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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December ninth, twenty nineteen. It is time

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Speaker 1: donks for Morning Combat. Welcome everyone. My name is Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm host of this program alongside my trustee co host

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Speaker 1: from CBS Sports, among other places, the inimitable Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Brian, we had a great weekend to yet you and

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Speaker 2: I hung out. It was like a little Broman said,

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's still gross, that's so gross. Yeah, but everybody

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Speaker 3: emails me, by the way, saying you when do you?

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Speaker 2: Brian appreciate all our Morning Combat listeners.

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Speaker 3: Moving on over to the showtime countdown live undercard stream

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Speaker 3: ahead of Charlo Hogan this weekend, a lot of fun

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Speaker 3: a loaded weekend to recap this week, how about looking

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Speaker 1: The Thanksgiving weeks is over and now we're really kicking

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Speaker 3: Real quick, I see you wearing a Cannibal Corpse T

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Speaker 3: Chefchenko sisters, and again I already knew the update already

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Speaker 3: saw it right, Love you though. Now people are all

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Speaker 3: on my DM sending me hey hey BC. Just so

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Speaker 3: you know, here's what the lead singer of Cannibal Corpse

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Speaker 2: Watch this YouTube video and what did you see?

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Speaker 3: Here's what this lead guitarist just got put in jail for.

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Speaker 3: I do not want anything to do with your people.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well the lead guitarist did to get put

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Speaker 3: in jail, HILLO. He has mental problems, quite literally, mental problems.

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Speaker 1: The lead singer Corpse Grinder actually on his free time

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Speaker 1: give to charity and poor kids. So a real asshole

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Speaker 1: of that guy. Huh yeah right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Those are your kind. By the way, how about that?

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Speaker 2: How about this?

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Speaker 4: We have to move along. What is the reference?

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Speaker 3: Are we the mega powers here of combat audio? I'm

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Speaker 3: a little more savage, you're a little more hogan. You know,

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Speaker 3: racist going to sleep.

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Speaker 2: You're the guy begging Bubba the loves Bun's wife. You're

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Speaker 2: the guy begging Bubba.

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Speaker 3: The loves Bun the best tag team of pro wrestling history. Okay,

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Speaker 3: check the archives. You're the one suing Gawker, not me. Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, with that in mind, ready to get going.

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Speaker 3: Let's get going, all right, First things first, it was

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Speaker 3: not the biggest event of the weekend, which we will

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Speaker 3: was UFC DC in my hometown, JayR Zeno rosenstrike or

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Speaker 3: rosenstroke I repronounced it beats Alistair Overeim well via last

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Speaker 1: Let's start here. Actually will pitch to you first ones,

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Speaker 1: so I'll be very curious to get your opinion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you pitch, I'll catch Let's do this. Okay, you always

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Speaker 2: Is it good news or bad news with you? I

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's a weird ending to

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Speaker 3: the sense that we booked this fight to find out answers.

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Speaker 3: I know it was last minute replacement. Shout out to

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Speaker 3: but you want to find out if JayR Rosenstrick or

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Speaker 3: Stroke or Strudell, however you're going with, there is for real.

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Speaker 3: This was the perfect test against a veteran who you're

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Speaker 3: in ten seconds. You're gonna have to work. He had

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Speaker 3: mma between love and hate, but also between winning and losing.

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Speaker 3: Where the narrative out of this fight should have been

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Speaker 3: go back and look at that stoppage. Yes, wielded insane power.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to him, got it done with no time left,

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Speaker 3: overhim failing in gassing a little bit in the closing seconds.

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Speaker 3: But if he doesn't do that walk off like he

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Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna come out of here being like

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Speaker 3: fantastic performance.

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Speaker 2: This guy is the future.

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Speaker 3: What I love to see him bang against other sluggers

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Speaker 3: like a like an Angano, of course, but it was

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Speaker 4: Look, hold on, let's talk about that. Number one. This

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Speaker 4: is his tenth UFC FI tenth MMA fight for Crina.

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Speaker 1: I think UFC fight all of them, by the way,

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Speaker 4: That makes him warm to an extent. It's not probably adequate.

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Speaker 4: Number one.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to be forgiving that he is not

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Speaker 4: Overheim is not going.

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Speaker 1: To fight the way Arlovski did or Junior Albini did

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Speaker 4: This was also his most difficult opponent, and then we

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Speaker 3: We needed to see him against a guy who wasn't

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Speaker 1: And I agree the fight was kind of boring. It

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Speaker 1: But the reality is, dude, there if there is one

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Speaker 1: not happy that overheam is not going to get probably

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Speaker 2: Still getting some fresh blood in there.

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Speaker 4: Is not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: And by the way Rosenstrike might fight and gone to

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Speaker 1: little bit later. Fourth, I would say, dude, he literally

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Speaker 1: disfigured Overream's face. Cutting that be serious for a moment.

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Speaker 1: Is that one of the worst cuts you've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: It was brutal.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just the Robbie Lawler lip line. It went

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Speaker 1: You could see the top of his gums, and you

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Speaker 3: I don't want you to get caught in thinking I've

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Speaker 3: misdirected hostilities. I love the guy's long term future. I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying he was that close.

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Speaker 4: I understand.

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Speaker 3: I mean walking off after you knock a guy down

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Speaker 3: And I just think even with the win, and even

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Speaker 3: get some blood in there, I still think this is

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Speaker 3: more of a loss, a moral loss has there ever

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Speaker 1: Mind, Okay, fine again, it was as inspiring as a

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Speaker 4: No, it certainly was not.

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Speaker 1: But as I articulated, there are reasons to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit forgiving and asked for the stoppage. I think

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Speaker 1: both sides have a case here. You're right he should

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Speaker 1: a guy was cut. I'm not saying it was a

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Speaker 1: bad stoppage. I'm saying I think it's worth questioning about

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Speaker 2: So Oveream pops up.

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Speaker 1: But then over him actually doesn't direct himself towards rosenstruck.

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Speaker 1: He actually walks a different direction. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: if you actually look at the clock, it was right

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Speaker 1: at the end. So there's a lot of ways that

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Speaker 1: I don't want to call him. I want to be

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Speaker 1: very respectful. He is not fragile, but at this late

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Speaker 1: still kind of tells me it's time for some rejuvenation.

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Speaker 3: It was a strong performance top to bottom from over

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Speaker 4: He's not done. He's not done.

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Speaker 3: That's what he had to do against a young guy

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Speaker 3: and kind of expose him.

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Speaker 2: I thought he felt.

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Speaker 1: Well, now that takes us to the co main event

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Speaker 1: very quickly. What do you want to say about that?

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Speaker 1: That was just this weird? How many times did he

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Speaker 2: So all in all, I would advise her to move up.

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Speaker 3: If I was asked.

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Speaker 2: Your people? By the way, No they're not.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, because I was there in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: But the point being is, folks don't realize this is

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Speaker 1: don't like MMA. Okay, it's either it's a boxing town,

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 1: They don't give a shit about MMA, crackdown or not

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Speaker 1: baryon Day's Mayor for life. Dude, those were Arlington Broughs

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Speaker 3: They loved they loved Bigkis. You got to give him

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Speaker 1: They were so embarrassing. I was so embarrassed for that crowd,

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Speaker 2: That pisses you off.

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Speaker 1: The dude, It's like, what, who are these low level

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Speaker 3: Did they wear their affliction T shirt on the way there.

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Speaker 4: I don't give them f what you do, Just please

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Speaker 2: To so angry so I who are these.

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Speaker 1: Romulus and remiss fucos that wherever they go they decide

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Speaker 3: Dude, you pay the ticket. You can take your shirt

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Speaker 4: To don't enable losers ever.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm more of the belief that if I want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do have the right. You're also a fuckhead

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Speaker 3: In the corner, you just hate pro wrestling, just give in,

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Speaker 3: all right?

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Speaker 2: Who those pro wrestling fans are MMA fans?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's an extension of pro wrestling. It's a

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the reason why don't want But okay, let's

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Speaker 1: move on to the second topic at hand. If we can,

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Speaker 1: the biggest fight of the weekend, and it was big

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Speaker 2: With with the with Andy Rhees doing he was doing.

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Speaker 1: With Anthony Joshua winning back all of his titles against

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Speaker 1: In the end, the story was very obvious. Anthony Joshua

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Speaker 2: Everything I said last week, I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: Honest, I certainly do. I'll go to you first on this.

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Speaker 1: The biggest takeaway from the fight.

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Speaker 3: Is what I mean, The biggest takeaway is AJ put

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Speaker 2: This guy ran, this guy was too safe.

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Speaker 3: Look to some elements, that kind of criticism is partially correct,

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Speaker 3: Could this global superstar put it back on and get

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Speaker 2: He has regained control of the heavyweight division.

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Speaker 3: He's still the a player in a crowded field of

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Speaker 3: you still have that right. And he, just by the way,

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Speaker 3: I don't really know now if Aj could still be

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Speaker 2: Ruiz was limited to one punch at a time.

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Speaker 3: He certainly didn't have the pace in the aggressiveness that

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Speaker 3: months and I didn't think it would affect me, but

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Speaker 3: and to a certain degree it's tainted by what Ruiz

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Speaker 3: Get on Ruiz for not getting in there and making

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Speaker 1: So my takeaway from it was certainly I agree with

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Speaker 1: over itself so you're used to each stage before the

440
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Speaker 1: next stage comes. Why do people who win the lottery

441
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Speaker 1: so often end up spending all of their money or broke,

442
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Speaker 1: or people who go right from high school to the

443
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,760
Speaker 1: NBA who don't have good counseling. Sometimes you know a

444
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,760
Speaker 1: Kwame Brown blows through all their money.

445
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Speaker 2: Robert Swift trash that house in Seattle.

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the point being is you don't know how

447
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Speaker 1: to handle success. And it was like he was some

448
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Speaker 1: scrub again. He had a pretty, I think, you know,

449
00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,439
Speaker 1: relatively decorated background in boxing prior to this, but he

450
00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,719
Speaker 1: didn't have the adulation, he didn't have all the visibility,

451
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,919
Speaker 1: and once he did, he simply didn't know.

452
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Speaker 4: Honestly, he didn't know what it meant.

453
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Speaker 1: He didn't really know what to do with it, which

454
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Speaker 1: is why he said he parted a little bit because probably.

455
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Speaker 2: Thought it was gonna a little bit. I mean, you

456
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Speaker 2: now go back and see the evidence that we got.

457
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that YouTube series Dank

458
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Speaker 3: City that followed him around and did that fourth part thing,

459
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Speaker 3: and all he's doing in there is and chicken wings

460
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Speaker 3: and pizza, and then we're like, well, was that one

461
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,040
Speaker 3: celebratory meal or was that how he is? And you

462
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Speaker 3: see sort of were there were clues along the way,

463
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Speaker 3: spending the money, party and all that stuff. It could

464
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Speaker 3: have just been in a little pocket. We didn't know

465
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Speaker 3: to blow it up. We didn't know what it was.

466
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Speaker 3: But I'm telling you the moment he took off his

467
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Speaker 3: shirt and the ring on Saturday, you got your first

468
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Speaker 3: inclination that ooh, that this didn't go in the right direction.

