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Speaker 1: Just be We're not going to break it down right now.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it later. We have a special

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Speaker 1: guest today, Becka Martinez and her co host Jess Ambrose

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Speaker 1: are coming on the podcast today to talk everything Bachelor

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Speaker 1: But before we do, Ashley, I want to just make

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Speaker 1: this season has not been bad. I will never categorize

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until this episode that I was I feel hooked.

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Speaker 1: I am always latch John to the drama. Interesting. Well,

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Speaker 1: Go to Batchel Live on Stage dot com for more info. Ashley, Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 1: start off with a la drama. So you know, well,

424
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: I thought last week he guaranteed Ala was going to

425
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: stick around for another week with that Rose. Apparently that

426
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: Rose camped around for like twelve hours. I did not caring.

427
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: No one is safe with the Rose. Apparently nobody is

428
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: saying that was crazy to me. Rose ever been taken

429
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: back before in our memories. I can't remember when, but

430
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: I do think it points Like you say, we can

431
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: say all those things about Peter, and I think Peter

432
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: is going to do great. I would just continue to

433
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: reassure him, like, this is gonna be great for you, man,

434
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: all this is gonna end. Well, it's gonna hurt for

435
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: a while, but like you're gonna end on a high

436
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: note here. I think what it points to is he's

437
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: so confused and he just wanted to He thought it

438
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: was going to be a good decision. Then it becomes

439
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: a bad decision. Then he has to take it back

440
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: and now he's lost again. And I think we're what

441
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: we're seeing is we can watch it from TV and

442
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: go I'm following the storyline. I don't think Peter is

443
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: following anything right now. And I think he thought he

444
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 1: was going to squash the drama by getting her off

445
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: again and then nope, there's still or there's a thing.

446
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if I said this on the podcast

447
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: last week, but he definitely thinks micro not macro. He's like,

448
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: what is going to be like good for me and

449
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: her in this moment, without thinking about how it's going

450
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: to work out for everyone and like the bigger like

451
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: when he takes the girls aside and like asks them

452
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: or when he oh it's later in the episode, but

453
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: when he brought up to Kelsey like, yeah, so some

454
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: girls said you were mentally unstable. Just wanted to check

455
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: in on that. Why would you, like, you have no

456
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: idea the drama you're bringing upon yourself when you're doing this, man, Like,

457
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: nobody's going to get defensive when somebody calls you crazy crazy,

458
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: press off, no problem if you were an alcoholic and

459
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: mentally unstable. Big just wanted to check with you on

460
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: that and your perspective. For I think he really doesn't

461
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: know what he's doing when he like communicates with the

462
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: women sometimes Yeah I feel okay, so but yeah Lah,

463
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: so he lets orgo and I think for her, I

464
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: felt bad for her too. I mean, but she was

465
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: taking her beating. Man. It was it was And we

466
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: talked about this on our podcast that we're not a

467
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: Leah fans, but we think that, I mean, none of

468
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: it was valid except that they personally didn't like her absolutely,

469
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: So that's what I keep saying. She definitely wouldn't be

470
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: friends with Becca and I in the house, not our

471
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: cup of tea. But the thing is, she never really

472
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: did anything. It was all hearsay and it was all

473
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: just vibe. It was like vibes and it was all

474
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: personal Sydney, which we see again Sydney. Sydney is a

475
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: good carniver. You know why because she um, she hasn't

476
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 1: done anything wrong. And yet I'm still very worried about her,

477
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm worried I would not she would worry me

478
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: in the house, like she was going to try to

479
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: get me into something without implicating. Yeah, exactly when I

480
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: opened around Sydney. Truly, even here as a host in

481
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: this podcast, I don't know what to say to her.

482
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Is like worrying me

483
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: about her because I'm a little afraid that I'll get

484
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: myself in trouble because I have nothing to go off well,

485
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: because she goes, because she goes on the attack, and

486
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: when she goes on the attack, she doesn't back down.

487
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: She is like, yeah, I don't know. They found the

488
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: right word to use, the one word that's like not

489
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: super offensive. But yet we can look at it a

490
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: couple different ways as mysterious. And then he tells he

491
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: calls her mysterious and she goes. I get told that

492
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: all the time. I know, I think I'm so mysterious too, right,

493
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Like just just shake it up a bit. Okay, here,

494
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: let's organize your thoughts a little bit. We've got to

495
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: walk through this episode one one time because we have

496
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: to make a story at the end. And I have

497
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: a question for all of you. Actually included that I

498
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: think I've unlocked the key to trying to figure out

499
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: how Peter gets better here and what happens um we

500
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: see le go home, Peter Cracks's head open, the girls

501
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: are are fighting, Sydney goes on on on one on

502
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: one day, and then we're back in the house. Kelsey

503
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: is venting the Tammy and this really sets the tone

504
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: for the rest of the episode. This scene here is

505
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: really the way that this rest kind of the rest

506
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: of the episode of shakes out from. When you see this,

507
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: I know that you all have your opinions. I'm gonna

508
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: let you take it over. Actually, I know you're you're

509
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: saying that she's not crazy, she's not drunk, she has

510
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: nothing to be ashamed of here. How do you know

511
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: about to say that he apparently knows me too well

512
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: and my interpretations of people in the episode. Okay, well

513
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: you know what I was just about to say that,

514
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: So obviously I'm on Kelsey's side. Here, I was the

515
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: crier in the house, the very emotional person in the house,

516
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: and I couldn't stand being emotion shamed, and she is

517
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: like being emotion shamed like no other. Like I can't

518
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: believe that she's crying, like really minding her own business.

519
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: And yeah, sure, maybe she had too much drink, but like,

520
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: is that also a crime in the house or anywhere? No,

521
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: So then like Tammy makes it like she has a problem,

522
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: one a drinking problem. And then there's like the whole

523
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: pill popping problem. Oh my god, what she she's seen

524
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: at night taking her like nightly birth control and like she's,

525
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so horrible. But then, um, but

526
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: like why would Tammy. Tammy really thinks this is a

527
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: red flag that she needs to bring up, Peter because

528
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: she's overly emotional, are you kid? Here's the other issue,

529
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: this is the almost the bigger issue that I have

530
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: with it. One, she doesn't own up up to it

531
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: when Kelsey says who said something? And she just sits

532
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: there minding her own business, like not owning up to it.

533
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: And secondly, when Kelsey finally confronts her about it, like

534
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: did you talk about me? She says she turns around says,

535
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about you. That is such. She says, I'm

536
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: concerned about you, but then later says Mike Concer scerns

537
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: about you are infringing on my relationship with people. Both

538
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: of those is trash. I'm not giving my heart and

539
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: headspace enough to Peter. I'm giving it to you. I

540
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: was like, mother Ef, So yeah, I don't think I've

541
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: ever seen you so impassionate. And the thing is we're

542
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: emotional emotional. Most shaming shaming is where Ashley gets passionate.

543
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's just really, this is the thing I

544
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: have with the girls these seasons. This season, they just

545
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: keep bringing up stuff that's not just shut your mouth.

