WEBVTT - An Otherworldly Listener Phone Call Extravaganza 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:08.520 What's that. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.400 It's spooky? Hey, Joky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:15.480 coming this way. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.240 Wait a minute, Hey, I ghosted. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:32.479 Nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz, and welcome to 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:37.760 Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:43.879 people that I like about the paranormal. Oh, it's a 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.600 listener episode, you know I love these and uh as 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.680 always you could be on one too. Just email me 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.960 Ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com and in the 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:01.920 subject line right listener episode, and then just write one 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:06.759 sentence bullet points about your various stories, which is different 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.040 if you want me to read a story. If that's 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.120 the case, write it out all nice, maybe like a 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.840 paragraph or two. Oh. I love hearing from you all. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:21.160 I've got such great listeners. You people are cool. Let's 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.360 just get into it. You know, I don't need to 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.039 talk your ear off up front here, because first of all, 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:31.160 this first story, this is a good one. Okay, I'm 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:36.240 actually obsessed with this story. It's about a haunted painting 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:46.600 in Barcelona. Here's Tim on with the show. I don't 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.800 believe it. It's Tim from Barcelona. Oh my god, how 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.200 are you? Tim? 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.560 I'm fine, thank you. I'll be sleepy bod so eager 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.000 and happy to be talking with you. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.400 Oh my god, you know that it's like my dream 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:08.880 place I've never been. I went to a Bisa once, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.120 very briefly, the same thing, I know, but I've never 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.560 been to Spain other than that little time, and it 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:24.000 is my dream. It is like since childhood. I've always 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.840 just had this idea of Spain being just like made 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:31.520 for me and I'm jealous of you. Please find me 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:38.079 a husband and I will. Barcelona, yes, just just put 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:42.600 out some feelers for me. I listen, this is gonna 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:46.480 make me sound like a crazy person, but I do 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.720 sometimes change my dating apps to Barcelona just to see, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.360 just to see you never know, you. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:56.000 Hear. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.680 Don't worry. It's like gaytown to your coward. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.000 Oh my god. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:07.200 Yeah, it's like the curest place I have been in Europe. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.960 So you're welcome. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.960 In America, we have this show called ninety Day Fiance 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.480 and yeah, I know, oh you know it okay because 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.800 yeh many times I've talked to you guys on dating 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.560 apps from overseas and I'm like, hey, you want to 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.079 be on this show with me. It's called ninety d 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.240 fiance and then they block me. So but that is 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:32.640 my dream. Anyway, We're not here I want my dreams. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.840 We're here to talk about your nightmares. Oh yeah, you 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:41.160 got really a fascinating ghost story here? Where do we start? 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.920 Give it to us, take us to the slumber party. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.640 Okay, so this is happened maybe like right now, twelve 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:55.480 years ago more or less. I was, well, I play 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.920 a room skate here A wait a what a room skates? 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:01.520 The typical room scape? Oh? 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:02.800 Escape room? 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.880 Yeah yeah, escape room. Sorry, yeah, actually in my roommate 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.160 that is also we make the business together. We were like, oh, 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.360 wait a minute, we can't do something like really cool 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.960 because you know, it was a typical one that it 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.240 like it was like is this in the seventies to 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.240 travel at the time as in the seventies, because it's 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.960 the furniture that we are available and if you you 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.680 to find like Kia table in the eighties, you know it. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.520 We were like, we can do it a. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.320 Little bit cooler totally. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.080 So we start building these things and I come up 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:44.599 with an idea of making like like it starts like 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.400 the first like horror them the second one in Spain. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.719 But we want to make it like extreme, so we 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.479 actually touch people on top. And it was set in 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.479 the nineteen twenties and it was a medium. The main 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.120 character and the one that was like chasing you around 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:05.240 was a medium. So yeah, I'm Mexican. So basically it 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.719 was like bringing all the cryppy stuff to this place. 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.960 And I actually went to Mexico. I rap like so 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:19.800 many stuff, like witchcraft stuff. And then in here in Spain, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.960 every piece of furniture that was in there was like 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.440 from like free markets and really from the time period. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.320 And the place that we find was like these really 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.760 old Just if you come to Barcelona, everything is building, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.920 so okay, it's building after building after building, and we 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.919 find like this small house that was abandoned in the 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:44.839 middle of the city. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.320 What could go wrong? 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.440 Yeah, So we were like, let's do the game here 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.320 full with all this furniture of the nineteen twenty twenties 0:05:55.040 --> 0:06:00.760 and all the Equippyan witchcraft stuff. So the weirdest thing 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.120 was that when we were like maybe let's say like 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.240 one weekend and have to open, there was this small 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:14.120 room that was like we were not finding what was 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.480 the correct thing to put there. You know, it was hard. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.279 It was like, we have so many shirt but nothing 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:25.520 to put in this place. So I was walking around 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.080 in the city and it was really late, I think 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:34.200 it was like midnight, and I suddenly something like grabbed 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:39.880 my attention and I saw this huge painting of like 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.120 faces screaming, and I was like, oh, that's perfect for 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:49.360 me for the business. Mm so yeah, but it was 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.760 like in the street. They actually throw it away and 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:52.599 it was huge. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.560 Oh my god, it's. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:07:00.240 Like four faces screaming. The skin of the characters are 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.919 gray and the like the background is red. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.520 Do you think someone just had this in their house? 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:08.839 That's yeah. I fired. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.600 Yeah, And I actually call my roommate and I was like, man, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:18.240 I find the stuff, come with me to grab this 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:22.240 huge thing and just let's just put it inside the business. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:23.160 Perfect. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.640 Yeah, So we do that and after like a week, 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:34.120 we were like, hmmm, since that painting arrived, weird things 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:39.880 start to happen, Like what so the I will tell 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.400 you from the smallest one to the biggest one, Okay, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:48.640 Like the smallest ones was like we were so in 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.800 my business. It was only one person attending the groups, 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.680 so we actually, you know, it's not like the business 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.080 where you have like three people working at the same time. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.440 It was only one of us, so we usually never 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.000 see each other unless we have to change, you know, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.720 for the if one have already worked eight hours, then 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:15.960 we changed. So it starts with everyone being like, hey, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.600 I have heard the voices. I actually heard a whisper. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.720 Were close. I was a completely own, I was putting 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.080 everything on place, and I hear a woman, a woman's 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.360 voice in my ear. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.360 It was me. It was me going, can you find 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:35.160 me a husband? 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:35.600 Please? 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.800 Maybe you were you were putting in the teacher. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.200 Yes, who was it? What? 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:42.400 What? 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:43.360 What did they say? 