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Speaker 1: what you missed today?

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Speaker 2: All right, well, what you missed, but we're about to

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Speaker 2: review it again here for a couple of minutes. Is

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Speaker 2: that the human trafficking bill that was the work of

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Speaker 2: State Senator Shannon Grove, a Republican from Bakersfield, has made

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Speaker 2: it past the Assembly Appropriations Committee. She puts it with

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Speaker 2: minor amendments. We hope to have her on the show

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Speaker 2: before we go off the air at four o'clock, but

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Speaker 2: she seems happy about it.

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Speaker 3: What's going to happen next.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be heard by the full Assembly for

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Speaker 2: a vote sometime before they adjourned for the year on

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Speaker 2: September fourteenth. So we had some concerns about this Appropriations committee,

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Speaker 2: but they did allow it to be voted on that

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Speaker 2: already passed the state Senate, So if it passes the Assembly,

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Speaker 2: it'll then move on to Tippity Do. Governor Gavin news

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Speaker 2: still greatly strengthen the prison terms for guys who sell

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I considered a serious offense, and the word serious is

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Speaker 2: important when it comes to the possible punishments.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how this became controversial only in this

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Speaker 3: Another bill, sadly that did also make its.

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Speaker 2: Way out of this Appropriations Committee in the Assembly and

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Speaker 2: on its way to a vote is Senate Bill ninety four.

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Speaker 2: We've mentioned it a few times. In fact, we threw

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Speaker 2: Dave Cortie. This would allow murderers, murderers, even if they

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Speaker 2: got the death penalty or life in prison without the

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Speaker 2: possibility of parole, a chance for freedom. Hard to believe.

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Speaker 2: There are some caveats to it. The offense have to

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Speaker 3: We've mentioned this before.

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Speaker 2: There are some, including the La County DA George Gascon,

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Speaker 1: The San Jose Mercury News had an example today. We

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Speaker 1: make you furious? And I don't know who this David

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Speaker 1: this bill he wrote would let a guy like that out.

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Speaker 1: That's just it makes you want to throw up, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about this now with a man who's

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Speaker 2: been on our show several times and he's in the

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Speaker 3: His name is Bill A.

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Speaker 2: Sally from the Inland Empire, and he also was a prosecutor.

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Speaker 2: He was once an assistant United States Attorney as well

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Speaker 2: as a Riverside County Deputy DA. So let's bring him

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Speaker 3: Hey Bill, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good? And I just have to say I got

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Speaker 4: the treat to visit your studios last Friday and say

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Speaker 3: It was very nice meeting you as well.

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Speaker 1: It was Yes, Oh, I didn't realize that we were

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Speaker 5: No, I wasn't the one that was giving the tour.

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Speaker 1: No, well, Bill, what is this as bad as it seems.

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Speaker 4: It's worse because think about this, in all these cases

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Speaker 4: We're not talking about your regular murder. This has to

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Speaker 3: Do we know how many people could qualify under this?

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Speaker 4: gets backwards, right. What is their whole goal here? It's

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Speaker 4: It's art, it's your buddy Estevon Nunez. He writes this.

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Speaker 4: They're the sponsors of the bill. The sponsors write the bill.

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Speaker 4: So it's the same people behind all of these anti

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Speaker 4: the ones pulling the strings. They're the ones writing these bills. Now, well, and.

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Speaker 1: No one enough to read the bill and realize this

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Speaker 4: Of course he knows that, but he's not the one

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Speaker 2: And this will be incremental. Don't you believe that what

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Speaker 4: Yep. So now artificially we've decided that twenty five years

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Speaker 4: It's just we have to hold the log on this.

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Speaker 4: This is not we should not be negotiating with these people.

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Speaker 1: This overrules death sentences.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, like you said that that was the compromise

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Speaker 1: Life with that parole means that that was the deal

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Speaker 4: So here's what we have to do. Because they always

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Speaker 4: this bill. These are bad people. They cannot be out

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Speaker 3: No, definitely. I mean we've seen it all the last

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Speaker 1: But this is really shocking that virtually every murder that

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Speaker 4: Well, I want you to note how the legislature works.

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Speaker 4: So they wrote it to include death penalties. They probably

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Speaker 4: It's always they're always incrementally moving it in one direction,

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Speaker 1: And these legislators don't care how violent our society comes

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Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't matter to them at all.