546
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: It's they're making it just personal, like you don't like someone,

547
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go tell Peter that they're a

548
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: bad person because of this reason, this reason, Annister like,

549
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: I just stay away from them in the house. You

550
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: don't need to be their best friends. Just like. What

551
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: also bothers me is they keep we we talked about that,

552
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: we were texting about this last night. They keep saying

553
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: Peter's not respecting us, or we don't trust Peter. They

554
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: are not respecting Peter because they did not respect his

555
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: judgment with a Leah first of all, which I always

556
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: think trust the person's judgment that they're going to figure

557
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: out about this person's character. I said, Okay, of course

558
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: we say that, and that tattling is always a bad

559
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: look show. But for Peter not to make like that

560
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: decision to take it on for himself that early on

561
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: in the season, right weird to me? Yes. Well, then

562
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: when he turned it around and said, like when he

563
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: actually gave the rose back to her, like, I understand

564
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: how they were pissed because all of them wanted her gone,

565
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: but I was also like what he was asserting was

566
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be swayed by petty drama and

567
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: this is what I want and this is what my

568
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: heart wants. And I thought that that was actually admirable

569
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: of him. I don't think he should have sent her

570
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: home in the first place if he didn't want to,

571
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: but like I thought, it was even more wishy washy

572
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: than when he sent her home after and then like

573
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, and then and then they're also now

574
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: still tattling about Kelsey, about her being emotionally unstable all this,

575
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sure he'll figure it out on his own.

576
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: Why is her crying affecting them? It? It's not, and

577
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: they can't keep to themselves about other people's business. Ben

578
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: the thing when all of you there in the room

579
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: are in committed relationships and if you're not currently then

580
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: you've been through them. I don't know about you, but

581
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: there's one thing that happened to me this week where

582
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: I was watching it and I was trying to mirror

583
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: into my own life. And I have a girlfriend now

584
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: who it's a very healthy relationship, and I've never heard

585
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: her intentionally like bring down somebody else that's not in

586
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: the room. Like if she has a problem, she'll confront

587
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: that person and say, hey, I don't understand where you're

588
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: coming from, Like you don't make sense to me right now,

589
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: like I want to understand this better. But she would

590
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: never come to me as her partner and be like

591
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: that girl is crazy, she's a drawn from her, stay

592
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: away from her. She would never murder somebody's name like that,

593
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: And if she did, it would be a red flag

594
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: for me because I know that's not making me a

595
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: better person and making me love people anymore. While So

596
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: my point here is if Peter has all these women

597
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: coming to him all the time, bad mouthing somebody else

598
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: in the house, at some point he has to look

599
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: around and go, there is not like a woman here

600
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: who could be totally okay. Well then, Ben, did any

601
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: women come to you on your time as the Bachelor

602
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: talking about talking about another woman and you actually appreciated it? Honestly?

603
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get this wrong, and one of

604
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: the super fans out there will probably tell me my

605
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: life more than I remember it. I can't remember. I

606
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: don't think so there there really was never. I mean,

607
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: the one villain on my season was Olivia. But Olivia

608
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: wasn't like a villain. She wasn't mean to be. She

609
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: wasn't a bad person. One of the girls, I know,

610
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: one of the twins came to me at some point

611
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: and said, hey, like Olivia like hurt me. And I

612
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: remember her crying. But it was a big moment. That

613
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: was maybe the only time it wasn't Olivia sucks, it's hey,

614
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Olivia hurt me, which is different, Like I'm in paying

615
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: I need to talk about it with somebody um outside

616
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: of the girls, and I get that, Like that's fine.

617
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: She was confiding in me, but I don't remember that,

618
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: or I was thinking, like Hannah season with Luke, I

619
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: think some of the guys came forward to her saying that,

620
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: like Luke is lying about this and that, and like

621
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: if I was the lead and someone said like, hey,

622
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: this person is telling you this and they're directly lying

623
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: and saying something completely different with us, I would want

624
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: to know about that. But just being like we don't

625
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: like her and we think she's fake, or we think

626
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: that she's emotional, it'd be like, stop wasting my time. Yeah,

627
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: if you find out that, like someone has a boyfriend, like,

628
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: please let me know. But if you're like, she bothers

629
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: me because like she wears too much perfume in her

630
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: voice is too high, Like, don't talk to me about it.

631
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: I just want to go about my way and choose.

632
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to choose. Well, he is kind of indulging

633
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: in it too, which is a little bit part of it.

634
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: I know that I'm critical here because I've definitely calm

635
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: to people on the show. I've been like I don't

636
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: like her. I don't know, I don't know how you

637
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: like her. Why did you do that? Actually? Because I

638
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: get you. Yeah, but um, well, I think there are

639
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: different circumstances. Um. I think that it was more I

640
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: don't do I have to get into the past now,

641
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: how I want to know your thought process? Um it

642
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: was I guess it was kind of like what Kelly

643
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: was saying, or it was like, how can you like

644
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: me and also like her at the same time when

645
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: we're completely Kelly said that on her one on one

646
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: about who she like, brought hannah An out as an example,

647
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: but she was like, don't make it a big deal.

648
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: She don't make it's just like like like a different place. Yeah,

649
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: So I think it was more like that. It was like,

650
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: how can you get along with something like that and

651
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: then also get along with me? And and me also

652
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: saying he's like because she's tall. I don't know, because

653
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: there's like the fake thing, and I'm like, I'm all

654
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: about like calling people out from being fake too, and

655
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: because that's because I think they're not being genuine in

656
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: the in the circumstance that is the Bachelor. I say,

657
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: waited out though, like there's thirteen girls he's gonna start cutting. Really,

658
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: I do think this is too early to be doing all.

659
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: It's like once you get into the top like six

660
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: or seven or that kind of thing, and then you're

661
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: like seeing this their relationship really deepen and maybe if

662
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: there's some serious red flags. There's so much to say

663
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: about this episode, well hey we do. We have to

664
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: move forward into the group date. The girls are doing

665
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: a photo shoot with Peter for cosin Paul and I'll

666
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: start this conversation now by saying, there's never been a

667
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: date more awkward in my opinion than this one here

668
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: and I'll let you take it from there. Horrible. We

669
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: are going to revisit Kelsey though, right, We're definitely gonna

670
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: be too much. So yeah, there's um it's a weird date.

671
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: The Cosmo day is definitely like I would be, oh girl.

672
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: I like how Cosmo is trying to rebrand too. They're

673
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: like We're all about empowering women, like that's our mission.

674
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, because I think it's just like seventeen

675
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: ways to suck as you know what. I will say, No,

676
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: Cosmos different, and yes, I do right for Cosmos, so

677
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: I know I have to. I do have to defend

678
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: them though, because I feel like Cosmo has changed a

679
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: lot over the past couple of years. Here to the

680
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: fact that I even like, I'm like, where are those

681
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: sex tips? Like, I'm like I need them now? Where

682
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: are they for them? I know? And now I can't

683
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: find them? And now it's all about like doing great

684
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: in your career and moving ahead and beating the boys.

685
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm like darting. I'm like, I'm like, I need the

686
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: other stuff as well, please, but I have questions. Okay,

687
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: so yeah, they take pictures. Um, It's just it's I

688
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: felt like this day was much stubb substance to it,

689
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: Like there's not much to talk about except for the

690
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: fact that it was. No one made a big deal

691
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: about Victoria kissing him, which with us, I was going

692
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: to say, we have to stick on this. Yes, I'm

693
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: with you. I feel like I feel like this date

694
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: was very on brand to the dynamic that's been going on.

695
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Let's make it a competition about what girl gets to

696
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: be on the cover of Cosmopolitan. That's vicious. That's the

697
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: only group date competition I've ever truly wanted to win.

698
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's football or like, you don't

699
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: want revolved clothing. Actually that was a good one, Really wasn't.

