1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Good morning. It's Friday, the thirteenth of October in London. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak youurate podcast. I'm Stephen Carroll. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Coming up today a looming invasion. The Israeli army tells 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: one point one million civilians and UN staff to leave 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: northern Gaza. Plus in other news, we'll have the latest 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: on the growing political turmoil in the United States, where 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Steves Galise has walked away from his brief bid to 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: be House Speaker, and the British billionaire Jim Ratcliffe closes 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: in on a major investment in Manchester, United Let's start 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: with a roundup of our top stories. The Israeli army 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: has told the United Nations and more than a million 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: civilians to leave northern Gaza in the next twenty four hours, 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: in a sign that a ground invasion may now be imminent. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Israel's military is positioned around three hundred thousand personnel outside 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: the Palestinian territory and struck hundreds of targets in retaliation 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: for the Hamas attacks on Israel that killed at least 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: one thousand, two hundred people. Health authorities in Gaza say 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: airstrikes have killed at least thirteen hundred and wounded. Thousands more. 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: Bushra and her husband were caught up in one of 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: the strikes. A missile hit in the square and there 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: was rubble hitting us as we were walking. There was 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: glass metal. 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: It was like doomsday. 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Those comments come as Rishie Sunak has urged his Israeli 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: counterpart to protect ordinary Palestinians amid efforts continuing to drive 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: the Hamask group out of Gaza. In a phone call 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: last night, the British Prime Minister urged Benjaminettan Yahoo to 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: allow humanitarian aid into the city. The US Secretary of 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: State Anthony Blinkn is traveling to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: other allied countries in the Middle East as part of 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: American efforts to keep the Israel Hamas conflicts from spreading further. 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: During his visit to Israel, Blincoln met survivors of Hamas's 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: attack on the country. 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: Yes, we lost a lot of our friends, close friends, 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: and lots of family members. There are a lot of 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: people people that we know that are kidnapped and now 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: and Gaza, and we went through horror. Really, I'm just like, 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm twenty four and I never imagined something like this 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: would happen. Ever in a dance and a music festival. 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: We celebrate in love and we danced and it was amazing. 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: Then the rockets started and gunshots everywhere. We managed to escape, 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: but there are a lot of friends that didn't know 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: you want to bring them. Thank you so much. Here 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: I'm speaking to me, it means a lot. 45 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Speaking in Tel Aviv, after meeting relatives of those kidnapped 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: or killed by Hamas, Blinken had this message for the country. 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: The message that I bring to Israel is this, you 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: may be strong enough on your own to defend yourself, 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 4: but as long as America exists, you will never ever 50 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: have to. 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 5: We will always be there by your side. 52 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Lincon's trip to Israel comes as the US reached an 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: informal understanding with Katar to hold off distributing six billion 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: dollars in oil revenue that Iran was allowed to access 55 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: under a prisoner exchange deal. The decision comes as the 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Biden administration continues to investigate Tehran's possible involvement in last 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: weekend's Hamas attack. European Union regulators have opened an inquiry 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: into Elon Musk's x over the handling of possibly illegal 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: content related to the war between Israel and Hamas. The 60 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: European Commission has sent the social network a formal request 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: for details of its handling of potential terrorist or violent 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: content on the platform. X formerly known as Twitter, has 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: one week to respond and could be fined if it 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: provides the EU with inaccurate or incomplete information. Thursday was 65 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: the worst day since March twenty twenty for US government 66 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: bonds after hotter than expected inflation data and weak demand 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: for Treasury's auction fueled the surge in thirty years yields. 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Thursday's route began after data showed CPI rowse by three 69 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: point seven percent year on year in September. The news 70 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: comes as Boston Fed presidencies and Collins said the recent 71 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: jump in treasury eels could lessen the need for further 72 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: hikes if it lasts. 