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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the

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Speaker 1: latest reports from the whitetail woods, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: case Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Retfresh Radio, brought to you by First Like Gear.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host k C. Smith. Guess what dear season

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Speaker 3: is upon us?

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Speaker 2: Excitement is high, However, the hot weather seems to be

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Speaker 2: getting away for a lot of hunters around the country.

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Speaker 3: This is rough Fresh. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: This is rot Fresh Radio, brought to you by FirstLight Gear.

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Speaker 2: This is the show that you remember for having the

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Speaker 2: freshest whitetail information from around the country.

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Speaker 3: We go in to all the nooks and.

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Speaker 2: Crannies of all the whitetail woods and pull out some

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Speaker 2: of the best reports for anyone and everyone who's interested

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Speaker 2: in going out whitetail hunting. I'm your host Casey Smith,

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Speaker 2: joined by Tyler Jones, and also we have got Mark

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Speaker 2: Kenyon on the line of Wired to Hunt Fame. Mark,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: It's good to be here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's we were just talking before we start recording

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Speaker 5: that this might be like season seven or eight or

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Speaker 5: nine of Reugh Fresh.

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Speaker 4: As a mini series of Wired Hunt.

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Speaker 5: I don't know exactly what it is, but it's We've

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Speaker 5: been doing this a long time and I'm very excited

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Speaker 5: that it's still going and that you guys are at

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Speaker 5: the helm helping keep this this part of the ship

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Speaker 5: afloat because this is one of my personal favorite things

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Speaker 5: we do every year. So thanks for being back, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: It's cool getting to talk to people around the country

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Speaker 2: and of course getting to talk to you from time

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Speaker 2: to time to hear the Michigan viewpoint on on things.

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Speaker 2: And I think that was a question I wanted to

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Speaker 2: ask you, thinking about, you know, the history of Retfresh radio.

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Speaker 2: You know, you remark that this is one of your

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Speaker 2: that you can remember where information given on Retfresh directly

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Speaker 5: Hmmm, that's a good question, and off the top of

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Speaker 5: I killed the deer because of it. But it definitely

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear myself. Schever, Joe, I'll take

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Speaker 5: I occasionally do re listen to like really old archival ones,

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Speaker 5: It has like kept me, you know, keeping ideas fresh

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Speaker 5: What's how's that call front impacting you? Or what do

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Speaker 5: So there's a long winded way of saying, I'm excited

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think that hype is a big part

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Speaker 4: Say that too. There a couple of times, Casey where

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Speaker 5: So, right, I love that just you get the color,

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Speaker 5: But then also, you know, I've always found my favorite

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Speaker 2: If people are listening the week this comes out, there

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Speaker 3: The neat thing about whitetail is they're all different.

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Speaker 5: And it's next to college football this time of year.

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Speaker 5: It was okay, but I'm still I'm still I'm still

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Speaker 3: It was you know, there's something to be this.

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Speaker 5: Iired from the Spartans this year, but I'm maintaining hope

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Speaker 3: We'll be They're not sitting in you know, prime territory,

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Speaker 4: So, no, not this year, but we'll good bye on

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Speaker 3: Okay, So how many how many de are you gonna

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Speaker 5: Dude, two is probably realistic. You know, I'd be really

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna kill five, Mark, not to try to

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Speaker 2: You can't do anything, but Mark, I think you're gonna

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Speaker 3: Tyler, five is a good number. That's a good over,

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Speaker 5: You guys, you guys fling them like I believe you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you shoot at shoot at might be like twelve,

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Speaker 2: But if you did listen to Mark's podcast recently, we

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Speaker 5: And uh yeah, I believe in you, Casey. I gotta say,

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Speaker 4: Two of like my big films.

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Speaker 5: So I want to make sure I know what you're

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Speaker 4: Be right up the six seventh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can count those.

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Speaker 5: ready for him.

441
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 4: So so yeah, I think.

