Speaker 1: What's that.
Speaker 2: It's spooky? Hey, Joky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's
Speaker 2: coming this way.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Hey, I ghosted.
Speaker 2: Nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz, and welcome to
Speaker 2: Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to
Speaker 2: people that I like about the paranormal. Oh, it's a
Speaker 2: listener episode, you know I love these and uh as
Speaker 2: always you could be on one too. Just email me
Speaker 2: Ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com and in the
Speaker 2: subject line right listener episode, and then just write one
Speaker 2: sentence bullet points about your various stories, which is different
Speaker 2: if you want me to read a story. If that's
Speaker 2: the case, write it out all nice, maybe like a
Speaker 2: paragraph or two. Oh. I love hearing from you all.
Speaker 2: I've got such great listeners. You people are cool. Let's
Speaker 2: just get into it. You know, I don't need to
Speaker 2: talk your ear off up front here, because first of all,
Speaker 2: this first story, this is a good one. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: actually obsessed with this story. It's about a haunted painting
Speaker 2: in Barcelona. Here's Tim on with the show. I don't
Speaker 2: believe it. It's Tim from Barcelona. Oh my god, how
Speaker 2: are you? Tim?
Speaker 4: I'm fine, thank you. I'll be sleepy bod so eager
Speaker 4: and happy to be talking with you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know that it's like my dream
Speaker 2: place I've never been. I went to a Bisa once,
Speaker 2: very briefly, the same thing, I know, but I've never
Speaker 2: been to Spain other than that little time, and it
Speaker 2: is my dream. It is like since childhood. I've always
Speaker 2: just had this idea of Spain being just like made
Speaker 2: for me and I'm jealous of you. Please find me
Speaker 2: a husband and I will. Barcelona, yes, just just put
Speaker 2: out some feelers for me. I listen, this is gonna
Speaker 2: make me sound like a crazy person, but I do
Speaker 2: sometimes change my dating apps to Barcelona just to see,
Speaker 2: just to see you never know, you.
Speaker 1: Hear.
Speaker 4: Don't worry. It's like gaytown to your coward.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the curest place I have been in Europe.
Speaker 4: So you're welcome.
Speaker 2: In America, we have this show called ninety Day Fiance
Speaker 2: and yeah, I know, oh you know it okay because
Speaker 2: yeh many times I've talked to you guys on dating
Speaker 2: apps from overseas and I'm like, hey, you want to
Speaker 2: be on this show with me. It's called ninety d
Speaker 2: fiance and then they block me. So but that is
Speaker 2: my dream. Anyway, We're not here I want my dreams.
Speaker 2: We're here to talk about your nightmares. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 2: got really a fascinating ghost story here? Where do we start?
Speaker 2: Give it to us, take us to the slumber party.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is happened maybe like right now, twelve
Speaker 4: years ago more or less. I was, well, I play
Speaker 4: a room skate here A wait a what a room skates?
Speaker 4: The typical room scape? Oh?
Speaker 2: Escape room?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, escape room. Sorry, yeah, actually in my roommate
Speaker 4: that is also we make the business together. We were like, oh,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, we can't do something like really cool
Speaker 4: because you know, it was a typical one that it
Speaker 4: like it was like is this in the seventies to
Speaker 4: travel at the time as in the seventies, because it's
Speaker 4: the furniture that we are available and if you you
Speaker 4: to find like Kia table in the eighties, you know it.
Speaker 4: We were like, we can do it a.
Speaker 2: Little bit cooler totally.
Speaker 4: So we start building these things and I come up
Speaker 4: with an idea of making like like it starts like
Speaker 4: the first like horror them the second one in Spain.
Speaker 4: But we want to make it like extreme, so we
Speaker 4: actually touch people on top. And it was set in
Speaker 4: the nineteen twenties and it was a medium. The main
Speaker 4: character and the one that was like chasing you around
Speaker 4: was a medium. So yeah, I'm Mexican. So basically it
Speaker 4: was like bringing all the cryppy stuff to this place.
Speaker 4: And I actually went to Mexico. I rap like so
Speaker 4: many stuff, like witchcraft stuff. And then in here in Spain,
Speaker 4: every piece of furniture that was in there was like
Speaker 4: from like free markets and really from the time period.
Speaker 4: And the place that we find was like these really
Speaker 4: old Just if you come to Barcelona, everything is building,
Speaker 4: so okay, it's building after building after building, and we
Speaker 4: find like this small house that was abandoned in the
Speaker 4: middle of the city.
Speaker 2: What could go wrong?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were like, let's do the game here
Speaker 4: full with all this furniture of the nineteen twenty twenties
Speaker 4: and all the Equippyan witchcraft stuff. So the weirdest thing
Speaker 4: was that when we were like maybe let's say like
Speaker 4: one weekend and have to open, there was this small
Speaker 4: room that was like we were not finding what was
Speaker 4: the correct thing to put there. You know, it was hard.
Speaker 4: It was like, we have so many shirt but nothing
Speaker 4: to put in this place. So I was walking around
Speaker 4: in the city and it was really late, I think
Speaker 4: it was like midnight, and I suddenly something like grabbed
Speaker 4: my attention and I saw this huge painting of like
Speaker 4: faces screaming, and I was like, oh, that's perfect for
Speaker 4: me for the business. Mm so yeah, but it was
Speaker 4: like in the street. They actually throw it away and
Speaker 4: it was huge.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's.
Speaker 4: Like four faces screaming. The skin of the characters are
Speaker 4: gray and the like the background is red.
Speaker 2: Do you think someone just had this in their house?
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I fired.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I actually call my roommate and I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I find the stuff, come with me to grab this
Speaker 4: huge thing and just let's just put it inside the business.
Speaker 2: Perfect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we do that and after like a week,
Speaker 4: we were like, hmmm, since that painting arrived, weird things
Speaker 4: start to happen, Like what so the I will tell
Speaker 4: you from the smallest one to the biggest one, Okay,
Speaker 4: Like the smallest ones was like we were so in
Speaker 4: my business. It was only one person attending the groups,
Speaker 4: so we actually, you know, it's not like the business
Speaker 4: where you have like three people working at the same time.
Speaker 4: It was only one of us, so we usually never
Speaker 4: see each other unless we have to change, you know,
Speaker 4: for the if one have already worked eight hours, then
Speaker 4: we changed. So it starts with everyone being like, hey,
Speaker 4: I have heard the voices. I actually heard a whisper.
Speaker 4: Were close. I was a completely own, I was putting
Speaker 4: everything on place, and I hear a woman, a woman's
Speaker 4: voice in my ear.
Speaker 2: It was me. It was me going, can you find
Speaker 2: me a husband?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 4: Maybe you were you were putting in the teacher.
Speaker 2: Yes, who was it? What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: What did they say?
