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Speaker 1: What's that.

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Speaker 2: It's spooky? Hey, Joky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's

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Speaker 2: coming this way.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Hey, I ghosted.

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Speaker 2: Nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz, and welcome to

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Speaker 2: Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to

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Speaker 2: people that I like about the paranormal. Oh, it's a

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Speaker 2: listener episode, you know I love these and uh as

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Speaker 2: always you could be on one too. Just email me

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Speaker 2: Ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com and in the

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Speaker 2: subject line right listener episode, and then just write one

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Speaker 2: sentence bullet points about your various stories, which is different

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Speaker 2: if you want me to read a story. If that's

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Speaker 2: the case, write it out all nice, maybe like a

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Speaker 2: paragraph or two. Oh. I love hearing from you all.

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Speaker 2: I've got such great listeners. You people are cool. Let's

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Speaker 2: just get into it. You know, I don't need to

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Speaker 2: talk your ear off up front here, because first of all,

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Speaker 2: this first story, this is a good one. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: actually obsessed with this story. It's about a haunted painting

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Speaker 2: in Barcelona. Here's Tim on with the show. I don't

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Speaker 2: believe it. It's Tim from Barcelona. Oh my god, how

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Speaker 2: are you? Tim?

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Speaker 4: I'm fine, thank you. I'll be sleepy bod so eager

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Speaker 4: and happy to be talking with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know that it's like my dream

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Speaker 2: place I've never been. I went to a Bisa once,

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Speaker 2: very briefly, the same thing, I know, but I've never

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Speaker 2: been to Spain other than that little time, and it

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Speaker 2: is my dream. It is like since childhood. I've always

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Speaker 2: just had this idea of Spain being just like made

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Speaker 2: for me and I'm jealous of you. Please find me

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Speaker 2: a husband and I will. Barcelona, yes, just just put

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Speaker 2: out some feelers for me. I listen, this is gonna

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Speaker 2: make me sound like a crazy person, but I do

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Speaker 2: sometimes change my dating apps to Barcelona just to see,

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Speaker 2: just to see you never know, you.

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Speaker 1: Hear.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry. It's like gaytown to your coward.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the curest place I have been in Europe.

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Speaker 4: So you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: In America, we have this show called ninety Day Fiance

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I know, oh you know it okay because

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Speaker 2: yeh many times I've talked to you guys on dating

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Speaker 2: apps from overseas and I'm like, hey, you want to

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Speaker 2: be on this show with me. It's called ninety d

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Speaker 2: fiance and then they block me. So but that is

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Speaker 2: my dream. Anyway, We're not here I want my dreams.

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Speaker 2: We're here to talk about your nightmares. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 2: got really a fascinating ghost story here? Where do we start?

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Speaker 2: Give it to us, take us to the slumber party.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so this is happened maybe like right now, twelve

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Speaker 4: years ago more or less. I was, well, I play

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Speaker 4: a room skate here A wait a what a room skates?

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Speaker 4: The typical room scape? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, escape room. Sorry, yeah, actually in my roommate

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Speaker 4: that is also we make the business together. We were like, oh,

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Speaker 4: So we start building these things and I come up

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Speaker 4: actually touch people on top. And it was set in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were like, let's do the game here

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Speaker 4: It was like, we have so many shirt but nothing

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Speaker 4: me for the business. Mm so yeah, but it was

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Speaker 4: Like four faces screaming. The skin of the characters are

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Speaker 2: Do you think someone just had this in their house?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I actually call my roommate and I was like, man,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we do that and after like a week,

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Speaker 4: Like the smallest ones was like we were so in

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Speaker 4: we changed. So it starts with everyone being like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I have heard the voices. I actually heard a whisper.

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Speaker 2: It was me. It was me going, can you find

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Speaker 1: Please?

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Speaker 4: Maybe you were you were putting in the teacher.

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Speaker 4: I only hear the like the and I was like,

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Speaker 4: just ignored. I Mexicain would usually be like, hey, just

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Speaker 4: of the strangest things that usually happened is that the

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Speaker 4: that every time that we lost anything, the next day,

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Speaker 4: it was like creepy. It was like, why everything that

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Speaker 2: That is locked, So creepy, but also like what a

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah totally. And also we start seeing like

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Speaker 4: we have to move to another place. So I was like, well,

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Speaker 4: new place. So it seems that the thing in the

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Speaker 4: painting didn't like that. Yeah. I think that they were like,

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Speaker 4: I started preparing the new game, it was like, imagine

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Speaker 2: So we have a lot of problems over here.

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Speaker 4: I cannot disagree. Sorry about it. And it was maybe like,

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Speaker 4: And so I was preparing stuff. We didn't have light

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Speaker 4: and I was like, please, if you're going to do

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Speaker 4: to make the feel of like sound footage, bad horror movies.

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Speaker 4: We gave them like a crappy video camera.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So at theginning of the game, they were running

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Speaker 4: my case, I was dressed like a crazy woman facing them. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I'm I'm I'm a bird, so I'm I'm big. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But we managed to creep everyone out. So the first

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Speaker 4: I just want to tell you something. Something weird happened

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Speaker 4: what's going on? And afterwards they told me like, by

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Speaker 4: the way, the fright of the hand was the best

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Speaker 4: fright we have in our lives. And she was like

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Speaker 4: and it was so impactful and she was like okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then she called me like do you put something new?