700
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, here's the thing though, I had one rule

701
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: really like I did a lot of things wrong during

702
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: my time in the batchelor. I do tell anybody, this

703
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: is a good rule to keep if you're gonna be

704
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: the lead. At one rule that I stuck to, don't

705
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: kiss any of the other contestants in front of the

706
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: other contestants. Ever. That's what I'm saying, no matter what

707
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: the scenario, never do that, That's what I'm saying. He's

708
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: like oblivious to the drama that he's inciting between the women.

709
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: It's really not aware of it. And he was kissing

710
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: the favorites, so like, of course it's going to spark

711
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: issues like I don't know how you do that, which

712
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: it surprisingly didn't that we didn't. It didn't. I think

713
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: he's just been doing it so often they're like, oh,

714
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: this is part of the competition, I guess. So normally

715
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: it would be like, oh, I am accidentally walked by

716
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: that room while they were having their one on one

717
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: time and they were kissing. But nothing like on a podium,

718
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: like except for like you know, Karen and Nick that

719
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But that was like sort of on brand. Yeah,

720
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: So later at the cocktail um hour, I love Natasha.

721
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Natasha because you kill it. She's just so funny because

722
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: she's always she's always just basically like f Peter. I

723
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: think any time her and Peter have had a conversation,

724
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: it's her confronting him. I don't think it's a preparting conversation,

725
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: not involving a confrontation talking about like talking about other

726
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: people during your time. But sometimes you have to just

727
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: say sometimes like you don't know what the heck else

728
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: to talk about because you don't have any friends outside

729
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: of this thing. You'd have no commonalities like in front

730
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: of you. You're not like on a regular date where

731
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: you can be like this beer is good. Um, Like

732
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: have you watched that show like on the TV, Like

733
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of things that don't come up

734
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: naturally and every you know how You're like, I know

735
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: this is random, but like on the show, everything is random.

736
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Every conversation you just like context out of air. That's

737
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: so interesting. I haven't thought about that. Yeah, oh, I've

738
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: fully spill all the team in Sure there's somebody we

739
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: can talk about that we both know. I would almost

740
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: keep her around too, just for accountability. I almost feel

741
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: like at this point, he's like, I don't think you

742
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: like me that much. For whatever reason, you've stuck around, Like,

743
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep you here because it keeps me a

744
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: better person for you if you stick around a little while.

745
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: So like, let's make it work. At this good day,

746
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: Kelsey says that she's falling in love with him and

747
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Hannah Ann gets the group date Rose he really feels

748
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: like she's been giving. It's so funny because we couldn't

749
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: stand to Hannah and at beginning this is fine. Now

750
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: she's pretty much the only one that I have neutral

751
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: to positive feelings about. I would say my most neutral feelings. Yes, yes,

752
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: that's a really really don't just bypass that thought. We

753
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: will for the stake of this podcast for time, but

754
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: just mark that in your history of your life and

755
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: remember that as the season goes on that at one

756
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: point you said the only one I'm can see am

757
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate seriously? All Right, So then there's more Kelsey stuff,

758
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: but we will that's where like the hell kelsey emotional

759
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: unstability comes in, but we'll we'll address that when she

760
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: goes to have her one on one time and he

761
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: earlier in the episode, So the next date is Kelly's day,

762
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: and I again love Kelly because she is like so

763
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: to me real, she's just not going to giggle at

764
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: things that aren't funny. She's also not that into him.

765
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: She's not that she was when they first met, that's

766
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: for sure. I think that's why she's been kind of

767
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: like spiraling, Like when she got the one on one day,

768
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: she's like, oh shoot, like oh yeah, so awkward. Even

769
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: when he asked her to accept the rose, I feel

770
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: like she would have been okay if he said, I'm

771
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: actually not going to give it to you. She's over it.

772
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: I think she's been like all these girls are fighting

773
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: over this guy, and she's like, yeah, he's cute and

774
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: he's very very sweet. But I and I think that

775
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Peter is a smart guy and he's a great conversationalist.

776
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying anything about his intelligence whatsoever, um,

777
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: but I think that he she probably just wants somebody

778
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: who will be like a little bit more cerebral. Well,

779
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: and he's naive, like you said, like she's not. Yeah,

780
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: like she wants to talk about law and politics and

781
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I don't know if that's what

782
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: he may want to talk about that. But in demonstration

783
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: of like how he is, and when he talks about

784
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: with the other girls, it doesn't like it doesn't come

785
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: across to her, probably like he does, because his conversations

786
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: with the other girls are so classic Bachelor. From what

787
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: we're seeing, it's like, I'm feeling great about us? Are

788
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: you feeling good about us? Oh? That's awesome. I really

789
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: like the way that like we're doing and like you're

790
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: showing me like a beautiful heart and soul. And that's

791
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: why I loved watching their day because it was like, oh,

792
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: this is an actual conversation. We are like going back

793
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: and forth about our opinions. I feel like, sorry, go ahead. Then,

794
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: well I was just gonna say, let's too, but as

795
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: you search a ship, I thought, here, I want to

796
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: just preface this with with understanding where Kelly's coming from. Yes,

797
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't love the fact that she told him she's

798
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: how mature she is. Well you all listening. Yes, that

799
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: drove me up the wall and it was my first

800
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: thing that really made me angry. But I also get

801
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: where she's coming from because we just kind of skipped

802
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: over it, which was good that we did, but we

803
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: have to bring it back. Now that we're talking about this,

804
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: there's a context here where Tammy and everybody's arguing right,

805
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: and these girls are watching this. Some girls are giggling,

806
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: Some girls like pull out their popcorn and are watching.

807
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: Other girls are like witnessing from afar. This gets wild

808
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: fast as Kelly sits there within it as somebody probably

809
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: is a little more mature, is pretty smart, like really smart,

810
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: and it's going, this is crazy. I don't fit in here. Yeah, yeah,

811
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: she definitely doesn't fit in there not And I get

812
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: where she's coming from when she does bring up like,

813
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't see myself being like any of

814
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: these other girls, so like, do we have a future together?

815
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: What you want? And maybe it's problematic if someone says

816
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: that they're more mature if they're not, But she seems

817
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: so clearly more mature, like you're saying, demonstrate thing that

818
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: she's never getting involved in any of the drama. We

819
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen her involved in any of it yet, and

820
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure she feels like on an overwhelmed basis more mature.

821
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: I mean I would never today. I would also feel

822
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I hope I haven't said that about myself.

823
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: I would feel uncomfortable saying about that myself like, I'm

824
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: very mature for my age. But that's why. That's why

825
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: when I say that I'm as you were the one,

826
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: isn't it crazy being attacked for it? So that's different.

827
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy how at twenty three you were you

828
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: were the young one. Now it's like the average age

829
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: I know. And it's also that's the thing. So I'm

830
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: sitting here watching it and I'm like, oh, I feel

831
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: so mature for my and this is just such. It's

832
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: just all dumb. It's just all dumb. It just sucks.

833
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: They do so many of them suck this season. I'm sorry,

834
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: Like they really screwed Overpeat with this grapp of women.

835
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: I really think. So they're really pretty. I mean that's

836
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: what every time, like somebody says that, like I get

837
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: the response it's like, they're really pretty. That's what I

838
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: get from guys. But I'm finding myself so much less

839
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: like attracted to that. I thought that they were so

840
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: physically attractive, and I'm finding them so much less physically attractive.

841
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: As I'm watching this stuff play out, I can understand

842
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: they don't find them as pretty as I did at

843
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: the beginning, and understand and Colton had a lot of

844
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: young women, but it wasn't the same kind of drama

845
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: or the level of it, or the pettiness we've talked

846
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: about many times on the podcast. Just how as we

847
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: get to know the contestants at first, everybody's beautiful, Um,

848
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: I want you to know how more their stories start

849
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: to show when you start to have your favorites. Here's

850
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: the thing, and we'll get into it in a second.

