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Speaker 6: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. We are back here

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Speaker 6: live on Radio Row, super Bowl sixty. It's Deuce, it's Paul,

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Speaker 6: it's me. We'll have a parade of guests like we

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Speaker 6: did yesterday. It's gonna be even better than it was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Guys, it's busier here than It's pretty wild.

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Speaker 7: It's pretty wild here at Radio Row.

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Speaker 6: We've seen Cam Newton, We've seen Dave Portnoy walk by,

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Speaker 6: Joe Montana's in the house, a lot a lot of

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Speaker 6: people just it's crazy and it's gonna get even crazy

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Speaker 6: here tomorrow and Friday.

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Speaker 8: So Fred, you f forgo out one person who I

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Speaker 8: just saw and I had to go smoke a cigarette afterwards,

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Speaker 8: and that's Dereck Henry. Everybody, Yes, if you're a pun

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Speaker 8: whoa Dereck Henry is in the house. I don't know

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Speaker 8: if we're able to get him on the show here,

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Speaker 8: but but I took some pictures of him and I'll

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Speaker 8: savor those forever.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So it's it's pretty wild here, all right. So

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Speaker 6: we've got a big show today. We'll be here until

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Speaker 6: five o'clock Eastern time, four hours. Like I said, we'll

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Speaker 6: have some special guests. I don't like to give it

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Speaker 6: away because you never know what's gonna happen. Maybe somebody

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Speaker 6: else off. Who knows, But so it's gonna be wild.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, it's state five, five past five hundred. As always,

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Speaker 6: podcast at Patriots dot com is the way to email us.

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Speaker 6: So guys, let's let's talk a little football before we

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Speaker 6: get into all the other crazy stuff. Any you know,

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Speaker 6: Robert Spallaine I saw in his availability today says he's

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Speaker 6: one hundred percent sure that he'll be playing.

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Speaker 7: That's good news, good news.

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Speaker 8: What percentage will he be playing at that's probably the

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Speaker 8: bigger question. But he's a huge part of that defense, leader, communicator, tackler,

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Speaker 8: huge to get him back, and I think that would

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Speaker 8: be a great boost for the Patriots defense. They need him,

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Speaker 8: They need him in this game for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: A good sign though that he's feeling that strong about it.

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Speaker 9: And we'll see about Harold Landry too. But I agree

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Speaker 9: with Mike. I think Splaine's presence in the middle, if

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Speaker 9: about the differences when he returned. And I think there's

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Speaker 9: no disrespect to the guys that played, because I think

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Speaker 9: they played well. You know, Christian Ellis and Jack Gibbons,

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Speaker 9: those guys, they filled in very well. But I think

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Speaker 9: there's definitely a loss there without Splaine.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no question.

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Speaker 6: So you know, staying at the defense, we have a

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Speaker 7: So I have a chance to reread thoughts.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thoughts with Fred and you know, for our betting

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Speaker 1: Well you are, yeah, you are, and you are eleven

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Speaker 6: I was thinking that it might be good value. And

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Speaker 6: I don't know if any of the books or the

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Speaker 7: Milton Williams M V. P Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he'll he'll have odds because he won't

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Speaker 9: have the best odds. No, it'll be really hard. It's

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Speaker 7: Yep, Aaron Donald didn't have an m VP.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe. I believe Cooper Cup won.

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Speaker 9: The Mvpper Bowl, right, but Aaron Donald absolutely could have been.

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Speaker 9: And that kind of shows you how difficult it is.

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Speaker 9: So you'd you'd get excellent odds ready.

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Speaker 7: Right for that pick. And that's why I think it's

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Speaker 7: and that's a good it's good value.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one because I think it's a possibility.

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Speaker 8: Fred Seattle one of the worst offenses, if not the

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Speaker 6: To con So, you know, I often have my feels,

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Speaker 1: Pilton Williams feel about Freddie feeling him.

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Speaker 8: He's getting felt up by Freddie Fields. I love it, though,

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Speaker 8: Fred I mean, mil Williams has been outstanding, and I

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Speaker 8: think you don't know what you got till it's gone, right, Paul,

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Speaker 8: And when Milton Williams went out of.

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Speaker 7: The lineup, you saw it.

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Speaker 8: You saw a little dip in the play. You know,

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Speaker 7: They're gonna need him.

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Speaker 8: And I just love the experience too, of him playing

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Speaker 7: Knowing what it takes.

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Speaker 8: He's not gonna be overwhelmed by this moment. And I

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, And if I'm not mistaken, I'd have to look

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Speaker 9: this up. And you know me, I'm not not much

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Speaker 9: But I don't know if there's been a defensive lineman definitely,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's interesting that for that defense, it's so like

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Speaker 4: Got sure that Richard Dent won the MVP.

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Speaker 8: Having just rewatched that game, I can attest just about

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Speaker 8: Really impressive. I mean it's uh, I mean, what this

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Speaker 7: To show him, don't get quit the availabilities.

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Speaker 6: This week we'll have Evan or somebody, uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: tests that photographic memory. But that's interesting because they say

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Speaker 8: It's a good quest at the skill. Maybe we can

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Speaker 8: Seattle Morning Television, thank you. And that's what everybody you

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Speaker 8: And I think we said it yesterday. You can't just Okay,

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Speaker 8: I think you could have Durell Reeve's tie Law and

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Speaker 7: So critical third.

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Speaker 8: Downs, that's what I'm watching. The gotta have its the

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Speaker 8: the third and mediums, Paul, you know, I like, uh,

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Speaker 7: To go, but I feel good having we get a.

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Speaker 1: Chance to see some of it. Absolutely.

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Speaker 9: You know, you want to see the best on the best,

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Speaker 9: and and that's in this game. The Patriots best corner

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Speaker 7: All right, and then there was one other thing that

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Speaker 6: All right, never mind, all right, Podcasts at Patriots dot

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Speaker 6: PATS five hundred is the hotline.

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Speaker 10: Again.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna have a parade of guests starting. Uh, let's

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Speaker 6: meet at Kimes. I think it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Our lead off. She's in the lead off spot.

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Speaker 7: Yeah about ten and Evan is gonna effort to be here.

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Speaker 8: He's bombing here. I'm sure he cannot missed that.

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Speaker 7: No, he set it up. Yeah, that is that is

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Speaker 9: We're expecting me in the times. Yeah, so hopefully we

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Speaker 7: Chris right over here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay talking to uh that guy.

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Speaker 8: He won Super Bowls back to back years with different teams,

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Speaker 6: You know, he's not for Patriots fans. He's not giving

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Speaker 8: Like, what more do you need from the guy? I mean,

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Speaker 1: Now he's Mike doesn't have any time for that.

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Speaker 7: I was here and I don't like him now right.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what what what he did here was

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Speaker 6: I guess there was a social post that went out

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Speaker 9: It's it's.

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Speaker 6: Friday night from four to seven at a place called

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Speaker 7: So those are the two rally places for Patriots fans.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure, they'll be giveaways, cheerleaders, mascot, all kinds of

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Speaker 9: So you know, you play your cards right. Maybe you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, going on, I'm a little slack. How was your drive?

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Speaker 12: It wasn't terrible terrible today terrible. You know, I'm one

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Speaker 8: You know, I thought you were going to fight dan Orlowsky.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I definitely think that that's a matchup that

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Speaker 4: Uh, they're right.

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Speaker 7: For I think you can't the MVP of that. He didn't.

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Speaker 4: Well you know what that means?

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Speaker 6: Uh, David Monterey, I've been telling my friends that I'm

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Speaker 7: I think that makes it.

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Speaker 4: Have to forget about Mike. No, you don't forget.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to be sad it was over. Just

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, sound like the Navy celia.

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Speaker 9: You're on the right side. You're on the right side

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Speaker 8: Yeah no, there were a couple of people that were

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Speaker 8: subtracting on that.

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Speaker 7: That's all right, Okay, let's see Sam and Halifax UK.

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Speaker 6: With all the talk about Seattle being a scheme, Defense

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Speaker 6: and Evan mentioning last week the possibility that the complex

445
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Speaker 6: scheme could land defenders out of position. Does this present

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Speaker 6: an opportunity for Henderson to find to crease it hit

447
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Speaker 6: a big play. It's likely he might struggle in terms

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Speaker 6: of traditional running, but I'm feeling a forty plus yard

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Speaker 6: play from him this game day.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we talked about that a little bit yesterday. I

451
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Speaker 9: think your better chances of production in the running game,

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Speaker 9: I think is something like that as opposed to lining

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Speaker 9: up traditionally and getting them for five yards of carry.

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Speaker 9: They were really stout run defense. They only allow about

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Speaker 9: ninety yards. But all defense is susceptible to one big play.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you never know if you crease somebody, you

457
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Speaker 9: block one up perfectly and Henderson, you know, hits it,

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Speaker 9: and you know that's go back to whatever that stretch

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Speaker 9: was Tampa, you know, the stretched to like Buffalo where

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Speaker 9: it was all of a sudden he was big play

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Speaker 9: after big play. Maybe one of those turns to Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: He averaged, I believe, near the top of the league

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Speaker 12: in terms of average yards per carry against two high

466
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Speaker 12: safety shelves, which is what Seattle bases their defense out

467
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Speaker 12: of more than any other defense in the league. They

468
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Speaker 12: played two ice safeties at like seventy five clip and Henderson,

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Speaker 12: you know, lighter boxes, more space to kind of see increases.

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Speaker 4: And maneuver in there. The hope is is that maybe

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Speaker 4: he could spring one.

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Speaker 12: But I think the the other side of it, though,

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Speaker 12: is do you trust him to hold up in pass

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Speaker 12: protection because McDonald is gonna, you know, scheme it up

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Speaker 12: in the pass rush and they're gonna probably blitz a

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Speaker 12: good amount. And if he's gonna be on the field

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Speaker 12: for any sort of high volume snaps or you're gonna

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Speaker 12: trust him to pick up blitzes like Ramandre Can And

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Speaker 12: I would just say that there's a handful of big

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Speaker 12: plays that the pitches have made over the last four

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Speaker 12: to six weeks that have been almost directly responsible are

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Speaker 12: Stevenson Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, and not necessarily because he was making

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Speaker 9: the play with the ball in his hands, but making

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Speaker 9: it possible for Drake May to hit somebody with his blocking.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's kind of my X factor for this game.

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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody's really talking about him, and I

488
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Speaker 8: think it's a good example of somebody's playing really great

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Speaker 8: football here down the stretch, maybe the best football of

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Speaker 8: his career all around game, and that to me. You know,

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Speaker 8: I know it's a really tough defense, but it's one

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Speaker 8: of those things you keep hammering away, hammering away, and

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Speaker 8: you hope at some point Ormondre or Henderson maybe breaks one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's try to get some phone calls in here.

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Speaker 6: We'll start with Cole and Nebraska. What's up, Cole?

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Speaker 7: How are you doing good?

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Speaker 13: Hey?

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Speaker 14: Guys, how you got a question for you? I grew

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Speaker 14: up understanding that Bill Belichick one of his greatest pass

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Speaker 14: just eliminating the.

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Speaker 10: Best player on the team.

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Speaker 14: Let's say, hypothetically we eliminate this.

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Speaker 15: Where do the guys stand up on our defense first

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Speaker 15: arrest of their offense?

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Speaker 7: So what if we eliminate JSN, what's what's.

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Speaker 14: The rest of the defense matchup against the rest of

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Speaker 14: set off?

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Speaker 8: I mean the tight end, I think, I mean he

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Speaker 8: he had a bunch of catches and he's a big boy.

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of their early down stuff they

511
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Speaker 8: they like to go to him. I think they love

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Speaker 8: to pound Kenneth Walker. So I'd start with those two guys,

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Speaker 8: of course. Rashid Shaheed downfield speed. I mean, you just

514
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Speaker 8: you can't get beat. You can't give up a giant

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Speaker 8: score to that guy. They've obviously already played him this

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Speaker 8: year when he was on the Saints. Still, so those

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Speaker 8: are those are the three main I mean, I think

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Speaker 8: it just all starts with stopping down.

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Speaker 6: How about Seattle other than JSN, And we've talked about

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Speaker 6: this before and thanks for the call. Call is that

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Speaker 6: they're a balanced team, Like like there's nobody you know,

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Speaker 6: when you look at the numbers that is you know,

523
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Speaker 6: close to you know, one hundred catches, but it's spread

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Speaker 6: out outside of Jay, outside of JSN, it's spread out.

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Speaker 6: Now when they lost Sara, I know, Evan, you kind

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Speaker 6: of poop pooed it, but I think that was a

527
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Speaker 6: big loss for them.

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Speaker 12: I think it's a big loss for them. And Blitz

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Speaker 12: pick up. He's he's definitely the better player in terms

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Speaker 12: of blocking. Kenneth Walker is a far more dynamic runner

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Speaker 12: and has had a great playoffs. So I didn't really

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Speaker 12: expect Charbonay to play a ton outside of you know,

533
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Speaker 12: third down situational stuff where he's got to pick up

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Speaker 12: blocks or you know, in terms of like short yardage,

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Speaker 12: which is where he played a lot.

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Speaker 6: But I also see like when they needed stuff, he's

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Speaker 6: kind of a go to guy on the ground and

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Speaker 6: I see him picking up critical you.

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Speaker 12: Know, in short yardage, definitely. I mean, he's a battering ram,

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Speaker 12: He's a big dude. They won't have that ability. I

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Speaker 12: think the biggest thing with Seattle when you see teams

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Speaker 12: that have had success against their offense, it's really those

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Speaker 12: six man defensive line fronts that the Patriots actually kind

544
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Speaker 12: of started in Super Bowl fifty three. And then you

545
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Speaker 12: play with the two safeties over the top to put

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Speaker 12: a cloud, put a you know, two guys over the

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Speaker 12: top of their receivers. So can you stop the run

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Speaker 12: with six or seven guys and be able to do that,

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Speaker 12: I think is going to be one of the keys.

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Speaker 4: To the game. They run a lot of that stretch

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Speaker 4: play outside zone.

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Speaker 12: He's a Shanahan offense, Shanahan Tree type of offense, and

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Speaker 12: that's what they're gonna do. So if you can go

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Speaker 12: out there and stop the run like the Patriots have

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Speaker 12: been this postseason so far really well, then I think

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Speaker 12: that you like your chances of getting them into some

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Speaker 12: of these bad situations for their The.

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Speaker 9: Last thing that Evan just said is the reason to

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Speaker 9: answer the question if they somehow hypothetically took JSN out

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Speaker 9: of the game. I don't think the Seahawks offense would

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Speaker 9: present much of a challenge because now it's on Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 9: The Patriots run defense has been ridiculously stout when healthy.

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Speaker 9: I just don't see Seattle finding answers if you take

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Speaker 9: away something that's that big a piece of the puzzle.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, one of the biggest mismatches in this game is

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Speaker 12: Seattle and third and long versus the Patriots defense and

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Speaker 12: third and long. The Patriots defense number one in the

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Speaker 12: league in third down and long conversion rate. The Seattle's

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Speaker 12: thirty first in the league converting third and longs offensively.

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Speaker 12: So when you get him to third and long, when

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Speaker 12: you get pressure on Donald, he's not the same quarterback.

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Speaker 12: You know, he's not nearly as good in those types

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Speaker 12: of situations when it's obvious pass and he has to

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Speaker 12: drop back.

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Speaker 4: So can you do that?

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Speaker 12: That also allows you on third down to maybe double

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Speaker 12: JSN or have some sort of scheme element because you

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Speaker 12: know what pass is coming. So all those things are

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Speaker 12: prevalent on first down. I think first down is the

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Speaker 12: biggest down in this entire.

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Speaker 7: So, but you know, having said that, they're the number

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Speaker 7: one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 6: So I'm sure a lot of teams know what you're

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Speaker 6: just saying and tried to do what you're saying, and

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Speaker 6: they just couldn't do it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, not consistently.

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Speaker 7: Why couldn't not consistently?

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Speaker 8: And I mean I went through and watched, you know,

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Speaker 8: all of his interceptions this year, and I don't noticed

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Speaker 8: more than a few times he's looking at JSN first,

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Speaker 8: and if it's not there, that's when you start to

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Speaker 8: get Donald unraveled a little bit. So I think that's,

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Speaker 8: you know, a big part of it, making sure you

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Speaker 8: take him away early, but he gets open late too.

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Speaker 8: I mean there's times where Donald scial a little bit

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Speaker 8: and JSN is just too athletic. No one can stick

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Speaker 8: with him, lay in the down and Darnell finds him.

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Speaker 8: So uh, it's just it's it's hard to do it

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Speaker 8: for sixty minutes.

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Speaker 7: Every play.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna JASN is going to make some plays in

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Speaker 8: this game.

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Speaker 7: So it's so funny.

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Speaker 6: I just saw Jerry Madalon, our guy, walking with Mike

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Speaker 6: Tannon bound and then he was talking with Ben Watson,

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Speaker 6: and Watson was.

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Speaker 1: Right in front of us, so I thought he was

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Speaker 1: gonna give us a look. But he didn't know.

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Speaker 4: He was kind of head down.

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Speaker 7: You just forget all about us, Yeah, just forget about us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been on that show before.

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Speaker 9: Okay, ben you know how many how many guys walking

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Speaker 9: around here have been on this show before?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? He has true Benjamin, We'll stop talking about that

615
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Speaker 6: play you made it against Denver?

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Speaker 8: You know, all right about Hey, how about the touchdown

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Speaker 8: he had in the O nine opener against the Bills

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Speaker 8: with the up the scene of Brady with a game

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Speaker 8: winner after it.

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Speaker 4: It was a touch back to.

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Speaker 7: Let's go to herm in DCG. What's up herb.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he.

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Speaker 1: Turn, you can speak, we.

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Speaker 14: Can hear you, yes, Okay, sorry, because I'm having all

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Speaker 14: the technific issues real quick. So I can't see a

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Speaker 14: scenario where essentially my bettest song Coach Babel compared to uh,

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Speaker 14: whether Mike, Mike.

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Speaker 9: McDaniels, Matt McDonald, Mike McDonald McDonald.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I can't even thinking of the god's name, but

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Speaker 14: lost or short. I'm pretty much guaranteeing as a visual

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Speaker 14: win because again, if all the equals, I think one

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Speaker 14: of the biggest a glass to me is Coach Rabel.