469
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Speaker 3: When the whole training camp he talked about getting skinned slim.

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Speaker 1: It's more than that too. It's more than just how

471
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Speaker 1: did he manage his life? The naivete to say you

472
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Speaker 1: thought it would be just like it was the last time.

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Speaker 2: Well, the night you did to train yourself, Like what

474
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Speaker 2: are you doing?

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you saw his dad comment afterwards,

476
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Speaker 1: his dad threw I mean, I want to throw him

477
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Speaker 1: under the bus, but his dad didn't hold back, and

478
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Speaker 1: good for him. My point being is, if these are

479
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Speaker 1: levels of success that happened like this versus steadily climbing

480
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Speaker 1: a ladder, even climbing the ladder very quickly, you just

481
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Speaker 1: don't know how to handle any of it.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't.

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Speaker 1: And I honestly like to say, I guess all of

484
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Speaker 1: the overeating, all of the lack of training, all of

485
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Speaker 1: the partying, all of the spending. I'm with you on

486
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Speaker 1: I was taking it back when he was like, yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: I thought it'd be like that in in June.

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Speaker 3: It's like he's like, too honest.

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Speaker 1: My point is like, Andy, you might have been the

490
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Speaker 1: only person on earth who thought it would be just

491
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Speaker 1: like the first time. Even us who had you know, hey,

492
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Speaker 1: maybe Andy has a chance of doing this, none of

493
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Speaker 1: us believed he would be the same, it'd be something new.

494
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Speaker 4: He just waltzed in there utterly unprepared for the moment.

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Speaker 3: It's sad that, you know, whether it was a combination

496
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Speaker 3: of his manager, his trainer, his father, promoters that as

497
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Speaker 3: a whole, they weren't able to reel this in. Like

498
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Speaker 3: I don't like when sometimes there's a random injury that

499
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Speaker 3: calls out of fights, people say, did that injury really happen?

500
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Speaker 3: Was that a did they fake it for whatever? This

501
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 3: would almost been a reason to fake an injury and

502
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Speaker 3: really get this to a point where you can compete.

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Speaker 3: You know why no one knew his name outside of

504
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,360
Speaker 3: hardcore boxing fans coming in because he had showed flashes

505
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Speaker 3: of ability, but he never could get over the hump

506
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Speaker 3: and be disciplined. And in his biggest possible moment outside

507
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Speaker 3: of that June first upset, he had the chance to

508
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Speaker 3: show us how great he can be.

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Speaker 2: And he punted.

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Speaker 3: And that's really sad because him at his very best,

511
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Speaker 3: that would have been a hell of a fun fight.

512
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Speaker 3: That's super important. And now he who knows is he

513
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Speaker 3: gonna drift away? Is gonna come back in big fights?

514
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Speaker 3: All I know is that between him, Eddie Heard and

515
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Speaker 3: Anthony Joshua after the fight all using that word trilogy,

516
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Speaker 3: get the hell out of here. He's got a long

517
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Speaker 3: way to come back before we ever want to see that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna call the first time of fluke,

519
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Speaker 1: but you basically burst onto the scene through what let's

520
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Speaker 1: call an unlikely win, right, I mean in terms of

521
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Speaker 1: expectations then or a chance where everyone had an opportunity

522
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Speaker 1: to recalibrate. Your recalibration is to hit the brakes instead

523
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Speaker 1: of the gas. I mean that you're telling the world

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Speaker 1: that's who you are. You're telling the world that when

525
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Speaker 1: when the wind is at your back, you just decide

526
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Speaker 1: to kick your feet up, rather than let's build, let's pursue,

527
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Speaker 1: let's grow, let's challenge.

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Speaker 4: He didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: Sadly, it was Buster Douglas all over again.

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Speaker 2: It really was. Sadly, there's no.

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Speaker 1: Chance they make a third fight, at least not anytime soon,

532
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Speaker 1: which brings us to the next part of this. I

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Speaker 1: just look, maybe he'll fight that being Anthony Joshua, maybe

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Speaker 1: he'll fight Fury. I wouldn't rule that part out if

535
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Speaker 1: you things have to happen for that to be in place.

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Speaker 3: But to me, what I want to happen is Fury

537
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Speaker 3: is ESPN contractor run out. For that to happen, that's

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Speaker 3: really what's going. Okay, Well, I'm not gonna say it's

539
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Speaker 3: not it's utterly impossible. But let's say there's some some

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Speaker 3: challenges there. But the one fight to me that seems

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Speaker 3: that it will never happen would be Wilder, in part

542
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Speaker 3: because there's boxing politics with him being with PBC and not,

543
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Speaker 3: which would have been great because if Ruiz had one with

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Speaker 3: being with PBC, they could have made that. And and

545
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Speaker 3: by the way, Deontay Wilder are savaging Ruise over the weekend,

546
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Speaker 3: and certain he spoke to Achen Barrock from his own

547
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Speaker 3: as well as Lance Pugmyer from in the Athletic. But

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Speaker 3: the key for me is I just don't buy that

549
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Speaker 3: Anti Joshua was gonna fight either of.

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Speaker 4: Them anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: So here's a question to break that down.

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Speaker 4: It well, I'll let you go. Is it Dillion White next?

553
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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Cheezora next? Who is Anthony Joshua's gonna

555
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Speaker 1: take her next? Because it's not gonna be Fury and

556
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be wild.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jay's got three titles. The mandatories are lining up.

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Speaker 3: It's probably more than likely going to be somebody like

559
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Speaker 3: a kou Rock Poulev, who he was supposed.

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Speaker 2: To fight back a year and a half.

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Speaker 4: The grid.

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Speaker 2: Alexander Usik is one of his mandatories.

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Speaker 3: That's a more difficult fight because we don't really know

564
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Speaker 3: yet if Usik is a legitimate have youweight? I would

565
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Speaker 3: guess that he would fight like a pool lef first

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Speaker 3: and then maybe rematch at Dillian White, who also won

567
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Speaker 3: over the weekend, even though he wasn't in great shape.

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Speaker 3: The rematch would be huge in the UK that's more

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Speaker 3: likely where he's going in twenty twenty, while Wilder Fury

570
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Speaker 3: are going against each other in February, maybe even a

571
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Speaker 3: third time either some rumors in terms of what the

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Speaker 3: language of the contract means, but the whole idea of

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Speaker 3: Aj fighting Wilder or really fighting anyone else that's non

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Speaker 3: to Zone and has their own TV deal, I think

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Speaker 3: we still have a problem. This is going to sound

576
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Speaker 3: like in the Weeds and Inside Baseball, but boxing is

577
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Speaker 3: still handcuffed by politics and the internal idea that while

578
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Speaker 3: I fight exclusively for this network, how do we make

579
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Speaker 3: a fight with this one. The fact that the zone

580
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Speaker 3: is not in the traditional pay per view business still

581
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Speaker 3: to me as a monster problem to these fights happening.

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Speaker 3: Why could we possibly get Fury Wilder? Actually we are

583
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Speaker 3: getting it in February, because Fox and ESPN are able

584
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Speaker 3: with their co pay per view models to come together

585
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Speaker 3: and team up in the promotion and the production of it.

586
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Speaker 3: That happened for me with a Pacio, that happened for

587
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Speaker 3: Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis it rarely ever happens unless the

588
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Speaker 3: fight is big enough. I have asked everybody over the

589
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Speaker 3: last year to Zone side, PBC, side the managers. Everybody said, look,

590
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Speaker 3: is it possible that a dizone superstar fighter like an

591
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Speaker 3: Anthony Joshua could fight a Deontay Wilder were a Tyson

592
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Speaker 3: Fury from another.

593
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Speaker 2: Network where it was a joint network deal.

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Speaker 3: And everyone sort of says, well, because there's a male

595
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Speaker 3: end and a female end that don't connect here. If

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Speaker 3: you were coming out and being all sports streaming app

597
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Speaker 3: and his own and your motto is we killed the

598
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Speaker 3: pay per view business, how are you going to do

599
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Speaker 3: a joint effort with somebody else unless you get into

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Speaker 3: the pay per view business. So until I see something

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Speaker 3: rectified in those two models not coming together, It's not

602
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Speaker 3: like Al Hayman's gonna say go ahead, Dante, go over

603
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Speaker 3: and fight on his own. No, not gonna happen. Bob

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Speaker 3: Aerram's not going to say, Okay, Tyson Fury, go fight

605
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Speaker 3: him on his own. Everyone's in their own house saying

606
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Speaker 3: you got to come to me. So you're really gonna

607
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Speaker 3: have to wait until the model changes or somebody's contract

608
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Speaker 3: runs out before we can see these.

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Speaker 1: And that's said, it's certainly revealing that in the case

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Speaker 1: of let's look at Mayweather McGregor, Yes it was a

611
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Speaker 1: boxing match, but ultimately, who are the two promoters? You

612
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: had an MMA promoter working with Showtime and Mayweather promotions

613
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Speaker 1: together I mean across sports quite literally. But the reason

614
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Speaker 1: they could make that happen, to the point you just

615
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Speaker 1: nicely articulated, is that, ultimately, at the time, what underpinned

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Speaker 1: them both was a similar kind of business model, a

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Speaker 1: similar kind of output, and a deliverable to the product

618
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Speaker 1: that made Yes, I'm sure negotiation is a little bit difficult,

619
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Speaker 1: but in the end not insurmountable because in the end

620
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Speaker 1: they all had a very similar kind of goal for

621
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Speaker 1: revenue sharing and distribution of the product. The zone kind

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Speaker 1: of complicates that to a pre You.

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Speaker 3: Want to talk about a big win for AJ even

624
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Speaker 3: bigger win for to zone. If you're in the weeds

625
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Speaker 3: on the business. That was a big win for Disign.

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Speaker 1: You shoe the numbers in sky Sports, by the way,

627
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Speaker 1: So the pay per view one point six million.

628
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Speaker 2: That country is not that big, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just in the UK that is an extremely high number.

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Speaker 1: So to your point, it probably is the biggest star

631
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Speaker 1: in global boxing. But for well, at least in terms

632
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Speaker 1: of the heavyweights anyway. But in terms of getting an

633
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Speaker 1: action fight, I saw some people be like, yeah, I

634
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Speaker 1: can't wait till we Fight's Wilder. Well, pull a seat

635
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Speaker 1: up because it's gonna be a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't forget wild They got offered but like

637
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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty million over for a four fight

638
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Speaker 3: deal from de Zone earlier this year and turned it down.

639
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Speaker 4: So it is what it is, all right.

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Speaker 1: So tex us to the second though, of the two

641
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: boxing fights. We were at the other one, Brian Campbell

642
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: Jamal Charlow defending his WBC medalweight title against Dennis Hogan

643
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Speaker 1: winning rather would you say rather easily? I would say

644
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Speaker 1: rather easily. I think in the seventh round. I don't

645
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Speaker 1: have the numbers right in front of.

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Speaker 3: It, say handily more than easily, because it was brilliant,

647
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Speaker 3: how we set up both knockdowns.

648
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Speaker 4: Yes, it was. We were talking about this.