851
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: Uh right now, Favorites are a plenty on this season.

852
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: We come back, we're gonna summarize the ending of the

853
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: episode that's definitely wild and crazy. We're also going to

854
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: talk favorites. I have a question for these three that

855
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: I think might help us understand Peter a little bit better.

856
00:44:53,800 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: But let's take a break and come back. Okay, So

857
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: here's the scenario. Everything's chaos, riots are ensuing, Peter's confused.

858
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: Cars are being flipped, and glasses are being slammed into

859
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: our faces. And now we get to this point in

860
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: the episode where Kelly's one on one happens and it

861
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: goes well. We like Kelly, we don't know if there's

862
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: anything there for them, And we get back to the end.

863
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: Kelsey sneaks over to the house. They have a really

864
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: good conversation. I'm just gonna summarize this quickly. They have

865
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: a great conversation. I felt like she was open and

866
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: honest with him, which is what you want in a relationship.

867
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: He responded, well, they have a great time, but it

868
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: brings about drama that we need to talk about. So,

869
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: and this is where my question for you three come in,

870
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let you loose here. So we know

871
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: that chaos has happened this season. We know there's a

872
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: lot of little fire starters that are talking about everybody else.

873
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: So what you would think to do as the lead

874
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: would be to cut off the dry mama at the

875
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: root totally. So are you referring to roses? Is that

876
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: a great like a little like that? Here's my question

877
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: for you, not intended. Where do you cut off the

878
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: drama this season? If you're Peter and everything's chaos around you,

879
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: no wonder he cancels the cocktail party because he can't

880
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: probably take any more of it. Where do you cut

881
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: off the drama? It's unclear to me. I want to

882
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: hear from you. I think it's in his position. I

883
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: don't think it'd be clear to him. But me watching

884
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: I know exactly who where are we going to say him?

885
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: He's the one that starts at all, just remove your season.

886
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Look in that conversation, he was the one that started

887
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: up the drama by being producible and naive by extending

888
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: Kelsey the rose in that moment, not seeing that by

889
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: doing so that was going to create far more drama

890
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: than if he were to just hold back and give

891
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: her the rose a couple of hours later. Because sure

892
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: he may have been thinking that moment, Oh, what a

893
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: relief she's going to be able to go into tonight.

894
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: Just chill, relax. It's a great feeling. It is a

895
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: great feeling going into a rose ceremony with a rose.

896
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: I never did. It seems like a great feeling. Um,

897
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: But she would have been for when she came back

898
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: to that. She's just holding it like it's like she

899
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: would have been far more relaxed if she didn't have

900
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: to come back, and she could have had with the

901
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: sense of their their conversation meant that she was through

902
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: to another week and she wouldn't have to explain to

903
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: the other girls that she got a rose early because

904
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: she went over there. She was rewarded going over there.

905
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: It's very true. It's true. Actually, it's quite a good point.

906
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: I see that I'm seeing a little trio of a

907
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: little of little Catty Catty junior high girl kind of

908
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: trio going on, and it's looking like Victoria pe City

909
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: and Victoria F. Wow. Not sure if I put Victoria there.

910
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: I want to hear your thought I want to hear

911
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: your thoughts. This is why I think Victoria F is

912
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: a huge red flag because virtually every time they have

913
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: a conversation, I actually so, you know when they had

914
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: a one on one talk this time and she was like,

915
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: you forgot my birthday. I thought she was going to

916
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: do the thing she does every time where she runs

917
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: into the corner says that she's going to live until

918
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: he begs her to say and says they have a connection.

919
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: I I half expected her to do that. Every single time.

920
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: It's always this thing of like, but I'm ruining this

921
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: for you, or like but I can't do this, and

922
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: then oh wait, actually I'm amazing. Like that's how she

923
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: during the photos. Yes, two weeks ago, she couldn't get

924
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: on stage during the like you know, she's so nervous

925
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: and so shy, and she's like she's sports illustration. She's

926
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: on a Cosmo cover now, yes, and with the heights thing,

927
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: and then she how she blew the in my opinion,

928
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: blew the chase things so out of proportionate. She just

929
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: always seems like a little bit like playing this manipulative

930
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: game where it's like I'm gonna and then he's like, no, don't.

931
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, that would get me to the right now.

932
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: I think it works. It would work. Oh, I would

933
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: be all about. I'd be like, no, please stay girl,

934
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: do whatever you need for a tame to see. I

935
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: think it totally would work. But I just did that

936
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: thing you just did when you're like, I'm not good

937
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: at this and you threw your arms up there a

938
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: second ago. I'm good at I've never found Beckham. I'm overcoming,

939
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like her thing. And then Victoria Pete,

940
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not addressing how she I don't know. No,

941
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't trust Victoria. First of all, there's the Alia thing.

942
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: Second um in this situation. Now, Victoria Pete is now

943
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: admittedly the one who brought up the pill popping, and

944
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: for some reason she's able to cross her arms and

945
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: be like, well, I admitted it, So now I don't

946
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: take any fault and everyone just let's appreciate that about her.

947
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: And then of course Sidney is just always like on

948
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: the attack, super like aggressive in people's faces, like she

949
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: is like yelling at people's faces. And when she confirmed,

950
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: when she decides to tell Tammy like I would never

951
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: consider talking about other girls to Peter, and it's like,

952
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: where were you, like three days ago, what were you doing?

953
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: And so Tammy said that back to her, he was

954
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: the starter she started. There's a lot of amnesia happening

955
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: in this season. It's like, I remember, like last week

956
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Peter said, Kelsey was like so drama free and low key,

957
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: and we're like, Peter, do you remember champagne Gate? This

958
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: happened like that was really I still think it's really

959
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: weird that he has it. So it's it's a tense

960
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: relationship with Kelsey, but like doesn't remember how like apparently

961
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: she was a bully a couple of weeks ago, and

962
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: he was so disturbed by the bully occusation. I still

963
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: can't get over this. So then Tammy throws it back

964
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: at Sydney and it was like you started the alaa stuff.

965
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: And then and then um, Sydney just totally deflects and

966
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: she's like, this is crazy, crazy crazy, she is nuts,

967
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: this is crazy. But it's like, whoa, Okay. I thought

968
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: that they were going to make it like I thought

969
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: they were going to actually show no support for Kelsey

970
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: this this episode. I thought like all the girls were

971
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: going to be like against Kelsey, and I was because

972
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: they had talked a bunch of crap on her behind

973
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: her back before. But I was so relieved to see

974
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: them turn on Tammy because Tammy really was the root

975
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: of this problem. Just seven though drama, Like we're talking

976
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: about drama. Kelsey last week was the least dramatic, but

977
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: like because she doesn't because the environment you're living in,

978
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: Like if everybody's dramatic and you just say a few

979
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: things that cause a fight, right now, you're looking pretty good,

980
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Like this is a pretty easy season to make it

981
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: to the end. Look at Maddie made a word, same

982
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: was Hannah and Hannah Ann has been really good too.

983
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: And then then Kelly is the other one who hasn't

984
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: really touched anything. Kelly's like, has her bagpack, She's ready

985
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: to dip in any second. She's like, I'm out, Yes,

986
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: we didn't hear from you. I really want to know

987
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: who you would cut off the route. I mean Sam

988
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: as Becca. To me, it's Victoria Pe and Sydney for

989
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: sure right now, because are that she's not going to

990
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: see the Sydney thing for I don't think he's ever.