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Speaker 14: I just think that he will be able to come

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Speaker 14: up with the defensive game plan to essentially slow down

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Speaker 14: to see a Seahawks offense and most typically just the

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Speaker 14: versus the Seahawks offense being able to team up against

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Speaker 14: our defensidemics.

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Speaker 9: That so, well, what about Seattle's defense against the Patriots offense?

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Speaker 1: Like McDonald's defensive coach.

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Speaker 14: I understand that, but again, I just trust Drake May, okay,

641
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Speaker 14: and Dodh McDaniels against that defense, right, And I know,

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Speaker 14: I remember you were talking about how obviously Drake May

643
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Speaker 14: didn't have the greatest playoff performance so far on my

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Speaker 14: person believe well, and it's my person believe that in

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Speaker 14: the sounds an excuse, but I do think what had

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Speaker 14: a lot of do right because ten donald, yes, he

647
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Speaker 14: lit up the Rams, but play in California, you know

648
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Speaker 14: what I mean? In California?

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Speaker 4: That yeah, okay, all right, So we're going with.

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Speaker 9: We're gonna go with the Patriots are gonna win because

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Speaker 9: they I don't think, which I don't necessarily disagree with.

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Speaker 9: I did make my pick yesterday on Patriots Unfiltered TV

653
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Speaker 9: at Niceties, and I went with the Patriots. In full disclosure,

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Speaker 9: we don't have to wait till Friday I just I

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Speaker 9: would like to have some reasoning other than yeah, well,

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Speaker 9: I just you know Rabel, Well, if we're.

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Speaker 12: Going to coaching angle, I don't think that there's much

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Speaker 12: of an advantage either way schematically. I think both these

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Speaker 12: staffs are really really good x's and o's wise Rabels

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Speaker 12: playing experience, mcdaniels's coaching experience versus what Seattle is bringing

661
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Speaker 12: to the table with a head coach and a coordinator

662
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 12: that have never been here before. I do think if

663
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Speaker 12: you want to take that route, then that's probably the argument.

664
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Speaker 12: McDonald's one of the best defensive schemers in the league,

665
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Speaker 12: and Quinn Kubiak just got a head coaching job because

666
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 12: of how good he's been on offense. So I don't

667
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 12: think that there's some big gap between the coaching staffs

668
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 12: from a x's and o's standpoint, but maybe an experience

669
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Speaker 12: standpoint that could help the Patriots.

670
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Speaker 9: And I would just say, like, would you say that

671
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 9: Mike Rabel is a better coach than Sean McDermott, Yes, yeah,

672
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 9: I mean I would. I mean I would probably go

673
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 9: into a game saying yeah, I think the Patriots have

674
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 9: an edge here, And that was probably one of the

675
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 9: most glaring mismatches in strategy. The second half of that

676
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 9: game in Foxborough, McDermott did some things that the Patriots

677
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 9: were not ready for and it completely changed the game. So,

678
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 9: like you can think you have an edge in something,

679
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 9: and as La Garrett Blunt told us, whatever you think

680
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 9: is going to happen is probably not going to come

681
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 9: out that way. Right, So there's a lot of different

682
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 9: twists and turns to these games. I do think that

683
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 9: Rabel's I love Evan's point about Rabel and McDaniel's that

684
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 9: experience I think has value in a big game and.

685
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Speaker 1: McDonald doesn't have that. Ye yeah, doesn't have the same stuff.

686
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 6: I think if you spread it out, I think Seattle

687
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 6: has better talent across the board, you know, spread out.

688
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 7: But it's not so much that they have this huge advantage.

689
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 6: When we look at these Super Bowls, We've been to

690
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 6: a few of them, right, Paul, Well, each one of these,

691
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 6: like there's like games within the game, Like you know,

692
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 6: there's certain parts of the sixty minutes that have their

693
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 6: own identity. You know, I think of the Carolina game

694
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 6: where every quarter seemed to be like a different game,

695
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 6: And you know, a lot of these it's just you

696
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 6: have to kind of break it up, and it's really

697
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 6: hard to predict what's gonna happen because it it doesn't

698
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 6: hold true throughout the whole game.

699
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 7: Like there's shifts and momentum.

700
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 6: Defenses get tired at the end a lot of times

701
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl, not just the Patriots, but you know,

702
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 6: there's a lot of energy expended up front and toward

703
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 6: the end, defenses you know, tend to you know, get

704
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 6: tired and offenses start.

705
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 7: To surge at the end.

706
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Speaker 4: I remember the first Super Bowl that the Patriots won.

707
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 6: If that game had gone into overtime, there's a good chance,

708
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 6: you know, and back then the overtime rules were different,

709
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: it's a good chance the Patriots would have lost that

710
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 6: game because the Rams were surging and our defense had

711
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 6: expended so much energy stopping Marshall Fock and Kurt Waterer

712
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 6: early that they didn't have much left.

713
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, let me ask you a question.

714
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 8: How many you know, what are the best couple of

715
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 8: Patriots defenses all time?

716
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: Three?

717
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 7: H four right?

718
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: Three?

719
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 8: Did anyone see the Carolina Panthers putting up what thirty

720
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,239
Speaker 8: something points on them?

721
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 7: You know? It is just such a bizarre.

722
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 8: No, but you know what I mean, Like, that's one

723
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 8: of the best pages defenses.

724
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great point that Fred makes.

725
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 9: And some of these games they had, like there was

726
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 9: no scoring in the first and third quarters of that game,

727
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 9: was all in the second and fourth and you know

728
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 9: Rodney breaks his arm and you know, a guy like

729
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 9: Sean Mayer. Yeah, so Brendan Schooler is playing safety with

730
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 9: the game on the line. That was Sean Mayer. He

731
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 9: was a special teamer, you know, that's all. You know,

732
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 9: that's all his role was all year and with the

733
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 9: Super Bowl.

734
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Speaker 1: You never know.

735
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Speaker 9: I was watching forty nine the other night. This is

736
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 9: the first Seattle per usual rewatching. No, it just it

737
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 9: just happened to be on NFL. So and I'm watching.

738
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 9: It was like in the middle of the second quarter

739
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 9: and the Patriots had just scored to go up seven nothing,

740
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 9: and you know, Seattle puts a drive together and Russell

741
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 9: Wilson completed his first pass of the game. They were

742
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 9: about six minutes left in the half, and it was

743
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 9: like a record for the longest to complete his first pass.

744
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 9: Then all of a sudden and you look up in

745
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 9: the middle of the fourth quarter and you're down twenty

746
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 9: four to fourteen or whatever it was. You know, Seattle

747
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 9: had certainly gotten in gear by then, So there was

748
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 9: like totally different games.

749
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: Even within the game, like Fred said, and I'll.

750
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 7: Look at the game where the Patriots lost to the Eagles.

751
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 6: All of you know, it seemed like, you know, Patriots

752
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 6: are kind of cruising, Brandon Cooks goes down, Yeah, and

753
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 6: like you look, well, you don't really need Brandon Cooks.

754
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 7: No, you did need him in that game. Well, you

755
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 7: probably needed Malcolm Butler, yeah, Maltham Butler.

756
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: But like, like you know, he tries to do this

757
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 6: crazy move where he tries to go over the guy's

758
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 6: helmet and he's out for the game.

759
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 7: Press that changed things.

760
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 6: So these Super Bowls are are different animals than I

761
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 6: think regular season games.

762
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: They really are, especially from half to half.

763
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 12: I feel like too, like because of the halftime is

764
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 12: so long that whatever you did in the you almost

765
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 12: have to have two game plans going into it, because

766
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 12: whatever you did in the first half, there's gonna be

767
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 12: that extra time for these coaches to figure out what

768
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 12: you were doing, and then there's gonna be adjustments to

769
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 12: the first half. And so you's often hear and sometimes

770
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 12: that they almost have two different game plans going into

771
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 12: the game because they know that that sort of thirty

772
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 12: plus minute halftime is a lot longer than it normally is.

773
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 6: Yep, you know, in game adjustments, that type of thing,

774
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 6: they become critical.

775
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

776
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 8: I saw a story on the interwebs that Brady and

777
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 8: Josh like rewrote their red zone.

778
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 7: I had heard that list. Yeah, super Bowl forty nine,

779
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 7: like two days before.

780
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was two plays.

781
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 12: But the one where Edelman's pointing at the sideline, Yeah,

782
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 12: when he caught the little, you know, jerk route return route,

783
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 12: that one, I think we had no and that that

784
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 12: was the play that they put in in the ballroom

785
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 12: the night before the game on Saturday night. They had

786
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 12: installed that play and they had ran it, and yeah,

787
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 12: that was really fascinating. I didn't know the second one,

788
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 12: the one to La fell slant route. I guess that

789
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 12: was the other play that they installed and they threw

790
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 12: a touchdown on.

791
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 6: All right, let's go to on the eight five five

792
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 6: pats five hundred the hotline. Let's go to Tom in Oakland. Hey, Tom, Hey,

793
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 6: what's up guys.

794
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 16: Sorry for a little bit of a subject change, but

795
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 16: I wondering what favorite things that you've eaten or done

796
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 16: in in San Francisco in a few days, or maybe

797
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 16: something you're.

798
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 15: Looking forward to.

799
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 6: Well, you know, we've been kind of working a lot,

800
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 6: so I haven't really had by the time to do

801
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 6: any sight seeing or any fun stuff like that. All

802
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 6: I did have a good meal last night at a

803
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 6: place called Indian Sizzler, so if you like Indian food,

804
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 6: that was really good. But that's Insanta Clara. But other

805
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 6: than that, like, we haven't really had a chance to

806
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 6: do anything.

807
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: Oh you can eat this.

808
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 8: It's been more of a nostalgia for me because we've

809
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 8: got to go in and out and we've gone back

810
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 8: to back days to Mel's Drive in, which is a

811
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 8: place I used to go to all the time out here.

812
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 8: So but I think tonight we have a little company party,

813
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 8: so I think there's gonna be some good food tonight.

814
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to.

815
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

816
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 9: The problem for us and we still run, you know,

817
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 9: and we said that we wouldn't do this, so if not,

818
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 9: please don't take this as complaining.

819
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: Is we're happy to do our jobs. We're in Santa Clara.

820
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 9: To get to San Francisco is taking over an hour

821
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 9: each way, so we're here to do the radio and

822
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 9: then we go back to the hotel. So the idea

823
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 9: of coming an hour back to go an hour back

824
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 9: home twice in the same day is a lot. So

825
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 9: we haven't really gotten a chance to get to any

826
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 9: of the you know, the nice restaurants. And I keep

827
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 9: getting people recommending, you know, various places. This you know,

828
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 9: this primary place, and this you know, this different bar

829
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 9: is supposed to be really good, and I'd love to

830
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 9: see them all. My guess is on Saturday we'll get

831
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 9: to get a chance to see a couple with these

832
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 9: parties that the Patriots are having.

833
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: But that's about it.

834
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, Tom, you're in Oakland, any do you

835
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 6: have any recommendations?

836
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, I know the Connecticut Yankees got brought

837
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 16: up a bunch. I've watched a fandful of past games there. Yeah,

838
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 16: he's our pub. Uh, some of the best Buffalo Wings.

839
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 16: I'd say this, okay, okay, it's right by right by

840
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 16: sees Our Stadium, which is where the Niners played way

841
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 16: back in the day. That's what that one's name for.

842
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 16: But and then the tourist the areas over there up

843
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 16: here thirty nine, like it's toursy but it's cool. You

844
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 16: can go see the seals and the shops and all

845
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 16: that kind of stuff. So yeah, plenty of fun stuff.

846
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 16: But uh yeah, I mean I went to the Pro

847
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 16: Bowl last night. Took me over an hour to get

848
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 16: over the bridge from Oakland, so wow, yeah, it's a

849
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 16: nightmare getting around.

850
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, Well thanks for calling.

851
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 14: It, Tom, appreciate it, guys him.

852
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 7: Tom and Oakland.

853
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 6: On the subject of they hate us because they jeal,

854
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 6: which I always love this subject disrespect. That's why people

855
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 6: keep walking through our set, John and South Carolina rights in. Uh,

856
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: he says, I live in South Carolina. I have Clemson

857
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 6: and Patriots stickers on my truck. I have to switch

858
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 6: the Patriots sticker because it will get written on ripped keyed,

859
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 6: et cetera. Nothing ever happens to the Clemson are bruin stuff.

860
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 6: People still hate us and are still sick of us

861
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 6: the most. This mostly happens that stores in Lows.

862
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 7: It isn't even.

863
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 6: People I've interacted with Lows. Life is different outside of

864
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 6: New England. Outside of New England, you keep your mouth

865
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 6: shut unless you're around friends. When it comes to the Pats,

866
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 6: unless you feel like getting into an argument with someone

867
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 6: who only watches college football but still wants to crap

868
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 6: on the Patriots. Sports radio isn't really an issue unless

869
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 6: you get an old head blaming the Patriots for ruining

870
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 6: Cam Newton.

871
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 8: We should ask him about it. He's right over there.

872
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 8: Oh god, do you think we could get him on?

873
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 8: That would be funny, just to try to convince him.

874
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: Why do you know how the current quarterback you feel

875
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 4: about that?

876
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 7: Dudes will hold his feet to the fire.

877
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 8: Did you ever find out what mac Jones's real meddle

878
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 8: name was?

879
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 7: Well, okay, let's go to Sean and Vancouver. What's up Sean?

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Speaker 15: Hey, you know, I'm disappointed, as I'm sure everyone is hearing,

881
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Speaker 15: the Craft, the best owner and history of sports is

882
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Speaker 15: not in the Hall of Fame. But I'm not surprised

883
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Speaker 15: because Avenue, I'm sure you agree the Pro Football Hall

884
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 15: of Fame has a bias against the Patriots, and I

885
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Speaker 15: wouldn't be surprised if Terry doesn't get in, and then

886
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Speaker 15: next year if they make bronk weights. So this is

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Speaker 15: my question. Let's say in twenty twenty eight, there's a

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Speaker 15: complete slips. It's a Patriots party, it's Brady, it's Bronk,

889
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Speaker 15: it's Belichick, it's Craft, it's been a Terry, it's even

890
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Speaker 15: Rodney Harrison. Would you all go for that induction ceremony?

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Speaker 17: I would.

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Speaker 9: The better question is what would Patriots Nation have to

893
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 9: bitch about out being hated by the leader? What would

894
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 9: they what would they fabricate that the mass induction Because

895
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 9: let me just say this for the record, if if

896
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Speaker 9: Vinitary and Gronkowski and Brady don't get in, then I'll say,

897
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 9: you know what, I was stubbornly wrong. This is clearly

898
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 9: a bias against the Patriots if those kinds of guys

899
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Speaker 9: don't get in the Hall of Fame. But if Tom

900
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 9: and Rob Gronkowski, Adam Minitarry is going to get in

901
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 9: the Hall of Fame, Tom Brady is going to get

902
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Speaker 9: I don't really care like what year, like, that's not

903
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Speaker 9: really all that.

904
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Speaker 1: Important to me.

905
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Speaker 9: But if they don't get in the Hall of Fame,

906
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 9: then I'll say, you guys were right. This is clearly

907
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 9: a bias. There's something special about.

908
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Speaker 18: Tom Braid is going to be a first ballot hall

909
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Speaker 18: when you're deserving, and he will be who on that list?

910
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Speaker 6: He will him nobody. I say the same thing for

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Speaker 6: Gronk like who on the list.

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Speaker 9: I would agree, and I think they'll both and I

913
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Speaker 9: think they'll both be first ballot Hall of Famers. But

914
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, if they don't get in the Hall

915
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 9: of Fame, then I'll say, you guys are right.

916
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 7: I would hope.

917
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 6: So it just might be Elsie Greenwood's all right, good

918
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 6: time for break, So let's take one.

919
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Speaker 7: When we come back. Maybe we'll have some guests.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: If somebody's late, all right, we'll be right back.

922
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Speaker 2: Come on, Switch, Come on, come on, switch Switch.

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Speaker 19: Let there be ideas too big to stay, ideas and

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Speaker 19: the software to make them sore.

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Speaker 20: Duncan's five dollar meal deal a deal for everyone.

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Speaker 11: The best to make you get is to let lapse.

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Speaker 3: We had a crime stop or tip come in.

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Speaker 11: We walked into a real one tonight.

941
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Speaker 2: How much you sit down over twenty milt?

942
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Speaker 11: Any ideas we might want?

943
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Speaker 3: This money got the cartel, dirty cops.

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to start? It can't be so

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Speaker 2: much easier. We just stole this money, and I swear

946
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Speaker 2: to God.

947
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Speaker 25: As come on, switch come on, come on, come on, switch.

948
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Speaker 11: Switch.

949
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Speaker 19: Let there be ideas too big to stay ideas and

950
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 19: the software to make them sore.

951
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Speaker 20: Let there be anything Autodesk.

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Speaker 7: This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 7: So I didn't here to have.

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Speaker 8: Our first guest to the day, and it's a good one,

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Speaker 8: one of my favorites. If you got to watch NFL

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Speaker 8: live and me come on, it's mina chimes from ESPN Mida.

959
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Speaker 7: So great to see you. Thank you for stopping by.

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Speaker 7: Now is it true?

961
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Speaker 8: I gotta start this off because we heard rumors when

962
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Speaker 8: you were in Jillette stadium. They were like one of

963
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Speaker 8: our camera guys was like, you know, Minachimes really like

964
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Speaker 8: seven stuff.

965
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Speaker 4: She's yeah, you gotta hear from you now, this guy,

966
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Speaker 4: they're gonna embarrass me.

967
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Speaker 26: Yeah, I'm gonna embarrass you.

968
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Speaker 27: Like one of the best, one of the best young

969
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Speaker 27: NFL writers were today. I've hit you before. Do you

970
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Speaker 27: do a great job covering the team? I don't know

971
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Speaker 27: getting I'm now at the age where I can call

972
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Speaker 27: people young, right, Yeah, I was text I told you

973
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Speaker 27: a text of my friend Bill Simmons about how good

974
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Speaker 27: you are.

975
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Speaker 26: And I did a good job to do covering the team.

976
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Speaker 26: And it's been a fun season to read along.

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Speaker 7: It has been a fun season.

978
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Speaker 4: I know you're also a Seahawks fan.

979
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean this is pretty cool for you.

