WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Pete Buttigieg Talks 2nd Ave Subway Project, Electric Vehicles, Derailments, Christian Values + More

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<v Speaker 1>Wake that ass up in the morning the Breakfast Club Morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is dj n V Charlemagne to God. We are

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<v Speaker 1>to Breakfast Club. Angel RII is with us as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a special guess in the building, the

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<v Speaker 1>US Secretary of Transportation.

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Boody Judge. Welcome back. Thank you, Secretary Pie, it's

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<v Speaker 2>good to be back.

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<v Speaker 3>Good news here.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you came in, I was talking about Secretary Pete

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<v Speaker 1>about his cars, and you were saying that I see

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<v Speaker 1>some way that he likes the new Mustang, the electric Mustang,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you They said you were in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I thought we should practice what we preached.

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<v Speaker 3>We're encouraging electric vehicles, and I thought we ought to

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<v Speaker 3>do that too. So our security detail we had them

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<v Speaker 3>get a Mustang Mochi, which is how I usually get

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<v Speaker 3>around when I'm in Washington, and it's great. My favorite

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<v Speaker 3>part is when they took delivery of it. Part of

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<v Speaker 3>what standard. You know, they get the keys, they get

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<v Speaker 3>the paperwork, and then they get a gas card for

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<v Speaker 3>buying gas, you know, to reimburse that. And they're never

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<v Speaker 3>going to need that because it doesn't need any gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Electric taxpayers will never have to pay for a drop

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<v Speaker 3>a gas going into that car.

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<v Speaker 2>Question, does the Secretary of Transportation have to pay for transportation?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get free calls and stuff like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, it depends. So if I'm on personal travel then

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<v Speaker 3>then yeah, obviously that's that's out of my pocket. If

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<v Speaker 3>it's work travel or if there's you know, security you

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<v Speaker 3>need to get around, then it's a little different. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean usually you know, you get free calls. I

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<v Speaker 3>do not get free cars. No, Like I've like, we

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<v Speaker 3>got a minivan that that you know, if I'm dropping

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<v Speaker 3>the kids off daycare, that's just our our family car.

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<v Speaker 3>You know we got I never thought I'd be a

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<v Speaker 3>minivan guy, and then you got kids. We very much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually great. Yeah, And it's it's a plug in

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<v Speaker 3>that one plugs in too, so you can it's a hybrid,

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<v Speaker 3>so you plug it in, you get maybe thirty forty

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<v Speaker 3>miles off of the electric and if you go any

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<v Speaker 3>further than that, like if we're on a road trip,

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<v Speaker 3>then it switches to game.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get a cooler car. You can get like

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<v Speaker 2>an electric escalade or something. You got the electric suv.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to drive a menis that out? Act

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<v Speaker 2>like you're from Indiana all your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm literally from Indiana and I'm literally a dad.

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<v Speaker 3>We're Midwestern dads. I got two kids. I never thought

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<v Speaker 3>i'd be a minivan guy, but I gotta say it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of that's kind of the right answer for us

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm meant to ask this before we get jump into it.

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<v Speaker 1>When you talk about the electric grid, right when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to all these electric CAUs they're hopefully focusing I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in the next five years they want all calls

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<v Speaker 1>to turn over to electric. Do we have a strong

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<v Speaker 1>enough grid to hold all those electric cars and all

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<v Speaker 1>the electric battery cause and everything that we need, and

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<v Speaker 1>also when people are driving from state to state, is

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<v Speaker 1>enough to make sure that these people won't run out

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<v Speaker 1>of electric and be on the side of the roads.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So the honest answer is we cannot run tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 3>cars on today's grid. But the other part of the

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<v Speaker 3>answer is that's why we're upgrading the grid and the

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<v Speaker 3>chargers so presidence goes. By the end of this decade,

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<v Speaker 3>we want half of new car sales to be electric.