442
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 5: We'll get two more across that, and then I am

443
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 5: doing actually more mentor hunts in December, and I'm sure

444
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 5: we're gonna kill a dough or two during that thing,

445
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 5: so you know, and.

446
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 4: If we're including does, I'm going to kill at least

447
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 4: two to four dos.

448
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 5: So let's give me my two bucks, my four does,

449
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 5: and my three mentees. So now we're talking nine. So

450
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 5: I'm claiming credit for nine this year.

451
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 3: Let's go to I'm all about it.

452
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, there we go.

453
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so guiding your dad, what kind of fee you're

454
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 3: getting for that or is that just uh, that's.

455
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 4: Just like I'll get a better Christmas present maybe this.

456
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 3: Year, probably a fly rod or something.

457
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the basic good ask.

458
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 3: For I hear the White River fly rods are the

459
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,239
Speaker 3: way to go, man. I don't know if you've ever

460
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: seen that ticket. Yeah, just check them out.

461
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 4: I will.

462
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: It's it's good stuff anyway. This week, so we're going

463
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 3: to talk to you, uh and get some reports from

464
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 3: you throughout the season from different states. So I'm pretty

465
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 3: excited about that because you obviously have a lot of

466
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: different things going on this year, and you're gonna see

467
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: a lot of deer hunting, a lot of deer, a

468
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 3: lot of deer woods. But this week, uh, in particular,

469
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 3: there's only so many states open. So we've got Alex

470
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 3: comstock from North Dakota. Mark has them from South Carolina,

471
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: which is a muggy place to be right now. I'm sure. Uh,

472
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 3: Chad Rye from Tennessee and Reed Struggle from Kentucky a

473
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: good buddy of ours. So uh, that's kind of what

474
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: we're going to look at this week, and we're gonna

475
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: switch it around and get some different reports next week.

476
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 3: You'll be moving pretty quick into different states. So I'm

477
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: really looking forward being that I'm not I don't have

478
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: an early season or at early September hunt this year

479
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 3: for white tails, and really it's going to be making

480
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: me itch, if you know what I.

481
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 5: Mean, I do, You're going to be You're gonna be

482
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 5: struggling these next couple of weeks while you're hearing all

483
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 5: this deer hunside.

484
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 4: I already feel bad that I'm not out.

485
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 5: There for like that September one. I can't imagine having

486
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 5: to wait till the end of the one.

487
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: Well, next year, we're taking you, no matter what. It

488
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: sounds like a plan. I'm excited.

489
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, cool, dude.

490
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: Well, let's hear the reports from the guys around the

491
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 2: country and Mark, we'll talk to you in a couple

492
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: of weeks.

493
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 4: Sounds good.

494
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: On the phone, I've got Mark Haslam. He is in

495
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: South Carolina. I've been hunting some deer mark what's happening, dude?

496
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 6: Now much just just went through a hurricane. So that's

497
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 6: past and I'm back in the woods trying to get

498
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 6: over some Bucks.

499
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 4: That's cool.

500
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: Does that hurricane effect kind of just what goes on

501
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 2: normally there? Like, is that going to change the way

502
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: to react?

503
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: Well?

504
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: What it did was it It pretty.

505
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 6: Much came through all day yesterday and so the day before,

506
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 6: they were the evening before, in the morning of in

507
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 6: the morning after, they were hunker down pretty tight. So

508
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 6: I'm hoping that these next couple of days we've got

509
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 6: some cool attempts that should be out feeding pretty hard.

510
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. So what have you been doing to Target?

511
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: But y'all have a really early season, right, so you've

512
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: been hunting for a little while, that's right.

513
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

514
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 6: We opened in the lower half South Carolina August fifteenth,

515
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 6: and this Bucks only, so we have to we legally

516
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 6: have to hart target Bucks this time of year until

517
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 6: September fifteenth. So what I'm doing is either king king

518
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 6: in on destination food sources in the evenings, I'll get

519
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 6: close to them, not on them, but just a little

520
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 6: bit off trying to catch them, trying to cut them

521
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 6: off in the mornings.

