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Speaker 2: It's big news, bro, It's really not. I don't think
Speaker 2: it is. Is it off the air? Rich is trying
Speaker 2: to convince me that it's huge news that Katie Perry's
Speaker 2: now out of space. I mean, congrats, I'm glad they
Speaker 2: had a great time. The big news, like, is it
Speaker 2: really It was kind of wild to see, but big news.
Speaker 2: I didn't hear anybody talk about this.
Speaker 3: It would be bigger news if she put weight back on,
Speaker 3: because she's one of those Was it ozempic I'm not sure,
Speaker 3: but she was.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like with with weight on, she had nice
Speaker 3: curves and was like a really attractive female. She couldn't
Speaker 3: even gain more weight. I would have fed her more cheeseburgers.
Speaker 3: She's so skinny right now. And that's Danny g everyone
Speaker 3: tim No, but that's the opposite of what I can't say.
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Speaker 4: Ken Spot biggest beautifull.
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Speaker 2: the East on our regular Monday to Friday show and
Speaker 2: again play along home at Covino and Rich. I'm Steve Cavino.
Speaker 2: That's Rich Davis, our buddy Mark's hanging out. Thank you
Speaker 2: guys for hanging out with us. Now we are giving
Speaker 2: away prizes, so stick around. We're gonna play some games today.
Speaker 2: We got to talk about Lebron and other things that
Speaker 2: were in the news this weekend. But the Masters, everybody's
Speaker 2: talking about it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: On a personal note, Yeah, I see myself golfing in
Speaker 2: the future, just not right now. I see you Mini golfing.
Speaker 2: I mean I am pretty good. You know, Mini Golfing's
Speaker 2: wore my speed. To be honest, you ever let your
Speaker 2: daughter or girlfriend beat you at minnigaff Ever, No, Bill's character.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta play your heart out every time.
Speaker 2: So Page Sprannick, who's been on the show, made a post.
Speaker 2: She's a delight. She is a delight. She was great
Speaker 2: hot take. But I wish all sporting events banned phones.
Speaker 2: It was so special to see everyone enjoying the moment
Speaker 2: and being present. And I have to say I had
Speaker 2: a similar experience over the weekend before we went to
Speaker 2: Sacramento to watch the Mets in the A's. We had
Speaker 2: a great weekend.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 2: You could see it at Covino and Rich We did
Speaker 2: the Bushwhackers on Friday night. It was my buddy Jose's party. Now,
Speaker 2: if you listen to Series six M, Jose Mangen is
Speaker 2: the heavy metal Ambassador of Series six M. So at
Speaker 2: his birthday party? Is that on his business card? Ambassador? No? Seriously, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like you know where you're says radio tycoon. He says
Speaker 2: heavy metal ambassador. No, what did you call me before
Speaker 2: the pop Princess? Yes, I knew Katie Perry was in
Speaker 2: out of space. Anyway, go back to so Jose, who's
Speaker 2: a rock host. You know we're radio friends throughout the years.
Speaker 2: It was his birthday party. But he had the band
Speaker 2: machine Head playing at his birthday party. Now, I'm not
Speaker 2: the biggest machine Head fan, but they've been around forever.
Speaker 2: That's way cooler that when you had a magician at
Speaker 2: your birth Way better than Captain Crossbones. So hey, pick
Speaker 2: a card, kids, Yeah, way better than when Magic Mark
Speaker 2: was there. And I'm at the event for my buddy's birthday.
Speaker 2: This is Friday night in Los Angeles, actually in Seal Beach.
Speaker 2: And when I got to the event, they're like, all right,
Speaker 2: give us your phones, Like, give you, give you my phone.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of stuff that I
Speaker 2: don't want anyone to know about it on this phone.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna hand it over my phone and you stranger. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know they put them in these little packets.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys have been to an event, if
Speaker 2: not for any sort of major event or where it's
Speaker 2: private or whatever, they don't want you to have phones.
Speaker 2: They take your phones. Movie screenings do that a lot, Yeah,
Speaker 2: movie screenings. They did it on the White Lotus this
Speaker 2: season season three, so that people can enjoy their time
Speaker 2: on vacation. They put them in protective packets, little cases,
Speaker 2: and they're like, we'll give them to you later. I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, cool, can I tell you rich It was
Speaker 2: like a throwback of awesome cause you're in the moment.