980
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: I mean, we come in peace. It's okay now.

981
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Speaker 8: And I'm a kind of a closet Seahawks fancy, like

982
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Speaker 8: I was Steve Large in Jersey when I was a kid,

983
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 8: and everyone's making fun of me all week that I

984
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 8: have like split alliances, but I'm really.

985
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Speaker 7: A Patriots guy.

986
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Speaker 8: But what's your biggest takeaway from this game right now?

987
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Speaker 8: Is as we get ready to get into this thing, uh, Okay, So.

988
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Speaker 27: The thesis I've kind of been presenting to people this week,

989
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 27: because obviously I did my show digging into the matchups

990
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Speaker 27: and all the various exos and whatnot, is I have

991
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Speaker 27: my feeling is that I think the Patriots offense is

992
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 27: better than what we've seen, and the defense is a

993
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 27: little bit worse than what we've seen, and I think

994
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 27: people are overrating the defense a little bit underrating the offense.

995
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Speaker 26: How do you guys feel about that?

996
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Speaker 4: I think that's fair.

997
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Speaker 1: I can definitely see that.

998
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the one thing that Patriots fans are

999
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 12: holding out hope for is that they've played some bad

1000
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 12: weather games here in the playoffs, especially that fourth quarter

1001
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 12: in Denver was pretty tough for both teams. So some

1002
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 12: better weather in this climate, maybe Drake may plays a

1003
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Speaker 12: little bit more like he did in the regular season

1004
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Speaker 12: compared to the playoffs, but I do I'm fascinated to

1005
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Speaker 12: see how he looks against another great defense.

1006
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Speaker 10: You know.

1007
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Speaker 12: That's another big part of this is I wanted to

1008
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Speaker 12: ask you about your MVP vote here in the second,

1009
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Speaker 12: but the biggest thing that we heard all year was

1010
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Speaker 12: him against you know, weaker defenses all season long, and

1011
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Speaker 12: then they get into the playoffs and it's the Texans,

1012
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Speaker 12: is the Broncos.

1013
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 4: Now it's Seattle. Yeah, we're kind of finding out a

1014
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 4: little bit.

1015
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Speaker 12: About that too. So I agree with your thesis. I

1016
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Speaker 12: just wonder where that falls in the middle.

1017
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Speaker 27: I know, right, Yeah, it's the expectation is not that

1018
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 27: he's gonna light Seattle up. I just think they're too difficult,

1019
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 27: but more so that you know, I think, like, like

1020
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 27: you said, he's plays really difficult defenses. I think the

1021
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 27: weather was a big deal, and I think, you know,

1022
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 27: with a couple of weeks to prepare, and I think

1023
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 27: there's things that he can do, strengths that he can

1024
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Speaker 27: play into that'll make it look better than it has

1025
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Speaker 27: thus far.

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Speaker 9: Can I ask you, you know, one of the questions

1027
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 9: we're getting a lot from people. You look at Seattle's offense,

1028
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 9: and it's obviously JSN centric.

1029
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and nineteen catches.

1030
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Speaker 9: The next guy is down I don't know, seventy five

1031
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 9: or so, and everybody's like, well, if you just take

1032
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Speaker 9: JSN out of the game, you know, like you can

1033
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 9: just I know, obviously all the teams that Seattle has

1034
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 9: played have gone in to say, you know this is

1035
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 9: what we're going to do. You follow Seattle as closely

1036
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 9: as anyone, right, So why are they so successful being

1037
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 9: able to still.

1038
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Speaker 26: Have him be the Yeah there there's a litany of

1039
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 26: reasons for that, right.

1040
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Speaker 27: It'd be so nice if they could just say, hey, Gonzo,

1041
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 27: follow him right, and then suddenly you're not left with

1042
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 27: numbers disadvantages everywhere because Seattle's so good at taking advantage

1043
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 27: of jsn's gravity. I'm sure you guys now have watched

1044
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 27: a lot of hate but inevitably, at some point in

1045
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 27: the game one of their miscellaneous tight ends is gonna

1046
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 27: be white ass open, because Jay said, you know, and

1047
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 27: a lot of it is. Usually they take most their

1048
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 27: shots off with play action, so that contributes to do

1049
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 27: as well. You're getting not just matchup advantages from a

1050
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Speaker 27: personnel standpoint, although I think it's very interesting to see

1051
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 27: how New England plays that, but also just you get

1052
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 27: one on ones that way downfield. They run a lot

1053
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 27: of two man concepts with him, and he'll pull half

1054
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 27: the defense and someone is open. You have seen defenses

1055
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Speaker 27: pay hit him a lot of attention. Obviously, he faces

1056
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 27: a lot of cloud and I think Kink Kubiak has

1057
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 27: done a really good job of moving him around to

1058
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Speaker 27: avoid that. That's something I suspect we'll see a decent

1059
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 27: amount in this game. He'll put him in the backfield,

1060
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Speaker 27: he'll put him in the slot. That's something I'll be

1061
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 27: interesting seeing how much he does that. So for New England,

1062
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Speaker 27: I think it's it's challenging, but it's also something you

1063
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 27: have to constantly adjust to within the game. You can't

1064
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 27: go in saying cool, he's gonna split out wide and

1065
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 27: we're gonna, you know, do one double or whatever, because

1066
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 27: they're gonna move him around.

1067
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Speaker 26: You're gonna have to constantly reevaluate.

1068
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Speaker 4: Before you gotta go. You're MVP vote.

1069
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 12: You voted for Drake May. You're Drake May MVP voter.

1070
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 12: Just what what kind of put it over the top

1071
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 12: for you to vote for him over Stafford?

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Speaker 28: Yeah?

1073
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 16: I know.

1074
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Speaker 27: So that is Thursday. I'm on first take with Dan.

1075
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 27: So Pats fans, please support me. I need your I

1076
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 27: need your help, especially given the postseason and I keeping

1077
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 27: like it's a regular season.

1078
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Speaker 4: I actually say, I think you said that in your podcast.

1079
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Speaker 27: I actually think what we're talking about too is like

1080
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 27: kind of confusing the conversation because I keep hearing like

1081
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 27: the pat stuff an elite defense and about and like

1082
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 27: that's literally, did you guys watch any games this year?

1083
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 27: This is not what it looked like during the regular season.

1084
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 27: Has something I had to do with injuries, you know,

1085
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 27: But for me, it was like two things. So I

1086
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 27: look at dominance and then I look at value. So

1087
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 27: from a dominance perspective, I thought, statistically it was not close.

1088
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Speaker 27: Drake beat him in just about Stafford right in basically

1089
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 27: every metric possible, both the sort of more basic ones

1090
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 27: but also the advanced ones. You know, the opponent gets

1091
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 27: brought up a lot. My colleague Bill Bardenwall did an

1092
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Speaker 27: excellent piece. I think this was kind of first letting

1093
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 27: people understand that, yes, the Patriots faced a weaker slate

1094
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 27: of opponents, but it was really offenses more than defenses.

1095
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 27: And if you actually divide it into defenses, it wasn't

1096
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 27: that different from what Matthew Stafford faced to me. And

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Speaker 27: this is where maybe some passcows would be angry. That

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00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 27: was actually more of a point against Mike Rabel winning

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Speaker 27: Coach of the Year than it was against May's MVP.

1100
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Speaker 27: So there's statistically he beats him in every way. Okay,

1101
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 27: then there's the value thing, and I think this is

1102
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 27: what put it over the top for me. Matthew Stafford

1103
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 27: had the best run game in football by a pretty

1104
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 27: significant margin this year and a top five defense. I know,

1105
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 27: we just saw them in the playoffs, I tell you.

1106
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 27: During the right the regular season, the Rams were like

1107
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 27: top five and DVOA New England run game and defense

1108
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 27: bottom ten in both regards. So if I'm looking at

1109
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 27: the team and I'm saying who did more, who carried

1110
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 27: more on their shoulders? Who is more responsible for By

1111
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 27: the way, a team that literally got you know that

1112
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 27: won their division unlike the other one, it's the young quarterback.

1113
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 26: So I didn't think it was particularly.

1114
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 8: Hard to be honest, Well, you don't need to convince us.

1115
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 9: I love the last part of that argument. Yeah more

1116
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 9: with less was responsible for more and you know, yeah,

1117
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 9: I mean that's what and.

1118
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 27: Even bring up the oh yeah, yeah, my offensive player

1119
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 27: of the year.

1120
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Speaker 12: Right, so you have a guy that's offensive Player of

1121
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 12: the year, better offensive line, probably a little bit in

1122
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 12: with in the Rams, better run game. That's what we've

1123
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 12: been saying is if there's one guy that's elevated the

1124
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 12: talent more, Yeah.

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Speaker 26: Probably it sounds like you listen to the podcast.

1126
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 27: Actually, so Jabs Who's Great brought up like, well, you know,

1127
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 27: the run game of the Rams probably benefits And then

1128
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 27: when I looked it up as we were taping, I

1129
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 27: was like, actually the Rams have faced more fewer light

1130
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 27: boxes in the Patriots.

1131
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 26: Yeah, I'm you're putting that one in my post.

1132
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 12: Face over the top yea of Drake's deep ball, they

1133
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 12: don't and him and Kaishaw Boody Booty has been seeing

1134
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 12: cloud all playoffs.

1135
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: They don't want him to go over the top.

1136
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 27: And I think Booty and Digs are really underrated, Like

1137
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 27: our catch stats love them, and ngs's catch stats love them.

1138
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 27: I know you get into advanced numbers. You've seen all this,

1139
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 27: so I don't want to say like Drake's out there

1140
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 27: playing with scrubs. I think people underrated the New England

1141
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 27: pass catchers as well. I love the Dig signings, but

1142
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 27: I didn't think Kaishan Boody would become what he's become.

1143
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 26: But you know they're not pookinakup. Let's be serious so.

1144
00:52:59,280 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 4: Much taking the time.

1145
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 8: You're crazy busy right now, so keep up the great work.

1146
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 8: We appreciate you and we'll see you maybe after the

1147
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 8: super Bowl.

1148
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: So fun.

1149
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 26: I can't wait to read your recap.

1150
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

1151
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: Wow, we're going to have to hose him down many times.

1152
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

1153
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

1154
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 7: All right, Well so you.

1155
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: Got all your all your advanced stats.

1156
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: There was the spirits.

1157
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 7: That's what I told you, you know.

1158
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll bring bring Dan over here.

1159
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 7: We loved it. We loved it.

1160
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 9: But but Evan has a little thing that goes back

1161
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 9: and forth. I'm frustrated with the Lasky. I love today.

1162
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 9: It's like it goes back and forth.

1163
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Speaker 3: I love it.

1164
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Speaker 8: Great, great star, Thanks Mina. Appreciate it.

1165
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, that's uh there you go embarrass a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

1166
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 7: we need to get that out there.

1167
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 9: And my good job getting us back in by the way,

1168
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 9: that's good job subbing it on the flo.

1169
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 7: Appreciate it, Freddie Fields.

1170
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 12: Only only I knew this the embarrassment was going to

1171
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 12: be coming a little bit, so I was prepared.

1172
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 7: You do good work.

1173
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 8: You gets some props from from one of the national

1174
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 8: uh you know, I mean, she's I love NFL Live.

1175
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 7: It's such a great a right, great, it was great.

1176
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: He was a little reds a great time.

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Speaker 8: No, she's great. I mean, honestly, I I don't know

1178
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 8: what point over the last few years that I really

1179
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 8: just started watching NFL Live, But I just I think

1180
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 8: they do such a great job, you know, good for

1181
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 8: some they got good chemistry. It's just perfect afternoon kind

1182
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 8: of way to wrap up the day.

1183
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: What are they talk about?

1184
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 7: Its football?

1185
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen that.

1186
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 12: I think that, you know, the show that gets the NBA,

1187
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 12: I think tends to dominate, like the you know inside

1188
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 12: the NBA is always like revered as like the best

1189
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 12: studio show that they have these days. And they've done

1190
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 12: a really good job I think with NFL Live of

1191
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 12: Mina or Lobsky getting some like actual analysis that's not

1192
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 12: just like Steven A yelling at a screen, you know,

1193
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 12: and we actually have some real ball knowers that are

1194
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 12: actually breaking down, you know, whether it's more analytical like

1195
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 12: Mina or the football side, you know, like or Lobsky

1196
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 12: where he he's a former player, but either one of

1197
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 12: them or you know, know a ton of footballs.

1198
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 6: And it's not easy doing what she's doing because she's

1199
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Speaker 6: a woman talking about football, and I think, you know,

1200
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Speaker 6: it's hard for them to kind of break through and

1201
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 6: be you know, respected for sure. I'm not saying that

1202
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 6: they're held to a different standard, but some people don't

1203
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 6: hear it when a woman is saying it as opposed

1204
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 6: to a man. And I think she's done a real

1205
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 6: good job of establhing herself as somebody who puts in

1206
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 6: the work, understands the subject matter and is able to

1207
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 6: convey it really well and.

1208
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 8: Digs her heels in where people come at her and

1209
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 8: try to say, I mean she does the work, and

1210
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 8: I mean Evan can attest.

1211
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 12: That she when she presents like when she presents numbers,

1212
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 12: I don't feel like I'm like super confused by it.

1213
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 12: And that's something that I think I personally probably struggle

1214
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 12: with is I say a lot of epas and dvoas

1215
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 12: and people are like, what is he talking about?

1216
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 4: And she does such a good job of being concise

1217
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 4: about it.

1218
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 6: Good stuff. So Mina Kimes, thank you, uh. First of

1219
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 6: our guests today among many. So they'll be coming in.

1220
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 6: So while we're waiting for our next guest, Evans here,

1221
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 6: Matt and Devin UK has a question for him. I'm

1222
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 6: looking to put some money on a few different bets

1223
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 6: for the Super Bowl. I need to know how are

1224
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 6: we going to attack the Seahawks and which players are

1225
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 6: going to have big games rushing and receiving. Well, I

1226
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 6: mean that's kind of a brilliant broad Also, and.

1227
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 29: You want to make money, tell me what's going to happen, right, Also,

1228
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 29: any under the radar players who could have a good

1229
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 29: game against us, like Bobo Shaheed, Arroyo Cup, et cetera,

1230
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 29: I mean, any of them.

1231
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 9: I think Cooper Cup is a guy sort of you know,

1232
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 9: I've been reading some some stats on him. He had

1233
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 9: a pretty modest regular season, but he seems like one

1234
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 9: of those guys that that Darnold is relying on in

1235
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 9: the playoffs.

1236
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: I think his numbers are.

1237
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 9: You know, I think he was catching about three passes

1238
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 9: a game, and he's almost up to like five in

1239
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 9: the playoffs, like four and a half catches, So he's

1240
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 9: gone to him more often postseason. He's a guy with

1241
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 9: postseason experience. MVP, you need a second guy. Obviously, shaheeds

1242
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 9: more of to me, like the one play, the one

1243
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 9: trick pony kind of guy.

1244
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 8: It's a good point Cooper Cup could be the guy

1245
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 8: I keep an eye if I was Seattle, I feel

1246
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 8: really good about having him as my second guy, especially

1247
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 8: as you pointed out, Paul, the experience, and you know,

1248
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 8: I would say Barner too.

1249
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 7: They're tight end.

1250
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 8: It's just I mean, I know the Patriots that that

1251
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 8: tight end thing hasn't quite been the same glaring problem

1252
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 8: that we kind of talked about a lot during the season.

1253
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 8: But I just think he's timely.

1254
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 7: He's a big player.

1255
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 8: Patriots linebackers a little bit smaller, safety's a little bit smaller, and.

1256
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 7: He's a big dude who can bux guys out.

1257
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 8: So you know, it's not really dynamic, but I still

1258
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 8: think he's one of those third and four he's I like, put.

1259
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 12: The boots in the play actions to Barner's just there's

1260
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 12: so much space underneath the defense because they're running the

1261
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 12: vertical routes off of those extended dropbacks, you know, longer dropbacks,

1262
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 12: and so guys are running down the field and then

1263
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 12: just naturally, the zone just gets stretched out and then

1264
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 12: Barner's just kind of wide open underneath the zone.

1265
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 9: I like the way she explained that just what Jasn does,

1266
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 9: it's so much more than just one hundred and nineteen catches.

1267
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 12: So yeah, yeah, and I think that you know your

1268
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 12: point about Cup, Paul is, to me, that's one of

1269
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 12: the biggest matchups in the game is it's probably gonna

1270
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 12: be two you know, kind of crafty vets in Carlton

1271
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 12: Davis and Cooper Cup, and they're gonna be one on

1272
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 12: one for a lot of this game because all the

1273
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 12: extra attention is gonna have to go to JSN. So

1274
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 12: you know, Carlon Davi is gonna have to win that matchup.

1275
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 12: You know, whoever wins that matchup, I think is gonna

1276
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 12: be a big key in the game.

1277
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 6: Jordan Kentucky wants to know, and I don't know the

1278
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 6: answer to this. Did you guys see what Joe Milton

1279
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 6: had to say in the Chris Sims Show. I didn't

1280
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 6: hear about it.

1281
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 4: No, I heard.

1282
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 12: I saw some like Twitter clips of it, but I

1283
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 12: did not. I don't want to, you know, misquote him

1284
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 12: or anything. I didn't see exactly what he said, but

1285
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 12: it looked like maybe he said something about he felt

1286
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 12: that he was like disrespected or something like that.

1287
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: Kelly writes in Holy Crap, mena Kime, She's the best.

1288
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 6: Love her match to Eclaires on The Great British Bakeoff.

1289
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 8: Okay, so she's on the Bakeoff now too, right, Like

1290
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 8: that's doing I think she was just recently on it. Yeah,

1291
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 8: they did, like an American version of The of the Yeah. Okay,

1292
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 8: I bet she's good at it. She seems like she's

1293
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 8: probably good at everything she does.

1294
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 6: Kendall's in North Carolina on the hotline. What's up, Kendall, Kendall.

1295
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 6: Kendall's gone, go on, He's gone. All right, Let's see

1296
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 6: who's Rick and Riverside, Rhode Island. RKK should be in

1297
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame based solely on the courage he

1298
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 6: showed in changing course after the Year of Mayo. Patriot

1299
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 6: Nation loves Mail the player, but it didn't work out

1300
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 6: as a coach. Maybe it was divine intervention that Rabel

1301
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 6: didn't get hired in twenty twenty four, making him available

1302
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 6: for RKK to make the change. Rabel has completely reshaped

1303
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 6: his team. His love of his players while maintaining the

1304
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 6: discipline needed to win in the NFL is awesome.

