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Speaker 1: he Brown could be valuable in fantasy this year is

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Speaker 1: the age old football coaching acumen, the theory of just

426
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Speaker 1: throw to your good players payers. But he would be

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Speaker 1: amongst the best players on the Colts offense right now.

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Speaker 1: I hesitated top three. Who else will we put above him?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Left handed Luck. Um, you know you

430
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: bring up Andrew Luck and you brought up this stat.

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Speaker 1: I think it was last week when Andrew Luck was

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Speaker 1: last healthy, fully healthy, and when he had that monster

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Speaker 1: season back in when he threw to Kobe Fleaner and

434
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen. That's exactly right. Kobe Flinner had eight touchdowns,

435
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen had eight touchdowns. One of my all time

436
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Speaker 1: favorite vines r I P Vine, r I P Vine.

437
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: But it it reminds me that if Andrew Luck is

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Speaker 1: going to be the guy. UH and coming from the

439
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: system that it came from in Stanford as well, where

440
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Speaker 1: he utilized a lot of tight ends, throwing to the

441
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: tight end quite a bit as well, and we've seen

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Speaker 1: that throughout his young career. UH thus far in the

443
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Speaker 1: NFL is the fact that Andrew Luck likes to rely

444
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Speaker 1: on his tight ends. I will say this to UH.

445
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: Last year in Philadelphia, UM, the twelve personnel, one running back,

446
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: two tight ends to wide receivers was the second most

447
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: run personnel by the Eagles two twenty nine plays. However,

448
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: they ran eleven personnel in almost seven plays, So big

449
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: big gap there. Yeah. I mean the question is, let's

450
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: say they run eleven in Indianapolis. Who's your three wide receivers.

451
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Speaker 1: It's maybe Eric Kebron receiver. That's what I might be

452
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Speaker 1: in the st That's what I'm saying. No, I think

453
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Speaker 1: he might. He might be the flanker. I think it

454
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Speaker 1: might be Ryan Grant in the slot. And then just

455
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna they're gonna show double tight end

456
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Speaker 1: set and then you might see eric Ebron flash. Yet,

457
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: let me real quick go to next time sets and

458
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: look at Eric Keybron's lineup percentages before we change topics.

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're spending a lot of time in eric

460
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Speaker 1: key Brie. But I like it. Why not? I went

461
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Speaker 1: to I went to the Fantasy Lave pod and it

462
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: was almost exclusively Eric. Uh, so we're talking Eric ebron

463
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: Ty Montgomery last year for the for the Lions, he

464
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: lined up out wide on of his snaps sixty five

465
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Speaker 1: times in the slot actually was the most where he

466
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: lined up snapt in tight. So he's he's versatile. They

467
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: could move them around a lot. Care we go shooting up.

468
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, hey, we'll stay with the cults. This

469
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Speaker 1: from Zach Kieffer, also from The Indie Star regarding rookie

470
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Speaker 1: running back and I gotta get a pronunciation guide on

471
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Speaker 1: this guy. I think heim heines I've been I forget

472
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: easily whatever Haines, the rookie running back from North Carolina State.

473
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: How about that quote? He plays almost position list, this

474
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: five nine pound offensive Swiss army knife, dripping in speed

475
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Speaker 1: and versatility and most of all, we're gonna call him

476
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Speaker 1: position X potential. I love it. Hefty praise certainly for

477
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Speaker 1: the running back out of North Carolina State. I'll ask you, guys,

478
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Speaker 1: this is he more are of a gadget weapon or

479
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Speaker 1: is he worth a flyer in fantasy? Marlon Mack the

480
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: presumed starter. Maybe possibly, We're not exactly sure, but we

481
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: think he might be. Mac has an ADP in the

482
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Speaker 1: eighties in most leagues nahem heinz. I think it is nahem.

483
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Speaker 1: I think you're right, Naheim heines right, an ADP undrafted

484
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: nahim nahem. The pronunciation we have in his draft player

485
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Speaker 1: bio is an I E dash h e n. So

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Speaker 1: we know the hem, we know the heat. I think

487
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Speaker 1: it's that would make the most sense. Achieved, consensus, well done, everybody,

488
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: lots of talk and we deduced how to pronounced nahem heines.

489
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Speaker 1: It would be tough for me to to say them

490
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Speaker 1: or niheim Over Marlon Mack. If they can't even give

491
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Speaker 1: him a position, well he's he's position lists and dripping

492
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Speaker 1: with talent. But I do like the talent and speed

493
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: are both liquid that can be dripped. Could it be

494
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: interjected into like Wolverine style? About the Avandrago Rocky montage

495
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: before and there was that liquid that left the syringe

496
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: and we were left to imply that that was a

497
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: p D maybe um maybe or maybe he's just rehydrating.

498
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: Could have been liquid potential in speed. I see it now,

499
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: I see it now. Maybe that's exactly what it is.

500
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: But again, is this guy more of a gadget player

501
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: not worth fans? I mean, maybe he has more real

502
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: life value than fantasy value. He's going undrafted in most

503
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: in most drafts. I mean, I think he just got

504
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: picked up at Marcus Grant Army. Yeah he did. I've

505
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: seen him. I've seen him go a lot in the

506
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: later double digit rounds. I certainly think there's there's value

507
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: to picking up a back like Hinds, but also because,

508
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: much like the Packers, this backfield is unsettled. But if

509
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Speaker 1: a healthy Luck comes back, there are going to be

510
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: fantasy points to be had in this backfield. And when

511
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Speaker 1: we mentioned that magical season with Luck, I think he

512
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: threw six touchdowns to a moder Bradshaw, and if they

513
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Speaker 1: were going to target it back, it might be Hindes,

514
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: who's a who's a very good receiver, six touchdowns receiving

515
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: six receiving touchdowns for him. I mean between the tight

516
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: ends and running backs, I mean, good Lord, t Y

517
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Hilton had seven and and that was I mean it

518
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: go craziness here, So there's I think there's certainly value.

519
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: This is a battle we need to watch during training camp, though,

520
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: because that could be. You know, everything right now has

521
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 1: been in shorts, so it's easy to have a position

522
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: in this player when he's in shorts. But once pads

523
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: come on and they've installed more of the offense and things,

524
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: let's see how they're using all these guys and adjust accordingly.

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Speaker 1: You know. The crazy thing is, I don't think we're

526
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Speaker 1: gonna I don't think we're gonna be able to parse

527
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Speaker 1: out anything regarding Nihehines even in training camp, because again,

528
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: I mean, just look at his size, right, I mean

529
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: we're talking about fiveund back. I mean, what are you

530
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna really see? You know what I mean, He's not

531
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna be He's not going to compete with Marlon Mack

532
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: for leadback duties. Uh, you might see him. He you

533
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: might be the only thing that you can maybe parts

534
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: out is is he going to be exclusively a third

535
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: down passing option or will he be will frank right,

536
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: get real creative. I don't think we need to use

537
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 1: him every I don't think we need to pigeonhole him

538
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: for his size. Actually, when you met mentioned his his

539
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: stature reminded me that was ray Rice. Ray Rice was

540
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: five eight two oh six per our website when he

541
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: was wrecking shop for the Ravens as a featured back.

542
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think the size is inhibiting.