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Speaker 1: We did the prelim stream, which, by the way, is

650
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Speaker 1: also I found out from one of our frends here

651
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Speaker 1: at Showtime they double streamed it once on Showtime Sports

652
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Speaker 1: and also on this channel. So if some of you

653
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Speaker 1: who watched me on this channel, we really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I know this is predominantly an MMA show, but for

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Speaker 1: those of you who are coming along to boxing, we

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Speaker 1: really appreciate that.

657
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Speaker 4: Let me just say this.

658
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Speaker 1: We had talked about what the challenge was for Jamal

659
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Speaker 1: in the pre show for the prelim show, and we

660
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: had thought, you know, look, this is an opportunity for

661
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Speaker 1: you to really stand out, to really show us your

662
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: boxing ability, in part because there was a bit of

663
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Speaker 1: a visibility issue for him, and in part because his

664
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Speaker 1: last two fights, albeit for some different circumstances, Corbov being

665
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: a good boxer, and then Adams, you know, yes, coming

666
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: woted to fourbe hurt his hand in his own hometown,

667
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: so he needs to come out and have a dynamic display.

668
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: I would argue mission accomplished for the most part. You know,

669
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Speaker 1: dropping him with that uppercut was phenomenal. I mean literally

670
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: taking him off of his feet. The guy did a

671
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: backwards summersault and then that little dip to the side

672
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Speaker 1: and then the I think he rushed him with the left.

673
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but throwing the faint first to move to have

674
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Speaker 2: Hogan move his he kind of.

675
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Speaker 1: He just showed tremendous boxing talent, tremendous athletic ability. Still,

676
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Speaker 1: the issue is for me, well, it's clear. It's clear

677
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: at this point, I think, and I said this on

678
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Speaker 1: the prelim show. I think I stand by it. Now

679
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 1: he can punch it one sixty. I don't know why

680
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: people say he can't punch it one sixty.

681
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Speaker 2: I don't know who those people are.

682
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 4: There's there's some.

683
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: Dumbasses out there. But he could punch it one sixty.

684
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Speaker 1: Still though, Still, I I just don't know that. That

685
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: was the kind of performance that like got people to say, wow,

686
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: that was amazing. It was the kind of performance where

687
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Speaker 1: I saw people saying afterwards, yeah, that's what you should

688
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: have done, and he did. Well, he needs to do

689
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Speaker 1: that against somebody people really truly.

690
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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Now, you're certainly could get a hardcore

691
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: cynical and by the way, there's no cynics like a

692
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: boxing cynic that could say, well, you're supposed to do

693
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: that against Hogan, but Hogan's a durable dude with a

694
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: weird style. But Charlo did we supposed to do? From

695
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: the standpoint, if you want to produce a gift, you

696
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: want to produce a highlight reel knockout. And that's ultimately

697
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: what he did. And did you see the relief on

698
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: his face afterwards? He had been so combative in the

699
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: build up at the way and man, he was just

700
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: like tied, really damn tight, and to see him just

701
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: all happy Joijo afterwards showed you the pressure he put

702
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: on himself to be that guy again. Who's that guy?

703
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: The guy that when he moved up from a successful

704
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: run as a title holder at one fifty four, had

705
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: those two title wind knockouts against Island and against Centino

706
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Speaker 3: Junior spectacular.

707
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: We were talking, is he pund for pound? Is he

708
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: on the way to there?

709
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, the two decision fights slowed him down

710
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 3: a bit, but now it's time really to get him

711
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: in there with the biggest name you possibly can. And

712
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: it's not a secret that his owne has invested heavily

713
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: in the middleweight division. So the big names like a Canelo,

714
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: a Triple G and Android. For now, we're on the

715
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Speaker 3: other side of the show street unless promoters are willing

716
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Speaker 3: to play ball.

717
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: But you're building up.

718
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Now names on the Showtime Fox, BBC side that are

719
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: getting interesting. I don't know if you saw Sergey Derevinchenko

720
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: in the crowd, he called him out. He's a promotional

721
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: free agent. And you have Chris Ubank Junior on that

722
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Speaker 3: on niter card.

723
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Speaker 1: Well, let me get to that. So let me get

724
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: to that. We didn't talk about this this part. I'm

725
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: actually really curious to get your opinion. So if you

726
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: guys didn't see the fight, Korobov and you Bank were

727
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: in the co main event again, the main event and

728
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: co main event, all one hundred and sixty pounders, all middleweights.

729
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: The thought was you Bank Junior coming in, brash, athletic, aggressive,

730
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: not the most technical boxer, but the kind of guy

731
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: who could just put the heat on you in big punches,

732
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: coming off that nice one over to Gail. So we thought,

733
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: if you can get by Korobov, man, that's your next guy.

734
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: And he was chirping all a fight week, which would

735
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, Annoyd Jamal Charlow, I really think the way

736
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: that ended kind of hurt things a little bit for

737
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: you Bank a little bit for short time as well.

738
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: In the sound of that, though, okay, fair enough, here's

739
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: my thought. I still want to see you Bank take

740
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: on Charlo because I kind of felt like, yes, Korobob

741
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: was doing well early, but we all knew that the

742
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: second half of that fight was gonna be U Bank's

743
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: fight in all likelihood, still throwing the shoulder out. You

744
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: just didn't get a chance in your US debut to

745
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: take the British flag and stamp it in Brooklyn and

746
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: say I will defend this.

747
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: It was called Charlo's name.

748
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: He spent the time saying that it was karma for

749
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: Coorra Ball.

750
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: That was a dick move. But that's, by the way,

751
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: that's on Brandy.

752
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: But my point being is, you know who he wasn't

753
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: talking about. He wasn't talking about Charlo, and that to

754
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: me was a bit of a mister crazy.

755
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: Jamal had spent all week yelling at anybody who brought

756
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: up the name You Bank Junior. In fact, he told

757
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: me to f off on my podcast when I asked

758
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: too many questions about you Bank. Yet at the way

759
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 3: and man, I don't know if you saw Charlo got

760
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 3: up pretty close to you Bank when he got off

761
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: the scale and looked in his eyes. It's such a sexy,

762
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: marketable fight from a promotional standpoint. You're right, we didn't

763
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: get the big look at me now moment. But boxing

764
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: fans also know who Chris Ubank Junior is. And one

765
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: thing that didn't happen that potentially could have is exposure,

766
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: because he could have gotten exposed against a technical boxer

767
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: like Koro Bov, who is such a tough out and

768
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: doesn't make you look good because of that amateur experience

769
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty fights.

770
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: It's a cheesy win, but in some cases, I.

771
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: Mean he was hosting a bat.

772
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: He didn't answer the questions that we needed answered, and

773
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that hurts though a potential build toward

774
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: Charlo and you Bank because if that was next and

775
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 3: we don't know if it is the trash talk alone,

776
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: the highlights you can play of both of them alone,

777
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: the fact that they already do not like each other

778
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: and have been talking bad. Man, this could be a

779
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: fun fight and it would be such a legitimate test

780
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: of Charlo just the same as you Bank, because U

781
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: Bank's already proven he's a knockout puncher at sixty eight.

782
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: Now he's moving down to his natural weight would be.

783
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: Wild, okay, But the point being is you can hurt

784
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: some sorry times, excuse me. Sometimes you can not hurt

785
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: without helping. Sometimes you can do. Sometimes the hurting actually

786
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: gets right in the way.

787
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 4: Here's my point. It's like.

788
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: You needed some kind of moment to establish a bit

789
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: of a visible presence. I mean, how many people in

790
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: the crowd really knew who you Bank Junior was? The

791
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: name probably looked familiar. The hardcore certainly knew who he was.

792
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Obviously he's popular across the I just felt like, you know,

793
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: they needed Sometimes.

794
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: A push is better than a loss, you know, absolutely.

795
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it hurt it. They could still make it.

796
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: And again, all the chirping he did the last press conference,

797
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: that's all footage. They're gonna be able to take int

798
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: any potential fight that they make. At the same time,

799
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: it would have been nice to see him like come

800
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: back and then finish off Korbov in the tenth or

801
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: eleventh or something, to be like, wow, man, he really

802
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: is that guy. Because as Ploimon and aage Get stated,

803
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: you know Korobov was an amateur world champion in legitimate talent.

804
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: A south Paul as well, it just would have been nice.

805
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

806
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to MMA if we can.

807
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Here for just a moment. Something happened this past week,

808
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. I don't really like any of this, but

809
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm be curios to get your perspective on it, of course,

810
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: which is that Frankie Edgar was supposed to fight on

811
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: January twenty fifth Cordy Sandhagen, and it was going to

812
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: be Frankie Edgar's bantamweight debut instead because Brian Ortega at

813
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: one forty five fell out against the Korean Zombie for

814
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: his fight scheduled in the twenty first of this month

815
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: in Busan, South Korea. Edgar said, you know what, here's

816
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm going to fill in for

817
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: Ortega at one forty five again the Zombie, and uh,

818
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna try and see if we can make it

819
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: happen against san Hagen at one thirty five a month later. Look,

820
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: everybody respects Frankie Edgar and everybody admires what he's done,

821
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: and I would be very foolish to say he can't

822
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: do any of this. But if we're talking about probability,

823
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: if we're talking about career management, let me just say

824
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't understand this for a couple of reasons. First,

825
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: why are you going back to one forty five? If

826
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: you beat Korean Zombie, it's possible you could get a

827
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: title shot, but that's not a guarantee. And it really

828
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: is not a guarantee if Max Holloway beats Volkanovka, and

829
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: nobody would want to even if Volkanovsky wins Vulkan. I

830
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: don't want to play ma math, but I would just say,

831
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: if let's say Volkanovski wins this Saturday, that will mean

832
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: he beat He had beaten Aldo and Holloway, the two

833
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: guys at featherweight Edgar couldn't get passed. That's the guy

834
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get passed. It doesn't seem like all that

835
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: clear to me. Secondly, you look at the three guys

836
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: that Korean Zombie just fought right since his return from

837
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: this military sabbatical. Moy Kan knocked him out. Yeah here

838
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: sent him to the hospital even though he won. And

839
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: then of course Bermuda has knocked him out, the point

840
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: being his winner lose. Those guys aren't ready to fight

841
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: a month later, and so are you still going to

842
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: go to one thirty five because I don't know how

843
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: that's going to get back on the tracks. I mean

844
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: maybe it will, but klock sticking. He's almost thirty nine

845
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: years old. I just don't like this brank kid. Didn't

846
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: we learn a lesson?

847
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: The year was twenty seventeen and middleweight champion Michael Bisping's

848
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: exactly a tough ass fight against GSP for the title

849
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: in which he got beat.

850
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: Up for two and a half rounds and then got submitted.

851
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: And three weeks later he played the veteran card and

852
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: they said we need you to headline in China against

853
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: Kelvin Gastelum and he got sent to hell and his

854
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: career was over.

855
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Frank Edgar. Right now you're thirty.

856
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: Eight, you're in that rich Franklin period of your career.

857
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: Like I like to say, where you can float weight classes.