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Speaker 4: And I was like no, And I was like, don't worry.

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Speaker 4: We know that sometimes freaky stuff happened in the room

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Speaker 4: with that painting, so just continue working.

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Speaker 2: But did you find out what the hand was?

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Speaker 4: No? No, but here comes the freaky thing. Is that

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Speaker 4: I was like, please, I'm sorry, but you have to go.

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Speaker 4: You're not welcome anymore. The painting is gone. And I

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Speaker 2: So originally the ghost was like, all right, fine, I'll

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the painting is I don't know why. It's

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Speaker 4: Yeah. She actually was like, well, every time I'm not

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Speaker 4: do you want the painting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah sounds horrible, okay bye.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, not my problem.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, well I'm actually looking at the picture that

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, which is.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's like a house where all these spaces

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Speaker 2: It like kind of reminds me of that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that that's also in Spain. Yeah, what do

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Speaker 4: So they're like, there's like this part of the city,

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, But.

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Speaker 4: The weird thing is that they are selling the stuff

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Speaker 2: So what did you learn? Don't take the creepy paintings

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, no more painting.

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Speaker 2: Is my house, Tim, This was It doesn't get much

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Speaker 2: better than this. This was amazing. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for sharing this.

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Speaker 4: No, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and once you find me a man over there,

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Speaker 2: I will happily meet up with you and let's make

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Speaker 4: You're welcome to come to Spain whenever you want. But

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Speaker 4: I have to tell you that the Spanish people with

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Speaker 4: into ghost things. It's full of those things, but they

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Speaker 2: Theyn't want to talk about it. Yeah, well that's not

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Speaker 2: get get it. Well that's my see, that's my problem

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Speaker 2: because I am part Mexican, part white. So the Mexican

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Speaker 2: said of me is like, I'm not I am not

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Speaker 2: me is like, no, I want to go. I want

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Speaker 2: to go. I'm gonna keep walking into the creepy sound

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Speaker 2: or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I'm Mexican Japanese.

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Speaker 2: So oh fascinating.

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Speaker 4: You're like, welcome all the weird stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with you. I have to go hop on

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Speaker 2: another call. But thank you so much.

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00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: No Adul, thank you so much. I'm a huge fan. Oh,

438
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 4: thank you, bye Bro, thank you, thank.

439
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: You, Tim, my future neighbor. I loved that story. I

440
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: loved it. It was just wonderful and I love I

441
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: love Tim. Now to clarify, I don't I don't necessarily

442
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: know that I'm leaving. I'm not happy with America, right now,

443
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: but this is where I'm from. I'm sticking around for now.

444
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: But let me tell you something. If I do find

445
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: a hot, hot Spanish man. It was so nice living here,

446
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: it really was. But I'm out of here. No, I don't.

447
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: I don't know who knows. Anyway, This next one, this

448
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: is like a we got an international episode here. We're

449
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: traveling around the world. This next one taking us to China.

450
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: So I hope you packed your passport. Here's Alison. My god,

451
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: it's Alison from Florida.

452
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 5: Hi, hey, ros.

453
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: You have a lot of stories. I look through this email.

454
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know where do we start. There's there's oh,

455
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: there's even a UFO sighting I see in here.

456
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: Yes, and I have about seven pages of bullet points

457
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: for the stories.

458
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Okay, what's like, what's what's the Alison supernatural banger of

459
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: a story?

460
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: Okay? So I was planning to move to China to teach.

461
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: English stop fifteen cool.

462
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and my mom, you know, she loves my free spirits,

463
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 5: but she was definitely very worried. And as I'm packing,

464
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 5: she tells me, I'm moving to China during Hungry Ghost months.

465
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: Hungry Ghost month, uh huh?

466
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 5: And she has a lot of supernatural experience as I do,

467
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 5: so she knows that that would definitely put me on

468
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 5: a red alert. But I went ahead and went through it.

469
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, what was Hungry Ghost Month?

470
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Well?

471
00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 5: I looked it up and apparently it's where anybody that

472
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 5: passes in Asia that does not have a funeral and

473
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: they can come back for a month to wreck havoc

474
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: or do whatever they see fit. There are a lot

475
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: of customs. If you wear red, do not wear red

476
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 5: because you will attract a deceased that likes the party.

477
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 5: Do not wear black because you are attracting somebody that

478
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 5: likes to mourn. Do not leave your clothes hanging outside

479
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: to dry at night, because they think the ghosts will

480
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 5: inhabit the clothes when you bring them.

481
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: Month.

482
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: Do not leave your umbrella outside because if you were

483
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 5: to use it again, there might be a ghost hiding

484
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 5: inside of it. There are so.

485
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: Many I know.

486
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: So my mom she knew what she was doing. She

487
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: didn't want me to move.

488
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: What month is this? I need to know for the future.

489
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: I guess, I guess it differs. But when I moved

490
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 5: there in twenty fifteen, it started in August.

491
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, huh.

492
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: So I went ahead and proceeded to move Wow, and

493
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: all was well for a bit. I had my own

494
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 5: studio apartment. It was one among one of the dynasty gates.