991
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: I don't like he's going to the Sydney thing. Like

992
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: I said, she makes me very nervous. She makes me

993
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: scares me a little bit too, But she's the girl

994
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: that scares you, and you still you're like, I don't

995
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: think I'm going to go after her because I think

996
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: she's going to win the argument, even though I don't

997
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: know how she's going to win the argument. She's going

998
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: to It's Sydney, but it's Sydney. I would love to

999
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: see that. I would love to But Sydney and Victoria

1000
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: Pe are the two to me that I'm just like,

1001
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: baffled every episode who caused drama and somehow get away

1002
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: with everything. And the thing with Kelsey, which I appreciate

1003
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: is though yes there is is drama, everyone in the

1004
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: house seems to like her because they forget about the

1005
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: drama quickly. She just hasn't done anything to anyone else,

1006
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: right The only time she talked crap was with Hannah

1007
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: Ann and the whole champagne bottle, which you know that

1008
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: was a little bit of an exaggeration, but whatever. And

1009
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: before we move on from Kelsey, I have in my notes,

1010
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't be clear as the girl the spokesperson

1011
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: for the crying girls. Emotional doesn't mean insecure. Emotional doesn't

1012
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: mean that you're emotionally unstable. It doesn't mean that you're

1013
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: having an emotional breakdown when you're crying, even if you're

1014
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: crying every day, and an environment, even environment like The Bachelor,

1015
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: I think it's perfectly normal. Yeah, um, are you talking

1016
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: about Victoria f called her out and said this is

1017
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: a show for secure women, so like figure it out.

1018
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: She did say that that was bad, and then, um, like,

1019
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: being emotional doesn't mean that you're nuts. Um drinking, you

1020
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: can't call don't call her out on a drinking problem.

1021
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: You have absolutely no idea whether she hazard doesn't have

1022
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: way out of line. Her emotions are not infringing on

1023
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: anybody else's relationship with Peter, and that's basically all I

1024
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: have to say. There was a moment and it reminded

1025
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: me a lot of one week that I had in

1026
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: the batchel and it was the same week it was

1027
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: week five. She was like, you guys think that I'm

1028
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: the crazy one here for crying. Why the hell aren't

1029
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: you crying. You guys are being ridiculous for not crying.

1030
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't believe you guys like him.

1031
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you're not this emotional said that. She was like,

1032
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: I actually believe that. I think the only two people

1033
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: who are actually like, really in love with Peter are

1034
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: McKenna and Kelsey at this point. I believe Y hasn't

1035
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: talked to him yet. But she so honest, Like when

1036
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: Tammy said, like, did you talk about me? And Kelsey

1037
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: was honest. Kelsey said, yes, I brought up and I

1038
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: said that you said this and this, but that's all

1039
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: I said. And she was truthful one confronted about it.

1040
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: And I really don't love this part and team. We're

1041
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna get into your podcast here at the very end,

1042
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: so stick with us here. But I really want your

1043
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: honest feedback here. All this is funny games. This whole

1044
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: show is funny games. It can't work. I think we

1045
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: all agree, like, hey, this could possibly work. You know,

1046
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: we have a successful relationship sitting in the room from it.

1047
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: But you have to be really careful on the show.

1048
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: And I wish people would take this responsibility when they

1049
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: get casted for questioning somebody's character and saying something that

1050
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: could last with him outside of the show. In the show,

1051
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, do your thing. They get mad at each other,

1052
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: argue whatever, little tests, little fights. But the pill popping part,

1053
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand to me why this wasn't a bigger

1054
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: deal for everybody stopped in the room and go time out.

1055
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: This is a conversation and a serious conversation for us

1056
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: as we're just spouting it off when we're sitting at

1057
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: a cocktail party about somebody having a pill addiction that

1058
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: we're just going to pass over and argue about, Like

1059
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 1: how did nobody step up and go time out? Guys?

1060
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: This is a big deal, Like this could really hurt

1061
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: somebody for a long time, and she doesn't have to

1062
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: disclose her out of all prescription, which she was also

1063
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: talking about really private information. That was a really serious

1064
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: moment for me, Like that was I was watching this,

1065
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: I was saying, this is all funny. I'm laughing up

1066
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: until this point, and now somebody's back there going yeah,

1067
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: I just said she had a politiction because I said

1068
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: I saw her taking some pills. I know, it's so crazy.

1069
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: You should have seen the drug store that I have.

1070
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: But not for emotional stuff, right, Ashley, No, not at all.

1071
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's true, like this is sad and from

1072
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: somebody from me personally, who have who has struggled with

1073
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: pills in their life at different points in times like

1074
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: that to me was like you gotta be like this

1075
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: is this is not funny anymore. And but and then

1076
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: then it gets funny again, so then it gets out

1077
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: of it because then it kind of moves on to

1078
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: whatever else you're arguing about. And I do want to

1079
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: just highlight and so everybody should go watch this stuff

1080
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: as good again. Rewind it to this point. You have

1081
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: like three girls I don't know their names at this

1082
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: point that are sitting on the couch like in the

1083
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: back with their eyes wide open, just watching this go down.

1084
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: And I know these moments and I would love for

1085
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: the people have been on the show and jes for

1086
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: you they love this show to speak to this those

1087
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: moments where like everybody wonders how edited this is, these

1088
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: are the moments that cannot be edited this is this

1089
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Yeah, that was fun. It was It's so true.

1090
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: And also it's like, I don't know why people think

1091
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: it has to all be so produced. It's like, look,

1092
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: this season is a perfect example. Throw like twenty girls

1093
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: in a room throwing some alcohol with it and like boom,

1094
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: just stand back and let the fire, let the fire

1095
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: blow out of control. Yeah. Absolutely, So let's talk about

1096
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremonies. The cocktail party was canceled. Um, which

1097
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: is the perfect time, you know, perfect scenario for a roast,

1098
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: a rosy meremony cocktail party to be canceled. And Tammy

1099
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: can't um. So she interrupts and says, can I talk

1100
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: to you? She says, from what we saw, very inconsequential stuff, right,

1101
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: McKenna interrupts, and I didn't even really take note of it.

1102
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: I was like, this is no, she didn't say anything. Well,

1103
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: what I think is like what we said before, what

1104
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: we noticed in the beginning is it seems like like, um,

1105
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: you know how on the first episode, a lot of

1106
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: times the batchelor will just cut the people they didn't

1107
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: talk to, like you know, they're like I didn't get

1108
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to her. So if she's going home.

1109
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Peter did the opposite, where it's like he actually kept

1110
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: all the girls like the first night who he didn't

1111
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: talk to, and so it seems like now this time,

1112
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: it seems like if he has any like feelings at

1113
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: all and he still feels like he needs to test

1114
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: it out, he's going to give that person a chance.

1115
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's what happened with Tammy, like

1116
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: he wanted to see her side of this because he

1117
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: sent him Shannon and Lexie and it doesn't seem like

1118
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: he connection. There's never been any mentionable moments for them,

1119
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: and I guess like he and Tammy have kind of

1120
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: had some fun moments, so that's probably where he was like, Okay,

1121
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: I know there's no hope there, so we'll just move

1122
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: on from them. That seems to be more of his

1123
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: m O. I also wonder too, if it's like, at

1124
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: some point he's smart enough to go. I'm so confused

1125
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: right now. Everything is so chaotic. I'm not getting clear

1126
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: answers from anybody. At least. Tammy's like trying to like

1127
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: talk to me about stuff like, yeah, it's not pretty,

1128
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: She's probably not the one for me. This is not

1129
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: getting any better. But at least she's trying to communicate

1130
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: with me where some of these other women aren't at all.