858
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: They can call you last minute and say we need

859
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: you to save this card, we need your name, we

860
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: need your star power. He kind of cashed in his

861
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: last title shot opportunity in my eyes against Max. I

862
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: know this moved down in wait maybe as a chain

863
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: to revive that and get one more, But how the

864
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: heck could not What are you doing, Frankie, Because Frankie

865
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: is a fighter man, He's gonna fight, He's gonna fight

866
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: for purses, and he's gonna fight. How the heck are

867
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: you the UFC and you are not just canceling the

868
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: Sanhagan fight because if they want to use his name

869
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: to save this card against Korean Zombie, more power to him.

870
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 3: That's fine. By the way, the matchup doesn't suck?

871
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Does it throw off his plans to go to one

872
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: thirty five? Yes?

873
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: But how the hell are you gonna have two fights

874
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: on the book in one month with a thirty eight

875
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 3: year old guy and the first one's a killer action

876
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: savage the second one is the killer Well, I know,

877
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: but we may not get to the second one. So

878
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: it's like, why even mention that. I don't care who

879
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: is fighting. I don't give fighting you in the second one.

880
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: By the way, your functional jiu jitsu game is kind

881
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: of good, right, shut up just case anyway, Look, I

882
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 3: love Franki, Edgar, How could you not love Frankie Edgar,

883
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: but the guy's got old balls.

884
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: Why you said, I don't have to fail here?

885
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: How do I follow the old balls comment?

886
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: Look?

887
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: The other point here is too is I was wondering.

888
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: He was like, why is the UFC doing this? You

889
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: know you've got this guy you could send to one

890
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: thirty five Because one thirty five was getting interesting.

891
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: I was asking the folks.

892
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: I was asking, like Cody Staman and Rob Fawt, who

893
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: are at UFC DC for media Day. I was like,

894
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: here comes Aldo, right, fabers back, here comes Frankie. Want

895
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: thirty five is getting some veteran names that some of

896
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: you youngsters can like, if you can get the wins,

897
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: you'll build your name off of it. And they all

898
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of intriguing. Now Aldo still has

899
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: that fight this weekend, if you can make it to

900
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: the scales without some kind of you know, God forbid,

901
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: serious issue. But let's talk about Edgar for just a second.

902
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I could he have beaten Cory Sanhagan. I certainly take

903
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: his chances.

904
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 4: Seriously.

905
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: It's a tough that's a tough fight, man, it's a.

906
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: Super tough fight.

907
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: So my whole point being is now Cory Sanhagen has

908
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: left an alert, so I was thinking, what is the

909
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: UFC get out of this, dude. The UFC will let

910
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: you fall on your own sword, because I think what

911
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: they're saying to themselves is we'd rather lose a co

912
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: main event than a main event, particularly in a development.

913
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: Cancel the damn comine event already I.

914
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: Agree, give san Haagen somebody else. And the other part

915
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: about this is too you know Ryan Hall is looking

916
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: for an opponent. I don't know if Sanahagan was interested

917
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: or not, but I know that he volunteered for the

918
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: Korean Zombie fight. He tried to get the UFC DC card.

919
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: Folks don't want to fight him. So there's a lot

920
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: of different ways.

921
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: How about the damn Dominator when the Cruz is back

922
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: look good in some training videos.

923
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: All this is to say, I don't like going up

924
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: to one forty five, but there are ways. If things

925
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: work out, it could be fine. And to your point,

926
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: who's against an Edgar versus Korean zombie fight in a vacuum.

927
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: It's a phenomenal contest, but all the different ways in

928
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: which it's being made and why it's being made, and

929
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: who can benefit if I'm advising Frankie Edgar.

930
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that this is the smartest call, but

931
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: you're right about the fall and the sword. If you

932
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: reveal the UFC that you got this much left in

933
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: the jar, they'll say pour it out, let's do it.

934
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: They'll let you burn it.

935
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Speaking of Cory san Haagen, by the way, who I'm

936
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: very high on is Marina Hadriguez, the female version of him.

937
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: I mean, we talked quickly about that fight over the

938
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: weekend with Cynthia Calvillo, but Marina impressed big time.

939
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: She did.

940
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: Except I would say that san Jagan's ground game is

941
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: much better. I mean, that's the whole point, right, Like

942
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: he can just he's got Alma Plotzas, he's had a

943
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: good guard, he could take the back. He's just nasty

944
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: with it. So I understand. Maybe maybe Edgar likes his

945
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: chances against Zombie better. He's gonna wrestle him to death.

946
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's a weird one to put

947
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: it mildly.

948
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: How about they pay him not not to do that,

949
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: Just pay them not to be to take the second fight.

950
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: Please just just be nicer.

951
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind that either.

952
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: A right. It takes us to the big event coming

953
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: up this weekend. I'm so excited about this. Brian Campbell

954
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: UFC two forty five is this weekend.

955
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: Do a whole show on that.

956
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: We could do an entire show just about that. So

957
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: let's while there are many different storylines, let's center it

958
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: on the three fights at the top, which of course

959
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: are the women's bantamweight title, the men's featherweight title, and

960
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: then the men's welterweight title. My first question for you, Campbell,

961
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: and there's really no wrong answer, it's just your preference.

962
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: Which of the three title fights is the best.

963
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: It's a great question.

964
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's why I asked it.

965
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: The best of the three title fights. It really is

966
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: the main event.

967
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: Okay, tell me why.

968
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 3: Because you're mixing in the element, of course of promotion

969
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: of who's next in terms of a potential superstar and

970
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: love them hatre to love them.

971
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 2: The underdog is on top.

972
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: Colby Covington could actually be a giant thing with a victory.

973
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: Here was that a game reference that was not nineties?

974
00:37:59,560 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: Take that?

975
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: Take that nineties counter off of their.

976
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: Right fifty I guess go ahead.

977
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 3: Wow, this is such an intriguing matchup because Usman's rolled

978
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: through everybody and nobody has talked more game than Covington. Yet,

979
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 3: if the wrestling cancel each other out, which I don't

980
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: think enough people are talking, the potential of this will

981
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: be an interesting fight on the feet, and I think

982
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: one that Usman can dominate.

983
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: I don't agree. Uh So here's the thing. And thinking

984
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: about what.

985
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: I was going to do for Dissected today, I was

986
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: saying to myself, man, what are they gonna do? Like

987
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: I want to do the main event for two forty five?

988
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: And I looked at the numbers and there was here's

989
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: the reality about this. Colby Covington in his MMA career

990
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: has never fought someone like Kamara Usman. Kamara Usman, in

991
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: his UFC and MMA career, has never fought anybody like

992
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: Colby Covington. These two are the first time, I'm not

993
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: gonna say mirror images, but the first time you get

994
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: the sense that they can match each other with the wrestling.

995
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: But while I certainly take as a possibility, it could

996
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: be on the and of the two, Kamaru is the

997
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: harder hitter, but the busier of the two, and the

998
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: guy who has his bread and butter on the field

999
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: on offense is Kobe Covington, but my hunch is there's

1000
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna be some cancellation of that.

1001
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's the drama. That's why I say that's

1002
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: the best way to the drama of seeing that play out.

1003
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: I think in the end what's gonna happen is one

1004
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: guy's gonna put the wrestling game on the other.

1005
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 4: In the end gonna someone's gonna bend that knee.

1006
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know who it is, but my hunch

1007
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: is that's how it's ultimately going to be resolved.

1008
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: Not with these I think that when you bring in

1009
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: the emotions at stake of not liking each other, and

1010
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: you bring in the potential for a high energy five

1011
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: round fight between arguably the guys with the two biggest

1012
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: gas tanks in the sport, this could be one of

1013
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: those fights that can be super entertaining and super high

1014
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: level for hardcore is only at the same time, and

1015
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: like I said, when you add in the pro wrestling

1016
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: elements on top of it and sprinkling on this is

1017
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: a fight that I'm very excited about that I feel

1018
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: like has almost no buzz when ye yet when it

1019
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: was booked, I'm like, oh my god, the build up

1020
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: the conference calls the fight week. I mean, look, we'll

1021
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: give them a chance fight week that it could heat up.

1022
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: But there's like nobody talking about this fight.

1023
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: You know what's weird. Did you watch the countown video

1024
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: that they put out. I watched it yesterday's. It's almost

1025
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: as if Colby and Kamaru don't hate each other, they

1026
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: hate the idea of each other, Like there's no real

1027
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: like when GSP would go up against Koshcheck, you got

1028
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 1: the sense that Coscheck, even if he was playing a role,

1029
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: kind of got under gsp skin in a real way.

1030
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: It just seems very transactional between these two and.

1031
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: I didn't think it would get there, and it's a

1032
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: little distant like it's been.

1033
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: And here's the other part, like I don't know if

1034
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: they're just turning down media, and I'm sure as they

1035
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: get in front of each other's face, it's gonna get

1036
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: ugly this week.

1037
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: So please don't mist understand me.

1038
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: But the weird thing is they're not talking about each other.

1039
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: There's no chirping at each other on social media. They're

1040
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: they're treating it as this is a thing I have

1041
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: to show up at where this person will happen to

1042
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: me there.

1043
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: I think, which makes me wonder does Colby really have

1044
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: that potential star power or is it only as a

1045
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: b side to another guy who can talk.

1046
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I know this.

1047
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: If he wins MMA, media is gonna lose their mind,

1048
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: but they can't conceive of the idea that he's actually

1049
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 1: really good.

1050
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: But your original question to me, though, had had a

1051
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: couple of different ways you can look at it. This

1052
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 3: is the fight, the main event I'm most looking forward to.

1053
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: From a I don't really know what's gonna happen. I

1054
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: want to see the drama play out. Agree, but it

1055
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 3: is the cole main event that has the best potential

1056
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: for action.

1057
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me get to that. Because the second

1058
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: question I had written down here was which title challenger

1059
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: is the livest dog? Well, that's the third fight. Oh

1060
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: I would disagree. I would actually argue, well, I take Drew. Okay,

1061
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: I take GDR and her chances against amand Newness very seriously.

1062
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: But my personal opinion is the person who has their

1063
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: hands the fullest in this is Max Holloway. Alex Volkanowski

1064
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: very quiet, not a guy who's gonna get there and

1065
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: do a bunch of interviews and say a bunch of things.

1066
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: In fact, even when I ask him about technique, his coach,

1067
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: Eugene Barman, has encouraged him not to say anything to me.

1068
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: So he keeps everything close to the vest.

1069
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: But if you watched his fight with Aldo, you got

1070
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: the sense that, I mean, maybe he gets the knockout,

1071
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't.

1072
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: Max has got a good chimp. He's taking a lot

1073
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: of abuse this year. We'll see.

1074
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: But are you implying that they don't want Professor Salt

1075
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: and Pepper to expose to the world what they do, right?

1076
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: You would have to ask him what they want and

1077
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: don't want. I just know what they tell them to

1078
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: say to me when they have interviews. What I would

1079
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: tell you, though, is Max probably is a favorite here.

1080
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: But Volklinovsky is a tough dude. These guys from City Kickboxing,

1081
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: they have People don't understand. They have a striking game

1082
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: inside of a disguised striking game in every capacity, so

1083
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to get a read. They can change

1084
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: things up, they can land when you don't expect that.

1085
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: They find openings you don't think are there.

1086
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: They are. They are a handful.