522
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: I will.

523
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 6: Clam usually right outside of some bedding and trying to

524
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 6: catch them coming back into bed.

525
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: Are there any native or natural at least food sources

526
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: that you're can in on it all right now?

527
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

528
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 6: We we've we've gotten so much rain in the south

529
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 6: this summer that uh, and it's it's still rolling through

530
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 6: with this hurricane. So really, any if someone has any

531
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 6: kind of early successional growth, you know, rag weed, uh, briars,

532
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 6: black bears, any anything like that, just walk through it,

533
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 6: take a look at it and see if it's any

534
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 6: kind of you know, snippers there with any kind of brow. So, yeah,

535
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 6: it's uh, the via right now, they are absolutely hitting ag.

536
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 6: But a lot of our corn is being harvested right now.

537
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 6: So if if if they were going to corny, they're

538
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 6: probably shifting over to peanuts or soybeans like that.

539
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: Okay, So, and I'm guessing some of that early successional

540
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: growth there's going to be probably betting in those areas too,

541
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: some huh, So I would I would suppose since you

542
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: said you're hunting mornings near betting, you're kind of you're

543
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 3: kind of catching them maybe browsing before they get back

544
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: to bed and then close to bed there are you

545
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: able to pretty consistently get in before they're in those

546
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: areas in the morning.

547
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm trying to get in and get

548
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 6: set up, like thirty forty five minutes before first light.

549
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 6: But what I found is that a lot of time

550
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 6: Bucks they will linger a little bit longer rather than

551
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 6: like go groups this time of the year do groups.

552
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 6: So a lot of times be the first back into

553
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 6: bed and bucks will kind of linger around. But if

554
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 6: you have some some thin and open pines or some

555
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 6: timber that's been burned or has some early successional growth,

556
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 6: you've got for them to kind of linger through, you know,

557
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 6: finish up, finish up browsing before they go back to bed.

558
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 6: If you've got some stands that are wide open with

559
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 6: very little and you can just kind of see right

560
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 6: through it, they're gonna be probably starting through those pretty quickly.

561
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: It last light, gotcha.

562
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: So with the hurricane moving through in Velvet starting to

563
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: come off around the country. Uh, on a scale of

564
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: one to ten, what do you predict buck movement to

565
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: be like over the next week.

566
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna probably remain how it has been

567
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 6: about maybe a six or seven, you know, not really

568
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 6: they're still in that summer yeah, I mean they're still

569
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 6: in that summer pattern of just bedding and eating, and

570
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 6: that's really all they're doing. Every day on my on

571
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 6: my cell cams, I'm getting like a.

572
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: New buck every day.

573
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: That's us shut us velvet.

574
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 6: So we're probably we're definitely more than half half our

575
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 6: bucks have been shed shed a velvet. So there's still

576
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 6: with some peered up in battler groups, and pretty soon

577
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 6: they're gonna start shifting into that next you know, pre

578
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 6: right phase.

579
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, exciting time of year, man, delvit comes off. You

580
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: actually know what you got and I can look forward

581
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: to some good days to come.

582
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: Mark.

583
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 6: We thanks, thank you for the report, dude, absolutely thanks

584
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 6: for having me on.

585
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: Awesome.

586
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: All right on the phone now, I've got Chad Rice

587
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 3: from Cruiser Saddles. Chad, what's been going on?

588
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: Man?

589
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 7: Oh, not a lot, man, Just trying to stay in

590
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 7: some ac and beat this heat in Phennessee right now.

591
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. See, yeah, it's hot, but you know, ain't Texas

592
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: hot or nothing down there. We know what it's like

593
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 3: up there. I mean, it's y'all got that y'all got

594
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 3: that dry heat.

595
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 7: We got that wet steam heat.

596
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like we're closer than golfs

597
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: than y'all are, but who knows.

598
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 6: I don't know.

599
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: The it is dry right now. I can tell you that.