1131
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: Even though the only community Asian is bad mouthing other people.

1132
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: That's not good either. Yeah. Question for you guys, do

1133
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: you think that those conversations that he was pulled aside

1134
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: for did anything and changing his mind? Or do we

1135
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: think that that was the roster he was going to keep.

1136
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it changed his mind. I don't think

1137
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: it did either. No, I'm going to agree with that

1138
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: they were just they were always, like you said, in

1139
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: consequential conversations. Yeah, and really time wasting. Yeah. I mean

1140
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: maybe they were longer. Maybe they did come across as

1141
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: being very short, but I think he kind of already

1142
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: had his mind made up for sure. I bet they're

1143
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: really short. You think about how awkward this is. He's

1144
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: sitting like fifteen ft away from the women. They're standing

1145
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: up there for god knows how long. At this point,

1146
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: they're all a little anxious and ready to get out

1147
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: of there, like he's probably going to keep those really

1148
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: really really short. Hey, um, team, I'm gonna go around

1149
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: the circle here. We'll start with Jess and end with Ashley.

1150
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Thoughts so far on the season. We'll keep this short

1151
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: and concise. Thoughts in the season, Thoughts on this last episode,

1152
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna take a break and we'll come

1153
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: back and talk all about Chatty Broad's with Becca and

1154
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: Joe jess Um thoughts in the season, Thoughts in this episode. Um,

1155
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: I think this season is a hot mess, but I

1156
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: love it, And um, I do really really love Peter.

1157
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a really genuine guy and I feel

1158
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: for him because I feel like it's going to just

1159
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: keep getting Messire. Who's your favorite? Do you have favorites

1160
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: right now? I mean I thought I did, but at

1161
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: this point people who weren't my favorites are starting to emerge,

1162
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: like Hannah and and God. I just hope McKenna gets

1163
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: a one on one next week. Give the girl a

1164
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: one on one? Okay, give the girl one. Uh. You know,

1165
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: I love hate this season because I think it's um crazy.

1166
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: But it's also sometimes like this episode is really infuriating

1167
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: for me to watch and kind of like triggering. When

1168
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: I was watching someone like Tammy was doing some gaslighting

1169
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: and Sydney was doing this whole deflecting thing, and it

1170
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: was just like frustrating. I wanted to be there and

1171
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: be like I don't want to see you be there

1172
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: to like, no, you need to be held accountable, owed

1173
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: up to it. Like there's that kind of thing that

1174
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: just really grinded my gears and frustrated me. There's been

1175
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: a lot of injustice this season that's really bothered me.

1176
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: Uh that being if you're speaking in justice, I felt

1177
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: like a Leah did, she's already gone. Um. And then

1178
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: now I just feel like there's injustice with women staying

1179
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: that I don't think should be staying, who are being

1180
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 1: consistently rewarded for behavior that is bad, and uh yeah,

1181
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: so that's frustrating. And then I think I think that

1182
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: maybe I'm kind of wondering, like what if Hannah Ann

1183
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: takes it all the way? I don't know. And then

1184
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: I see Madison being the bachelorette, so we are actually

1185
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: totally unspoiled, but they're not really giving us now we

1186
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: don't really know much about she will come back around

1187
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: once all the drama's gone in like Top six. But

1188
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: then then again, I don't know, because with all these

1189
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: super teases looking super crazy, like at the very end,

1190
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: it seems maybe it's like one of the bad girls

1191
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: goes all the way. I don't know, but I can't

1192
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: wait to see. My opinion is that it's been a

1193
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: really good season from a viewers perspective because it's been

1194
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: so dramatic. But I also don't think that Peter is

1195
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: going to find his wife in this bunch, and if

1196
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: he does, I think it might be it would be

1197
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: Maddie because yeah, yeah, because that's like I feel like

1198
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: he's been blinded by a lot of beauty, a lot

1199
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: of sexuality. I don't know how deep he's getting with

1200
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: some of these girls or he's being yeah yeah, I

1201
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: think he's getting like a little blinded by it. Out

1202
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: of all the bachelors to have to deal with this,

1203
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: I do feel bad. I really to really think he

1204
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: just wants his wife. I know, I really Webber. I know,

1205
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: I know Mrs Webber. I know he wants his Mrs Webber,

1206
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: And before this whole thing started, I knew he wanted that,

1207
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: and I do think that's why I think he's starting

1208
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: to catch up with it. But I really do think

1209
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: he walked in this season naive. Um. He had a

1210
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: fairy tale, a fairy tale like perspective of what this

1211
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: could be like he wanted everybody have such a good

1212
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: time that he thought everybody's gonna get along and and

1213
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: that changed quickly. But hey, it is The Bachelor. Listeners, Um,

1214
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break and we come back. Chatty

1215
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: Broad's Uh is a podcast that we've got to talk

1216
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: about with two of our very special guests who just

1217
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: broke down the whole episode with us. Thank you for that.

1218
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: We'll come back with Becca and Jess here in just

1219
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: a second. Chatty Broad's with Becca and Jess is all

1220
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: about balance. They chat all about The Bachelor, reality TV

1221
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: and spill the t half the week. The other half

1222
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: of the week, they discussed topics transparently like sexuality, spirituality, relationships, motherhood,

1223
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: mental health, and so much more. Episodes come out every

1224
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday, and you, yes, you can hear from

1225
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: the host yourself right now. Hey, Jess and Becca tell

1226
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: us about Chetty Broad's. First of all, you're such a

1227
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: good mc ben, I know coming back, I know what

1228
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: a host I like. I'm like, you take all the

1229
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: intros and outros, so it at it. I wonder right

1230
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: come back on The Bachelor that no wonder why he's

1231
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 1: hosting Bachelor Live. Yeah, seriously, I'm actually really curious about

1232
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: how that's going. But enough about you, more about us.

1233
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: What was the question? So, like, tell us about this?

1234
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: So I'm we obviously just broke down the episode. You're

1235
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: great at that, and we understand that about you too.

1236
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna talk pop culture and all those I really

1237
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: want to know about the sexuality, spirituality and relationships, mental

1238
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: health part of this, the stuff that's real, the stuff

1239
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: that your fans are listening to for an escape in

1240
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: a place to feel less alone. I imagine you to

1241
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: do that well, but I want to hear how you

1242
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: walk into those conversations and why you two as hosts

1243
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: are worthy to be listened to honestly. I mean, I

1244
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: feel like I'll tell us, um, I do feel like

1245
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: Becka and I are really We've made a commitment to

1246
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: be as vulnerable as possible, Like you're going to get

1247
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: the honest opinion and the honest truth about both of us,

1248
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: Like we're going to tell stories about ourselves that are

1249
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: not flattering and we'll be honest about it. And I

1250
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: think as of that, we've been able to really connect

1251
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: with our listeners on topics like sexuality. When we're having

1252
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: a rough go, We'll talk about it on motherhood. We're

1253
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: talking about how it's not easy, how it's tough. I've

1254
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: shared a lot about some of my mental health struggles,

1255
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of our listeners have been

1256
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: able to feel connected that way because they don't feel

1257
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: alone hearing us talk about our struggles pretty openly, and

1258
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: also like a lot of the topics happened to be

1259
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: topics that a lot of people can relate to. We

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Speaker 1: both come from super conservative evangelical backgrounds. Both of us

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Speaker 1: were home schooled at one point, and you know, it's

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Speaker 1: something that we really connected on and talked a lot

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01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: through the podcast. And cooling about the podcast is that

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Speaker 1: we've gotten to know each other while recording it, which

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01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: means that our listeners have joined in as we've developed

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Speaker 1: our friendship and have kind of been a part of

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Speaker 1: that friendship as it's evolved. But yeah, navigating that and

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01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: just navigating the things we don't know, navigating UM, our

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Speaker 1: relationships with our respective husband and boyfriend, and navigating our

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Speaker 1: identity UM alongside personal identists, identity alongside motherhood, navigating our

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Speaker 1: belief systems, and then also it's like, you know, every

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Speaker 1: once in a while we'll have like a quote big guest,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of the times people were having on

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: are just people that were interested in hearing from experts

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01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: and stuff that we're curious about, and even just some

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01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: of our listeners coming on to share their stories. And

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Speaker 1: so I think we've created a pretty cool, diverse community

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01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: in our little chatty broad's podcast world. That is so cool.

