1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: At least. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Matt It's Tuesday. Steelers had a couple of draft visitors 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: and again today. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, those being Elijah Roberts, the defensive lineman from SMU 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: and cornerback. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Kid from Ole Miss Tams. Yeah. I like Amos a lot, 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: and he's big, he runs well, he's physical, he plays 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: a ball in the air well, but most importantly, he's 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: a man coverage corner. Yeah. I mean the Steelers. This 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: is gonna sound like I'm just crushing Jackson, and in 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: a way, I am, But I think he really handicapped 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: to what they could do, especially once injury set in 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: and part right, yeah that they played so much cover three, 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: pretty static shell, Minka in the middle, Porter Jackson, and 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: they were good at it. I mean, like people just 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: remember the end. I mean, they were a pretty darn 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: good defense for much of the year that I think 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: they were a little handcuffed with how much man coverage 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: they could play. Just come down and bang, and frankly, 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: I think that can lead to more sacks. I mean 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: it can lead to more blitzing that if you have 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: one corner that you don't trust. And that's where I'm 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: going here with Jackson, who's no longer a stealer obviously, 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: and I think they like the new guys better. You 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: can get a lot more aggressive, you can do a 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: lot more things, And the fact that they have amos 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: in makes me think that clearly they recognize that. And 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: it slays a man coverage corner, right, I mean, they 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: can do everything and still it's only like forty five 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: percent going to play band ninety, you. 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: Know, And just from the looks of things, they're covering 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: their bases with a lot of guys that are in that. 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: First round mix. Yeah, I wonder if they would be 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 1: considered a twenty one or is that also telling us 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: we might not pick at twenty one? 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: You know, you're looking at this going, okay, what if 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: worst case scenario happens? Somebody asked me on a message 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: or on Twitter today, what happens if all the top 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: four defensive tackles are all gone and you're at twenty one? 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: You can't move back and you've got to pick somebody 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: right back to our top twenty one list, which maybe 48 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: Amos should have been on. I mean, you could break 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: the story where he could be one of those guys 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: now in the mix if things go wrong. 51 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: But I think if in that vein again with our 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 3: top twenty one list, if all those defensive tackles are gone. 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Somebody else is going to be available to do the math. 54 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: There's only twenty people that are going to get picked, because. 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: There's going to be there's you know, we just did 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: another mock draft for Steelers dot Com today and I 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: think I had what three or four edge rushers in. 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: My top good going early, which I think is very possible. 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: I think that was a good way of looking at it. 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: Certainly there's going to be four or five edge rushers 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 3: gone by the time the Steelers pick at twenty one. 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: So everyone on the planet knows quarterbacks the most premium position. Yeah, 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: I think pure offensive tackles are next. But it's a conversation. Yeah, 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean some people will say it's edge guys. You know, 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: give me Bosa, give me why. 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: The highest paid defensive players right edge rushers, the guys 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: that sacked the quarterback Yep. 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: The thing is why I put tackles over that is 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: because Dan Moore, they stopped them from them well sacking 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But the not tier one guys are getting 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: paid so heavily and the Tier one guys just get 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: whatever they want to. But anyway, that's splitting hairs. So 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: last year's draft was loaded with offensive tackles and they 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: went really fast. Well if this even if just because 75 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of them doesn't mean they are an 76 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: even less of a premium everybody that I'm going everybody 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: knows this stuff going. They knew this a year ago. 78 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like looking at this one the next year's 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: because they do. You don't scout scout the sophomores and juniors. 80 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: But the dude that walks into Auburn knows that Auburn's 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: got a young right, I mean talking about I'm sure 82 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: they put together a board before the season starts as Okay, 83 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: this looks like a really good edge draft. Yeah, I 84 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: mean I think they say things like, boy, my my 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: area is really loaded with defensive tackles and guards. Next 86 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: year subject to change, but keep that in mind. It's 87 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: not a bible. It's guys, rise guys, fall, injuries, transfer, 88 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Like we talked about the quarterbacks, you know, you just 89 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: don't know, but you know that by mid season, well, 90 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: this is going to be a really good edge draft. 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: Or like last year, you know, this is going to 92 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: be a really good tackle draft. So what I was 93 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: saying about tackles is just because there was a lot 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: of them in the first round last year doesn't make 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: it any less of a premium position or less across 96 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: the league. So I was thinking that whenever we were 97 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: going through your mock today, like just because there's a 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: lot doesn't mean people we're going to pass on them. 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: You know, the Bears, the Bengals, et cetera, et cetera. 100 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: When you need one, you need when you need one. 101 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: The Eagles just won a Super Bowl based on that theory, 102 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, so they're going to be as in demand 103 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: philosophically as much as ever. There might be two of 104 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: them off the board that we didn't even expect in 105 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: the top twenty, you know what I mean. There might 106 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: be a real run on them. 107 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean that's something to keep an eye on. 108 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: And if that happens, then you know, then something you're 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: probably getting a defensive tackles although the defensive tackles, the 110 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: same thing could happen a deep defensive tackle draft, and maybe. 111 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: It's not far off the premium position list. Yeah, you know, 112 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: it might even be right behind. I guess you can 113 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: rush the passer. I don't know that there's as many 114 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: first round guys as there are hedge rushers right right, right, 115 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: I could see the difference. I could see waiting on 116 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Detackle easier than waiting on Michael Williams or Green or 117 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: the Boston College dude, you know whoever. You know. 118 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: And one of the things that we do in our 119 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: mock drafts is a lot is trade down. It sounds 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: good in theory, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we want to trade down. 121 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: Somebody has to want to come up. Yeah, like you 122 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: can't just hold a gun to somebody's a We're give 123 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: me pick twenty five for pick twenty one, and we 124 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: want your third rounder. 