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<v Speaker 3>We think we can get there. It's not for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not for everybody. Overnight prices still need to come down,

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<v Speaker 3>but we think we can get to half by the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the decade. We also have to have about

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<v Speaker 3>half a million chargers around the country by the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the decade, and we're funding that. Part of what

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<v Speaker 3>was in the President's Infrastructure Law is about seven and

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<v Speaker 3>a half billion dollars that we're using to really do

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<v Speaker 3>two things. One is where you're talking about, where you

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<v Speaker 3>go out on a road trip, you know there's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a gas station. We got to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>when you go on a road trip, you know there's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a charging station. But the other piece

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<v Speaker 3>is we got to make sure there's community charging. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you live in a single family home where you

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<v Speaker 3>got a garage, then it's easy. You can just plug

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<v Speaker 3>in your wall. At our house in Michigan, we just

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<v Speaker 3>plug it in a regular wallplug. But if you're in

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<v Speaker 3>an apartment building, if you're in a dense area, and

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you're in a low or middle income area,

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<v Speaker 3>then it might not yet be profitable for companies to

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<v Speaker 3>put in chargers. So we've got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>we accelerate that process, put a little incentive in to

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<v Speaker 3>make the economics move in the right direction so that

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<v Speaker 3>everybody has access because then they have a chance at

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<v Speaker 3>the savings that come from not having to buy gas.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's definitely a process the grid has to be

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<v Speaker 3>upgraded to. But remember it's also complicated and expensive to

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<v Speaker 3>move millions and millions and millions of gallons of liquid

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<v Speaker 3>fuel around this country every day. At the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, in the long run, it's more efficient to

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<v Speaker 3>move electrons through a so to speak, through transmission lines

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<v Speaker 3>than it is to move liquids around. But you know

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<v Speaker 3>this is not going to happen overnight. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be years. We're underway, we're working out.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to one questions before we jump inc the

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<v Speaker 1>electric cost stuff, because this is something that I'm into.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that those batteries are just as bad.

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<v Speaker 2>For the environment as gasoline and fuel. Is Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>No? But there are issues with them, uh, And a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the issues have to do with how the

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<v Speaker 3>materials that go into them are extracted. So we've got

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that they are extracted under good labor

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<v Speaker 3>conditions and their mind appropriately. We're trying to get more

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<v Speaker 3>of that done in the US. Under the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't care a lot about electric vehicles. As you know,

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<v Speaker 3>China got an edge, and China does not care about

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<v Speaker 3>things like mining, environmental conditions, or child labor, any of

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<v Speaker 3>those other issues. We do. And so we're working to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that we get more of these things sourced domestically.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a different set of problems, so that those

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<v Speaker 3>are issues we take them seriously. But the problem with

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<v Speaker 3>burning regular gas is it's causing the climate to change.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the problem that they were worried about on

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to batteries. Climate change is getting faster,

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<v Speaker 3>it's getting worse. Is real. People can pretend otherwise, and

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<v Speaker 3>I know there's a lot of oil and gas profits

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<v Speaker 3>to be protected by pretending otherwise. It's just it's just true.

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<v Speaker 3>We can see it all around us. And the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>part of the US economy. Of all these sectors of

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<v Speaker 3>the economy, the one that puts the most carbon pollution

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<v Speaker 3>into the air is transportation. So to me is transportation sector.

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<v Speaker 3>That means our goal has to be to try to

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<v Speaker 3>be the biggest part of the solution, and part of

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<v Speaker 3>that is cars, and big part of that is going electric.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question I had was Elon Musk was very mad

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<v Speaker 1>at you guys. Right, they said that he was giving

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<v Speaker 1>you guys the middle finger, that he wanted some tax rebates,

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys wouldn't give them the rebates, so he

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<v Speaker 1>decided to take the money off of his cars himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when the Tesla's were at his lowest at at

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<v Speaker 1>one time. What should your thought process on that?

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<v Speaker 3>And Elon Musk, Look, what they have built a Tesla

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<v Speaker 3>is extraordinary and that's part of why evs are available.

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<v Speaker 3>Push the market forward, biggest maker of vvs in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Our job is to try to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 3>industry as a whole does well, and we want to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that it does well in America with American workers.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously we care about workers having a free and

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<v Speaker 3>fair choice to join a union, which some auto companies

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<v Speaker 3>do and some auto companies do not. Past that, we're

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<v Speaker 3>not out to put a thumb on the scale. We

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<v Speaker 3>just need to make sure these cars are safe and

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<v Speaker 3>we want any business on American soil with American workers

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<v Speaker 3>making American cars to thrive.

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<v Speaker 4>Mayor Pete, you know one of the things that Mayor

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<v Speaker 4>Pete now, Secretary.