1087
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: He's got a good gas tank, he's powerful, he can

1088
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: he can wrestle again. I don't know that he wins,

1089
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: but I think Max Holloway is in for the fight

1090
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: of his life.

1091
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 3: Can he beat Max Holloway thoroughly and win a decision

1092
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: or would it only come through a knockout against a

1093
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: guy who's insanely durable who you can't take that either.

1094
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: It has a potential for very high theater.

1095
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: Last thing on this, because Jayson wants to move along,

1096
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: what would you say? Why would you say that the

1097
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: GDR and in his rematches.

1098
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: Because I think that you know, she certainly came a

1099
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: somewhat of a laughing stock with the title win giving

1100
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 3: up the title that she didn't want to face Cyborg.

1101
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: They didn't even tell her that they stripped her all

1102
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: that yet since then, she's just steadily doing what the

1103
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: Iron Lady does, which is, you know, not entertain you

1104
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: on the microphone, but win fights technically. And the fact

1105
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: that she's big, the fact that she's been in there

1106
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 3: before against Amandia. I know she lost, but she isn't

1107
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: somebody that seems overwhelmed by the moment or have any

1108
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: kind of fear. She's just a tough ass technical out

1109
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: and we've seen Amanda get in there with people and

1110
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: bully them and knock them out, and this is going

1111
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: to be somebody who's taller who's going to be a

1112
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 3: lot harder to do that. I'm not saying it doesn't

1113
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 3: end in a knockout like every other Amanda fight seems

1114
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: to go, but this has the potential to be one

1115
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: of those interesting ones. If GDR can really control distance

1116
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: and control the pace of this fight and not get

1117
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: it into a back.

1118
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: And forth, well, we look at the trouble that Nuna's

1119
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: had with Shivchenko, who's not even a real band some way,

1120
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, on the feet, GDR

1121
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: can absolutely beat Amanda Nunaz, But if you go back

1122
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: to the first fight, is just her down.

1123
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 4: So we'll see if she does that this time. Hard

1124
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 4: to say.

1125
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: All right, now, that takes us to the next part

1126
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: of the show. This is what we call dms from donks.

1127
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: This is where you donks send us questions on our

1128
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Instagram at Morning Combat on Instagram. So give us a

1129
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: a liken a follow there. All right, let's do this.

1130
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: Let's get to it.

1131
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: Now.

1132
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: This comes to us from AZA's underscore zero worst name

1133
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: ever Brian Campbell. Why did AJ get a lot of

1134
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: hate for hitting and not getting hit but Fury gets

1135
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: pret prize for it?

1136
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a fair criticism there about why he's

1137
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: getting that criticism.

1138
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: It's tough. I mean also because he went and told

1139
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: the world. You see that video, I reached it. He

1140
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: told the world you should never fight this way, and

1141
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: then he fights that way.

1142
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: And making fun of Fury's victory ever Klitschko in the

1143
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: past he had said that, but look, AJ got humbled

1144
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: in the last fight. And what's interesting here is it

1145
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: has always been fun to watch because you saw the

1146
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: vulnerabilities in there because we've seen him Luke get hurt

1147
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: by jabs or get dropped by clitch go or get

1148
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, sort of caught in certain ways that he's

1149
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: always sort of tiptoe in the high wire to get

1150
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: to the victory. Now it'll be even more going forward.

1151
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: Nothing really changes in that regard. But by the way,

1152
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: same thing happened to Lennox Lewis when he got knocked

1153
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: out twice during his title reigns and got back, you know,

1154
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: came back, re won the title, and yet every fight

1155
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: were sort of waiting for him to fall. Same thing

1156
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: for Clitch Goo after those two knockout losses at the

1157
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: early part of his career and then went on that

1158
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: long run. So I think with AJ it's sort of

1159
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: like he's so big and he had a reputation as

1160
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: being a finisher. You don't think of him as a

1161
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: technical boxer. So when he's not acting like that finisher,

1162
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: people start to go, oh, way, you're being boring. No,

1163
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: he's being smart and.

1164
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, look people got all me on Twitter about this.

1165
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: I have no problem with the way that he fought,

1166
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: but he he did what he had.

1167
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: He landed big right hands. He was not fighting a

1168
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: negative fight.

1169
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: Also, let's say even if he didn't, dude, he did

1170
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: what he had to do. I mean, there was so

1171
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: much riding on the line. He even said in the

1172
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: prosby Press converse, he goes, there's entertaining them his winning

1173
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: and tonight was about winning.

1174
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: I have no problem with that.

1175
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: The problem that I have is when you win that

1176
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: way a after you had said previously you should never

1177
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: win that way. I get it, it's maturation. I understand.

1178
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: He also never been knocked out, so it changes.

1179
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 4: I get it. I get it, but.

1180
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Then to go out there and be like, Hey, if

1181
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: the other guys want to fight me, like Wilder and Fury,

1182
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: you just pick up the phone. Dude, Stop being disingenuous

1183
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: about it. Stop being so not real. And I understand

1184
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: that you also have to say to the public certain things,

1185
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: but at some point it's like, dude, this is this

1186
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: is borderline lying to the public, and I just I

1187
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: can't abide by you know, you know you're not fighting

1188
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Fury anytime soon, and you know you probably.

1189
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: Will never And answer that question, why do people don't

1190
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: say that about Fury Because he's not a big puncher.

1191
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: That's how he wins fights.

1192
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: His And he also claims to be I'm the best boxer,

1193
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: which you know, there's some debate about that, but it's

1194
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: certainly a credible claim. And Wilder says I'm the heaviest hitter,

1195
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: which I don't know if he is in boxing history,

1196
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: but he's certainly up there. Like the guys kind of

1197
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: stick to what the truth is. Oh, I'll fight those guys.

1198
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: No you won't, No, you won't. Like it's just real quick.

1199
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: Every time there's a big heavyweight fight, I like to

1200
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: update my heavyweight pound for pound rankings. Even though Joshua

1201
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 3: was very successful, even though he holds three or four belts,

1202
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 3: I think he's slipping down because of that vulnerability. I've

1203
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 3: got Fury one, Wilder right behind him at two because

1204
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: I thought Fury beat him last year.

1205
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and three men?

1206
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: I mean, can we put Usik on the list yet?

1207
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: Do we have to see him fight against somebody?

1208
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: I think Victor? I think Lewis Ortiz at this point. Sorry, what.

1209
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: I think Lewis Ortiz beats Anthony Joshua And a lot

1210
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: of people are calling me crazy already, but I'd love

1211
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: to see that.

1212
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: By the way, I also said this, where are you

1213
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 4: in this one? I said, Wilder?

1214
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 2: There's no way.

1215
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: I don't I see Joshua's surviving twelve rounds with Wilder Now?

1216
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 2: Is or out boxing Fury?

1217
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Or Is Joshua the much better technical boxer than Wilder? Yes,

1218
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: but Wilder needs the tiniest of moments. And look at

1219
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: that reach he had. If Andy Ruiz can touch you

1220
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: on occasion, which wasn't much, but on occasion and he prepared,

1221
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: Wilder is in there, dude, He's gonna find.

1222
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 3: I want to say both Lennox, Lewis and Klitschko after

1223
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: getting knocked out at certain points in their career. Both

1224
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: took Hall of Fame trainer Emmanuel Stewart. Both took more

1225
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: of an upright jab heavy stance, a little more defensive.

1226
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: I do think aj will be more boring the rest

1227
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: of his career, but those vulnerabilities are going to be

1228
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 3: there every single fight.

1229
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Man, We'll see So next is from Blue nine Star

1230
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: ninety seven again rival for the worst name ever. Do

1231
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: you think canel O'Ryan Campbell will over fight Charlo or Andreid?

1232
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: No the way every time I see Andreid, I always

1233
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: think the MMA thing. So Onrodge, Yeah, ok.

1234
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I do think he'll eventually fight Andreid unless he's

1235
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: just done with the middleway division. There's rumors that when

1236
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: he comes back in the spring, it maybe at sixty

1237
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: eight against like a Callum Smith who holds a bell

1238
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: the or Billy Joe Saunders. If he inevitably is done

1239
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: at middleweight, Luke, I could see him just being like, Look,

1240
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: even though Demitrius Andraid is part of his own, even

1241
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: though he's I can fight him easily, man, he's still

1242
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: the Swiss army knife for that middleweight division where we

1243
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: don't know how great he is, and he's probably the

1244
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: toughest guy. Yeah, physically, to fight with that length and

1245
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: that speed, it's not impossible. Canelo always takes some tough

1246
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: challenges when we think he won't. But in terms of

1247
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: fighting Charlo, unless Charlo skyrockets to some level of even

1248
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: higher stardom, quicker, I don't see how you're going to

1249
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: make that fight with the same political divides I talked

1250
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 3: about earlier with the heavyweights, I don't see Al Hayman saying,

1251
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: go ahead to Zonne, take Charlo for one fight and

1252
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 3: will make that happen your side of the street.

1253
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see that happening.

1254
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: And by the way, Danny Jacobs has left the division.

1255
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: Basically yeahs Junior, good lord, Well, I mean what you

1256
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: want to say about that.

1257
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: But what did that fight get canceled?

1258
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: Yet?

1259
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: I thought because of the drug testing thing they were

1260
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: gonna pull her.

1261
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: I haven't. I haven't heard. I think it's still Oh

1262
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: my god, that's boxing, bro, come on, yeah, we know.

1263
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: That's boxing. That's the saying we have. That's boxing.

1264
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's like, dude, why don't you know how

1265
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Jorge Mazlo is calling out Canelo. But you couldn't make

1266
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: the Canal fight because of his own thing. You could

1267
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: make the Charlo fight. Why doesn't he call out Charlo?

1268
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: Who cane or because it's lame? Stop with this.

1269
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm not listen. I make the same argument and his

1270
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: manager got mad at me on Twitter. What do you

1271
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: want me to tell you?

1272
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: Charlo would send him to hell on a boxing magic?

1273
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 4: You tell him if you tell him was when I

1274
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,959
Speaker 4: say it, everyone gets better?

1275
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: All right?

1276
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: This comes us from jog Van o Lav's son. I'm

1277
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: sure I'm saying that wrong. Is the upcoming fight between

1278
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: Kabebe and Tony the most anticipated fight in UFC history?

1279
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: Breaking?

1280
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: It's not. But I did to make that argument last

1281
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: week that I do think in all of combat sports

1282
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: it's the best fight you can make on paper in

1283
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: terms of an actual fight extras and O's matchup for

1284
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: sus mashup.

1285
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's actually the best fight.

1286
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: I think it's even better than Narrow Spence and Terrence.

1287
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 4: Crawford, better than Fury Wilder.

1288
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: It's right there, dude.

1289
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I want to see this one on a

1290
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: little bit more. But in terms of the most anticipated no,

1291
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: because what really makes something anticipated. Is that extra level

1292
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 3: of celebrity and star power. And you want to talk

1293
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 3: about what are some of the most anticipated fights in history.

1294
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I'm not joking here.

1295
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: Anderson Silva ChIL Son in two is one of the

1296
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: most anticipated fights in UFC history. I don't think I've

1297
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: ever been more giddy entering a fight. There was there

1298
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: was that, there was brock Carwin. I was equally giddy.