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Speaker 4: Huh. They live in a bubble in Sacramento. They're surrounded

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Speaker 4: This is almost like a cult or religion to these people.

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Speaker 1: No, they did have the characteristics of like a cult,

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Speaker 4: They would not. And really that's why the public is

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Speaker 4: little bit worried, like you saw with SV fourteen there,

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Speaker 4: and the governor wanted to run for president. That's the

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Speaker 4: only thing that's mitigating things up here right now.

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Speaker 1: You think Newsome signs this while he's planning to run

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Speaker 1: for president.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so, to be honest, not if he

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Speaker 2: All right, Bill, thank you so much for sharing the

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on anytime.

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Speaker 4: Keep up the good work, thank you.

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Speaker 3: All right. That's Republican Assemblyman Bill A.

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Speaker 2: Sally from Riverside County and he's updating his son Senate

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Speaker 2: Of college and academics. Number one is cal Tech. Again,

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Speaker 2: Well, the news came down later in the show yesterday

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Speaker 2: So, the idea behind equity is do whatever you have

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Speaker 1: Now, this is where it's gone from beyond beyond a

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Speaker 2: then she can get full time retirement benefits and the

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Speaker 2: honorary title of emeritus. I guess they had to negotiate

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Speaker 2: this with her. She get a bunch of faculty members

443
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Speaker 2: that have been complaining about this for a long time,

444
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Speaker 2: that she's fake.

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Speaker 1: Well, according to one journalist, Jacqueline Keeler, the world of

446
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Speaker 1: academic academia has become a breeding ground for these fake

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Speaker 1: people falsely claiming indigenous identity because it gives them all

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Speaker 1: kinds of professional benefits.

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Speaker 3: You get hired, Oh yeah, you know, you're you're you're you're.

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Speaker 1: It helps you politically, it helps you make money because

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Speaker 1: you'll be on a fast track to tenure, right, uh,

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Speaker 1: and and and so because this is what you do

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Speaker 1: when you when you give an arbitrary benefit to the

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Speaker 1: random nature of your ethnicity. Well, of course others are

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Speaker 1: going to say, it's like, you know what I want

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Speaker 1: that ethnicity? And and with with with uh claiming your

457
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Speaker 1: indigenous Nobody can really tell visually whether you are or

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Speaker 1: you're not.

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Speaker 2: And I imagine sometimes the genetic records are probably not

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Speaker 2: so easy to.

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Speaker 1: No, they're not going to demand a DNA sample. They're

462
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Speaker 1: not going to run you through get your DNA and

463
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Speaker 1: run it through ancestry dot com or twenty three in May.

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Speaker 1: So they're relying on your honesty. Wow, people by nature

465
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Speaker 1: are very dishonest when they're ambitious and they want some

466
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Speaker 1: kind of game.

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Speaker 2: She hired a guy back in the nineteen nineties, named

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Speaker 2: Dave Cornsilk, a retired genealogist and a citizen of the

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Speaker 2: Cherokee Nation, to research her genealogy on both their mothers

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Speaker 2: and father's side. He found no trace of Cherokee ancestry

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Speaker 2: in her entire bloodline, but she faked it.

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Speaker 3: Her name is Smith.

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Speaker 2: In fact, this has been reported in the New York Times,

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Speaker 2: and the New York Times magazine did a story on

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Speaker 2: it too.

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Speaker 3: Well. They did a story I guess on people who

477
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Speaker 3: faked their This was Elizabeth Warren's scam. Okay, I know.

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Speaker 1: And it gets you get hired this way because the

479
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Speaker 1: stupid administrators at these universities bought into this equity nonsense

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Speaker 1: and they're hiring people based on what they say city is.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a little harder to do that with race,

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Speaker 1: but people try anyway. You can always claim a fractional

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Speaker 1: component and you like to show the world look at

484
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Speaker 1: our staff. We even have indigenous Native American people here.

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Speaker 1: Except normal people don't care about that stuff. What normal

486
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Speaker 1: people care about is, uh, do you do you know

487
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Speaker 1: your subject matter?

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Speaker 3: Can you teach it? Well? All right, we got more

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Speaker 3: coming up.

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Speaker 2: Johnny Ken kf I AM six forty live everywhere I

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Speaker 2: heard radio.