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.920 I only hear the like the and I was like, 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.920 what the fuck was that? And I was like ignored, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.520 just ignored. I Mexicain would usually be like, hey, just 0:08:52.559 --> 0:09:00.640 shut out, Please don't don't bump me. And that One 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.640 of the strangest things that usually happened is that the 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.080 room where the painting was inside was the ending of 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.839 the game and we have a wigi board and some 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.120 people insist to play and we were like, please don't 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:18.000 touch the fucking wigiboard and that room was locked with 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:22.480 a chain. And the first time it started, you know, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.720 is like we have a lot of small things and 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:29.240 usually you lost them, and we start to find out 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:33.320 that every time that we lost anything, the next day, 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.200 we'll appear in that room, in the middle of the 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.920 room with the change on, so it was impossible to 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:45.400 go inside or out. Yeah, it was like, okay, thank 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:50.320 you because I need this to make the game. But 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.800 it was like creepy. It was like, why everything that 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.599 we lost appears in the middle of the room. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:02.320 That is locked, So creepy, but also like what a 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.480 perfect place like you have like a free a free 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.400 ghost working for you at the spooky. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:13.880 Yeah yeah, yeah totally. And also we start seeing like 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:19.880 a bit of shadow people sometimes that I'm really like 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:24.240 creep about it. So I was like, please, if you're here, 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.920 I don't want to see shadows or anything. But then 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:33.719 the huge thing starts because they actually told us that 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.480 they were going to actually turn down that building so 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:41.280 we have to move to another place. So I was like, well, 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.920 we will make a new game, but we will pick 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.760 everything that we have here and just move to the 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:53.240 new place. So it seems that the thing in the 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:58.440 painting didn't like that. Yeah. I think that they were like, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.959 we want the bad the small house in the middle 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:07.800 of Barcelona instead of moving to a building. So when 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.199 I started preparing the new game, it was like, imagine 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:17.040 a huge, really big hallway, really long. Maybe I will 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.560 speak in meters. Sorry, you in the States are the 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.079 only ones that use the other measure, remmberless. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.000 So we have a lot of problems over here. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:34.120 I cannot disagree. Sorry about it. And it was maybe like, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:40.560 let's say like eleven meters the whole way, okay, really long, okay, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:45.360 And so we put the painting in one side. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:45.760 Of that wholeway. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:52.040 And so I was preparing stuff. We didn't have light 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.800 at the beginning, so I was seeing continually shallow people, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.360 and I was like, please, if you're going to do 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.320 your stuff, just do it in your room. I'm living alone. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.880 Keep it in your bedroom. I don't need to see it. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.320 Yeah. And then when we start making the new game, 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.360 the biggest things that actually creeped me out. The first 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.079 thing was it was at the beginning of the game 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.240 of the new game, we give the teams, like you know, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:27.240 to make the feel of like sound footage, bad horror movies. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.480 We gave them like a crappy video camera. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.000 Of the game fun. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.600 Yeah, So at theginning of the game, they were running 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.840 with a video camera and we were like, well, in 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:46.600 my case, I was dressed like a crazy woman facing them. Yeah, 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:54.280 and I'm I'm I'm a bird, so I'm I'm big. Yeah. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:13:00.400 But we managed to creep everyone out. So the first 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:06.280 time one of my workers call me. She is a 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.640 lovely girl and she called me and she was like, hatim, 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.440 I just want to tell you something. Something weird happened 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.320 at the ending and I was like okay, and she 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.920 was like, well, they told me. I was on the 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.960 other side of the of the of the of the 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.800 game and I hear them screaming, and I was like, 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:31.280 what's going on? And afterwards they told me like, by 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.880 the way, the fright of the hand was the best 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.080 fright we have in our lives. And she was like 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.800 what hand And they were like, we saw the hand 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:48.040 and it was so impactful and she was like okay, yeah. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.080 And then she called me like do you put something new? 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.640 And I was like no, And I was like, don't worry. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.840 We know that sometimes freaky stuff happened in the room 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.480 with that painting, so just continue working. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.120 But did you find out what the hand was? 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.480 No? No, but here comes the freaky thing. Is that 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:14.400 like maybe like a week later another employee, and I 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.000 told you, they don't need they know each other, but 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.600 they never talk with each other because she was in 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.440 the weekends, he was in the in the mornings in 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.200 the week so they were not like interactive. And he 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.400 actually called me and he was like hate him. Something 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.600 happened and I was like okay, and he was like, 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.920 the team told me that the fright of the hand 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:44.400 was impactful, and I was like, okay, there's no hand. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:50.680 And two teams in different times, in different moments, have 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:51.880 seen the same thing. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.760 What does that mean? Do you think there's like a 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.760 hand coming out of the painting and grabbing at people? 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.720 No idea. The both teams we were like, the hands 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.400 thing is incredible. We don't know how you do it. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.600 And they were like, yeah, we are that good. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.040 Yeah you're like we don't know how we do it either. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:17.520 Yeah, that's right. But for me, just like the two 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:22.040 huge things that happened with me was that the first 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.800 thing like actually it was a long hallway and the 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.480 ending of the whole way, you know, is like the 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.960 whole way makeup turn, so you were not able to see, 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.880 you know, the other side of the. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.680 Of the ending of the whole way terrifying. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.080 Yeah, so I am, surely because it was the type 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.440 of game it was. It was like lighted with like 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.680 two lamps from the nineteen twenties, so it was like 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.880 you barely see anything. So the first time I was 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:55.560 and this is why I know they were angry because 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:59.560 I was like cleaning stuff and doing stuff and suddenly 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:07.720 I hurt someone running but charging against me. No. Yeah, 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:12.040 And I actually was like, Okay, I don't like that, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.120 so I'm going to go and I will see you 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.680 next week because I'm the boss, so I will not 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:27.360 come to work for a week after this happened. But 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:32.200 they're like the really crazious thing it was that one 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:37.960 day a team arrived and they were sketchy, so they were, 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.640 you know, I was like, well, maybe the ghosts have 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.320 to be more scared of them, okay, the other way around, 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.680 so yeah, they were. I was like, oh, a bit sketchy. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.040 So well, I actually text my room, my roommate that 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.000 was the other owner of the building of the business. 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.960 I was like, oh, sketchy people are alriving and he 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:06.480 usually is like, I'm the match of superheroes. So usually 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.840 he was like, I'm going to protect everyone, and I'm like, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:14.240 we have the same size, the same everything. So no. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.240 So usually he was like if anything happened in the 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.639 in the business, he was the one going to try 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.560 to like be like I'm going to solve this. So 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.040 I text him like, hey, a sketchy team. But they 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.240 were there. So we make the game, and usually I 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:35.639 make the all the cleaning and the fixing of the business. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:41.520 So the team left around twelve o'clock in the night, midnight, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.720 and I actually stay like for one hour and a half, 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.040 like cleaning and doing all the stuff. And just like 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.920 in front of the of the room of the painting, 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:57.520 we have these really really really small bathrooms that it 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.159 was only like the bath and inside we put like 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.000 maybe like eleven mannikins. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:05.600 Oh god, that's scary. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.920 Yeah, And the thing was that we pushed people inside. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:15.840 They panic. They and the mannikins they were like these 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:20.800 crappy ones that you touch and basically they disarmed. So 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.600 I remember that. The first thing when they left, I 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.680 was like, I'm going to arrange the mannequins and then 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.800 I would do everything else. So an hour passed by 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:37.680 and I was like done. I was like, okay, I'm 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.240 about to finish, and then I hear voices, but like 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.680 really loved voices from the other side of the business, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.679 and I was like, wait a minute, and I was like, oh, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.840 my roommate have just arrived like two hours later. Being 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.720 like I'm going to protect you. I was like, are 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.399 you here? And I started searching and I was like, oh, no, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.600 I'm alone. But I was like, okay, don't worry. During 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:11.439 Barcelona sometimes it is loud. So I was like trying 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.439 to find, you know, the to calm myself and trying 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:19.040 to find like like any explanation to not be get nervous. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.200 I was like, okay, the boy says. The loud voices 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.879 were outside, and then I remember I went we have 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.439 like a second floor. When we saw the cameras and stuff, 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:34.080 I went up. I closed the lights and I actually 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:39.199 heard a huge crush, and because I'm that intelligent, instead 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:43.399 of turning the lights on, I grabbed small lamp and 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.840 then I walked down to see what was going on. 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.720 And I remember that I went to one side of 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:54.879 the of the huge hallway. Nothing there. But when I 0:19:54.960 --> 0:20:01.000 turn around, there were three heads of mannekins still moving 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.840 in line in the middle of the of the of 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:12.040 the whole way. Yeah, and I was like no. I 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:16.040 actually was like I'm going to go because it was 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.199 impossible that they failed, you know. I was like, no, 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:23.360 there's there has to be some way of explaining how 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.880 only the heads fall. The thing is that the mannequin's 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.919 were so crappy that you touch like an arm and 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:35.119 they disarmed. So for three heads to be like to 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.920 falling from the bodies running around and be in lined 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.280 in the hallway, it's I don't know how to explain that. 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.480 That's scary. Do you feel like it was like a message? 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.720 It doesn't seem like a friendly message. 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:59.360 Well, the thing is that because of the pandemic, we 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.840 actually were forced to shut down, so we actually my 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.159 business is not it's not existing anymore. We close it. 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.280 So when we closed it, we were like, you know something, 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.560 we need to like have the most amount of money 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.000 that we can. So we start selling everything and many 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.960 people that you know that have like good memories of 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.440 the game come and buy some stuff. And then this 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:26.600 girl appeared and she was with a small dog like 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.960 actually wobble, and she was like, hey, I think I 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:35.760 want the painting, And I told her the painting is 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.600 hunted so I don't recommend that you buy the painting, 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.760 and she was like, no, I want the I want 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.360 the painting. So we walked with her to the painting 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:52.160 and the dog was growling and uh like at the painting, 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:56.000 and uh I was like, not even your dog want 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.119 the painting. 0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.880 You are so much nicer than me, because I would 0:21:59.920 --> 0:22:04.040 be like, fine, take it three no returns. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:10.520 Well, I mean if people sell dolls on eBay, right, yeah, I. 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:12.639 Mean you told her you did the get that you 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.720 said it's haunted, and she said fine, I still want it. 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.440 And I would have said, okay, yeah, no more questions, 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:19.840 take it. 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.639 The crazy thing was that at the same time, some 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.439 friends of my roommate arrived with another dog, and the 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:32.879 dog refuses to enter into that room. So the girl 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.959 actually was like, Okay, I'm going to take the picture 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:40.280 the huge painting to my house. The painting, for a 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:46.200 weird reason, was not entering her car. So she was like, okay, 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.719 can I pick up pick it up like in like 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.879 let's say a week. And I was like, no, okay, 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:58.760 take it now, and we actually have to bring the 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:04.919 picture to my house. And so it arrived to my 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.720 house and with a few more stuff we have from 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:12.800 the business. And uh, in that moment, I started working 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.240 in the nights for like eighty like as a standard job, 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.040 and I was actually working in the place that we 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:25.040 have the things of the of the business. And uh, 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.520 first I heard again a voice and I was like, no, 0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.719 I don't think I'm not going to acknowledge it. I 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:38.120 have headphones on, so if anything else except a boy 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:44.440 without a body. But then one morning, so the girl 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:48.399 actually came and took the fucking painting. It was. It 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:54.480 was gone. And then like maybe two days after, I 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.080 was because I was sleeping in the like at six 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.240 in the morning, so I was like, okay, I'm to 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.719 feed my cat that way, he's not going to annoy 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.840 me during the morning. And suddenly my cat starts to 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.480 stir to the end of my house in the hallway, 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.040 and he actually started to make the movement like he 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:19.520 was seeing someone walking towards him, and all his hairs 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.880 start to like, you know, like to freeze, and he 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:28.280 actually hisses and he runs away, and I was like no. 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:34.000 I was like, please, I'm sorry, but you have to go. 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:39.679 You're not welcome anymore. The painting is gone. And I 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:44.119 think led three months later, the girl send me a 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:48.600 message things start happening in her house. Yeah. 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.520 So originally the ghost was like, all right, fine, I'll 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.960 stay here. I don't need the painting, bye bye. And 0:24:56.000 --> 0:25:00.000 then yeah, I found the painting somehow found its way 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.840 back at her place. Now, yeah, so is that where 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.919 it is to this day, as far as you know, 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:07.720 it's with this this girl. 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.640 Yeah, and the painting is I don't know why. It's 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.240 like messing with her mother. 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:15.200 Oh interesting. 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.760 Yeah. She actually was like, well, every time I'm not 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:23.520 at home, the painting started doing noises and my mom 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.240 had felt someone touching her. And I was like, well, 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:28.760 do you want the painting? 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.600 Yeah sounds horrible, okay bye. 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.720 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, not my problem. 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.359 But yeah, well I'm actually looking at the picture that 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:43.000 you sent and it, yeah, it reminds me of there 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:47.320 was a story that we covered probably three years ago 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:53.520 now or so with the comedian River Butcher, and it 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:59.080 was a Spanish story the bell Bell mez Faces I Believe. 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.440 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, which is. 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.560 Like, yeah, it's like a house where all these spaces 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.080 have appeared in like the concrete and the walls and stuff. 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.360 It like kind of reminds me of that a little bit. 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:15.280 It's interesting that that's also in Spain. Yeah, what do 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.280 you think did you just find it? Like was it 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.920 outside of someone's house or where was it? 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.199 So they're like, there's like this part of the city, 0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:28.479 the Discodo Kantis. Basically it's like a huge flea market 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:30.800 and a bunch of small free markets. 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:32.520 Oh okay, okay, But. 0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.840 The weird thing is that they are selling the stuff 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.680 and this one they were like, just put it near 0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.639 the thrush. I actually saw it like in the middle 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.639 of nowhere, just like in a side of the thrush camps, 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.919 and I was like, oh yeah, I mean even the 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.280 people that were selling the stuff, they were like, just 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.400 let's get rid of it. Put it in the thrush can. 0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:03.360 So what did you learn? Don't take the creepy paintings 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.520 out of the garbage and take them home. 