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: We love our box and people like them, but it's 126 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: not like you're gonna have oh, we have five trade offers. 127 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: We'll just tell the Giants, no, we don't like them. Well, 128 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't work though, we don't work with them. You know, 129 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: that's not really how it works. That might be no 130 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: one calling right, I mean you have fifteen minutes and. 131 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: You know, you the phone calls to other teams. Really, 132 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: they're laying the groundwork to some of this stuff happens now. 133 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. You know, with these two weeks left 134 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: in the in the draft, you start, I'm sure, setting 135 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: your draft board and the Okay, here's what we here's 136 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: what we like. 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: Okay, what if one again, get your top twenty one? 138 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: And then okay, who's who's interested moving around? Who would 139 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: be somebody that somebody would be interested in coming up. 140 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: To get This is highly hypothetical because I don't think 141 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers are in this situation at all. But if 142 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: they were really interested in get in the eight to 143 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: eleven range, well, at the owner's meetings, I bet Omar 144 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: would pull the eighth GM, the ninth GM, the tenth 145 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: GM and be like, I'm married, are you to that? Yeah? Right? 146 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if it doesn't go your way and your 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: guy isn't sitting there, I'm gonna call you the way. 148 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: But keep us in mind first. 149 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: And I think in this year's draft in particular, I 150 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: know when we talk about it and when we you know, 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: do the thing on ESPN that is that Matt Miller 152 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: that puts that together. 153 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that are first round picks. For the first round 154 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: pick guys. Quite frankly, that number might be low. It 155 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: might it might be five, That's what I say. Like 156 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: his number might be high. Yeah, I mean like, I'm 157 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: not sure any safety counts. I'm not sure once you 158 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: start getting past the top, I'm not sure any corner 159 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: count I mean. 160 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: Like, honestly, I think after you get past the you know, 161 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: five or six players, however many it is, the next 162 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: fifty to sixty players are all going to have similar grades. Yeah, 163 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: and it's going to be based on need, which is 164 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: again why I thought edge rushers everybody needs them. 165 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: I remember when we did our twenty one the other day, 166 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: and I went out and got coffee and I started 167 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: thinking about last year's class, And then I went home 168 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: and just pulled up the first round of the twenty 169 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: twenty four draft, you know, one year ago, and I'm 170 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: trying to ignore what they did in their rookie seasons, 171 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: what I thought of them this time last year. There's 172 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: so many guys I would take ahead of fifth guy 173 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: on our board at twenty one. I mean so many. 174 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: It's not that they won't be good. Players. No, right, 175 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: it'll be good players that come out of this draft. 176 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be like Quinna and Mitchell went deep 177 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: in the twenties. Yeah, and he's a first round pick 178 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: any year to me, And I thought he was a 179 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: ten pick this year. It maybe higher. I mean, like 180 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Hunter's the only corner you think is clearly ahead of them, 181 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: because Hunters weird, you know. Yeah. 182 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: Elijah Roberts the other guy who came in today as 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: a guy we haven't talked about a ton out of 184 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: SMU six four eighty five. Yeah, but you know what 185 00:08:59,320 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: he has. 186 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: He has a length though, thirty three and five eighths, 187 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: and I thought he had like he's got he's got 188 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: the arms. 189 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: He's got ten and a quarter inch hands. That helps 190 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: you with your heavy hand usage. 191 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: I do need to watch more of them. We haven't 192 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: talked about him a lot. I haven't studied him super 193 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: in depth, but I've seen him and read about him 194 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: and watched a little bit. I think he could use 195 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: ten pounds. He was a really good tester though too. Yeah, 196 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: at the combine. That's the two things I was really 197 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: going to say is there's a lot of multiple clay 198 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: there to work with. Especially if you don't need him now, 199 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't be your first round page now you 200 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: know he's a fourth or fifth round pack. Yeah, he 201 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: could be a more athletic logan lead rookie season, whatever. 202 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: And I'd like to put ten pounds on him, you know, 203 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: but all those things aren't that hard to do. It's 204 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: not that hard to do, right, And I don't know 205 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: what they asked him to play at or how big 206 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: he can get or you. 207 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: Know, but he has length and typically most guys come 208 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: into the combine a little bit lighter than the run 209 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: and you know what you would normally be. 210 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: But it sounds crazy, but they don't look good in 211 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: their underwear too, you know, I have a little fat 212 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: on him and stuff. They're like, wow, that's he's stands out. 213 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: You look like a jiggly right. 214 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, so you know, again, another late round, later round, 215 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: mid round defensive lineman then. 216 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: Would fit in. Yeah. 217 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: This draft is loaded with those kind of guys, and 218 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: so we'll see where that goes. 219 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: But I just. 220 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: It's such an interesting draft. This is the latest that 221 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: we've gotten into the process that every team has still 222 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: had their first round pick nineteen ninety three. 223 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Really that doesn't surprise me at all. 224 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: And so you know, I'm like, what was that ninety 225 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: three draft? Like it changed five days before the draft 226 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: when the chief was draft the Chiefs sent their first 227 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: round pick to the forty nine ers for Joe Montana. 228 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: Oh wow, imagine that the team from pointing out to. 229 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Get a quarterback that had some injuries and all time 230 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: great And yeah, So. 231 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: I just went back and looked at that draft draft. 