1299
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: It was almost like Brussel many A three. It was

1300
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: like this. You know, I've certainly been giddy for name

1301
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 3: any other big you know, some certain John Jones. There

1302
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: were certain John Jones fights that you're just like, man,

1303
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: this is gonna be the one where he gets caught.

1304
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: I got to see it. I don't think this one's

1305
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: on that level of star power. I mean it's certainly

1306
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: not Mayweather. I mean certainly not McGregor and Habibi. I mean,

1307
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: could you ever beat McGregor and he'd be for anticipation.

1308
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: No, I couldn't. But I'll say this, you know, it's

1309
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: kind of funny.

1310
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: They were showing who all the luminaries were in attendance

1311
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: at Ruiz Joshua too, and in the attendance. It was

1312
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: like Canelo I think had been given spoken backstage to

1313
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: Ruiz and there were some other boxing folk there. They

1314
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: showed Kobeb because he got like apparently a star welcome

1315
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: you know who was there. They didn't show anywhere Sonya

1316
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: with visual out a Sonya. So it gives you a

1317
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: sense of I'm not saying that a Sonya deserve to

1318
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: not be shown.

1319
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: Quite quite the opposite. He should have been shown.

1320
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: But the fact that they knew Kobeb was this big

1321
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: and he got that kind of a reception.

1322
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: By the way, how about the balls on them playing

1323
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: Sweet Caroline and Saudi, Oh my god, Caroline Sweet, but

1324
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: she can't drive a car vote or or walk without

1325
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: a headdress on.

1326
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: And also Max Holloway, Sorry Max. Max Kellerman noted, Dude,

1327
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing that people like that song.

1328
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: People like it's not in the UK. Mate, Well it

1329
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: is if you have ears.

1330
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: It's a very cheeky thing, all right, you gotta you

1331
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 3: gotta go.

1332
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: Song is it's it's the it's the lame person's national anthem,

1333
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: is what it is?

1334
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's the chicken, It's the cougar in a

1335
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: bar's national anthem. Right, yeah, so good, so good. Many

1336
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 2: people have heard that song before, some sloppy ones.

1337
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm there is no doubt that is correct. There

1338
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 5: is no doubt in my mind in any event, I

1339
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 5: would argue very quickly, super fast, between Kobeve and Tony.

1340
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: You're right about all those reasons, especially the celebrity factor.

1341
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: Kuldeep has it. Tony certainly could get it with a win.

1342
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: But in just people always ask me like, what are

1343
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: your dream matchups for MMA? And on occasion I'll have

1344
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: one here or one there. But I make this point

1345
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: all the time, Brian, It's so different than boxing. Like

1346
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: boxing's model has many things that I like about it,

1347
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: MMA's model has many things that I like about it

1348
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: and dislike, and vice versa. They're two really sort of

1349
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: independent worlds, although they are obviously share some similarities. But

1350
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: one of the things I do like about the UFC model,

1351
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: although it comes at fighter expense, I acknowledge you more

1352
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: or less, more or less, you mostly get the fights

1353
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: you want, not always right, not all the time, but

1354
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: you more or less get I mean, think about the

1355
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: UFC is trying to make this fight for the fifth time.

1356
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: They made Pachil Marquez four times because they fall four times.

1357
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: Would a promoter or several promoters try to make this

1358
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: fight five times at the first four it failed?

1359
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 4: You just could never fathom with that.

1360
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: So my whole point is it's like, yes, this is

1361
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: absolutely my most anticipated fight in the calendar. I can't

1362
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: imagine anything be more important than could be versus Tony.

1363
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: But in terms of like, oh my wish list, I mean,

1364
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm more on the MMA side, I'm more or less

1365
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: kind of get it and.

1366
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: Shout out by the way that Chuck Tito two and

1367
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: Chuck Rampage that people forget was so o'bseemly anticipated.

1368
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: That was the first time I saw highlights on Sports

1369
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: Center for a UFC fight. It wasn't the first time

1370
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: it happened, but that was the because I think they

1371
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: had had him on like the biggest day of sports show.

1372
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: I really think Chruck Rampage was the fight. You can

1373
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: argue Chuck Tito too, but I think Chuck Rampage was

1374
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: the fight that the public in the boxing fans for

1375
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 3: the first time.

1376
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, I got to be there for That

1377
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: was the first time I remember a UFC pay per

1378
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: view post Ultimate Fighter because that's the key.

1379
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 4: There had just this really big field. You know it's big.

1380
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: When my friends in DC who can't stand MMA, none

1381
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: of my friends watch MMA, They're like.

1382
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: Does this rampage guy have a chance.

1383
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, well, funny you asked that?

1384
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: All right?

1385
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: In anything says we move on. This is from our

1386
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: YAB ninety seven. Do you think the UFC books the

1387
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: rematch between Geiche and Poirier is the comain for Tony

1388
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: versus a beb in case someone gets injured and Geigee

1389
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 1: can replace them. Now, I had Gechie on my show.

1390
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: I asked him, would you replace them? His answer was like, look,

1391
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the title. I'm not saying I wouldn't,

1392
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: but they'd have to pay for my training. I wouldn't

1393
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: take that fight if I'm gaged. Well he goes, he goes,

1394
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: I'd do it. I would fill in, but you have

1395
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: to pay for my training camp and he goes, I

1396
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: should be next no matter what.

1397
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 4: Yes.

1398
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: So what about the idea though, because if you look

1399
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: at the rankings, everyone's kind of booked up. You've got

1400
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Seroni booked up with McGregor obviously, could be versus Tony

1401
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: Felder and Hooker together. The two odd men out are

1402
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Poorier sitting at two. I think Gates you seeing at

1403
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: four or five? Do you match him up?

1404
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: Brian Camp No, If you're gage Ge, you are You're

1405
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: You're on deck, bro, the only one that can wait.

1406
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: Wait, why do you say gage G?

1407
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: Why am I supposed to say it? Luke the way

1408
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: he says, say Geichie, Gaichie? What am I saying?

1409
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: Gage G?

1410
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: Gage G?

1411
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gaig, I'm Gage G, the one who put the

1412
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: sat and on your panties.

1413
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Yeah, I think it's too dangerous.

1414
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: Dude, you're unless unless Connor passes go and jumps the line,

1415
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: which could happen. Obviously you have a chance to fight

1416
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: next or you have the chance to fill in for

1417
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: either of those big matchups.

1418
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: Don't fight anybody else.

1419
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: This is you know, remember when I told Tony Ferson,

1420
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 3: don't take the dam Pettis fight, don't do it.

1421
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: He did it though, he did it though, but don't

1422
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 4: do it.

1423
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: Don't do it. And then the Seroni don't take that

1424
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 2: one either.

1425
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, don't go to Fox, don't get don't

1426
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: trip over the wire.

1427
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: I would say this.

1428
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: They should have somebody on standby though, they should absolutely

1429
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: have somebody on standby. But the problem is it gets

1430
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: a little hairy. So let's say you have POORI on standby.

1431
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: If Tony falls out, you're gonna do KBI versus Poortier two.

1432
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: Might be on standby.

1433
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: Probably if you have Gaichee on there, he can replace either.

1434
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: But you know, again the UF he would have to

1435
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: pay for his training camp and everything else in between.

1436
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: So all right.

1437
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: This takes us then to Bran Tendo sixty four. That's

1438
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: a better name. Favorite Christmas movie? This person says, I'm

1439
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna take a wild guest and see Campbell is a

1440
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: home alone guy. Well, Luke Thomas prefers the Beavis and

1441
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: butt Head Christmas Special?

1442
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: Where are You Well?

1443
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: Am I supposed to do the manly thing and say

1444
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 3: Diehard is the greatest Christmas movie ever.

1445
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say Diehard is not a Christmas movie,

1446
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: but even if it is, it's not the best.

1447
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 3: One for for sort of like the kid in me. Yeah,

1448
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: I like the one that no one ever talks about.

1449
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: Jack Frost, the original Clay Motion one.

1450
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: I can dig it. I love Jack Frost. That is

1451
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: my favorite one ever.

1452
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: Hear my kids hate it and I make them watch

1453
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 3: it with me?

1454
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: Is that between Paul bart and Malcops? No?

1455
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look in terms of modern Christmas movies that

1456
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: are real Christmas movies. I mean it's it's too a

1457
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: cliche to say it, but Elf is freaking fantastic.

1458
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: Oh it's pretty good. I watched it the other day

1459
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: with my family. We had some Colombian in laws. They'd

1460
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: never seen it. They'd never seen it, so we watched it.

1461
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. I'm gonna go with the cliches

1462
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: thing too, dude. It's a sentimental piece for me. I'm

1463
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: not telling you it's the best. It's just the best

1464
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: in my heart, Brian cam what's left of the cold,

1465
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: dark place where a beating heart used.

1466
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: To be until the rich white kids at Old Marietta

1467
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: stole it.

1468
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: From a Christmas story. They'll shoot your eye out, Fred Gilay.

1469
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: You know what? Okay?

1470
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: As a kid, I hold listen what I just told you.

1471
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: I know that, but I'm not telling you it's the best.

1472
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's sentimental, but it's.

1473
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: Like the of overplayed movies. It's the Gang Bang. Oh

1474
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: oh yeah, d like I mean, they put it on

1475
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: twenty four hours in a row. It's literally the one

1476
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 3: I just I cringe when I see it, even though

1477
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: it's one of the best movies.

1478
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: Ever, because the most overplayed is the Charlie Brown one.

1479
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: That one they just they yeah, but that.

1480
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: Piano song is so bad?

1481
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: Is it? It?

1482
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 4: Really?

1483
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 5: Is?

1484
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: It?

1485
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: Really?

1486
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: Really?

1487
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: Is it really is?

1488
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: You know? I don't.

1489
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't really agree with that, but I again, I'm not.

1490
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm not denying any of that. I'm just saying one

1491
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: one showing once a year in my house. It's also

1492
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: Elf two by.

1493
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: The Well the nineties nostalgia and me my wife makes

1494
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: me watch this one called Holiday and Handcuffs every year

1495
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: with a C. Slater and Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

1496
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that one? I watched that one

1497
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: shout though, shouts though, how about an honorable mention? Can

1498
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: we agree on this one? Let's I bet you we

1499
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: can agree honorable mention for bad Sanna.

1500
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look bad?

1501
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: So oh come on, I'm I'm got the You got

1502
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: the Little Person, and then you got who the dude

1503
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: who banged Angelina Jolie for all those.

1504
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: Years, the dude Thorn?

1505
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Bernie Mack Bernie Max in that movie.

1506
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 3: Will Will you stand by the Arnold Swarzenegger Sinbad one?

1507
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: Speaking of Jay in my air? Would you stand by

1508
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: that One's just.

1509
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: Because you went on Sinbad's podcast doesn't mean I have

1510
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: to admit.

1511
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: I went on producer Jay's podcast.

1512
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 4: Thank you also Sinbad?

1513
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: All right?

1514
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: Jay?

1515
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: What's that movie called? You know?

1516
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: Sinbad? Jingle all the way?

1517
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: Thank you all.

