the papers. I go, oh, my gosh, 279 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: and I texted Becky, I said, is this who I 280 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: think it is? Is this the guy from San Jose? 281 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: And so I had to confirm it with her, but 282 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: it was, um, Michelle right away. And so you know, 283 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: we could dig into Ryan and all those crazy decisions, 284 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: and we might in a second, but right away you 285 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: were dealt with something unseen before in the bachelor world. 286 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: I wonder for you in that moment, you handled it 287 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: so well. Uh you called him out on his BS. 288 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's something I was impressed by, 289 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: because that first night I was so nervous and I 290 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking clearly, but you recognized his small little eyes, 291 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: you called him out on a small little lies and 292 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: then you confront a situation and you send a guy 293 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: home before even makes the group picture, which is just 294 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: absolutely so sad, Like what was going through your head, 295 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: not only in the moment, but also knowing like, hey, 296 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: for the next you know, three months of your life, 297 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: these are the kind of things that you're gonna have 298 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: to navigate through. Yeah, I think in that situation it 299 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: was definitely I was caught off guard for sure, and 300 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: what I got out of that situation and how I 301 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: felt those documents being presented, and you know that feeling 302 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: if you ever just a relationship where someone goes through 303 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: someone else's phone and it's just like, look like that 304 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: not good feeling, right, Like I don't ever want to 305 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: feel that. I don't want to feel the need to 306 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: do this. I don't want to feel the need. If 307 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I feel the need, then that's that's a red flight 308 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: for me personally. And so I think that's where I 309 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: went off of that of that gut into the feeling, 310 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: and it was also setting the tone because coming into it, 311 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: it's like I'm actually looking for my person, and I 312 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: need my person to be authentic. And you know, I'm 313 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily here to measure and grade everybody on their authenticity, 314 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: but I'm here to find my person, and and I 315 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: have to go with what I think and is invest 316 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: in the situation. And you know, if that's kind of 317 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: where I was coming from. Not normally we would go 318 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: in chronological order with how the episode goes, but I think, like, 319 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: let's do it a little bit differently because we have 320 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: Michelle here and she's on a timeframe. Um, let's talk 321 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: about like the biggest drama is the biggest standout moments 322 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: of the night. Now, I think Ryan probably was that. 323 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: What else was in that pack of documents that was 324 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: on the level of incriminating as say, how to get 325 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: the most TV time? Was there anything else that wasn't 326 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: aired that was super red flag? I think what was 327 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: shown is just truly what made me the most uncomfortable 328 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: is you know, I I myself have journaled before and 329 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: have set goals about, you know, what I want to 330 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: do and what I want to achieve, But when it 331 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: comes down to it, I'm never writing notes on how 332 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: to act and how to pre itself and how to 333 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: come off as something that I feel I'm not. And 334 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: so that's kind of where I was juggling that, and 335 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of where my my decisions were coming from. 336 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: I get that Jared is like loves to play Devil's advocate, 337 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: and he had so much to say about this scene 338 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: yesterday when we were watching. He's like, my friend Crystal, 339 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: the one who signed him up for the show, would 340 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: totally have typed up pages for me and put it 341 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: in my suitcase and I would have gotten caught. We're 342 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: all terrified of becoming the villain and this guy was 343 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: just trying not to be the villain. And I could 344 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: kind of see both sides of the situation. I thought 345 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: there was like maybe something I feel like there was 346 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: like something about his personality, and then when you when 347 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: you combine it with the papers that made me feel 348 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: a little bit untrusted, untrustworthy. It was yes, like that 349 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: what was in I mean, what Tasia Caitlin had brought 350 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: to me was what you know, triggered that whole scenario. 