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<v Speaker 3>Pete, I'll always answer to Mayor and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Love that I think it really prepares you for where

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<v Speaker 5>you are now. I want to just commend you on

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that you've been one of the most consistent

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<v Speaker 5>administration voices.

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<v Speaker 4>That have been on this show.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, And I also think that it's really interesting

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<v Speaker 5>that other than that, the most times I hear about

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<v Speaker 5>you is when something went wrong in transport to and

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<v Speaker 5>nine times out of ten, your responsibility is to hold

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<v Speaker 5>the folks accountable. You didn't do it, for example, the

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<v Speaker 5>railroad derailments earlier this year, and it would love for

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<v Speaker 5>you to talk to the audience about how you responded

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<v Speaker 5>to the railroad administration responded to those derailments, the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that they happened regularly every day, but those in particular.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the one that god the most attention was in

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<v Speaker 3>February this year in Ohio there was a Norfolk Southern

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<v Speaker 3>train who was carrying hazardous materials. It derailed and it

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<v Speaker 3>sent up it in order to prevent an explosion, they

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<v Speaker 3>actually burned off some of the material that was in there. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 3>there were no fatalities there, but it was terrifying for

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<v Speaker 3>the town there, called East Palestine, and there was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of frustration, a lot of anger, and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of misinformation that really terrorized the community. And when that happened,

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<v Speaker 3>over time, I realized that we had to change the

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<v Speaker 3>way we approached these Normally, a Secretary of Transportation doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>go to an active HASTHMAD site or an active crash site,

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<v Speaker 3>not because people in this job don't care about the issue,

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<v Speaker 3>but because we have a National Transportation Board Safety Board.

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<v Speaker 3>It's designed to be independent. They do the investigation, we

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<v Speaker 3>do the policy. But what I found was people wanted

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<v Speaker 3>and needed to see a visible administration figure there, and

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<v Speaker 3>honestly I was a little slow to see the importance

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<v Speaker 3>of that given the misinformation that was going on. So

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that I had to get out there and

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<v Speaker 3>do something that was a little bit of a break

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<v Speaker 3>from the norm but was very important so that the

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<v Speaker 3>people who live in that community knew that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait a year for the NTSB report to

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<v Speaker 3>come out to know that we cared about them and

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<v Speaker 3>we were supporting. Now, to be clear, our department was

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground from the first hours of that incident.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like we weren't present or like we forgot,

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<v Speaker 3>but the information layer and the things that they were

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<v Speaker 3>being told as they had very legitimate questions like is

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<v Speaker 3>my house safe? Is the water safe? Which it was,

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<v Speaker 3>but they needed a testing to prove that is the

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<v Speaker 3>air safe. The community was so terrorized by that that

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<v Speaker 3>we had to take additional steps to get good information there.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the other thing that's really important. When I

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<v Speaker 3>went out there, I wasn't just there to show my face.

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<v Speaker 3>I was there to talk about safety reforms that we need.

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<v Speaker 3>That incident woke up a lot of Americans to something

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<v Speaker 3>people didn't know, which is that all along we have

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<v Speaker 3>had every single day on average to Arouilda, were about

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<v Speaker 3>a thousand to rail onents a year in this country,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's nothing new. In fact, it used to be more.

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<v Speaker 3>They came down from many thousands a year because of regulations.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't always want to hear about regulations. Regulations aren't

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<v Speaker 3>always popular if they make us safer. And so right now,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a bill sitting in Congress called the Railway Safety Act,

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<v Speaker 3>bipartisan bill that would give my department more power to

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<v Speaker 3>hold these railroad companies accountable. It would allow us to

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<v Speaker 3>increase the fines to something that would really get their attention,

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<v Speaker 3>because right now, a multi billion dollar corporation might not

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<v Speaker 3>really care that much about the fines at the level

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<v Speaker 3>that we're allowed to assess if we catch them in

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<v Speaker 3>a violation other measures around the physical safety of the

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<v Speaker 3>tank cars that these chemicals move in, And it's just

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there, and some of the same members of Congress

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<v Speaker 3>who couldn't wait to get on TV to try to

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<v Speaker 3>make a part of an issue out of this still

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<v Speaker 3>haven't gone on the record on whether they're four or

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<v Speaker 3>against it. By February, it's going to be a year

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<v Speaker 3>since that crash happened. And again, there are other derailments,