Speaker 4: I only hear the like the and I was like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck was that? And I was like ignored,
Speaker 4: just ignored. I Mexicain would usually be like, hey, just
Speaker 4: shut out, Please don't don't bump me. And that One
Speaker 4: of the strangest things that usually happened is that the
Speaker 4: room where the painting was inside was the ending of
Speaker 4: the game and we have a wigi board and some
Speaker 4: people insist to play and we were like, please don't
Speaker 4: touch the fucking wigiboard and that room was locked with
Speaker 4: a chain. And the first time it started, you know,
Speaker 4: is like we have a lot of small things and
Speaker 4: usually you lost them, and we start to find out
Speaker 4: that every time that we lost anything, the next day,
Speaker 4: we'll appear in that room, in the middle of the
Speaker 4: room with the change on, so it was impossible to
Speaker 4: go inside or out. Yeah, it was like, okay, thank
Speaker 4: you because I need this to make the game. But
Speaker 4: it was like creepy. It was like, why everything that
Speaker 4: we lost appears in the middle of the room.
Speaker 2: That is locked, So creepy, but also like what a
Speaker 2: perfect place like you have like a free a free
Speaker 2: ghost working for you at the spooky.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah totally. And also we start seeing like
Speaker 4: a bit of shadow people sometimes that I'm really like
Speaker 4: creep about it. So I was like, please, if you're here,
Speaker 4: I don't want to see shadows or anything. But then
Speaker 4: the huge thing starts because they actually told us that
Speaker 4: they were going to actually turn down that building so
Speaker 4: we have to move to another place. So I was like, well,
Speaker 4: we will make a new game, but we will pick
Speaker 4: everything that we have here and just move to the
Speaker 4: new place. So it seems that the thing in the
Speaker 4: painting didn't like that. Yeah. I think that they were like,
Speaker 4: we want the bad the small house in the middle
Speaker 4: of Barcelona instead of moving to a building. So when
Speaker 4: I started preparing the new game, it was like, imagine
Speaker 4: a huge, really big hallway, really long. Maybe I will
Speaker 4: speak in meters. Sorry, you in the States are the
Speaker 4: only ones that use the other measure, remmberless.
Speaker 2: So we have a lot of problems over here.
Speaker 4: I cannot disagree. Sorry about it. And it was maybe like,
Speaker 4: let's say like eleven meters the whole way, okay, really long, okay,
Speaker 4: And so we put the painting in one side.
Speaker 5: Of that wholeway.
Speaker 4: And so I was preparing stuff. We didn't have light
Speaker 4: at the beginning, so I was seeing continually shallow people,
Speaker 4: and I was like, please, if you're going to do
Speaker 4: your stuff, just do it in your room. I'm living alone.
Speaker 2: Keep it in your bedroom. I don't need to see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then when we start making the new game,
Speaker 4: the biggest things that actually creeped me out. The first
Speaker 4: thing was it was at the beginning of the game
Speaker 4: of the new game, we give the teams, like you know,
Speaker 4: to make the feel of like sound footage, bad horror movies.
Speaker 4: We gave them like a crappy video camera.
Speaker 2: Of the game fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So at theginning of the game, they were running
Speaker 4: with a video camera and we were like, well, in
Speaker 4: my case, I was dressed like a crazy woman facing them. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm I'm a bird, so I'm I'm big. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But we managed to creep everyone out. So the first
Speaker 4: time one of my workers call me. She is a
Speaker 4: lovely girl and she called me and she was like, hatim,
Speaker 4: I just want to tell you something. Something weird happened
Speaker 4: at the ending and I was like okay, and she
Speaker 4: was like, well, they told me. I was on the
Speaker 4: other side of the of the of the of the
Speaker 4: game and I hear them screaming, and I was like,
Speaker 4: what's going on? And afterwards they told me like, by
Speaker 4: the way, the fright of the hand was the best
Speaker 4: fright we have in our lives. And she was like
Speaker 4: what hand And they were like, we saw the hand
Speaker 4: and it was so impactful and she was like okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: And then she called me like do you put something new?
Speaker 4: And I was like no, And I was like, don't worry.
Speaker 4: We know that sometimes freaky stuff happened in the room
Speaker 4: with that painting, so just continue working.
Speaker 2: But did you find out what the hand was?
Speaker 4: No? No, but here comes the freaky thing. Is that
Speaker 4: like maybe like a week later another employee, and I
Speaker 4: told you, they don't need they know each other, but
Speaker 4: they never talk with each other because she was in
Speaker 4: the weekends, he was in the in the mornings in
Speaker 4: the week so they were not like interactive. And he
Speaker 4: actually called me and he was like hate him. Something
Speaker 4: happened and I was like okay, and he was like,
Speaker 4: the team told me that the fright of the hand
Speaker 4: was impactful, and I was like, okay, there's no hand.
Speaker 4: And two teams in different times, in different moments, have
Speaker 4: seen the same thing.
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Do you think there's like a
Speaker 2: hand coming out of the painting and grabbing at people?
Speaker 4: No idea. The both teams we were like, the hands
Speaker 4: thing is incredible. We don't know how you do it.
Speaker 4: And they were like, yeah, we are that good.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're like we don't know how we do it either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. But for me, just like the two
Speaker 4: huge things that happened with me was that the first
Speaker 4: thing like actually it was a long hallway and the
Speaker 4: ending of the whole way, you know, is like the
Speaker 4: whole way makeup turn, so you were not able to see,
Speaker 4: you know, the other side of the.
Speaker 2: Of the ending of the whole way terrifying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I am, surely because it was the type
Speaker 4: of game it was. It was like lighted with like
Speaker 4: two lamps from the nineteen twenties, so it was like
Speaker 4: you barely see anything. So the first time I was
Speaker 4: and this is why I know they were angry because
Speaker 4: I was like cleaning stuff and doing stuff and suddenly
Speaker 4: I hurt someone running but charging against me. No. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I actually was like, Okay, I don't like that,
Speaker 4: so I'm going to go and I will see you
Speaker 4: next week because I'm the boss, so I will not
Speaker 4: come to work for a week after this happened. But
Speaker 4: they're like the really crazious thing it was that one
Speaker 4: day a team arrived and they were sketchy, so they were,
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, well, maybe the ghosts have
Speaker 4: to be more scared of them, okay, the other way around,
Speaker 4: so yeah, they were. I was like, oh, a bit sketchy.
Speaker 4: So well, I actually text my room, my roommate that
Speaker 4: was the other owner of the building of the business.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, sketchy people are alriving and he
Speaker 4: usually is like, I'm the match of superheroes. So usually
Speaker 4: he was like, I'm going to protect everyone, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: we have the same size, the same everything. So no.
Speaker 4: So usually he was like if anything happened in the
Speaker 4: in the business, he was the one going to try
Speaker 4: to like be like I'm going to solve this. So
Speaker 4: I text him like, hey, a sketchy team. But they
Speaker 4: were there. So we make the game, and usually I
Speaker 4: make the all the cleaning and the fixing of the business.
Speaker 4: So the team left around twelve o'clock in the night, midnight,
Speaker 4: and I actually stay like for one hour and a half,
Speaker 4: like cleaning and doing all the stuff. And just like
Speaker 4: in front of the of the room of the painting,
Speaker 4: we have these really really really small bathrooms that it
Speaker 4: was only like the bath and inside we put like
Speaker 4: maybe like eleven mannikins.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's scary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the thing was that we pushed people inside.