351 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: And then looking through and feeling that in my intuition 352 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: was another thing. But I'm a big having a conversation 353 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: and I wanted him to speak as peace. But in conversations, 354 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: if in conversations they start to go back on what 355 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: they said in that same conversation, then I'm like, Okay, 356 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: now what are we doing? So I totally understand playing 357 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, and I definitely do that in situations as well. 358 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: It was more the conversation was help incriminating in that 359 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: own conversation as a whole. Take documents, take what people 360 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: said outside of it that maybe uncomfortable, and yeah, that's 'restling. 361 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I have a couple of feelings. 362 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: One is gonna be this is gonna be such a 363 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: small storyline in like four weeks, like you, Like, I 364 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: bet in three years, Michelle, you'll even forget that this happened. 365 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: Like there's gonna be so much that you forget. You'll remember, 366 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: like the really meaningful parts. And and my honest opinion 367 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: is you did a huge favor because can you imagine, 368 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: I mean, this show does a few things to you, 369 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: as we all know here, and it always brings out 370 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: your true character. At some point, you might be able 371 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: to hold onto it, you might be able to fake it, 372 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: you might be able to act for weeks, but at 373 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: some point you break, and it is guaranteed that you 374 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: will break. And can you imagine how exhausting it would 375 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: have been to have a pamphlet of how to act 376 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: and behave and what to say and what not to 377 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: say and then like do that for a couple of 378 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: weeks and I say, he's around, like that would be 379 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: so tiring for him. So you did him a favor. 380 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: You're very kind in that moment, Michelle, nice job. Yeah, 381 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: it's just more. I mean, I don't think any of 382 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: the people who came out my season are bad people. 383 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just trying to find my person. Is 384 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: that good for you? Good for you? Well? Okay, what 385 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: other big moments stood out? Uh during this episode? I mean, 386 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: I would really like to know, Michelle, if we can 387 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of backtrack to the very beginning of it. You 388 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: are the bachelor ate. Now you pull up to uh 389 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: this resort um. This is a big deal for you. 390 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: And now the guys saw getting out of the car 391 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: um were you after their entrances? Did you feel more 392 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: at peace, more excited, more comfortable with the situation, or 393 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: were you of us still walking into the house, I 394 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: was nervous to give, like you know, walking in that 395 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: initial toast, but I was excited, nervous, and I think 396 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: once like the first few guys got out of the limo, 397 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: I was definitely nervous, but I started to calm down 398 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: more because I'm like, okay, like I'm just gonna be myself. 399 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: That's what I know how to do. I don't know 400 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: how to be somebody else, don't know how to act 401 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: a certain way. I know how to be myself. That's 402 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: what I'm the best at, and that's what I'm gonna do. 403 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: And if that's what I want them to see, like 404 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: if you fall in love with me, I want your 405 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: fall in love with me. And so that was kind 406 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: of my what centered me through through that whole first night. 407 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: I gotta know about the guy who you are d 408 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: m ng with? Was his name Joe? Joe? I go 409 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: by just descriptions on night one? Okay, so you okay, 410 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: how did you go, how did you meet with? How 411 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: you slid in to Joe's d M when we need 412 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: a time frame on this, and how you came across 413 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: him on Instagram? Oh my goodness. Minnesota's a small community, 414 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: you know, especially athletics a small community and pre everything 415 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, I had. We chatted back and forth and 416 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: you will see how the rest of that story unfolds. 417 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: It's quite a story. And I did call myself out 418 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: with sliding into somebody's DMS. I mean, I told you 419 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna, genuinely told you guys, gonna be authentic. 420 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: Whether that's throwing myself under the bus by admitting that 421 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: on national television, Hey, but I loved it. At least 422 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: you know you're getting an honest person, you know, Yes, 423 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: I love so You're good from no shame in that 424 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: game at all, and not necessarily. I don't know about 425 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: him though, I I don't know. I don't trust him. 426 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: She she shrugs. Guys, she shrugs. Ashley, we've made this 427 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: mistake before. We've said things like that and then they 428 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: end up with the person, and we got to did 429 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: I do that too? I was so embarrassed. I was afraid. 