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<v Speaker 3>thankfully usually not as serious, but there are other derailments

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<v Speaker 3>happening every day. We need those enforcement tools, we need

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<v Speaker 3>that stepped up action, and we're doing everything we can

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<v Speaker 3>under the laws as it exists, but we need Congress

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<v Speaker 3>to do more too.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a limit with the cars that the actual

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<v Speaker 1>trains can carry, because anybody that lives in seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>to seven Virginia knows that those trains are going for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen to twenty minutes, So is there a limit that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we break it up so you wouldn't have that

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<v Speaker 1>many disriyments.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not, but we're looking at the safety issues of that,

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<v Speaker 3>because now you've got trains that are a mile long,

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<v Speaker 3>two miles long, three miles long. It is amazing. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is another thing we're working on right now. There's

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<v Speaker 3>actually no legal requirement on how many people need to

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<v Speaker 3>be staffing that train. The railroad industry. Bobby has been

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<v Speaker 3>pushing to have it be down to one. Imagine one

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<v Speaker 3>person on a train that's three miles long. We see

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<v Speaker 3>the back of it, no, I mean we take you

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<v Speaker 3>an hour to walk to the back of it. So

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<v Speaker 3>we were putting through a rule that would establish a

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<v Speaker 3>minimum staffing standard. But we're also looking at some of

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<v Speaker 3>the safety implications of trains being that long. Then you

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<v Speaker 3>have the community implications when I'm in especially in smaller communities,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have these railroad crossings and you get stuck

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<v Speaker 3>behind it twenty minutes and it's not crazy for your commute,

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<v Speaker 3>but sometimes that's an ambulance, you know, Sometimes that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>a safety issue. Somebody really needs to get there. But

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<v Speaker 3>we're also changing that. So we have another part that

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<v Speaker 3>I love the Presence Infrastructure Plan is we have dollars

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<v Speaker 3>for railroad crossing elimination. Now we can't get all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's one hundreds of thousands of these, but we

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<v Speaker 3>can go to some of the places. We were in

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<v Speaker 3>North Dakota and forced North Dakota. They've been trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of this railroad crossing since I think nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety one. Everybody in town when we went there and

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<v Speaker 3>knew about the spot we were talking about. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's forty first Street that just cuts off one part

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<v Speaker 3>of town where the university is, from another part of town.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're finally we brought the funding that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>allow them to eliminate that crossing. We're in Orangeburg, South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>You know a lot about orange We're with the Congressman

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<v Speaker 3>Cliburn there celebrating work that's going to help there where

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<v Speaker 3>you have highways and railways that cut people off. So

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<v Speaker 3>in addition to holding the railroads accountable, we're also looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the physical infrastructure here. Now I would be remiss

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<v Speaker 3>if I did not mention that as we speak, House

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans are pushing cuts to a program called CHRISSY, the

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<v Speaker 3>Consolidated Rail Infrastructure Safety Improvement Program, which is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the main sources of federal dollars we use to improve

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<v Speaker 3>the safety of our railroads. I would argue that now

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<v Speaker 3>is the time to double down on that, not to

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<v Speaker 3>cut it. And you're going to hear me making a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of noise about this as they're deciding how to vote.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the other thing you brought up East Palestine,

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<v Speaker 5>which is not exactly the same as what's happening in

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<v Speaker 5>the Middle East and Palestine is conflict. There are a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of folks in the community who feel very strongly

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<v Speaker 5>about the amount of four and eight dollars that are

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<v Speaker 5>going overseas to support but aren't feeling that same type

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<v Speaker 5>of aid and relief in our own communities. Department of

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<v Speaker 5>Transportation is responsible for some of the relief that can

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<v Speaker 5>be provided to the community. So can you talk a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit about what you all are doing in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're focused on what we can do with the

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<v Speaker 3>federal dollars that have been entrusted to us to make

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<v Speaker 3>everyday life better. It's part of why I'm here in

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<v Speaker 3>New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So we've got the Hudson Tunnel. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of hundreds of thousands of people count on this

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<v Speaker 3>to get their communities from here to New Jersey and beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one hundred years old. And if there was a

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<v Speaker 3>problem that took that tunnel out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Service, it's one hundred years old than one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hundred years old, I think it was. It was finished

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<v Speaker 3>when Teddy Roosevelt was present.