543
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's not you know, Terek Cohen or liked

544
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Thomas levels of size. He's he's got some bulk

545
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: to him. Well, I mean again, I just I would

546
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: be hesitant. I mean just having seen him play a

547
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: little bit, I would just think he's not that guy. Yeah,

548
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: and and his his tape state wouldn't lead you to

549
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: believe like, oh, this is this is your feature back

550
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: there right exactly, He's not going to be that you know,

551
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: early down between the tackles type dude, you know what

552
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean. He's got speed for days obviously, but um,

553
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean he he has speed. He needs to work

554
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: on retaining that speed. Stop getting it, stop having it

555
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: drip out of you. He keep that speed inside. For

556
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: the record, he did have home run runs. At home

557
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: run he had touched down runs of eighty three, fifty four,

558
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: fifty and forty eight yards last year. That's insane. Yeah, No,

559
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: he's a. He's a big time, you know, big play

560
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: threat um. But again, i'd just be I just don't

561
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna see that kind of stuff in

562
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: training camp or even in the pre I mean, we

563
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: may see something like that in the preseason. But still

564
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I think he's still worth the dart throw if he

565
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: was like this, You don't you don't fully appreciate what

566
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: they do until the regular season actually happens, you know, probably,

567
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: But that's why he's worth a dart throw. I mean,

568
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: not a lot of people were picking up Terrik Cohen

569
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: in drafts last year, but then he when he got

570
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: out on the field and that genie came out of

571
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: the bottle of like, wow, this guy is is talented.

572
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: We gotta get all Then he had some very useful

573
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: fantasy weeks. All right, so there you go. All right,

574
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: let's get into the mock draft that we're still in.

575
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: It's a ten team PPR mock. Um. Claybon is not

576
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: in it. But you know what, it's nice to have

577
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: Clay Bond in the room. Give us, give us some

578
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: of your your takes later and what players went high

579
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: or low? Right, that's exactly right. Uh. The fact that

580
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: you know he is kind of you know, outside of

581
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: the bubble and uh kind of looking at um, you

582
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: know from afar Uh. I'd love to get his take

583
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: on how the draft is kind of unfolding as of

584
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: right now. But um, I'll ask you this, Alex. There's

585
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: a big difference I think and feel between a twelve

586
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: team league in a ten team league. It's hard not

587
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: to love your team after five rounds in a ten

588
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: team league because I mean, you're stacked at pretty much

589
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 1: every position. Yeah, it certainly happens. I mean just by

590
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: simple math of you know, by and five rounds in,

591
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: there's there's ten extra players available in a ten team

592
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: league versus a twelve team league. So that's great news

593
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: for all of your a DP s and where guys

594
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: fall to you. But I think it's still informative because

595
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: it does force you to make a lot more decisions

596
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: as you're going through through through these drafts because more

597
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: people you may not have expected are going to be available,

598
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: and they kind of really starts to dictate how your

599
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: big board is looking. Like you there are a couple

600
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: of people I I circled in here that I thought

601
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: may have gone a little high. You look at rank

602
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: and Marcus, we're both picking towards the turn. You were

603
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: as well. So Marcus picked eighth, Rank picked nine, and

604
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: you pick ten. Uh. In the third round, Rank took

605
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill as the wide receiver twelve, and that was

606
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: the second wide receiver he took. He came back around

607
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: and got Stefan Diggs, which I like there, but then

608
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: as the wide receiver fourteen, Marcus took Juju Smith Schuster.

609
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: And it's interesting to me because Josh Gordon, Larry Fitzgerald,

610
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin, Alan Robinson, Uh, Marvin Jones, all those guys

611
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: were still available when they opted for those other those

612
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: other wide receivers, which just kind of surprised me. I

613
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: don't think I would have gone the same way. I'm

614
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: not sure. I mean, I just feel Juju Smith Schuster

615
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: is an interesting one to me. Man, I'm not I'm

616
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: not acent sure what to think because Martavis Bryant gone,

617
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: they don't they don't have that specter kind of looming over.

618
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: And what Juju did in the back half of last

619
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: year was amazing. Yeah, I mean, it was fantastic. Um.

620
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: I think we had uh. And again this is it's

621
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: never a good thing to to basically say, well, he

622
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: did this for seven games, thereby he's going to do

623
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: this for sixteen dangerous games. I know it is. But

624
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: that being said, uh, and again we'll go the hashtag

625
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: on pace alert. But but no, I mean he was

626
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: like on pace to like, you know, if you extended

627
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: it out to to sixteen games. We're talking about a

628
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: guy that was on pace to do like fift hundred

629
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: yards and ten touchdowns. I mean, he was unbelievable. Okay,

630
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: now I get it. Now that being said, it's a

631
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: small sample size, but I think the potential, that potential

632
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: at least looms within the range of possibilities for Judis

633
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster. I don't know if that's a range of

634
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: possibilities for say Brandon Cooks or Larry Fitzgerald uh or

635
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: or or hell even like a Golden Tate who went

636
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Speaker 1: after him as well, you know what I mean. So

637
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Speaker 1: I agree it was a little bit early, but he

638
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get them in the next round, you know

639
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Most likely, yes, especially picking at the turn.

640
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Speaker 1: So it's one of those cases too, when you pick

641
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: at the turn, you gotta go get your guys right,

642
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: And I just I felt because I was picking ten

643
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: and I've made a bunch of terrible draft picks as well,

644
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: but I always can I feel like I can justify

645
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: some of that by saying, look, I wouldn't get that

646
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: player in the next round if I had to wait

647
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: twenty whatever picks, you know what I mean? So that

648
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of I don't know, man, So I hear

649
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Juju did go a little bit early,

650
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: maybe five, six, seven picks early, but not going to

651
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: come back to it is one of those cases to

652
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: where Juju did have a great year. But uh, he

653
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: had two big games when Antonio Brown was out of

654
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: the lineup late in the season. He went for six

655
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: seventy five and a touch against Houston. I think that

656
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: was Wasn't that that creative as a Christmas Day game

657
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: where we were treated to Tom Savage at quarterback? Uh?

658
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: And then against Cleveland in the season finale, Uh, he

659
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: went nine for a buck forty three in a touchdown.

660
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: Pretty good. So those are those are two big games

661
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: when Antonio Brown, who I don't know if you've noticed,

662
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: but that guy gets a few targets. He's pretty good

663
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: at the old football. Uh. So that that's that's just

664
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: something that concerns me. And also, we chased for years

665
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: the number two receiver in Pittsburgh. We didn't react mar

666
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: Tavis Bryant. It was always this is the year, he's

667
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: not he's not suspended, he's you know, or he's coming

668
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: back from a suspension. This is the year, when in reality,

669
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: the entirety of that time, the number two receiver has

670
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: always been there and his name is Levian Bell. So

671
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: that like Juju as talented, is as good as he is,

672
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: it's still gonna have to compete with Bell and Brown,

673
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: who are each going to get over targets. Most likely

674
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: let's talk about zero rb uh. And for those folks

675
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: who are are controversy, it's coming back, is it of it?

676
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's controversial, It's it's a it's

677
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: a draft strategy. I don't know. Uh, it's this is

678
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: my thing. No matter where you pick in the draft,

679
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: if you're a season draft. And this is why doing

680
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: mock drafts is so important. By the way, you can

681
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: go to the website NFL dot com slash Fantasy Football

682
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: to do your mock draft today. But um, the reason

683
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: mock drafts are so important is because depending on where

684
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: you pick, you might just you might be priced into

685
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: doing zero RB um. And it's not. To me. Zero

686
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: RB has always been a a particular strategy. Um, not

687
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: something that's per heard or it's outdated or clearly you know,

688
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: the running back Revival or whatever it was. Look, man,

689
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: it's sometimes you just get priced into this when you

690
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: enter into your draft. Um. Now that being said, in

691
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: a ten team or Alex, I feel as if zero

692
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: are be so much easier, though it can be. I

693
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: mean I tried it for our latest mock draft Monday.