232 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: Drew Bledsoe was the number one overall. That's the bettest draft. Yeah, okay, yeah, 233 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: he went tenth overall. Jerome Bettis does not go tenth 234 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: overall in today's NFL. 235 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: No, I mean it might not even be a first 236 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, but I did think he ran well 237 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: and he's a better athlete than he looks. 238 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're talking. Rick Meyer was two, Garrison Hurst three, 239 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: and they traded up to go get him. Uh, the 240 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: Cardinals and Jets swapped picks there, So the Jets moved 241 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: up a spot or the Cardinals moved up a spot 242 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: with the Jets to get Garrison Hurst. The Jets and 243 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: took Marvin Jones and flybacker. The Bengals took John Copeland 244 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: at five. At six, the Buccaneers took Eric Curry at seven, 245 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: The Bears took Curtis Conway at eight. The Saints took 246 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: Willie Rofe, your first offensive tackle, who wound up being 247 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: a Hall. 248 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: Of Famer, basically the best player in that draft. Yeah. Right. 249 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: The Giants forfeited their pick because they made a supplemental pick, 250 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: taking Dave Brown in ninety two. That's crazy. People probably 251 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: don't even know it's how the supplemental draft works, but 252 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: that nobody does it any Nobody does it anymore, right, 253 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: because you just if you're in a bad situation, you 254 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: just transfer out or move, you know, you don't get 255 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: stuck academically ineligible or whatever, like Chris Cartner was a 256 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: supplemental pick. Right. 257 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: Wow, Lincoln Kennedy went nine to the Falcons for your 258 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: second offensive tackle. Then Bettis went ten to the Rams. 259 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, that's interesting, though, I mean, do you think 260 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you don't know the answer, but 261 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm kind of betting there won't that when the draft opens, 262 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: when the opening bell rings on Thursday night, all thirty 263 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: two will have their picks. It won't hold out for 264 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: the day, for the night. But I don't know that 265 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a pre draft move, yeah, because to 266 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: get on the where you can't get trade, you're going 267 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback, right, I mean you can't get 268 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: the one. 269 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you know, would could somebody wanted to. 270 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: Move up to two. Maybe those guys open for getting 271 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: out of there either. Yeah. 272 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean I don't know the problem then, because you know, 273 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: you start looking at those teams that are in the 274 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: top ten. The Titans, Okay, they're in the quarterback market. 275 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: They're gonna take care. 276 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: I think they're done right. 277 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: Cleveland is in the quarterback market, but it doesn't seem 278 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 3: like they're interested in should or Sanders as much anymore. 279 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Not a two. I think like the Giants and Browns 280 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: could still very much be in the quarterback market after 281 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: they get their stud blue chip guy. Yeah, you know, 282 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: and if it falls well, and I can get up there, 283 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and maybe I even have to forfeit next years. First 284 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: I get Darked, I get Sanders, okay, yeah, and see 285 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: how the Chips fall. The Giants we just mentioned. The 286 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Patriots aren't making a move up to get a quarterback. 287 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: They're not going up. No, I bet they would gladly 288 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: go down now that it looks like the top three 289 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: are off the board. The Jaguars aren't going to be 290 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: in the market for a quarterback, not going up. No, 291 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders could be. And is anyone trading up for Sanders? No? 292 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean you're not trading to two or three to 293 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: get No. I don't think so. Not what you're gonna 294 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: have to give up. I could see someone trading to 295 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: eight to get ahead of the Saints. Sure, if you're 296 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen, yeah, you know, But the Raiders aren't 297 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: in that market. No, I don't think so. The Jets 298 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: could be in the market. Maybe they would take them 299 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: at their pick. Yeah, I don't know that they would 300 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: be aggressive to get the would they go to four? 301 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: Like if I'm the Patriots, I'd love the Jets or 302 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Saints or someone like that to call me. I'll still 303 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: take Membo or Campbell or even Tep McMillon or whatever 304 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: you're going to get somebody in need. 305 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: The Panthers aren't making a move for a quarterback now. 306 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: The Saints could, but they're more than a quarterback away. 307 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: I don't think they want to trade up to go 308 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: do it. 309 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: And they don't take quarterbacks in the first round ever, ever. Right, 310 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: I haven't done it since Archie Manning. Right, I mean 311 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: a mad car. Yeah, I mean I think that's drying 312 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: up unless Rogers a tires. The Bears aren't trading up 313 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: for a quarterback. No, no, no. The forty nine Ers 314 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: aren't trading up for a quarterback unless say something weird 315 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: and they trade party. But there's no one buying on 316 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: these other guys now. The Cowboys aren't moving up a quarterback. 317 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there were six taken in the first round. 318 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: That's six bad teams that it takes all take them 319 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: out of the quarterback market. 320 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: The Dolphins not moving up for a quarterback. The Colts, 321 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: they're not moving up. 322 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: You just paid Jones. You're gonna live with it and 323 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: maybe next year you're back in the market. 324 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: The Falcons Nope, no, they said that. The Cardinals Nope. 325 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: The Bengals No. 326 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: That's why I have won links some of the Steelers. Yeah. 327 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: The Seahawks. I don't think they would move up to 328 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: get one, but it would. They could take one. They 329 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: should take one. Yeah, I mean maybe they like Howe 330 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: more than we think, not as a long term starter. 