Speaker 2: You know what I enjoyed, machine Head, You know what
Speaker 2: I enjoyed their performance. You know, I enjoyed talking to
Speaker 2: people and having conversations and fun and friends and like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is what we used to do, right, like talk
Speaker 2: and interact. And that's kind of what you saw at
Speaker 2: the Masters this weekend when people were really in the
Speaker 2: moment watching McElroy win. You're forced to be the old social,
Speaker 2: not reliant on your phone version of yourself. So what
Speaker 2: do you think about the at all sporting events. I
Speaker 2: think it's fantastic. I think that's a good I really do.
Speaker 2: It's it's impossible to really make happen, but man, it
Speaker 2: would be awesome if they could. It's impossible. You're not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to check fifty thousand phones at a
Speaker 2: football stadium, and you can be able to check you
Speaker 2: can check yourself, or you could wreck yourself because.
Speaker 3: What if you have a babysitter at home with your toddler.
Speaker 3: Though I know there's always a cute, you don't need.
Speaker 4: Your phones for emergencies.
Speaker 5: Danny g I'm glad you brought that up, because that
Speaker 5: really is the only thing that irks me.
Speaker 2: We're all, you know, dads. Most of us here are
Speaker 2: are dads where we have little kids. In an emergency,
Speaker 2: you never know you want that. But again, what did
Speaker 2: our dads do? They survived. We didn't know where the
Speaker 2: hell they were.
Speaker 4: Guess when the well they left for packs of cigarettes.
Speaker 2: Let's just say, guess when the dinner happens. Dinner happened
Speaker 2: when dad got home, and you had no clue when
Speaker 2: dad was coming home, when dad got home from the
Speaker 2: nudie bar. Yeah, knows where dad was. We didn't know.
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Speaker 2: That's Covino and Rich. I'm watching the highlights of Tony's
Speaker 2: home run last night. Then he hit another one. Here's
Speaker 2: your daughter on TV cheering. Oh she's holding a sign
Speaker 2: I hate my dad. Boy, she is holding another sign
Speaker 2: my dad stinks and so do the Mets, and so
Speaker 2: do the Mets. Wow. Hey, it's Cavino and Rich in
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Speaker 2: Plus what type of vacation person are you? A lot
Speaker 2: a lot of fun in randomness, but here's where we
Speaker 2: start today. My daughter goes to the Dodgers game last
Speaker 2: night with her little girlfriends, her little galpals, my daughter seven,
Speaker 2: and one of the moms is like, we're taking the
Speaker 2: girls because it's Hello Kitty night, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you could bring my daughter.
Speaker 4: Thank you for the invite.
Speaker 2: My daughter comes home last night with a Hello Kitty
Speaker 2: Dodgers stuffy, a Dodger's hat and a little helmet and
Speaker 2: she's like, Dad, I think I like the Dodgers, but
Speaker 2: I mean a roof of the Mets if they play
Speaker 2: each other, and I'm like, oh, she's just saying that
Speaker 2: because she doesn't want.
Speaker 4: To crush me.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here, man, because first and
Speaker 2: first mostly as we say here on the show, important
Speaker 2: is the fun that she had. Okay, so let's be
Speaker 2: real about it. Let's go Dodgers, man. They're just rubbing
Speaker 2: it into Dad's face. Dad's a lifelong Mets guy. And again,
Speaker 2: these are your roots and you got to be proud
Speaker 2: of them. We're out here alone in Los Angeles, but
Speaker 2: live in La who he do so.
Speaker 4: Here? That's the thing.
Speaker 2: My daughter has never been to City Field, and this
Speaker 2: summer when we go visit New York family, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take her for the first time. We live in La
Speaker 2: am I doing her a disservice by being like, no,
Speaker 2: we're much fair.
Speaker 5: There's so many ways to look at it. I'm the
Speaker 5: dad of teenage daughter. She doesn't give a Diddley squad
Speaker 5: about baseball. Meanwhile, her dad's like obsessed with baseball and
Speaker 5: the Yankees.
Speaker 2: Right, so you do your best to influence your kids. However,
Speaker 2: I bond over music and other things with my daughter, right.
Speaker 2: I think you have a duty as a parent, not
Speaker 2: just as a dad, as a parent to say the
Speaker 2: right things and to do your part. But then they're
Speaker 2: gonna make their own choices anyway. And you learn that
Speaker 2: as time goes on, and about everything like political views,
Speaker 2: ways of life, any sort of thing that you think,
Speaker 2: you feel it's your job. It could be as simple as, hey,
Speaker 2: they notice, stay safe and put on their seatbelt. But
Speaker 2: it's your job as your dad, as a dad, or
Speaker 2: as a parent to remind him, hey, put your seatbelt on.