694
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: I did a twelve team PPR mock draft and I

695
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: was picking I think tenth, and I went in saying,

696
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm just going to try this. I'm gonna take at

697
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: least three wide receivers to start, maybe four. We'll see

698
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: how my turn my team looks. And it's certainly feasible.

699
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: I think it makes more sense at the turn though,

700
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: regardless of the size hut, because once, though was once

701
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: that truly elite tier of running backs are gone, the

702
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: like last of the workhorses. You know, you're left Bell Todd, Gurley,

703
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elly, David Johnson. If you're picking ten eleven twelve again,

704
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: you might be priced into zero R right. Well, it's

705
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: which is not a bad thing. I don't think you

706
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: want to go at the top of the draft into

707
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: a zero RB and pass up one of those guys

708
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: do Antonio Brown, and then wait all the way until

709
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: it comes back around to take another wide receiver. But

710
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: the way the drafts unfold, it's certainly feasible because then

711
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: as you see, like you didn't you kind you kind

712
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: of went zero RB. Uh, you at least Rank and

713
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: Marcus all flirted with it. You guys all took a

714
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: running back relatively early. But J j I, Rashan Penny,

715
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: like Jordan Howard, Darius guys says, they're all like decent

716
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: running backs that are sitting around there and that fourth

717
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: fifth range, and even guys that went later, Lamar Miller,

718
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: Alex Collins um, you know, mark Ingram maybe coming off

719
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: a suspension. All good guys that you can get if

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00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: you load up on wide receivers earlier. If you were

721
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: to do three wide receivers off the top of your draft,

722
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Guys like j. G I, Alex Collins,

723
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: these guys they'll be there in the fourth, fifth, sixth,

724
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: round if you wanted to do it that way. And again,

725
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't know just from just from the mocks that

726
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: I've done, you almost have to go wide receiver heavy

727
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: if you're drafting on the back end of the first round.

728
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: That's just that's just kind of how I I look

729
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: at it, especially. I mean, if you look at my

730
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: first couple of picks, it was Odell Beckham and Michael Thomas.

731
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley was already gone, Kareem Hunt was already gone.

732
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I mean, who am I gonna? Would I rather have

733
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham or Melvin Gordon? Give me Odell? Would I

734
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: rather have Michael Thomas or Devonte Freeman? Give me Michael

735
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: Thomas all day long? Right? So it just it just

736
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: seems to me like that's how you know. Again, just

737
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: know that going into your draft, if you're drafting on

738
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: the back end of the first round, just know and

739
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: be prepared to take great wide receivers off the top

740
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: and have a handful of running back value guys that

741
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: you're gonna take in the middle part of your draft

742
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: as well. Let me tell you, guys, where I am

743
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: right now. What do you got? I see zero RB

744
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: as an ethos right, it is. It is a powerful

745
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: sense of being zero zero running back that that is

746
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: what I am going to do. But now you guys

747
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: are being all rational and you're talking about getting priced

748
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: into zero RB or like, depending on where you are.

749
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: So my question into you is, if you're sitting there

750
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: and looking at your draft and David Johnson and Todd

751
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Gurlier gone, Levian Bell and Zeke or gone, you say

752
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull out zero RB card, here we go

753
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: and play it. Are you a true member of zero

754
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: RB or are you not just taking advantage of a

755
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: situation and claiming to have zero RB when it's just

756
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: it's just convenient. Do you know you take zero RB?

757
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: We love it right? Or have I been mistaken? It's

758
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: not a church. I think it may have been at

759
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: church a few years ago when it first came in.

760
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: I think he's right. I think first of all, it

761
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: is a It is a church, and people who believe

762
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: in it are a little crazy about it. Okay, you're right,

763
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: it has its disciples, but most people, most fashional people

764
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: view it as a strategy that you can utilize. Well,

765
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: now that being said that, on the other end this actrum,

766
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: there are people who say you must go rb RB

767
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: off the top of your draft, no matter where you pick,

768
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: you must go rb RB. That could put you in

769
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: a situation, couldn't it that to me? Also, it is foolish.

770
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: So you're saying there's a multitude of possibilities depending on

771
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: the people in your league and the board at the

772
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: time that you pick. Correct. I know that's that's weird.

773
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: It's a radical idea. I know that's crazy. It's a

774
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: radical speaking of RB heavy though. Graham Graham Barfield from

775
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: Fantasy guer dot Com, a friend of ours, jumped in

776
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: to help chip in with this. Mox also borderline genius level,

777
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: very good. But he picked fourth and he went r

778
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: B heavy early, So I thought it'd be interesting to

779
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: look at like how his team ship shook out as well.

780
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: David Yep, Leonard four net and round two, Lashawn McCoy

781
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: round three. Then he went Doug Baldwin, zach Ertz, Chris Hogan,

782
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis, Pierre Garson. So that's kind of looking at

783
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: his start there, and I and I gotta be honest,

784
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't particularly like his team, mostly because

785
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan is your wide receiver too. Now you could say,

786
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: well he backloaded it with guys like pr Garzon, Robert

787
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: woods Um and DeShawn Jackson late. But again, I don't know,

788
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: you know. To me, it's just I know you can

789
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: always find wide receivers, but that's not a great wide

790
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: receiver corps if you're looking, you know, just again in

791
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: a ten team league, that's a pretty bad wide receiver corps.

792
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: Hogan was decent. Hogan was solid last year, and he's

793
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: got no Edelman the first four weeks of the season,

794
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: so he's he's the guy there after Gronk in that

795
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: passing game. And two, I love me some Pierre Garzon

796
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: this year. And do you what do you hate on Pierregaron?

797
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: What did I hate him? I just I just he's

798
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: a guy. To me, he's a jag. You're jagging. I

799
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: just think he's as respect. You have to open up

800
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: a special keyboard, just tote. He's not just a guy

801
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: jagged to me, I don't know. He's just he's got

802
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: a good quarterback now he's back to full health. He's

803
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: got a great offensive coordinator, the same one that led

804
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: him to his career year when he finishedes like the

805
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: wide receiver five in PPR. It's like three four, five

806
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: years ago, a long time. I will say, looking at

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00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: looking at the way that this board shook out, I

808
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: don't think if Graham would have known that Hogan would

809
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: have had to bid his I don't know if he would. Yeah,

810
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have taken this route because Landry goes right

811
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: before that, and then Amari Cooper al Sean three picks

812
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: before that, it didn't seem well. And when he took

813
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: Earth's if you look at that turn to so he

814
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: took Doug Baldwin, you're you're making a good point. And

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Speaker 1: then it went Allen. I took Allen Robinson, and then

816
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Cynthia took Golden Tate, Dvante Parker, t J took to

817
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas, and I took Marvin Jones. So five good

818
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: wide receivers went right before. It's probably like, okay, I'll

819
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: take zach Ertz. And this is sometimes you know where

820
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: like zach Ertz in the fifth round, good pick all around,

821
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: and you look all running backs after zach Ertz and

822
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: and he's thinking to himself, bro I already have three

823
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: running I can't potentially take another running back. Four unting

824
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: back picks in my first five picks, that would be

825
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: that's tough. Yeah. And then but then you, like you

826
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: were saying, Clavon, Jeffrey, Amari Cooper, Jarvis Landry too all

827
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: went right before him, So it got Sometimes sometimes you

828
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: can get hurt by the board in that way. So

829
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: it's good to be aware of how things are going.