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Speaker 1: App This equity thing will collapse. I hope that's another

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Speaker 1: thing that's gonna that's gonna die.

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Speaker 6: Johnny Ken, you're listening to John and Ken on demand

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Speaker 6: from KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we were able to get State Senator

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Speaker 2: Shannon Grove to come on at three oh five, so

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Speaker 2: it's shifting things around a little. She of course will

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Speaker 2: talk about her Senate Built fourteen, the one that's gonna

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Speaker 2: more harshly punish the child sex traffickers. It got out

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Speaker 2: of the Appropriations Committee in the State Assembly today, which

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Speaker 2: means it will be up for a full vote. It

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Speaker 2: already passed the State Senate, so it's that much closer

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Speaker 2: to becoming law, and then there would be dippity deu

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Speaker 2: sign you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Pour the champagne. What where did you get that? Shannon

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Speaker 1: left me this bottle of champagne. Oh, she only drank

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Speaker 1: three quarters of it, so there was this sounds thirsty

509
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to have a swig after Shannon Grove

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Speaker 1: tells us that she's happy with the bill progressing and

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Speaker 1: that there are no secret killer amendments in it. Poison pill,

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Speaker 1: poison pills exactly. Yeah, there were some amendments. She's calling

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Speaker 1: the minor. We'll find out what those were. And then

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Speaker 1: after three point thirty we'll talk to a resident of

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Speaker 1: Porter Ranch about the fact that the Eliso Canyon gas

516
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Speaker 1: fields are just going to get bigger. And then I'm

517
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Speaker 1: going to take another swig to celebrate Mark Ridley Thomas

518
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Speaker 1: going to prison.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't happen till November thirteenth, pig. We got

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Speaker 2: to get started now, No, that could happen between now

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Speaker 2: and then. And then I'm gonna go take a and

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Speaker 2: then the moist line. Yeah, we heard there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of callers this week. We'll see what they have

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Speaker 2: to say at.

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Speaker 3: Three twenty and about an hour from now. We mentioned this,

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 2: Either yesterday the day before. How people are apparently seeking

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Speaker 2: out drugs that were really meant to treat people with diabetes,

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Speaker 2: but they have the effect of helping you lose weight.

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Speaker 2: Anybody know ozempic. The commercials are everywhere all over the

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Speaker 2: West Side. Something else called Munjaro. It's from Lily Eli

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Speaker 2: Lillian Company.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same idea.

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Speaker 2: So the story in the Wall Street Journal. If you

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Speaker 2: can believe it or not. Is that people are going

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Speaker 2: into debt or they're taking second jobs so they can

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Speaker 2: afford to buy these weight loss drugs because a lot

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Speaker 2: of insurance does not cover the cost of you procuring

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Speaker 2: something like ozempic. There's another one called we gov we

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Speaker 2: go vy like that one. Right, that's right, it's a

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Speaker 2: sister drug of ozempi.

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Speaker 1: These are all supposed to help, right. It turns out

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Speaker 1: a side effect is you lose weight quickly.

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Speaker 2: So as soon as people found that out, they talked

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Speaker 2: to Tinam, a reporter. She pays one thousand dollars a

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Speaker 2: month out of pocket for Munjaro. One thousand dollars. She's

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Speaker 2: decided to take a second job. She doesn't look heavy

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Speaker 2: at all in the photo.

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Speaker 3: I'm not really sure that that's the woman with the glasses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tinam, a reporter, sure looks real skinny she does.

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Speaker 2: Is this after she's lost weight? Does she need to

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Speaker 2: keep taking this?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: She's a forty nine year old director of operations. She

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Speaker 2: takes on more assignments, she seeks odd jobs, she does

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Speaker 2: whatever she.

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Speaker 3: Has to do.

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Speaker 2: Wow, she says, it's life changing, but I shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: to pay because my insurance won't cover it. It's making

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Speaker 2: me healthier. It makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: Listen, but listen to this. There's this woman, Jordan Jones.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Jones, her boyfriend now working twelve hour shifts, four

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Speaker 1: days a week to pay for her eight hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: a month drug supply.

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Speaker 3: That's a nice boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Hupple is cutting back on eating out, well, that would

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Speaker 2: help with your weight loss.

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Speaker 3: Ask groceries and alcohol that'll.

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Speaker 1: Help do Maybe you should have started that, cut out

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Speaker 1: the eating of the drinking and then see how that goes.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can never go broke.