430 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: I was afraid that somebody was going to pick and 431 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: they ended up being like their runner up. Yeah, okay, 432 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: all right, night one. He made me go, hmm, that's 433 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: all I'll say. That's what that's what we'll say. That's 434 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: what we'll say here. It's great, Um, Michelle, talk us through. 435 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: Uh some of these entrances because they were pretty elaborate 436 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: this season. Uh, including uh the poor guy who had 437 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: his head stuck in a plate. Um. We talked to 438 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: the box man, what's his name? Rick? Rick? He? Uh, 439 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: how so, all right now, I'm just recovering from knee 440 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: surgery from playing basketball. How in the world did that 441 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: poor man's knees hold up inside of that inside of 442 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: that table? Hi asked him the same question. That's why 443 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: I said, you're gonna need a chiropractor at the moment 444 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: he got out of that table, knowing how long he 445 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: had been in there, I mean that was well into 446 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: the night. It's not like I spoke to Trick right away, 447 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: like he was in there for a minute. He was 448 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: in there during my toast and um. But that also 449 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: shows commitment. I mean he was dead to make an impression. 450 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: He showed me his goofy side. He made me laugh. 451 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean he really kind of wont if you think 452 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: about it, Yeah, I mean he stood out. I will 453 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: say that it was memorable. It was I like the 454 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: fact that he liked played on food. I would have 455 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: been eating everything off of his his plate there and 456 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: just for fun. Okay, Well, we only have like a 457 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: minute left with you. I do want to bring up 458 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: Nate though, since he got your first impression Rows and 459 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: he also got my first impression Rose. As a viewer, 460 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure you were like ready to be giving 461 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: out the first impression Wars. I felt like we had 462 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: like another few like one on one time, and all 463 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I was seeing I see Nate and 464 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's the best conversation so far. 465 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: And then you go and grab the rose and I 466 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: was like, oh, wow, plays she feels the same. Yeah, 467 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: we're all on the same thing. Really like him. Yeah, 468 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: it was just it was a good conversation. And we 469 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: talked a lot about vulnerability, and I asked for vulnerability. 470 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: And in that first conversation, you do you see him 471 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: talk about how he doesn't want to talk about, you know, 472 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: some of the more things that are close to his heart. 473 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: And then right after that he pulls down his walls 474 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: and he does just that, and so that's what I 475 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: really connected with and yeah, that's that's that's why the 476 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: rose was given out. Alright, Michelle, last question for you, Um, 477 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: you have a lot I mean you, I mean this, 478 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: we wish you the best here and we've heard great 479 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: things about you. We haven't got to meet in person. 480 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: I hope to be able to do that one day. UM, 481 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: best of luck through this whole experience. It's a wild ride, 482 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: but it's awesome and I can do it. You can 483 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: do it. If actually can do it, you can do it. Um. 484 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: But you have a lot of really good looking dudes. Uh, 485 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: they're really good talkers. You're obviously very strong. You could 486 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: read through that. We've seen it. What do viewers have 487 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: to look forward to, um, through the rest of the 488 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: season if you give them a little shout out before 489 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: we say goodbye. Just we had some tough conversations. We 490 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: had conversations about race, we had conversations about culture. We 491 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: had so many different, just in depth, solid conversations that 492 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: I don't think are normally had on this And those 493 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: conversations are important to me, and they're also important to 494 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: the men who were on my season. And so to 495 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: be able to just happen to that little a little 496 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: bit and how the world see that is something that 497 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really special. Thanks Michelle, Hey, 498 00:27:47,840 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: we wish you the best much again. Bye. Well, it's 499 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: always good having to lead on the podcast as the 500 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: season starts. We'll get it back on later on, obviously 501 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: hopefully to celebrate a love story, but if not, then 502 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: we'll still want to break down everything with her at 503 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: some point. Um, but Michelle Young is off and running 504 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: with her season of The Bachelorette, so Ashley, it bigs 505 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: us the question. Um, Episode one was fine in my opinion, Uh, 506 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: nothing against Michelle, just Ryan took up most of the 507 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: episode and it felt like, um that dragged out. It 508 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: probably should have because it was such a kind of 509 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: like important night one storyline, but like, not a lot happened. 