830
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: And also, you know, he has the benefit of being

831
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: a genius every day in everyday life. But then he's

832
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: he's in this fantasy draft with a lot of people

833
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: who are very yeah, no doubt about it. And it's

834
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: one of those cases where that's why you test out

835
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: something like this, because now maybe maybe Graham looks at

836
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: his team and he's very happy with it, or he's like,

837
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: maybe instead of Lashawn McCoy, I should have grabbed Adam

838
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: Feelan there, you know, Adam Feedlan was gone. Should have

839
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: grabbed maybe uh Tyree Hill or Stephen Diggs or Josh

840
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: Gordon and then could have you know, had a little

841
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: deeper set up. Yeah. Um, I'll ask you about the

842
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: your team, Alex gil Hard. You've seemed to, at least

843
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: in the mock drafts that I've seen, gravitate towards Alex

844
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: Collins uh in various draft of him, Matt's um, you

845
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: know you got him in RB twenty eight, seventh round

846
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: round for you. So what is it about that price

847
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: range that you know, you seem to see Alex Collins

848
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: here and say, you know what, I like him there? Well,

849
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Alex Collins was just outside of a top

850
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: twenty back in both standard and PPR last year and

851
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: he didn't even really earn the starting job until week

852
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: four or five. He was very clearly the best running

853
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: back that the Ravens had on their roster. You would

854
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: watch those games. There was a market difference when he

855
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: was running the ball as opposed to like Javorious Allen.

856
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean give credit to his Irish jig dancing. That

857
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: became the favorite broadcast story every time the Ravens were

858
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: in primetime. But it seems like they're going into this

859
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: season where he's going to be the guy Buck Allen's

860
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: gonna get sprinkled in and that Ravens offense could really

861
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: be seeing a turnaround, whether or not they you know,

862
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: hopefully Joe Flacco's is healthy enough to start, but if

863
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: he's not, they actually have a backup now in Lamar

864
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: Jackson or Lamar Jackson could win out outright, but they

865
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: improved the passing game options Michael Crabtree, John Brown, Willie

866
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: Snead huge boost over what they had here. So you're

867
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: looking at an offense that as a whole should be better,

868
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: have more scoring opportunities and a featured back him and

869
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. I gotten back to backgrounds. I love both

870
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: of those guys in middle rounds. If you especially if

871
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: you ski wide receiver early. We haven't talked about you know,

872
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Hardball enough, but Hardball has done an amazing job generating

873
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: a run game from nothing. I mean, he lost two

874
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: fifths of his offensive line literally right before the season started,

875
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: and Danny woodhead in Week one, and Danny Wood who

876
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a big part of that offense.

877
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean the job that he's able to do in

878
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: generating a run regardless, it doesn't matter the personnel, the player,

879
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: it just he is able to do that. And that

880
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: is another reason why I love that Alex Collins pick.

881
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: If he ends up being that feature back for the

882
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, you know, coach Hardball is gonna find a

883
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: way to get him yards. They're gonna find a way

884
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: to have a thousand yards on the ground last year too.

885
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, man. That's pretty good again for not

886
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: starting and being in an offense, uh, you know, kind

887
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: of injury riddled quarterback with a lack last passing and

888
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: their tight their tight ends got decimated last year. Two

889
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: fifts of their offensive line gone. I mean, it's just

890
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I am. I've been very impressed, but I

891
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: was extremely impressed by what coach Hardball did uh in

892
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: Baltimore last year, especially given that run game. I mean,

893
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: you know they're not going to pass. You know they're

894
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: not going to pass, and Alcohon is still out here

895
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: doing work. So I don't know, man, I I kind

896
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: of I like. Not only do I like the pick.

897
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: I love that. I'll tell you one of my picks

898
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: that I love the most, and I know you're gonna

899
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: get excited by this. Marvin Jones got him in the

900
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: fifth round, start of the fifth round, wide receiver, twenty

901
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: three overall. I think Marvin Jones is being just completely

902
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: overlooked right now, or he's at least at his ADP.

903
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: One of this, I feel like the safest picks for

904
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: their current ADP in drafts. I mean, he was like

905
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: a top twenty. I forget where he finished specifically wide

906
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: receiver last year on just a hundred and seven targets

907
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: went for yards nine touchdowns. Lions have historically been one

908
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: of the highest like volume passing offenses in the league.

909
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: Eric Keybron's gone, so that's going to free up a

910
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: bunch of targets. They didn't. They didn't address tight end

911
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: after that dominated air yards. So he dominated air yards.

912
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean, Kenny Gollady could figure in in the mix more,

913
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: but like Marvin Jones, lock him up for like a

914
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: thousand plus yards in like seven to nine touchdowns gain,

915
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: probably with a ceiling for more. Like what would it

916
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: shock you if at the end of the year, Marvin

917
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Jones is looking at like a ten season, No, I wouldn't.

918
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: I think the specter of Kenny Golladay worries some people exactly,

919
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: and especially guys like us who uh track players like

920
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay, you know what I mean? And I think

921
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: in regular drafts, no one's gonna think about Kenny Golladay

922
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: and how would might impact Marvin Jones. But you get

923
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: ten people in one room where uh all you do

924
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: is think about fantasy football. The specter Kenny Golladay I

925
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: think worries some folks in terms of the upside for

926
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: for Marvin Jones. Golden might have hurt that case a

927
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: little bit, uh this week when he said that Kenny

928
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: Golladay and this would be the thing that would scare people, say,

929
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: a he is a one receiver type of guy. That

930
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: was what Golden Tates one receiver type of guy, meaning

931
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: he was going to be the number one I don't

932
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: know is that what Golden Tate meant, or could he

933
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: have meant something like, you know, Kenny's a nice guy.

934
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Or was Golden Tate saying, Hey, Kenny Golladay is our

935
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: one receiver and we're all getting in line because this guy,

936
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: he mows the grass, he brings home the food. He's

937
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: well interesting for somebody like Golden Tate, who would just

938
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: consumes so many targets to to say something like that.

939
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: But hey, yeah, I mean Golden Tate had a hundred

940
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: twenty targets last year. He could be lashing out at

941
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: the idea of a one receiver and how society has

942
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: never really said that Golden Tate fits that mold. Maybe

943
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: maybe that's what Golden or we don't. Or he's saying

944
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay is really good and we should be worried

945
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: about Marvin Jones's targets. That's interesting, you know, again and

946
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: again we we've talked about on this podcast at nausea.

947
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: But targets is certainly a great predictor of fantasy success.

948
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: But air yards is also equally important. If you look

949
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: at the data. Uh, if you look at the numbers,

950
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: look at them. Look at them, baby, they're right there,

951
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: They're right there. Just look at them, their numbers. Just

952
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: look at them. Please. No. But the correlation between air

953
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: yards and fantasy success also, uh, there's a strong tie

954
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: there as well. So you want to look at targets

955
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: and air yards. That's why we bring up air yards

956
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: regarding to kenne Galady and regarding Marvin Jones. If Marvin

957
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: Jones sees and dominates the air yards like he did

958
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: last year, that's why he is a top fifteen wide receiver.

959
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: I think there's space for all of them to succeed

960
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: to to Gala sleeper status. They ran They ran eleven personnel,

961
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: one running back, one tight end, three whiteouts on under

962
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: just under seventy three of their place last year. That's

963
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: that's a lot. It's a lot of opportunities for those

964
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: guys to go out, get get routes, get their air yards.