1305
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 4: We have a young foundation to build on in the

1306
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 4: future is bright.

1307
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 6: I predict the Patriots will play their best game of

1308
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 6: the season and when thirty one seventeen, I believe Josh

1309
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 6: will have a game plan to take advantage of Drake's

1310
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Speaker 6: running ability, and the defense will be hungry.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 8: I It's just a thing that's kind of occurred to

1313
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 8: me here that I've never really seen before, is this

1314
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 8: team doesn't really seem like they want the season to

1315
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 8: end and that they want to all go their separate ways.

1316
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 8: Like it seems like they truly enjoy playing together, being together,

1317
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 8: and being part of this team. Saw another quote from

1318
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 8: Jared Wilson that echoed something that Will Campbell's said of

1319
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 8: just like everyone told me it's going to be different

1320
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 8: in the NFL, how hard it's going to be, But

1321
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 8: I don't this is If this is how it is,

1322
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 8: I love it. I want I don't want to play

1323
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 8: anywhere else. So I think they've just established that culture

1324
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 8: in an outstanding way. And I think these guys here

1325
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 8: they they want to keep playing.

1326
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Speaker 7: All right. Joining us now is Howard Ballzer and uh,

1327
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 7: he'll get set up here. Howard.

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Speaker 17: How you doing, Fred kersh I've read nice to see.

1329
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 7: You, nice seeing you.

1330
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: I know we've emailed oh yes, yes.

1331
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 17: Yes man him many times.

1332
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 4: Man.

1333
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 17: I stopped getting that, said contributor. Yeah, I debated at

1334
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 17: the time when I found out that, of course it

1335
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 17: was going away, I debated, and when I got my

1336
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 17: last check with Robert's signature on it, not to cash it,

1337
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 17: and just kind of.

1338
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Speaker 7: Like, right, okay, all right, so yeah, so what Howard?

1339
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 6: You know, when Paul and I first started with the Patriots,

1340
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 6: I was back in ninety five.

1341
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 7: I started the.

1342
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 6: Newspaper, Patriots Football Weekly, and we had many columnsts. Howard,

1343
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 6: Howard Balls is one of them, Vic Carucci, Paul Domowitch,

1344
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 6: Gordon Forbes.

1345
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 7: Uh but Yanks Don Banks. But Howard's one of our alumni.

1346
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 7: So there we go. Welcome to the show. This is

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01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 7: what we do. Now, we's all video now.

1348
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Speaker 17: I say exactly, Oh yeah, yeah, that's not the way

1349
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 17: it's gone everywhere.

1350
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 7: Right, yeah.

1351
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 6: So tell our our audience a ten, tend to be younger.

1352
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 6: Tell them how long you've been covering the NFL.

1353
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 17: Well, this is my forty fifth game, forty fifty. Yes,

1354
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 17: the game will conclude my fiftieth season covering the NFL.

1355
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 17: And of course maybe this week the most more controversial

1356
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 17: than normal years, is the twenty third time that I've

1357
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 17: been involved in the election for the Pro Football Hall

1358
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 17: of Fame.

1359
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 7: So we want to get right into let's get right.

1360
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 17: Why would that be?

1361
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1362
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 6: I mean, as you probably know, Patriot's Nation is up

1363
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 6: in arms, not just because of Bill Belichick, but also

1364
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 6: because of Robert Kraft. And you know, tell us why

1365
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 6: somebody like Bill Belichick wouldn't get in on the first ballot.

1366
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 17: There's a lot of nuance here. And I could talk

1367
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 17: about this for a long time. I'll try to be

1368
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 17: as succinct as possible. But the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

1369
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 17: and I don't want to sound like I'm blaming it

1370
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 17: all on them, because all the selectors make their individual decisions,

1371
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 17: but the Pro Football Hall of Fame put us in

1372
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 17: a very difficult position beginning with last year. And let

1373
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 17: me go back eleven years to what I'm going to

1374
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 17: lay out here, because I think it's very important and

1375
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 17: a lot of people don't know. I'm a detailed guy.

1376
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 17: Anyone who's following me knows, Yay, I have ideas, opinions,

1377
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 17: but I'm also very detailed with numbers and processes and

1378
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 17: all those things. Eleven years ago, the Hall of Fame

1379
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 17: decided to create a contributor committee separate from the regular

1380
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 17: election because up until that point, and that's a lot

1381
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 17: of years, over fifty years of the Pro Football Hall

1382
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 17: of Fame, contributors, coaches, senior players were considered within the

1383
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 17: along with the modern day guys. Well, it got to

1384
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 17: the point where contributors it was hard. It was hard

1385
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 17: to get especially contributors and coaches. It was hard to

1386
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 17: get them in right because you're competing against modern day players.

1387
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 17: So in twenty fifteen they could created the contributor category

1388
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 17: and that led to the first one, Bill Pollian, Ron Wolfe,

1389
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 17: Gil Brandt, Bobby Bethard, Pat Bolan, Jerry Jones. It led

1390
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 17: to all these contributors getting in right. Coaches were still

1391
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 17: considered with the modern day guys. In twenty twenty one,

1392
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 17: the year after the centennial class, they removed the coaches

1393
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 17: for the modern day guys and created a coach subcommittee

1394
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 17: where a coach would be put forward. In twenty twenty two,

1395
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 17: the decision was made, you know, we've gotten a lot

1396
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 17: of contributors in the list of nominees and all that

1397
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 17: quite honestly wasn't as strong, and so they decided to

1398
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 17: combine the coach and the contributor committee into one and

1399
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 17: then there would only be one of either of them

1400
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 17: that would be advanced as a finalist. Twenty twenty three

1401
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 17: was the sea change when there was a lot of

1402
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 17: talk if people out there, if any of you guys,

1403
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 17: if you ever saw the list of guys that are

1404
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 17: in the seniors what we call the abyss, some have

1405
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 17: called the dark hole, if you look at the guys

1406
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 17: that are in there, you say home on I would say,

1407
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 17: any normal fan would say, Oh, that guy's not in.

1408
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 7: That guy's not in.

1409
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 17: That guy's not in. So what they decided to do

1410
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 17: to create more seniors getting in was to have three finalists. Now,

1411
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 17: the key is when we voted on the seniors, when

1412
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 17: we voted on the coach or the contributor or the

1413
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 17: combined one, we voted yes or no on each individual guy.

1414
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 17: So there's fifty voters, that means that one of those

1415
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 17: have to get forty. Whoever gets forty votes gets elected.

1416
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 17: So the first year, the first two years of the Seniors,

1417
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 17: three five of the six seniors got in. One of

1418
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 17: the receiver from the Raiders, ar Powell did not get

1419
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 17: the eighty percent the forty votes, so he didn't get elected,

1420
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 17: but five of the six did. Last year, all of

1421
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 17: a sudden, out of nowhere, they changed the whole voting

1422
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 17: process for the modern day guys and the group of five,

1423
01:05:54,560 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 17: if you will to instead of voting individually, we would

1424
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 17: say in this in this group, which you guys are

1425
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 17: most concerned with, we voted for only three of the five.

1426
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 17: So then they put us in a position to make

1427
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 17: decisions with guys they had consciously said shouldn't compete against

1428
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 17: each other, to now be competing against each other, right,

1429
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 17: and so a lot of people have said in the

1430
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 17: last week, well it's not right. You know, why should

1431
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 17: selectors quote prioritize seniors players? Is Vaje. Gregorian from Kansas City,

1432
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 17: wrote that he did well. The Hall of Fame prioritized

1433
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,959
Speaker 17: seniors guys by having three of them and then making

1434
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 17: a decision on the Contributors committee to combine it at

1435
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 17: one point with the coaches because they didn't think there

1436
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 17: was enough of them that were worthy. Well, now they

1437
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 17: forced us to make a decision. And the numbers telling

1438
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 17: you now, what they said was there's a minimum of

1439
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 17: one and a maximum of three. And they said, well,

1440
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 17: we were told by people that we would at least

1441
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 17: get two from one group and four from the other. Well,

1442
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 17: I don't know if that person has any knowledge of

1443
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 17: math or basic arithmetic. But let's just say, for argument's sake,

1444
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 17: that this year Bill Belichick and Robert Craft got forty votes. Right,

1445
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 17: maybe they would have gone if it was you know,

1446
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 17: I think they'd get more if it was an upper

1447
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 17: down thing. I think they'd both be in if it

1448
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 17: was up or down. Right, But let's say in this

1449
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 17: process they each got forty, just for argument's sake, Well,

1450
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 17: that only leaves seventy votes for the other for the

1451
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 17: seniors players, So what are the chances of winning one

1452
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 17: of them when they're all very deserving of getting forty

1453
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 17: Because votes get split, And so I believe in this

1454
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 17: case the votes between Bill Belichick and Robert Craft got

1455
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 17: split because I wouldn't make the argument. I mean, heck,

1456
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 17: he's been eligible for quite a while and this is

1457
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 17: the first time he's ever been a finalist. How does

1458
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 17: that happen? And I think you can make the case

1459
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 17: that he is as deserving as Bill, or maybe even

1460
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 17: more deserving, for everything he's done, not only with the

1461
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 17: Patriots getting to a super Bowl before Bell Belichick was

1462
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 17: the coach. Now getting to what we didn't know at

1463
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 17: the time we voted, they were gonna get there this year,

1464
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 17: but we knew they'd want a playoff when we voted,

1465
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 17: not to mention all the things he's done for the league.

1466
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 17: So point is, I'm absolutely sure that I'm not saying that.

1467
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 17: And nobody voted for both of them, but anyone who

1468
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 17: voted for one or the other, I think there was

1469
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 17: a conscious decision. I'm going to vote for one or

1470
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 17: the other and vote for two of the three players,

1471
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 17: and so that and so I know there's all the debates,

1472
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 17: but Bill Belichick, he did all this first time eligible.

1473
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 17: You get, you get to be a Seniors finalist, and

1474
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 17: you don't get elected. Guess what, Yeah, you're probably not

1475
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 17: coming back. And if you come back into the room

1476
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 17: to be discussed, it might be five or ten years

1477
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 17: down the road. And so I'm not saying that's right

1478
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 17: or wrong, but that's the way some people feel about it,

1479
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 17: and prioritizing players when the Hall of Fame prioritize.

1480
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 6: But to me, what seems to be the root problem

1481
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 6: here is this numbers thing. It's like we have to

1482
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 6: have three or we can't have more than five. It's like,

1483
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 6: why why can't you have more than five? Why can't

1484
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 6: you have less than three. Why can't one year no.

1485
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 13: One is out, only one is worthy, Like, I don't

1486
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 13: understand why they put these quotas, and that seems to

1487
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 13: be the problem that puts you guys into a bind where, well,

1488
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 13: you know, we're only gonna be allowed to have three

1489
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 13: from this category in there where if there's five people

1490
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 13: that are slammed dunks, five people should get in.

1491
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 17: And I'm with you, and I believe that if this,

1492
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 17: if this was done as it had been done, yes

1493
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 17: or now yes or no on all five people. I

1494
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 17: believe that maybe all five get in. Maybe only two

1495
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 17: of the players plus craft in Belichick, maybe only four,

1496
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 17: But it certainly would be because I believe what we're

1497
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 17: gonna see tomorrow night. I believe there's only gonna be

1498
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 17: one player that gets in. And I'll tell you something

1499
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 17: else that's weird with the process. They talk about the

1500
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 17: sanctity of the eighty percent. Right, Well, here, guess what

1501
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 17: if no one gets forty percent or forty votes from

1502
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 17: that group of five, guess what they're taking the one

1503
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 17: person who got the most votes.

1504
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 7: Oh my god.

1505
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 17: And in the modern day, guys, same thing, they say

1506
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 17: there has to be a minimum three if two only

1507
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 17: get forty votes, then they're taking the next guy with

1508
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 17: who had the most votes.

1509
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 7: So think of that.

1510
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 17: Let's say somebody gets in and they don't announce it.

1511
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 17: They don't anounce it. Let's say somebody gets in and

1512
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 17: nobody talks about this stuff. Let's say somebody gets in

1513
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 17: one year, any year, and has thirty seven votes or

1514
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 17: thirty eight. Right then the next year they get enough

1515
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 17: guys with forty and someone has thirty seven or thirty

1516
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 17: eight or thirty nine. They don't get in, even though

1517
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 17: they had more than someone else who got into the

1518
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 17: previous year. Defies logic, It defies anything. And I'll say

1519
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 17: one other point about your general point. And I was

1520
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 17: on an interview this morning and someone was saying the

1521
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 17: Dion argument, Well, it should be only the elite of

1522
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 17: the elite, right, Well then they and I said, then

1523
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 17: you get guys who aren't Barry Sanders or Emmitt Smith

1524
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 17: or Jerry Wright, whatever it might be, and so those

1525
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 17: shouldn't be Hall of famers. I said, well, the bottom

1526
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 17: line is from the inception of the Hall of Fame,

1527
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 17: they mandated minimums. Once you mandate minimums, you're going to

1528
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 17: have guys other than the elite. And then once you

1529
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 17: open the door to that, then it becomes well, I

1530
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 17: don't know about aren't monk, Oh, what about Andre Reid?

1531
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 17: What about you know, I'm only talking about one position.

1532
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 17: And so they get compared to look at other guys

1533
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 17: who have gotten in, and you say, well, they're deserving

1534
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 17: as those guys. And so that's the way it is.

1535
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 17: I don't know that the labor get to a thing

1536
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 17: where you said, I'll just have more and more and more.

1537
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 17: I actually presented a an idea a few years ago

1538
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 17: because the one thing that bothers me, especially as being

1539
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 17: quote an old guy, is recency bias. Of the fifteen

1540
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 17: finalists this year, nine were first or second year eligibles,

1541
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 17: and those are those are people that the committee that

1542
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 17: has gotten younger just saw in the twenty twenty season, right,

1543
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 17: Willie Anderson, Tory Holt. Tory Holt's been eligible for twelve years,

1544
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 17: you know who, A lot of people to commit. He

1545
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 17: never even saw him play, right, and so but now

1546
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 17: it's it's trending even more. I don't know what's gonna

1547
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 17: happen tomorrow night, but I would suspect that there's gonna

1548
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 17: be you know, first first time eligibles and the second

1549
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 17: time eligibles. You know, last year Adam Vineccieri didn't get

1550
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 17: in as the first time eligible. I think he, you know,

1551
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 17: he very well could this year. So I think that,

1552
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 17: you know, hurts it because the numbers tell you.

1553
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 7: I know that.

1554
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 17: When you have even even the old way, it was hard.

1555
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 17: And I'll get to what my idea was in a second.

1556
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 17: Even the old way, if you have five finalists, they

1557
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 17: all get in. Now you have ten guys coming back, right,

1558
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 17: but then you have first time eligibles coming into it,

1559
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 17: who are at least in the final fifteen. Well, that

1560
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 17: keeps some other people that can't even get in the

1561
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 17: room to be discussed. It's hard to get in that room.

1562
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 17: And then all of a sudden they're not in the

1563
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 17: final fifteen for a few years, and then they're kind

1564
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 17: of forgotten about. Then all of a sudden they come back,

1565
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 17: like an Eric Allen last year, I think it was

1566
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 17: in his eighteenth year of eligibility, and he gets elected

1567
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 17: because of thinking, oh, we don't want him going into

1568
01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 17: the senior's abyss. And so those are some of the

1569
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 17: little things that happened. So my idea was, and I

1570
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 17: was told by someone in the Hall of Fame, we

1571
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 17: don't care if we have a big class, right, So

1572
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 17: I said, well, why don't you have a thing where

1573
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 17: with a maximum two if one or two first time

1574
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 17: eligibles get elected and another one or two guys that

1575
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 17: had the next most votes and have a bigger class,

1576
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 17: but don't make it harder for some of those other

1577
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 17: guys to get in, because the first time eligibles, you know,

1578
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 17: and end up getting in a lot of the times

1579
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 17: there Now, last year there weren't one any of those,

1580
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 17: maybe because of the process, but in previous years there's

1581
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 17: times when there's been two or three first time eligibles

1582
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 17: come in, and that hurts other guys who have been

1583
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 17: waiting for quite a long time.

1584
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 7: So anyway, it's it's to me, it's they're over complicating it.

1585
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 30: It's more changes they're going to be yeah, probably yeah,

1586
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 30: And they're probably especially with that with this the way,

1587
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 30: the way, this WI all the way all you know,

1588
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 30: all this happened, and I didn't talk that much about

1589
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 30: it in the last week because I didn't think it

1590
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 30: should be talked about because we didn't know Robert Kraft's

1591
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 30: fate and I don't there's in my mind, there's no

1592
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 30: question that those two guys being in in the same.

1593
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 17: Year as the finalists ended up hurting each other.

1594
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 12: And and I want to ask you a question because

1595
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 12: I think for a lot of Patriots fans they feel

1596
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 12: like there's a bias towards the Patriots that's growing. You know,

1597
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 12: Bill Belichick doesn't get it on the first ballot, Mister

1598
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 12: Craft can't get in period. Out of Mintaria, doesn't get

1599
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 12: it in the first ballot. Do you when you have

1600
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 12: these deliberations, do you sense that there's any saltiness or

1601
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 12: anything like that towards the team.

1602
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 17: No, don't sense that.

1603
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 4: Now.

1604
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 17: I will say that in the discussion for Bill Belichick

1605
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 17: that spygate was discussed, and there was there was, you know,

1606
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 17: some pushing back pretty hard on that, and so it

1607
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 17: was discussed. The flake gate very little. It wasn't you know,

1608
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 17: talked about, you know, all that much. And it didn't

1609
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 17: come up in the discussion for Robert Kraft because I

1610
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 17: think there is the belief that he didn't know. I

1611
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 17: don't think he might not have either, he didn't know

1612
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 17: about that, and that you cannot.

1613
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: Discussion.

1614
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 17: I said, there was very little. It was mentioned but

1615
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 17: it wasn't discussed as much as Sky as spygate was.