331 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: But I mean I'm just saying how versus Howard or 332 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: McCord or somebody or shocked. Maybe they like him better 333 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: than those guys. But they could be round two trade 334 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: up for Dark. I mean they got a lot of 335 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: extra picks too. Yeah, Donald's really only on one year deal, 336 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: really a one year Tampa Bays in the field. Tampa 337 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Bay's not move moving up or quarterback. They might be 338 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: wise to take one of the third round, but I 339 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: mean they're Denver is not going to do it. No, 340 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: so it doesn't leave just the playoff teams aren't into it. 341 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: There just aren't that many landing spots that or teams 342 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: that are going to be super aggressive to go up 343 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: and get a quarterback. Yeah, I think that fact that's 344 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: where the trades come in. I think that factors in 345 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: the Browns and Giants' decision to not take Sanders because 346 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: who are we really fighting after the fourth pick in 347 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: the draft to go get Sanders. When he starts to 348 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: fall a little and falls on Evey, the right worries 349 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: fall into where he should go right dart or you know, 350 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: like we can. 351 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Teams are gonna be anxious to go back. Browns have 352 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: a ton of picks, Giants are desperate they could use 353 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: move next year's first to get to fifteen overall or 354 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: something like that and leave this draft with Hutter and Sanders. Yeah, 355 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's possible. So if you're in 356 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: their shoes, if we really diagnosed the Browns and Giants 357 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: drafts like we do the Steelers, I think you're happy 358 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: to take the blue chip dude and then let's try 359 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: to now we're we on a dealing. 360 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, now you can do something because you've got you've 361 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: got the stud who. 362 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: You got the no brain Yeah, you know right, that's 363 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: maybe a franchise changer type guy. And then we still 364 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: might get our quarterback. Would you be opened for business 365 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: in trading with the Browns for the first overall pick 366 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: in the second round for them to move up to 367 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: twenty one and take a quarterback. Yes, Because I don't 368 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks. I want to play against them, which 369 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: might bring us in the same boat. Yeah, like, ooh, 370 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: I get to play against the Door Sanders and you 371 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: guys can have a history of screwing them up or 372 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: dart or if it's one of those two, I will 373 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: gladly pay against them, and I would I have no 374 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: problem picking thirty three. Yeah, that's not a bad place 375 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: to be not at all. I mean, because you could 376 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: also move back up to twenty seven. If the d 377 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: tackles are falling like crazy. It doesn't mean you're stuck 378 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: at thirty three. Yeah, maybe you're the trade up team. 379 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna get a lot, a lot, you get all. Yeah. 380 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: So I actually did make a trade with them on 381 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, and I was just curious, like, what 382 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: do you get when you move mo to the real 383 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: beginning of the second round. It was a hall. I mean, 384 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: it was a lot of stuff. You know, it was decent. 385 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: There was a Day two pick next year. It was 386 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: a good obviously the second round or obviously the third. 387 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: It's like, man, I got a lot of stuff in 388 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: my fingertips here, and maybe I still get Nolan or 389 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: Harmon or whatever. You know. Yeah, right, it's not bad. No, 390 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: it's not the worst thing in the world. 391 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: And again, in this draft, it's it's all going to 392 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: be yeah, team Need, it's all gonna be about team Need. 393 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: Everybody's just take the best player available. I just think 394 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: the Giants and Browns are so key after they make 395 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: their pick. Yeah, you know, and the Saints could do. 396 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: Saints are super unpredictable. They're a trade up team all 397 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, it's always Marty. 398 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: Gro Let's get to the break here. He is the 399 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the 400 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 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He is the 407 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. 408 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: And I don't know if you read this all the time, Matt, 409 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: but Bob Labriola, the Dean of Doom. 410 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: The lord of living in his fears, Friend of the show, 411 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: Friend of the shows, friend of the show. 412 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, his asked and answered on Steelers dot 413 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: Com is I read it religiously. 414 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: Because it's Bob. 415 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: So he was asked today by Ed Johnson from Germantown, Ohio, 416 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: that can you list the starting quarterbacks for the Steelers 417 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 3: between Terry Bradshaw's retirement after the eighty three season and 418 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: Chuck Knowles after the ninety one season, So we're talking 419 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: about a nine year period, right, and so Bob rolled 420 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 3: through it here because okay. Bradshaw started one game in eighty. 421 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: Three, really okay, and then retired after the season. Yeah. 422 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: Well he made like six passes in the game, blew 423 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: his elbow up. Yeah done, okay. Cliff Stout was the 424 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: starter that year. In eighty four, David Woodley made seven starts. 425 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: Mark Malone made nine starts. 426 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: They split the job from eighty five to eighty seven, 427 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: Maloone was the primary starter. 428 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So I thought he's stuck for a while. Yeah. 429 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 1: In eighty eight, Bobby Brister started thirteen games. Is what 430 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: was Bobby? A third round pick? Yeah? Yeah, third round pick. 431 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Todd Blackledge started three and bristerl retained the job through 432 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: eighty nine. He made fourteen starts in eighty nine, sixteen 433 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: starts in ninety. He opened the ninety one season as 434 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: a starter, but after six games, Noel went to Neil O'Donnell, 435 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: who was round pick. Yeah, yea yeah. 436 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: He then started the next eight games, and then Noel 437 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: went back to Bristol for the final two games of 438 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: that season. 439 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: No, great, right, you're just thirteing. It's what you do. Yeah, 440 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: and made me think. 441 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: This made me think of this because I was, as 442 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: I do I was looking around the social media today 443 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: and Bob smiaac former post is that I have a 444 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: lot of respect for. You know, Bob Well tweeted out 445 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: that the Steelers searching or going after Aaron Rodgers has 446 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: made them the laughing stock of the NFL. Now, you 447 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: and I were just at the league. 448 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: Meetings and we were just the facility. 449 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: But at no point during that four days we were 450 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: in South Florida was anybody looking at you. 451 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: You look at the Steelers you a second time? Ye silly? Yeah, 452 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: we weren't laughed at. No, the laughing stock of the NFL. 453 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't. Don't you think they're pretty comfortable with this situation? 