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.960 Yeah yeah, yeah, no more painting. 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.200 Is my house, Tim, This was It doesn't get much 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:17.040 better than this. This was amazing. Thank you so much 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:17.760 for sharing this. 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:19.840 No, thank you so much. 0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.200 Yeah, and once you find me a man over there, 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:28.400 I will happily meet up with you and let's make 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.000 our own escape room without ghosts. 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:36.040 You're welcome to come to Spain whenever you want. But 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.040 I have to tell you that the Spanish people with 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.240 Europeans are not well, excepting English people. They are not 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.520 into ghost things. It's full of those things, but they 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:46.560 don't want to speak about it. 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.040 Theyn't want to talk about it. Yeah, well that's not 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.680 get get it. Well that's my see, that's my problem 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.280 because I am part Mexican, part white. So the Mexican 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.439 said of me is like, I'm not I am not 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.359 dealing with this shit. And then the white part of 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.800 me is like, no, I want to go. I want 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.480 to go. I'm gonna keep walking into the creepy sound 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:08.640 or whatever. 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:10.399 I'm Mexican Japanese. 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.960 So oh fascinating. 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:14.919 You're like, welcome all the weird stuff. 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.119 I'm obsessed with you. I have to go hop on 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.240 another call. But thank you so much. 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:25.240 No Adul, thank you so much. I'm a huge fan. Oh, 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:30.880 thank you, bye Bro, thank you, thank. 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:37.320 You, Tim, my future neighbor. I loved that story. I 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:42.560 loved it. It was just wonderful and I love I 0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:48.200 love Tim. Now to clarify, I don't I don't necessarily 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.320 know that I'm leaving. I'm not happy with America, right now, 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.480 but this is where I'm from. I'm sticking around for now. 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.760 But let me tell you something. If I do find 0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:02.520 a hot, hot Spanish man. It was so nice living here, 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:08.320 it really was. But I'm out of here. No, I don't. 0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.120 I don't know who knows. Anyway, This next one, this 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:16.600 is like a we got an international episode here. We're 0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:20.520 traveling around the world. This next one taking us to China. 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:31.120 So I hope you packed your passport. Here's Alison. My god, 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:36.040 it's Alison from Florida. 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.040 Hi, hey, ros. 0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:45.480 You have a lot of stories. I look through this email. 0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:50.400 I don't even know where do we start. There's there's oh, 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.280 there's even a UFO sighting I see in here. 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:58.560 Yes, and I have about seven pages of bullet points 0:29:58.600 --> 0:29:59.560 for the stories. 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:07.680 Okay, what's like, what's what's the Alison supernatural banger of 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:08.520 a story? 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:14.200 Okay? So I was planning to move to China to teach. 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.880 English stop fifteen cool. 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:24.320 Yeah, and my mom, you know, she loves my free spirits, 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:29.600 but she was definitely very worried. And as I'm packing, 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:34.600 she tells me, I'm moving to China during Hungry Ghost months. 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.240 Hungry Ghost month, uh huh? 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:44.280 And she has a lot of supernatural experience as I do, 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.920 so she knows that that would definitely put me on 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.800 a red alert. But I went ahead and went through it. 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.560 Wait wait, wait, what was Hungry Ghost Month? 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:55.440 Well? 0:30:55.480 --> 0:31:00.040 I looked it up and apparently it's where anybody that 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:04.120 passes in Asia that does not have a funeral and 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:08.680 they can come back for a month to wreck havoc 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.880 or do whatever they see fit. There are a lot 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.640 of customs. If you wear red, do not wear red 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.600 because you will attract a deceased that likes the party. 0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.520 Do not wear black because you are attracting somebody that 0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.920 likes to mourn. Do not leave your clothes hanging outside 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.760 to dry at night, because they think the ghosts will 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.480 inhabit the clothes when you bring them. 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:32.720 Month. 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.400 Do not leave your umbrella outside because if you were 0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.120 to use it again, there might be a ghost hiding 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.120 inside of it. There are so. 0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.480 Many I know. 0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.920 So my mom she knew what she was doing. She 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:47.880 didn't want me to move. 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.880 What month is this? I need to know for the future. 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.600 I guess, I guess it differs. But when I moved 0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.600 there in twenty fifteen, it started in August. 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.200 Okay, uh, huh. 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.920 So I went ahead and proceeded to move Wow, and 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.840 all was well for a bit. I had my own 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.960 studio apartment. It was one among one of the dynasty gates. 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.040 I can't quite remember which dynasty, but I was among 0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:23.240 the dynasty gate. And then as soon as I moved 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:27.360 into my apartment, my school said, we need you to 0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:31.400 teach as a summer camp nearby. So they sent me 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.640 away to a summer camp and I was teaching and 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:39.320 all was well. One night, I took my computer into 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.960 the lobby and I was going to try to skite 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:47.000 my parents, and there were not any electrical out less available, 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:52.680 and without thinking you a westerner, I just un plugged 0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:57.280 whatever lamp was there to put my laptop in. Well, 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:02.120 I look up and I actually unplugged a shrine. Oh 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.520 that's a big no no. And I should have known better, 0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:10.040 but I was a tired teacher. That's what happened. So 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:15.360 I skyte my family. All was okay, and I went 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:19.920 to sleep that night, and as I was sleeping, I 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:24.640 had a very weird dream. I had a dream that 0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:31.400 a girl was walking towards me, and she had one 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:37.480 arm longer than the other one by like a foot okay, 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.959 and her face was really scary, like the grudge, and 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:46.000 she had black hair all in her face, and she 0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.640 walked towards me, and she entered and passed through me. 0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.240 But when she passed through me, I didn't feel anything scary. 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.720 I actually felt some sort of happiness. Maybe I was 0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:04.560 picking up on her I don't know. But so the 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.360 next day I was teaching, and then I walked my 0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.680 students through the evening activity where they would have a 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.799 bonfire and whatnot. And as I returned to walk back 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:20.319 to my hotel room, there were a bunch of elderly 0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:25.719 Asian people walking past me. Most of them would make 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.920 eye contact with me and smile, and I would do 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:34.320 the same as silent communication. But then all of a sudden, 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.960 there is this one lady at the end of one 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:42.359 of the groups that lucks eye contact with me, and 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:47.280 she just won't let up, and it makes me so nervous. 0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.919 And as I proceed to walk past her, I turn 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:56.600 around and I see that she is spitting around and 0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.960 she's looking straight at me, and she breaks away from 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:04.319 her group, and nobody in the group even notices, and 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.640 I focus on her, and I see that her phasique 0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:12.719 is completely different. She has one arm significantly longer than. 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:13.760 The other now. 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:19.160 And her face is completely scary. I run to my 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:24.200 hotel room. Nothing happens except a knock at the door 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:30.279 from my Michigan roommate, who laughs at me. I am hysterical. 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:35.359 I call my mom. She clicks on her computer and 0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.600 she tells me that hungry ghost months started that very evening. 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.160 And how much longer were you supposed to be there. 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.279 As a summer camp? Maybe another four weeks? Then I 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.719 did stay, but I stayed in China for a whole year. 0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.160 And then when I went back to my studios that 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:58.240 I lived in alone, I would hear footsteps across the floor, 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.080 and then something would sit on the edge of my. 