510 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: Um that like to grab onto uh from episode one? 511 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: Do you agree? Yeah? Totally? I mean, but then again, 512 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: we say it every year. We don't always love episode one. 513 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: Episode one's eart least favorite. Yeah, it's at least favorite. 514 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: It just gets us started. Um, the preview happened. We're 515 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: excited to see what happens throughout the season. Is as 516 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: Michelle said, you know, some of these conversations that she's 517 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: gonna lead throughout the season are important for all of 518 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: us to hear, um, but also really hopefully important for 519 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: the relationships that she's building on the show. And so 520 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna be something that that we watch and and 521 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: kind of get into and see just how these men respond. 522 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: I have a feeling, Ashley, that Michelle is very comfortable, 523 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: um asking the tough questions, like she won't stand back 524 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: from that. You know, we've seen it in past leads 525 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: when they aren't good at asking questions and they're not 526 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: good at digging deep, and they're not good at follow up, 527 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: and they're not good at pushing. How just hard it 528 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: gets to watch. No offense to the men, but it's 529 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: usually bachelors. We'll say it. It's it's most of the 530 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: like I can I'm not gonna name him right now, 531 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: but like it comes to mind, like three of these 532 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: guys who was like these seasons fell way short because 533 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: you just sucked at dating, Like you were terrible at 534 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: this thing. Um. But Michelle, I believe, is going to 535 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: be really good at it, and I believe it's going 536 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: to really progress some relationships forward and and we're gonna 537 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: hopefully be able to get into it because they're gonna 538 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: get deep and um well anyways, uh, hey, listeners, I 539 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: encourage you to do this along with us. But as always, 540 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: we're going to start episode one with this question for 541 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: for a resident expert, actually Liken, Eddie Ashley, who we're 542 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: top three men that stood out to you? You don't 543 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 1: have to give him an order yet, but who what 544 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: three men stood out to you from episode one? Well, 545 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: like I just said with Michelle, definitely Nate, this is 546 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: good vibe about him. Liked how like he was uncomfortable 547 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: but then just went in and leaned into the uncomfortable 548 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: and then I and I feel like they're they have 549 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: visual chemistry and all that too. I liked Clayton, you know, 550 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: like as I think we're all supposed to like Clayton. 551 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: He's of course the new Bachelor, and I did get 552 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: warm vibes from him. Uh. Likes the family dynamic there, 553 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: like the way he carried himself, seems confident but not cocky. 554 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: And then I liked Jamie. Jamie just seemed to be 555 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: that guy that's really easy to talk to UM and 556 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: he was very attentive to her. So those are my three? 557 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: What about you? Yeah, I was gonna say, I was 558 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: gonna say Jamie, Nate, and Brandon. Um. Actually the only 559 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: thing about Brandon, yeah, Brandon, Uh, they have the name 560 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: on here, Liz listen we'll get better at names as 561 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: we go. But it was listened as Brandon J. I 562 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: don't know if there's a second Brandon, UM, but I 563 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: like Brandon. I thought he was um, just kind and 564 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: and and sat down and he just gave good vibes. However, 565 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: and maybe it's a look. And I need you to 566 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: tell me this, our listeners. You need to tell me 567 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: this because I have to put a tie on fairly 568 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 1: soon in my life. His tie was so long, like 569 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: his tie was, it was outrageously long. It stood out 570 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: to me. But I liked him. So Jamie, Nate, and 571 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: Brandon are my top three after episode one. And what 572 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: was like the standout moment for Brandon, Like what would 573 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: I know him by? I mean mostly their time on 574 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: the couch and so didn't get a lot of one 575 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: on one conversations with Michelle in episode one because you know, 576 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Ryan took up a lot of the night. UM, there's 577 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that go through UM. But really 578 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: they were sitting just on a couch together having a 579 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: conversation and it felt like, um, you know when you 580 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: just initially when a guy makes eye contact or when 581 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: somebody makes eye contact with you and they feel like 582 