Speaker 4: They panic. They and the mannikins they were like these
Speaker 4: crappy ones that you touch and basically they disarmed. So
Speaker 4: I remember that. The first thing when they left, I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm going to arrange the mannequins and then
Speaker 4: I would do everything else. So an hour passed by
Speaker 4: and I was like done. I was like, okay, I'm
Speaker 4: about to finish, and then I hear voices, but like
Speaker 4: really loved voices from the other side of the business,
Speaker 4: and I was like, wait a minute, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: my roommate have just arrived like two hours later. Being
Speaker 4: like I'm going to protect you. I was like, are
Speaker 4: you here? And I started searching and I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 4: I'm alone. But I was like, okay, don't worry. During
Speaker 4: Barcelona sometimes it is loud. So I was like trying
Speaker 4: to find, you know, the to calm myself and trying
Speaker 4: to find like like any explanation to not be get nervous.
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, the boy says. The loud voices
Speaker 4: were outside, and then I remember I went we have
Speaker 4: like a second floor. When we saw the cameras and stuff,
Speaker 4: I went up. I closed the lights and I actually
Speaker 4: heard a huge crush, and because I'm that intelligent, instead
Speaker 4: of turning the lights on, I grabbed small lamp and
Speaker 4: then I walked down to see what was going on.
Speaker 4: And I remember that I went to one side of
Speaker 4: the of the huge hallway. Nothing there. But when I
Speaker 4: turn around, there were three heads of mannekins still moving
Speaker 4: in line in the middle of the of the of
Speaker 4: the whole way. Yeah, and I was like no. I
Speaker 4: actually was like I'm going to go because it was
Speaker 4: impossible that they failed, you know. I was like, no,
Speaker 4: there's there has to be some way of explaining how
Speaker 4: only the heads fall. The thing is that the mannequin's
Speaker 4: were so crappy that you touch like an arm and
Speaker 4: they disarmed. So for three heads to be like to
Speaker 4: falling from the bodies running around and be in lined
Speaker 4: in the hallway, it's I don't know how to explain that.
Speaker 2: That's scary. Do you feel like it was like a message?
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a friendly message.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is that because of the pandemic, we
Speaker 4: actually were forced to shut down, so we actually my
Speaker 4: business is not it's not existing anymore. We close it.
Speaker 4: So when we closed it, we were like, you know something,
Speaker 4: we need to like have the most amount of money
Speaker 4: that we can. So we start selling everything and many
Speaker 4: people that you know that have like good memories of
Speaker 4: the game come and buy some stuff. And then this
Speaker 4: girl appeared and she was with a small dog like
Speaker 4: actually wobble, and she was like, hey, I think I
Speaker 4: want the painting, And I told her the painting is
Speaker 4: hunted so I don't recommend that you buy the painting,
Speaker 4: and she was like, no, I want the I want
Speaker 4: the painting. So we walked with her to the painting
Speaker 4: and the dog was growling and uh like at the painting,
Speaker 4: and uh I was like, not even your dog want
Speaker 4: the painting.
Speaker 2: You are so much nicer than me, because I would
Speaker 2: be like, fine, take it three no returns.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean if people sell dolls on eBay, right, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean you told her you did the get that you
Speaker 2: said it's haunted, and she said fine, I still want it.
Speaker 2: And I would have said, okay, yeah, no more questions,
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 4: The crazy thing was that at the same time, some
Speaker 4: friends of my roommate arrived with another dog, and the
Speaker 4: dog refuses to enter into that room. So the girl
Speaker 4: actually was like, Okay, I'm going to take the picture
Speaker 4: the huge painting to my house. The painting, for a
Speaker 4: weird reason, was not entering her car. So she was like, okay,
Speaker 4: can I pick up pick it up like in like
Speaker 4: let's say a week. And I was like, no, okay,
Speaker 4: take it now, and we actually have to bring the
Speaker 4: picture to my house. And so it arrived to my
Speaker 4: house and with a few more stuff we have from
Speaker 4: the business. And uh, in that moment, I started working
Speaker 4: in the nights for like eighty like as a standard job,
Speaker 4: and I was actually working in the place that we
Speaker 4: have the things of the of the business. And uh,
Speaker 4: first I heard again a voice and I was like, no,
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm not going to acknowledge it. I
Speaker 4: have headphones on, so if anything else except a boy
Speaker 4: without a body. But then one morning, so the girl
Speaker 4: actually came and took the fucking painting. It was. It
Speaker 4: was gone. And then like maybe two days after, I
Speaker 4: was because I was sleeping in the like at six
Speaker 4: in the morning, so I was like, okay, I'm to
Speaker 4: feed my cat that way, he's not going to annoy
Speaker 4: me during the morning. And suddenly my cat starts to
Speaker 4: stir to the end of my house in the hallway,
Speaker 4: and he actually started to make the movement like he
Speaker 4: was seeing someone walking towards him, and all his hairs
Speaker 4: start to like, you know, like to freeze, and he
Speaker 4: actually hisses and he runs away, and I was like no.
Speaker 4: I was like, please, I'm sorry, but you have to go.
Speaker 4: You're not welcome anymore. The painting is gone. And I
Speaker 4: think led three months later, the girl send me a
Speaker 4: message things start happening in her house. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So originally the ghost was like, all right, fine, I'll
Speaker 2: stay here. I don't need the painting, bye bye. And
Speaker 2: then yeah, I found the painting somehow found its way
Speaker 2: back at her place. Now, yeah, so is that where
Speaker 2: it is to this day, as far as you know,
Speaker 2: it's with this this girl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the painting is I don't know why. It's
Speaker 4: like messing with her mother.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah. She actually was like, well, every time I'm not
Speaker 4: at home, the painting started doing noises and my mom
Speaker 4: had felt someone touching her. And I was like, well,
Speaker 4: do you want the painting?
Speaker 2: Yeah sounds horrible, okay bye.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, not my problem.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well I'm actually looking at the picture that
Speaker 2: you sent and it, yeah, it reminds me of there
Speaker 2: was a story that we covered probably three years ago
Speaker 2: now or so with the comedian River Butcher, and it
Speaker 2: was a Spanish story the bell Bell mez Faces I Believe.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, which is.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's like a house where all these spaces
Speaker 2: have appeared in like the concrete and the walls and stuff.
Speaker 2: It like kind of reminds me of that a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's interesting that that's also in Spain. Yeah, what do
Speaker 2: you think did you just find it? Like was it
Speaker 2: outside of someone's house or where was it?
Speaker 4: So they're like, there's like this part of the city,
Speaker 4: the Discodo Kantis. Basically it's like a huge flea market
Speaker 4: and a bunch of small free markets.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, But.
Speaker 4: The weird thing is that they are selling the stuff
Speaker 4: and this one they were like, just put it near
Speaker 4: the thrush. I actually saw it like in the middle
Speaker 4: of nowhere, just like in a side of the thrush camps,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh yeah, I mean even the
Speaker 4: people that were selling the stuff, they were like, just
Speaker 4: let's get rid of it. Put it in the thrush can.
Speaker 2: So what did you learn? Don't take the creepy paintings
Speaker 2: out of the garbage and take them home.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, no more painting.
Speaker 2: Is my house, Tim, This was It doesn't get much
Speaker 2: better than this. This was amazing. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for sharing this.