1616
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 17: And it's kind of it. And I know it's probably, hey,

1617
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 17: there's there's a got sick of the Patriots and all that,

1618
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 17: a certain number of people out there, but it was

1619
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 17: interesting to me. Obviously we don't know all the vitriol

1620
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 17: last week was and I saw someone said, I'm not

1621
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,959
Speaker 17: even a Patriots fan, but this is crazy and spygate

1622
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 17: shouldn't even be considered, you know. And the funny thing

1623
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 17: to me is Jimmy Johnson his quote, well, oh everybody

1624
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 17: was trying it, or we tried and it didn't work. Well,

1625
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 17: I said, well, I will say this, maybe we should

1626
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 17: take him out. Well maybe, but I will say this,

1627
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 17: and total objectivity. If it wasn't working to some level

1628
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 17: for the Patriots, why would they have done it for

1629
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 17: so along?

1630
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 10: You know?

1631
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 17: So there was something there. I think the Patriots, we

1632
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 17: don't know.

1633
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 6: How much with spygate was not that they did it

1634
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 6: because teams were trying to decipher you know, uh signals

1635
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 6: in their own different way. But when they were told

1636
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 6: to stop, they did. That's that's that was their sin.

1637
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 6: And they were told to stop and they didn't stop and.

1638
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 17: Then at the end and that that happened with the

1639
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 17: Saints with the bounty scandal, where they were told to

1640
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 17: stop and they didn't and the league came down on them.

1641
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 17: And so what's what's interesting is that when the whole

1642
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 17: investigation came and then the League told the Patriots to

1643
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 17: just told Belichick and the Patriot to destroy the or

1644
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 17: to hand over the tapes, and they refused. So the

1645
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 17: League comes there and destroys them right well, and some

1646
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 17: almost say, well, why did they destroy them? But I

1647
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 17: don't think the league knew what was on them, but

1648
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 17: they didn't want whatever was on them being found out

1649
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 17: by the PA. But I do think though that even

1650
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 17: if there were some who had a pushback because of that,

1651
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 17: I don't and I don't know if we'll ever know

1652
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 17: how many votes Belichick really got. I saw one report

1653
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 17: he got thirty nine. Then someone told me the other

1654
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 17: day they saw supposed to report that he only got

1655
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 17: thirteen votes. I can't believe that that's the case. I

1656
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 17: do believe, and I know I don't have anything, no

1657
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 17: proof of it, that if it was up or down,

1658
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 17: that those who had a concern about it would have

1659
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 17: voted for him. And one of the reasons being, and

1660
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 17: maybe we shouldn't some voters do this. One voter came

1661
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 17: out and said, I was like kind of on the

1662
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 17: fence with Belichick because of some of the stuff, but

1663
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 17: I voted for him because just so he would be elected.

1664
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 17: And then that opens the door for more coaches. You know,

1665
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 17: last year, Mike Holmgren was a coach finalist and obviously

1666
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 17: didn't get the forty votes. So he's still waiting, along

1667
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 17: with Mike Shanahan and along with Tom coffin.

1668
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 7: Idea, no one can get in over Belichick, right.

1669
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 17: Right for everybody behind it, No, no, exactly, and you

1670
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 17: only have one person there's you know, that's the thing.

1671
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 17: And there were some who wondered, quite honestly, and I

1672
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 17: don't know how much this affected the vote. This is

1673
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 17: a Hall of Fame decision. Little background here. Back in

1674
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 17: the early two thousands, when after Bill after Bill Parcells

1675
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 17: left the Jets, he became eligible because there was a

1676
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 17: one year waiting period for coaches back then as.

1677
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 7: There is now.

1678
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 17: But that was just changed too, and no one knows

1679
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 17: why it was one year, And so Parcells told his

1680
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 17: presenter and he made it to the finals, told his presenter,

1681
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 17: I'm not coming back. Don't worry about I'm not going

1682
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 17: to coach again. Well, the committee didn't believe him, right,

1683
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 17: and they didn't vote him in that year or the

1684
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 17: next year, and then guess what the following year he

1685
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 17: went but he coached the Cowboys. But the Hall of

1686
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 17: Fame reacted and also made the coach waiting period five years,

1687
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 17: just like the players. Now, I on my level, I

1688
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 17: think that's probably too many. I understand you don't want

1689
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 17: a situation where a guy comes back at it sometimes

1690
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 17: old and they're older. Yeah, so don't make it five.

1691
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 17: Maybe compromise and make it three. But they then all

1692
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 17: of a sudden last year, out of nowhere, they changed

1693
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 17: it to one again, and so some are saying, well, Belichick,

1694
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 17: if was just throwing it the way they did, he

1695
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 17: wouldn't even been eligible this year. So it's there's all

1696
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 17: those things surrounding it that raise a lot of questions.

1697
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 7: Given me a headache. I can't imagine what it gives you.

1698
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: Why do you think this year we found out so

1699
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: much information before?

1700
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 17: Well, that's that's a big question. Now, you know, I

1701
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 17: know that anybody who was told and let's you know,

1702
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 17: we voted three weeks ago, from yesterday, January thirteenth, and

1703
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 17: we didn't we it couldn't come from our committee. That's

1704
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 17: the one thing. Because we weren't even told the results.

1705
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 17: We don't know what the vote was, and we don't

1706
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 17: know who got in. Right. Well, they travel around the

1707
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 17: country and knock on, you know, the doors of the

1708
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 17: houses of people. There's camera people, there's other everyone has

1709
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 17: to sign an NDA.

1710
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 7: Right.

1711
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 17: Well, but here's the thing. The Hall of Fame contacts

1712
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 17: all of the guys who didn't get in and tells

1713
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 17: them in advance. I think in the ESPN story, which

1714
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 17: was it seems like so long ago now it was

1715
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 17: last week, right, I think they said that had been

1716
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 17: told the previous friday.

1717
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 7: Did he leak it?

1718
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 17: Did he tell people that, hey, I didn't get in,

1719
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 17: and then those people told somebody else, and all of

1720
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 17: a sudden ESPN has the story, and then all of

1721
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 17: a sudden they have the Craft story, you know, a

1722
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 17: week later that he didn't get in either. So the

1723
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 17: Hall is very concerned with that and the leaks. They

1724
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 17: were also very concerned. I'll tell you this about some

1725
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 17: of the things that selectors anonymously told not you know,

1726
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 17: well off, not off the record, but without a name

1727
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 17: attachment told the ESPN writers things that were said in

1728
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 17: the room, including the one that was claimed that Bill

1729
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 17: what Bill Pollion said, which he didn't say, the one

1730
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 17: about well he should wait a year that was never

1731
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 17: said during the meeting, and so they're very concerned about that.

1732
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 17: But they like to find out who because we're not

1733
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 17: supposed we can talk about general things, but certainly not

1734
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 17: in advance, but we can talk about general things that

1735
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 17: were discussed, but not specific things that somebody said, even

1736
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 17: if you don't say the name of the person. And

1737
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 17: so they're concerned about that. But how they gonna be

1738
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 17: able to find out, I mean, that's.

1739
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 7: Before you go. I know we talked about Hall of Fame,

1740
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 7: but give us your take in the game.

1741
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 10: What are you thinking?

1742
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 17: You know, I think that I think on paper, at least,

1743
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 17: I think Seattle is the better team, but we all

1744
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 17: know that doesn't matter a lot of times. And it's

1745
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 17: a very intriguing matchup because, I mean, everyone knew how

1746
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 17: great Seattle's defense was all year, but I think there

1747
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 17: was so much chatter about the Patriots and Drake May

1748
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 17: and all that that no one was paying attention and

1749
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 17: talking about, oh, they didn't play anybody. The schedules, you know,

1750
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 17: strength the schedule is very low, and I don't know

1751
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 17: that anybody was paying as much attention to that defense.

1752
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 17: Now in the playoffs they certainly have, So that makes

1753
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 17: it very intriguing. Does that make Sam Darnold not play

1754
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 17: to the level that he's been playing. I think the

1755
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 17: wild card in all which I believe is the difference

1756
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 17: in that game against the Broncos, is Drake may run

1757
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 17: in the football. The question becomes, now, though, does he

1758
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 17: take those opportunities to run knowing that he's got you

1759
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 17: know that there might be a re injury to the shoulder,

1760
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 17: Well that that's true, But if he gets hurt and

1761
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 17: all of a sudden he can't continue, then that's yeah,

1762
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 17: a one hundred percent right on that aspect. Obviously, it's

1763
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 17: the fourth quarter and it's a huge play. You're gonna

1764
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 17: take your shot. But in the first or second quarter,

1765
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 17: you know, maybe well maybe I don't know if I

1766
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 17: should take the chance here, or you go down a

1767
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 17: little bit early and maybe the play doesn't become as

1768
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 17: as big as it might have been. So I think

1769
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 17: that's a big wild card in the game.

1770
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 7: I agree, his legs could be a huge factor in

1771
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 7: this game, but.

1772
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 17: It's it's, like I said, it's a very intriguing matchup.

1773
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 17: And just because I.

1774
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 6: Think at McDonald, because you know, like he was to me,

1775
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 6: he flew a little under the radars to everyone was

1776
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:02,440
Speaker 6: talking about, you know, Ben Johnson and Cohen in Jacksonville,

1777
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, here come the Seahawks

1778
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 6: with this first year coach, second year coach, but young guy,

1779
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 6: and you know everybody is, oh, now, he might be

1780
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 6: MVP coach candidate, Like what is it about him that

1781
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 6: makes him a good coach?

1782
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 17: It's a great question. And I think that part of

1783
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 17: no one was paying attention is that last year, everyone

1784
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 17: forgets they tied for first place in the division with

1785
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 17: the Rams. They were ten and seven in his first year.

1786
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 17: But he also took over a program that was already

1787
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 17: pretty good.

1788
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 7: Yeah right.

1789
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 17: He wasn't taken over a team that was four and

1790
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 17: thirteen or anything like that. The year before, I'm pretty

1791
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 17: sure they were either nine and eight or eight and nine.

1792
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 17: I think it was nine and eight, and so he

1793
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 17: was already taken over a team that was in a

1794
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 17: good place with one of the better talent evaluators and

1795
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 17: general managers in the league in John Schneider. And so

1796
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 17: last year they did what they did. Then this year

1797
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 17: they're still flying a little bit under the radar because

1798
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 17: they weren't in the postseason. And then they just go

1799
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 17: out and they just you know, have that defense, and

1800
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 17: they made some key moves with you know, signing DeMarcus Lawrence,

1801
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 17: you know, Sam Darnold, and everyone was wondering, how how

1802
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 17: is he going to play? Was last year of Fluke.

1803
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 17: He didn't play well at the end of the season

1804
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 17: in a key regular season game and then in the

1805
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,560
Speaker 17: playoff game. So but McDonald he came from. You know,

1806
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 17: the interesting thing that I found as I was looking

1807
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 17: up him because well I probably didn't tell you guys this,

1808
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 17: but you know I do Lindy's Pro Football magazine. Yeah,

1809
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 17: I've been doing that for over thirty years. And he's

1810
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 17: publishing a magazine on the pay on the Seahawks if

1811
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 17: they win. Oh really, because he does a lot of

1812
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 17: these specials and they prepared in advance, so it goes

1813
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 17: to the printer Monday morning, right, and so they have

1814
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 17: to do stories and I had I did a story

1815
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 17: on it on Mike McDonald, and I had to write

1816
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 17: it as if they won, right right, because the game

1817
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 17: will if it and if no one will ever see

1818
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 17: the story. Well, the interesting thing was that from stuff

1819
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 17: that John Schneider had heard about Mike McDonald, he said,

1820
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 17: you're going to be impressed with this guy. You're going

1821
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 17: to be impressed with him. And so the story goes

1822
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 17: that he was he was the Ravens defensive coordinator, and

1823
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 17: that Schneider was praying that they would lose the AFC

1824
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 17: Championship game to the Chiefs, which that would have been

1825
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 17: twenty twenty three season, I guess, because yeah, twenty three season,

1826
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 17: and he was hoping they would lose so he'd be

1827
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 17: able to get right after him. And the game was

1828
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 17: played on January twenty eighth, and three days later, Schneider

1829
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 17: was hired, I mean, McDonald's hired by the Seahawks and

1830
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 17: then and then they've gone from there and.

1831
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 6: Oh, he's it's good to see the young coaches. Needs

1832
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 6: more good head coaches, that's for sure.

1833
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 17: And for the most part, everyone's hiring these young guys,

1834
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 17: you know, guys from the from the McVeigh tree, the.

1835
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 7: Tight pants guys. Yeah, so it's all right, Howard, it's

1836
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 7: so good to have you here.

1837
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 17: My pleasure.

1838
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 6: We appreciate you coming. It's good to see you again.

1839
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 6: Howard Ballzer fifty years right, forty five.

1840
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 17: Forty five Super Bowls. This is my fiftieth fifty season covering.

1841
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 7: All right, all right, well thanks Howard. We are going

1842
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 7: to take a break.

1843
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 6: We'll be right back after this with more calls, emails,

1844
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 6: and guests here live from Radio Row.

1845
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: Come on, switch, Come on, come on, switch.

1846
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 11: Switch.

1847
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 19: Let there be ideas too big to stay, ideas and

1848
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 19: the software to make them sore.

1849
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 20: Let there be anything.

1850
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:06,040
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1851
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,680
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1852
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1853
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 20: Duncan's five dollar meal Deal.

1854
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 23: A yummy wake up wrap, a mediumized hot coffee, and

1855
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 23: six crispy golden hash Browns. Duncan's five dollar meal Deal

1856
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 23: a deal for everyone.

1857
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 24: It ain't my dad's razor dot hey watch it. It's

1858
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 24: from to leet lapse. This green bar releases trapped hairs

1859
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 24: from my face.

1860
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: Game change it well to flex.

1861
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 24: This contours to it so the five blades can get

1862
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 24: virtually every hair in one stroke for the ultimate to

1863
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 24: let shaving experience.

1864
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: The best to make can get is to let lapse.

1865
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: We had a crime stop or tip come in.

1866
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 11: We walked into a reel up tonight.

1867
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 8: How much you sit man over twenty min Any ideas

1868
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 8: we might want this money?

1869
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 3: The cartel, dirty cops. Where do you want to start?

1870
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 11: It can't be something chasier.

1871
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 31: We just stole this money, I saidear to God, a secres.

1872
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 2: Come on, switch, come on, tell, come on, switch switch.

1873
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 19: Let there be ideas too big to stay, ideas and

1874
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 19: the software to make them sore.

1875
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 20: Let there be anything.

1876
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 21: Autodesk The future with AI will twist unturned. Cisco is

1877
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 21: the critical infrastructure for the.

1878
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 22: AI era, clearing your path to wide open possibility. Cisco.

1879
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 20: Duncan's five dollar meal deal.

1880
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 23: A yummy wakeup wrap, a mediumizedter hot coffee, and six

1881
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 23: crispy golden hash Browns.

1882
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 20: Duncan's five dollar meal deal a deal for everyone.

1883
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 24: It ain't my dad's razor duve, hey watch it, It's

1884
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 24: from you.

1885
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: Let lapse.

1886
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 24: This green bar releases trapped hairs from my face. Game

1887
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 24: change it will afflex this contours to it so the

1888
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 24: five blades can get virtually every hair in one stroke

1889
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 24: for the ultimate to let shaving experience, the best.

1890
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 8: To make you get just to We had a crime

1891
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 8: stopper tip come in.

1892
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 11: We walked into a real one tonight. How much you

1893
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 11: said over twenty min any ideas we might want this money?

1894
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 3: It's the cartel, dirty cops. Where do you want to start?

1895
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 2: It gonna be so much easier.

1896
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 3: We just stole this money.

1897
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: I sawear to god.

1898
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:54,040
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1899
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1900
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 8: M hm.

1901
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 7: H, m hm.

1902
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 4: Hm. Using common sense and if you're good, if you're

1903
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 4: if you should be in, you get in. It's a

1904
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 4: it should be a yes or no right, you know,

1905
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 4: is he or isn't he? And what ballot?

1906
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 12: And how long is this guy waited versus that? Like

1907
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 12: that all that it just is a yes or no question.

1908
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 12: And I feel like with all these things, it gets

1909
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 12: all convoluted by all these technicalities and voting issues. And

1910
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 12: this guy's been waiting for one hundred years and ready

1911
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 12: to get the twelfth Pittsburgh Steeler.

1912
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 4: Into the Hall of Fame, waiting that long.

1913
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 7: Maybe he's not right, Maybe he should you know? Yeah,

1914
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 7: I don't know. I guess there are Eric.

1915
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Allen thing right, and Eric Allen's a really good player.

1916
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 9: Like I'm not telling you, yes, no, indifferent, but if

1917
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 9: it's taken eighteen years, he's probably not a Hall of

1918
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 9: Fame right right?

1919
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 7: Right?

1920
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 4: Oh?

1921
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 7: I like the abyss.

1922
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, talking about all these guys you don't get

1923
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 8: in senior abyss.

1924
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 9: Right, I don't know, that's that's me, Mike, the PU

1925
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 9: senior abyss. You're in the abyss with Fred Kursh. You're

1926
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 9: in the hall after after Eric, but you're in no like.

1927
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: You know, vo did that hurt Eric?

1928
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 6: Like for Bull they saw and they put him in

1929
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 6: the Just no, there was no debate right to the hall.

1930
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 7: They didn't make you wait it for you?

1931
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: Is there amount? Only that I was with the inaugural

1932
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: class there you go?

1933
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 28: Right?

1934
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: So that is that is true?

1935
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 7: He says, with this chin up.

1936
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: Fred Kursh ball now.

1937
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 7: All right.

1938
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 6: Uh Kendall from North Carolina has been holding on. He's

1939
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 6: trying again. Uh Kendall, are you there? See you know

1940
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 6: if you're gonna call, you gotta you gotta hang on,

1941
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 6: you gotta be patient.

1942
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Having issues.

1943
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 6: Kendall is not there. How about Sabah from North Carolina.

1944
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 6: I hope I'm saying your name correctly, So yes, am

1945
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 6: I on?

1946
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 7: You were on? What's your name?

1947
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 32: Okay?

1948
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 28: Great?

1949
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 32: Hey this saba down here in North Carolina? Okay, yep, yes,

1950
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 32: I am all in on right Maye. But I'm upset

1951
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 32: and how I'm here and I'm gonna be Redskins fans.

1952
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 32: I hear a lot of chat. I'm hearing you guys.