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:05.120 That Oh my god, So did you encounter this longer 0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.000 arm ghost again? 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:12.280 No, one time. And then anytime I asked the locals 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:17.640 about hungry ghosts munts, they were totally terrified. They couldn't 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.440 believe I would ask about it. They were quite timid. 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.840 I'm used to, you know. I spent some time in 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.440 the UK and I would like to hunt the old cemeteries, 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.799 and I found it weird that China didn't have any 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.960 cemeteries visible and they explained to me that they keep 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.760 them all hidden away, all supernatural stuff. 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.520 I don't like all the rules about, like you can't 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.719 wear this color, you gotta don't hang up your cloak, like, uh, 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.080 that would stress me out right now. 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.680 And being a Westerner, what are you guys talking about? 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.920 Oh my god, Okay, tell me more stories. You've got 0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:56.520 so many? 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:04.160 Yes, okay. So I you up in a creepy house. Well, 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.680 we moved there when I was twelve years old, and 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.239 everything was fine for a while. My sister and I 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.080 shared a room, and then she went off to college, 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:19.600 and then pretty soon I started hearing footsteps above my bed, 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.480 and I would hear him walk and stop right in 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.600 front above my bed. 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.040 It was an attic up there or the roof. 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:33.680 Yes, yes, ma'am. I had my closet to the right 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:38.719 of my bed was the attic access and it used 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:42.080 to creep me out so bad. My dad looked out 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.880 of town a lot, so I would go and stay 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.240 in my mom's room because I was so scared. 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.440 What was up there, I don't. 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:54.399 Know, But there were other things that happened. I saw 0:37:54.440 --> 0:38:00.600 something black flash across the floor at night, and I 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:03.560 went to wake up my mom and tell her, and 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.560 I told her it was crawling on all fours. I 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.439 don't know if you're familiar with the tool Schism video, 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:14.120 but there's a triangle creature that crawls around really fast. 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.759 All that's in a blurf. You can't see its face. 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.600 That's exactly what I saw. So I went in my 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:25.440 mom's room and I would not come out. My dad 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.360 would kind of scoff and make fun of it because 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.640 he didn't experience anything like that until I moved out. 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.479 Yes, that's the best when a dad gets it. 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:41.440 Yes, yes, I moved out to Colorado. And then dad 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.680 was sitting there talking to my mom in the living 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.239 room and he saw crawl out of my bedroom on 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.320 all fours and going to their bedroom. 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:51.640 What the hell is that? 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.840 I don't know. But what's so weird is that maybe 0:38:56.440 --> 0:39:01.120 fourteen years later, I was with a friend. We went 0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.799 to their house to have a little get together, and 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.760 the little we'll get together's house with my old house, 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:11.080 and I didn't feel anything done weird. 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.600 Right, So the little thing maybe crawled crawled out and 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:19.600 walked around. This is in Florida, Yes, yes, well maybe 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:21.680 it was like I'm sick of the attic. I need 0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.840 to go get some sun. I'll go to the beach. 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:29.239 You know, it's stretch out there, all four of their 0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.920 legs and let their hair down a little. 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:34.600 Yeah, just a little sunbump. 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:41.799 Yeah yeah, little pukashell necklace. So okay, wait, wait, just 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:43.840 because I don't want to miss it. What is the 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.160 UFO sighting? 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:46.040 Oh? 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.200 So that was most recently. It was June first, at 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:53.520 seven am. I was walking my dog and I looked 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:59.719 up in the sky and saw this triangle going by, 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:06.680 and the wings of the triangle were translucent almost, and 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.759 it wasn't anything I've ever seen before. And then it 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.040 shot off like at an angle of the moon and 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.240 didn't make any sound whatsoever. 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.359 Cool. 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.560 Yeah, it was really neat. And I called my mom, 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.560 of course, because she is like the mecca of experience. 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.880 I called my mother and let her know, and she 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:28.120 thought it was quite amazing. 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:28.480 Tooo. 0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.959 That's cool. Yeah, okay, tell you more, mar Mark. 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:37.080 Okay, so when I was a little girl, we went 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:41.080 to the Crescent Hotel in Arkansas, in Eureka Springs. 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:42.719 Okay, I think I've heard about this. 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:47.600 You have, I believe, because well, I'll give you the 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.680 whole story. So we stayed there when I was between 0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:55.520 nine or twelve, I don't remember, but I remember walking 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.400 up the staircase and there was a little boy in 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.680 a portrait of a painting, and it gave me, my 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.719 sister and I the creep. And when we got to 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.759 the top floor, we saw that little boy from the 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:13.799 painting at the top floor, and my sister ran and 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:19.480 I stayed there perplexed. But that same weekend, this New 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:25.080 Year's weekend, I woke up New Year's Day to a 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.760 flash of a hand over my eyes. My eyes were closed, 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.840 but I could clearly see something waving over my eyes. 0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.160 And I woke up and I turned over and there 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.120 was a little girl with brown hair looking at me, 0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:44.160 and I sat up and she disappeared, and I waited 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.399 for my dad to come back with his newspaper signe 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:48.200 at the time. 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:49.640 And. 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:55.200 My dad said that they had heard that our room 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.000 had activity when they were at a little party the 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.520 night before. Well years later I hear on the Travel 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:07.040 Channel that Norman Baker had this whole disgusting set up 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.040 to fraud people say I'm going to treat you for 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.879 cancer and just take your money and let you die. Miserably. Unfortunately. 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:19.960 I found all about that later. I went in April 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:23.879 with my husband and we stayed there, and I did 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:28.200 see a table moved by its felf. But more importantly, 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:34.120 I spoke with the bartender on the penthouse floor and 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.800 he shared a video with me of a little girl 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.879 running on the same floor that I had stayed in 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:43.719 in the nineties. 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:45.720 So you think it was the same little girl. 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.080 I don't know. I hope so, because I don't want 0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.160 there to be more than one little girl. 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:56.359 Oh my, thet girl's been there this whole time, I 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:57.480 know and like. 0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.120 And we went on the tour of his morgue to 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.719 rease the hotel, and that was all hidden when I 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.280 was a nine year old. That's so creepy. 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:10.439 Oh my god. Well, remind me not to go there. 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.440 Well, I actually thought maybe you and your team would 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.239 go and get something. 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:23.120 I mean, I guess that is the point of ghost hunting, 0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:27.120 is to go to these terrifying places. But it does 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.799 not sound fun at the same time. No, I don't 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.160 want to deal with some little girl running around. No, no, no, 0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:36.440 I get enough of that. When I go to Target. 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.279 There's always a little kids running around everywhere. It's not 0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:41.279 not for me. 0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.160 That's where I was today. 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:51.160 Target. Okay, one more the ghost and the taxi. 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.640 Maybe that one, Okay, I was just I was in Sania, 0:43:55.840 --> 0:44:00.840 the southern type of China, on vacation, on my teacher break, 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:05.439 and I was in a taxi and I went to. 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.520 Get into the taxi but there was a man in 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.640 the back seat, so I sat in the front seat, 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.600 which I don't like to do, but I went ahead 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:16.839 and did that. And the whole time, the driver and 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.080 the guy in the back seat are bantering speaking Mandarin, 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:24.560 and I am just kind of laughing along. I don't 0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:26.799 know what's going on. But I get to my destination, 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.600 I get out, I wave to the driver, I go 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.279 to wave to the passenger in the back, and there's 0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:33.000 nobody there. 