Speaker 4: No, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and once you find me a man over there,
Speaker 2: I will happily meet up with you and let's make
Speaker 2: our own escape room without ghosts.
Speaker 4: You're welcome to come to Spain whenever you want. But
Speaker 4: I have to tell you that the Spanish people with
Speaker 4: Europeans are not well, excepting English people. They are not
Speaker 4: into ghost things. It's full of those things, but they
Speaker 4: don't want to speak about it.
Speaker 2: Theyn't want to talk about it. Yeah, well that's not
Speaker 2: get get it. Well that's my see, that's my problem
Speaker 2: because I am part Mexican, part white. So the Mexican
Speaker 2: said of me is like, I'm not I am not
Speaker 2: dealing with this shit. And then the white part of
Speaker 2: me is like, no, I want to go. I want
Speaker 2: to go. I'm gonna keep walking into the creepy sound
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm Mexican Japanese.
Speaker 2: So oh fascinating.
Speaker 4: You're like, welcome all the weird stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with you. I have to go hop on
Speaker 2: another call. But thank you so much.
Speaker 4: No Adul, thank you so much. I'm a huge fan. Oh,
Speaker 4: thank you, bye Bro, thank you, thank.
Speaker 2: You, Tim, my future neighbor. I loved that story. I
Speaker 2: loved it. It was just wonderful and I love I
Speaker 2: love Tim. Now to clarify, I don't I don't necessarily
Speaker 2: know that I'm leaving. I'm not happy with America, right now,
Speaker 2: but this is where I'm from. I'm sticking around for now.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you something. If I do find
Speaker 2: a hot, hot Spanish man. It was so nice living here,
Speaker 2: it really was. But I'm out of here. No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know who knows. Anyway, This next one, this
Speaker 2: is like a we got an international episode here. We're
Speaker 2: traveling around the world. This next one taking us to China.
Speaker 2: So I hope you packed your passport. Here's Alison. My god,
Speaker 2: it's Alison from Florida.
Speaker 5: Hi, hey, ros.
Speaker 2: You have a lot of stories. I look through this email.
Speaker 2: I don't even know where do we start. There's there's oh,
Speaker 2: there's even a UFO sighting I see in here.
Speaker 5: Yes, and I have about seven pages of bullet points
Speaker 5: for the stories.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's like, what's what's the Alison supernatural banger of
Speaker 2: a story?
Speaker 5: Okay? So I was planning to move to China to teach.
Speaker 2: English stop fifteen cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and my mom, you know, she loves my free spirits,
Speaker 5: but she was definitely very worried. And as I'm packing,
Speaker 5: she tells me, I'm moving to China during Hungry Ghost months.
Speaker 2: Hungry Ghost month, uh huh?
Speaker 5: And she has a lot of supernatural experience as I do,
Speaker 5: so she knows that that would definitely put me on
Speaker 5: a red alert. But I went ahead and went through it.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, what was Hungry Ghost Month?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: I looked it up and apparently it's where anybody that
Speaker 5: passes in Asia that does not have a funeral and
Speaker 5: they can come back for a month to wreck havoc
Speaker 5: or do whatever they see fit. There are a lot
Speaker 5: of customs. If you wear red, do not wear red
Speaker 5: because you will attract a deceased that likes the party.
Speaker 5: Do not wear black because you are attracting somebody that
Speaker 5: likes to mourn. Do not leave your clothes hanging outside
Speaker 5: to dry at night, because they think the ghosts will
Speaker 5: inhabit the clothes when you bring them.
Speaker 4: Month.
Speaker 5: Do not leave your umbrella outside because if you were
Speaker 5: to use it again, there might be a ghost hiding
Speaker 5: inside of it. There are so.
Speaker 2: Many I know.
Speaker 5: So my mom she knew what she was doing. She
Speaker 5: didn't want me to move.
Speaker 2: What month is this? I need to know for the future.
Speaker 5: I guess, I guess it differs. But when I moved
Speaker 5: there in twenty fifteen, it started in August.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, huh.
Speaker 5: So I went ahead and proceeded to move Wow, and
Speaker 5: all was well for a bit. I had my own
Speaker 5: studio apartment. It was one among one of the dynasty gates.
Speaker 5: I can't quite remember which dynasty, but I was among
Speaker 5: the dynasty gate. And then as soon as I moved
Speaker 5: into my apartment, my school said, we need you to
Speaker 5: teach as a summer camp nearby. So they sent me
Speaker 5: away to a summer camp and I was teaching and
Speaker 5: all was well. One night, I took my computer into
Speaker 5: the lobby and I was going to try to skite
Speaker 5: my parents, and there were not any electrical out less available,
Speaker 5: and without thinking you a westerner, I just un plugged
Speaker 5: whatever lamp was there to put my laptop in. Well,
Speaker 5: I look up and I actually unplugged a shrine. Oh
Speaker 5: that's a big no no. And I should have known better,
Speaker 5: but I was a tired teacher. That's what happened. So
Speaker 5: I skyte my family. All was okay, and I went
Speaker 5: to sleep that night, and as I was sleeping, I
Speaker 5: had a very weird dream. I had a dream that
Speaker 5: a girl was walking towards me, and she had one
Speaker 5: arm longer than the other one by like a foot okay,
Speaker 5: and her face was really scary, like the grudge, and
Speaker 5: she had black hair all in her face, and she
Speaker 5: walked towards me, and she entered and passed through me.
Speaker 5: But when she passed through me, I didn't feel anything scary.
Speaker 5: I actually felt some sort of happiness. Maybe I was
Speaker 5: picking up on her I don't know. But so the
Speaker 5: next day I was teaching, and then I walked my
Speaker 5: students through the evening activity where they would have a
Speaker 5: bonfire and whatnot. And as I returned to walk back
Speaker 5: to my hotel room, there were a bunch of elderly
Speaker 5: Asian people walking past me. Most of them would make
Speaker 5: eye contact with me and smile, and I would do
Speaker 5: the same as silent communication. But then all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: there is this one lady at the end of one
Speaker 5: of the groups that lucks eye contact with me, and
Speaker 5: she just won't let up, and it makes me so nervous.
Speaker 5: And as I proceed to walk past her, I turn
Speaker 5: around and I see that she is spitting around and
Speaker 5: she's looking straight at me, and she breaks away from
Speaker 5: her group, and nobody in the group even notices, and
Speaker 5: I focus on her, and I see that her phasique
Speaker 5: is completely different. She has one arm significantly longer than.
Speaker 4: The other now.
Speaker 5: And her face is completely scary. I run to my
Speaker 5: hotel room. Nothing happens except a knock at the door
Speaker 5: from my Michigan roommate, who laughs at me. I am hysterical.
Speaker 5: I call my mom. She clicks on her computer and
Speaker 5: she tells me that hungry ghost months started that very evening.
Speaker 2: And how much longer were you supposed to be there.
Speaker 5: As a summer camp? Maybe another four weeks? Then I
Speaker 5: did stay, but I stayed in China for a whole year.
Speaker 5: And then when I went back to my studios that
Speaker 5: I lived in alone, I would hear footsteps across the floor,
Speaker 5: and then something would sit on the edge of my.