965
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: And with ERICI round, I was just pulling it up.

966
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: Had eighty six targets last year. They don't really have

967
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: a tight end that's going to step in and eat

968
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: into that load. So that could you know, Golladay had

969
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: forty eight last year. You could just flip those roles

970
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: of the coaching staff too. We're not they still have

971
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: they still have JDC though Jim Bob Cood still run

972
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: on the offense, so that's going to be consistent. Uh So,

973
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: there could certainly be a case where all three of

974
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: those guys pushed for like a hundred looks. I wouldn't

975
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: hate it, man, you know, I wouldn't hate It's a

976
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's an intriguing you know, Wide receiver Corps certainly.

977
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: Uh they're in Detroit. Um. Another note is that Mike

978
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: Evans and A. J. Green, they're really I don't want

979
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: to say they're falling, but I think a lot of

980
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: folks might be surprised. I've at least gotten some questions

981
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: as to the value for Mike Evans and A J. Green, Like, oh,

982
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: why are they following so far? Because Uh, in industry

983
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: mocks that we've done, they're no higher than a mid

984
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: second round pick, no higher. And even in our H

985
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: ten team you know mock, they're going late second and

986
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: they went back to back uh in the later part

987
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: of that second round. And I don't I guess I

988
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: don't know how to explain it other than their targets

989
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: share and their offenses in general. I think there's a

990
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: lot of question markets. Not for Green. I think for

991
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: Evans shirt they've got a lot more. Well, A J.

992
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: Green fits more into the we don't know what the

993
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: hell we're going to see offensively, we know A J.

994
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: Green is going to get a lot of targets, get it.

995
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean last year was a top ten wide receiver

996
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: last year and it was like considered a quiet year

997
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: for him that he posted seventy five a thousand and eight,

998
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: Like that's that's a good year for a wide receiver,

999
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: and you think to the earlier parts of his career,

1000
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: like that echelon that could easily get back to where

1001
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: we're talking eleven. Can he get there? Though? I can.

1002
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: They've addressed the offensive line. They drafted a new center.

1003
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: They traded for Cordy Glenn. Uh they John Ross reports

1004
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: that he's actually going to be on the football field

1005
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: this topic, which is good news. I mean, all all

1006
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: he has to do is get on the field, James

1007
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: just be there. So they've got now. They don't forget too.

1008
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: They switched coordinators after week to last year, so they

1009
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: the whole off season in the whole installed was kind

1010
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: of like just thrown up in thrown up in arms.

1011
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: They had a bad offensive line. I think everything went

1012
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: everything went south for them. But Green is still an

1013
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: elite talent. I have him a tier above in my

1014
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: fantasy rankings Mike Evans. I had still firmly put Green.

1015
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: I think he's an early second, maybe in a deeper

1016
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: league PPR first round pick because you would rather have

1017
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: A J. Green than Mike Evans hundred out of a

1018
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: hundred times. Wowow interesting. I think that would surprice some folks. Well,

1019
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: you look at touched on upside, I think for Mike Evans,

1020
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: is is pretty high. I mean a J. Green's had

1021
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns three times in his seven year career,

1022
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: and that includes two years where he didn't finish the

1023
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: full season because of injuries. Uh, you also look at

1024
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: the offensive makeup of those guys, like, uh, A J.

1025
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Green is is the guy in his offense. Mike Evans

1026
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: has two great tight ends he has to compete with

1027
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: as well. A J. Green has a good tight end.

1028
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: We don't know his we don't know his health. They've

1029
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: got two Sean Jackson, They've got Chris Godwin pushing for

1030
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: looks like right now, a lot of these other guys

1031
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: outside of a J. Green are more theoretical in our minds,

1032
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: Like we'd love John Ross to see him on the field.

1033
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: We'd love a healthy Tyler Eiford Again, Tyler iff it's

1034
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: played like twelve games out of the past forty eight

1035
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: he could have played. Yeah, I don't. I don't know,

1036
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: even though I mean I've seen some people say, oh,

1037
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm excited about Tyler. It's like, come on, you look

1038
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: at that. And like Mike Evans, Mike, he's not gonna

1039
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: play him his best. He's injured already. His best fantasy

1040
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: year came when he like led the league in targets

1041
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: at one of his best years, but he hasn't come

1042
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: close to that recently. And I don't and I don't

1043
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: know that he will again, given that there's so many

1044
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: options in that offense. I just think I think part

1045
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: of it is the Bengals were so bad, uh last year,

1046
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: in which is why we're overlooking how good of a

1047
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: year that A. J. Greenhead? All all right, I don't,

1048
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't hate the the idea behind it. Um.

1049
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: I do think though, that that would surprise the folks

1050
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: because a lot of folks really really like Mike Evans man. So, um,

1051
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think Mike Mike Evans is a fantastic

1052
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: football player too. I just were when we're talking about

1053
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: fantasy where you need that volume in that portion of

1054
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: the offense. Uh. A J. Green's AJ Green is a

1055
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: clear winner for me. Um. I look at your team,

1056
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 1: Alex Killhar, I absolutely loved it. You just basically took

1057
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: guys that fell to you. Man, what not? What pick?

1058
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: Were you the third pick? All right? So you're the

1059
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: third pick? You fell into Todd Gurley. You got Davante

1060
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: Adams in the second round, almost took A J. Green

1061
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: over him. I was I was looking at both of

1062
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: those guys long and hard, but I decided on Adams.

1063
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: Gotta be a little bit of a home you know

1064
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: you're the Green Bay guy. Hey, come on, Uh, you

1065
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: took Christian McCaffrey, Allen Robinson, Lamar Miller. So you're running

1066
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: backs right now? Look like Todd Gurley, Christian McCaffrey, Lamar Miller.

1067
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: Your wide receivers, uh, Davante Adams and Allen Robinson. You've

1068
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: got Alex oh and Marvin Jones. UM, and you've got

1069
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Alex Collins there for depth. You've got Greg Olsen at

1070
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: tight end, Kirk Cousins as shirt wide receiver. You got quarterback.

1071
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, as you're back. Yeah, they're moving them all

1072
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: over the formation. You didn't know. Uh, and Paul Richardson

1073
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: as a major sleeper. That's exactly right. I think you

1074
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: killed this draft. I think you absolutely killed this draft.

1075
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: You've got no holes, and you've got great depth and

1076
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: great upside at pretty much every position group as well.

1077
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: I feel absolutely killed, Uh this draft. Um in regards

1078
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: to Marcus Grant's team, who's not here, but also Rapiss

1079
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: team a little bit. He took Nuke and Julio off

1080
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: the top. He had Jordan Howard in the third round

1081
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: as his RB one in a PPR. I don't know.

1082
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: I've I've talked on this podcast before, I think, and

1083
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: I was tweeting a lot about it. I think people

1084
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: are overthinking Jordan Howard. They're really overthinking it. Good player,

1085
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: great player, touchdown upside. Offense should be a lot better,

1086
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: had more scoring upside. I mean, he was like the

1087
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: RB ten or eleven in PPR last year. Like who

1088
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: he has. Maybe he has skillets for hands, doesn't matter

1089
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: if he gets in the end zone nine times a

1090
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: year and he could use them as weapons. He could

1091
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: use those skillets as weapons. That's a very good great

1092
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: helps blocking when you've got two skillets, skillets and the sound.