73 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 5: The rise in long term meals implies some tightening of 74 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 5: financial conditions, and if it persists, it likely reduces the 75 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 5: need for further monetary policy tightening in the near term. 76 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 5: This reinforces my view that we're very near and perhaps 77 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 5: at the peak federal funds rate for this tightening cycle. 78 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Collins, who does not vote on monetary policy, this year 79 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: is the latest in a series of policymakers to signal 80 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: the possibility that higher long term yields may replace more 81 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: hikes from the US Central Bank. The Bank of England 82 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: chief economist Hugh pill says interest rate decisions are becoming 83 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: quote finally balanced. The BOE's capt rates unchanged at five 84 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: and a quarter percent last month, amid signs inflation is 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: coming under control. However, policymakers split over decision and investors 86 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: remain undecided over whether the fastest tightening cycle since the 87 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties has now come to an end. The outlook 88 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: for rates may become clearer next week, when official figures 89 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: on inflation and the labor market are due to be released. 90 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: And in the United States, Steve Scalise has abandoned his 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: short lived campaign to become the House Speaker following days 92 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: of contentious meetings with fellow Republicans. Speaking to reporters, Scalee 93 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: said it wasn't going to happen today or tomorrow. 94 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: Our conference still has to come together and is not there. 95 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: There are still some people that have their own agendas, 96 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: and that was very clear. We have to have everybody 97 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: put their agendas on the side and focus on what 98 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: this country needs. This country is counting. 99 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: On us to come back together. 100 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 4: This House of Representatives needs a speaker, and we need 101 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: to open up the House again. But clearly not every 102 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: there and there's still schisms. 103 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: That have to get resolved. 104 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: Scalese's decision to withdraw has led several senior House Republicans 105 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: to express doubt that any member of their party could 106 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: get enough support to claim the speaker's gavel without getting 107 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: some help from Democrats. Republicans plan to meet again on 108 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: Friday morning to discuss their next steps, and Bloomberg understands 109 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: at the billionaire Jim Radcliffe is emerging as the front 110 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: runner to invest in Manchester United. The Inniess chairman may 111 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: end up with an initial stake of roughly twenty five 112 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: percent of the football giant in a deal that could 113 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: value the club at more than five billion pounds. Matiti 114 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: United's board is set to discuss the latest proposal as 115 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: soon as in the next few days. Well, let's get 116 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: more now on the latest in the Middle East this morning, 117 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: Israel has told the United Nations to move its staff 118 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: from northern Gaza and notify Palestinians in the area to 119 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: leave an indication that a ground operation could be imminent. 120 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: The area covered by the warning is home to more 121 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: than one point one million Palestinians. For the latest were 122 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: joined by our head of Middle Eastern North Africa, Stuart Livingstone, 123 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Walla Stewart, Good morning. What more can you tell us 124 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: about this warning from the Israeli military and what it 125 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: means for people in Gaza? 126 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning. So, I mean, I suppose the first 127 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 6: thing to say is that this area is one of 128 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 6: the most densely populated in the world, and so the 129 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 6: notion that you can relocate over a million people in 130 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: twenty four hours is I think, as the UN has said, 131 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 6: pretty much impossible. I mean, for one thing, there's the 132 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 6: logistics of moving that many people. For the second thing, 133 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 6: you know, where exactly do you put them when everywhere 134 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 6: else in gazas are already much pretty full up, you know, 135 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 6: there is not extensive empty housing. On top of that, 136 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 6: of course, there's been this blockade around the area for 137 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 6: some days, and we know that the solitary power plant 138 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 6: is off. We still have some generators running, but the 139 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 6: fuel will run out, and obviously food and meds are 140 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 6: an increasingly short supply, so it is to move the 141 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 6: civilian population out, as you say, in anticipation of some 142 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 6: sort of ground war. But again referring back to the 143 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 6: UN statement, it is going to be a very difficult 144 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 6: situation there, I suspect in the next twenty four hours. 