600
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't walk with it kicking up a

601
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: dust storm where we're at. We need rain bad, but

602
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: I know it. Man. So you've been out hunting a

603
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: little bit. You guys have really early season, or at

604
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: least it starts pretty early and have a chance to

605
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: get velvet. In fact, one of our buddies, Hunter went

606
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: up there and made a video with you last year

607
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 3: on a velvet buck. But you've been out doing the thing. Man,

608
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: What have you been keen on on what you've been seeing?

609
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 7: Yeah? Man, So Tennessee's got an early velvet seasons just

610
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 7: three days long there. It was last weekend and unfortunately

611
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 7: we had a heat wave and the average temp all

612
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 7: weekend was probably like between ninety five.

613
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: And one hundred degrees. So that's hot.

614
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we hunted. Me and the guys in

615
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 7: the shop there. We hunted all weekend and not much

616
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 7: to speak for. It was just, you know, super hot.

617
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 7: We were having deer on camera the week before and

618
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 7: then this heat wave came.

619
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 4: Through and pretty much shut them down.

620
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: Man, So were they still showing because you've been sending

621
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: me those pictures. Have they been showing up like after

622
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: dark now or did they just change their patterns or

623
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: what do you think?

624
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 7: You know, I feel like they just changed their patterns.

625
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: You know, where we were.

626
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 7: Hunting them at and where we're getting them on camera

627
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 7: was on top of these ridges and stuff, and there's

628
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 7: not much water up here, and we're pretty close to

629
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 7: the lake where we're hunting. So I feel like they

630
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 7: dropped down in these cool draws and kind of hung

631
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 7: out by some water.

632
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: So if you were gonna so target Bucks like right now,

633
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: would you still say like water is the key?

634
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: I would say water is a big factor right now.

635
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 3: For sure. It is.

636
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 7: Like I said, it's super hot, it's cool to off

637
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 7: since last weekend, but it's still average like eighty five

638
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 7: to ninety degree days.

639
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: So water I think is a big factor right now. Yeah,

640
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: So what do you think.

641
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Buck movement looks like going forward for like the next

642
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: week and we're looking at still more of that just

643
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: you know, not time movement waiting on some cooler camps.

644
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, from what I'm seeing on camera, we're getting

645
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 7: a lot of nocturnal movement, a lot of bucks moving

646
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 7: that night. And you know, we don't we can't hunt

647
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 7: again until the end of September. But you know, if

648
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 7: you're in Kentucky or anywhere else that opens early, I

649
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 7: would I would definitely say water, try to try to

650
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 7: maybe get close to bedding, and.

651
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's your best bet.

652
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: I think right now, what do you think the movement

653
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: is on a scale of one to ten for bucks.

654
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 7: M probably probably around a five, I would say, I wouldn't.

655
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: I would say it's.

656
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 7: Even lower during the day, maybe early morning hours, late evening.

657
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 7: They're still gonna move a little bit. But uh, you know,

658
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 7: like I said, movement on our cameras has been it's

659
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 7: definitely slowed down quite a bit.

660
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you a good cold front this time

661
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: of year and do a lot, But if you don't

662
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: get that, man, it's uh, it can be a tough

663
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: time of year, you know, so absolutely, you know, depending

664
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: on where you're at in the country and what hurricanes

665
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: are happening or whatever else. That's kind of the main

666
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: the main thing that can adjust your climate. And make

667
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: for a better hunt. So, uh, Chad, I appreciate your friendship.

668
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: I appreciate you doing this with us this week, and

669
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll get you back on when the rut is

670
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: kicking or something like that.

671
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 7: Again, absolutely, boys, I appreciate it as always.

672
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: All right, now on the phone, I've got Red Struggle.

673
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: He's been out in Kentucky doing a little hunting public land.

674
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: Got some private land stuff going to I guess in

675
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: the area. Man, what has been going on?

676
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 9: How's it going, y'all? It's uh, it's hot, it's hot,

677
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 9: and uh, we're waiting on we're waiting on a card fronts.