454 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: And no more than we do, Yes, I do. I 455 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: don't think. I think they're pretty comfortable with what the 456 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: outcome is going to be, especially from hearing from the 457 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: owner at the owner's meetings too. I mean, Tomlin and 458 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: Kahn addressed it but didn't say, oh, I'm feeling good 459 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: about it, blah blah blah blah. And then mister Rooney 460 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: comes out and says, spreading the right direction. You know, 461 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm not real concern like, okay signing David Woodley. They're 462 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: not doing that right, they're not putting Toddler Blackledge. They're 463 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: not going like third round draft picks. And just I 464 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: remember the eighties, like you know, that was that was 465 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: in my wheelhouse. There was a reason, even though I 466 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: grew up largely in Western Pennsylvanian, different parts of Western Pennsylvania, 467 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: I was not a Steelers fan. Right, Those teams were 468 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: not easy to love. No, No, they definitely weren't. I 469 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: mean that was they didn't have the face of the 470 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: team or you know, the quarterback and you're here. Funny 471 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: now they think about it. I mean at that point 472 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: I was probably ten twelve. You know, it's born in 473 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: seventy three and you're here during that era. The game's 474 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: passed truck Mullbai and he doesn't have it anymore. Yeah, 475 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: he forgot what blocking and tackling and coaching was all about. 476 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: A quarterback. You didn't have a quarterback, right, It's all 477 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: about the quarterback. And they had taken Mark Malone in 478 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: the first round, right, it just didn't work out. I mean, 479 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: he wasn't a premium pick because they were really good. 480 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: But you know, right, you. 481 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: Know they had Cliff Stout and then the USFL came along, 482 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: is that that's where he ended up. Gave him a 483 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 3: million dollars or whatever it was. 484 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: It got a lot of money for the day. Yeah, 485 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: to go play for the Birmingham Stallions. You know, it's 486 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: like and they weren't going to the playoffs every year 487 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: and didn't have winning records every year either, right, you 488 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: know this time is better than that time, without a doubt. 489 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: And I just I can't get past the feeling. 490 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: And I'm not ripping on any other franchises or anything 491 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: like that in town, but the difference between how the 492 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: Steelers seasons in which they've made the playoffs three of 493 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: the last four years, and the Penguin season they just 494 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 3: get eliminated from playoff contention. They can't make the playoffs 495 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: again as of their lost yesterday. 496 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: They're out there. 497 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: They're out for the third consecutive year. And somehow they 498 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: have a plan and the Steelers don't. And they're in 499 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: a better spot than the Steelers are. They're in the 500 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: last place in their division. And I guarantee you I 501 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: often hear the Pirates are a better spot. I don't 502 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: know enough about either one of those sports or franchises. 503 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: Maybe they are, I don't I'd be shocked. The Penguins 504 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 3: did not go into this season not hoping to not 505 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: make the playoffs. They didn't go into this season that 506 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: wasn't trying to tank. They went out and spent money 507 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 3: in the offseason. 508 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Well, they've retained Malkin and Sid and Tang and they're doing. 509 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: They they paid a goaltender, well, you know, five million 510 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: dollars a year. They were trying to win and didn't 511 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: do it. And somehow the idea that these franchises are 512 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: all in a similar place right now is boggles my mind. 513 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just wonder what our message boards 514 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: and reaction would be if the Steelers were eliminated from 515 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs in Week twelve, if the Steelers didn't make 516 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs three consecutive years that's never and or if 517 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: they were had a last place finish. The Pirates winning 518 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: percentage every year, I mean, if you're winning thirty some 519 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: percent of your games or whatever they do. 520 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: You know, they didn't make the playoffs in ninety eight, 521 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: ninety nine, and two thousand, okay, but at least in 522 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 3: two thousand they finished nine and seven and were in 523 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: playoff contention. They needed something to happen. They won the game. 524 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: They won their game against the Chargers in San Diego 525 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: and needed some stuff to happen to get into the playoffs. 526 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: Didn't happen for them, but at least you saw something. 527 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: They were trending in the right direction. Yeah, not going 528 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: the other way. The Penguins aren't last place. They're going 529 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: to finish in the last place in their division. This 530 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 3: year they've gone boom boom bo. They're going the wrong way. 531 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: How often has that happening? Yeah, since covering the Steelers, 532 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: and it doesn't happened. I remember the two years, the 533 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: two most recent years, I should know, my head, the 534 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Steelers didn't make the playoffs. Six teams went and they 535 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: were number seven. Yeah. Yeah, there was a couple of 536 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: those instances, two or three years in a row where 537 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: they were a tiebreaker away or whatever, one went away 538 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. Now again, I really have a hard time 539 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: talking Penguins of pirates because I can't even tell you 540 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: their rosters at this point. I do understand that the 541 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: Penguins have a ton of draft picks, so at least 542 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: the future finally los a ton of draft picks next 543 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: year going forward, Yeah, right, right right. I mean it's 544 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: kind of like the Browns, like the Browns got rid 545 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: of all their picks forever and now finally have a 546 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: ton this year, this year, so you can start, you know, right, 547 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, but it's going to be around. I don't know, 548 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean right right right? Is Miles Garrett gonna be 549 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: around around? I don't know, you know, when you're good. 550 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: That people argue that the Steelers don't have a plan 551 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: in place. 552 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: See that makes me crazy, Like they don't just Willy 553 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: nearly throw stuff at a fan in Hope now right. 554 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: Their plan is a we're going to compete every year, 555 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: which they have done. They've made the playoffs, they walk that, 556 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 3: which is hard, and it's obvious what the plan is 557 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: if you're paying any attention whatsoever. They've loaded up with 558 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: all the compensatory picks and everything for next year to make. 559 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: The play to go get their quarterback. Yes, I think 560 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: the plan is to really be all in and fall 561 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: in love with somebody next year, even if you had to, 562 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: even if you had to trade your first and second 563 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: round picks next year and maybe a future you know, 564 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: future picks or whatever. Right, because you've loaded up on 565 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: all those compensatory picks, you can afford to do that 566 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: because you're still going to get stuff out of the draft. 