1093
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: He's got Darius Guys and Tevin Coleman as his other

1094
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: running backs. Jimmy Garoppolo is his quarterback. In regards to

1095
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: my team, I will say this um so off the top.

1096
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: I had Odell and Michael Thomas, like I said, I

1097
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: love those picks. I reached for Deshaun Watson the third round.

1098
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: I don't know why the hell I did that, because

1099
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: what the hell? Because you figured Adam Rank was gonna

1100
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: take him in two picks if you didn't, Maybe that's

1101
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: what it was. I don't know. I probably should have

1102
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: just waited for Aaron Rodgers who went like five rounds

1103
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: later something. He went three rounds later. Yes, I reached

1104
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson. I felt like I reached for a

1105
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: j G I as well, for first pick in the

1106
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: fourth round. So we're talking the thirty first over there

1107
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: with news this morning, Doug Petersonson, they're going into camp

1108
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: and JGI is going to be the guy, and we

1109
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: had talked about this. I've been banging the table for

1110
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: JGI all all offseason. Who else is it gonna possible?

1111
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: I think I think his ADP is starting to climb

1112
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: to a much more reasonable spot. Like I mean, when

1113
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: we started doing these mocks a month or two ago,

1114
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: he was going to like the seventh, eighth round and

1115
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: now fourth, maybe even third makes a lot of sense.

1116
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: And I think I think also people are starting to

1117
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: chup to the off season news. They're like, yoh, Lagrett

1118
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: Blunt's not there, right, Okay, cool cool cool? Yeah, Well,

1119
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: we like and it's great to have Darren Spoils back,

1120
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: But the dudes like thirty four and he has two

1121
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: major I'm root for him. I loved watching Darren Spoils,

1122
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: Like God, A long is Darren sly like twelve years.

1123
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it's it's I remember I remember

1124
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: him playing Troy when I was in school, is right,

1125
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: Troy case State. So like the entire most of money,

1126
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: those little legs just just just churning up the fields.

1127
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: God's people apart. He's been doing it forever. But like,

1128
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: let's let's be real, He's probably not going to come

1129
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: into a massive workloading. Corey Clement will be great as

1130
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: the change of pace guy, but it would make sense

1131
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: that j I an actual proven workhorse. Let's not forget

1132
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: like two years ago he has eight touchdowns or whatever,

1133
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: but then he needs a great offense. But he needed

1134
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: he needed an attitude at jokes. He needed to learn

1135
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: his lesson by getting traded to the super Bowl. So

1136
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: now he's better. But no, I I think I found

1137
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: value in Marshawn Lyncho. I took super super Lately. I

1138
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: agree I had highlighted him. You got him as the

1139
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: RB thirty six. Um. I think in PPR Marshawn falls

1140
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: a little more um and the some of the standard

1141
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: mocks I've done, he's gone a little higher because people

1142
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: are worried about his uh like reception workload, but I

1143
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 1: was looking back at this and Gruden's last three years

1144
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: as a head coach for the Buccaneers. Uh and oh eight,

1145
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: he gave Warren done work done, excuse me, twelve percent

1146
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: of the passing game targets in two thousand seven. Michael

1147
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: Pittman had eight percent. But I know, right, lashback Pittman

1148
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: had four so he has he has thrown plenty of

1149
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: passes to his backs. And actually over that same span, uh,

1150
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: just overcent of the total team targets in that three

1151
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: year span went to running backs and fullbacks. Now that

1152
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: was split up among twelve players, so that wasn't like

1153
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: I got a clear guy there. However, you know, if

1154
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: if he's feeding Marshawn, or it's Marshawn and Doug, there's

1155
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: certainly a reasonable you know, you could reasonably assume they

1156
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: might get he might get like thirty receptions or something,

1157
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: which not bad, No, I agree, especially for a running

1158
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: book in the ninth round. Yeah, that's exactly right. So

1159
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: and I and I still think his a DP is

1160
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: too low. Um, and and I'll happily take him in

1161
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: most of my drafts. I think, you know, I may,

1162
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: I may reach for him just because I love marshawn

1163
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: As as a player, but um, you know the whole

1164
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: cal connection thing and blah blah blah blah. But I mean, look,

1165
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: the bottom line is, back half of last season he

1166
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: was great. He was one of the best running backs

1167
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: in the league period. You know. It's almost like the

1168
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: guy who came out of retirement needed a few weeks

1169
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: to get the physical rigor of the NFL. That's that's

1170
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: a theory. It would seem that would be a pretty

1171
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: He had to go get that ladder, get the cleats

1172
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: off the get back into shape. That's exactly right. Two

1173
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: sleepers that I I liked in my draft as well,

1174
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: d J. Moore in Caroline at the rookie running rookie

1175
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver rather, I almost said running back, because I

1176
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: tell you what, once he gets that ball in his hands,

1177
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: he looks like a back actually. Um. And Tyler Lockett,

1178
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: who we have highlighted in Love. Yeah, I mean, he's

1179
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: just a clear cut number two one receiver there. Um,

1180
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: And see if Paul Richardson's gone, and I know he

1181
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: wasn't a huge factor, but you know he's there, you

1182
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And Tyler Lockett looks to slide

1183
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: in and assume most of that work. So, um, I

1184
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: really like ty Lockett as a deep sleepering you've highlighted

1185
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: him to yeah, uh in your written piece. I think

1186
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: two more guys would like to point out that I

1187
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: don't know that we've talked about a lot are actually

1188
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: on the Jets. Robby Anderson FABS took him the wide

1189
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: receiver fifty one in the twelfth round, right, I do

1190
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: not draftless most of because we don't know what his

1191
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: what we don't know what his situation, Patrick are our

1192
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: news hound over here, didn't like his charges get dismissed

1193
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. The traffic violation was was thrown out completely.

1194
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: Um was there something else though? The felony port portion

1195
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: got uh got thrown out, but they're still legal charges pending. Well,

1196
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: so right now as it stands, no suspension or anything.

1197
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: Wide receiver fifty one for Robby Anderson fantastic value and

1198
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: then by the same token, Isaiah Cowell Dylan grabbed him

1199
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: in the eighth round as the RB thirty five. Probably

1200
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: not as much upside in PPR AS and standard, but uh,

1201
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: they gave him a decent contract and they also right

1202
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: now like their backfield doesn't have like anybody really to

1203
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: truly compete with him for close to a featured work list.

1204
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: Elijah McGuire is going to figure he'll get some change

1205
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: of pace. Well, all Powell is still gonna be there,

1206
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: and he'll get some passing game work and some carries

1207
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: as well. And I think that's kind of what people

1208
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: kind of worry about, right But as as we were

1209
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, it would not shock me at all

1210
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: if Isaiah Cowell came in and saw fifty to sixty

1211
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: of that entire backfield and the Jets and the Jets offense,

1212
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: which could be a decent offense. They're not going to

1213
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: set the world on fire, but if the Jets finished

1214
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: middle of the pack and a lot of offensive categories

1215
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: would have totally shock us. No, So I think I

1216
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: think that was really good value for Dylan to get

1217
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: Isaiah well there that I don't know. I don't know

1218
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: if i'm speaking at a turn here, but I will

1219
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: assume that there will be a mock draft right up here.

1220
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm working. I've been working on it, and

1221
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: once we get the whole thing concluded, we'll post it

1222
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: on dot com, hopefully in the next day or so.