678
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 9: That warm weather from down south has made it up somewhere.

679
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been slipping around. Wait, we've been sending it

680
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: y'all's way all summer. I don't know why it hasn't left,

681
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: but you know, maybe it's just like you know, it's

682
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: like a fire man. You know. Once the hotter it gets,

683
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: the more you can feel it from distance, you know.

684
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: So that's what you are getting right now as from Yeah,

685
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: so you've you did some hunting this weekend in Kentucky? Man,

686
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: what was it like?

687
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 9: Yeah?

688
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes?

689
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 9: Or so the opener partnered up with a buddy. We

690
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 9: decided for some reason to go a mile in on

691
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 9: public into a semi new area. We knew it from

692
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 9: turkey hunting, but uh, didn't have much luck. It's it's

693
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 9: it's been warm. So opener was on Saturday. Thursday, we

694
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 9: had a south wind roll in bringing warm weather. The

695
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 9: wind switched to an east Friday, which would have been

696
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 9: awesome to hunt, but Saturday it was hot south when

697
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 9: not much going on, real humid, you know, high of

698
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 9: in the mid eighties that day. Low in this you know,

699
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 9: mid sixties in the morning, which was nice, but it

700
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 9: wound up quick, so had no luck there and had deer.

701
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 9: We blew one out early. You know, this time of

702
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 9: year is so.

703
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: Tough on that morning hunt. So that's uh, it's.

704
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 9: Kind of what we ran into on the public.

705
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what are you actually targeting? You you trying to

706
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: go in and find some food sources or are you

707
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: going to bed in areas?

708
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: Like why'd you go that far into the woods?

709
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

710
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 9: So the goal was actually on that area to get

711
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 9: close to private. There's a couple of ridgetops up there

712
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 9: and we had water just basically on the other side

713
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 9: of the ridge from us. So we're trying to get

714
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 9: them gone from the private seat. Hit some ag, hit

715
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 9: that water source, go to bed, and I think we

716
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 9: kind of bumped some out getting in there early because

717
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 9: that one frock came came in. But they're on the

718
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 9: acorn started dropping. They're not raining yet.

719
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 10: I haven't found any you know hot real hot oaks,

720
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 10: one of those Warren Womac you know feed trees, but

721
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 10: we are looking for them because that's there.

722
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: They're going to be on those acuns.

723
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: Here for sure. So you know, you as far as

724
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: like what your the patterns you're hunting right now and

725
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: what you're going to be going in hunting the future.

726
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: Is there going to be a change here like in

727
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: the next week as to what you're gonna be hunting

728
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: over or is it the same? Yeah?

729
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 9: So similar On the private, things change a little bit.

730
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 9: We are allowed to have the mineral sites and feed

731
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 9: in Kentucky, So on my private I've got some feed

732
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 9: out and uh on my cameras. When we have those

733
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 9: north wind days, I've got my cameras lighting up quite

734
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 9: a bit. I actually went in hunted the haunted the

735
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 9: private the next day on a hard south wind and it.

736
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: It was tough.

737
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 9: It ended up kind of being the slack wind. There

738
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 9: was not much going on at all. Thermals were all.

739
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 9: It was just swirly.

740
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: It was no good.

741
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 9: You know, I saw a young bachelor group on the

742
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 9: way out. You know, they're still hanging around. But I've

743
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 9: got some deer and hardhorn already on camera, have some

744
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 9: in velvet. It seems the more mature bucks are starting

745
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 9: to split out of their bachelor groups. But my target

746
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 9: going forward is still gonna be based around ag and

747
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 9: trying to find a hot feed tree, because that's you know,

748
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 9: I think where those mature bucks are gonna be.

749
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, that's sounds like an encouraging week coming up.

750
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: So that's good.

751
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: If you had to predict the buck movement on a

752
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: scale of one to ten for the upcoming week, what

753
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: would you give it.

754
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, So Wednesday, I've got a nice thunderstorm afternoon coming.