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.360 Stop. Yeah, I know, right, But do you think that 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.279 the driver knew that there wasn't somebody there? Maybe he 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:45.600 just wast well, right, but you saw the person. 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.479 Too, I did because I didn't get in the back 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.680 because I and I was like, okay, I guess I 0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:52.680 have to get in the front. 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.040 What the hell? 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:56.200 I don't know. 0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:01.279 I don't know, but well, I I am convinced that 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:06.399 ghosts are obsessed with you would do we have time 0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.560 for one more? Yeah, we're a littlehead of schedule, so 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:14.680 go for it. Oh okay, okay, tell me when we okay. 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.800 So we moved to Hawaii when I was six years old, 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:24.000 and we had a hurricane damaged house and we stayed 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:27.799 there in it until our other house was being built. Well, 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:32.560 I always had nightmares about a clown face demon whatever 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.439 in the inaccessible bedroom next to me, so light would 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:41.640 always stay on while I was sleeping, and eventually we 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.760 moved out of the house into the hurricane damaged house. 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.400 On the way to the new house, we would have 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:52.400 to pass the old house. My father saw a white 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:57.560 face demon with his head rockings with high cheekbones in 0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:02.520 the house that I had always had the nightmare, and 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.440 he didn't tell us that until four years later. 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.480 Weird. Okay, did you have another one? 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:11.040 I do? Okay? 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:14.760 So I moved to Colorado. After our scary house in Florida, 0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:19.120 I moved to Colorado. There was a human sized crawl 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.200 space in the bathroom. It was a seven bedroom house 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.359 and it was really weird. I had the instructors from 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:30.040 New Zealing as roommates. We all had different shifts I'm 0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:34.279 doing laundry downstairs and I see someone walk by and 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.040 I thought it was my roommate and he wasn't even there. 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:41.240 Then I heard pots and pans clatter from the island 0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.520 hooks in the kitchen, and then I ran up and 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:48.439 nothing was out of place. My sister and I woke up, 0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:53.680 and she noticed I had beard scratches all over my body. 0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.400 It was on my back and places that I couldn't reach, 0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.880 and they were so ten and random, it just didn't 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:05.200 make sense. I heard a dog sigh in our living 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.520 room while I'm watching TV one day, and I realized, 0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.160 I don't even have a dog. It's coming out of 0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.880 the hole that's behind my couch. 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:15.240 The human size crawl space. 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.640 Yes, I don't know where that hole. I think it's 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.800 a whole connected to the crawl space. 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.280 So do you think it was a living human living 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:22.680 in there? 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:24.000 I don't know. 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.560 I know that A coworker dropped me off and she said, oh, 0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:31.200 you live in a party house. So my sister like 0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:33.840 had a boyfriend and left and I was alone in 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:37.879 the house and I was feeling really brave that I'm 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:41.040 going to be in this house by myself after everything happened, 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:43.960 and all of a sudden, I get a scary feeling 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:46.480 and I turned the TV off. But I can't turn 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.239 the TV off for some reason. So I go to 0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.480 turn it off physically on the television and the channel 0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:56.880 start changing by themselves. So I run down the hallway. 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.640 I hop into my bed. I pulled a Bible out, 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.759 and I ruffled the sheep on my ear so I 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.759 can't hear anything. That's all I can hear. And I 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:10.000 just read the Bible out loud because I can't walk 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.879 down that hallway to sit in the snow all night. 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.360 And I don't have the money to get a hotel either. 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:18.279 Yeah, you're stuck there. 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:22.799 And then and then the landlord offered to let us 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.359 live there for sheep, and I said there's no way, 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.000 and I moved to an apartment where every noise I 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.440 could hear I could just credit it to a neighbor. 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:32.200 Yeah. 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:34.880 That landlord was probably like, oh God, I cannot go 0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:39.240 through this again. I know, just pay less money. Sorry, 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:44.080 there is a demon that lives in the walls. I apologize. 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.120 I'm sorry about that. 0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:48.200 Explore the girl. 0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:55.279 Wow, Alison, you brought the goods. Thank you so much 0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:56.120 for coming on. 0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:59.799 Oh my god, Ross, I really love you. I think 0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:00.480 you're the best. 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:08.879 Thank you so much, Thanks Alison. All Right, I got 0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:12.800 one more for you here. This one is a listener 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:18.560 named Ziah, and Zia has seen some shit. We even 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:32.760 get a cryptid story. Ooh, let's do it. Oh my god, Zia, Hi, Zia. Hello, 0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:42.319 you're in Los Angeles and you have forty thousand, bajillion 0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:51.319 stories and you're you're a triple threat. Okay, We've got UFO, ghosts, encryptid. 0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.399 And I have multiple of all of them too. 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:58.000 Geez, Louise, Ziah, what's your deal? Why are all these 0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.439 mysterious things so into you? 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:07.000 I have no clue, but it's been happening my whole 0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:10.440 life and to my father too. It's kind of crazy. 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.920 We both just experienced things constantly. 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.480 Well, tell me about a cryptid. We don't get enough 0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:22.000 cryptid representation on the show. And I do think representation matters, 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:28.960 and we need these mysterious creatures like Bigfoot to feel 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:33.839 seen in media and maybe that'll make them want to 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:37.600 come out and be a part of society. 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.640 Absolutely, I hope they come out, come out to us. 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:44.359 Yes, So have you encountered was it a Bigfoot. What's 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:44.800 the deal? 0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:52.000 It is something that I cannot quite explain a lot 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.360 of people that I asked about it after it happened 0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:57.000 around New Mexico, so that we're not supposed to say 0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.719 the name of it or else it gets drawn to you. 0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:02.879 And ever since I saw it, I was kind of like, oh, 0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:08.640 I don't really want to see it again. Really, So yeah, 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.000 it's like, yeah, it's creepy. 0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:14.640 Okay, well then we don't have to say the name 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:18.560 of it. But what can you tell us about this experience? 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:22.680 So I can give you the story right now? 0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:23.719 Okay. 0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:27.360 So I grew up in New Mexico. I grew up 0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:31.680 in nature. I grew up camping. I know pretty much 0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:34.240 all the animals that are around there. Like, I'm pretty 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:37.560 aware of what's going on. I'm a skeptic. I like 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.759 I believe in science, you know. And one day I 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:45.720 was camping by this river with an ex of mine 0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:49.040 and it was just the two of us, and I'm 0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:50.680 going to be completely honest with you here. I had 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:55.680 one beer. I didn't have any drugs or like anything 0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.680 that would make me see things. I had like maybe 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:01.760 half that beer. At this point, we were just sitting 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:07.840 around the campfire, and I heard this sound coming from 0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.759 behind my boyfriend's hat at the time, and I kind 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:16.160 of looked over his shoulder and I saw this thing 0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:22.000 gallop out from behind his jeep, and I was kind 0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.560 of trying to focus and figure out what I was 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:28.600 looking at. And on all fours this thing was as 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:34.239 tall as his jeep, like masses. And it wasn't a 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:38.120 move it wasn't a deer. It wasn't anything that I've 0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:43.360 ever seen before, getting so shaky like talking about it. 0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:50.200 It was long and lanky, skinny. I could see what 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.840 I thought were like ribs or muscle. I could like 0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:57.120 see like definition in it. It was that close to me, 0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:01.200 about seven or eight feet away, and I kind of 0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.440 stopped galloping and turned toward me, and it had this 0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:09.280 little tiny face and huge eyes and made eye contact 0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:14.240 with me. And I just sat there, son. I couldn't move, 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:18.880 I couldn't do anything. And then it just galloped away 0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:22.120 around us in kind of a circle. And I kind 0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.480 of looked back at my boyfriend and I said, we 0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:26.839 have to get in the tent right now. So what's 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:29.319 crazy is that at the exact same time I said 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.200 we have to get in the tent right now. He said, 0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:34.440 we have to get inside. We said it in unison, 0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:37.200 and the next day when I asked him why he 0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:40.760 said that, he said that there was a giant, glowing 0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:45.360 ball that looked like lightning that was flying down the 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:46.800 river behind my head. 0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:47.799 What. 