1518
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: I am a Schwarzenegger Fiichionado. I have posters of him

1519
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: all over my room. I like a teenage girl. No,

1520
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't like that one.

1521
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: All right, I mean it's not it's not when the

1522
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: one react.

1523
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: Throwing up tube through some mercenaries gut and say let

1524
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: off some steam. Yeah, Ben, I'm not Si. Yes, I

1525
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: like you, Solly. That's why I'm gonna kill you.

1526
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: All right now the now's the portion on Spracus where

1527
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: we do slaps, all right, before we get Have you

1528
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: seen the ship?

1529
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: This might be the greatest Have you seen this ship

1530
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: in the history of seeing ship? Jay? Can I call

1531
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: an audible and bring up that Jamal charlo one since

1532
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: I forgot to do that earlier? Did you see him

1533
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: at the press conference against Dennis Hogan leading up this week?

1534
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: Did you see what we wire or post the pre

1535
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: uh with a hat on?

1536
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay, can you show this?

1537
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: Look at Jamal Charlo on the left and look at

1538
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 3: shot g Humpty hump on the right. Oh wow, do

1539
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Oh you know the guy on the

1540
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: right saying on do what you like? And if you

1541
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: missed it, he was the one who said just grab

1542
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: him in the biscuits.

1543
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: Do you understand that anyone twenty years old doesn't know

1544
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: who the guy on the right is.

1545
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a fantastic resemblance right there.

1546
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Lion's only brother.

1547
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 4: Lions only.

1548
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: And you see the two the chain he had on

1549
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: the post ight presser, No two lions coming off?

1550
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: Wow? All right, have you seen? We are going all

1551
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: around the globe? Look are you ready? I went everywhere?

1552
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: I went at Mongolia. All right, we're gonna start UFC DC.

1553
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: Did you see mack Makhood Murradov? Did you see this

1554
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: knockout on Trevor Smith? So good lord? The mouthpiece went flying,

1555
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: but so did Trevor Smith's soul. Can we got a

1556
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: replay on this? Jay?

1557
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 4: This is look at the angle?

1558
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

1559
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: Is this the angle is? If they're not facing one

1560
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: is at a right angle.

1561
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 4: And that's why that.

1562
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: One brought my kid to a fight.

1563
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: He got a souvenir's Trevor Smith's mouthpiece.

1564
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: Wow, look at that. Wow, that is damn.

1565
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 4: He whipped him around. Damn, he whipped him around.

1566
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: That wasn't the only mouthpiece that flew This weekend, I'm

1567
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 3: gonna take you to Aruba Fighting Championships. Are you ready

1568
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: for this? John Mark Howell?

1569
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: Look at this upper cut from hell sending the mouthpiece.

1570
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: Flying dude, sending the mouthpiece. That's like, that's like getting

1571
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: the bloody nose on the dead lift. It's a nice

1572
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: little ship popped.

1573
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: Huh.

1574
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: You ever go to a Ruba No?

1575
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 4: My wife, she said, super overrated.

1576
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: I once studied abroad there.

1577
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 4: That sounds about right.

1578
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: Then I married her. All right, let's keep it rolling

1579
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 3: this week, Luke. We take our m We take our

1580
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: mma musings to Bella Rous. Look at the in fight

1581
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: entertainment between fights here?

1582
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: Can we agree? There's nothing like Eastern Europe. There's nothing

1583
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: like that. Is this a sequel to Eyes Wide Shirt?

1584
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 3: What is going on here? I feel like I should

1585
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 3: be walking around Panti Liss with Deontay Wilder's mask.

1586
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: This is the intersection with MMA that they like. Is

1587
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: that Nicole kidman on the left. This is fantastic. I

1588
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: never saw that one kind of pitching a tent under

1589
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: the table here. This is not bad. Maybe this would

1590
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: be more of a holiday Easter event.

1591
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 4: But is this your ever Christmas movie?

1592
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, I think I found the two eggs. Yeah,

1593
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: there we go. You feeling it? You don't like it?

1594
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's five seconds? Can we move on?

1595
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 3: I can leave you alone and watch it all right? Hey,

1596
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna roll on to India. You want to see

1597
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 3: some cruiserweight boxing and India. Check out these two fat guys.

1598
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 4: This is where I was born.

1599
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 3: No head punches. Look at this guy go to the

1600
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: body downstairs all day. Plenty of good seats still available here.

1601
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 3: It looks like two producers on this show slug pbo India.

1602
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: Look at these two guys. They checked the spit bucket.

1603
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: Afterwards it was all gravy. Look at this.

1604
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 4: Look at this is intense.

1605
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: Second.

1606
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: He's not gonna he's not getting up, Jim.

1607
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: Look at he's The other guy's laughing because he also

1608
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: can't believe he went down.

1609
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: Not a single head punch there. That guy was going

1610
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: full liver.

1611
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 4: Why would you?

1612
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, look at that. Oh he's not

1613
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 3: He's that's it, that's it. Fight over?

1614
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: Wow? What are they fighting? And is that the basement

1615
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: where Kimbo Slice fought?

1616
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 4: Uh?

1617
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: Sean gannon no No, our studio is next door, Jay,

1618
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: are you in my ear right now.

1619
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 4: Saying don't shit?

1620
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure Look at this referee off it is he

1621
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: serving tables at the country club where Daniel.

1622
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: This guy was busting dishes just before this. But look

1623
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: at this guy's commitment to the body. Man, your body

1624
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: is banging, baby, you know how do you want it?

1625
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,479
Speaker 4: Do you want it?

1626
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: How does it feel?

1627
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: Hey, let's go back to d C. I'm circling the

1628
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 3: globe this week. Did you see the submission that Bryce

1629
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: Mitchell put on that sales only the second time in

1630
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 3: UFC history that the twister came out. DC said on

1631
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 3: the broadcast that that's the most painful move in wrestling.

1632
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he used a bicep grip. It's called it.

1633
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: It's called a guillotine. Actually, well it's it's a way

1634
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: to pin in wrestling. And then that was called a guillotine,

1635
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: so Eddie Bravo switched up the name so it wouldn't

1636
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: be any confusing.

1637
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: I think we need to call watch.

1638
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: Instead of using the c grip, he actually goes a

1639
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: swim er jacket. He goes to the bicep grip. Look

1640
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: at that.

1641
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: Oh god, how bad?

1642
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

1643
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: I mean I've played twister with chicks before, but I

1644
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 3: never pulled out that move.

1645
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Yeah, I'm glad you're not abusing women.

1646
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: What kind of a fucking statement is that I've never

1647
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: knocked I've never knocked a woman the fuck out playing.

1648
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: No, no, no, there's no knockout here.

1649
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: You're just wow. So Bryce smiss Did you see the

1650
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 3: interview afterwards? This guy's like a redneck Richard Gear. This

1651
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 3: guy's got charisma.

1652
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 4: He's amazing.

1653
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: By the way, do you remember his one request from

1654
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: Reebok No make him a Camo set up for Reebok right,

1655
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: Camo shorts, Camo shirt, Camo rash guard.

1656
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: How they has two point oh hero right here?

1657
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 3: All right, this one was sent into me by my

1658
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: man Gaffney on the staff. Here. This is an NFL

1659
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 3: fan fight that broke out, people bringing m M A

1660
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 3: into this. Look at this chick, but you see the

1661
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 3: multi clinch and the knees right there. Don't drop that

1662
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: tall boy. Look at the guy in the Cardinals sweatshirt.

1663
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, get her, get her? Okay, Yeah, it's

1664
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 3: not a very helpful. What method of do you think

1665
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 3: when they role play later the guy in the Cardinals sweatshirt,

1666
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: it'll be the girl, but you're the guy filming it.

1667
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: Look at him?

1668
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: Look at him?

1669
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: Wait, it's a was this Rams versus Cardinals?

1670
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: Is that what I'm.

1671
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 3: Singy's getting rammed?

1672
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: Wow? They're selling some big Cansas.

1673
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 4: Dude.

1674
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: This is why I don't go to football games anymore.

1675
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: It's just it's just heathens.

1676
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 2: Look at super fan number ninety nine putting it on

1677
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: her right now, Look at the guy.

1678
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: Look at the guy.

1679
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody, somebody break this up.

1680
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 3: Please?

1681
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: Look look at the guy. Look at the guy from

1682
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: the Jimmy Buffett concert. Oh my god, he's like cheese

1683
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: burger and paro. Even Rich Franklin cringe is watching this.

1684
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 3: Wow? Yeah? Who all right, we're gonna roll on here.

1685
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 3: I don't know where this is from, but you ever

1686
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: see those punch machines and people think they're tough, and

1687
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 3: you watch your girlfriend, Oh my god, who go Wow.

1688
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 4: Dude, that's like a metaphor for my career.

1689
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: Oh that hit can fight.

1690
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: Right, that's a nice punt. Look at this punch, broo them.

1691
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Do you think they didn't continue the video?

1692
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: But you think he went down into that?

1693
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: Uh as as Jesus Samara would say, hold.

1694
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: That, Oh my god, hold my soul. Look at this. Wow.

1695
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: I could watch this all day.

1696
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: Look, dude, that is a great punch. Unfortunately, Deontay Wilder

1697
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: punch off the front foot. I know I used that

1698
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: joke a lot, but I have I have had dates

1699
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: on like this.

1700
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yes I have. Wow.

1701
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well ba, so your twister descriptions. I find that

1702
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: the least surprising news.

1703
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: Imagine, all right, we're gonna roll on at you amateur

1704
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 3: wrestling with Luke. Soon you'll have children that'll be into it.

1705
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: Hopefully you'll be as jacked up and crazy as this

1706
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: dad watching his son there in the blue seen this one.

1707
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 3: Look at this. We're gonna restart it.

1708
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, kids, go his position? Did we edit this wrong?

1709
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: Can we get to the dad?

1710
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 3: What are we doing here? Yeah?

1711
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't need I don't need to see the wrestling

1712
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: from rest.

1713
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: She'll be a live fail for Jay in the back.

1714
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: He has to get his head.

1715
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: Remember before the joe Ja was like, we don't need

1716
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 3: to go over these videos. They're fine.

1717
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: He has to get his head out to the side here,

1718
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: which he does, and I actually come around the back

1719
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: like that.

1720
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: All right, all right, parents are cheering.

1721
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 3: Everything's going on good.

1722
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 4: I think he's got what they called the bar arm.

1723
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 3: Okay, here comes right to dad. He's he's in the bullpen.

1724
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: He's ready. Oh my god, get off my son.

1725
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 4: Wow.

1726
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: You know what though, I don't really agree with the dad.

1727
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 3: Now what is he mad about?

1728
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: Because look, he's gonna get his head's gonna pop. I'll

1729
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: show you his head's gonna pop through and he's gonna

1730
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: circle back.

1731
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 4: What you have to do to get this complete? This takedown?

1732
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you all doing back there? Here

1733
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 1: we go one more time.

1734
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I can't wait till you and Jay get on

1735
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 3: the mat as Jesus fuck.

1736
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. The head is gonna pop

1737
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: out in blue. Watch the guy in the head. Okay,

1738
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: there he goes. Fucking Lord, this is the worst highlight

1739
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: shit ever. Here he goes pops out. He's gonna circle

1740
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: around the back. Now he's got the other kids. Wait,

1741
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna pin and then crank. This should be over

1742
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: like that. He's cranking.