495
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: I can't quite remember which dynasty, but I was among

496
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 5: the dynasty gate. And then as soon as I moved

497
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 5: into my apartment, my school said, we need you to

498
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: teach as a summer camp nearby. So they sent me

499
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: away to a summer camp and I was teaching and

500
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: all was well. One night, I took my computer into

501
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: the lobby and I was going to try to skite

502
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 5: my parents, and there were not any electrical out less available,

503
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 5: and without thinking you a westerner, I just un plugged

504
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 5: whatever lamp was there to put my laptop in. Well,

505
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 5: I look up and I actually unplugged a shrine. Oh

506
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 5: that's a big no no. And I should have known better,

507
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: but I was a tired teacher. That's what happened. So

508
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 5: I skyte my family. All was okay, and I went

509
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: to sleep that night, and as I was sleeping, I

510
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 5: had a very weird dream. I had a dream that

511
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: a girl was walking towards me, and she had one

512
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: arm longer than the other one by like a foot okay,

513
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 5: and her face was really scary, like the grudge, and

514
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: she had black hair all in her face, and she

515
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: walked towards me, and she entered and passed through me.

516
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 5: But when she passed through me, I didn't feel anything scary.

517
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 5: I actually felt some sort of happiness. Maybe I was

518
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: picking up on her I don't know. But so the

519
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 5: next day I was teaching, and then I walked my

520
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 5: students through the evening activity where they would have a

521
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 5: bonfire and whatnot. And as I returned to walk back

522
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 5: to my hotel room, there were a bunch of elderly

523
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 5: Asian people walking past me. Most of them would make

524
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 5: eye contact with me and smile, and I would do

525
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 5: the same as silent communication. But then all of a sudden,

526
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: there is this one lady at the end of one

527
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 5: of the groups that lucks eye contact with me, and

528
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 5: she just won't let up, and it makes me so nervous.

529
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 5: And as I proceed to walk past her, I turn

530
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: around and I see that she is spitting around and

531
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 5: she's looking straight at me, and she breaks away from

532
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 5: her group, and nobody in the group even notices, and

533
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 5: I focus on her, and I see that her phasique

534
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 5: is completely different. She has one arm significantly longer than.

535
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 4: The other now.

536
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: And her face is completely scary. I run to my

537
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 5: hotel room. Nothing happens except a knock at the door

538
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 5: from my Michigan roommate, who laughs at me. I am hysterical.

539
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 5: I call my mom. She clicks on her computer and

540
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 5: she tells me that hungry ghost months started that very evening.

541
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: And how much longer were you supposed to be there.

542
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 5: As a summer camp? Maybe another four weeks? Then I

543
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 5: did stay, but I stayed in China for a whole year.

544
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: And then when I went back to my studios that

545
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 5: I lived in alone, I would hear footsteps across the floor,

546
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 5: and then something would sit on the edge of my.

547
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: That Oh my god, So did you encounter this longer

548
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: arm ghost again?

549
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 5: No, one time. And then anytime I asked the locals

550
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 5: about hungry ghosts munts, they were totally terrified. They couldn't

551
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 5: believe I would ask about it. They were quite timid.

552
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: I'm used to, you know. I spent some time in

553
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 5: the UK and I would like to hunt the old cemeteries,

554
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 5: and I found it weird that China didn't have any

555
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 5: cemeteries visible and they explained to me that they keep

556
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 5: them all hidden away, all supernatural stuff.

557
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: I don't like all the rules about, like you can't

558
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: wear this color, you gotta don't hang up your cloak, like, uh,

559
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: that would stress me out right now.

560
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: And being a Westerner, what are you guys talking about?

561
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, tell me more stories. You've got

562
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: so many?

563
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: Yes, okay. So I you up in a creepy house. Well,

564
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 5: we moved there when I was twelve years old, and

565
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 5: everything was fine for a while. My sister and I

566
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: shared a room, and then she went off to college,

567
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 5: and then pretty soon I started hearing footsteps above my bed,

568
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 5: and I would hear him walk and stop right in

569
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: front above my bed.

570
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: It was an attic up there or the roof.

571
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, ma'am. I had my closet to the right

572
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: of my bed was the attic access and it used

573
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: to creep me out so bad. My dad looked out

574
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 5: of town a lot, so I would go and stay

575
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 5: in my mom's room because I was so scared.

576
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: What was up there, I don't.

577
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 5: Know, But there were other things that happened. I saw

578
00:37:54,440 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 5: something black flash across the floor at night, and I

579
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 5: went to wake up my mom and tell her, and

580
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: I told her it was crawling on all fours. I

581
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 5: don't know if you're familiar with the tool Schism video,

582
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: but there's a triangle creature that crawls around really fast.

583
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 5: All that's in a blurf. You can't see its face.

584
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I saw. So I went in my

585
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 5: mom's room and I would not come out. My dad

586
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 5: would kind of scoff and make fun of it because

587
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 5: he didn't experience anything like that until I moved out.

588
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the best when a dad gets it.

589
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I moved out to Colorado. And then dad

590
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 5: was sitting there talking to my mom in the living

591
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 5: room and he saw crawl out of my bedroom on

592
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 5: all fours and going to their bedroom.