Speaker 2: I know that, I know, but I'm just doing my job.
Speaker 2: It's kind of your job to be like, remember, we
Speaker 2: root for the Mets. If they make their own decisions
Speaker 2: and she becomes a Dodgers fan, you know that's that's fine.
Speaker 5: They're gonna make their own decisions. But you still have
Speaker 5: to do your part. That's my point. You also have
Speaker 5: to about, yeah, I guess she's no, we're Dodgers fans,
Speaker 5: and you'd say what a smile because you're not going
Speaker 5: to force her to think what you think.
Speaker 2: But you got to remind her we're Dodgers fan. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're Mets fans. See now you're you're confused with me.
Speaker 2: So your calls, your feedback phones are all lit. Every
Speaker 2: single line. So when your kid chooses a different team,
Speaker 2: let's go rapid fire, or as we like to say,
Speaker 2: throw it back to the nineties cross fire. We get
Speaker 2: caught up in there. You know you never had that,
Speaker 2: while I never had it, but I'm very well aware
Speaker 2: of it. That means you got to be snappy. This
Speaker 2: go through all the phone calls me seven seven ninety
Speaker 2: nine on Fox Pennsylvania. Mio, what's going on?
Speaker 6: Hey? Thank you? First time, long time.
Speaker 7: I love the Cowboys. I grew up Cowboys fan.
Speaker 6: I bak I hate everything Philadelphia sports. Oh yeah, my
Speaker 6: son has been influenced by his cousins and his cousin's
Speaker 6: family and now came up to me and said, Dad,
Speaker 6: I love the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, you know I love and hate that
Speaker 2: story all once for me. Yeah, but you also have
Speaker 2: to teach again, try again your part, right, You can't
Speaker 2: control of your kid and you want them to be
Speaker 2: free thinkers and be proud of their choices. But you
Speaker 2: have to.
Speaker 5: Teach them, or at least try to teach and preach
Speaker 5: to them that no, we don't fall into peer pressure.
Speaker 2: You know, have a backbone. This is who we are
Speaker 2: and that's just what we do you gotta just do
Speaker 2: your part, like you said, heartbreak, Like you said, there's
Speaker 2: times in life where you you do lose control of
Speaker 2: your kids. And the example he gave was how many
Speaker 2: times does a kid them back from college and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden they were like a liberal hippie and
Speaker 2: their parents like what happened.
Speaker 4: All that time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, our parents felt the same way about us. Dave
Speaker 2: in Colorado, what's up, Dave?
Speaker 4: Hey, Dave, what's up?
Speaker 7: Guys, thanks for taking the.
Speaker 2: Call, No problem, thank.
Speaker 7: You, yoh man. I got a I guess a quick admission.
Speaker 7: I'm a I grew up in Detroit, so we attended
Speaker 7: all all like old school Pistons games and Tigers games
Speaker 7: when you could find tickets on the ground walk right in.
Speaker 7: So by default I was kind of a Detroite sports fan.
Speaker 7: But I've been in Colorado twenty I don't know, over
Speaker 7: twenty years now, and my rear end kicked in at
Speaker 7: an Avalanche game wearing some some red Wings gear when
Speaker 7: I'm just more of a hockey and a sports fan,
Speaker 7: So I don't know. I agree with you guys about
Speaker 7: your concepts of snowplow parenting. You want to have your
Speaker 7: kids go through the diversity, But man, I don't know
Speaker 7: if I want them field and that's just from wearing
Speaker 7: like an out of town Jersey, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. The one sport I guess I
Speaker 2: would say I'm most passionate about as far as that's
Speaker 2: that's my old school team is is baseball. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: a kid from Long Island. I like that, right, give
Speaker 2: dad that. You know what I'm saying, Like if they
Speaker 2: want to root for the Lakers or hey, fine, I
Speaker 2: was gonna say. I'll even myself. I was never a
Speaker 2: big Knicks fan. I can't call myself a Laker, Sam,
Speaker 2: but I've been out here over a decade. I like
Speaker 2: Lakers Kings. I'm a big hockey basketball guy. My diehard
Speaker 2: alliances are NFL and Major League Baseball. So not all
Speaker 2: traditions have to die rich. Yeah, you know, like she
Speaker 2: carries your last name because you're her dad. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'll give you this one, And she carries
Speaker 2: the Mets losing tradition because you're her dad. How do
Speaker 2: you feel about this? Danny G You and I and Cove.