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 1: they're in the moment, like they're where their feet are. 583 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: It felt like Brandon was where his feet were. To me, 584 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: it felt like he was very much invested in this 585 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: moment and U And I'm excited to see where this 586 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: goes because episode one he definitely made an impression on 587 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: me and I was like, Hey, this guy, this guy 588 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: seems like a good dude. Nice all right, Yeah there, 589 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, I don't know if it's Brandon 590 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: j or Brandon Kay. People will know, I'm time he 591 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: were like a silver tie, um black suit, you know, 592 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: one of those dudes you'll know. Well, we'll know, give 593 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: give us two weeks. I feel like this first episode 594 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: more than recent first episodes. I didn't connect with a 595 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: lot and I'm not remembering as many names, So I 596 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: hope that changes. I'm sure will. Obviously Clayton stands out 597 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: and we connect with his name, but it's because of 598 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 1: the anticipation comes from him or what we what we assume, uh, 599 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's not been official yet, but we assume 600 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: he is an ex bachelor based on Jesse Palmer's you 601 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: know picture being posted with him, but um, he is. 602 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: He did stand out to me, but I was very 603 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: focused on him the whole time. And yeah, he was great. 604 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean he was nice, he was kind, he was 605 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, a great moment with his with his mom, 606 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: and um, he was kind of Michelle. I mean, yeah, 607 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: he seems awesome. But but I think that was just 608 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: a given to me, Like, oh, of course Clayon's gonna 609 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: stand and he's gonna stand out the whole season. He's 610 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna be like star number two on this show because 611 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: he's got a big future in front of him. Yeah, 612 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: first time this has happened in a long time or 613 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: ever that we get to literally just a no based 614 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: on episode one who the bachelor is and follow him 615 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: along with that mind. Yeah. Yeah, And I don't know 616 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: if I like it. I wish I think it's gonna well, 617 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: and I think it is gonna keep me from investing 618 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: too deeply into his story with Michelle, like if he 619 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: does get his heartbroken or if there is a relationship there. 620 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: I think in the back of my mind, I'm like, dude, 621 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: you we all know you're fine, Like we all know 622 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: you're good, And I don't like that, Like I want 623 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: to feel things with each person. I want to feel 624 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: things in each relationship and I I do think, say 625 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: for the viewer, it's a little sad because like if 626 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: Cleyton does, um, you know, stay on for a while, 627 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: I feel like most people will watch him be like yeah, 628 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: but Cleayton, you're the next batchlor like, come on, can't 629 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: be that upset. Also, that's like when we get down 630 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: to top four, Like, say he's in the top four, 631 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: like I would imagine him to be like we already 632 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: can eliminate him. We're like, okay, well he's gone. So 633 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: it's really between these three guys. Yeah, alright, Yeah, that's 634 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: gonna be weird. I don't know. Anyways, Hey, episode one 635 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: is done. That's big for us. Now we start to 636 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: dig deep team listeners, we start to get involved. Episode 637 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: one is always actually not. I mean it might be 638 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: our slogan for the almost in his podcast, we're never 639 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: fans of Night one. It's always hard. The only thing 640 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: I was a fan of a Night one in recent 641 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 1: memory was the backdrop to Matt James this season, because 642 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: it was so beautiful. I was like, yeah, I'll watched 643 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: this forever. I was thinking about that last night. I 644 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: was like I missed NEC. Yeah, I mean that was 645 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: a cool place all right. Hey. Uh, that's it for 646 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast today. Um. We will be back 647 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: next week breaking down Michelle Young season of The Bachelorette. Um. 648 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: Really exciting time for the Almost Famous podcast because we 649 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: do have the Bachelor Brackett Bachelor at Brackett going on, 650 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: so make sure you go out and fill out your brackets. Uh. 651 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: We will be picking a winner at the end of 652 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: the season. Um. Again. The rule for next week is 653 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: any contestant you get ten more points if they hug 654 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: a Michelle Young on a group date. That's a lot 655 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 1: of points being given out at bet next week. Anyways. Hey, 656 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 1: with with that, I've been Been, I've been Ashley. Bye. Guys. 657 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: Followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 658 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.