593
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: What the hell is that?

594
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 5: I don't know. But what's so weird is that maybe

595
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 5: fourteen years later, I was with a friend. We went

596
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 5: to their house to have a little get together, and

597
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 5: the little we'll get together's house with my old house,

598
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 5: and I didn't feel anything done weird.

599
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: Right, So the little thing maybe crawled crawled out and

600
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: walked around. This is in Florida, Yes, yes, well maybe

601
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: it was like I'm sick of the attic. I need

602
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: to go get some sun. I'll go to the beach.

603
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: You know, it's stretch out there, all four of their

604
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: legs and let their hair down a little.

605
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a little sunbump.

606
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, little pukashell necklace. So okay, wait, wait, just

607
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: because I don't want to miss it. What is the

608
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: UFO sighting?

609
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

610
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 5: So that was most recently. It was June first, at

611
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: seven am. I was walking my dog and I looked

612
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 5: up in the sky and saw this triangle going by,

613
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 5: and the wings of the triangle were translucent almost, and

614
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 5: it wasn't anything I've ever seen before. And then it

615
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: shot off like at an angle of the moon and

616
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 5: didn't make any sound whatsoever.

617
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: Cool.

618
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really neat. And I called my mom,

619
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: of course, because she is like the mecca of experience.

620
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 5: I called my mother and let her know, and she

621
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: thought it was quite amazing.

622
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Tooo.

623
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, okay, tell you more, mar Mark.

624
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: Okay, so when I was a little girl, we went

625
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 5: to the Crescent Hotel in Arkansas, in Eureka Springs.

626
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I've heard about this.

627
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: You have, I believe, because well, I'll give you the

628
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: whole story. So we stayed there when I was between

629
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 5: nine or twelve, I don't remember, but I remember walking

630
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 5: up the staircase and there was a little boy in

631
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 5: a portrait of a painting, and it gave me, my

632
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 5: sister and I the creep. And when we got to

633
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 5: the top floor, we saw that little boy from the

634
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: painting at the top floor, and my sister ran and

635
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: I stayed there perplexed. But that same weekend, this New

636
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 5: Year's weekend, I woke up New Year's Day to a

637
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 5: flash of a hand over my eyes. My eyes were closed,

638
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 5: but I could clearly see something waving over my eyes.

639
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 5: And I woke up and I turned over and there

640
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: was a little girl with brown hair looking at me,

641
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: and I sat up and she disappeared, and I waited

642
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 5: for my dad to come back with his newspaper signe

643
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 5: at the time.

644
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: And.

645
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 5: My dad said that they had heard that our room

646
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 5: had activity when they were at a little party the

647
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: night before. Well years later I hear on the Travel

648
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 5: Channel that Norman Baker had this whole disgusting set up

649
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 5: to fraud people say I'm going to treat you for

650
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 5: cancer and just take your money and let you die. Miserably. Unfortunately.

651
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 5: I found all about that later. I went in April

652
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 5: with my husband and we stayed there, and I did

653
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: see a table moved by its felf. But more importantly,

654
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: I spoke with the bartender on the penthouse floor and

655
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 5: he shared a video with me of a little girl

656
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 5: running on the same floor that I had stayed in

657
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: in the nineties.

658
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 2: So you think it was the same little girl.

659
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: I don't know. I hope so, because I don't want

660
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 5: there to be more than one little girl.

661
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: Oh my, thet girl's been there this whole time, I

662
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: know and like.

663
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 5: And we went on the tour of his morgue to

664
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 5: rease the hotel, and that was all hidden when I

665
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 5: was a nine year old. That's so creepy.

666
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well, remind me not to go there.

667
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 5: Well, I actually thought maybe you and your team would

668
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 5: go and get something.

669
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that is the point of ghost hunting,

670
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: is to go to these terrifying places. But it does

671
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: not sound fun at the same time. No, I don't

672
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: want to deal with some little girl running around. No, no, no,

673
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: I get enough of that. When I go to Target.

674
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: There's always a little kids running around everywhere. It's not

675
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: not for me.

676
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: That's where I was today.

677
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: Target. Okay, one more the ghost and the taxi.

678
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: Maybe that one, Okay, I was just I was in Sania,

679
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: the southern type of China, on vacation, on my teacher break,

680
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: and I was in a taxi and I went to.

681
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 5: Get into the taxi but there was a man in

682
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 5: the back seat, so I sat in the front seat,

683
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 5: which I don't like to do, but I went ahead

684
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 5: and did that. And the whole time, the driver and

685
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 5: the guy in the back seat are bantering speaking Mandarin,

686
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 5: and I am just kind of laughing along. I don't

687
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 5: know what's going on. But I get to my destination,

688
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 5: I get out, I wave to the driver, I go

689
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 5: to wave to the passenger in the back, and there's

690
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 5: nobody there.

691
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: Stop. Yeah, I know, right, But do you think that

692
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: the driver knew that there wasn't somebody there? Maybe he

693
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: just wast well, right, but you saw the person.

694
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 5: Too, I did because I didn't get in the back

695
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 5: because I and I was like, okay, I guess I

696
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: have to get in the front.

697
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: What the hell?

698
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: I don't know.