Speaker 2: That Oh my god, So did you encounter this longer
Speaker 2: arm ghost again?
Speaker 5: No, one time. And then anytime I asked the locals
Speaker 5: about hungry ghosts munts, they were totally terrified. They couldn't
Speaker 5: believe I would ask about it. They were quite timid.
Speaker 5: I'm used to, you know. I spent some time in
Speaker 5: the UK and I would like to hunt the old cemeteries,
Speaker 5: and I found it weird that China didn't have any
Speaker 5: cemeteries visible and they explained to me that they keep
Speaker 5: them all hidden away, all supernatural stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't like all the rules about, like you can't
Speaker 2: wear this color, you gotta don't hang up your cloak, like, uh,
Speaker 2: that would stress me out right now.
Speaker 5: And being a Westerner, what are you guys talking about?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, tell me more stories. You've got
Speaker 2: so many?
Speaker 5: Yes, okay. So I you up in a creepy house. Well,
Speaker 5: we moved there when I was twelve years old, and
Speaker 5: everything was fine for a while. My sister and I
Speaker 5: shared a room, and then she went off to college,
Speaker 5: and then pretty soon I started hearing footsteps above my bed,
Speaker 5: and I would hear him walk and stop right in
Speaker 5: front above my bed.
Speaker 2: It was an attic up there or the roof.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, ma'am. I had my closet to the right
Speaker 5: of my bed was the attic access and it used
Speaker 5: to creep me out so bad. My dad looked out
Speaker 5: of town a lot, so I would go and stay
Speaker 5: in my mom's room because I was so scared.
Speaker 2: What was up there, I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, But there were other things that happened. I saw
Speaker 5: something black flash across the floor at night, and I
Speaker 5: went to wake up my mom and tell her, and
Speaker 5: I told her it was crawling on all fours. I
Speaker 5: don't know if you're familiar with the tool Schism video,
Speaker 5: but there's a triangle creature that crawls around really fast.
Speaker 5: All that's in a blurf. You can't see its face.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I saw. So I went in my
Speaker 5: mom's room and I would not come out. My dad
Speaker 5: would kind of scoff and make fun of it because
Speaker 5: he didn't experience anything like that until I moved out.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the best when a dad gets it.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I moved out to Colorado. And then dad
Speaker 5: was sitting there talking to my mom in the living
Speaker 5: room and he saw crawl out of my bedroom on
Speaker 5: all fours and going to their bedroom.
Speaker 2: What the hell is that?
Speaker 5: I don't know. But what's so weird is that maybe
Speaker 5: fourteen years later, I was with a friend. We went
Speaker 5: to their house to have a little get together, and
Speaker 5: the little we'll get together's house with my old house,
Speaker 5: and I didn't feel anything done weird.
Speaker 2: Right, So the little thing maybe crawled crawled out and
Speaker 2: walked around. This is in Florida, Yes, yes, well maybe
Speaker 2: it was like I'm sick of the attic. I need
Speaker 2: to go get some sun. I'll go to the beach.
Speaker 2: You know, it's stretch out there, all four of their
Speaker 2: legs and let their hair down a little.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a little sunbump.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, little pukashell necklace. So okay, wait, wait, just
Speaker 2: because I don't want to miss it. What is the
Speaker 2: UFO sighting?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: So that was most recently. It was June first, at
Speaker 5: seven am. I was walking my dog and I looked
Speaker 5: up in the sky and saw this triangle going by,
Speaker 5: and the wings of the triangle were translucent almost, and
Speaker 5: it wasn't anything I've ever seen before. And then it
Speaker 5: shot off like at an angle of the moon and
Speaker 5: didn't make any sound whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really neat. And I called my mom,
Speaker 5: of course, because she is like the mecca of experience.
Speaker 5: I called my mother and let her know, and she
Speaker 5: thought it was quite amazing.
Speaker 1: Tooo.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, okay, tell you more, mar Mark.
Speaker 5: Okay, so when I was a little girl, we went
Speaker 5: to the Crescent Hotel in Arkansas, in Eureka Springs.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I've heard about this.
Speaker 5: You have, I believe, because well, I'll give you the
Speaker 5: whole story. So we stayed there when I was between
Speaker 5: nine or twelve, I don't remember, but I remember walking
Speaker 5: up the staircase and there was a little boy in
Speaker 5: a portrait of a painting, and it gave me, my
Speaker 5: sister and I the creep. And when we got to
Speaker 5: the top floor, we saw that little boy from the
Speaker 5: painting at the top floor, and my sister ran and
Speaker 5: I stayed there perplexed. But that same weekend, this New
Speaker 5: Year's weekend, I woke up New Year's Day to a
Speaker 5: flash of a hand over my eyes. My eyes were closed,
Speaker 5: but I could clearly see something waving over my eyes.
Speaker 5: And I woke up and I turned over and there
Speaker 5: was a little girl with brown hair looking at me,
Speaker 5: and I sat up and she disappeared, and I waited
Speaker 5: for my dad to come back with his newspaper signe
Speaker 5: at the time.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 5: My dad said that they had heard that our room
Speaker 5: had activity when they were at a little party the
Speaker 5: night before. Well years later I hear on the Travel
Speaker 5: Channel that Norman Baker had this whole disgusting set up
Speaker 5: to fraud people say I'm going to treat you for
Speaker 5: cancer and just take your money and let you die. Miserably. Unfortunately.
Speaker 5: I found all about that later. I went in April
Speaker 5: with my husband and we stayed there, and I did
Speaker 5: see a table moved by its felf. But more importantly,
Speaker 5: I spoke with the bartender on the penthouse floor and
Speaker 5: he shared a video with me of a little girl
Speaker 5: running on the same floor that I had stayed in
Speaker 5: in the nineties.
Speaker 2: So you think it was the same little girl.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I hope so, because I don't want
Speaker 5: there to be more than one little girl.
Speaker 2: Oh my, thet girl's been there this whole time, I
Speaker 2: know and like.
Speaker 5: And we went on the tour of his morgue to
Speaker 5: rease the hotel, and that was all hidden when I
Speaker 5: was a nine year old. That's so creepy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well, remind me not to go there.
Speaker 5: Well, I actually thought maybe you and your team would
Speaker 5: go and get something.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that is the point of ghost hunting,
Speaker 2: is to go to these terrifying places. But it does
Speaker 2: not sound fun at the same time. No, I don't
Speaker 2: want to deal with some little girl running around. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I get enough of that. When I go to Target.
Speaker 2: There's always a little kids running around everywhere. It's not
Speaker 2: not for me.
Speaker 5: That's where I was today.
Speaker 2: Target. Okay, one more the ghost and the taxi.
Speaker 3: Maybe that one, Okay, I was just I was in Sania,
Speaker 3: the southern type of China, on vacation, on my teacher break,
Speaker 3: and I was in a taxi and I went to.
Speaker 5: Get into the taxi but there was a man in
Speaker 5: the back seat, so I sat in the front seat,
Speaker 5: which I don't like to do, but I went ahead
Speaker 5: and did that. And the whole time, the driver and
Speaker 5: the guy in the back seat are bantering speaking Mandarin,
Speaker 5: and I am just kind of laughing along. I don't
Speaker 5: know what's going on. But I get to my destination,
Speaker 5: I get out, I wave to the driver, I go
Speaker 5: to wave to the passenger in the back, and there's
Speaker 5: nobody there.