1953
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 32: I listen to you guys and watch all the shows.

1954
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 32: I can double dipping on both.

1955
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 28: Teams here, and I don't like what I'm hearing about.

1956
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 32: Brake may had a good regular season, but not a

1957
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 32: good postseason. Okay, well, look what he did against the

1958
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 32: best defense in the league. One up, and he threw

1959
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 32: three touchdown passes. What other quarterback did that? And in

1960
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 32: the snow, I can barely walk to my corner, so

1961
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 32: this guy's throwing passes. And then in Denver it was

1962
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 32: a month soon out there, and he did what his

1963
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 32: soups told him to do. But yet we walked at

1964
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 32: the same time, which I agree. The defense is good

1965
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 32: for the Patriots, but you.

1966
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 28: Guys would act like the defense is why they won

1967
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 28: the games.

1968
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 32: Well, the defense is playing bad quarterbacks. Okay, but Drake

1969
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 32: May doesn't get credit for beating bad quarterbacks. But the

1970
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 32: defense gets credit for beating bad quarterback.

1971
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 9: Drake he might win the MVP because he beat a

1972
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 9: lot of bad quarterbacks.

1973
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you've heard many times. She didn't. She

1974
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: doesn't think it's particularly close. She thinks Drake May's the MVP.

1975
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 32: Well, they shouldn't be. At the point is he's getting criticized.

1976
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 28: Even by you guys. He doesn't have a good game.

1977
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 32: Goes didn't have a good game and throws three deep

1978
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 32: dimes against the Houston Texas.

1979
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: He threw one deep dove.

1980
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 32: That's a bad game.

1981
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 4: Then he's elite, so he didn't play well.

1982
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,719
Speaker 1: When you turn the ball over, you only talked about

1983
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: the three touchdowns. You didn't talk about the three turnovers.

1984
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: That means he That means he didn't have a good game.

1985
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 8: No.

1986
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 32: Yes, the game is when you have mistakes without the

1987
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 32: good plays.

1988
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: No, that that would be. That would be having a

1989
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 1: terrible game. That would be c J.

1990
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 7: Stroud Listen, I I love your passion. I love your passion,

1991
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 7: and you like y'all.

1992
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm having I'm having a lot of fun with you.

1993
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: I am having a lot of fun with you.

1994
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 4: I love I appreciate the call, and I do love that.

1995
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 7: I love your passion and you stick by Drake. But

1996
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 7: here's here's the thing.

1997
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 6: Here's and I think we both can agree we haven't

1998
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 6: even seen the best from Drake.

1999
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 7: May would you agree with that?

2000
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 10: Not at all?

2001
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 7: Okay, he's like.

2002
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 32: A kid crawling. You don't want your kids come out

2003
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 32: of your body, jumping on trampoline.

2004
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 4: That's right, I hear that. I absolutely love this.

2005
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 10: Anybody you got to give her a show.

2006
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 7: We need you gonna a frequent caller on this show.

2007
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 1: Yes, please stop double dipping. Just come out.

2008
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 8: I'm like, I kind of think I might know who

2009
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,919
Speaker 8: that is really like internet from the internets?

2010
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 7: Oh really or in real life? Maybe was it Bart?

2011
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 6: Oh?

2012
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: Okay, oh it was bar Yeah? No, well it might

2013
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 1: have been whoever Fred got for Barth?

2014
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 7: Who knows.

2015
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 4: I'll see if I get a text in about thirty seconds.

2016
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 7: Are we we're getting things about it?

2017
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: I love it?

2018
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 7: A headset audio problems? Are we good? We're all good?

2019
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 6: Okay, all right they said there was a little problem

2020
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 6: coming out of the break. No, okay, oh yeah, okay,

2021
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 6: all right, Well but I loved I love.

2022
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 4: The passion, and I hope that wasn't the plants call.

2023
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: I hope that was real. So I don't want to,

2024
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 1: like every think there was a plant now, so now

2025
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: I think it's ruined.

2026
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 7: Who would have planted that?

2027
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,799
Speaker 12: Because I love that call? So, uh it was Sabah

2028
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 12: from North Carolina? Yeah, okay, did Rom Carolina. But Jess's

2029
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 12: step mom name is Sonia from South Carolina. It is

2030
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 12: a Redskins commander's fan, really, and it sounds.

2031
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 4: Exactly like that.

2032
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 12: And I've been telling she's a big passionate football fan,

2033
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 12: and I've been telling her that she needs to call in,

2034
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 12: and I wonder if she just made up her name.

2035
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: But then it was a real call though, that she had,

2036
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: that was real passion.

2037
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 4: That's totally off base with that.

2038
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,560
Speaker 9: But like I was, like I was, it was like

2039
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 9: Alex on the other side of the room, like disguising

2040
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 9: her voice just so she was getting an argument with me.

2041
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 4: So I know this, Your wife's mother sounds just like stepmom.

2042
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, oh wow. Yeah, And she's same Southern accent. She

2043
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 12: is a commander's she calls them, she still calls them

2044
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 12: by their former name.

2045
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: So that's the tip off.

2046
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, and so yeah, I'm gonna have didn't she

2047
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 12: just used her regular name. Maybe she was trying to

2048
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 12: go in disguise.

2049
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, maybe I'm totally wrong and this

2050
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 4: is a totally different Just.

2051
01:37:58,120 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 8: To be fair, sometimes the names on the call screen

2052
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 8: your are a little off, and.

2053
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 4: Her name is a little bit unique.

2054
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 7: So she said, yeah, that's funny.

2055
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 4: I have to make make a few much funny after this.

2056
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 8: So we got we got some former Patriots time, we

2057
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 8: got Joe millwalka Bay, we got Taekwon.

2058
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say that's Taekwon.

2059
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: I didn't recognize him only by the wrists.

2060
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 6: Okay, he looks fast, Yeah, Norway from Arizona. Just checking

2061
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 6: to see if Evan finally got his audition with ESPN.

2062
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 6: Did he gets to rub elbows with his ball knowing

2063
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 6: idol Dan? Oh, they were close. They didn't quite rub ebels,

2064
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 6: But I thought I was about to you didn't. I

2065
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 6: was like I was hoping for like a a little.

2066
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 8: Knowing nod, like an old Western Yeah I know you

2067
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 8: and you know me?

2068
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 7: Would you say?

2069
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 17: His girl?

2070
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,759
Speaker 6: Meta chimes could perhaps get him on the audition, considering

2071
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 6: how much he loves his ball knowing.

2072
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 4: So we had me to kimes on and Evan had

2073
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 4: his time with her.

2074
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's telling Bill Summons about him.

2075
01:38:59,280 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 10: I don't know.

2076
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, the guy's got to be the empire.

2077
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 4: That's another one that.

2078
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, another one I worked with in the paste that

2079
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 9: left me behind Kingmaker.

2080
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:13,719
Speaker 6: Let's see Mason from Upstate New York, says Diana Racidi

2081
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 6: said live on Zoe and Bertrand that MaTx Crosby would

2082
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 6: love to play for Mike Rabel.

2083
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 7: That'd be a slam dunk.

2084
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 4: I mean, but there's been some tea leaves about is that.

2085
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 8: I mean, that's a that's a first round pick, right,

2086
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, that's I mean at least yeah.

2087
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 4: You know toy is he twenty eight?

2088
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 7: And then he's I'm not sure there's a price.

2089
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I do a first round pick.

2090
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 12: But yeah, especially the thirty second overall pick in the draft.

2091
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 12: But yeah, there's been a lot of tea leaves about that.

2092
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Twenty eight.

2093
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 12: He's been pretty vocal about how impressed he is with

2094
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 12: the Patriots and how impressed he is with Rabel and

2095
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 12: all those types of things during this playoff run, because

2096
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 12: he's doing some podcasting like they all do these days.

2097
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 4: He's doing his old.

2098
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 12: Own media stuff. Got to get you on the pod,

2099
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 12: very high praise for for Rabel and the Patriots. And

2100
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 12: so maybe she's just kind of reading between the lines

2101
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 12: or playing matchmaker a little bit.

2102
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 4: I like it reporting on that.

2103
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 7: But yeah, uh, Ben writes, and he's in woods hole.

2104
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 7: That's down by my neck of the woods.

2105
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 6: As a video production professional, the Duncan cups on the table.

2106
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 7: Are really stressing me out. Anyone almost knocked one over yet?

2107
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 7: Well then do a bit Fred, Oh there you go.

2108
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 7: I don't have an empty so I don't worry about football. Question.

2109
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,719
Speaker 6: How much of the Patriots defensive performances in the playoffs

2110
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 6: have been because of the defense's dominance versus the opposing

2111
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 6: quarterbacks incompetence.

2112
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 9: So I thought when Mina brought that up, you know,

2113
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,719
Speaker 9: she thought, maybe the Patriots offense is being underrated based

2114
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 9: on their performance. Isn't bad weather in the Patriots defense

2115
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 9: is being overrated.

2116
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 7: A little bit.

2117
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 1: No one's really mentioned the weather for the Patriots defense.

2118
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, like you might hear like how bad the quarterback

2119
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 9: play was, you know, but you're not hearing like, well,

2120
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 9: the weather contributed to that it was the Patriot's defense

2121
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 9: dominated c J. Stroud, not the weather hurt CJ. Stroud,

2122
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 9: and then he got spugged by the defense, do you

2123
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 9: know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, I do think there's

2124
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 9: probably an element of truth to what Mina said about

2125
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 9: one's probably not quite as good as you think and

2126
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 9: the other is probably better than you think.

2127
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's definitely truth to that.

2128
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 12: I'm actually have been working on something this week about,

2129
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 12: you know, the players, the Patriots players, whether it's just

2130
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 12: kind of extra motivation to already being motivated or whatever inspired.

2131
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 12: Sorry inspired, We don't motivate, we inspire here. But regardless,

2132
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 12: they have clearly heard on the defensive side of the ball,

2133
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 12: the lack of hype for themselves, you know, like they

2134
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 12: have clearly used that as motivation every week. It's the

2135
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 12: Texans defense, it's the Broncos defense is the best defense

2136
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 12: in the game. Now the Seahawks defense is the best defense.

2137
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 12: Or they're playing with a backup quarterback, or CJ. Stroud

2138
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 12: stinks or whatever all these other excuses are. And I

2139
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 12: guess whatever motivates you right when, whatever, whatever works.

2140
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 4: But every guy that I talked to was pretty clear that. Yeah,

2141
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 4: like we hear it and we we are.

2142
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: Using I was in on Milton Williams the other night

2143
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 1: at Opening Night. Yeah, he was definitely he.

2144
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 4: Seems to lead. Yeah, he definitely does.

2145
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 12: But even the guy like Christian Ellis, who is like

2146
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 12: the nicest guy and like very unassuming in terms of

2147
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 12: these types of things, even he was like saying, yet

2148
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 12: one hundred percent, you know that this guy is uh,

2149
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 12: you know, this is in our heads sort of thing

2150
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 12: in a good way.

2151
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 4: You know, they're using it as motivation.

2152
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do think that he does well

2153
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 9: with that. You know, some guys it's so foolished and fake.

2154
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 9: But Milton Williams just like, no, yeah, yeah, no, don't

2155
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 9: they don't. They don't think they're any good. Yeah, he's

2156
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 9: a serious da.

2157
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 1: He does, Yeah, he does. He does well with that.

2158
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, we don't get the respect him.

2159
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 12: He said that they're gonna find another reason if they

2160
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 12: beat Seattle. It will be something else, you know, you

2161
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 12: know Darnold played terribly or you know, it will be

2162
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 12: another reason why.

2163
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 4: And not giving the Patriots defense any.

2164
01:42:59,320 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 7: Will I got.

2165
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 8: I got a question, is is there any chance that

2166
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 8: the Seattle defense is a little overrated.

2167
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 6: No, no, politely no, yeah, I mean when you think about,

2168
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 6: you know, the length of the season, the team you

2169
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:16,560
Speaker 6: know coming through the NFC, I think, you know, just

2170
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 6: like I would be defensive if the Patriots, you know,

2171
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 6: someone asked about that. No, I don't think they're underrated.

2172
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 6: I think that I think they've earned the rating that

2173
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 6: they have.

2174
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on what you think.

2175
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,640
Speaker 9: But to go whatever it is, nineteen games and give

2176
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 9: up thirty points twice, like, that's pretty good.

2177
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.

2178
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 9: And that's you know, in the NFC West, where you're

2179
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 9: playing some better teams on a consistent basis. I've seen

2180
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 9: Evans Idle find a way to light up team after

2181
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 9: team after team, and he shut them down twice, the

2182
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,919
Speaker 9: Niners late in the season with with all the marbles,

2183
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 9: one for the number one seed and one in the

2184
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 9: actual playoffs, and they couldn't move the ball an inch.

2185
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 9: So I would tend to think, no, they're not overrated.

2186
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 9: But any defense can be beaten. Any defense can beat

2187
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 9: And that.

2188
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 8: Goes back to my thing of there's only a few

2189
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 8: defenses that are truly special, and otherwise you can have

2190
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 8: a defense that's good enough to win the Super Bowl,

2191
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 8: and I guess that's just I haven't heard one single

2192
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 8: person asked that question this week.

2193
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 7: Everybody is in you know, maybe it is deserved.

2194
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 8: I just don't wanted to pose it because sometimes when

2195
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 8: it's just over and over and you just get built up,

2196
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 8: like you can't even move the ball on them.

2197
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 7: I don't know, we'll see the Super Bowls anywhere.

2198
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 12: I hear what you're saying. I don't know, you can't

2199
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 12: move the ball on them, like they're the eighty five.

2200
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 12: Theres is obviously exaggerating, which we tend to do. But

2201
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 12: I think with them, it's it's between them and Houston

2202
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 12: as the two best defenses in the league. And I

2203
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 12: think Houston has a little bit better talent, but I

2204
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 12: think the Seattle scheme is better than Houston.

2205
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 9: What I watched in Houston's like, you can't move the

2206
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 9: ball on them. Yeah, like that's what I saw on

2207
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 9: that day. Now I know that they had you know,

2208
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 9: the plays, but you could they couldn't move the ball. Yeah,

2209
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 9: they had like one good drive in the game. Yeah,

2210
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 9: they had a lot of drives.

2211
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 12: I think this Seattle defense, like I said, you know,

2212
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 12: they don't have a will Anderson. You know, I don't

2213
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 12: think that Witherspoon's a really good player, is he? Derek

2214
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 12: Stingley Junior?

2215
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:11,440
Speaker 4: Probably not. But they have a terrific.

2216
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 12: Defensive scheme and a play caller that kind of knows

2217
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 12: when to push the right buttons, and they have droves

2218
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:18,919
Speaker 12: of depth on defense.

2219
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 7: You know, that's the thing.

2220
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 24: You know.

2221
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 6: Like, admittedly, and I said this before on a previous show,

2222
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 6: I didn't really pay a lot of attention to the

2223
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 6: Seahawks as the season progressed, But then, you know, toward

2224
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 6: the end of the season, I started watching them and

2225
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 6: just my eyeball, like they're about their my eyeball tests

2226
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:35,879
Speaker 6: about their defense.

2227
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, these guys are good. Yeah, Like

2228
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 4: they fly all.

2229
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 6: Over the place, they're good tacklers, they don't make a

2230
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 6: lot of mistakes. Yeah, you know when they do, they

2231
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 6: can recover like they look like a good defense. Yeah,

2232
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 6: they're no fluke. Yeah, there's nothing fluky about them.

2233
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 12: I think that one of the biggest compliments that you

2234
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 12: can have schematically is when you start seeing teams borrow

2235
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 12: play that other teams are running.

2236
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 4: You know, who started to.

2237
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 12: Stretch stuff down and McDonald I think is probably the

2238
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 12: best blitzer in terms of designing blitzes in the NFL,

2239
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 12: and him and Jesse Minter, you know, have kind of

2240
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 12: have this little tree going now that's you know, stems

2241
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 12: from Wing Martindale and some of the things that Wing

2242
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 12: Martindale used to do as well. But like that that

2243
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 12: play calling tree is now like the envy of the

2244
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 12: league on defense, just like the Shanahan tree is the

2245
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 12: envy of the league on offense. Like everybody is putting

2246
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 12: in Seattle blitzes into their into their defense because of

2247
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 12: how good they are. So that's the type of stuff

2248
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 12: that you hear about with McDonald. But I think the

2249
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 12: interesting thing about him, you're asking Howard about him, he's

2250
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 12: very uh different from Rabel. Like he's not a very

2251
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 12: energetic guy. He's not like a very demonstrative personality. He

2252
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 12: is like a true Jim Rat, Like he just is

2253
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 12: all ball. He's very like straight faced and like expressionless,

2254
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 12: and you know, very different. Even just seeing them.

2255
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 4: Up there on opening night, Like the contrast.

2256
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 12: Of like Rabel's energy that we're so used to seeing

2257
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:14,919
Speaker 12: now and McDonald's kind of just you know, stoicness. It's

2258
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 12: a very different type of approach. He's not a raw

2259
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 12: rack guy, like I don't think that he's going into

2260
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 12: the locker room and rallying the troops in the same sense,

2261
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 12: but they trust him because of how good of a

2262
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 12: coach he is.

2263
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think Seattle has earned the praise that

2264
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 6: they're getting a defense and they are, you know, one

2265
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 6: of the best defense in the league. I think Milton Williams,

2266
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 6: on the other hand, maybe he's got a case that

2267
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 6: the Patriots are being a little bit underrated because I

2268
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 6: look at the Patriots and I think, you know what

2269
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 6: happened when Milton Williams and Spallaine were out and it

2270
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 6: made a difference. When they came back, it made a difference,

2271
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 6: which tells me they're a good defense, but they're not

2272
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 6: maybe not quite as deep.

2273
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 9: I would agree that I think that people have overlooked

2274
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 9: the Patriots defense, and I would put my in that category.

2275
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 9: I wasn't anticipating the kind of performance that we've seen

2276
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:05,640
Speaker 9: in the postseason.

2277
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 1: From that side of the ball.

2278
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 9: I do, would absolutely do think that the weather and

2279
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 9: the opponents had something to do with it, but I

2280
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 9: wouldn't have said that they'd be able to shut down

2281
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 9: three straight teams.

2282
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 1: The way that they shut down all three of these teams.