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Speaker 2: Giving people the easy way out if you can sell

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Speaker 2: it somehow, this is the easy way out, rather of

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Speaker 2: doing the hard work of just cutting back on food

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Speaker 2: and maybe working out a little bit.

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Speaker 3: People just want to pill.

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Speaker 1: I am just waiting to see if there's going to

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Speaker 1: be some kind of terrible side effect.

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Speaker 2: Now, there have been reports of side effects from these drugs,

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Speaker 2: but like some people have been hospitalized. But like all

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Speaker 2: of those celebrities who went on social media to talk

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Speaker 2: about the side effects.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know if those were you know,

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Speaker 1: a random odd ball events or I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there's anything widespread, But I'm thinking like down the road.

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Speaker 1: You know, we find out that you know, in about

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Speaker 1: three years, pancreas swallows out.

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Speaker 2: All right, here's the most common side effect with we

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Speaker 2: Govi's nausea, which is forty four percent of the people.

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Speaker 3: Well, that'll make you not want to eat, won't it.

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Speaker 2: Diarrhea thirty percent, vomiting twenty four percent, constipation twenty four percent,

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Speaker 2: stomach area pain twenty percent, bloating, heartburned, belching, or gas.

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Speaker 2: Ray took this, he wouldn't even know the difference. Oh see,

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Speaker 2: this is what I meant. Some people have had gallbladder problems,

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Speaker 2: I remember Rina, and some have had pancreatitis. Some have

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Speaker 2: had some kidney problems.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: See that's when it gets really scary. Now, that may

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Speaker 2: be a small percent of the people.

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Speaker 3: You have to take this forever? Or when you get

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Speaker 3: off the pills, do you start bloating up again?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know if it's been

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Speaker 2: around long enough for us tonight.

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Speaker 3: You know what I told you. I know somebody supposedly.

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him directly, but I heard from

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Speaker 1: a friend of a friend kind of thing. Thirty two

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Speaker 1: pounds in a month. And my first reaction is that

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Speaker 1: healthy to do to your body, your system? That is

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Speaker 1: a lot of weight loss in a short time.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's and.

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Speaker 5: If you go back to your prior eating habits, you're

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Speaker 5: going to just gain the weight back. So if you

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Speaker 5: do stop the medication, it would seem that you're just

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Speaker 5: going to get the weight back if you don't change

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Speaker 5: your eating habits.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who's gonna be able to pay twelve thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars a year indefinitely for this?

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Speaker 2: I love the way they refer to it in the

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Speaker 2: story that taking it for weight loss is off label. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the drugs really prescribe for the diabetics to help control

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Speaker 2: their blood sugar.

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Speaker 1: And this happens occasionally where it turns out there's another

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Speaker 1: benefit to a drug, right, and the physicians say, oh,

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Speaker 1: well it's it wasn't created for problem A, but since

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Speaker 1: it fixes problem big, oh ahead to take it.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at another story, and it does say

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Speaker 2: that the drugs are expensive, the drugs can cause unpleasant

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Speaker 2: gastro intestinal side effects. There is a small percentage of

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Speaker 2: people of suffer'd suffer from a diabetic eye complication called retinopathy.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's meant to stave off bad diabetes. So if

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Speaker 1: you're headed down diabetic road, which is terrible complications, this

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Speaker 1: is supposed to save you from going there.

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Speaker 3: Going into debt for a weight loss strug.

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Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, State Senator Shannon Grove returns

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Speaker 2: to The John and Ken Show. The Republican from Bakersfield

637
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Speaker 2: probably has something to celebrate. Her bill, Senate Bill fourteen

638
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Speaker 2: to go after the sex traffickers of miners.

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Speaker 3: Well acrossed the big hurdle.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be voted on by the full Assembly,

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Speaker 2: and after passing the State Senate, it's pretty close to

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Speaker 2: becoming law. Johnny Ken caf I AM six forty live everywhere,

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: You took this, you would disappear.

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Speaker 5: Well, I do need to lose a few pounds, but

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Speaker 5: I'm just going to stop stuffing my face.

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Speaker 1: Right with vegan shakes. All right, Debra Mark Laden in

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Speaker 1: the twenty four Hour Cafe Newsroom.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show.

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Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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Speaker 2: forty pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, and

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00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,480
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