WEBVTT - Dynamite Storylines/Kota Ibushi Update 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:09.960 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, ready, 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:15.600 let's get it all. How's it going? Everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.360 here on or wrestling him over live. We are here 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.920 every day Monday to Friday, New Pacific three e Sterns 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.160 Sunday Street Pacific sixth Eastern. Oh, we got a lot 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.800 to get into here today it is Thursday here on 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:32.440 the program, and uh, and a lot to get into you. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.559 Last night, a W Dynamite and a lot of Angles 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.400 shot a lot of storylines leading for their pay per 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.520 view coming up at the end of the month, which 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.000 we will be attending. I might add, we'll tell you 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.440 about a W Dynamite n x T two point oh 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.240 ratings from Wednesday nights we got some more all time 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.640 record lows, which, of course, if you're a fan of 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:57.080 women's professional wrestling, that's bad news because that was an 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.960 all women's show. Every single match on the show featured 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:05.319 women and did a record low number. We've also got 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:10.080 notes on the A W. Warner media relationship. We have 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.640 got an update on Coda a bushe and uh, this 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.000 is not looking good. For Coda Abushi. We'll tell you 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.520 about that here today Roman Reigns. We talked a little 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.800 bit about the idea that he is peering down his 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.240 schedule this summer, and in fact he is perhaps not 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:32.479 is uh, perhaps not is dramatically as we had thought, 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.560 but still fairly dramatic. And uh, there's a key to 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.119 this that's more than just him being off shows. We've 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:42.679 got n x T returning to touring, more n I 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:49.720 L Deals, Hikaru Shida, and plenty more. So, if you're 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.920 hoping for frivolity on this show, ain't gonna get it. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.800 Alison didn't sleep at all last night. Whatever illness I had, 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:02.800 I still got in here. And my daughter didn't sleep 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:07.960 at all last night. So it's been rough, don't you 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.600 know what. I'm here and so are you. And so 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.680 when we come back from the break, we're gonna get 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.120 in all of this news. Four to five zero seven, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.840 five six six back in a moment more Wrestling Observer Live. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.880 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:56.080 and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network, playing 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.120 the show Bright Albare is here. Wrestling Observer Live, Mike 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.280 simber VIVI also wrestling Observe dot Com. I try to 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.840 tell you, but it was too late. I got a buzz, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.919 not the right kind of buzz either. You're exactly right. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.639 You know what kind of buzz I need right now, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.760 A night cool buzz. This is miserable. Why did you 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.720 give this to me? How did you give me your 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.160 sickness that not only now won't go away, that is 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.480 infecting your family again. How did this happen? I I 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.880 don't know. It's not affecting them again, the issues that 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:29.720 won't go away. Yeah, you switched to the other channel 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.600 while I get going on all this stuff right here? Alright, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.000 Uh yeah, we got a lot of news to get 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.160 into here today. So I mean the first story I 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.720 want to get into the kind of talked about this 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:45.840 a W discovery thing and what does it mean? And uh, well, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.080 we don't know. But one of the major players that 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.920 helped a E W expand within Warner Media is leaving 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:59.040 the company. Deadline first reported Wednesday. Brett White's general manager 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.840 of T and T, t B S and True TV, 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.720 will be transitioning out of his role within the next 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.640 month after fourteen years within Turner might spend himself with 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.520 that position. Following the Warner Media Discovery merger took over 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.320 as GM when a W launched on TNT helped the 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.559 guide subsequent expansion with the Rampage and Battle of the Belt, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.280 in addition to reviving the John Cena led wipeout on TBS. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.719 New environment within the new Warner Brothers Discovery corporate environment 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.640 to be shaken up due to the fallout from the 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:35.279 recently approved merger. So again, what does this mean? We 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:40.839 don't know, but I can tell you some facts. This 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.640 guy's gone. He helped with the expansion of a W. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.640 That doesn't mean a W is being canceled, but obviously, 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.320 obviously objectively factually, it certainly would have been better if 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:58.320 he had been promoted instead of fired. Now, you guys 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:03.640 remember the A O L. Time Warner merger and ultimately 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.840 the death of w CW and all of the people 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:11.400 that were booking and et cetera with WCW. They have 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.920 laid all the blame on the A O L. Time 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:20.120 Warner merger because they can't blame themselves. I mean, they could, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.760 but they don't, and so it's all the fault of 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:27.039 the merger. Well, What happened was they booked the company 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:32.719 into oblivion and it was bleeding millions and millions and 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.800 millions and millions of dollars of sixty five million dollars 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.760 had lost in a year. Okay, so yeah, if you 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.680 if you do a merger and you hire a guy 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.960 who doesn't like wrestling and the wrestling shows bleeding money, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:49.800 yeah it gets canceled. Now, a few years earlier, the 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.039 BCW is grossing a hundred million dollars a year, which 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.080 back then that was the most lucrative wrestling company in 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.040 history of the planet Earth. And given we don't know 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.280 if there's alien life and the history of this universe, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.560 no company had ever been more lucrative than World Championship. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.240 I was talking w WF in the eighties with Hogan nothing. Ever, 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.800 they were number one in history. Now, if there had 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.600 been a merger then I mean, there's no guarantee that 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.760 they would have been canceled because they would have been 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:26.120 making money. So Rampage and Dynamite are doing very very 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:30.160 well given the time slot, what they're what is being 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.840 paid for the programming, etcetera. So there may very well 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:38.240 be people within a Well or UH Warner Media here 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.880 that don't like wrestling, but it's a business, and if 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.720 the wrestling is doing well, it doesn't matter if they 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.880 don't like wrestling or not. If they're here to do business, 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:49.640 then a w is gonna be fine. They may even 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.400 get a better deal. But that's not a guarantee. Not 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.520 a guarantee they'll get the same money. None of this 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.560 is a guarantee. So we'll see what happens. But that 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.160 is the that is the latest shake up with this 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:06.800 merger here. What it is a guarantee in life, Brian, 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:14.800 nothing that I'm sick that's guaranteed. Actually it is Koda 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:21.559 bush So. I talked about Coda Bushy. He's gonna take over. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.000 When it comes time for a w to make a move, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.240 he's gonna make his bid. So there's a lot of 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.800 stuff out there about Koda Bushi. You know what I am? 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:35.680 What's that? I'm a man of facts, Okay, So I'm 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:40.200 only gonna tell you what I'm I'm pretty confident is 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.679 is going on here. He's on Twitter. That is the fact. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.320 This guy probably needs to get off Twitter here. So 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.800 there's been a lot of translations of tweets and I'm 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.600 not gonna go into any of those because they're just 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.960 they're all over the place, all right. But I do 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.960 know this, as I meant it a couple of days ago. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:06.560 He doesn't like them attempting to force him to come 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.679 back and work hurt okay, And part of the story 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.160 that I don't think it's been talked about by anybody 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.280 is do you remember the G One last year? Bro, 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:21.520 This guy was the walking wounded. He was hurting in 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.200 that g One and uh, and didn't matter. They wanted 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:29.560 him to work the g One. And Uh, this issue 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.960 that he's had, I mean, I don't know how far 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.360 it dates back, but it dates back at least to 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.720 the G One and maybe further back. So he was 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.560 just like he was in bad shape during the g One, 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.040 and uh, there was there was a lot of there 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.240 were issues between the two sides because of that. They 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.480 wanted him in the g One and uh he was hurting, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.839 but he did the g One because that's what they wanted, 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.079 and uh, you know, he then went on and uh 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:03.240 injured his shoulder. And I think that, you know, there's 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.199 probably a lot of blame in his brain for that one. Like, Bro, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:07.679 I didn't even want to work this g One you 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.000 guys made me work this g one. You made me 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.440 do all this one I don't want to. And then 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.439 I got hurt, and then he gets hurt, and uh, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.079 you know, I think it was a separated shoulder. And 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.080 you know, I can talk quite a bit about separated 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.880 shoulders because I separated both of mind wrestling. And when 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.839 he talked about bench pressing, I never bench pressed as 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.720 much as a bush. He did, okay, but uh, for 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.320 a while there, I could bench a lot. I could 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.120 bench to eighty and I separated my shoulder and I 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.959 could not bench that bar for a long time. And uh, 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.040 he actually need a tweet literally saying the exact same 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:41.400 thing I used to bench. I think he said like 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.600 three pounds or something like that. Now I'm I'm benching like, uh, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:46.880 you know, a little bit more than the bar. He 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.800 has no strength. His shoulder is nowhere near recovered. That's 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.600 what happens when you separate your shoulder. It's serious. And 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.360 they've been trying to get him come back. He doesn't 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.439 want to come back. And I think, I don't know, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:03.480 but these puzzle pieces together. This dude's already angry that 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.959 he got hurt working a match. When