2283
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought that that was possible.

2284
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 6: That run defense that we saw in the beginning of

2285
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 6: the season that kind of had a little bit of

2286
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 6: a letdown and then and picked it up.

2287
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 4: It's for real. The Patriots run defense is for real.

2288
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:32,600
Speaker 6: I mean, one thing I think, as Patriots fans you

2289
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 6: can count on for this game is they're going to

2290
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 6: be stout against the run, right you know, So that's

2291
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 6: that's something that's a chip in you know, a bird

2292
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 6: in the hand that you can count on in this game.

2293
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wanted to ask Evan a little about that.

2294
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 8: As you mentioned, ev they run a lot of wide zone,

2295
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 8: and really I remember Bill coaching against the wide zone

2296
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,640
Speaker 8: where they just kind of go along with him, and

2297
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 8: it seems like this defense you're just cutting gaps, you're

2298
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 8: trying to get through, You're not trying to like stay

2299
01:48:57,439 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 8: what parallel with the line of scrimmage. I think with

2300
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 8: you know, the kind of two gaping style, was you know,

2301
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 8: does that have the chance to make some plays in

2302
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 8: the backfield and maybe for some turnovers.

2303
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 12: I think one of the few times, and I'm sure

2304
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 12: there are other times when one of the few times

2305
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 12: where it publicly became a thing.

2306
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 4: In Super Bowl fifty three against the Rams. There's a

2307
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 4: clip on the sideline.

2308
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 12: I don't know if it's our clip or his NFL

2309
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 12: films or whatever, where Bill is talking to the defensive

2310
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,719
Speaker 12: line and he's saying, get vertical, get vertical, get vertical,

2311
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 12: because the kryptonite to outside zone is interior penetration. So

2312
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 12: that's that they want to stretch it out. They want

2313
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 12: to get to the corner. So if you can just

2314
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 12: get right in the backfield. So that was the one

2315
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 12: game where they ran They ran, you know, an even front.

2316
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 12: They ran the six to one and they they threw

2317
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 12: out the two gaping and they shot gaps and they

2318
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:45,719
Speaker 12: got up the field.

2319
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,560
Speaker 4: So I fully expect the Patriots to want to do

2320
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 4: that again.

2321
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 12: And I actually went back and watched Brian Flores and

2322
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 12: the Vikings play this Seahawks offense a couple of weeks ago,

2323
01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 12: and Brian Flores just ran the Super Bowl fifty three

2324
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 12: g plan against them. They played six to one, they

2325
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 12: played a too high safety shell. It was literally he

2326
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 12: just took the Super Bowl fifty three game plan and

2327
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 12: put it into this game.

2328
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 4: And that was one of Darnold's worst games statistically.

2329
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:12,839
Speaker 1: They blitzed a lot in that game, if I recall.

2330
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it was one of those games they they

2331
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 9: won handily, but it was because yeah, yeah, because Broswa

2332
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 9: played and he couldn't handle anything that Seattle was doing.

2333
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 1: They shut him out.

2334
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, And they could have played that game for three

2335
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 9: weeks and the Vikings weren't going to score a point,

2336
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 9: but the Seahawks got the possession after possession after and

2337
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 9: they still couldn't score.

2338
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 1: They couldn't mount any drives.

2339
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:35,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was a lot of you know, six to

2340
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 12: one fronts, and then the exotics on third down with

2341
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 12: the simulated pressures and things like that over like a

2342
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 12: sixty percent blitz rate on third down because they were

2343
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 12: stopping to run on first down and getting them into

2344
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:48,600
Speaker 12: third and pass and so then you can start to

2345
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 12: cook up those pass rushes.

2346
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2347
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 6: And you know, when it comes to these games, it's

2348
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 6: it's as much as when you do things as much

2349
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 6: as it is what you do. So you know, you're

2350
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 6: talking about those blitzer deserved shooting gaps instead of you know, uh,

2351
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 6: you know, playing man up and you know, just doing

2352
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 6: the zero technique or whatever you want to call it,

2353
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 6: it's when you do things, it's when you blitz. The

2354
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 6: timing of it that is so key. And that's why

2355
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 6: Seattle has been so good. It's they they seem to

2356
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 6: time up things really well.

2357
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, in that ram Super Bowl, they they kept on

2358
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 12: showing all out pressure the Patriots did, but they only

2359
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 12: brought it one time and it was Stefan Gilmour's interception.

2360
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 4: It was the one time they actually brought the house.

2361
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 12: And they kept showing it and showing it and showing

2362
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 12: it and then falling out of it once the ball

2363
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:38,559
Speaker 12: is snapped. And the one time they brought the house,

2364
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 12: they got a you know, a guy right in on

2365
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 12: golf and he threw up an arm punt to Stefan

2366
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,560
Speaker 12: Gilmore and that was kind of the ball game. So

2367
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 12: they That could be a big part of it too,

2368
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 12: is you try to kind of lull them to sleep

2369
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 12: a little bit and then save it for the exact

2370
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 12: right moment and try to send the house.

2371
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 6: Chris writes in do you expect McDaniels to open up

2372
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 6: the playbook a bit considering his offense hasn't been able

2373
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 6: to play in anything but snow or wetness. Because I

2374
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 6: believe the weather has helped a bit, not allowing the

2375
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,679
Speaker 6: Pages to put a lot more of their playoff install

2376
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 6: on film.

2377
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 7: I also expect some trickery from him as well. What

2378
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 7: do you guys think.

2379
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 9: I think we've seen that in the first three games,

2380
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 9: and I expect to see more of it. There's been

2381
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 9: trick plays in every game, usually more than one. I

2382
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 9: expect to see something. I don't know what it will be.

2383
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 9: You know, you guys were talking about the throwback to

2384
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 9: Brady in one of the Super Bowls. You know, we

2385
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 9: didn't really see a whole lot of the direct snaps,

2386
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 9: you know, the flea flickers. We've seen a couple of

2387
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 9: variations of flee flickers just in the last five or

2388
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 9: six weeks.

2389
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 7: There's been two.

2390
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 4: Stay trying to throw it to Drake and Aptonism threw

2391
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 4: it over his head.

2392
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I expect to see more of that.

2393
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2394
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 12: I think one of the things that you look at

2395
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:47,799
Speaker 12: with the Seattle defense, I don't know if it's necessarily

2396
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 12: trick plays, but they're so good in structure, like they're

2397
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 12: they're such a good pass defense, just you know, straight

2398
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 12: up in structure on the play. But the one thing

2399
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 12: that they have had some issues with. Are second reaction

2400
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 12: or out of structure or playground football, I guess is

2401
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 12: the best way to say it.

2402
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 7: So some of that is.

2403
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 12: Desperation, right, you know, guy quarterbacks running for his life

2404
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 12: and he stumbles into a play here or there, which

2405
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 12: is kind of what happened to Brock Purdy, I would say.

2406
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 12: But some of that also is, you know, can you

2407
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 12: kind of break down their zones a little bit where well,

2408
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 12: now that you know Drake May gets out of the pocket,

2409
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 12: he's extending the play. They got a plaster they got

2410
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 12: to take him or whatever, and maybe he can pop

2411
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 12: open some receivers by doing that. It's really hard to

2412
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 12: beat them just dropping.

2413
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 4: Back the pass and trying to beat their coverage. They're

2414
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 4: just too good in the back end.

2415
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 12: So maybe Drake May getting outside the pocket and extending

2416
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 12: to play a little bit. And I would like to

2417
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 12: see him do it as a thrower, you know, like

2418
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 12: maybe a little bit more than what we've seen in

2419
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 12: the playoffs. He's been great as a runner, but can

2420
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 12: they get him back into extending plays with his eyes

2421
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 12: down the field a little bit more to try to

2422
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 12: be a thrower.

2423
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 6: I'd feel better about that if up at this point,

2424
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,759
Speaker 6: Pop had been more part of the offense as a receiver,

2425
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 6: because you know, when you talk about running, you know,

2426
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 6: throwing on the run, you need your receivers to be

2427
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 6: on the same page.

2428
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 7: You need them to be traveling with you.

2429
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,600
Speaker 6: And you know, like we haven't seen a lot of

2430
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 6: that from Pop, and I think he's the guy that

2431
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 6: I think has the quickness to be able to do that.

2432
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're just they're they're so sound, and when you

2433
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 12: look at just trying to beat them, you know, within

2434
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 12: the pocket instructure, hit the top of your drop and throw.

2435
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 12: Like they're just so good at all the things that

2436
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 12: you know, they're taking away everything in the back end

2437
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 12: and it might take, you know, for the Patriots to

2438
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 12: win this game. Drake May making a few plays with

2439
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 12: his legs, you know, outside the pocket to try to.

2440
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 4: Open it up a little bit.

2441
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 6: Ye, all right, let's get back to the phones. Eight

2442
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 6: five five pats five hundred Johnson Dallas, what's up?

2443
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 4: John?

2444
01:54:58,960 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 7: Hey John?

2445
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 6: No, people just not hanging up, Johnny, John you're there,

2446
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 6: so okay? Three two you're a gud uh. Let's go

2447
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 6: to now I can't hang up. All right, There we

2448
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 6: go Noah is in Oregon.

2449
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 7: I think is that correct?

2450
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: Either that or Old Rochester?

2451
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 7: Cool? Yeah, Noah, Noah?

2452
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 4: You there?

2453
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 7: What's up?

2454
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 10: Noah?

2455
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 20: Hey, how's the guard?

2456
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 28: I've got a cool question for you guys.

2457
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 7: Okay, with the.

2458
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 8: Super Bowl coming up, I'm a big Patriots fan, but

2459
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 8: I know we got a lot of rookies.

2460
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 16: With that being said, how do you guys feel the

2461
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 16: Pats we're gonna do with the offense being filled with

2462
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 16: a bunch of rookies.

2463
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 7: It's a great quest.

2464
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 8: I mean, look, I think by this point they played

2465
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 8: a lot of football, No question, nobody's played in a

2466
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 8: super Bowl and it's a step up. But I think

2467
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 8: that the confidence this team has, and you know, just

2468
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 8: I think Mike Frabel's ability to get his guys to go.

2469
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 8: I have good confidence that they're gonna come out and

2470
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 8: play pretty well. But you know, it's a grind.

2471
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 7: This is a long game.

2472
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 8: There are lots of ebbs and flows in a Super Bowl,

2473
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 8: and I mean, I don't know if it's just the

2474
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 8: schedule of it all and the timing and the halftime

2475
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 8: and all that stuff, But when we talked a little

2476
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:16,879
Speaker 8: bit about Super Bowl thirty eight, that's the perfect example

2477
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 8: of just a game that was drunk in the second

2478
01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 8: and fourth quarters, and you know, nobody could move the

2479
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 8: ball in.

2480
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 7: The first and third And I just I go back

2481
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 7: to most of.

2482
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 8: The Super Bowls we've watched with the Patriots, they almost

2483
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 8: always come down to the end.

2484
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 7: I think that's more likely the case in this game.

2485
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, you know, when you talk about rookies

2486
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 6: on offense, obviously you talk about Henderson, but and you're

2487
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 6: talking about the left side of the Patriots offensive line.

2488
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 7: But there's also a lot of guys they're not rookies,

2489
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 7: but they've never been in.

2490
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 10: A Super Bowl.

2491
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, and that's no way to know too,

2492
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 12: But that's true for ball teams. I would say there's

2493
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 12: not a ton of Super Bowl experience on either side

2494
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 12: at this point. It's really if you're talking offense, it's

2495
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 12: really just the two linemen like Trayvon Henderson really hasn't

2496
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 12: played played four snaps in.

2497
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 4: The AFC Championship Game.

2498
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 12: Kyle Williams really hasn't played either. Now, it's a big

2499
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 12: the left tackle is a big position. Like, don't get

2500
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 12: me wrong, it's not it's a big spot to have

2501
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 12: a rookie in. But it's not exactly like they have

2502
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 12: six rookies.

2503
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: No, it's the two.

2504
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 9: It's the two rookie offensive lineman, which I think has

2505
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 9: never happened in a Super Bowl. Two rookie starters on

2506
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 9: the offensive line. So yeah, I mean that's significant.

2507
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 7: But I agree with you.

2508
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 1: You know the other guys, you know, they might play

2509
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 1: a little bit in this game, all right, not much.

2510
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 9: So.

2511
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 6: I think we're getting ready for another guest here, and

2512
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 6: this one's an interesting one. We teet him up the

2513
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 6: first day we're here, and uh, we scheduled him in

2514
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 6: because I know a lot of Patriots fans want to

2515
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 6: talk to him. So doctor doctor Chow, thank you again.

2516
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 6: Fred Kirsh Paul Parillo, So, uh, you know him from

2517
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 6: the Internet. I know him from X. You know him

2518
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 6: from IG. We're also is your do you have platforms?

2519
01:57:58,880 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 28: Uh?

2520
01:57:59,400 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 10: The platform?

2521
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 11: And with you guys.

2522
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 10: Look, I'm a former NFL team physician. I do what

2523
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 10: I call the medical Mike Pereira. I don't wish harm

2524
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 10: On Drake may believe or not, I would I didn't

2525
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 10: say that I'm actually a Patriots fan. Like I went

2526
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 10: to school in the Boston area, Okay, Like I have

2527
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 10: friends that are the Patriots.

2528
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 18: I just have a lot of Patriot fan friends. I

2529
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 18: would look Teddy Bruce's one of my guys junior sales.

2530
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 18: But bottom line is it's just injury analysis. It's information

2531
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 18: that's publicly available.

2532
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 10: And the other thing that I would tell Patriots fans is, look, no,

2533
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 10: I'm not examining him, not diagnosing him. It's an injury impression.

2534
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 10: Insider knowledge, not insider information. And remember, and I'll say

2535
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 10: this because of Boston, I'm Paul Revere.

2536
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 9: I'm not the British, right, I just you know, for

2537
01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 9: medical that's a perfect description doctor Chow.

2538
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 6: He watches the games and based on what he sees

2539
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 6: at the video evidence comes up with, you know, a

2540
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 6: guess or an educated guess at what might be going

2541
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 6: on with the player.

2542
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 10: Why did you start doing this? Honestly? The history is this, I,

2543
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 10: for seventeen years as the head team position of the

2544
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 10: San Diego Chargers, saw players on the field, on the sideline,

2545
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 10: in the locker room the next day after an MRI,

2546
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 10: I knew exactly what their diagnosis was. But as you

2547
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 10: guys know, on Monday in an NFL facility, everyone's looking

2548
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 10: at film, coaches, players, whatever players used to players used

2549
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 10: to say to me sometimes, I said, how'd you get hurt?

2550
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 10: I'm not sure. I have to look at film. And

2551
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 10: I usually had about half an hour to kill before

2552
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 10: meeting with the GM, so I felt like I should

2553
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 10: be looking at film.

2554
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 7: What was I looking for?

2555
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:56,080
Speaker 10: I had no idea. I just felt like I wanted

2556
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 10: to be one of the cool kids, right, And so

2557
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 10: I would go in the video. I would would show

2558
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:04,320
Speaker 10: me the coach's sideline, end zone and the TV copy,

2559
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 10: and then I would see exactly what the injury was

2560
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 10: and then how it happened. Then after at Boy Girl

2561
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:13,880
Speaker 10: Twins married, you know, decided I can't do all this

2562
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 10: traveling and stuff anymore. Well, before they went to LA,

2563
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 10: I never went to LA. I'm sitting on my couch

2564
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 10: for the first time, watching a game and my wife's

2565
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 10: and there's a guy who goes down. The announcer says, oh,

2566
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:28,480
Speaker 10: that looked bad, but I think he's okay. He walked off,

2567
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 10: and I said, no, he towards ACL. I'm just talking

2568
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 10: to the TV towards ACL. This season is over.

2569
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 7: And how did you know that?

2570
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 10: By looking at the video and understanding and studying, how

2571
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 10: does Drake may know it's a cover two. That's the

2572
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 10: Mike linebacker, and I'm going to hit Hunter Henry on

2573
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,080
Speaker 10: the slant. I mean, how does he know because he's

2574
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 10: a professional and he's looked at the film a million times. Okay,

2575
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 10: So I said, the guy towards ACL and he's done.

2576
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 10: My wife turned to me very kindly and said, tell

2577
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 10: it to someone who cares, and I said, kindly, Hunt,

2578
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:00,440
Speaker 10: I said, kindly, and she signed me up Twitter. I

2579
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 10: was like, social Media, what is this? I don't even

2580
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 10: know what it is? And fast forward. You know, it's

2581
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:07,680
Speaker 10: sort of gotten legs of its own as more interest

2582
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 10: in fantasy and gambling and injuries and fandom, et cetera.

2583
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 10: And coach Rabel, who I love, by the way, is right?

2584
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 10: Is the Drake may injury situation overblown? It one hundred

2585
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 10: percent is. But it's the Super Bowl and it's your

2586
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 10: starting quarterback with a new injury. I mean, it just

2587
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 10: is what it is.

2588
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's a story, and it's a story.

2589
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:35,400
Speaker 7: So I'm I'm I'm fine with you reporting it. So

2590
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 7: I don't know why you're.

2591
02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 10: No. No, no, Well look Patriots, like I guess, I

2592
02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 10: went to school in Boston here, I had three friends

2593
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 10: call me and said, you're getting killed out here at

2594
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:47,640
Speaker 10: local media and by fans. I'm like for what I did,

2595
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 10: But it's observational reporting, is what it is. I'm just

2596
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 10: reporting what I see. And yes, I do believe he

2597
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 10: has an ac joint spray?

2598
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:57,839
Speaker 7: Is it serious?

2599
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 10: Look? Any injury is It's the Super Bowl? Is he

2600
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 10: gonna play one hundred percent? Right? How well was he

2601
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 10: gonna do?

2602
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 7: Whatever?

2603
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:09,720
Speaker 10: It is the game of football. Everyone has something going on,

2604
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 10: and we'll see like he's gonna make it.

2605
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think I saw you said that his

2606
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 8: deep ball accuracy could possibly be effective by something like this.

2607
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 8: That's concerning because that feels like something he's gonna need

2608
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:20,920
Speaker 8: in this game.

2609
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,160
Speaker 10: Well, that's something that he's been really really good at.