Speaker 2: Stop. Yeah, I know, right, But do you think that
Speaker 2: the driver knew that there wasn't somebody there? Maybe he
Speaker 2: just wast well, right, but you saw the person.
Speaker 5: Too, I did because I didn't get in the back
Speaker 5: because I and I was like, okay, I guess I
Speaker 5: have to get in the front.
Speaker 2: What the hell?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but well, I I am convinced that
Speaker 2: ghosts are obsessed with you would do we have time
Speaker 2: for one more? Yeah, we're a littlehead of schedule, so
Speaker 2: go for it. Oh okay, okay, tell me when we okay.
Speaker 5: So we moved to Hawaii when I was six years old,
Speaker 5: and we had a hurricane damaged house and we stayed
Speaker 5: there in it until our other house was being built. Well,
Speaker 5: I always had nightmares about a clown face demon whatever
Speaker 5: in the inaccessible bedroom next to me, so light would
Speaker 5: always stay on while I was sleeping, and eventually we
Speaker 5: moved out of the house into the hurricane damaged house.
Speaker 5: On the way to the new house, we would have
Speaker 5: to pass the old house. My father saw a white
Speaker 5: face demon with his head rockings with high cheekbones in
Speaker 5: the house that I had always had the nightmare, and
Speaker 5: he didn't tell us that until four years later.
Speaker 2: Weird. Okay, did you have another one?
Speaker 1: I do? Okay?
Speaker 5: So I moved to Colorado. After our scary house in Florida,
Speaker 5: I moved to Colorado. There was a human sized crawl
Speaker 5: space in the bathroom. It was a seven bedroom house
Speaker 5: and it was really weird. I had the instructors from
Speaker 5: New Zealing as roommates. We all had different shifts I'm
Speaker 5: doing laundry downstairs and I see someone walk by and
Speaker 5: I thought it was my roommate and he wasn't even there.
Speaker 5: Then I heard pots and pans clatter from the island
Speaker 5: hooks in the kitchen, and then I ran up and
Speaker 5: nothing was out of place. My sister and I woke up,
Speaker 5: and she noticed I had beard scratches all over my body.
Speaker 5: It was on my back and places that I couldn't reach,
Speaker 5: and they were so ten and random, it just didn't
Speaker 5: make sense. I heard a dog sigh in our living
Speaker 5: room while I'm watching TV one day, and I realized,
Speaker 5: I don't even have a dog. It's coming out of
Speaker 5: the hole that's behind my couch.
Speaker 2: The human size crawl space.
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know where that hole. I think it's
Speaker 5: a whole connected to the crawl space.
Speaker 2: So do you think it was a living human living
Speaker 2: in there?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I know that A coworker dropped me off and she said, oh,
Speaker 5: you live in a party house. So my sister like
Speaker 5: had a boyfriend and left and I was alone in
Speaker 5: the house and I was feeling really brave that I'm
Speaker 5: going to be in this house by myself after everything happened,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, I get a scary feeling
Speaker 5: and I turned the TV off. But I can't turn
Speaker 5: the TV off for some reason. So I go to
Speaker 5: turn it off physically on the television and the channel
Speaker 5: start changing by themselves. So I run down the hallway.
Speaker 5: I hop into my bed. I pulled a Bible out,
Speaker 5: and I ruffled the sheep on my ear so I
Speaker 5: can't hear anything. That's all I can hear. And I
Speaker 5: just read the Bible out loud because I can't walk
Speaker 5: down that hallway to sit in the snow all night.
Speaker 5: And I don't have the money to get a hotel either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're stuck there.
Speaker 5: And then and then the landlord offered to let us
Speaker 5: live there for sheep, and I said there's no way,
Speaker 5: and I moved to an apartment where every noise I
Speaker 5: could hear I could just credit it to a neighbor.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That landlord was probably like, oh God, I cannot go
Speaker 2: through this again. I know, just pay less money. Sorry,
Speaker 2: there is a demon that lives in the walls. I apologize.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Explore the girl.
Speaker 2: Wow, Alison, you brought the goods. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for coming on.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Ross, I really love you. I think
Speaker 5: you're the best.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thanks Alison. All Right, I got
Speaker 2: one more for you here. This one is a listener
Speaker 2: named Ziah, and Zia has seen some shit. We even
Speaker 2: get a cryptid story. Ooh, let's do it. Oh my god, Zia, Hi, Zia. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're in Los Angeles and you have forty thousand, bajillion
Speaker 2: stories and you're you're a triple threat. Okay, We've got UFO, ghosts, encryptid.
Speaker 1: And I have multiple of all of them too.
Speaker 2: Geez, Louise, Ziah, what's your deal? Why are all these
Speaker 2: mysterious things so into you?
Speaker 1: I have no clue, but it's been happening my whole
Speaker 1: life and to my father too. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: We both just experienced things constantly.
Speaker 2: Well, tell me about a cryptid. We don't get enough
Speaker 2: cryptid representation on the show. And I do think representation matters,
Speaker 2: and we need these mysterious creatures like Bigfoot to feel
Speaker 2: seen in media and maybe that'll make them want to
Speaker 2: come out and be a part of society.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I hope they come out, come out to us.
Speaker 2: Yes, So have you encountered was it a Bigfoot. What's
Speaker 2: the deal?
Speaker 1: It is something that I cannot quite explain a lot
Speaker 1: of people that I asked about it after it happened
Speaker 1: around New Mexico, so that we're not supposed to say
Speaker 1: the name of it or else it gets drawn to you.
Speaker 1: And ever since I saw it, I was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to see it again. Really, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's creepy.
Speaker 2: Okay, well then we don't have to say the name
Speaker 2: of it. But what can you tell us about this experience?
Speaker 1: So I can give you the story right now?
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I grew up in New Mexico. I grew up
Speaker 1: in nature. I grew up camping. I know pretty much
Speaker 1: all the animals that are around there. Like, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: aware of what's going on. I'm a skeptic. I like
Speaker 1: I believe in science, you know. And one day I
Speaker 1: was camping by this river with an ex of mine
Speaker 1: and it was just the two of us, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to be completely honest with you here. I had
Speaker 1: one beer. I didn't have any drugs or like anything
Speaker 1: that would make me see things. I had like maybe
Speaker 1: half that beer. At this point, we were just sitting
Speaker 1: around the campfire, and I heard this sound coming from
Speaker 1: behind my boyfriend's hat at the time, and I kind
Speaker 1: of looked over his shoulder and I saw this thing
Speaker 1: gallop out from behind his jeep, and I was kind
Speaker 1: of trying to focus and figure out what I was
Speaker 1: looking at. And on all fours this thing was as
Speaker 1: tall as his jeep, like masses. And it wasn't a
Speaker 1: move it wasn't a deer. It wasn't anything that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen before, getting so shaky like talking about it.