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Speaker 1: And can I say how much you educate me back

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01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: on your Instagram is so good. I have become so

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01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: much more like environmentally mental. That started with the podcast

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01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: Thank You Conscious. The podcast, we had a friend on

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01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: the podcast who was just really broke down a lot

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01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: of stuff that I had never even thought of, and

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: that kind of kicked me off on my journey. But like,

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Speaker 1: that's the cool thing about podcast that we are learning

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01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: so much and then get to share that with other people.

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Speaker 1: So it's really inspired me personally, just us having the podcast,

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: your compost pile and all the less trash you have

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01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: this week, I've been like, oh man, I can't I

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: can't believe how much trash Jared and I accumulate as

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Speaker 1: just two people living in a house. Hey, but the

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Speaker 1: awareness is like that's the first place, like once you

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01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: start realizing it, then you know whether it's changed now

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Speaker 1: or like two years from now, somebody start thinking about

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01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: like even paper towels, like I'll like try to keep

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Speaker 1: one on the counter, Like if I just wipe something

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Speaker 1: up really quick and there it's totally not fully absorbed,

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Speaker 1: I'll just keep it there for the next time. I suppose.

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Speaker 1: It's like small things like that. Once it starts coming

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Speaker 1: into you, awareness is so important. That's really cool. So

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Speaker 1: thanks Vecta for telling me. Yeah, I know you really

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01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: There's many things that I've learned from from your Instagram.

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01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, and which I knew came from the podcast,

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01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: which is why I bring it up because those are

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01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: the kind of things that I know you guys do

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: talk about the There's this interesting trend and I was

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01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: just speaking about it at a workshop I spoke at

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: this last week, and there's this trend in vulnerability that

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: is coming out and it's awesome, right, I Mean, vulnerability

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01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: has been something that we've always claimed we've been a

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01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: part of, but you know, we we're learning more and

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: more what we've been suppressed by. And as a Christian myself,

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: I get the whole like I come from a conservative

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01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: evangelical upbring. I understand what you're saying when you talk

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01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: about that the sexuality part of this is really interesting.

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Speaker 1: And the part of the workshop I was doing was

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Speaker 1: talking about this the new show on Netflix with the

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Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow on the Goop and then UM where they

1320
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: bring a bunch of women into the room UM and

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: they all get naked, and the whole purpose of this

1322
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: is to help everybody know that they're not alone. That

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Speaker 1: when they look at their bodies and they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is a weird thing growing off of this, or

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01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: is you know, are my parts all looking like other

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Speaker 1: women's or if they don't look like other women's in

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01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: my abnormal or whatever that is. And they show this

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01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: whole thing and it's beautiful because you have women for

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01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: the first time and sometimes fifty sixty years breaking down

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: going I've always thought there was something wrong with me,

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01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: and now I'm realizing that there never was. For you all,

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Speaker 1: I will send off with this. This has been something

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: like this is something I don't want to say'm passion

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 1: because it makes it sound like I'm an expert. I

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01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: just like I listen to those stories and you want

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: to break me down. Tell me somebody's sixty years old

1337
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: and just finding themselves for the first time. How heavy

1338
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: is that? And just like but also how beautiful is that?

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: So thank you Um, Rebecca and Jess for chatting about

1340
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: everything that matters and helping people feel less alone. I think,

1341
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: no matter what you're up bringing, no matter where you

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: come from, what your religious belief system, no matter if

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01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: you believe in God or not. Uh, I personally believe

1344
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: as a Christian that if we can feel less alone,

1345
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: we're doing something really right. Thank you, guys, appreciate that.

1346
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: Thank you and Becca. We can't let you go without

1347
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that you're pregnant. Also, are so

1348
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: real about pregnancy and all those struggles that go along

1349
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: with it. You don't don't do like the whole like

1350
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: it's like a mommy blogger thing where everything just seems

1351
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish I could be like that, but it

1352
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: just doesn't work out for me. But everybody loves the real.

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01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, so when you do, June, I feel

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: like I'm always pregnant. Now this is my new life.

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01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: It's almost like it's almost been two years since I've

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: been drunk, and I can't wait. So I've just been

1357
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: aching to go out with her. But it's it's cool.

1358
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: It's a new season and one where I'm learning so

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01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: much about myself. And uh, I love a good challenge,

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: so being a mom is pretty cool challenge. And uh,

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01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, just it's it's illuminated so many different

1362
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: aspects of myself that I didn't know existed, and that's

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01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: been really cool. And I'm gonna state right now where

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm just very like chill and mellow and fine with

1365
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: just being like a recluse and just I don't know.

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01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: It's a it's a new aspect and dynamic of my

1367
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: relation of my Yeah, I guess my relationship with myself

1368
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: and my personality that I hadn't explored before. Um, as

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01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: somebody who will end up trying to get pregnant without

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: within the next twelve months, give me it's it can't

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01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: It's not that much of a secret. I'm during thirty

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01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: two next month. Do you have to come off? I

1373
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: gotta get off spirit of lack tone. I got it.

1374
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: I got something to help me so bad with my skin. Um,

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01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it later. Your whole podcast about pregnancy

1376
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: skin on one of our other podcast my pregnancy skin

1377
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: was horrible. Your skin looks amazing. Right now, give me

1378
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: some words of encouragement because like so often I just

1379
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: get like so many people tell us to wait, Like

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01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: so many parents tell us like, well, you know, there's

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01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: some people who are like, don't wait too long, because

1382
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: you know you need like you know, the youth. But

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01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: then there's some a lot of people will come up

1384
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, wait as long as you can,

1385
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, oh god, why why we welcome

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: to l A. First of all, also, just and I

1387
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: both had unplanned pregnancies in very different scenarios. Her married

1388
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: and on birth control getting pregn yeah, that's a whole

1389
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: other that's a whole other story, swimmers, Yeah for sure.

1390
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: And then yeah, my storage is very different. But but

1391
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: you tried this time. No I thought I was planned. Okay, No,

1392
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: that's okay. You're a fertile woman. Nothing's planned in my

1393
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: life anymore, you know what kind of But what we did,

1394
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we had had conversations about wanting to have

1395
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: more children, and so it wasn't like like it just was.