567 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: That's my point is if you can build, especially the 568 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: line of scrimmages, but if you can build a quality 569 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: environment and say the nest you know, and in the 570 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: meantime win ten games with Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback 571 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: and maybe a playoff game or maybe smissed the playoffs, 572 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: or maybe only win eight. But you're not picking in 573 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: the top five. You're not creating a losing environment right 574 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: right right, And Cam Hayward's still giving it as all 575 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: and TJ. Watt's still a leader and blah blah, blah blah. 576 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: You know what the Browns have done right now is oh, 577 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: we had our one year and then we're back to 578 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: picking second again. 579 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: So where I'm going with this, Guys want to get 580 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: I gotta get the hell out of here. We're fast 581 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: forwarding one year. We're sitting here in this room leading 582 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: up to the twenty twenty six draft, and our conversation 583 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: might be over and over. Yeah, the Steelers are picking 584 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: twenty five in the first round, but there's four quarterbacks 585 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: we really like. Can they get the seven, Can they 586 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: get the eight man that's going to be expensive? Can 587 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: they get. We just went through all the teams that 588 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: don't need quarterbacks this year. Yeah. Yeah, there's gonna be 589 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: some teams to take quarterbacks this year that are going 590 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, okay, maybe we got our guy, 591 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: right right, I mean you might, maybe we don't have 592 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: to get the ten. Maybe if they get the eight, 593 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: maybe there's only six teams in the entire draft next 594 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: year that even are in the market for a quarterback. 595 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: But my point is a year from now, let's say 596 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers win a playoff game and they're picking kind 597 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: of late in the first round twenty five, and they 598 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: got to get the seven or eight man. That's to 599 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: be expensive, though, I don't care what it costs, right, 600 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: you want next year's first, you want the first that year, 601 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the second that year, and next year's first. I'm going 602 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: to get my quarterback. Yeah, I don't care what it cost. 603 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: And that's when you push your chips in. 604 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: And I've got a bunch of the plan of those 605 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: day two picks in early day three picks right that 606 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: I can I can afford to do. 607 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: It if I take a quarterback at eight, and then 608 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: I have two thirds to go get a little left 609 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: guard and something else and oh, by the way, I 610 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: have tons of cap space to fill my other needs, 611 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, like the cap space they have next year 612 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: is tremendous. They'll keep any free agent they want, or 613 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: they'll let them walk for future comp picks and they'll 614 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: fill their holes that way. To say that they don't 615 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: have a plan is bonkers is crazy. So I hesitate 616 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: to bring this up because people think I'm bonkers it. 617 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: They think that anyways, they should both of us and 618 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: I think about this stuff too much. But I'm starting 619 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: to fall in love with Jaylen Milroe and I regret 620 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: doing our twenty one because for the Steelers perspective, he 621 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: would be my QB two because he if you hear 622 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: me out, because he could be. 623 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: The endswer Okay, because I'm thinking, you're bonkers, get it, 624 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: I get it for the Steelers, I don't want Sanders 625 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: and maybe be the fourteenth best quarterback. 626 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: No, I hear that part of it. Yeah, yeah, Frankly, 627 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm just not very impressed with dark Shuck's a little old. 628 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: But if Milroe could sit behind Rogers and do very 629 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: little this year and continues to do all the stuff 630 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: he's working on, like the Senior Bowl was a disaster. 631 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: But he's been working with Jordan Palmer on his lower 632 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: body mechanics and he's new at it. You know, Like 633 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm giving him a lot of excuses in a lot 634 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: of leeway. And where I'm going with this is he's 635 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: my number two quarterback now for the Steelers, not for 636 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: the Saints, not for the Giants. You know, that would 637 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: still be Sanders. But I would you consider if I 638 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: could convince you of that, or maybe I can. Maybe 639 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm impossible to do that. But if there was that 640 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: player and I'm sold on him, and I take Walter 641 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: Nolan at twenty one, I might trade a lot to 642 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: go get Milroe in this draft future stuff and build 643 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: and do it a year earlier. 644 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: Well, if you think only him, if you think he's 645 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: the guy, and you can get into the second because 646 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: the cost to get back into the second round. 647 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: There's not going to need to get like the thirty five. 648 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that he got invited to the 649 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: draft has made my mind spind like maybe I'm not 650 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: looking at him. 651 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: That doesn't like again, in this in this particular draft, 652 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 3: when only twelve guys had said yes to coming to 653 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: the draft because they all want now I'm going to 654 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: spend the time on home. I don't want to go 655 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: to Green Bay whatever, whatever their decision. 656 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: When I'm just convinced he's to be a top fifty pick, 657 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: I think he will be too. Yeah, I mean, like 658 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do. You don't have to give 659 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: him something good to go in that neighborhood. Yeah, you're 660 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to. It's kind of a bird in the hand. 661 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Like I'm not interested in giving up next year's one. 662 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm not me neither. I've said that eight thousand times. 663 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: But if I love him and I can. If I 664 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: love him and I'm starting, still not interested in training 665 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: next year's one just because two. That's bad business. It 666 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: is unless you love them. I mean, I'm not like 667 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: writing an article about and saying this is what they 668 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: should do. It has just crossed my mind for the 669 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: first time in the last twenty four hours. 670 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: That's putting an eight carrot rock on his finger and 671 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: signing a pre nup that says he gets everything. 