Speaker 2: You know, we've all come up in the radio ranks,
Speaker 2: and you know, we all have these friends that have
Speaker 2: moved around the country for radio or TV gigs, Like, hey,
Speaker 2: are friend Nico, he's the new morning guy in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Or hey, you remember Dana who used to work on
Speaker 2: the show. She's the new news anchor at Philadelphia. How
Speaker 2: do you feel about when media personalities adopt the city
Speaker 2: they live in for a long time. He's not real
Speaker 2: sports like our buddy Nico is from Detroit, but he's
Speaker 2: a fickle But he's the morning guy in Phoenix. Now,
Speaker 2: there's a way to handle that respectfully. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: like the Cardinals, you can do your job and show
Speaker 2: some cardinal pride, but you got to represent.
Speaker 3: It would be really hard to just bold face lie
Speaker 3: to your new listeners, especially with the ink I have
Speaker 3: on my body. You know, how would I suddenly be
Speaker 3: a fan of their team?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're You're an extreme example. But I see
Speaker 2: my buddy Nico, who I know grew up in Detroit,
Speaker 2: lived in New York for like twenty years. He's a
Speaker 2: big time morning guy in Phoenix, and I see him
Speaker 2: like on social media like yo, yo, Sons. He's you know,
Speaker 2: Sons fired their coach, you know, go Sons. I'm like
Speaker 2: Sons Okay, if he really meant that, he's just a
Speaker 2: people pleaser, and I know he's not. He's our pal,
Speaker 2: so I think he's just doing his job and he's
Speaker 2: doing the right thing in that moment.
Speaker 3: But you could be you could be a heel and
Speaker 3: just as popular.
Speaker 2: It's true. I mean even our former president didn't Obama
Speaker 2: where like a white Sox jersey, your hat or something
Speaker 2: that Wrigley. He never like denied his fandom, but he
Speaker 2: did it respectfully, like there's ways to do it. You know,
Speaker 2: need to be such a bandwagon person. I mean Giuliani
Speaker 2: before the hair dyed dripping down his face, when he
Speaker 2: when when the world loved him before, you know, things
Speaker 2: were weird because it just was a Yankees and where
Speaker 2: you're from, it's not that serious. And I respected that.
Speaker 2: He was very diehard Yankees. All right, Johnna Florida rapid fire?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 8: John A Fellas, what's good?
Speaker 6: Good morning?
Speaker 7: Like the New Time slot listen.
Speaker 3: You know me, I'm a big New England Boston fan
Speaker 3: of all the sports. And uh I got three boys,
Speaker 3: so I thought the Celtics in the in the Pats
Speaker 3: on them hockey and baseball.
Speaker 6: I let them.
Speaker 3: Figure it out, but the Celtics and Pats big time.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I think that's the rule. I think we've come to
Speaker 2: some weird hybrid conclusion that if your kids are growing
Speaker 2: up in a different city than you are, you could pick.
Speaker 2: You could be like, hey, kids, I get it. We
Speaker 2: we live in Dallas now, I grew up here. But
Speaker 2: there's one team this our family is. We're Mets fan.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe I tell my kids, hey, we're Mets fans, football, basketball, hockey.
Speaker 2: Do you think make your decision?
Speaker 4: Kids?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but dad's holding strong. Yeah we are Mets again.
Speaker 2: Because that's your part. They're gonna make their own minds
Speaker 2: up anyway, unfortunately, So yeah, I think that's it. I
Speaker 2: want them to think about me when I'm an old guy,
Speaker 2: when you know, when I'm in my nineties and up
Speaker 2: and I croak and the Mets finally when the World
Speaker 2: Series the year after I die, I want them to
Speaker 2: think of me. Ron in South Dakota, what's up?
Speaker 4: Ron? Hey?
Speaker 9: This one My situation is very easy. I was born
Speaker 9: and raised in Chicago. My son was born in Chicago,
Speaker 9: but we left there for the Twin Cities before he
Speaker 9: was two years old. Yet he's a Cubs fan due
Speaker 9: to me, but I give them the right to be
Speaker 9: a Twins fan also since he's in the Twin Cities.