1396
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: It was a different scenario and we're very excited and happy,

1397
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: and it was very like, oh, well, we weren't expecting that,

1398
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: but how exciting. And I guess it's going to happen

1399
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: now versus like a year or two from now. Um,

1400
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: I think that you know, people always have advice on

1401
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: how you should do things, and don't listen to him. Okay,

1402
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean not to any of it. Take it with

1403
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: a grain of salt for the people that care about

1404
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: you and have a lot of wisdom. But also, like

1405
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: I think Jess can agree, I mean, it's such a

1406
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: cliche that there's no perfect time to be a parent,

1407
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: but there's no perfect time to be parents. You're never

1408
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: going to know all the things, you're never going to

1409
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: be like in the perfect financial state, So it's not

1410
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: as scary as people make it, saying no, not at all.

1411
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, like the first week of finding

1412
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: out that I was surprised pregnant, I cried for a

1413
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: week just because it wasn't it was just out of

1414
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: my control, right and I'm a control freak, so that

1415
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: like waged me out. Um. But just like Becca was saying,

1416
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: it just feels like like every individual is different, Every

1417
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: pregnancy is different, every parenthood, like journey is different. So

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: when someone says a definitive. You know you should get

1419
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: pregnant at this point, or that's too later, too early,

1420
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: or you should do this or that. It's just also

1421
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: you're being in a place where you're wanting to consider

1422
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: make be so considerate and make the very best choice.

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01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: That means that you're ready to parents, right And you're like,

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01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean you see, I think you guys, Yeah, I

1425
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: do it always to hear all these kind of topics

1426
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: more Jess and Becca, where can they find the Chetty

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Speaker 1: Broad's podcast Everywhere? Everywhere? Everywhere, Everywhere podcasts are located. Podcast

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01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: all that, Jess, Becca, thank you for coming on our

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: podcast today. It's almost famous podcast welcomes you, thanks for

1430
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 1: everything you did for us and breaking down the episode. Listeners,

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Speaker 1: please go check out the Chetty Broad's podcast Everywhere and

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Speaker 1: when I say everywhere, I guess everywhere you can listen

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Speaker 1: to podcast in The Bachelor Live on Stage is about

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Speaker 1: to hit the road and visit your hometown. It's so close.

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Speaker 1: We leave this week for Mesa, Arizona, Beca and I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to help sixty six bachelors find a connection

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Speaker 1: live on stage and have you are live audience help

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Speaker 1: us guide him to handing out the final rows of

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Speaker 1: the evening. I can't give it all away, but you

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Speaker 1: may see a little special number that Becca and I

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Speaker 1: have been practicing, but you'll have to be live in

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Speaker 1: the theater to see our dance moves. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: gotten your tickets yet, to come hang out with me

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Speaker 1: Becca and some special guests along the way. What are

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Speaker 1: you waiting for? The amazing Molly Mesnick announced that she'll

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Speaker 1: our March seven, and we have a few more guests

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Speaker 1: to announce very soon. We're also headed to four Meyers West,

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Clearwater, Melbourne, Jacksonville, Atlanta, New Orleans, San Antonio,

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Speaker 1: on Stage dot com. Before we leave, I just want

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Speaker 1: funny participating shop near You. Should probably get some of

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Speaker 1: that for Jared, because truly know a better way to

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Speaker 1: show my love for him than giving him donuts And

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Speaker 1: as he calls them, donut a donut, he doesn't say donut,

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Speaker 1: it's a donut. Big things to Becca and Jesser coming

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Speaker 1: on our podcast. Actually, you're right, they're really good at

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Speaker 1: breaking down the episode. Yes, they're great. That was fun.

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Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. They have good perspective.

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Speaker 1: They're also funny. Um, and I feel I feel like

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Speaker 1: Beca likes me now she does. That was definitely just

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Speaker 1: like that's her just being honest and like, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's like what I wish we could do more of

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Speaker 1: it is and be like we could talk a little smack,

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Speaker 1: but like we don't mean it in our hearts, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we mean it like as far as like just

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Speaker 1: you know, that was a big out there. I just

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Speaker 1: mean a new friend today and you heard it. It

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Speaker 1: was nice. It makes me I'm gonna bet it rest

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Speaker 1: and easy and night. Do you want to go through

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Speaker 1: some emails? Yeah, let's do it. There's like you want

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Speaker 1: to address. Yeah, I think it's funny. Right, let's do

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Speaker 1: the one email here? Um, it's from Natalie. It's called

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Speaker 1: TikTok shays I became famous on TikTok because of you

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01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: when she says you mean you mean you really? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think so. This has thirty five thousand views in

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Speaker 1: two hours, So thank you for letting me know. Peter

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Speaker 1: was in a commercial. Oh it was me. I love

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Speaker 1: you guys both and listening to your insight on all

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Speaker 1: the Batchelor episodes. Hey Natalie, Hey, fame, fame is a

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Speaker 1: is a burden not worthy to be carried, but we're

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Speaker 1: glad that you're carrying it for a bit. Um. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for sending us an email. Actually, this has been a

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01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: fun podcast. It's here's how I want to close this though. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: what and I said at the beginning, but I want

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: to put a little emphasis on this. This season has

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01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: not been that fun for me. It's more it has

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Speaker 1: been more fun past bachelor seasons that I can like,

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Speaker 1: you know that I've we've been a part of, We've

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Speaker 1: talked very openly about it's been years since we've really

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Speaker 1: been able to get into a bachelor's season. We can

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Speaker 1: necessarily figure out why this season kind of felt like that.

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Speaker 1: But this week and I get where there's you know,

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Speaker 1: this episode five was so big. I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: this next big episode to come out. This week was

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Speaker 1: the first week where I'm on the edge of my

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Speaker 1: seat going I cannot wait to watch more. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: love me wanting more so much more that I don't

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Speaker 1: mind that we have another two hours this week Wednesday night,

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Speaker 1: there will be another episode of the Bachelor, and we

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Speaker 1: will be here right after the show, so you know

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Um, it's wait, it's eleven o'clock if you

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Speaker 1: want to listen to and after the episode airs, we

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Speaker 1: will be here talking about it on Wednesday late night.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a late night. Hey. Actually, one question

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Speaker 1: we haven't done yet this year, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: time to start doing it. We started with Colton about

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Speaker 1: this week, and we're gonna start with Peter about this week.

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Speaker 1: A scale of A to F. What are you rating

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Speaker 1: Pete as the Bachelor? That's This involves performance, This involves

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Speaker 1: um liability, It involves handling of controversy, This involved just

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: swag like everything as a bachelor. When you look at him,

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Speaker 1: F you gave him a B plus a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. I think that was like week to Um.

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Speaker 1: I think that he's a bee because I agree. I

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Speaker 1: think that he like has the potential of being an

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Speaker 1: a and he's like everything that a girl probably wants.

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Speaker 1: But I just think it's the way that he's like

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Speaker 1: not realizing that so many of his moves create more drama. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the one thing I give him a be on and

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can go much farther than be

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Speaker 1: and this is why, in my opinion, like he's always

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Speaker 1: going to be likable, like we're always going to cheer

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Speaker 1: for him, unlike some past Batchelors who have been like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is just annoying to watch him, Like this is

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Speaker 1: just terrible, Like he's driving me up the wall. He's like,

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Speaker 1: there's been no points this season that I've watched Peter

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Speaker 1: and been like I just don't like that guy. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's like nothing unlikable about him. He's so likable. He's likable. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll stick with a beef right now. I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling he'll go up in our page. Ashley, You're great,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk soon. We're talking like a day. It feels

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Speaker 1: like two days after another three hour episode of the Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: With that, I've been been, I've been Ashley by guys.

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Speaker 1: See you Wednesday night. Follow the Benn and Ashley I

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Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you

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