672 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he can work on being a better wife 673 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: for a year and I can get married in your 674 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: ear lender, whatever, how are you going to look at this? Whatever? Right? Right? Yeah, 675 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: I guess he would be your husband. Although I just 676 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: put a carrot ring on his right, right, right right, 677 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: so we've mixed forgot on that road. Yeah, but you 678 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: could start the process a year early if you love them, 679 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: if you love them, you know, as opposed to I 680 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: hope I love someone next year. And I got to 681 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: get because here's my point is, I think the Steelers 682 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: might pick later than twenty one next year. I think 683 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: they might be good. They might win a playoff game. 684 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: And if they do, and I've had Milroe along for 685 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: that ride, well they're not going to try to not 686 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: do that, of course, you know the people the right, 687 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, No, they're never gonna just tank. I mean, 688 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: if if Rogers retires and it's Rudolph, then I don't 689 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: think they'll pick higher than twenty one. But if Rogers 690 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: hits all of a sudden, it might be like I 691 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: could really ride the fence and be a successful organization 692 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: now with this dude on the back burner, and maybe 693 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't have next year's first. I would that's the 694 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: last resort, but I've got a two and two threes 695 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: and a ton of cap space. I know I'm on 696 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: next years first, but I think I have my quarterback 697 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: with the other side of that equation, it would only 698 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: be for him. I would not do it for Sanders. 699 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: Is that we don't know, for example, who might be 700 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 3: available as a veteran player next year. 701 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want to be done with that. I 702 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: get it. And maybe Rogers comes back one more year, 703 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, right, but but I'd 704 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: like to turn the keys to Millroe in twenty six. 705 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: What if pick a player, I mean, you definitely could 706 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: get the cars and cousins, and what if maybe it's 707 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Dak Yeah, I mean, I mean there's those dudes, right. 708 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: I mean, what if one of those guys becomes available 709 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: because somebody's in cap hell the quarterback once out and 710 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 3: you have the cap. 711 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: Space to do it. Well, I still I still have 712 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: a lot of picks. I still have a lot of 713 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: cap space. I'm just not interested. I'm going to be 714 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: really hard. A future wouldn't bring that up. 715 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: But I mean, get to the point if I'm the 716 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: Steelers haven't done that since the sixties right now, in 717 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: the mid sixties when they traded away from Take Gail Sayers. 718 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: Or Dick Butkus, right, and I understand that two Hall 719 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: of Famers. That's why they don't do that stuff anymore. Right, 720 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: But if a year from now, I'm willing to give 721 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: up twenty five thirty two picks later and the next 722 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: year's first, why aren't I willing to give up twenty 723 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: five for the same for the guy that I know 724 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: for a second round pick I if I love him, 725 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean I have to be in love. Well, if 726 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: you love him, then you take him at twenty one. 727 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: And that's the other CONTA. He would be in my 728 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: top twenty one and Sanders would not. If I redid it. 729 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't want Sanders for the Steelers. That's that's settling 730 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm that's that's 731 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: taking a you know, that's taking Kenny Pickett again. We've 732 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: already been down that road. That's not going to change 733 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: my franchise enough. I'm out on him. I'm out on 734 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: Dart for If they're all on the board and they're like, 735 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: you get to work with one of the these guys 736 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: for the remainder of their rookie contract, I'm picking mill 737 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: Row because it might be the next one the other 738 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: guys won. 739 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 3: I think I definitely think he has the highest ceiling 740 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: of any quarterback in this draft. 741 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm just starting to think through. But he also has 742 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: the lowest floor. Absolutely, yes, not the lowest floor, but 743 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: a little. I mean, if we're talking about those those 744 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: top five or six quarterbacks, he's got the maybe the 745 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: lowest floor. Yeah, I mean I could I could see 746 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: a path where he becomes Anthony Richardson. Yeah, I was 747 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna say I could see a path where he's the 748 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: version we know right now of fields or that. Yeah, 749 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: And that's not good enough to give up future stuff. 750 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: But that guy's still in the league, I mean, and 751 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna got a lot of chances and boy 752 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: can you run. But he was the eleventh pick in 753 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: the draft. I know, I know, I know it's a 754 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: little different, you know what I mean. But I'm just 755 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: looking at Milrow like if i I've gone on die tribe, 756 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: with die tribe, next year's build the nest, go all 757 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: the way and get your guy. And I believe that 758 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: to no end. But if there's one here, it's him, 759 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: And if so and I can get him cheaper, then well, 760 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: but now to seven, you're not getting him cheaper. If 761 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: you're trading next year's one, well to get the seven 762 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: overall next year is going to be way more expensive 763 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 1: to get to thirty five this year. That one's gonna 764 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: be evolved no matter what. You know what I mean, 765 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a hard time trading the one don't 766 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: get but yeah, I'm not in on that with you. 767 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: I can't go if I took him to dinner and 768 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: I adore the kid, and I'm not letting anybody know. 769 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: And they haven't brought him in for a visit, which 770 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: I think is on purpose, or bring him in Jackson 771 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: Darst Pro Day. But I thank they took him at dinner. 772 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: They were at his pro Dace, Tomlin and con were 773 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,959 Speaker 3: not at Jackson Dark Project day. That was a let's 774 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: bring him in. Yeah, we didn't get a chance to 775 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: go that way. 776 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: I've brought a mill row on Twitter and people are like, well, 777 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: he's not in for a visit. I'm like, I don't 778 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: think they have any more questions. Yeah, I think they know. 779 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: They don't. Why would they bring him in for a visit? 