755
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 9: It's gonna switch to a north wind. We're dropping down

756
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 9: into degrees. It's gonna get down to the seventies. We've

757
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 9: got some knots in the fifties coming up this weekend,

758
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 9: big north wind. So I think this upcoming weekend is

759
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 9: going to be killer Friday, Saturday, Sunday is gonna be

760
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 9: really good. I would say movement wise, it's gonna be

761
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 9: you know, probably like a six or seven. Just because

762
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 9: of that switch we're going from the south wind hot

763
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 9: it's gonna change. I think, really it's gonna be pretty good.

764
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 9: I got a high hope for this weekend.

765
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Man, September cold fronts can be deadly. Man.

766
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: I think I've seen in the past where you know,

767
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: people have really done well on those things. So that's

768
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: that's a hopeful and optimistic prediction there, man. And I'm

769
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: very glad that you, uh you gave it to us.

770
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: I appreciate your time today read and uh, I hope

771
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: you have a killer week next week, man, of course.

772
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 9: Appreciate y'all. Hopefully we'll get one on the get one

773
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 9: on the ground. I'm trying to kill my first year

774
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 9: with a traditional bow, all right, So we're we're we're

775
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 9: getting after any of them. They all better duck fast,

776
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 9: you know.

777
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 7: But we are, we are.

778
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: It should be good, so I appreciate it. Good providence,

779
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: young man. All right on the phone, now, I've got

780
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: Alex Comstock from Whitetail DNA. What's going on, man, how

781
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: much are you guys doing? Doing pretty good? It's a

782
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: it's a fairly cool day here. It might even be

783
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 3: hotter where you're at than it is here in Texas.

784
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: Today we've got some rain and a cool a little

785
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: cool front. So ninety three here, what are you looking at?

786
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 11: Oh you might have us beat today. We're at eighty

787
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 11: eight right now. But it's cooler today than it's been

788
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 11: the last handful of days.

789
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well that's cool man. So with h with

790
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: the last few days being hot and then now a

791
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: colder day, what's what's the movement been like? Yeah, so

792
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: far it's been pretty bad.

793
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 5: I'd give it.

794
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 11: I don't know, like a's three out of ten, it's

795
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 11: been h. We've had quite a few guys in camp,

796
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 11: so you've been able to cover quite a few different areas,

797
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 11: and we're spread out from probably the furthest furthert people

798
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 11: away from each other, probably an hour and a half away,

799
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 11: Like we're covering ground. But we had one guy killed

800
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 11: last night, two people shot bucks, So I mean starting

801
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 11: to pick up a little bit.

802
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: Which is nice.

803
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: That's cool man.

804
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: So if you're hunting early season top patterns, does the

805
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: heat almost increase the efficiency on that, or would you

806
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: like to see the cooler weather come in.

807
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 11: I mean, there's probably no world in which I prefer

808
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 11: one hundred degree temps. Yeah, I've taken the cooler temps

809
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 11: every day of the week. I mean, you know, it's funny.

810
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 11: Last year out here opening week, we had a huge

811
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 11: cold snap right at the beginning of season, and I

812
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 11: think it actually the movement kind of shut off. And

813
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 11: then this year we had a huge heat wave, and

814
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 11: I just wanted it to be consistent temperatures to keep

815
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 11: these bucks on their patterns. But I just can't seem

816
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 11: to catch your break with the weather, I guess.

817
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 9: Yeah.

818
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: So, do you have anything that you feel like is

819
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: kind of patterned right now?

820
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 9: You know, I've got one buck.

821
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 11: I mean, there's a couple bucks that we've got daylighting

822
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 11: every so often. The one buck probably a three or

823
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 11: four year old ten pointer that's daylighted three of the

824
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 11: last four nights in the last hour, and so he's

825
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 11: also been there a bunch in the middle of the night.

826
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 11: And so I'm hoping with the cold front that's upcoming

827
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 11: in the next couple of days here that he shows

828
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 11: up and I can can lays an arrow throw them.

829
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: What kind of pattern is he on?