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<v Speaker 2>Connect new jurority dependentation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you've probably been through it very very often, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're going through century old infrastructure. We got one

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<v Speaker 3>in Baltimore that that we're redoing. It will be known

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<v Speaker 3>as the Frederick Douglas Tunnel. Right now, it's known as

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<v Speaker 3>the Baltimore and Potomac Tunnel. Well, he said, the Hudson

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<v Speaker 3>Hudson Yeah, yeah, East River Tunnel needs some work too,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're working on that. So and this is a

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<v Speaker 3>major I mean the Hudson Tunnel piece alone, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be one of the biggest public works projects in modern

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<v Speaker 3>American history.

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<v Speaker 2>The twenty ninety ten million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just the start we've got. We've got billions more

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<v Speaker 3>identified in our transit programs, and then we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have more announcements to make about that. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be billions. But yeah, this is two hundred ninety two

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<v Speaker 3>million dollar piece that's gonna do the concrete casing around

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<v Speaker 3>Hudson Yards that that's a big piece of it because

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<v Speaker 3>we really need it. People count on it every day,

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<v Speaker 3>whether they think about it or not. In fact, our

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<v Speaker 3>goal is that people don't have to think about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not thinking about infrastructure, if you're not thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about whether there's a hole in the road that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to screw up your car, or whether your train's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be late because there's a problem in the tunnel,

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<v Speaker 3>then you can think about whatever else you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>in life. You can think about your job, you can

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<v Speaker 3>think about your kids, you can think about your.

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<v Speaker 2>Faith, especially when you all that traffic that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to cause because of the construction while we're doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what I had in mind.

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<v Speaker 5>But the other thing is if you put back on

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<v Speaker 5>your mayor p heat, it's not just folks getting to work.

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<v Speaker 4>There are folks who are going to work on these projects.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and that's the because, look, some of these projects

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<v Speaker 3>are going to take a while before they're done, but

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<v Speaker 3>even during that period, you're talking about where things are

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<v Speaker 3>you know, delayed or backed up. The jobs that that's creating,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're working to make sure that that there's fair

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<v Speaker 3>access to those jobs. We've heard so many stories from

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<v Speaker 3>from communities and people who look at you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>project finally comes to their neighborhood and they say great,

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<v Speaker 3>but nobody working on this project looks like they're from

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<v Speaker 3>this neighbor.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad is the main one with the bullhorn, this

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<v Speaker 4>bother yea.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've got local higher preferences that that we're now

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<v Speaker 3>able to do under the law. We've been working with

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<v Speaker 3>project labor agreements and community benefit agreements. I was in

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<v Speaker 3>LA their program called Higher LAX specifically for people who

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<v Speaker 3>are from the same zip code as Lax to get

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<v Speaker 3>into these building trade jobs. And some of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some of them had had been homeless in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>some of them had had an involvement in the justice system,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're now making good money educating their kids, buying

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<v Speaker 3>a home. I mean, these are transformational opportunities when you

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<v Speaker 3>get some of these construction jobs. So we're really excited

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<v Speaker 3>about that. Will it take so some of the projects

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<v Speaker 3>we can do in one construction season, that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be years.

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<v Speaker 1>Four years more minimal casing, so the concrete casing we

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<v Speaker 1>think they do in about three years other parts of

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<v Speaker 1>it are going to go well into the twenty thirties.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just that big of a vision when you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the overall connection of what's called the Gateway linking

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<v Speaker 3>all the way there. But that's that's part of what

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<v Speaker 3>we know you have to do. You have to have

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<v Speaker 3>a portfolio of projects from ones are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>done by this year to ones that you know some

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<v Speaker 3>other Transportation secretary is going to get to cut the

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<v Speaker 3>ribbon on one day. But that also means a pipeline

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<v Speaker 3>of work you can expect, and you know, some of

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<v Speaker 3>these are a long time coming. The other big one

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<v Speaker 3>that we're excited about that were announcing the Second Avenue subway,

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<v Speaker 3>extending that out to one hundred and twenty fifth Street.

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<v Speaker 3>That neighborhood has been asking for decades to get that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of subway access and we're finally able to get

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<v Speaker 3>it done with this kind of fun day and it's

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's going to change lives. Yes, the job's

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<v Speaker 3>working on it, but also just the jobs that people

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be able to have because they can

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<v Speaker 3>take advantage of the Transit.