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.520 Yeah, I still don't know what to make of it. 0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.200 But we both saw something behind each other's head at 0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:57.840 the same time, and at that same moment we were like, 0:53:57.920 --> 0:53:59.680 we just have to we have to get inside. 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:03.799 Am I having deja vous? Or did have I read this? 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:04.239 Like? 0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:05.520 Did you send this to me? 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:07.319 I did send this to you? 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:09.440 Did I read this on the show? 0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:11.360 I don't remember. 0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:14.960 Let's just say. Let's just say it was somebody else, 0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:19.799 but still, oh my god, this is so creepy. So 0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.680 you didn't see what was behind you. He didn't see 0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:23.640 what was behind him. 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:27.640 No, neither of us saw what was behind like one another, 0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:32.640 and we ran. 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:38.960 Did it seem uh, I don't know, magical or ghostly 0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:42.400 in any way, or did it seem like a mammal 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.280 of some sort? What would you say? 0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:49.920 It's kind of hard to say. Like it felt very scary, 0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:53.040 which is like something that you don't really get when 0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:55.600 you see animals. In nature, You're like, oh, wow, that's 0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:59.880 an animal. That's really cool. It was like petrifying fear. 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:01.879 Yeah, but like. 0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:04.360 At the same time, I didn't feel threatened. 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:06.360 But I bet you if I had a baby, it 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:11.440 would be so cute. All baby animals are cute with 0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:12.239 the big. 0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.360 Eyes already, I thought the baby would have massive eyes. 0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:20.279 Oh, it's probably so cute. Okay, Okay, this is good. 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.560 But wait, you have other cryptid stories too. 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:26.680 That's kind of the that's the only one that I 0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:30.839 had like another witness there for Okay, So I feel 0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:33.560 like that's kind of the most like verifiable because like 0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:36.160 we both saw something at the exact same time, right, 0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:39.440 you know, And all of the stories that I wanted 0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:41.879 to tell you have other witnesses. 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:44.480 Okay, so that it's not just like me. 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:47.920 Experiencing something by myself, Like what if I I don't know, 0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.480 like let's have to sleep and saw something, you know. 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:53.120 No, it's the best when you have a witness. Okay. 0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:56.279 So so what's another one? Give us a give us 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.680 one of these famous Zaia witness stories. 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:05.920 I think my next favorite one would be the cowboy 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:11.879 ghost that my dad and I both saw one night 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:15.560 we were driving home from the airport. It was maybe 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:19.560 like four am. We were coming back from vacation whatever. 0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:22.640 I think I was eighteen or nineteen. Still go on 0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:24.640 vacation with my dad. By the way, he's the best 0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:28.840 person in the world. So his house, for a little context, 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.680 is just out in the middle of nowhere. There are 0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:38.400 not really neighbors, not really anything nearby, and there is 0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:42.840 documented history of this cowboy gang called the Hole in 0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:47.080 the Wall gang there. They had to shoot out at 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:48.920 these ruins that you can still hike to and you 0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:52.400 can see bullet holes in the walls. So we know 0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:56.160 that there's like a history, like a physical history there 0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:00.480 of cowboys. And I think this was the event that 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.000 turned my dad into a believer of the paranormal, because 0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:07.319 he's such a skeptic, like such a scientific mind, brilliant guy, 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:11.680 like no cuckoo bananas, you know, I've seen it before. 0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:14.560 If you can get a skeptical dad on board, that's 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:16.560 the best. 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:17.720 It was. 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:21.760 But it was also terrifying. But we were driving, it 0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:23.400 was so late at night, it was so dark. We 0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:26.240 were both quite kind of tired, you know, just excited 0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:29.280 to be home. Had a great vacation, and we turned 0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:34.280 this one curve in the road and on one side 0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:37.600 of the road there is a deep drop, a cliff, 0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:40.720 and on the other side there's a steep rise, like 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:44.880 a really steep mountain. And we see this person step 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.880 out from the side where the cliff was and stopped 0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.800 in the middle of the road and turn to us, 0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:52.640 and we were like, first of all, weird, like does 0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.880 this guy need help? What's going on? And we both 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:56.880 sat for a second and looked at him a little 0:57:56.880 --> 0:58:00.800 bit closer and realized he was wearing full like old 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:04.040 school cowboy gear at three in the morning in the 0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.520 middle of nowhere. And we look closer and he has 0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:11.360 no color. He's black and white like plastic ghosts almost, 0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:13.960 is like the only way I can describe it. Was shocking, 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:16.120 and I screamed at the top of my lungs. I 0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:18.160 was like, Dad, you have to drive the car right now. 0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:20.360 And my dad drove as fast as he could away 0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:22.800 from there. We were like, Okay, this guy has to 0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:24.360 have a horse, he has to have a truck, like 0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:26.240 we're going to see evidence of like how he got 0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:28.880 up this crazy cliff, you know. And we kept driving 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:30.880 and we didn't see any truck. We didn't see any horse. 0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:34.920 We didn't see any mode of transportation, and we're like, 0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:37.120 oh no, like, should we go back to help him? 0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:38.960 Was it actually a person? And my dad was like, 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:40.600 he didn't have any seat, you. 0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:44.680 Didn't have any feet? No, And he was like walking, 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:45.760 he was. 0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:50.200 Walking, no feet off a cliffs, no horse, no cars, like, 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:52.520 no way he could have been there. 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:58.840 Oh so I'm guessing you didn't turn back and help No. 0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:02.720 No, no no. After he said that, I was like, Okay, 0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:04.080 we're just going to go home and we're going to 0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:06.720 lock the doors and we're just gonna go to bed. 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:12.760 Wow, that's a good one. Okay, give me more, give 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:13.120 me more. 0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:15.560 Okay, one of my more. Do you want to hear 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:16.560 about my friend ghosts? 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:17.120 Yes? 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:21.360 So my ghost friend his name is Peebee. I believe 0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:24.080 he's kind of younger because he's kind of a prankster 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:28.840 around the house. And my first encounter with him was 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:33.400 when I was living near Santa Monica and I bought 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:36.240 a big jug of peanut butter because I had been 0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:39.080 craving peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for like a month. 0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:40.920 So I was like, Okay, let's do it. And I 0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:44.160 got a huge jug of peanut butter. Maybe the next 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.120 day or later on that day. I went up to 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:50.360 go make myself a peanut butter jelly sandwich, and I 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:53.240 reached out for the peanut butter bot in the cabinet 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:57.680 and there was no peanut butter. And I was like, okay, weird. 