830
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 11: So he's coming out of a standing cornfield into the

831
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 11: edge of a of a bean field.

832
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: With some oaks around, dropping a corns pretty much.

833
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds picturesque, that does, man? That's that standing

834
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: corn is always tricky for me. Man, I don't. I

835
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: don't love being around it much because you have deer

836
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: that'll bet in it, and you have deer that'll feed

837
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 3: in it, and if there's a pivot there, they water

838
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: in it. So it can get real tricky sometimes to

839
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: figure out the movement patterns. You know, it's tough.

840
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 11: I mean, I had a one of my top shooters

841
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 11: after the other day and it's right along the edge

842
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 11: of a standing cornfield, and I had one deer I

843
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 11: could just hear slowly moving through the corn and I

844
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 11: just had that gut feeling of this, but never got

845
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 11: to see what deer was, never shown himself.

846
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 4: That hurts.

847
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: So when you're in North Dakota, the days are pretty

848
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: long still this time of year. What time do you

849
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: have to leave your stand to go play a complete eighteen?

850
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: And then what time do you have to be back

851
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: in your stand for the evening?

852
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: Hunt? Well, we only did nine. Oh gotcha. There was

853
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: a little bit of seriousness that question.

854
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny that you're getting some golf, and

855
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, but you know, in all seriousness, like

856
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: you don't want to go to the stand and just

857
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: sweat your tail off all day. What time are you

858
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: getting in there for an evening hunt?

859
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're not, like we're gonna leave today maybe four

860
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 11: four thirty. By the time we're in and setting ready

861
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 11: to rock, it's about five thirty and sunsets at like

862
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 11: eight fifteen. So it so we're getting I mean, most

863
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 11: of these deer, if they're hitting on camera in daylight,

864
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 11: it's typically in the last I mean, shoot fifteen to

865
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 11: twenty minutes.

866
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: We really don't have I mean.

867
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 11: But in contrary, you know which kind of contradictions what

868
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 11: I'm saying, both guys at shot Bucks last night killed

869
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 11: or shot Bucks at like seven and seven fifteen, so

870
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 11: a full hour before sunset.

871
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: So going forward with the weather change that just happened

872
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: or any other factors you may have, or are you

873
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 3: gonna focus on the same same patterns that have been

874
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: you've been seeing on cameras or in you're scouting or

875
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: are you gonna change things up.

876
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 11: We're gonna stick with it and just essentially hope that

877
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 11: uh this you know we're going from. It was one

878
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 11: hundred and like two yesterday, whereas tomorrow the highs I

879
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Speaker 11: think sixty four. So we're just gonna hope that that

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Speaker 11: gets those deer up moving a little bit earlier and

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Speaker 11: kind of hunt the scene patterns essentially.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well that with that being said, if you're gonna rate

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Speaker 2: the Butt movie going forward this week from a scale

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Speaker 2: of one to ten, what would it be.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give her.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna give her a six.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna I'm trying to get I'm trying to get

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Speaker 11: over a five, and uh if it's a six, I'm

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Speaker 11: gonna be a happy campus.

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Speaker 4: Put it that way.

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Speaker 3: Nice dude.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, I know that you have a lot of

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Speaker 2: history up there in North Dakota and you kind of

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Speaker 2: got it figured out. So I'm rooting for you. I

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Speaker 2: hope you have a really good hunt this evening. Man, Hey,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Hopefully I'm hoping the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to the Retfresh Radio Report. You can

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Speaker 3: hear more up to date information from Casey and myself

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Speaker 3: not familiar with it. We also do a weekly update

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Speaker 3: on what's going on in our life, plus you know,

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Speaker 3: anything else that we want to visit, so case what

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Speaker 3: else we got.

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Speaker 2: This also marks Big Nebraska Bug Week on one week

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Speaker 2: in November. Day two of one week comes out this week,

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Speaker 2: so go check that out. We put a link in

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Speaker 2: the description for that, and thank y'all so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate the support and.

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