Speaker 1: It was long and lanky, skinny. I could see what
Speaker 1: I thought were like ribs or muscle. I could like
Speaker 1: see like definition in it. It was that close to me,
Speaker 1: about seven or eight feet away, and I kind of
Speaker 1: stopped galloping and turned toward me, and it had this
Speaker 1: little tiny face and huge eyes and made eye contact
Speaker 1: with me. And I just sat there, son. I couldn't move,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything. And then it just galloped away
Speaker 1: around us in kind of a circle. And I kind
Speaker 1: of looked back at my boyfriend and I said, we
Speaker 1: have to get in the tent right now. So what's
Speaker 1: crazy is that at the exact same time I said
Speaker 1: we have to get in the tent right now. He said,
Speaker 1: we have to get inside. We said it in unison,
Speaker 1: and the next day when I asked him why he
Speaker 1: said that, he said that there was a giant, glowing
Speaker 1: ball that looked like lightning that was flying down the
Speaker 1: river behind my head.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still don't know what to make of it.
Speaker 1: But we both saw something behind each other's head at
Speaker 1: the same time, and at that same moment we were like,
Speaker 1: we just have to we have to get inside.
Speaker 2: Am I having deja vous? Or did have I read this?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Did you send this to me?
Speaker 1: I did send this to you?
Speaker 2: Did I read this on the show?
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Let's just say. Let's just say it was somebody else,
Speaker 2: but still, oh my god, this is so creepy. So
Speaker 2: you didn't see what was behind you. He didn't see
Speaker 2: what was behind him.
Speaker 1: No, neither of us saw what was behind like one another,
Speaker 1: and we ran.
Speaker 2: Did it seem uh, I don't know, magical or ghostly
Speaker 2: in any way, or did it seem like a mammal
Speaker 2: of some sort? What would you say?
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to say. Like it felt very scary,
Speaker 1: which is like something that you don't really get when
Speaker 1: you see animals. In nature, You're like, oh, wow, that's
Speaker 1: an animal. That's really cool. It was like petrifying fear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I didn't feel threatened.
Speaker 2: But I bet you if I had a baby, it
Speaker 2: would be so cute. All baby animals are cute with
Speaker 2: the big.
Speaker 1: Eyes already, I thought the baby would have massive eyes.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's probably so cute. Okay, Okay, this is good.
Speaker 2: But wait, you have other cryptid stories too.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the that's the only one that I
Speaker 1: had like another witness there for Okay, So I feel
Speaker 1: like that's kind of the most like verifiable because like
Speaker 1: we both saw something at the exact same time, right,
Speaker 1: you know, And all of the stories that I wanted
Speaker 1: to tell you have other witnesses.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that it's not just like me.
Speaker 1: Experiencing something by myself, Like what if I I don't know,
Speaker 1: like let's have to sleep and saw something, you know.
Speaker 2: No, it's the best when you have a witness. Okay.
Speaker 2: So so what's another one? Give us a give us
Speaker 2: one of these famous Zaia witness stories.
Speaker 1: I think my next favorite one would be the cowboy
Speaker 1: ghost that my dad and I both saw one night
Speaker 1: we were driving home from the airport. It was maybe
Speaker 1: like four am. We were coming back from vacation whatever.
Speaker 1: I think I was eighteen or nineteen. Still go on
Speaker 1: vacation with my dad. By the way, he's the best
Speaker 1: person in the world. So his house, for a little context,
Speaker 1: is just out in the middle of nowhere. There are
Speaker 1: not really neighbors, not really anything nearby, and there is
Speaker 1: documented history of this cowboy gang called the Hole in
Speaker 1: the Wall gang there. They had to shoot out at
Speaker 1: these ruins that you can still hike to and you
Speaker 1: can see bullet holes in the walls. So we know
Speaker 1: that there's like a history, like a physical history there
Speaker 1: of cowboys. And I think this was the event that
Speaker 1: turned my dad into a believer of the paranormal, because
Speaker 1: he's such a skeptic, like such a scientific mind, brilliant guy,
Speaker 1: like no cuckoo bananas, you know, I've seen it before.
Speaker 2: If you can get a skeptical dad on board, that's
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: But it was also terrifying. But we were driving, it
Speaker 1: was so late at night, it was so dark. We
Speaker 1: were both quite kind of tired, you know, just excited
Speaker 1: to be home. Had a great vacation, and we turned
Speaker 1: this one curve in the road and on one side
Speaker 1: of the road there is a deep drop, a cliff,
Speaker 1: and on the other side there's a steep rise, like
Speaker 1: a really steep mountain. And we see this person step
Speaker 1: out from the side where the cliff was and stopped
Speaker 1: in the middle of the road and turn to us,
Speaker 1: and we were like, first of all, weird, like does
Speaker 1: this guy need help? What's going on? And we both
Speaker 1: sat for a second and looked at him a little
Speaker 1: bit closer and realized he was wearing full like old
Speaker 1: school cowboy gear at three in the morning in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. And we look closer and he has
Speaker 1: no color. He's black and white like plastic ghosts almost,
Speaker 1: is like the only way I can describe it. Was shocking,
Speaker 1: and I screamed at the top of my lungs. I
Speaker 1: was like, Dad, you have to drive the car right now.
Speaker 1: And my dad drove as fast as he could away
Speaker 1: from there. We were like, Okay, this guy has to
Speaker 1: have a horse, he has to have a truck, like
Speaker 1: we're going to see evidence of like how he got
Speaker 1: up this crazy cliff, you know. And we kept driving
Speaker 1: and we didn't see any truck. We didn't see any horse.
Speaker 1: We didn't see any mode of transportation, and we're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, like, should we go back to help him?
Speaker 1: Was it actually a person? And my dad was like,
Speaker 1: he didn't have any seat, you.
Speaker 2: Didn't have any feet? No, And he was like walking,
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 1: Walking, no feet off a cliffs, no horse, no cars, like,
Speaker 1: no way he could have been there.
Speaker 2: Oh so I'm guessing you didn't turn back and help No.
Speaker 1: No, no no. After he said that, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're just going to go home and we're going to
Speaker 1: lock the doors and we're just gonna go to bed.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good one. Okay, give me more, give
Speaker 2: me more.
Speaker 1: Okay, one of my more. Do you want to hear
Speaker 1: about my friend ghosts?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: So my ghost friend his name is Peebee. I believe
Speaker 1: he's kind of younger because he's kind of a prankster
Speaker 1: around the house. And my first encounter with him was
Speaker 1: when I was living near Santa Monica and I bought
Speaker 1: a big jug of peanut butter because I had been
Speaker 1: craving peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for like a month.
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, let's do it. And I
Speaker 1: got a huge jug of peanut butter. Maybe the next
Speaker 1: day or later on that day. I went up to
Speaker 1: go make myself a peanut butter jelly sandwich, and I
Speaker 1: reached out for the peanut butter bot in the cabinet
Speaker 1: and there was no peanut butter. And I was like, okay, weird.
Speaker 1: Maybe I put it somewhere else. I left it all
Speaker 1: all of my bags. I looked in all the cabinets,
Speaker 1: I looked in the fridge. I was literally all over
Speaker 1: my entire house because I knew I just got peanut
Speaker 1: butter and I really wanted it, but I couldn't find it.