Speaker 9: And it's easy because Cub this National League, Twins is americanly. Now,
Speaker 9: if there was in the Sane League, same division or anything,
Speaker 9: we might have to go to court and get some
Speaker 9: papers to solve something on this, you know. But with
Speaker 9: the girl it's different too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's interesting. Let me add one more
Speaker 2: rub coming on. They will take the last couple. I
Speaker 2: see my son playing t ball. I coach his team,
Speaker 2: and when they get up to bed, I'll say things
Speaker 2: to them like, all right, come on, yo, get those
Speaker 2: you know, get those hands back, you know, drive through
Speaker 2: the ball, just like and I think in my head
Speaker 2: I have to use Dodgers. I come on, who you Mookie, Betsy?
Speaker 2: You Freddy Freeman? Yo, all right, you're o Tani. Let's
Speaker 2: see that stroke. You're not saying polar Bear p I'm
Speaker 2: not saying polar bear peak because all the little bulls
Speaker 2: televampe Yeah, who is Soto? My my son and his
Speaker 2: little friends on his T ball team, they're not telling
Speaker 2: him come on, just like Timmy Tuffell used to do.
Speaker 2: Come on, just like len use those hips. Use those hips,
Speaker 2: just like the Toughle Shuffle, Daryl Strawberry swing Man bit
Speaker 2: better than that. But uh, you know, at some point
Speaker 2: I don't want my kid to feel like the weirdo
Speaker 2: when everyone else is like, go Dodgers and he's like, yeah, guys,
Speaker 2: but I like them. It was that campaign we grew
Speaker 2: up with. There to be different, all right, There to
Speaker 2: be It's not that big of a deal if he's
Speaker 2: a Mets fan, you know, and you can say, hey,
Speaker 2: it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 5: On the flip side, I get it because it is.
Speaker 5: It's fun, it's sports. But it's okay that he's the
Speaker 5: one kid that roots for the Dodgers. They're the Mets.
Speaker 5: See now you get me confused.
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Speaker 5: the fan in Cleveland. He was talking with Ken Carmon
Speaker 5: and Anthony Lima about the development of quarterbacks in the
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Speaker 8: Say, I do think it's important for young quarterbacks to
Speaker 8: be able to learn. You don't want to put a
Speaker 8: young quarterback in a football game before he's actually ready,
Speaker 8: because you know, there's there's just so many things in
Speaker 8: the in the cycle in this league these days is
Speaker 8: just so quick. You want these guys to be ready.
Speaker 8: And I do think there's huge advantages to being able
Speaker 8: to sit back and make sure you get and gain
Speaker 8: that confidence and and and really really learn the game
Speaker 8: and get the get the team surrounded in a good
Speaker 8: way so that you can go out there and have success.
Speaker 8: And I think that stuff happens naturally through like competition
Speaker 8: in different rooms. And you know, like the more competition
Speaker 8: you have and the more people you have competing, the
Speaker 8: more conversations come up and the more people learn. I
Speaker 8: think that's true, and not just in sports, but in
Speaker 8: every environment. You want good people in a room together
Speaker 8: that can push each other and then you'll get the
Speaker 8: most out of everybody.
Speaker 5: So that was Joe Flacco talking with the fan in
Speaker 5: Cleveland about the development of quarterbacks there.
Speaker 10: I mean, well, yeah, he's you know, forty years old
Speaker 10: now where you know, that's that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 10: I mean, when you played for as long as he
Speaker 10: has seventeen years, it's going to come off that way.
Speaker 10: And I think, look going back to his experience, he
Speaker 10: was a guy who started, you know, as a rookie,
Speaker 10: and you know, they had a lot of team success.