780 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: And Telly when they love him, if they love them, 781 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: and that's my that's my tinfoil half for the day. Okay, 782 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: tell Matt how crazy he is on YouTube this is 783 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: my boy him. It might be okay, we're gonna get 784 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am 785 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive. You're on the 786 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back with more right after this. 787 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 788 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 789 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 790 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: And welcome back on Dale Lolli. He is the Matt 791 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt. One thing we didn't talk about yesterday 792 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: was o Leo Jones retiring over the Oh. 793 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big one. I mean he's been semi 794 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: retired for a while then, yeah, yeah. 795 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 3: I mean this isn't like Anthony Chickilo announcing his retirement a. 796 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: Couple of years ago, like two years after he had 797 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: played after nobody wanted them an yeah, but nobody wanted 798 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: to Julio Jones, the last couple of years have been rough. 799 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's been holding on by a thread. 800 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 3: Where do you rank him among receivers since two thousands? 801 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: Very very high. I think everyone remembers how good Antonio 802 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: Brown was when he was in his heyday and phenomenal, 803 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: phenomenal football player. AB. Yeah, I think Julio was equal. 804 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: I thought those two were clearly the best two at 805 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: that position. There was a stretch where Odell was third, 806 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: but it was short yeah, and didn't withstand yeah as 807 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: long crashed. But those two to me were basically equals. 808 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: I give ab the edge just because of the touchdown catches. 809 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: That's the one area that's weird that Julio doesn't catch touchdowns. Yeah. 810 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson was like that too, Like you're you're huge. 811 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: It go as ball skills as you think. Just because 812 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: you're big doesn't mean you can go up and Larry 813 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald it over there. But I think he's equal to 814 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: like a Larry Hmmm. I would I would put like 815 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: the all time receiver Larry since two thousand. Larry Fitzgerald 816 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: and Calvin Johnson might be one. Two for me. Calvin 817 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: would be very very very high. And then I think 818 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: a B is number three. So like, even if we 819 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: just go my wide receiver rankings all time, Rice has 820 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: to be one. I think Moss is pretty clearly two. 821 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: Calvin might be three for me. T O is high 822 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: as high as those guys. He's hard to root for 823 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: I would take I would take, I take Larry, Yeah, 824 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: i'd take in a b over and I take and 825 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: I take. Well, yeah, they're just more, they're tougher to 826 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: play against. Yes, I mean good, But the locker room 827 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: stuff has to Well, if we're gonna say t O 828 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: t O, isn't That's what I'm saying about. It doesn't 829 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: help his that doesn't. That's about the player. Yeah, Like 830 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: I might take all those guys over Marvin Harrison, I mean, 831 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: or Bruce or Holt. Yeah, a lot. It was just 832 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: because of size, you know, like you want to line 833 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: up against Calvin Johnson for sixty snaps, but ab it 834 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: was different. Maybe he's different, he's not as big as 835 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: physical And it did Matt. 836 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: I mean again, I saw every game the guy played. 837 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 3: He was doubled all the time. Yeah, and it didn't matter. 838 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: People hate hearing this, but he's clearly the best dealer 839 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: receiver ever in terms of talent. Yeah, in terms what 840 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: he did on the football field, yeah, I mean he was. 841 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: And for me to say Julio was basically his equal 842 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: with the when they were their peak of their powers. 843 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: That's why you're bragging about it. How good Julio is 844 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: he's awesome. 845 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 3: From twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen, Antonio Brown averaged averaged 846 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: one hundred and fourteen receptions for fifteen hundred and twenty 847 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 3: five yards and eleven touchdown catches. That was his average season. 848 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: That's Joe blow average season. I think Julio's is about 849 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: the same up for the touchdowns. Yeah, the touchdowns are lesser, 850 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: but there was a stretch there before Julio's last couple 851 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 1: of years and AB's were weird too, where their yards 852 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: per game were like eighty five average something. 853 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 3: Again, the last game that Antonio Brown played as a 854 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 3: Steeler down in New Orleans, he was the best player 855 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: in the NFL that day, Yes, the entire league. 856 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: In the entire league, like undisputed. Yeah, he just was. 857 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: There's nobody had a game like the game that he 858 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: had down there. What I thought was unbelievably impressive too, 859 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: was after things went a little awry in his in 860 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: his life, in his career, no one could cover him 861 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: when he was a buccaneer, right yeah, I mean he 862 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: had already frozen his feet and complared saying about his 863 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: face mask and all that stuff. I'm not saying he's 864 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: on a weird. I'm might say he wanted babysitting my 865 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: newborn kids or anything. But he could get open and 866 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: he would catch the foot. I bet he could get open. Now, 867 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean probably Jolio's feet fell apart, like he couldn't 868 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: move anymore, and that was always one of the issues 869 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: in his career. He came in with the foot issues 870 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: and he withstood that and played through a lot of 871 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: pain and a lot of injury, and at the end 872 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: it just got the better of them. But Julio's maybe 873 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: a top five of all time. I mean I think 874 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: that he's right there, at least in the modern day. 875 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: Like you look at the seventies receivers, with all respect 876 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: to Swan and Stalls, I'm not that impressed with that group, 877 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: you know, Like when you look at the all time 878 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: less they also had to deal with some different rules. 879 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: Way it's way different. I mean people are like, watch 880 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: the games. I mean it's malbluma, ta can throw it 881 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: on your head middle yea yeah. But I mean the 882 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: fact that Swan and Stalls were to me clearly the 883 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: best two receivers in the seventies, Like people talk about 884 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: those cowboy guys. Okay, I mean they're not like all 885 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: time great. So then you get in the eighties and 886 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: it's like Largent was awesome for a while, and then 887 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: you get into like the Rice era, and then it 888 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: starts to become like the Golden Age of receivers. You know, 889 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: the Mosses and t O's and Larry's and Holts and 890 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: those type of dudes, and now they're every everywhere. Anyways, 891 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: I just thought Alo is a really good player, and yeah, 892 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: that's why I thought we should mention that. Yeah, we 893 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: definitely should. But anyways, let's 894 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 3: Get to a break that's going to do it for 895 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 3: our number one of the Drive here on the Steelers 896 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 3: Audio Network, Matt, and now I'll be back with our 897 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: number two of the Drive right after this.