145 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 6: But again it is pointing as I think I've said 146 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: the last couple of days towards this feels to be 147 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 6: an inevitable ground war. We've got the three hundred thousand 148 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 6: reserves called up, We've got the forward base being built. 149 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 6: Things are escalating. 150 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Egypt's president has said that Gazans must stay steadfast 151 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: and remain on their land, but Egypt is also the 152 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: only option for Palestinians trying to leave Gaza. High significant 153 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: with the commis that we heard from the Egyptian president. 154 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 6: Well, I think we're sort of a couple of days 155 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 6: ago we had a briefing from the White House in 156 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 6: which they said they were in talks with Israel An 157 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 6: Egypt to see if there was some way in which 158 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 6: you could move a certain number of people out. That 159 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 6: doesn't indeed appear not to have really got anywhere. I 160 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 6: suppose part of the issue from Egypt's point of view, 161 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 6: as if they move across the border. Where exactly does 162 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 6: Egypt put them either, You know, it doesn't necessarily have 163 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 6: the facilities for that many people. So to some extent, 164 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 6: it does feel like there aren't that many options. I mean, 165 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 6: there are some smaller options. We know that there are. 166 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 6: There's some sort of planning underway to see if there's 167 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 6: a possibility to get certain citizens out of the Gaza strips, So, 168 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 6: for instance, the US is thinking about that, but again, 169 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 6: the options are very very limited because the size of it, 170 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 6: because it's so density population, because there are so few options. 171 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: After the US Secretary of State Anti Blincoln's visit to Israel, 172 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: we're now expecting the Defense Secretary to go there as well. 173 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: This as we have this political wrangling underway in Washington 174 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: overapproving more spending on military aid for Israel. How does 175 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: that complicate the US support for its ally, well. 176 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 6: I mean sort of. Our big takeaway from that is 177 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 6: that what it appears to be is more an attempt 178 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: now or at this stage, to stop this spreading more widely, so, 179 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 6: rather than any notion that they can go in and 180 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 6: fix the immediate problem that is the escalation around Gaza, 181 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 6: and we suspect increasingly into Gaza. It's more about making 182 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 6: sure as best they can that other nations don't join in. Now. 183 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 6: They're obviously limitations, so that I mean, the one that 184 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 6: we are obviously keeping a very careful eye on is 185 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 6: to the north. We have has Bulla in southern Lobonon 186 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 6: we know are very well armed, very well organized, and 187 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 6: do have form when it comes to attacking Israel. We 188 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 6: have had a few relatively low level attacks in the 189 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 6: last several days, but obviously nothing on the scale that 190 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: might be possible. And again similarly, not just on the 191 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 6: diplomatic side, but also on the military side, we've had 192 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 6: deployments into the eastern Mediterranean from the US that will 193 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 6: continue and build up, and that's really intended to be 194 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 6: a to terence in the sense that if you have 195 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 6: a big navy sitting there, it's going to be much 196 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 6: harder for anyone as to join in the highting. Whether 197 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 6: it's a of course, is a different matter and remains 198 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 6: to be seen. 199 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: We've also had this news that the US and KAT 200 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: are to hold off on distributing six billion dollars worth 201 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: of funds to Iran. How significant is is that development? 202 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think it's to some extent. It's 203 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 6: everyone is trying to figure out to what extent Iran 204 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 6: knew about this or participated in the original attack on 205 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 6: Saturday morning. I should stress there is no evidence that 206 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 6: has been presented so far that they actively knew about 207 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 6: or actively participated. But I think what everyone would acknowledge 208 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 6: is that Iran has been a backer of her mass 209 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 6: for many many years, both financially militarily, and therefore there 210 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 6: is a distinction to be drawn between being involved in 211 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 6: HAMAS and supporting Hamas, but being actively involved in the 212 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 6: planning and execution of the atrocities that we saw on 213 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 6: Saturday morning. 214 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: Okay Stewart Livingston Wallace are head of Middleast and North Africa. 