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary p There was a rumor that that's been going

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<v Speaker 1>on probably since I've been alive that in any state

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<v Speaker 1>that you're in, if the roads are bad and you

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<v Speaker 1>hit a pothole, you can send the bill to your

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<v Speaker 1>local or state official and they were replenishing money.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>I would not bank on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why people say it every time, because

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<v Speaker 1>if they say, if you get a flat tie, because

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<v Speaker 1>if we pay for the roads and it is a

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<v Speaker 1>pothole and image my tie, that there was a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get your money back, But that's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>Not in any place that I've ever worked as mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>My sworn enemy was potholes. Right. Mayors hate potholes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>because you see them and you get calls about them,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To fix them, and I'll destroy your call.

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<v Speaker 3>So one other thing, I got it, Yes, But they

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<v Speaker 3>called the pothole tax, right, So sometimes people are paying

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<v Speaker 3>so much in terms of the cost that you then

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<v Speaker 3>have to take on because the road's not in good shape.

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<v Speaker 3>You would have been better off, obviously, would all be

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<v Speaker 3>better off if the roads were better, which is why

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<v Speaker 3>we're fixing the roads. And the single biggest piece of

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<v Speaker 3>all the funding we have across is trillion dollars. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that the biggest individual set of investments ties back

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<v Speaker 3>to the roads and the bridges that go with it,

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<v Speaker 3>but also we're trying to make the roads last longer.

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<v Speaker 3>We just cut the ribbon at a facilit We actually

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<v Speaker 3>have a research facility inside of the dot. We're belonging

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<v Speaker 3>to the dot. It's in Virginia. We have a few

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<v Speaker 3>research facilities, but this one. One of the things I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a test bed where they've laid in different

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<v Speaker 3>types of pavement and concrete. If you look at it

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<v Speaker 3>from in a cross section, that's like a layer cake,

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<v Speaker 3>and we have three hundred censors through it, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be able to monitor and measure how it

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<v Speaker 3>responds to different weather conditions. They have machinery that can

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<v Speaker 3>test an eyebeam or a piece of concrete until it

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<v Speaker 3>fails by putting one hundred thousand pounds of pressure on

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<v Speaker 3>it or simulating a million trucks over the course of

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<v Speaker 3>years and years in an accelerated way. So we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to be smarter with the technology so that this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>lasts longer. The big problem is in the spring. What

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<v Speaker 3>happens is, especially if you're anywhere north of Well certainly

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere like New York or where I come from. The

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<v Speaker 3>freeze thaw cycle means you get some water, it gets

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<v Speaker 3>into those cracks, then it freezes, it expands, it starts

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<v Speaker 3>to crack the surface, then it melts. Then you get

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<v Speaker 3>more water getting in there, and it gets worse and worse.

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<v Speaker 3>We think we can be much much smarter with our

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<v Speaker 3>materials and with our technology. I know this isn't considered

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<v Speaker 3>the sexiest thing, but I love the potential of just

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<v Speaker 3>making our pavement more durable because it means less potholes,

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<v Speaker 3>and it means our taxpayer money goes further so we

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<v Speaker 3>can do more good projects.

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<v Speaker 2>Question about the Hudson Tunnel again. With those changes, when

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<v Speaker 2>that increase the price of traveling, will metro cards go

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<v Speaker 2>up again?

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<v Speaker 3>No, at least not as a result of what we're funding.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the plans are for MTA or

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<v Speaker 3>how they're thinking about their fares. I know congestion pricing,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a state project, that's part of how they're

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<v Speaker 3>planning to fund some of their work, but no, part

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<v Speaker 3>of what we're trying to do is provide more of

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<v Speaker 3>the federal funding because you couldn't raise fares high enough

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<v Speaker 3>to cover the cost of these, I just can't do

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, fifteen to twenty billion dollar project on

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<v Speaker 3>the strength of the fares. There's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>money to go around people to stop. You couldn't keep

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<v Speaker 3>using it. That's why there has to be a federal role.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, I think it's fair game for

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<v Speaker 3>there to be a federal role because even if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't use that tunnel every day, we're all living in

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<v Speaker 3>an economy where if that tunnel was out of service,

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<v Speaker 3>that would impact the economy all the way back to

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<v Speaker 3>our house in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the other things that I think is important.