he didn't want 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.480 to work a match, and then as he's recovering and 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.559 not recovered, they're trying to get him back again. So 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.680 that's one of the that's one of that's that's perhaps 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.880 the crux of the issue. And then this guy's just 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.880 gotten nuts on Twitter, okay, and uh so he was 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:26.120 talking about this uh Cokuchie guy that he claims is 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:32.079 uh the booker, and uh, you know, everyone's been under 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.640 the oppression that Ghetto is the booker. And I don't know, 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.680 I don't know exactly what's going on. I'm not gonna lie. Okay, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:46.440 Dave says that Ghetto is still the booker and as 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.559 of just not that long ago. I mean, if Ghetto 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.600 wasn't the booker, then the wrestlers didn't know about it, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.640 because I had wrestlers talking to me about how Ghetto 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.920 was the booker. Now I talked to somebody in Japan 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.640 who told me that when a bushi actually said, is 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:05.920 Cokuchi is a booker, not the booker. And so I 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.720 don't know what that means if he's in charge of 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:13.280 this or that or whatever, but it appears that this 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.960 Cookuchie is doing something and it wasn't supposed to come out, 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.360 and so Ibushi coming out with this, and then you 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.040 know a bunch of other stuff that that he has 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:29.000 said on on Twitter. Uh, you know, I don't. I don't. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.400 I'm not over there. People over there no way more 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.280 than me about the culture. But I was told by 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:40.720 somebody who is there all the time, very connected, that 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.760 this isn't like America, where you know, Cody goes on TV, 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.400 he says a bunch of stuff about w W and 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.480 he buries hbody ridicules him. But then his contract comes 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.440 up and they're like, bro, we want this guy and 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:56.080 they hire him. Okay, that's not Japan. The exact wording 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.320 I was told was he's burned his bridges, as in 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.559 not just like New Japan. And I find it hard 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.760 to believe that nobody would want to hire Code of Bushi. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.560 But the culture of Japan is you don't do stuff 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.640 like this. This is a no no, you do not 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:17.040 reveal things. And he did, and so there's kind of 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.959 this feeling that you know, he may be done. Do 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.360 I believe the Code of Bushi is never wrestling again. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.760 I find that hard to believe. But suffice to say, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.240 this is a this is not good at this point 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.520 for Coda Bushy. So anyway, we'll getting Mike Stots and 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.400 talk more about the news after the break Observer Live 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.359 back in the show, Bright now Bre is here, Wrestling 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.600 Observer Alive, Mike Sumburvivie also have Wrestling Serve the company. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.400 I would just like to make it a budget clear 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.120 since a lot of people have asked on the on 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.880 the chat and he's on the show all the time. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.480 I've heard zero zilch from Rocky Romero, nothing and I 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:09.920 would bet if I asked him he would have no 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.640 idea what's going on. But and this is someone over 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.720 in Japan who is very well connected, who quite frankly, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.120 I don't think anybody listened to this way have any 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.440 idea who this is. So it's not just some random 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:26.160 wrestler talking about what they've heard. But anyway, and actually 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.400 it's from uh two different people in fact, not just one. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.560 So anything you want to add or should we just 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.920 move on here? The Havam like Big Audio Nightmare, which 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.880 is available for subscribers at Wrestling Observer dot com, talk 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.880 a lot about this situation up until the point today. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.240 Because we recorded the show after Observer Alive yesterday, So 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.720 we talked a lot about, uh, the entire situation with him, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.800 what he may have been intending to do, who Coochie 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.880 is and in a little bit of that sort of stuff. Um. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.920 At this point though that doesn't really matter. He what 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.360 the bottom line is is he is outright trying to 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.520 get fired and he can now there are maybe things 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.400 that are being translated that are being alleged that he 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.880 may be saying that you know, would put a negative 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.000 light on him wrestling anywhere in Japan, and he is 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.800 being very outspoken. Now. He is a man with options. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.200 One of those big options is coming to the United 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.760 States and going internationally and making money. Where Now that 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.120 becomes an issue is the a W relationship with New Japan, 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.760 the relationship with anybody who is that dealings with a 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:38.160 Bushe that's going to be very very interesting because his 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:42.920 best friend, you know, on that don't know these guys personally, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.400 but one of his best friends in the whole wide world, 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.800 Kenny Omega, is the executive vice president with a W. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.000 For business reasons that have nothing to do with Japan, 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.560 that have no bearing on AW whatsoever. They can say, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.920 we would like to bring in Coda, a Boushi and 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.640 it would make sense, except how would New Japan feel 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.680 about that? And there's where that whole can of worms 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:11.160 gets really, really nasty, and where it now affects American 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.920 wrestling fans were it affects this show mostly we'll talk 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.760 about it in the big Audio nightmare when it comes 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.040 to Japan, But when it comes to this show, it's 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.520 now going to be the relationship between Uchapan and a 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.440 W and Kota Obushi. And if he does leave, then 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.920 what happens? They've given up dating Roman Rains last night. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.440 Rains is off the hell and his Cell pay per 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.040 view will be wrestling at other pay per views this summer, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.680 and he will be doing some TV to be that's nice, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.880 nice to see. He'll be doing some angles to build 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.120 up those matches. But yes, he's gonna be working far 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.240 fewer dates and uh he's essentially gonna be doing the 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.440 same number of dates that Lessner was doing when Lesnar 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:58.080 was around, which was not very many dates. And uh me, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.120 congratulations on the deal, bro, I mean, it's all nice enough. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.240 I have nothing against Roman Reigns. Good for the guy, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.160 but Bro, so you guys did a unification match and 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:12.080 you unified the two main titles into one title, and 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.800 now the guy is never gonna be around. Even when 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.120 Lessner was never around, you had the other champion. So 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:24.760 essentially we've iced, We've iced the w w E and 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:31.160 Universal championships, and now we rely on the US title. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.360 Who cares anyone know who the U S Champion is 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.160 and we rely on the inter Continal championship. Anybody know 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:41.080 who the inter Continal champion is? And yes it's actually 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:45.200 Ricky Rickyche In theory, those are your top champions in 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.200 w w E. As they attempt to sell tickets, Ricky 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.280 Shane Page as the Intercontinental champion right now. They don't 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.320 care about their belts. There props as part of the game. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.520 As long as Roman or Brock has got one or 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.360 maybe Drew, it doesn't really matter. Well hold on his second. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.639 They do care about their belts because they had to 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.000 have not They had to have a raw and a 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.879 SmackDown World Champion. They had to have a raw and 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.960 a SmackDown second. Why did they not unify these belts 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.280 a long time ago? Because they felt, well, if we 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.199 go on the road, we've got to have these championship matches. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.760 If we have a raw show and a SmackDown touring show. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.320 We have to have championship matches. They believe it was 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.399 championship matches, but it was a weak argument from them 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.080 because their championships, if you look at it on paper, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.199 didn't really mean anything. They would have the belt on 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.720 guys sometimes, I mean your gender Mahal examples guys like 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.760 that that like this isn't gonna benefit you going out 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.879 on the road, that this person's you're champion of the 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.920 fact that you have two belts. What would you rather 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.520 see some geek with this belt or see Roman Reigns 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.320 or brock Lessners. So it was a weak argument to 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:55.080 begin with. I just at this point with how they 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.919 run their business and the Muppet Show that they like 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.840 to create this hybrid sports entertainment universe that that you know, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.160 saturates their fan base and makes them happy. I mean, 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.760 let them do what they want. That's how they're gonna 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.680 do it. That's how they feel about it. Fine, they 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.000 don't need multiple belts, they don't need to try to 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.040 fake push the US or i CE titles. I mean, 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.560 we've gone through that how many times and you know 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.280 where that always leads. So you know, it's nice to Hap. Well, 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.600 here's the reality, Mike. You're not a w w E fan, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.200 You're not stand up for w w E. So I'm 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.159 sure that yes, in in if you look at if 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.720 you look at w w E the way you look 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.800 at every other promotion, then you're right. But you this 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.600 is the thing that like you, I had the big argument. 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:47.639 I've had the argument from me, you're gonna try to 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.120 tie ww together with a wrestling promotion. I've I've had 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.359 this argument with people for like a month now about 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.560 Cody and the usage of Cody, and I'm still hearing it. 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:00.680 How badly they're using Cody. Cody's lost, he couldn't beat 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:05.880 Theory and you know he wonld On, hold on, bro, 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.280 if you go to the thread for any of our 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:13.040 shows over and over and over again, Cody is not 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.120 being used. Well, they've screwed up Cody. Blah blah blah, 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:21.399 and listen. This is a prime example of if you 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.520 want to put on your new Japan glasses and watch 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.359 w w E. If you want to put your a 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.200 W glasses on and watch w w if you want 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.240 to put your mid South glasses on and watch w Yeah, 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.760 they haven't done a good job with Cody or anybody. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.840 But if you put your w w E glasses on 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:39.840 and you'll go, oh, why don't we have to do 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.440 you know, great w w on a cur Yeah, of 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.000 course we do. Of course we have to grade w 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.960 w E in a curve. And the fact of the 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:51.280 matter is the way that w w E books. They 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.080 are doing a better job with Cody than anyone in 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:58.720 the entire company outside of Roman Reigns, anybody. So yes, 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.479 you have to grade on a and yes, if you 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.160 look at it in a traditional manner, these belts are meaningless. 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:10.359 These belts are useless. However, stand up for w w E. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:16.320 You deserve it. You still got it. Hey, everyone stand 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.400 up and sing my song. I'm a heel. They do it. Okay, 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:25.280 this audience, this audience, these belts means something. Why I 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:30.080 don't know, but they performers. They're hard working. They deserve 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.199 their belts to fens. They get into this stuff. I 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:37.439 don't know why, but they knew. So the fact that 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.280 we don't have a world champion, that it's gonna be 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:45.960 working out shows, going to live events. It's ridiculous. You 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:50.840 must have a champion, but they don't. You worked real 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.399 hard to get around to get to that, and you 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:59.760 brought Cody into it, and that was you have degrade 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:03.280 on a curve. You have to look at w W 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.520 either way. They're fans look at w W E, not 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:12.000 how their non fans look at it. I don't know 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.240 even what you were arguing there, like that these belts 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.879 mean something to their fans. They're not meaningless Brian, but 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:24.880 their fans Also if you said, here's this big story 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.960 with these two people. Guess what. Romans not gonna be here, 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.120 but Brock's going to be back for X show at 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.000 this place and he's going to be facing this person 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:37.280 with no title on the line. Would they care. They 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.080 wouldn't care. They don't care her. They wouldn't care if 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.760 Brock Lesser showed up at an out show. The fact 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:49.280 that there's no title, they wouldn't care. TV and not 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.680 having a championship. You're acting as if fans care about 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.000 the U S or I C titles. They care about 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:59.800 these titles. No, they don't, because the company that that 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.080 that they love so much that they stand up for, 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.160 they're just props in the game. So they just had 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.240 a pay per view where they initially teased we're gonna 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.440 whoever wins, they're gonna get all the belts. And then 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:15.400 that quietly Gett went away and there were no titles 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:19.080 on the line, and did anybody care. No, their fans 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.919 didn't care at all. So the fact that they're not 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.800 going to have a belt, who cares? It doesn't matter. 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:27.760 This isn't a W now a W one on tour. 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:31.320 And there were no Hangman page title defenses that would 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.239 mean something like w W doing it. It doesn't mean 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.720 a damn thing at all. So I didn't get that 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.440 now and hold on, no, because you brought this guy up. 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.440 I don't know, and I guess I'm not paying attention 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:48.480 in the same circles that Cody Rhodes. Cody Rhodes has 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:53.040 been a failure or has been used incorrectly or doesn't 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:57.760 hit in the same way that what I don't know, 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.040 I haven't I haven't paid it. I haven't paid attention, 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.440 I guess to the stupidest people in the dumbest, most 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:11.639 ignorant takes. You've got to be kidding me. Take he 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:18.320 couldn't beat Austin theory. So they're using Cody Rhodes incorrectly. Yes, Yes, 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.199 where have you been dude, where have you been obviously 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:28.080 with rational saying smart people. Well, listen when we when 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.000 we start running house shows this summer and there's no championships, 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.199 no no Roman Reigns championship match or anything like that 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.040 on the house shows or Brock and we will track 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.639 the attendance and we will see how it does with nothing. 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.960 I realized that they sell tickets on the brand. But like, 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:46.879 these titles actually do mean something to this audience. Awesome 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.199 theory may not mean much, but you know what if 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.840 they did Austin theory versus Kofi Kingston and Kofe Kingston 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.280 won that title, those fans would go crazy. They would 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:59.200 chant you deserve it. They would have a big celebration 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:04.240 in the in the out, Yes, that would happen. I'm 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:08.600 going to your fans. Can't wait for Natalia and And 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.480 and Shana as the new tag team champions on Friday. 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:15.240 I can't back in a moment with this Dynamite report. 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:30.800 Observer Live in the show right now? Were is here? 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:36.760