1743
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: Wow, that's all right, I see it now, I see it.

1744
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1745
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: The kid's arm is stuck like that.

1746
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he sucked it up. So that's his dad came in,

1747
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, and did the old You need to get

1748
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: him a backscratcher for Christmas. All right, Hey, let's keep

1749
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: this going here. You say, all we do is talk dongs.

1750
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: Here's some football for you. You love football, no dongs.

1751
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 3: Watch this save this guy makes in the soccer game.

1752
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what country it's in. We'll get that.

1753
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 3: Oh god, let damn dog. Oh my god, do you

1754
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 3: see this?

1755
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 4: It must be coincidence he found this one.

1756
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: What a save though, right, I mean, you know, the

1757
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 3: the downfalls will ever have kids, But this was great. Understand.

1758
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: We start the day I pre record dissected. We start

1759
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: with me trying to explain the intricacies of fighting, and

1760
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: we end up with dudes getting kicked in the ball.

1761
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: Well, not everybody gets kicked in the balls. Hey, it's

1762
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 3: the holiday season. People like they dress up their animals

1763
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: and bring them out in public, and then they do

1764
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: something dumb like they pee.

1765
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: Can we get to the last one here?

1766
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 3: Oh? My check is oil. That's fantastic.

1767
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: Look I got a pet monkey. I brought him out

1768
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: in public.

1769
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 4: Let me let me just not a monkey, it's an orangutang.

1770
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 3: Sorry sorry, sorry there.

1771
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: Wow, look at that bro.

1772
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: You ever see you ever see that the show Fox

1773
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: will do like it'd be like man versus beast. Yes,

1774
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: they would have some super jacked gymnast. They'd be like, okay,

1775
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: this gymnast and they showed us a orangu tang. He'd

1776
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: be all fat and lazy and shit, and they'd be like,

1777
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: this gymnast is you know where he's going though, you

1778
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: see that he's a primate.

1779
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 4: Why would he not.

1780
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: This gymnast is going to race across the monkey bars

1781
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: across with this with this primate, and you think, okay,

1782
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: well the primate should win, but he's all fat and lazy.

1783
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 4: This gymnast is super kank. That gymnast would.

1784
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: Get like a forty foot head start, and then the

1785
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: orangutang and like three motions would just smoke them.

1786
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: I mean, great story, but I get embarrassed when my

1787
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: dog puts his face in people's scratches and sniffs around

1788
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 3: this guy going right for it.

1789
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: I love this guy.

1790
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 4: You would sniff his hand out.

1791
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: I'd totally hang out with this guy. Address him in

1792
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: those yellow shorts.

1793
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: Fantastic would take that? You would take that? Orangutang Paul used.

1794
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: Go, that's my spirit animal. So what do you think

1795
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: that that was a good segment this week?

1796
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 3: Right?

1797
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 2: Have you seen that ship?

1798
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you know it's a good combo. You and I.

1799
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 4: It's a good combo because.

1800
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: I try to bring a serious, enlightening tone and then

1801
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: you just light your farts on fire.

1802
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Odds and Ends? Time you ready?

1803
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 4: Yes, it is time for odds and ends.

1804
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: Because you got You've got a bunch of other jobs.

1805
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 2: I gotta let you out. Give me your odds and end.

1806
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: By the way, shout up to Aspen Lad for the

1807
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 3: big win this week. After that pep talk and ufc

1808
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 3: DC in her corner, she looks like a title contender.

1809
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 3: She got it back on the tracks from that weird

1810
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 3: loss the.

1811
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 4: First two rounds. She did for the third.

1812
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 3: He's a potential savage at thirty five. I want to

1813
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: see her continue to How about the screaming to the

1814
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 3: point where she lost control A guy. That was a

1815
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 3: fun fight altogether, A lot of weird stuff going on,

1816
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 3: and Tito Ortiz did the business. Did you see how

1817
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 3: little people were in the crowd. I don't mean little people,

1818
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 3: I mean nobody in the crowd. How do you not

1819
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: paper that city of McCall in Texas when you've been

1820
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 3: building this fight up? There was like five hundred.

1821
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 2: People in the crocket.

1822
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 4: And I'd be honest.

1823
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: So I do fifteen hours of radio a week, which

1824
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: means I do sixty segments. Last week I did one

1825
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: segment on it, and the only segment I did on

1826
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: it was mentioning Tito, saying Tito's like I could beat

1827
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: John Jones, and how it was stupid for MMA media

1828
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: to report on that.

1829
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't care about that fight. It wasn't rare.

1830
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: You're better than all of us, Luca.

1831
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 4: I'm not better than all of you. I'm better than

1832
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 4: anyone who watched it.

1833
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 2: By the way, Tito was in great shape.

1834
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 3: What is he? What is he?

1835
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 2: U isy?

1836
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1837
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: What is he doing?

1838
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,879
Speaker 4: He'd be the guy who just I mean, I just said.

1839
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 3: His body shape, all right.

1840
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything about that.

1841
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's in shape, but I mean, honestly, who gives.

1842
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 4: I just don't care. I don't care. It's not relevant

1843
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 4: to me at all.

1844
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: So it must to be fun to be married to.

1845
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I have a distinguished palette, unlike you, I

1846
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: don't just Hey, what's this garbage?

1847
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1848
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 3: What's show the Can you show the f T shirt

1849
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 3: and look at that?

1850
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: Distinguished? Only the best of that.

1851
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 3: By the way, do you know how the Megapowers ended?

1852
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck, Brian Campbell. It's a it's

1853
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: a it's a preview for you and I okay, it's

1854
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 3: a preview. It's gonna end badly for you.

1855
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 4: What's this?

1856
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

1857
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,839
Speaker 3: Does this banana peels and cigarette?

1858
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: But my name's Brian Campbell? That sounds like a delicious drink.

1859
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: Whyn't you just go to your other job already?

1860
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 4: What is it for me? Here's my odds and ends.

1861
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: Gordon Ryan faced off at Third Coast grappling with Bo Nickel.

1862
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: Bo Nickel is arguably one of the best state Penn State.

1863
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: That's right, three time national champion. His last two years

1864
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: at Penn State, he didn't lose a single match. He's

1865
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: trying out for the Olympics and in the preparation for that.

1866
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: Let's see, you were supposed to get Hudelpho Vieira the mment.

1867
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: Well he's a jiu jitsu grab but he's now an

1868
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: MME fighter for UFC. He fell out. Then it was

1869
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: going to be Herbert Santos, and then he fell out.

1870
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: So they had Bo Nickel, who's brilliant, never trained jiu jitsu.

1871
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 1: They modified the rules. Bo Nickel threw Gordon Ryan around,

1872
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: but once I went to the ground, he got somebity quickly.

1873
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, Brian Campbell, expect to see more

1874
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: of these wrestling jiu jitsu crossovers in these weird main

1875
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: events where the rules are just out of nothing. They

1876
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: just kind of make them up and they kind of

1877
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: adjust him because I bet you there's a market for that.

1878
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 4: How big, I don't know, but Big.

1879
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: Reminds me of Kimbo Petrozzelli when they paid him not

1880
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 3: to take the fight to the ground. Did you see

1881
01:10:58,640 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 3: bow Nickel suplex?

1882
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 4: That was fit? It was really well.

1883
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: You had you had you had Gordon Ryan been over

1884
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: trying to do something called donkey Guard.

1885
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 4: You ever heard of that?

1886
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's the Suture playbook. Might as well be

1887
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: it's from Jeff Glover. He did a he tried to

1888
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: do Donkey Guard and he got launched.

1889
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 3: Way that orangutang a clip. It kind of reminds me

1890
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 3: of that scene, the scene in Paul Hogan what's it uh,

1891
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 3: Crocodile Dune, Yes, where he didn't know if the if

1892
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: the person he was about to kiss was a man

1893
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 3: or woman. So he just's, oh, eighties, that's Phil's Phil.

1894
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,480
Speaker 4: Nothing like eighties casual discrimination.

1895
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: That's great, that's great, nothing like that. Have you ever

1896
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: gone but we got a little bit.

1897
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 4: Of time left. Have you ever gone back and watched

1898
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 4: like eighties classes? Bad?

1899
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: Bad in terms of you? They're like, they're like, all,

1900
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 3: have you ever gone back and watching one? They're like,

1901
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 3: I watched Revenge of the Nerds. Revenge of the Nerds

1902
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: is literally pro rape. I'm not exaggerating. It's super pro rape.

1903
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: Where the pie?

1904
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: What's what's the one where the uh where the guy

1905
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: has to get the panties of the girl and it's like,

1906
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: what's her face? Sixteen cans, sixteen candles? Pro rape. He's like, Oh,

1907
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: she's asleep, why don't you take her home? She'll never

1908
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: know it's me I'm like, what, I couldn't like, dude,

1909
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: it's you know, and then they had the Asian character.

1910
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: They had had a kind of a fucked up name.

1911
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 3: Hey, we came from different times, Luke A right, I'm

1912
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: not saying those times were better.

1913
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it in real time. Now you

1914
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: can go back and you watch this an adult, you're like, whoa,

1915
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: I went.

1916
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 3: Back and watched the andrewdized Clay comedy. Specially you know

1917
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 3: that big one at the peak of his career, that uh,

1918
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: the one where he comes out to the uh to

1919
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: the Allman Brothers song and then he does I mean,

1920
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 3: it's just it's so it's so freaking in another from

1921
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 3: another time that it's uh.

1922
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 4: Even Eddie Murphy specials.

1923
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: You ever seen Eddi Murphy specials like Hilarias, It's like

1924
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: twenty minutes on how how much he dislikes gay people.

1925
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it was a different time, and I'm and

1926
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: I'm glad we've cleaned it up. Okay, that's why people

1927
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 3: come to the show, because they know, have you seen

1928
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 3: this ship is like a time warp to the old days?

1929
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so.

1930
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: All right, Well, well that in mind, as always, please

1931
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: like the video, subscribe to the channel.

1932
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 4: We can follow us on social media.

1933
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: There's my stuff and then of course Morning Combat is

1934
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: on Instagram as well as you Tube.

1935
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: You can check out my dms for the latest chef

1936
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 2: tanko picks.

1937
01:12:55,720 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: Yep, you're gonna get us fired in any event. That's

1938
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: how you can follow us on social media. Please please,

1939
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: please please help us get to our goal. Tell your friends,

1940
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: spread the word, subscribe to the channel.

1941
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 4: We're almost there. We really appreciate if you guys can

1942
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 4: put us over the hump.

1943
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah to forty five week, let's do this.

1944
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Speaker 2: I'll going to Vegas on Wednesday.

1945
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Speaker 1: I am not going to be going, so I'll be

1946
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Speaker 1: doing my post fight special on my YouTube channel on

1947
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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Should be very fun, all right, all right,

1948
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Speaker 1: very good for Brian Campbell. I am Luke Thomas. Thank

1949
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Speaker 1: you guys so.

1950
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Speaker 2: Much for watching. Until then, may all of your gains

1951
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Speaker 2: be loyal