Speaker 10: He was good as a rookie. He continually got better
Speaker 10: and better and better. But you know, when you go
Speaker 10: back and look at the course of his career, he
Speaker 10: had continually developed into the position after his first couple
Speaker 10: of years to really be a guy that they could
Speaker 10: rely on, in particular in the clutch. And I think
Speaker 10: what he probably learned from his looking back at his
Speaker 10: rookiear and even just playing for as long as he played,
Speaker 10: is you know, and this is kind of happens. I
Speaker 10: think to all of us as fathers, like you look
Speaker 10: at your child or you look at younger generations and
Speaker 10: you're like, oh, I remember going through that, Like this
Speaker 10: is probably what they don't know or this is what
Speaker 10: they need to know in order to be able to
Speaker 10: do this the right way or be successful. And now again,
Speaker 10: playing as long as he has, he's seeing all that
Speaker 10: in real time as he's you know, had to kind
Speaker 10: of come in and pinch hit, if you will, for
Speaker 10: a lot of you know, younger guys his Stinton Cleveland
Speaker 10: back in twenty twenty three, a couple of years ago,
Speaker 10: and even last year for Anthony Richardson. And I think
Speaker 10: he's very aware of how different things are now, you know,
Speaker 10: for quarterbacks coming to the league, where they draft them,
Speaker 10: they play them, and they rinse them out right, they
Speaker 10: don't get any time to really sit, watch and learn
Speaker 10: unless you're a part of an organization that tries to
Speaker 10: do a right or if you've got a Hall of
Speaker 10: Fame guy sitting there in front of him, or at
Speaker 10: least a Pro Bowl caliber guy like an Alex Smith,
Speaker 10: or he's a Green Bay Aaron Rodgers and then Jordan Love,
Speaker 10: so that that's really few and far between, right, Most
Speaker 10: teams are hoping they could find a guy that's gonna
Speaker 10: be a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback, let alone a Hall
Speaker 10: of Famer. And so I think his you know, his
Speaker 10: words are wise in the sense of probably everything he's
Speaker 10: experienced as a starter, as a backup, as a guy
Speaker 10: who look, he's made a ton of money at this
Speaker 10: point in time in his career. He's won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 10: He's he's continually been able to prove that he can
Speaker 10: still do it, and so he does a need to.
Speaker 10: I think there's a desire of one two and at
Speaker 10: the same time being able to be a guy who's
Speaker 10: he's got five kids.
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's a family man.
Speaker 10: So he probably sees it from a lot different perspective,
Speaker 10: uh than a lot of guys who played the position,
Speaker 10: especially a lot of the young guys.
Speaker 11: Dang kids. He can sling that pill. Huh, he's a
Speaker 11: quarterback on in I think.
Speaker 5: I think he also said he was, uh, it was
Speaker 5: kind of nice to get away from his kids for
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: He was kind of half joking, but I think he
Speaker 5: just wanted to break.
Speaker 11: I think it's a I think it's a wise move
Speaker 11: to bring in Flacco for one reason and one reason alone.
Speaker 11: We could work from there. In my estimation, it's because
Speaker 11: you have someone that can stabilize an unstable environments as
Speaker 11: the quarterback. I think the Deshaun Watson conversation has created
Speaker 11: so much, so much confusion, so much you know kind
Speaker 11: of you know, is a conflict of how you want
Speaker 11: to feel about the situation. Is it you know what's
Speaker 11: next for the situation. There's so much surrounding Deshaun Watson
Speaker 11: that has been a an agent of deterioration for the
Speaker 11: Cleveland Browns. To bring a rookie into that equation, whether
Speaker 11: they're prepared for mentally, emotionally, physically to be able to
Speaker 11: handle it or not, it's really an unfair task and
Speaker 11: wait to put on the of a newly acquired, a
Speaker 11: newly hired talent for that position for your team and
Speaker 11: knowing that that element is still there, like whoever goes
Speaker 11: in has to accept the fact that Deshaun Watson still
Speaker 11: has to be a part of the conversation in terms
Speaker 11: of whose team is this at that position. That would
Speaker 11: be the first thing that I would say would be
Speaker 11: the wisest move, and bringing in a quarterback would be
Speaker 11: to bring in a guy like Joe Flacco who things
Speaker 11: like that are not going to bother him. He's already
Speaker 11: clearly shown you that it's not going to bother him.
Speaker 11: He's on borrowed time anyway, He's at the end of
Speaker 11: his career, and anything that he gets from this moment
Speaker 11: on is he's playing with house money. So he's going
Speaker 11: to go in there he's familiar with the front office,
Speaker 11: he's familiar with guys that are in the locker room,
Speaker 11: and he's going to be a positive force to the
Speaker 11: players that are in there and the other people that
Speaker 11: are around, including the fan base. He's he's a positive
Speaker 11: asset to add to your team and to add to
Speaker 11: your room. And hey, if Pickett proves out then and
Speaker 11: is able to learn some things from Flacco during this time,
Speaker 11: and you get get a bonus and picket developing if
Speaker 11: you take a draft pick somewhere. They got a few.