215 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us with the latest 216 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: on the developments in the Middle East. We're going to 217 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: turn out to news around America's largest banks. Third quarter 218 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: earning season kicks off today. JP Morgan's City Group in 219 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: Wells Farga reporting in just a few hours time. We're 220 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: expecting the numbers from Bank of America, Goldman Sackson, Morgan 221 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: Stanley early next week. We have Bloomberg's Charlie Wells and 222 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: Studio to look ahead to those earnings reports. Charlie, good 223 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: morning to you. What are analysts looking out for today? 224 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: Well, Stephen, there's going to be an intense interest on 225 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: interest rate snow pun intended and you know, especially how 226 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: that is trickling over into net interest income for these 227 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: large banks. Now, that has been such a positive story 228 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: for America's largest banks. They have been able to charge 229 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: more for their lending than they've had to pay out 230 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 2: to depositors. But what we are seeing is some pressure 231 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: here as rates remain higher for longer. We're seeing some 232 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: pressure on consumer deposits as consumers have more options. I'm 233 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: thinking money market funds and CDs, but also some you know, 234 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: some lending softness as well, So that's one key issue 235 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: I think. Also looking at investment banking revenue, revenue from 236 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Trading City Group is the only large bank expected to 237 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: post an increase there. So it's not going to be 238 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: an optimistic earning season. I would say early days, but 239 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: it's tough, okay, So who's expected then to come out ahead? 240 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: On who are the laggards in this group? Really striking? 241 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: I think JP Morgan in particular has in this year 242 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: of banking crises, in this year of you know, bond 243 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: market surprises of high interest rates. JP Morgan has stood 244 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: out for overperforming. We see that in their share price. 245 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: We're seeing that in expectations for their you know, earnings 246 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 2: per share expected in the third quarter to be up 247 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: twenty six percent. When you look at the other banks, 248 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: expectations are lower. So for Wells Fargo, which is reporting 249 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: later today an estimate of down four percent for earnings 250 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 2: per share, and then City Group also reporting in just 251 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: a few hours down eighteen percent. So you compare eighteen 252 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: percent earnings per share estimates to an increase of twenty 253 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: six percent for JP Morgan. 254 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Huge divergence there, Yeah, sure, quite arranged those. On the 255 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: investment banking side of things, there has been an optic 256 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: in IPO activity recently from a pretty morribun start, it 257 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: has to be said, is not going to turn the 258 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: dial for any of the megabanks. 259 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's been some kind of big name IPOs 260 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: which might make people think, all right, so it's deal 261 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: making back, is underwriting back. And look, I think when 262 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: you look at Instacart, we were again talking about that 263 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: one for years, looking forward to that as a potential 264 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: you know, turning point in deal making. And while equities 265 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: underwriting is expected to boost some of the earnings for 266 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: these banks. M and A activity has still been very, 267 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: very muted, and so I think it's not going to 268 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: be a pretty picture yet again in this earning season, 269 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: when we've been looking forward so long for a change 270 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: in that story. 271 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: What's the bigger picture here for the US and global economy. 272 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: I think it's really going to be a focus on 273 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: the US consumer. I think at a time when you know, 274 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: we're wondering if there can be a soft landing, there 275 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: is even more volatility in the air now given the 276 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: geopolitical situation, I think these reports may give indication of 277 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: where that US consumer is. You know, some bank CEOs 278 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: have been talking about potential credit worthiness of some of 279 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: their kind of lower credit store credit score consumers, potentially 280 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: you know, not being able to pay back some of 281 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: the loans, and we see that in some of the numbers. 282 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: So according to some Bloomberg data, there is an estimate 283 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: that these four large banks have set aside five point 284 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: three billion dollars for net charge offs. So that's money 285 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: that they're expecting not to get back from the consumer. 286 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Day Break Europe. 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