2610
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2611
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 10: No, I'll be very careful here. I didn't say that

2612
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 10: he couldn't throw the deep ball. I'm just saying that

2613
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:31,480
Speaker 10: would be a concern because an ac joint is when

2614
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 10: you follow through. Now, the ac joint isn't even technically

2615
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 10: the shoulder joint. It's around the shoulder, but it's not

2616
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:38,560
Speaker 10: part of the rotator cuff.

2617
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:39,320
Speaker 7: So that's good news.

2618
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 10: It's it's not saying he can't throw the deep ball

2619
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 10: or drive his throws. It's a question that what I

2620
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 10: will be watching for.

2621
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 7: But knowing and.

2622
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 10: Loving Mike Rayball, I anticipate first series he's gonna have him.

2623
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 10: That's that's raybel Man, He's the man.

2624
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:57,960
Speaker 12: I wanted to ask you just sorry, fred I just

2625
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 12: wanted to ask you about driving the ball because one

2626
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 12: of the things.

2627
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:03,360
Speaker 4: You know, I'm the nerd here, so I charged all

2628
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 4: the film.

2629
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 7: And all that stuff.

2630
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 12: And he was short on a number of throws in

2631
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 12: the AFC Championship game that he wouldn't normally be throwing short,

2632
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:14,440
Speaker 12: you know, deep in cuts, things like that that we've

2633
02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 12: seen Drake making his sleep and then we get into

2634
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 12: this game and he was short arming these throws.

2635
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 4: Is that something that could be a byproduct of an

2636
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 4: injury like this?

2637
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 10: Well, the injury happened late in the third quarter. There

2638
02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:29,000
Speaker 10: were only three passes after that. One will drop back

2639
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 10: in a sack, but there were only three passes. The

2640
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 10: next play he gets up, he getting a little bit shoulder,

2641
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:36,840
Speaker 10: gets the huddle, hands the ball off next play and

2642
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 10: then you can see him doing this in the huddle

2643
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 10: and the next play he completes the thirty yard fleet flicker.

2644
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:44,000
Speaker 10: He saw that it wasn't a bullet pass.

2645
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 1: Whatever is a point, not really a follow through with authority,

2646
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 1: but it.

2647
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 10: Was also that's not what was needed either, So right,

2648
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 10: I mean, you got to get it over the top

2649
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 10: and he was open, so he made the good throw.

2650
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 10: His next throw, as you know, was the out and

2651
02:03:57,160 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 10: he dirted it. It was a horrible throw.

2652
02:03:59,520 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 7: Was it win?

2653
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:02,440
Speaker 10: Was it poor grip because of the weather. Was it

2654
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 10: the pressure in his face that he couldn't step in

2655
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:06,040
Speaker 10: the throw? Was it the shoulder?

2656
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:06,640
Speaker 30: Was it?

2657
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 10: It was a little bit of all. Maybe I don't know, right,

2658
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 10: but I can't attribute any of the earlier throws to

2659
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:16,040
Speaker 10: it because it happened late third quarter. And then of course,

2660
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:18,600
Speaker 10: with his back to the goal line, he rolled out

2661
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 10: and threw out a balance you know, just floated one

2662
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 10: out of it.

2663
02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 4: That was it.

2664
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 1: That was all quick, right.

2665
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 9: I just want to you know, so just to give

2666
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:28,400
Speaker 9: you a little more context again your your observational. So

2667
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 9: after you had your your tweet, there was a report

2668
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 9: locally that he's actually been dealing with something with the

2669
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 9: shoulder prior to this game, and whatever happened in Denver

2670
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 9: was like sort of an aggravation of a pre existing injury,

2671
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 9: which goes back to Evans point.

2672
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:48,560
Speaker 1: We thought he was a little off in this game.

2673
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 10: It was just a yeah, Well you can argue he

2674
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 10: was a little off in all the playoffs compared to

2675
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 10: the NBA paratively. Now we have gone back. We saw

2676
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:58,640
Speaker 10: that Phil Perry tweet our staff. You see some of

2677
02:04:58,640 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 10: the guys in the mitchet. So it went back in.

2678
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 10: Looked at all the game film. Probably what you do,

2679
02:05:02,120 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 10: they feed me the relevant stuff, but they scour it all.

2680
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:06,640
Speaker 10: We did not see a play where he got hurt

2681
02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,960
Speaker 10: before that in the season in the playoffs? Could it

2682
02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 10: be cumulative as Drake has im, Look, both can be true.

2683
02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 10: He could have had somewhere and tear and this new

2684
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 10: thing happened on top of it. Of coach Coach Rabel said, Look,

2685
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:22,520
Speaker 10: if he had any shoulder issue, it would have been reported.

2686
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:25,400
Speaker 10: He didn't and he's tried to put it into that. Sure,

2687
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 10: but both can be true. But here's the other thing.

2688
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:31,760
Speaker 10: You want your head coach to be Mike Rabel. You

2689
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,160
Speaker 10: want your head coach to have a little bit of

2690
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 10: coach speak in it. You want him that's what they do.

2691
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 10: That's not a bad thing.

2692
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 4: So I'm not.

2693
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:44,000
Speaker 10: You know, that's part of the gamesmanship of the NFL.

2694
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 10: By the way it goes. I have a question the

2695
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:46,960
Speaker 10: Denver game.

2696
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 6: At the end of the game, May runs for the

2697
02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 6: first down and goes out of bounds and then goes

2698
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:55,400
Speaker 6: down the sideline and when his right arm gives the

2699
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 6: fist pump, did you look at that as any indication like, well,

2700
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 6: maybe it's not so bad because he's.

2701
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 4: You know, he also stiff armed the guy.

2702
02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:06,600
Speaker 10: With those yeah and stiff arm. Look great play call,

2703
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:09,400
Speaker 10: And I didn't believe for one second it was wasn't

2704
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 10: sent in from the sideline. Tom Brady in his second

2705
02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:14,160
Speaker 10: year wentn't audible that call, right? I mean, come on,

2706
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,720
Speaker 10: but the stiff arm. First of all, a c joint

2707
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:21,480
Speaker 10: is more overhead and cross body. Stiff arm probably something

2708
02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 10: that he could do, and he did do it. And also,

2709
02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:25,560
Speaker 10: when you're running for your life and the games online,

2710
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 10: you're gonna do anything. I don't care how much it hurts, right,

2711
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 10: but if it hurts a little bit, how might that

2712
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:34,400
Speaker 10: affect you on a fifty yard downfield pass in the subtleties,

2713
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:37,280
Speaker 10: you're a fist pumping because you're excited. Look, I've said

2714
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 10: before There's four things that gonna happen that are in

2715
02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:44,400
Speaker 10: Drake May's favor to play one medically. Number one, well,

2716
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:47,040
Speaker 10: first and foremost is Jim Whaling and company are gonna

2717
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:49,840
Speaker 10: do a great job, right, that's a given. But the

2718
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 10: four things that are special is I've seen the magical

2719
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,600
Speaker 10: healing powers of the extra week before the Super Bowl, right,

2720
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:58,520
Speaker 10: so he ain't gonna miss. The second thing is there

2721
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,000
Speaker 10: is a drug that he will be on come game

2722
02:07:01,120 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 10: time that all the Patriots and Seahawks players will be

2723
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 10: on that will be extra strength on Sunday Super Bowl Sunday,

2724
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 10: called adrenaline. So he's gonna be ready to go. Yes,

2725
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 10: he may indeed do some vitamin T toward all like

2726
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 10: Sam Donold has been reported to do for his oblique.

2727
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:20,440
Speaker 10: Is it possible to put an injection into the AC

2728
02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 10: joint and play? Yes? Will he do it or not

2729
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:23,480
Speaker 10: do it?

2730
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:24,400
Speaker 7: I don't know.

2731
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 10: That's a decision to him and the team doctors, et cetera.

2732
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:29,880
Speaker 10: But he's gonna be out there and play. I'm gonna

2733
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 10: watch for his deep throw accuracy. I'm gonna fully expect

2734
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 10: that he unloads what early on in the game to

2735
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 10: send the message to complete the ball or what have you.

2736
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 7: Right.

2737
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 8: Want to ask you about another injury on the Patriots roster,

2738
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 8: which is Robert Splaine, who kind of a mis mystery

2739
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:44,520
Speaker 8: to us. We never really saw him get hurt. All

2740
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 8: of a sudden, we noticed his playing time kind of dipping.

2741
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 7: Was out for a while.

2742
02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 8: Seemed like the plan was to get him back for

2743
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 8: the playoffs. He came back, then he got hurt again,

2744
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 8: and he's back out. He said today, one hundred percent

2745
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 8: chance he thinks he's gonna play. Anything you've seen with

2746
02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 8: Robert Splaine.

2747
02:07:57,640 --> 02:07:59,520
Speaker 10: Well without trying to get in trouble. I think what

2748
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 10: got me in trouble. On my podcast two mondays ago,

2749
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 10: as I said, I was more worried about Drake May's

2750
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 10: shoulder than Sam Darnold's oblique because it's already been two

2751
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 10: weeks old, will be four weeks old by the Super Bowl.

2752
02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 10: Drake May's news, so of course you're more worried about it.

2753
02:08:13,720 --> 02:08:17,040
Speaker 10: I'm actually more worried about Robert Splaine's ankle than Drake

2754
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 10: May's shoulder. I hope you take that as good news

2755
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,720
Speaker 10: that I'm optimistic about the shoulder, But why did he

2756
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:23,920
Speaker 10: not come back into the game in Denver. He's a

2757
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 10: great sideline to sideline linebacker. The footing was hard enough

2758
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 10: in the snow, and otherwise you can't put a guy

2759
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:33,080
Speaker 10: out there with an ankle who's already having trouble cutting

2760
02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:35,720
Speaker 10: on a dime on that slippery surface. He's not gonna

2761
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 10: be as effective. Do I think he's gonna play. I

2762
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 10: know he's gonna want to. I think he's gonna be

2763
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:43,760
Speaker 10: medically cleared to play. But it's going to come down

2764
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 10: to a roster decision. Do you need that eighth offensive lineman,

2765
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,880
Speaker 10: do you need that extra special teamer? What percent is

2766
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 10: Plaine at. It's gonna be a decision made by coach

2767
02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:55,840
Speaker 10: Rabel and company. He's gonna say I'm good to go

2768
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:56,440
Speaker 10: and want to play.

2769
02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:56,920
Speaker 30: I know it.

2770
02:08:57,440 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 10: The medical is gonna say it's safe for him to play.

2771
02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 10: A percent is the question, and it will be a

2772
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,400
Speaker 10: mic rable call based on roster management in terms of

2773
02:09:05,480 --> 02:09:07,960
Speaker 10: if he plays or not. Everyone wants to play.

2774
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:08,680
Speaker 7: I hope he does.

2775
02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:11,800
Speaker 10: He's a great linebacker. I hope you know, the adrenaline

2776
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:13,440
Speaker 10: and everything and will take care of it and he

2777
02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:14,320
Speaker 10: does a do a job.

2778
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:17,400
Speaker 6: So I you know, in the Denver game, when he explained,

2779
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 6: finally did come back from the locker room. We see

2780
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:21,840
Speaker 6: him in the locker room with his helmet on, sort

2781
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:24,160
Speaker 6: of going back and forth and testing his ankle.

2782
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:25,200
Speaker 7: Do you look at stuff like that.

2783
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:25,720
Speaker 13: We do.

2784
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:27,840
Speaker 10: We look at anything that's available, right, yeah, and we

2785
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 10: do see that. And when he went to the locker room,

2786
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:35,120
Speaker 10: it's just twitter whatever, but I tweeted out looking at

2787
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 10: the injury, and we did see the left ankle injury

2788
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 10: on video. My team gets me the in game video

2789
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 10: replays it said. I said, even though he's in the

2790
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:44,800
Speaker 10: going to the locker room right now, I believe he

2791
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:47,000
Speaker 10: has a chance to return. Usually when you see a

2792
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,640
Speaker 10: guy go to locker om, he started saying ninety percent

2793
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:49,960
Speaker 10: chance he's not coming back. I think he has a

2794
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:52,880
Speaker 10: chance to return. He came on the sideline. He did return,

2795
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 10: and I did see fans replying to me, he's running.

2796
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 10: Why is he back in the game. Well, what he's

2797
02:09:57,160 --> 02:09:58,920
Speaker 10: doing on the sideline is one tenth of what he

2798
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:01,840
Speaker 10: has to do in a game, especially in snowy conditions,

2799
02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:04,120
Speaker 10: et cetera, in terms of what the game needs.

2800
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:04,400
Speaker 11: Right.

2801
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:06,800
Speaker 6: I felt the same way as you in those conditions.

2802
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 6: If you don't need him to come back in, keep

2803
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 6: him on the sideline.

2804
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:13,320
Speaker 10: But it's not even need him? Is is that is

2805
02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:16,440
Speaker 10: a Robert Blaine with an ankle injury, not being able

2806
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 10: to cut well on a dime on a dry surface

2807
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 10: going to be better than Gibbons on a slick surface, Right,

2808
02:10:21,920 --> 02:10:24,720
Speaker 10: It's it's it's not either or it's. Look, if if

2809
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 10: Gibbons went now, he would have gone back in the game, right,

2810
02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:29,200
Speaker 10: I mean, but when you have him like, okay, what's test?

2811
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 6: That makes sense? One hundred percent? Gibbons is better than yepe.

2812
02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 8: Are there any other injuries on either team that you're

2813
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 8: kind of aware of or monitoring that could have an

2814
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:37,440
Speaker 8: impact on the game.

2815
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:40,280
Speaker 10: One I don't know too much about is Harold Landry's knee.

2816
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 10: Maybe you guys know more about that. I mean, it

2817
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 10: seems like it's a chronic the issue. It kind of

2818
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 10: came out of the blue for the AFC commed.

2819
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 7: Change the game.

2820
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:48,880
Speaker 10: He's Rabel's guy, he's a veteran. Does he have vet knees?

2821
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:49,320
Speaker 10: I don't know.

2822
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:51,560
Speaker 8: I don't know too much about I'll tell you what

2823
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:54,480
Speaker 8: we thought, Yeah, we thought he tore his ACL against

2824
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:55,720
Speaker 8: against New Orleans.

2825
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 10: There was a play where he got hurt play what

2826
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:02,120
Speaker 10: quarter ah, let me know and we'll go look at it.

2827
02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:06,120
Speaker 10: I'm not aware of that the first half. I'll get

2828
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:07,600
Speaker 10: my guys on it and I'll get back to you.

2829
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 9: I came back in the game and continue to play

2830
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 9: throughout the season, but he was not the same player.

2831
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 10: I was not aware of that. So I would love

2832
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:16,920
Speaker 10: to look at that. That would certainly be interesting and helpful.

2833
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:20,680
Speaker 10: And for the Seahawks, you know, Sam Donald, he's gonna play.

2834
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:24,000
Speaker 10: Maybe he still wears a flack jacket, but you can

2835
02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 10: always reaggravate it. Let's say I'm Drake May. We talked

2836
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:28,280
Speaker 10: about deep balls, like. I think he's tough as heck.

2837
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:30,480
Speaker 10: I think he's gonna run and stick his shoulder in

2838
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:32,480
Speaker 10: when he needs to. But when he needs to get down,

2839
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:34,440
Speaker 10: he should get down. But if it's that extra yard

2840
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 10: of the first down, he's gonna stick his shoulder in

2841
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 10: there and take his chances. Sam Donald can always reaggravate

2842
02:11:39,120 --> 02:11:42,040
Speaker 10: the oblique. Charles Cross isn't even practicing at left tackle,

2843
02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:44,920
Speaker 10: but he has no injury designation for the game. The

2844
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:47,839
Speaker 10: Seahawks have been the second healthiest team all season according

2845
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:50,040
Speaker 10: to Our Sports in the re Central Sports First has

2846
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:54,040
Speaker 10: was the Rams okay, okay, and then uh the Patriots.

2847
02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:58,680
Speaker 10: The Patriots were upper upper top ten, you know, five

2848
02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:01,320
Speaker 10: to six. I forget in turn of health throughout this season,

2849
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:02,960
Speaker 10: and we had a few issues here and there, but

2850
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 10: but you know, that's what happens. The healthier team continues

2851
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:08,880
Speaker 10: to survive, and that's part of it, right.

2852
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:12,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, well doctor, we appreciate you coming on.

2853
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 7: Thank you.

2854
02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:14,760
Speaker 6: As soon as we saw you a couple of days, Oh,

2855
02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:17,080
Speaker 6: we have to have him on, and I was like

2856
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:17,840
Speaker 6: friend or foe.

2857
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:22,240
Speaker 10: I'm joking. You guys are very fun and professionally.

2858
02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:24,000
Speaker 4: I was a little bit salty at first.

2859
02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lie because you told me that Drake

2860
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 12: May's shoulder was hurt and I didn't like that. But

2861
02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:32,600
Speaker 12: but I really do appreciate what you do for people

2862
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 12: like me that I you know, we're reporting on the

2863
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 12: team daily because you know, I, I'm not a doctor,

2864
02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:39,440
Speaker 12: so like speculating about if a guy's hurt, and all

2865
02:12:39,480 --> 02:12:40,880
Speaker 12: the fans are wondering is he okay?

2866
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:42,600
Speaker 4: Is he not okay? So it's great to have.

2867
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:44,320
Speaker 10: We got to get together. I gotta get that play.

2868
02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2869
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,880
Speaker 9: It is a great follow on Twitter too, and I

2870
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 9: think you do a great job of putting him in

2871
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 9: Laban's term so we can understand. You know, this is

2872
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:55,680
Speaker 9: what the injury probably is. This is a likely timetable,

2873
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:58,720
Speaker 9: and you are very upfront. This is off of video.

2874
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:02,200
Speaker 10: I'm not and I and I customize it based on

2875
02:13:02,320 --> 02:13:05,280
Speaker 10: the player. Not all high ankle sprains are the same, right,

2876
02:13:05,600 --> 02:13:08,240
Speaker 10: I mean, Spelane is a sideline to sideline guy. That

2877
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:11,440
Speaker 10: ankle of injury is different than on another linebacker. Per se,

2878
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:11,800
Speaker 10: you know.

2879
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 6: All right, Well, thanks a lot, thank you appreciate it.

2880
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:17,400
Speaker 6: Matt will take a break when we come back. More guests,

2881
02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:19,400
Speaker 6: more fun here on Patriots on philm