699
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, but well, I I am convinced that

700
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: ghosts are obsessed with you would do we have time

701
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: for one more? Yeah, we're a littlehead of schedule, so

702
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: go for it. Oh okay, okay, tell me when we okay.

703
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 5: So we moved to Hawaii when I was six years old,

704
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 5: and we had a hurricane damaged house and we stayed

705
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: there in it until our other house was being built. Well,

706
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 5: I always had nightmares about a clown face demon whatever

707
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 5: in the inaccessible bedroom next to me, so light would

708
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 5: always stay on while I was sleeping, and eventually we

709
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 5: moved out of the house into the hurricane damaged house.

710
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 5: On the way to the new house, we would have

711
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 5: to pass the old house. My father saw a white

712
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 5: face demon with his head rockings with high cheekbones in

713
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 5: the house that I had always had the nightmare, and

714
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: he didn't tell us that until four years later.

715
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: Weird. Okay, did you have another one?

716
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: I do? Okay?

717
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 5: So I moved to Colorado. After our scary house in Florida,

718
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 5: I moved to Colorado. There was a human sized crawl

719
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 5: space in the bathroom. It was a seven bedroom house

720
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 5: and it was really weird. I had the instructors from

721
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: New Zealing as roommates. We all had different shifts I'm

722
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 5: doing laundry downstairs and I see someone walk by and

723
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 5: I thought it was my roommate and he wasn't even there.

724
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 5: Then I heard pots and pans clatter from the island

725
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 5: hooks in the kitchen, and then I ran up and

726
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 5: nothing was out of place. My sister and I woke up,

727
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: and she noticed I had beard scratches all over my body.

728
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 5: It was on my back and places that I couldn't reach,

729
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 5: and they were so ten and random, it just didn't

730
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 5: make sense. I heard a dog sigh in our living

731
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 5: room while I'm watching TV one day, and I realized,

732
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: I don't even have a dog. It's coming out of

733
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 5: the hole that's behind my couch.

734
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: The human size crawl space.

735
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know where that hole. I think it's

736
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 5: a whole connected to the crawl space.

737
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: So do you think it was a living human living

738
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: in there?

739
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

740
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 5: I know that A coworker dropped me off and she said, oh,

741
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 5: you live in a party house. So my sister like

742
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 5: had a boyfriend and left and I was alone in

743
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 5: the house and I was feeling really brave that I'm

744
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 5: going to be in this house by myself after everything happened,

745
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, I get a scary feeling

746
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 5: and I turned the TV off. But I can't turn

747
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: the TV off for some reason. So I go to

748
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 5: turn it off physically on the television and the channel

749
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 5: start changing by themselves. So I run down the hallway.

750
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 5: I hop into my bed. I pulled a Bible out,

751
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 5: and I ruffled the sheep on my ear so I

752
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 5: can't hear anything. That's all I can hear. And I

753
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: just read the Bible out loud because I can't walk

754
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 5: down that hallway to sit in the snow all night.

755
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 5: And I don't have the money to get a hotel either.

756
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're stuck there.

757
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 5: And then and then the landlord offered to let us

758
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 5: live there for sheep, and I said there's no way,

759
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 5: and I moved to an apartment where every noise I

760
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 5: could hear I could just credit it to a neighbor.

761
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

762
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: That landlord was probably like, oh God, I cannot go

763
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 2: through this again. I know, just pay less money. Sorry,

764
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: there is a demon that lives in the walls. I apologize.

765
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 5: I'm sorry about that.

766
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Explore the girl.

767
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: Wow, Alison, you brought the goods. Thank you so much

768
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: for coming on.

769
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Ross, I really love you. I think

770
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: you're the best.

771
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thanks Alison. All Right, I got

772
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 2: one more for you here. This one is a listener

773
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: named Ziah, and Zia has seen some shit. We even

774
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: get a cryptid story. Ooh, let's do it. Oh my god, Zia, Hi, Zia. Hello,

775
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: you're in Los Angeles and you have forty thousand, bajillion

776
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: stories and you're you're a triple threat. Okay, We've got UFO, ghosts, encryptid.

777
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: And I have multiple of all of them too.

778
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: Geez, Louise, Ziah, what's your deal? Why are all these

779
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 2: mysterious things so into you?

780
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: I have no clue, but it's been happening my whole

781
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: life and to my father too. It's kind of crazy.

782
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: We both just experienced things constantly.

783
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: Well, tell me about a cryptid. We don't get enough

784
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: cryptid representation on the show. And I do think representation matters,

785
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: and we need these mysterious creatures like Bigfoot to feel

786
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: seen in media and maybe that'll make them want to

787
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: come out and be a part of society.

788
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I hope they come out, come out to us.

789
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: Yes, So have you encountered was it a Bigfoot. What's

790
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: the deal?

791
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: It is something that I cannot quite explain a lot

792
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: of people that I asked about it after it happened

793
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: around New Mexico, so that we're not supposed to say

794
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: the name of it or else it gets drawn to you.

795
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: And ever since I saw it, I was kind of like, oh,

796
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't really want to see it again. Really, So yeah,

797
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's creepy.

798
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well then we don't have to say the name

799
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: of it. But what can you tell us about this experience?