Speaker 11: They they got the thirty third pick in the second round.
Speaker 11: So that's that's a pretty pretty uh, pretty good position
Speaker 11: to be in to either be able to move up
Speaker 11: maybe a little bit in the second round or sit
Speaker 11: there and somebody's going to possibly fall to you at
Speaker 11: that thirty third pick. I think that for what it's worth,
Speaker 11: and you may not hear me say this often, I
Speaker 11: think Cleveland played this particular situation the right way in
Speaker 11: terms of a quarterback that can handle what's going on
Speaker 11: right now in Cleveland.
Speaker 5: When he talks about like developing young quarterbacks and you
Speaker 5: know how to how teams go about or how they
Speaker 5: should go about it, it still blows my mind that
Speaker 5: And I know it's not an exact science and every
Speaker 5: player is different and all that, but it still blows
Speaker 5: my mind that you draft a guy's almost he's an investment.
Speaker 5: And I don't know a whole hell of a lot
Speaker 5: about investing, but I do know that it does take
Speaker 5: some time, and you don't want to, like, you know,
Speaker 5: manipulate your investment too soon, because you got to let
Speaker 5: it grow a little bit.
Speaker 4: You gotta let it.
Speaker 5: And Joe Flacco's point was like, man, I think we
Speaker 5: got to be a little bit more patient, But nowadays
Speaker 5: they're just not. They want to know, now, all right,
Speaker 5: can you play?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: Well? Who the hell knows?
Speaker 5: Like it could be situation, it could be time, It
Speaker 5: could be another scenario altogether. Alex Smith took years before
Speaker 5: he developed. He went through like seven coaches or offensive
Speaker 5: core nators or whatever it was, and finally he found something.
Speaker 5: Had they pulled the rugout early on, he would have
Speaker 5: never developed into a guy that, you know, brought Kansas
Speaker 5: City to where they were before Patrick Mahomes took over
Speaker 5: and got him over the hump. You look at Sam
Speaker 5: Darnold Baker Mayfield, Man, if you would have talked to
Speaker 5: the Browns back then. The book was written on Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5: And yet for some reason, it just feels like, no,
Speaker 5: we got to know. Now we need an answer. Now
Speaker 5: it's an investment. But no, no, no, we got to have
Speaker 5: some answers. We've got to have some returns.
Speaker 11: Now with Watson, I feel like Baker Mayfield might have
Speaker 11: done something. He flirted with the wrong person or something man.
Speaker 2: And I thought, look, I think I think Rogers.
Speaker 11: In person, somebody's hey, he upsets somebody.
Speaker 5: I think Rogers, you know, has kind of made this
Speaker 5: point before to where like, man, there's there's gotta be
Speaker 5: some trust, like some hey, look, we are trusting you're
Speaker 5: making the decision, and we're trusting this pick at this time,
Speaker 5: and let's let it grow. Instead, it's like, now he
Speaker 5: can't play, he's got to go. And there's so many
Speaker 5: examples of that, And I don't get why, in a
Speaker 5: business like the NFL, where you are dependent on everybody
Speaker 5: around you to be successful, why it all comes down
Speaker 5: to now that guy can't play well, No, Like you've
Speaker 5: got to produce the environment for him to play, And
Speaker 5: that seems to be lost in so many situations.
Speaker 10: So I keep going back to too how different the
Speaker 10: game is at the NFL level from the college level.
Speaker 10: And I hope people understand this that RPOs they're not
Speaker 10: as capable or impactful at the NFL level because the
Speaker 10: rule that you could only have an eligible lineman, for example,
Speaker 10: downfield only a yard. In college and high school it's
Speaker 10: three and honestly it's more like three and a half
Speaker 10: because it's so hard for officials to be able to
Speaker 10: see it at that.
Speaker 4: Point in the play.
Speaker 10: I mean, when you picture a thing about an offensive
Speaker 10: lineman moving three yards downfield, that's a couple seconds into
Speaker 10: the play, right he's moving through a gigantic human being
Speaker 10: across from Even if he's uncovered and moving up to
Speaker 10: the next level, he's still trying to get a sense
Speaker 10: for what that linebacker is going to be because, don't
Speaker 10: get a twisted it is a run play, all right.