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<v Speaker 5>We of course saw the Supreme Court decimate affirmative action

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<v Speaker 5>for higher education earlier this year during the summer. I

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<v Speaker 5>know that a day program at SDA took some hits

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<v Speaker 5>as well. This attorney that's on these cases is relentless

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<v Speaker 5>about it. Are you at all concerned about the impacts

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<v Speaker 5>on the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program at DOT and how

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<v Speaker 5>that might impact even some of the companies who are

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<v Speaker 5>working on projects around the infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>I am. They're coming after our DV program too. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>we believe that program is not just good policy, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's legally sound. We're going to fight for it. We

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<v Speaker 3>know that it's made a difference in terms of people

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<v Speaker 3>getting access to these jobs and opportunities that come with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just yesterday I was speaking to the National Association of

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<v Speaker 3>Minority Contractors. They are gearing up, getting ready, and by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, what they want is a fair shot to compete.

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<v Speaker 3>But these are businesses that have been you know, over

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<v Speaker 3>the years, you look in the past, systematically excluded the

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<v Speaker 3>whole basis of the dB program. The reason why it

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<v Speaker 3>has legal footing is that there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>proof of the disparities that have opened up. And when

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<v Speaker 3>these businesses do get a fair shot to compete, they

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<v Speaker 3>can do amazing work and then they create jobs as

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<v Speaker 3>they go. So, whether we're talking about AAA to A,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a small business Administration program, or our own

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<v Speaker 3>programs that go under the flagship at DBE, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to keep pushing because we believe in them. We're doing matchmaking.

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<v Speaker 3>You think it's like speed dating between investors and businesses

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 3>that want to grow in this way, we're doing matchmaking

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<v Speaker 3>between people who are building transit and transportation projects and

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<v Speaker 3>the businesses that hope to bid on it. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just. It's not just you know, if you're in

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<v Speaker 3>heavy construction, it could be you could have an accounting

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<v Speaker 3>or legal services or professional services business that could benefit

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<v Speaker 3>from some of the opportunities. We even upped our own

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 3>goal for the federal contracts from our department, the DOT.

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<v Speaker 3>We upped it to twenty one percent from a category

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<v Speaker 3>called sdb's the small Disavantaged Businesses. And we beat that goal,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're looking at what we can do to turn

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<v Speaker 3>the diary higher. So we really believe in this work.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's coming under attack. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 3>those attacks are legally sound. So we're gonna push.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you about some some political stuff

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<v Speaker 2>going on. How do you feel working with the news

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<v Speaker 2>speak at a house, Mike Johnathan when you hate Gaith.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's my job to try to work with anybody,

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<v Speaker 3>so I will. It's kind of tough now, yeah, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 3>we're joking earlier about my minivan, like it's a strange

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<v Speaker 3>feeling to be driving our kids are twin two year

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<v Speaker 3>old to daycare, driving past the Capitol, looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>dome of the Capitol, knowing that under it sits a

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<v Speaker 3>speaker who thinks that my marriage ought to be against

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<v Speaker 3>the laws. I mean not not just not being in

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<v Speaker 3>favor of marriage, which most people in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Get now, but the anti gay conversion therapy.

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 3>The conversion therapy, these laws. I mean, I don't I

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<v Speaker 3>don't get it. But uh, but maybe he I don't know,

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe we can get through to this guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure I've ever met him, so would you.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to do?

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<v Speaker 5>We haven't, Like, where did he even come from? Like

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<v Speaker 5>fifty two rounds later.

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.360
<v Speaker 3>They went through a lot of different steps to get

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<v Speaker 3>to this speaker. But but again, you know, my job

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<v Speaker 3>is to try to work with anybody. Look, I was

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<v Speaker 3>a gay mayor in Indiana when Mike Pence was the governor,

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 3>and and I fought him on on those issues, but

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I also worked with him on other issues because working

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<v Speaker 3>together on the economy was the right thing to do

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.400
<v Speaker 3>for the city. So it's, uh, he's got departmentalized.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he takes it a step further than Mike PINNs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he did. The criminalization of gay sex is

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<v Speaker 2>what he talks about. He says, you know, homosexuality led

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<v Speaker 2>to the fall of the Roman Empire, Like that's that's

0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 2>a bit different. I think that's a step further than

