WEBVTT - Conversations About The Hate West Coast Hip Hop Gets 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.440 Sealer's podcast with your host. Now fuck that with your 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:16.280 loaw glasses alone. By that time, that was an accident. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.120 I didn't even mean to do it. It's like automatic 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.080 or something. I need to take it out every time 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:27.880 it's time to do it. Which talk about the damn countdown. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:33.200 I didn't know the countdown that time, and it still 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.160 popped up, but I know where I need to go 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:36.480 to take it out. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.720 You feel me, and I didn't take it out. I 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:39.560 didn't take it out. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.000 I thought you were regionally prejudiced. I at first, I 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:43.680 was like, oh, we're gonna sandbag a little bit. We're 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.320 gonna start this off at the three h five, and 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:46.840 you were like, now we're gonna keep it west coast 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.000 and started off at three ten. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:56.280 No, man, I had a crazy start to today. You 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:57.880 feel me. It's been crazy. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.880 It's been crazy, so I ain't really get to but 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:02.680 uh we don't time. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:03.520 We don't time. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:08.160 We're late, but my Martinez is uh still cold, so 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:08.600 we're good. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.800 I like that though. I like that as a masculine 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.800 response to the Martini. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.880 The martine is you know what's really bad is what's 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.160 the name of the guard on the Miami Heat. Fuck 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.640 the guard Wade, No, the one who's there now Butler. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.320 But oh Jim, Yeah, yeah, he is trying to steal 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.800 my brand and he's doing an advertisement of it. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.399 Whatever is he trying to steal? 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.600 Well, it's the you know, the the Miami Martini. The 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.800 Espresso Martine is all popular, but it's like, you know, 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:52.800 vodka Kalua espresso and then you know, ice shaking. I'm like, well, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.400 we're not going to do that. We're in Miami, so 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.400 I'm doing Cuban coffee with dark rum, you know, shaking whatever, 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.600 you know, sugar in the Cuban coffee. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:01.680 And what not. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.520 So he's doing that. He's making the espresso Martini with 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.400 Bacardi rum and calling it like the Martini Deocho instead 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:13.840 of Caye Deocho. Yeah, and he's got a whole ad campaign, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.840 and shit, it's gonna it's the second time that the 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.160 Martinez concept has been popularized under a different name and 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:20.919 stolen from me. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.600 I think I think you should actually make it. You 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.440 should really make that what men start calling the Martini 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:30.239 the Martinez. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:32.320 I like that for some reason. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.480 I like it a lot, you know, back in the day, 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.320 and this is another masculine thing. I was shaking tequila 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.840 and just having it, just shaking in port and I 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.680 would order as I want of Martinez, and they didn't 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.640 know what I was talking about. And then after doing 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.799 this for like two years, somebody was started doing the 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.160 same thing and brands with the tacchini, which sounds like bikini. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.560 It's extremely feminine sounding. I couldn't order it again, and 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:58.120 I lost my Martinez brand. So I re invigorated the 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.919 Martinez brand with this drink, and he's stealing it again. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.560 Maybe we need to put it in a can for you, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:08.959 for Martinez cal That could be all right, That could 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:09.480 be all right. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:14.200 No sellers live the lunch hour Monday, Wednesday and Friday 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.480 at twelve noon, not twelve ten noon twelve noon. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.640 Forgive us. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.080 It's my fault. Pete actually beat me here and still 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.519 I've been waiting on still. I thought Still had it 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.440 set up because I had been texting you back and 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.280 forth about setting it up. 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You go to 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.120 talk about the first one hundred days of the new presidency, 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:28.480 So hopefully we can tackle that. That's something that's been 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:32.839 on my mind. But what's bothering me is right, So 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.880 Kendrick albums. Kendrick drops a surprise album called gn X. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:41.120 Right, which is it's his best album by far, You 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:41.440 know what I mean. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.919 Shout out to everybody in the chat, too lifted, Mason, 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.599 Squishy my Dosh, my heart squishes my heart, Kelvin Sudis, Uh, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.839 what a Deucemack, I see you, Mason, name brand, Ms Bonham, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:55.359 Jean washed up with it? 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:55.679 Brody. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.120 Yet we end this time right here going crazy, charis 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:03.400 what's the deal? Uh, it's been interesting. I listened to 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:08.720 the album about four or five times. 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.440 I listened to the album about four or five times. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.520 I stand on the fact that this album is DoD's 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.120 best album by far. Too it's not even closed. This 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:27.599 is the time he connected everything together. Like you could 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.400 hear the confidence even the music video. Shout out to 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.960 the music video if you didn't see it. The music 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.960 video drop for Squabble Up. Squabble Up is probably gonna 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.880 be a top three album or top three songs in 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.680 the country when when the Billboard charts come out. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.839 It's that kind of really great song. I thought. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.840 I also saw a video with what's her name on? 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.880 The other song was one damn It Luther. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:50.640 Maybe. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.640 I'm sure he probably shot a lot of videos because 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:53.839 this is a really dope project. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.080 I've seen some girls reposting him in that in that 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.000 other chick running in a meadow or something like that. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:01.960 Yeah, maybe why not. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.880 I'm never in the right meadows at the right time. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.080 Sis is called she and she talited that that. You know, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.440 I got to hook you up with her, Pete. I 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.520 don't know if she really get down with the roses, 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.160 but I gotta hook you up with her. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.800 You know, I'm always down to get you know, completely 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.160 rejected and humiliated publicly. That's great. I've never done that. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.960 I think that's gonna happen, Pete. She might be your wife. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.280 I'll tell you this much. I'll make a really lucrative 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.120 bet that that is what happened that could take me 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:33.720 out of some debt. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.000 I might. I might have a bet. I think she 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.720 might give you some play. You might tell your world 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:43.000 of capital will be very happy to get their money back. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.400 So mind you. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:08:02.960 I listened to the Kendrick album. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:57.920 And it's great. It's by far a best album. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.480 Again, I agree with that classic is more about timing, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.360 so I don't really get into that, but I'm talking 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.920 about just listening to the records, listening to the music, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.240 listening to the way the album is constructed. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.240 Like I got a chance to listen to it more. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.160 I knew it off the first listen because I've been 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.320 studying music for so long that I can hear what's 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.880 going on. So I know when it's you know when 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.600 it got a feel. And that record is incredible, you 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.280 know what I mean? Again, The squadb Love video comes 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.960 out today, so after you hop off this live, make 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.000 sure you go check out that squab Love video. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:30.240 Saturday. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.240 My partner Ali. Shout out to the Saint Lunatic. Shout 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.880 out to Nelly, My love from the lou Shout out 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.719 to Murph who put me on the album one of 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.640 the first albums I ever been on that wasn't like 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.079 that was a platinum artist from somebody else. Shout out 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.679 to Ali, who's been like a great voice of hip 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.640 hop and understanding for me to get a better understanding 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.120 with somebody that has been instrumental in another movement. Them dudes, 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.040 you know, single handedly put on Saint Louis, you know 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.679 what I mean. So I really love my boys from 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.720 the Ticks, man, I don't care what they got going 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.080 on with each other. I love all of them dudes, 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:06.600 you know what I mean. And I'm grateful for what 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.079 they were able to do for me growing up and 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.679 having some kind of understanding about Saint Louis. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:14.920 Oh, they got to get. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.840 Ali on here, man, I didn't realize that was him. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.360 I started seeing him like on social media and should 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.400 and I leave any old kind of name, you know, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.960 And it's kind of like the kind of name that 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.720 I would figure just for no reason at all, that 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.480 like a very contemplative thinkers type of guy's name, a 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.080 lot a lot of like the black muscle people, very 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.040 thinker oriented types. And I didn't realize for at first 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.839 until like the fourth or fifth time I saw that 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.000 that was that guy, I'm like, oh, we gotta get this. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.560 This guy's great because I might. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.040 Was this spring anyway, these sharp I hate when him 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:47.760 and I hate when he talked about Nelly, and I 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.439 hate when Nelly talking about I don't like that. But again, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.400 that's not my business, you know, because I know Nelly 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.319 is my motherfucking low, you know what I'm saying. And 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.280 I love Ali too, like I love them for helping 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.800 each other. I love Ali teaching him, so I always 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.800 stay down no matter what. Like I'm a tick, I'm 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.520 not involved in none of y'all falling out. I love 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.440 the ticks, nigga. That's how I request, go ahead. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:15.599 Can we do a show directly across the street, directly 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:20.000 across the street from Saint Louis Cardinals Stadium. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:20.960 Yeah, we can do that. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.560 It's a great barbecue joint called Salt and Smoke, and 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.679 you can sit there eating ribs and you can see 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.080 the whole stadium like this through the window. It's a 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.560 phenomenal venue. I would love to do that. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:32.839 Let's do it, yea, let's do it. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.839 Yeah, Like the third of January, I got no patience, Okay, boy, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:39.800 it's cold there. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:40.600 I got patients. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:41.439 It's cold. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.840 Yeah, So anyway, shout out to Lee's. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.120 He called me and he had a good brother. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.640 I forgot Will's last night, but we'll work at He 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.839 did something with one O six of Park a couple people, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.480 and you could tell talking to him. He's a really 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.800 sharp dude on hip hop. And obviously he saw my tweets. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.560 Obviously I've been tweeting up a storm, like I'm so 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.360 proud of Doc, you know what I mean. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.880 My brother is really on another. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:10.920 Level, and I just totally enjoy you know, him at 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.440 the pinnacle of his powers, and I love how he's 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.200 using his power, Like I love what he's doing with 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.760 his power. Again, I told y'all Friday, I think it 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.760 took Doc becoming a big homie for him to truly 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.760 hit his pinnacle peak. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.360 Maybe even a parent, you know what I mean. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.000 It probably has something to do with him being a 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.280 parent too, And I'm just so impressed, you know what 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.880 I mean. It's like, honestly, it's like hearing my favorite 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.240 guys that I grew up listening to, and that's really 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.760 hard because I'm an adult now. So I'm just uber 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.400 impressed cause like I am fired up. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.160 You what kind of reminds me of go ahead, Like 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.280 when you would see like a young basketball player, like 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.920 say like it rather like Tracy McGrady. He comes in 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.440 and it's like this guy's it, and it kind of 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.680 takes a couple of years, and you know, it's kind 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.720 of under the Vince shadow. You're nineteen years old, eighteen 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.160 years old getting into the league, tall, kind of gangling, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.440 and then all of a sudden. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.719 This fucking guy holy. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.280 Shit, except he been on top of the game since 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.959 he started, Like he he sure the first day he 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.280 was a plan to Mac, you know, I mean not 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.240 the first day, but like the first album, I think 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:18.760 he did, like. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.880 But like realizing particular, this is what we knew it 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.480 was there, and now it's here. 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.640 And now you see it on the court, like it 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:28.680 took Upbron a few years. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.920 I'mber seeing Lebron playing high school at a poly pavilion. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.880 I'm like, oh boy, it was it when he started, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.559 but after a few years it was really it. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:44.719 So will cost me with Leezy and Leezy puts him 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.360 on the joint and he saw my tweets. I've been 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.079 tweeting up a storm and he said, man, you really 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.720 think this is Kendrick's best album, And I'm like, yeah, 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.320 this is Kendrick's best album by far. He's like, man, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.040 are you saying that because it's sound like the West 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.360 Coast and I'm not. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.720 Talk to steal in advance. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.880 Well and and that and that kind of started me 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.560 into like a real deep conversation with him about hip hop, right, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.920 explaining hip hop is all about street urban culture, you know, 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.319 personified through these arts and elements. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.320 I had to really start from the beginning and put 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.000 it back together. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.480 From Sylvia Robinson and sugar Hill, from Larry Smith and 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:30.960 Houdini to Marli Moore. 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:32.880 I had to put understand this. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.480 No Ali got it, a Lea get it. That's one 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.880 person who don't have no problem understeady. He know what 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:40.880 has to be done. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.200 If they didn't have such a distinct sound they were, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.360 then they're dirty from Montgomery, Alabama. They're just two. There's 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.240 just some guys rapping facts. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.680 So you know again, I start to recreate hip hop 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.040 for him. I'm like, Yo, this is hip hop. I 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:00.240 started to recreate hip hop for him, right, I'm like, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:06.600 the records are supposed to sound culturally like correct, now, 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.520 the West doesn't just root itself in front. But there's 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.080 a pace of life, there's a rhythm of light, like 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.560 BPM stands for beats permitted, heart beats permitted. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.120 Right, that's a cool question. And I don't mean to 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.800 call the guy out. It has nothing to do with him, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.960 but I felt like there was some meat left on 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:29.160 the bone with a guy like Jalla, I didn't get 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.520 such a great this is DC has a vibrant urban 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.760 culture and Maryland the whole d MV it really really does. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.080 I didn't really feel like I got as much of 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.360 that as I would have wanted. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:41.920 Out of LA. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.880 There was some of it to a degree, you know, undeniably, 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.520 but I thought there was room there for it to 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.000 hit the way Nelly hit out of Saint Louis and 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.120 go wow, I could taste of sauce on this, I 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.880 could tear. I gotta get a napkin. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:59.680 But but if again in that same conversation, and yes, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.240 that that's why I think Wila is who's a tremendous 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.480 record maker, while one of the most record makers I 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.360 ever saw in hip hop with my own eyes for. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.320 Sure, not saying anything otherwise. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.640 No, No, I do think because there is a level 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.760 of pasteurized culture that's happening in hip hop over the 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:22.680 last fifteen years. You don't have monumental artists to the 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.800 same statue of a phenomenon like a. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.600 Dog or a whole or a wang. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:33.680 You don't have that phenomenon because really it's just music now. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.800 And to what extent. Like you know, a lot of 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.280 the guys that you mentioned, they came in and they 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.400 had that landmark producer with them, that had that had 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.080 a sound with them that was the first off that 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.000 city he didn't really have that. Meek Mill and Philly 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.840 didn't really have. They were so talented that a giant, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:56.120 you know, hip hop conglomerate of swords. I need that. 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.200 And now you're rapping on their sound a. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.520 Little bit to a degree, Okay, shout out to Marcel 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.560 Wailea is a Nigerian immigrant. He isn't steep in DC 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.360 culture like a American. That makes sense fair, Oh yeah, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:10.120 And now I. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.600 Was always surprised that like Baltimore didn't have a guy 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.880 pop off with its own sound and that whole like that. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.280 That's a that's an epicenter that I thought really would 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.560 have like just done it. You know, by now. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.440 Sure, shout out off. That's because Wiler is from outskirts. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:29.240 Maybe so, but even the outskirts of d C would 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.280 be bathed in DC culture. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.520 Sugar Freak from Pomona. I mean, he's from Compton, but 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:36.280 he's from Pomona. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.240 Yeah, but Pomona's hell of season. Weirdly, like you know, 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:41.040 I know. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.480 Far out the outskirts of DC, I. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:48.080 Know you no, I know, Pomona feels like it is 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:48.720 far from LA. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:49.360 That is true. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.160 Pomona is a good thirty five minute drive from Pomona, 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:57.280 but Pomona is its own cultural epicenter of Los Angeles. 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:57.520 Shit. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.840 Shut up in the garfy track, man, they do it. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:04.200 No, no, no, pete like crazy like them niggas. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.840 My best friend from college is from from the dirt 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.560 and Pomona. I spend so much time there, so much time. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.320 I was there every weekend for years. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:11.760 Yeah. 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.360 So Pomona is one of those places that, even though 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.040 it's not close to the center of Los Angeles, it 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.080 is fucking Hella West. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.760 It is Hella like them niggas. Is some shit. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.520 But okay, let me get back to it. So he 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.840 was telling me this, and I noticed he said that, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:31.879 and I said dog, Like imagine saying is four hundred 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:37.840 degrees to New Orleans or if the Diary is to Houston, 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.280 or is Blueprint one to New York? 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:42.879 Like what the fuck? 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.440 What is it about the West Coast that things can 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.800 become too West Coast? Why is that a true thing? 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:55.000 Like we excect like we would never tell Chief Keith 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.960 his music is too drill. It's too drill. I don't 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.119 know about this. You know the reason y'all think it 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.679 is a classic in Chicago because it's so drilled and 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.119 I just didn't get it, and it it made me 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.760 start to really like we all say this, we all 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.120 just as artists, that there is this weird there's this 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:19.760 weird there's this weird thing about West Coast acts, right 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.000 whereas like you could be too West Coast, Like I've 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.119 heard people say that, but you don't say that about future. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:30.520 Future music sound like fucking Atlanta, like Georgia, Like that 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.240 ship is Hella Georgia. I've never heard a nigga be like, 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.160 you know what that new Future album is to Atlanta. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:42.879 It's just in Atlanta, That's what I'm saying. But I. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.480 Say Future is to Atlanta is to Atlanta. This is 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:50.119 way to Atlanta. I don't want to hear this. 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.960 Listen to the Atlanta Slangy's doing and the beach it's 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:53.720 to Atlanta. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.440 What question, Like what is I mean? Because his sound 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.639 he does sound very dungeony. But Atlanta's had you know, 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.879 they had that, they had, They've had a lot of 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.240 different kind of types of sounds come out of Atlanta. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:07.360 Over the years. 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:08.760 I think something that has to do with the duration 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:13.240 of the fact that LA's sound is has been going 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.200 on for a very long time. Like like like drill 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.240 like you like you, and I don't hear it as 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.119 so much as you hear it. I'm a layman, but 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.399 like say, drill to do or die, it doesn't sound 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.960 the same so much to me. I understand, like the 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.640 tempos and stuff might be the same, but it does 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.639 sound not It doesn't sound like it's a continuation so 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.399 directly from from that type of type of vibe. But 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:36.920 I you know, again, I'm a layman's ear. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:38.840 Well I mean. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.080 Again, man the same way like Rick doesn't sound like 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:49.639 Luther in that sense, you know what I mean? It 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.080 sounds very Miami cool and dre It sounds crazy Miami. 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:57.400 But so this is the problem with Luke right, specifically 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.720 Luke about Rick Ross and Luke Right. Okay, so Luke right, 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:06.080 Luke is his producer is a California guy, right, that 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.919 created a Miami based sound that's a party sound versus 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.320