800
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: So I can give you the story right now?

801
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: Okay.

802
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: So I grew up in New Mexico. I grew up

803
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: in nature. I grew up camping. I know pretty much

804
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: all the animals that are around there. Like, I'm pretty

805
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: aware of what's going on. I'm a skeptic. I like

806
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: I believe in science, you know. And one day I

807
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: was camping by this river with an ex of mine

808
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: and it was just the two of us, and I'm

809
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: going to be completely honest with you here. I had

810
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: one beer. I didn't have any drugs or like anything

811
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: that would make me see things. I had like maybe

812
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: half that beer. At this point, we were just sitting

813
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: around the campfire, and I heard this sound coming from

814
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: behind my boyfriend's hat at the time, and I kind

815
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: of looked over his shoulder and I saw this thing

816
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: gallop out from behind his jeep, and I was kind

817
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: of trying to focus and figure out what I was

818
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: looking at. And on all fours this thing was as

819
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: tall as his jeep, like masses. And it wasn't a

820
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: move it wasn't a deer. It wasn't anything that I've

821
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: ever seen before, getting so shaky like talking about it.

822
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: It was long and lanky, skinny. I could see what

823
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: I thought were like ribs or muscle. I could like

824
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: see like definition in it. It was that close to me,

825
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: about seven or eight feet away, and I kind of

826
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: stopped galloping and turned toward me, and it had this

827
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: little tiny face and huge eyes and made eye contact

828
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: with me. And I just sat there, son. I couldn't move,

829
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything. And then it just galloped away

830
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: around us in kind of a circle. And I kind

831
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: of looked back at my boyfriend and I said, we

832
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: have to get in the tent right now. So what's

833
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: crazy is that at the exact same time I said

834
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: we have to get in the tent right now. He said,

835
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: we have to get inside. We said it in unison,

836
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: and the next day when I asked him why he

837
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: said that, he said that there was a giant, glowing

838
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: ball that looked like lightning that was flying down the

839
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: river behind my head.

840
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 4: What.

841
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still don't know what to make of it.

842
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: But we both saw something behind each other's head at

843
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: the same time, and at that same moment we were like,

844
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: we just have to we have to get inside.

845
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: Am I having deja vous? Or did have I read this?

846
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: Like?

847
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: Did you send this to me?

848
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: I did send this to you?

849
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: Did I read this on the show?

850
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: I don't remember.

851
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: Let's just say. Let's just say it was somebody else,

852
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: but still, oh my god, this is so creepy. So

853
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: you didn't see what was behind you. He didn't see

854
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: what was behind him.

855
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: No, neither of us saw what was behind like one another,

856
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: and we ran.

857
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: Did it seem uh, I don't know, magical or ghostly

858
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: in any way, or did it seem like a mammal

859
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 2: of some sort? What would you say?

860
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to say. Like it felt very scary,

861
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: which is like something that you don't really get when

862
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: you see animals. In nature, You're like, oh, wow, that's

863
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: an animal. That's really cool. It was like petrifying fear.

864
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like.

865
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: At the same time, I didn't feel threatened.

866
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: But I bet you if I had a baby, it

867
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: would be so cute. All baby animals are cute with

868
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: the big.

869
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: Eyes already, I thought the baby would have massive eyes.

870
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: Oh, it's probably so cute. Okay, Okay, this is good.

871
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: But wait, you have other cryptid stories too.

872
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: That's kind of the that's the only one that I

873
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: had like another witness there for Okay, So I feel

874
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: like that's kind of the most like verifiable because like

875
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: we both saw something at the exact same time, right,

876
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, And all of the stories that I wanted

877
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: to tell you have other witnesses.

878
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so that it's not just like me.

879
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: Experiencing something by myself, Like what if I I don't know,

880
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: like let's have to sleep and saw something, you know.

881
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: No, it's the best when you have a witness. Okay.

882
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: So so what's another one? Give us a give us

883
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: one of these famous Zaia witness stories.

884
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: I think my next favorite one would be the cowboy

885
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: ghost that my dad and I both saw one night

886
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: we were driving home from the airport. It was maybe

887
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: like four am. We were coming back from vacation whatever.

888
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: I think I was eighteen or nineteen. Still go on

889
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: vacation with my dad. By the way, he's the best

890
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: person in the world. So his house, for a little context,

891
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: is just out in the middle of nowhere. There are

892
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: not really neighbors, not really anything nearby, and there is

893
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: documented history of this cowboy gang called the Hole in

894
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: the Wall gang there. They had to shoot out at

895
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: these ruins that you can still hike to and you

896
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: can see bullet holes in the walls. So we know

897
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: that there's like a history, like a physical history there

898
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: of cowboys. And I think this was the event that

899
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: turned my dad into a believer of the paranormal, because

900
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: he's such a skeptic, like such a scientific mind, brilliant guy,

901
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: like no cuckoo bananas, you know, I've seen it before.

902
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: If you can get a skeptical dad on board, that's

903
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: the best.

904
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: It was.