1223
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash gil har if you want that

1224
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: right up in the next day or two, or taping

1225
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, look forward on Thursday Friday. So there

1226
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: you go. All right, let's close out your show with

1227
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: a round of daily DAPs, DAP steps, dog bites, and

1228
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: dipping steps. If you like creepy rabbits, this movie is

1229
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: for you. Deerate is down there. This is why I

1230
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: love this group of guys are like, this is the

1231
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: first daily DAP section for Patrick. Yes, I'm excited, Bade

1232
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: at top of the world. I'm just soaking this in

1233
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: right now. This is good. We'll start with the Whiski

1234
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. Alex Gale hard what you got gonna daily

1235
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: DAP Just in general, the World Cup obviously so fun

1236
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: and so fun, Like the story is fun, stories, the upsets,

1237
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: the goals, the quality of play. The gas have like

1238
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: four owned goals already, like which is heartbreaking for some

1239
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: of those teams and players, but like it's just it's

1240
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: just fantastic and it's such a fun competition that only

1241
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: comes up with four years and you get some of

1242
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: the best players in the world on on the huge stage.

1243
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun. I love seeing the

1244
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: crowd react shots to y world. Yes, because I mean

1245
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: it's it's like sad college fans on like college football

1246
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: fans on Saturdays, you know, when you guys get getting

1247
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: doing like the cobra arms but their hands on their head,

1248
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: but you just get it on a much bigger level.

1249
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: And a lot of people are in costume too and stuff,

1250
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's a lot of special and we

1251
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: get more of the exuberation side than we do the

1252
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: surrender code. Yes, yes, and it's it's good TV. It's

1253
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: like cat nip, right, you see happy people that too.

1254
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: It's just like it doesn't necessarily matter, Like I might

1255
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: have watched five seconds of hockey all year, but I

1256
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: watched the last few minutes of the final game. Just

1257
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: to see people happy is a great feeling. Even though

1258
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: it's like Putin's Homeboys, I was still I was still

1259
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching it. Right. Uh, you know you're right because

1260
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: both both on the player level, because scoring a goal

1261
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: for your country in the World Cup, like they lose

1262
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: their minds, like it's it's the thing you dream about

1263
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: as a kid playing the sport, Like it's not only you,

1264
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: not like scoring a goal is incredibly hard in general

1265
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: and soccer, but then you go and score it for

1266
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: your country on the world stage against another country's eleven

1267
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: best players. Like it's it's insane. So daily depths of

1268
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: the World Cup in general and then uh, daily depths

1269
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: to Hereditary. It's an indie horror movie that came out

1270
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: recently this past weekending. Tony Collette Gabrielle Byrne is in it.

1271
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: Um it's very good in theaters, it's it's creepy, uh

1272
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: and it'll it'll probably make you uncomfortable at a lot

1273
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: of points, but I I really enjoyed. I'm a big

1274
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: fan of horror, and it was good to get a

1275
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: nice slow barn because it's not it wasn't a lot

1276
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: of horror movies put the emphasis on the horror and

1277
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: the silly jump scares and stuff like that, but this

1278
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: was much more on the family dynamics as stuff was

1279
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: kind of unfolding around them. And I don't want to

1280
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: say anything to spoil anything, but it was very good

1281
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: to go check it out. Close to too scary? Is

1282
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: it too scary? I don't think it's too scary. It

1283
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: does it's a much better job of in the first chunk,

1284
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: just building up suspense, intention and drama. So there's not

1285
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: like a lot of things that happened that you're like

1286
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: where you jump out of your seat, but you just

1287
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: get unsettled and stuff happens like I I yield a

1288
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: lot of expletives in the theater just because I was like,

1289
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: not like I was shocked here, but it was more

1290
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: just like what the stuff was happening. So it was

1291
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: good in that regard. And then as a very very

1292
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: exhilarating conclusion as well, Pastor Clay pop the top on

1293
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 1: this Bad Place. I would be remiss if I came

1294
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: here on this Esteemed podcast and did not assign a

1295
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: daily dep to a place that has meant a lot

1296
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: to me. Is a place where I have found friends.

1297
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: It is a place where I met my wife. It

1298
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: is a place where I build relationships, and that is

1299
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: Twitter dot com. And this week Twitter, myself and so

1300
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: many people in our industry participated in an absolute roasting

1301
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: of Edward Werder, and I loved every second it was.

1302
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: It was wow. I mean, the roasting was so extreme

1303
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: that he was at one point the number four trending

1304
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: topic in America. That is a man getting dragged on

1305
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: Twitter dot com was the fourth most just a barbecue,

1306
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: and then and then there was like there were ancillary

1307
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: barbecues as well, you know the Twitter fights that like

1308
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: branched off from the main Twitter, you know what I'm saying. Like,

1309
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: and and it was just good. It was good to

1310
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: see a bunch of good, decent people highlighting something that's

1311
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: been a problem in our society since our society in general,

1312
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: since humanity has existed. Yeah, that literally literally the very start.

1313
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: So that that was good. That gets gets my daily

1314
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: dap uh. And secondary another thing the special to me

1315
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: at last, the last two SIPs of smoothie, Um, are

1316
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: they just they're special? That they're They're not just special

1317
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: because I get sad because I'm thirsty right now and

1318
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: I want to smoothie and I'm doing to you guys

1319
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: and everybody listening. But I get sad when the smoothie

1320
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: is almost done. And so it's so funny. I I

1321
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: think the last couple of SIPs of the smoothie are

1322
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: not good because sometimes they're grainy. Well, you just haven't

1323
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: been drinking your smoothie fast enough. You gotta get see.

1324
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I I that's my trouble with Yeah,

1325
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: crush it. You get brain freeze and you're like, oh,

1326
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: this is this is almost done. I'm gonna have to

1327
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: do that thing where I'm like searching around like you know.

1328
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: But like so before that point, there's this that that's smooth, like,

1329
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: oh I'm having this, It's about to be gone. So yeah,

1330
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm dapping. I'm dapping you guys, like everybody that that

1331
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: listens to this, that puts fruit in a blender and

1332
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: serves it to to a suspecting person like me, Thank you.

1333
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. The last couple of bites of

1334
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: a burrito are always special because all of the all

1335
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: of the juices are flown down see by the same token.

1336
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: Though lots of times if they how they wrap it,

1337
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: you can get way more tortilla and on the bottom. Also,

1338
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: if you go with we're getting way off the rails here.

1339
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: But if Dailey depths, it always happens. You know, if

1340
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: you get that greasy carnassata, you know what I'm saying,

1341
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 1: then it's too oily on the bottom. Then it gets

1342
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: a little troublesome. But if it's a well made, good burrito,

1343
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: the last couple of bites of a breed testing. You

1344
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: get the bits of the fat and the cheese and

1345
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: the tortilla kind of melding together. All it's all melted together.

1346
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: It's this one thing. And I'm like, am I eating cheese?

1347
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: This is tortilla? What is this? It's just delicious. That's why.

1348
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: It's like when we're talking about the last bits of something,

1349
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: the last part of a root beer float. Yes, you

1350
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: get ice cream and root beer have almost just become one.

1351
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: That's exactly. And it's got the perfect consistency. And you're

1352
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: looking picked flavors and you're just like, why was this

1353
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: not the entire things? Thank you? You're looking for that

1354
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: marriage the entire time, which you can get you blend

1355
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: them together. The restaurant I used to work at when

1356
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: I was in high school called it a black cow

1357
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: a black cow, and there was orange cows too, if

1358
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: you did with orange soda. I see what you say

1359
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: in this conversation, like, I'm literally going to the dentist

1360
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: after really here, it's probably I don't have a single

1361
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: tooth that doesn't have a filling in it, and uh

1362
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: that sounds that's why. Yeah, And I'm gonna have to

1363
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: day like the fact that I have a tooth with

1364
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: an Actually now I think we went to going to

1365
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: the bar after work and I'm like, can you make

1366
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: me a root beer float? Do you have ice cream?