0:59:57.880 --> 0:59:59.960 Maybe I put it somewhere else. I left it all 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:02.600 all of my bags. I looked in all the cabinets, 1:00:02.640 --> 1:00:05.479 I looked in the fridge. I was literally all over 1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:08.760 my entire house because I knew I just got peanut 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:11.080 butter and I really wanted it, but I couldn't find it. 1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:14.040 And a few days go by, I was like, whatever, 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:16.040 maybe I just forgot to get it or threw it 1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:18.920 away on accident or something. A few days later, I 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:22.040 opened a cabinet that I had opened I don't know, 1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:25.640 maybe ten times since then. I just had pets in it, 1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:27.480 and I was getting a cup to get a glass 1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:30.480 of water. Whatever. I opened the cabinet and this giant 1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:32.480 thing of peanut butter comes flying out and hits me 1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:38.720 on my head, and I was like, okay, that's strange. Whatever. 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:42.560 And that was my first experience with peanut butter ghosts. 1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:45.360 I've had him around for a while. He kind of 1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:47.480 does weird things. I say he I feel like it's 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:49.480 like a meal energy. But I don't really know for sure. 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:52.160 I hope he doesn't mind me calling a pie. But 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:56.040 my most recent encounter with him was I was sitting 1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:59.480 with my current boyfriend on the couch and we were 1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:04.200 just watching TV and a giant amp, like a guitar 1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:06.280 amp that we had sitting in the corner of the 1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:09.640 room just dims into the middle of the room on 1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:13.720 the floor. We're both just like looking at each other 1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:17.360 and looked down and just looked right back at the TV, 1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:18.760 trying not to acknowledge it. 1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:23.960 Oh, that peanut butter got him strong. That's like that 1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:25.160 would take fource. 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:28.200 Yeah, that is not like a light thing. That's not 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:29.080 like a piece of paper. 1:01:29.680 --> 1:01:33.000 So this peanut butter goes has been with you through 1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:34.840 multiple homes? 1:01:35.280 --> 1:01:37.080 Yeah, four or five? 1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:41.360 Now what? So where do you think he came from? 1:01:42.000 --> 1:01:44.760 I have no clue, and I feel like at some 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:47.800 point I would like to get answers about him, but 1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:49.920 that's not something that I want to do by myself. 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:54.360 Okay, what are you what are you thinking on that? Why? 1:01:56.320 --> 1:02:00.680 Now it seems a little bit scary to communicate it 1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:03.440 directly with something that's been with you for a while, 1:02:03.520 --> 1:02:06.520 like it might be a family member or like a 1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:08.919 really just nice ghost that I picked up along the way. 1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:11.000 But I'm kind of in the back of my mind 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:12.960 like what if it's something scarier, you know. 1:02:13.520 --> 1:02:20.720 But overall, it's just been little pranks and stuff like that, right, Yeah, a. 1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:22.960 Little pranks, Like at first it was the peanut butter 1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:25.680 multiple times, like for the first two years it just 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:27.640 had to do with peanut Butter That's why his name 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:29.840 was peanut Butter Ghosts. And then it moved on to 1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:32.840 bigger and better pranks. 1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:39.720 Fascinating. So once like the last time you encountered this ghost. 1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:44.920 The ant happened I believe three weeks ago, maybe a 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:45.480 month ago. 1:02:45.920 --> 1:02:51.600 Oh my god, yeah cool. Could it be now just 1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:55.320 just hear me out. Could it be that it's one 1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:59.920 of these like telekinesis things and you are moving things. 1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:03.480 Oh, that would be so cool? 1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:09.360 Or does it really feel like it's an outside ghost, 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:13.600 Like could it be possible that you have magic powers 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:15.160 and you can move things? 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:18.280 I I'm not sure. I feel like that would be 1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:21.480 amazing and I would love to learn more about that. 1:03:21.760 --> 1:03:24.320 Yeah, and learn how to control it and like make 1:03:24.360 --> 1:03:27.200 it useful and not just. 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:31.600 Like random things flying around. I don't know, it's hard 1:03:31.600 --> 1:03:34.280 to say. I feel like that again. Is another thing, 1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:36.760 like I haven't given it too much of my energy 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:41.640 because you know, watching all the ghost shows and stuff like, 1:03:41.720 --> 1:03:44.760 you are not supposed to give it too much of 1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:47.880 your energy. I feel like I need I need like 1:03:47.880 --> 1:03:48.600 a third party. 1:03:49.800 --> 1:03:52.720 Yeah, don't listen to me, because I'm like, yeah, let's 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:54.160 figure it out. I want to know. 1:03:54.920 --> 1:03:56.320 No, I want to note to you. I do want 1:03:56.360 --> 1:04:02.000 to listen to you. And now I'm like, what if I. 1:04:00.880 --> 1:04:03.760 I think you are and I think that would be 1:04:04.000 --> 1:04:08.760 so cool if you were, And I'm jealous. Okay, give 1:04:08.840 --> 1:04:10.280 us one more. 1:04:11.000 --> 1:04:16.080 Okay, let's see we can do it. How about you 1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:21.680 decide the UFO. Okay. So I was in the hot 1:04:21.720 --> 1:04:26.200 tub one night with my dad. It's always my dath 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:28.840 my dad might always have experiences together. I don't know why. 1:04:29.080 --> 1:04:32.200 This was after a day of snowboarding. We were in 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:34.800 the hot tub. It was night, it was beautiful out. 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:37.680 We were just looking up at the sky chilling. 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:39.480 Where were you at. 1:04:39.320 --> 1:04:43.000 His house in New Mexico in the mountains. Okay, these 1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:44.400 are kind of incredible. 1:04:44.760 --> 1:04:47.919 UFOs famously love that state. 1:04:47.920 --> 1:04:51.800 Apparently, so you know. But our theory about that is 1:04:51.840 --> 1:04:56.440 that the light pollution there is so low that you 1:04:56.440 --> 1:04:59.440 can just see the sky is better totally. So I 1:04:59.520 --> 1:05:01.720 feel like more people just have experiences there. 1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:05.560 Oh, in La, if you can see a plane, that's 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:08.960 a clear day. I swear to god, it's so disgusting 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:09.560 up there. 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:11.480 The Goodyear blimp. 1:05:12.040 --> 1:05:15.200 Yes, But also I feel like the UFOs. I mean, 1:05:15.240 --> 1:05:18.000 it's possible there's UFOs flying all over La. We just 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:21.160 can't see him because of the smog. But if I 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:24.600 was an alien, I'd be like, let's skip this place. 1:05:25.040 --> 1:05:27.240 It is nasty in this air. 1:05:27.720 --> 1:05:29.120 I would be like, I want to be able to 1:05:29.200 --> 1:05:29.880 see down. 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:33.720 Yeah, They're like this, this nasty ass air is going 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:36.280 to make my UFO dirty. I just got it waxed. 1:05:36.680 --> 1:05:42.400 I do not need this pollution. Okay. So, so you're 1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:45.880 in New Mexico, clear skies. You're in the hot tub. 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:50.400 The guys in the hot tub just chilling or laying 1:05:50.440 --> 1:05:53.440 down kind of looking up at the stars. He's like 1:05:53.520 --> 1:05:57.840 a space knowledgeable about space guy. He's telling me about 1:05:57.840 --> 1:06:00.680 planets and like space time and cool thing and I'm 1:06:00.720 --> 1:06:07.360 just sitting there listening, and we both see like three 1:06:08.160 --> 1:06:11.360 dots in the sky kind of moving in unison, and 1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:14.400 we're like, oh, like I wonder for us to do 1:06:14.440 --> 1:06:18.680 with military Like I don't I don't know military things. 1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:22.800 I was like, helicopterras, I don't know. But as they 1:06:23.120 --> 1:06:26.880 kind of slowly came closer to us, we realized there 1:06:26.960 --> 1:06:31.480 was no sound. And then we realized that in between 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:36.400 the dots we couldn't see the stars, and we're kind 1:06:36.400 --> 1:06:40.920 of like, okay, that's a solid object, kind of confused, 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:43.080 and we were just staring that it's for a really 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:45.320 long time, and I started to get kind of nervous 1:06:45.320 --> 1:06:46.720 and I was like, I feel like we should get inside, 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:51.480 Like this seems scary, Like I don't think that we 1:06:51.680 --> 1:06:55.720 have this technology to be moving this slowly something so 1:06:55.840 --> 1:06:59.040 big up there and so quiet, and I was just 1:06:59.040 --> 1:07:01.080 getting really scared. I was like, no, no, no, come on, 1:07:01.160 --> 1:07:03.400 just keep watching, like there might be something really cool, 1:07:03.480 --> 1:07:06.360 like what if we see something no one's ever seen before, 1:07:06.440 --> 1:07:09.360 like it's really awesome. And I was like, oh, I can, 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:12.680 I'm gonna go inside. I was just really nervous, but 1:07:12.760 --> 1:07:14.440 my dad stayed out for a long time, and he 1:07:14.560 --> 1:07:18.440 just stared at it, and he said it kind of 1:07:18.600 --> 1:07:21.919 lingered there for a while, got a little closer, got 1:07:21.920 --> 1:07:25.200 a little further away, kind of moved around a little bit, 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:30.400 and then without a link, without like a word, without anything, 1:07:30.400 --> 1:07:32.120 it was just gone. 1:07:32.520 --> 1:07:34.960 Yeah, classic UFO. 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:37.000 Just that's what I'm. 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:38.480 Telling you, he's out. 1:07:38.600 --> 1:07:41.880 I keep having like classic stories that have happened in 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:43.640 my life, and that's why a lot of people don't 1:07:43.680 --> 1:07:46.919 believe me. And I'm like, I know it. I saw 1:07:46.960 --> 1:07:47.680 what I saw. 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:52.000 These are great stories. Thank you so much for taking 1:07:52.040 --> 1:07:53.880 the time. I really appreciate it. 1:07:54.080 --> 1:07:55.120 Thank you guys so much. 1:07:57.360 --> 1:08:00.560 Thank you so much to all of our listens news, 1:08:01.360 --> 1:08:07.120 thank you once again to Tim, Allison and Zia and 1:08:07.320 --> 1:08:11.480 that could be you one day, so please send in 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:16.000 those emails. I love you all, both living and dead. 1:08:16.320 --> 1:08:18.960 But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't 1:08:19.040 --> 1:08:30.200 haunt me, hey By, this has been an exactly right production. 1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:34.160 Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:35.840 read stories out loud. 1:08:35.600 --> 1:08:39.439 And sometimes I'll even call you. So email me at 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:42.960 ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. 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