905
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: But it was also terrifying. But we were driving, it

906
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: was so late at night, it was so dark. We

907
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: were both quite kind of tired, you know, just excited

908
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: to be home. Had a great vacation, and we turned

909
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: this one curve in the road and on one side

910
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: of the road there is a deep drop, a cliff,

911
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: and on the other side there's a steep rise, like

912
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: a really steep mountain. And we see this person step

913
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: out from the side where the cliff was and stopped

914
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: in the middle of the road and turn to us,

915
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: and we were like, first of all, weird, like does

916
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: this guy need help? What's going on? And we both

917
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: sat for a second and looked at him a little

918
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: bit closer and realized he was wearing full like old

919
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: school cowboy gear at three in the morning in the

920
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. And we look closer and he has

921
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: no color. He's black and white like plastic ghosts almost,

922
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: is like the only way I can describe it. Was shocking,

923
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: and I screamed at the top of my lungs. I

924
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: was like, Dad, you have to drive the car right now.

925
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: And my dad drove as fast as he could away

926
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: from there. We were like, Okay, this guy has to

927
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: have a horse, he has to have a truck, like

928
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: we're going to see evidence of like how he got

929
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: up this crazy cliff, you know. And we kept driving

930
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: and we didn't see any truck. We didn't see any horse.

931
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: We didn't see any mode of transportation, and we're like,

932
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: oh no, like, should we go back to help him?

933
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: Was it actually a person? And my dad was like,

934
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: he didn't have any seat, you.

935
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 2: Didn't have any feet? No, And he was like walking,

936
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: he was.

937
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: Walking, no feet off a cliffs, no horse, no cars, like,

938
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: no way he could have been there.

939
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: Oh so I'm guessing you didn't turn back and help No.

940
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: No, no no. After he said that, I was like, Okay,

941
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: we're just going to go home and we're going to

942
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: lock the doors and we're just gonna go to bed.

943
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good one. Okay, give me more, give

944
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: me more.

945
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: Okay, one of my more. Do you want to hear

946
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: about my friend ghosts?

947
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 4: Yes?

948
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: So my ghost friend his name is Peebee. I believe

949
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: he's kind of younger because he's kind of a prankster

950
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: around the house. And my first encounter with him was

951
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: when I was living near Santa Monica and I bought

952
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: a big jug of peanut butter because I had been

953
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: craving peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for like a month.

954
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, let's do it. And I

955
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: got a huge jug of peanut butter. Maybe the next

956
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: day or later on that day. I went up to

957
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: go make myself a peanut butter jelly sandwich, and I

958
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: reached out for the peanut butter bot in the cabinet

959
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: and there was no peanut butter. And I was like, okay, weird.

960
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I put it somewhere else. I left it all

961
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: all of my bags. I looked in all the cabinets,

962
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,479
Speaker 1: I looked in the fridge. I was literally all over

963
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: my entire house because I knew I just got peanut

964
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: butter and I really wanted it, but I couldn't find it.

965
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: And a few days go by, I was like, whatever,

966
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: maybe I just forgot to get it or threw it

967
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: away on accident or something. A few days later, I

968
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: opened a cabinet that I had opened I don't know,

969
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: maybe ten times since then. I just had pets in it,

970
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: and I was getting a cup to get a glass

971
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: of water. Whatever. I opened the cabinet and this giant

972
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: thing of peanut butter comes flying out and hits me

973
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: on my head, and I was like, okay, that's strange. Whatever.

974
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: And that was my first experience with peanut butter ghosts.

975
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: I've had him around for a while. He kind of

976
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: does weird things. I say he I feel like it's

977
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: like a meal energy. But I don't really know for sure.

978
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't mind me calling a pie. But

979
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: my most recent encounter with him was I was sitting

980
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: with my current boyfriend on the couch and we were

981
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: just watching TV and a giant amp, like a guitar

982
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: amp that we had sitting in the corner of the

983
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: room just dims into the middle of the room on

984
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: the floor. We're both just like looking at each other

985
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: and looked down and just looked right back at the TV,

986
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: trying not to acknowledge it.

987
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: Oh, that peanut butter got him strong. That's like that

988
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: would take fource.

989
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is not like a light thing. That's not

990
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: like a piece of paper.

991
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: So this peanut butter goes has been with you through

992
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: multiple homes?

993
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, four or five?

994
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: Now what? So where do you think he came from?

995
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: I have no clue, and I feel like at some

996
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: point I would like to get answers about him, but

997
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: that's not something that I want to do by myself.

998
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 2: Okay, what are you what are you thinking on that? Why?

999
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Now it seems a little bit scary to communicate it

1000
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: directly with something that's been with you for a while,

1001
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: like it might be a family member or like a

1002
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: really just nice ghost that I picked up along the way.

1003
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of in the back of my mind

1004
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: like what if it's something scarier, you know.

1005
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: But overall, it's just been little pranks and stuff like that, right, Yeah, a.

1006
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: Little pranks, Like at first it was the peanut butter

1007
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: multiple times, like for the first two years it just

1008
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: had to do with peanut Butter That's why his name

1009
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: was peanut Butter Ghosts. And then it moved on to

1010
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: bigger and better pranks.

1011
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: Fascinating. So once like the last time you encountered this ghost.

1012
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: The ant happened I believe three weeks ago, maybe a

1013
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: month ago.

1014
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah cool. Could it be now just

1015
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: just hear me out. Could it be that it's one

1016
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: of these like telekinesis things and you are moving things.