Speaker 1: And a few days go by, I was like, whatever,
Speaker 1: maybe I just forgot to get it or threw it
Speaker 1: away on accident or something. A few days later, I
Speaker 1: opened a cabinet that I had opened I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe ten times since then. I just had pets in it,
Speaker 1: and I was getting a cup to get a glass
Speaker 1: of water. Whatever. I opened the cabinet and this giant
Speaker 1: thing of peanut butter comes flying out and hits me
Speaker 1: on my head, and I was like, okay, that's strange. Whatever.
Speaker 1: And that was my first experience with peanut butter ghosts.
Speaker 1: I've had him around for a while. He kind of
Speaker 1: does weird things. I say he I feel like it's
Speaker 1: like a meal energy. But I don't really know for sure.
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't mind me calling a pie. But
Speaker 1: my most recent encounter with him was I was sitting
Speaker 1: with my current boyfriend on the couch and we were
Speaker 1: just watching TV and a giant amp, like a guitar
Speaker 1: amp that we had sitting in the corner of the
Speaker 1: room just dims into the middle of the room on
Speaker 1: the floor. We're both just like looking at each other
Speaker 1: and looked down and just looked right back at the TV,
Speaker 1: trying not to acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: Oh, that peanut butter got him strong. That's like that
Speaker 2: would take fource.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is not like a light thing. That's not
Speaker 1: like a piece of paper.
Speaker 2: So this peanut butter goes has been with you through
Speaker 2: multiple homes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, four or five?
Speaker 2: Now what? So where do you think he came from?
Speaker 1: I have no clue, and I feel like at some
Speaker 1: point I would like to get answers about him, but
Speaker 1: that's not something that I want to do by myself.
Speaker 2: Okay, what are you what are you thinking on that? Why?
Speaker 1: Now it seems a little bit scary to communicate it
Speaker 1: directly with something that's been with you for a while,
Speaker 1: like it might be a family member or like a
Speaker 1: really just nice ghost that I picked up along the way.
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of in the back of my mind
Speaker 1: like what if it's something scarier, you know.
Speaker 2: But overall, it's just been little pranks and stuff like that, right, Yeah, a.
Speaker 1: Little pranks, Like at first it was the peanut butter
Speaker 1: multiple times, like for the first two years it just
Speaker 1: had to do with peanut Butter That's why his name
Speaker 1: was peanut Butter Ghosts. And then it moved on to
Speaker 1: bigger and better pranks.
Speaker 2: Fascinating. So once like the last time you encountered this ghost.
Speaker 1: The ant happened I believe three weeks ago, maybe a
Speaker 1: month ago.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah cool. Could it be now just
Speaker 2: just hear me out. Could it be that it's one
Speaker 2: of these like telekinesis things and you are moving things.
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be so cool?
Speaker 2: Or does it really feel like it's an outside ghost,
Speaker 2: Like could it be possible that you have magic powers
Speaker 2: and you can move things?
Speaker 1: I I'm not sure. I feel like that would be
Speaker 1: amazing and I would love to learn more about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and learn how to control it and like make
Speaker 2: it useful and not just.
Speaker 1: Like random things flying around. I don't know, it's hard
Speaker 1: to say. I feel like that again. Is another thing,
Speaker 1: like I haven't given it too much of my energy
Speaker 1: because you know, watching all the ghost shows and stuff like,
Speaker 1: you are not supposed to give it too much of
Speaker 1: your energy. I feel like I need I need like
Speaker 1: a third party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't listen to me, because I'm like, yeah, let's
Speaker 2: figure it out. I want to know.
Speaker 1: No, I want to note to you. I do want
Speaker 1: to listen to you. And now I'm like, what if I.
Speaker 2: I think you are and I think that would be
Speaker 2: so cool if you were, And I'm jealous. Okay, give
Speaker 2: us one more.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see we can do it. How about you
Speaker 1: decide the UFO. Okay. So I was in the hot
Speaker 1: tub one night with my dad. It's always my dath
Speaker 1: my dad might always have experiences together. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: This was after a day of snowboarding. We were in
Speaker 1: the hot tub. It was night, it was beautiful out.
Speaker 1: We were just looking up at the sky chilling.
Speaker 2: Where were you at.
Speaker 1: His house in New Mexico in the mountains. Okay, these
Speaker 1: are kind of incredible.
Speaker 2: UFOs famously love that state.
Speaker 1: Apparently, so you know. But our theory about that is
Speaker 1: that the light pollution there is so low that you
Speaker 1: can just see the sky is better totally. So I
Speaker 1: feel like more people just have experiences there.
Speaker 2: Oh, in La, if you can see a plane, that's
Speaker 2: a clear day. I swear to god, it's so disgusting
Speaker 2: up there.
Speaker 1: The Goodyear blimp.
Speaker 2: Yes, But also I feel like the UFOs. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's possible there's UFOs flying all over La. We just
Speaker 2: can't see him because of the smog. But if I
Speaker 2: was an alien, I'd be like, let's skip this place.
Speaker 2: It is nasty in this air.
Speaker 1: I would be like, I want to be able to
Speaker 1: see down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like this, this nasty ass air is going
Speaker 2: to make my UFO dirty. I just got it waxed.
Speaker 2: I do not need this pollution. Okay. So, so you're
Speaker 2: in New Mexico, clear skies. You're in the hot tub.
Speaker 1: The guys in the hot tub just chilling or laying
Speaker 1: down kind of looking up at the stars. He's like
Speaker 1: a space knowledgeable about space guy. He's telling me about
Speaker 1: planets and like space time and cool thing and I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting there listening, and we both see like three
Speaker 1: dots in the sky kind of moving in unison, and
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, like I wonder for us to do
Speaker 1: with military Like I don't I don't know military things.
Speaker 1: I was like, helicopterras, I don't know. But as they
Speaker 1: kind of slowly came closer to us, we realized there
Speaker 1: was no sound. And then we realized that in between
Speaker 1: the dots we couldn't see the stars, and we're kind
Speaker 1: of like, okay, that's a solid object, kind of confused,
Speaker 1: and we were just staring that it's for a really
Speaker 1: long time, and I started to get kind of nervous
Speaker 1: and I was like, I feel like we should get inside,
Speaker 1: Like this seems scary, Like I don't think that we
Speaker 1: have this technology to be moving this slowly something so
Speaker 1: big up there and so quiet, and I was just
Speaker 1: getting really scared. I was like, no, no, no, come on,
Speaker 1: just keep watching, like there might be something really cool,
Speaker 1: like what if we see something no one's ever seen before,
Speaker 1: like it's really awesome. And I was like, oh, I can,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go inside. I was just really nervous, but
Speaker 1: my dad stayed out for a long time, and he
Speaker 1: just stared at it, and he said it kind of
Speaker 1: lingered there for a while, got a little closer, got
Speaker 1: a little further away, kind of moved around a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then without a link, without like a word, without anything,
Speaker 1: it was just gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, classic UFO.
Speaker 4: Just that's what I'm.
Speaker 2: Telling you, he's out.
Speaker 1: I keep having like classic stories that have happened in
Speaker 1: my life, and that's why a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: believe me. And I'm like, I know it. I saw
Speaker 1: what I saw.
Speaker 2: These are great stories. Thank you so much for taking
Speaker 2: the time. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.
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