1367
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: And be like no, this is a bar. Well I

1368
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: brought this ice cream in here, Like give here. You

1369
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: go stop at seven eleven on the way and just

1370
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: get a small pint to vanilla and give me a

1371
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: root be here. Wow, this is we may get Patrick

1372
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: clay Bond back on the Yes, we should for just

1373
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: for this reason. I'm so glad I saw him slack

1374
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: that you were like free and didn't have anything to do,

1375
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: and we're debating going to the end of the summer.

1376
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: I was like, don't do that. Come on the podcast.

1377
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: I got a couple of hours to kill, Okay. I

1378
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 1: will daily Dappa. A fellow by the name of Patrick Laird.

1379
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: He is a running back for the University of California

1380
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: at Berkeley. UH. Not for the reason you think it's

1381
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: gonna be um because he's a fellow Calbert. But he

1382
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: is started a summer initiative with Berkeley UH and the

1383
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,799
Speaker 1: football team. But he's got something called the Summer Reading Challenge.

1384
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: I like it, UH, And he is going around to

1385
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: various elementary schools and encouraging the students there to read

1386
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: during the summer break. Uh. He calls it. I think

1387
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: like uh, I think like learning loss or something. You know,

1388
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: basically you veg you out during the summers. Um. But

1389
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: if you pick up a book, you know a lot

1390
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: of the things that you've the basic stuff that you've

1391
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: learned throughout the school year. Uh, you retain it a

1392
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: lot better. Um. And so what he's doing, he's going

1393
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: he's going around to various schools and encouraging the students

1394
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: there to read. It's the summer reading challenge. Um, He's

1395
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: and he's telling and he's working with cow football where

1396
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: if you read I think something like four books this summer,

1397
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: you can. Then they give you a journal and you know,

1398
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: you you do your little book reports on them or

1399
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Uh. You could turn that journal

1400
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: in for four tickets to Col's opener against North Carolina.

1401
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: That's not bad idea, that's not bad. People need to read,

1402
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and this is this

1403
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: is Patrick Laird's thing. When he scores a touchdown, he's

1404
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: a walk on and he's a great story. If if

1405
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: you you know if you want to read up of

1406
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: a little bit about Patrick Laird's backstory. He's a great story.

1407
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: He's a walk on a cow um and when he

1408
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: scores a touchdown, his touchdown celebration is to open an

1409
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: imaginary book and read it. Um. And it's the most

1410
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: Berkeley thing ever. Watch some more some more cow games

1411
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: this year. I love this kid, Patrick Laird. Uh, and

1412
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: not only for his you know, things on the football field,

1413
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: but but also obviously his interests off of it as well.

1414
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: So Daily DAPs to Patrick Laird. If you want to

1415
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: know more about this program, I think you can just

1416
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: look at Patrick Laird and uh the Summer Reading Challenge.

1417
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: So there you go. Producer Christina closes out what you get.

1418
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: What's up? I have to daily DApp to my family.

1419
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: We just got back. Yeah that was awesome week in

1420
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: the sun. So yeah, it was great to get everybody

1421
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: together go on vacation for how I think we got

1422
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: like close to twenty of us, so yeah, it was

1423
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: quite the family. My grandparents last big hurrah, so they figured,

1424
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, how many other trips are we gonna get?

1425
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: So we got everybody um and then daily dap to

1426
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: our good friends Sully it was his birthday yesterday. Um,

1427
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: although yes, yes, we went to trivia last night. I

1428
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: don't know how he's feeling today. I can get up

1429
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: date later. I would assume not too great. But although

1430
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: he dissed Wildcats last week, did immediately immediately It's like

1431
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: it's almost like he knew Producer Christine is not going

1432
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: to survive more than five minutes of this podcast. Let

1433
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,839
Speaker 1: me just get it out in the first thirty seconds exactly.

1434
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: That's what he legitimately, you were like, And we go

1435
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: to Sully behind the glass. What's up? Pally's like Wildcats?

1436
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: Sully is He's got to hope things get turned around,

1437
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: because yeah, in this it's it's two thousand eighteen. Man,

1438
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: you can't be trying to dunk on people about SEC

1439
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: athlete the last years. As I said then last week

1440
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: to Sully, it is always the year of the vall

1441
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: and his dunk specifically was on for basketball because the

1442
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee is supposed to be pretty good this year. I

1443
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: guess literally, that's that's all he can hang his hat.

1444
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: He hypothetical about like let it go. I mean, anybody

1445
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: else if you're a fan of if you're a fan

1446
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: of anybody or anything. Just I mean because the college athletics,

1447
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: God love it. You know what I'm talking about, James.

1448
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: You know what you guys have been having the same

1449
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: arguments and making the same dunks on people for fifty years.

1450
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: Like let some of that stuff go, which reminds me

1451
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: I forget if they were adapted. But Spencer Hall did

1452
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: a great breakdown of the rank like ranking or assigning

1453
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: pie charts to the best college football rivalries. Remember this

1454
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: piece came out a few weeks ago. That was a

1455
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: wildly entertaining read college football. Yes, the college football rivalries,

1456
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: like ranking them and then based on history, current passion,

1457
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: current like setup of the rivalry. So like you're from

1458
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: the great state of Alabama, correct, mundo, and then you

1459
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: are very familiar, very close. Yeah. And in my my

1460
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: connection to college football rivalries is both, well, this is

1461
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: a good thing that brings attention, and it's also some

1462
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: fans are insufferable and they're just not good people, and

1463
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 1: they hurt they hurt the converse stations around sports with

1464
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: their insufferable bad people. It's the state of Alabama. I've

1465
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Speaker 1: always wondered this, in the actual state of Alabama, what

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Speaker 1: is the bigger rivalry the iron ball, So against Auburn

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Speaker 1: or or Georgia, now it's the iron ball is the

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Speaker 1: is the biggest rivalry. And people will argue, they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: argue about the state of the rivalry, but it's always

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Speaker 1: out that that's what I'm wanted having that argument. The

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Speaker 1: reason I wondered too, is because it hasn't really been

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Speaker 1: a great rivalry as of weight and seems to have

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Speaker 1: lost a little steam. But well that there was a

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Speaker 1: stress like to get up for Georgia though. Man, well,

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Speaker 1: and it's the rarity of of Bama Georgia games and

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Speaker 1: and Auburn Georgia. Obviously they play every single year. But

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Speaker 1: you you go to school with people, you grow up with,

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Speaker 1: people who live across the street from people who look

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Speaker 1: at those colors, and it's the it's the same bad

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Speaker 1: fans stuff, and it's like it's just just Bears fans,

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Speaker 1: you know, being like Brian Urlacher got you that one time.

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Speaker 1: It's like the dog that was two thousand and four,

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Speaker 1: like what are we doing these to residential administrations? Ago?

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Speaker 1: Go away, that's great. Update your roasts. I don't know

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Speaker 1: your roast. We went on this road, but I love it,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get Patrick's fault himself on the podcast again.

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Speaker 1: The Patrick play Von Alex Gelhar and for There's a Christada,

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Speaker 1: I'm James co Let's catch you next week. I don't

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Speaker 1: know