1017
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be so cool?

1018
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: Or does it really feel like it's an outside ghost,

1019
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: Like could it be possible that you have magic powers

1020
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: and you can move things?

1021
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: I I'm not sure. I feel like that would be

1022
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: amazing and I would love to learn more about that.

1023
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and learn how to control it and like make

1024
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: it useful and not just.

1025
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: Like random things flying around. I don't know, it's hard

1026
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: to say. I feel like that again. Is another thing,

1027
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: like I haven't given it too much of my energy

1028
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: because you know, watching all the ghost shows and stuff like,

1029
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: you are not supposed to give it too much of

1030
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: your energy. I feel like I need I need like

1031
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: a third party.

1032
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't listen to me, because I'm like, yeah, let's

1033
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: figure it out. I want to know.

1034
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: No, I want to note to you. I do want

1035
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: to listen to you. And now I'm like, what if I.

1036
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: I think you are and I think that would be

1037
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: so cool if you were, And I'm jealous. Okay, give

1038
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: us one more.

1039
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see we can do it. How about you

1040
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: decide the UFO. Okay. So I was in the hot

1041
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: tub one night with my dad. It's always my dath

1042
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: my dad might always have experiences together. I don't know why.

1043
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: This was after a day of snowboarding. We were in

1044
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: the hot tub. It was night, it was beautiful out.

1045
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: We were just looking up at the sky chilling.

1046
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: Where were you at.

1047
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: His house in New Mexico in the mountains. Okay, these

1048
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: are kind of incredible.

1049
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 2: UFOs famously love that state.

1050
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: Apparently, so you know. But our theory about that is

1051
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: that the light pollution there is so low that you

1052
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: can just see the sky is better totally. So I

1053
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: feel like more people just have experiences there.

1054
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh, in La, if you can see a plane, that's

1055
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: a clear day. I swear to god, it's so disgusting

1056
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: up there.

1057
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: The Goodyear blimp.

1058
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: Yes, But also I feel like the UFOs. I mean,

1059
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: it's possible there's UFOs flying all over La. We just

1060
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: can't see him because of the smog. But if I

1061
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: was an alien, I'd be like, let's skip this place.

1062
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: It is nasty in this air.

1063
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: I would be like, I want to be able to

1064
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: see down.

1065
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like this, this nasty ass air is going

1066
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: to make my UFO dirty. I just got it waxed.

1067
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: I do not need this pollution. Okay. So, so you're

1068
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: in New Mexico, clear skies. You're in the hot tub.

1069
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: The guys in the hot tub just chilling or laying

1070
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: down kind of looking up at the stars. He's like

1071
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: a space knowledgeable about space guy. He's telling me about

1072
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: planets and like space time and cool thing and I'm

1073
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: just sitting there listening, and we both see like three

1074
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: dots in the sky kind of moving in unison, and

1075
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, like I wonder for us to do

1076
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: with military Like I don't I don't know military things.

1077
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: I was like, helicopterras, I don't know. But as they

1078
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: kind of slowly came closer to us, we realized there

1079
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: was no sound. And then we realized that in between

1080
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: the dots we couldn't see the stars, and we're kind

1081
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: of like, okay, that's a solid object, kind of confused,

1082
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: and we were just staring that it's for a really

1083
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: long time, and I started to get kind of nervous

1084
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, I feel like we should get inside,

1085
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: Like this seems scary, Like I don't think that we

1086
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: have this technology to be moving this slowly something so

1087
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: big up there and so quiet, and I was just

1088
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: getting really scared. I was like, no, no, no, come on,

1089
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Speaker 1: just keep watching, like there might be something really cool,

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Speaker 1: like what if we see something no one's ever seen before,

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Speaker 1: like it's really awesome. And I was like, oh, I can,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go inside. I was just really nervous, but

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Speaker 1: my dad stayed out for a long time, and he

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Speaker 1: just stared at it, and he said it kind of

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Speaker 1: lingered there for a while, got a little closer, got

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Speaker 1: a little further away, kind of moved around a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and then without a link, without like a word, without anything,

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Speaker 1: it was just gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, classic UFO.

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Speaker 4: Just that's what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Telling you, he's out.

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Speaker 1: I keep having like classic stories that have happened in

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Speaker 1: my life, and that's why a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: believe me. And I'm like, I know it. I saw

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Speaker 1: what I saw.

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Speaker 2: These are great stories. Thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 2: the time. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much to all of our listens news,

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Speaker 2: thank you once again to Tim, Allison and Zia and

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Speaker 2: that could be you one day, so please send in

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Speaker 2: those emails. I love you all, both living and dead.

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Speaker 6: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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Speaker 6: haunt me, hey By, this has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 6: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I

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Speaker 6: read stories out loud.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes I'll even call you. So email me at

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Speaker 2: ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there,

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Speaker 2: and follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and

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Speaker 2: on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior

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Speaker 2: producer is the startling Jeeha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 2: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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Speaker 2: by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the

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Speaker 2: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising

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Speaker 2: Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by the spine

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Speaker 2: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.

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Speaker 2: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

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Speaker 2: Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hard Start, and the

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Speaker 2: Frightening Danielle Kramer.