Speaker 10: There's different types of pass protections. There's pass pro, there's
Speaker 10: run action pro. Where it's a pass play, the linemen
Speaker 10: know not to go downfield, but they are doing their
Speaker 10: best to block it like it's a run, and so
Speaker 10: their responsibilities in regards to pressure are off. They don't
Speaker 10: adjust anything they're doing they are relying on the fake
Speaker 10: then a run action pass protection to be able to
Speaker 10: take care of whatever is going on and pre snap,
Speaker 10: if the quarterback sees something that he's like, this is
Speaker 10: a disaster, you get out of it, right, you audible
Speaker 10: out of it. But it's entirely different with an RPO.
Speaker 10: It is a run play. That quarterback has the opportunity
Speaker 10: to hand that football off high school, college level, even
Speaker 10: at the NFL level, the way it's taught, and then
Speaker 10: you're triggering or you're off one player on defense, and
Speaker 10: so the game has become so simplified at the high
Speaker 10: school to college level to where you have one of
Speaker 10: two choices. You're either keeping it and you're gonna throw,
Speaker 10: depending on what that defender does, if he steps up
Speaker 10: to stop the run or if he stays back in coverage,
Speaker 10: you're gonna hand the football off. And honestly, RPOs have
Speaker 10: replaced what used to be quick game, the three step game,
Speaker 10: where even in three step drop it sounds somewhat simple,
Speaker 10: right one, two, three, you're throwing the football. You're not
Speaker 10: really able to hitch up in the pocket because you're
Speaker 10: not getting any depth. You still had to read coverage.
Speaker 10: Even in a three step game, you had a one
Speaker 10: high or two high look, meaning if there was one
Speaker 10: safety the middle of the field, you're working to your left.
Speaker 10: If there's two high safeties right, a split safety look,
Speaker 10: you're working to your right. Or there could be a
Speaker 10: three by one set where you're checking your backside singled
Speaker 10: up route. If you like, you take it. If not,
Speaker 10: you're probably working a quick progression to the other side.
Speaker 10: So that used to be like the simplest form of
Speaker 10: passing back when I was young, back when a lot
Speaker 10: of quarterbacks were growing up through an era at a
Speaker 10: time where you used to play under center a little
Speaker 10: bit more, or even if you were in shotgun that
Speaker 10: was part of the quick game. The RPO game has
Speaker 10: essentially replaced that because you get the ability to put
Speaker 10: the defense in conflict much more, because there's that run
Speaker 10: pass conflict of reading that overhang defender or whoever whatever
Speaker 10: defender it is to decide if you want to throw
Speaker 10: or run the football. And if you think about what
Speaker 10: three step passing game was, it was like a glorified handoff.
Speaker 10: It was a higher percentage pass that you're going to
Speaker 10: be able to to complete and not get a big game,
Speaker 10: but move the sticks, or at least get enough of
Speaker 10: a game where it puts you in third and manageable,
Speaker 10: or you're back on track if you happen to take
Speaker 10: a loss on first down, and so you're back in
Speaker 10: third and manageable right in those instances. So to me,
Speaker 10: the subtle difference is in how the game is taught
Speaker 10: at high school to college and now to the NFL.
Speaker 10: It's one of those things that it takes time and
Speaker 10: you're making these decisions in seconds. One one thousand and two,
Speaker 10: one thousand balls got to be out, and you've got
Speaker 10: all these other things you have to be worried about.
Speaker 10: It's not really that way at a lot of the colleges,
Speaker 10: even with some the NFO. You know coaches that are
Speaker 10: down at that level or even what they're asking him
Speaker 10: that you know what they're doing. And it's why the
Speaker 10: NFL has had to adapt a lot of their offensive
Speaker 10: scheme to what these quarterbacks are accustomed to doing, because
Speaker 10: they don't have the time to develop and no one
Speaker 10: has the patience anymore to see if they can develop
Speaker 10: into being that guy. They have to be able to
Speaker 10: show it in their rookie year, otherwise everyone throws them
Speaker 10: the wayside.
Speaker 4: That's weird, man.
Speaker 5: It's unfortunate for these guys that just get lumped in
Speaker 5: like Ken can think about Kenny Pickett, what's he on
Speaker 5: his third team?
Speaker 4: Third team?
Speaker 2: He just got drafted and he just got traded. He's
Speaker 2: traded twice, so the third team, Like he just got
Speaker 2: into the league.
Speaker 5: Like not that long ago. We were at that draft
Speaker 5: in Vegas when he was when he was selected, and
Speaker 5: just the books apparently already written. It is two pros
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