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Pinnce.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he seems exceptionally committed to that ideology. And I

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 3>don't know how you reach somebody like that, you know,

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 3>I saw somebody ask him about his worldview and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, pick up a Bible and read it, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's my worldview. But when I pick up, first of all,

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 3>this country was established by people who didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>live under other people's interpretation of their own religion. But

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<v Speaker 3>also as a Christian, I pick up a Bible and

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<v Speaker 3>I get to a place like Proverbs twenty nine, the

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<v Speaker 3>righteous man knows the cause of the poor, and the

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<v Speaker 3>wicked regardeth it not. And then I'm thinking about the

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<v Speaker 3>Speaker of the House who went out of his way

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<v Speaker 3>to be against the child tax Credit, which when President

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's American Rescue Plan expanded the child tax credit cut

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<v Speaker 3>child poverty in half, and when they let it expire,

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 3>child poverty doubled. So we know that it was a

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<v Speaker 3>cause and effect. And I just Reverend Barber, William Barber,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody I have a lot of respect for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He sometimes talks about how you see some of these

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 3>figures out there who have, As he puts it, they talk,

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 3>they say so much about what God says so little,

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<v Speaker 3>and so little about what God says so much. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, but we'll see if we can get through

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<v Speaker 3>to these folks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interested though, right, because you're a politician,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you're still a human at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day. So that's what you gave was very politically

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 2>correct answer. But when you and your husband are sitting around,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversations got to be a lot different. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy said that same sex relations are the dark

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<v Speaker 2>harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy that could doom even

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<v Speaker 2>the strongest republic. Like, I'm trying to figure out, are

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<v Speaker 2>there are any there anything that disqualifies you from being

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<v Speaker 2>a politician nowadays? Obviously nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I look at some of the folks running

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<v Speaker 3>around that house Republican conference, were above and beyond you

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 3>know that kind of stuff. But but yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the thing I don't understand is sleep. That's our family

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 3>he's talking about, you know. And I just got asked

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<v Speaker 3>about this yesterday too, and I was thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>chaos is not a bad word to use to describe

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 3>what it's like around bedtime at our house when we're

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 3>trying to get our kids ready for bed and we're

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 3>trying to feed them and there's spaghetti flying and uh,

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, one of them won't take their shoes off

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 3>and U and one of them needs a diaper change.

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 3>But like that's our family. Like that's a chaos that

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<v Speaker 3>is rooted in love. It's not dark, it's as beautiful,

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 3>it's it's and that is strengthening. I'm certain that every family, Uh, certainly,

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm certain that our family.

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Is part of.

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<v Speaker 3>What we have in mind when when we talk about

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 3>society needing protect people going about their lives, and I

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 3>think about all the other families that that are terrified

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 3>right now, and that that maybe you're not in as

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 3>comfortable a situation as we are. Where where you've got,

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, a governor threatening to take away your kids

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 3>because you took them to the doctor, to to to

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 3>to see if you could support them, because they're they're

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 3>questioning their identity. How terrifying that is. Do you lose

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 3>faith a little.

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Bit when you think about all the things that you

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and your husband are thinking, and do.

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:07.719
<v Speaker 3>You lose faith just a little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is our government, it's our government.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the only one we got. So if there's a

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 3>part of it that is disturbing or discouraging, you've got

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 3>to respond to that with the part of it you

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 3>believe it. I mean, I can't throw off my hands

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 3>and complain about the government when I've been given such

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 3>a prominent role in our government, right, I just have

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 3>to figure out how to use it to do the

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 3>most good for the most people, which is my job.

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, there are things that are discouraging. Then again,

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 3>there are things that are incredibly exciting. Some of the

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 3>projects that we're doing that people gave up on a

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 3>long time ago, or I mean, we go to a

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 3>lot of communities and they still don't believe that the

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 3>money's actually coming even when we're delivering it, because it's

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 3>taken so long that they start to give up. We

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 3>even got this done bipartisan, I mean, I don't think

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>we had I don't think we had Mike Johnson on board,

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 3>but we had some Republicans who crossed over and voted

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 3>with us to get some of this infrastructure stuff done.

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<v Speaker 3>So have we solved every problem? Definitely not, Or something's

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 3>going to get worse before they get better. Maybe, But

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 3>I believe in what we're doing, and I see good

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>things happening around.

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<v Speaker 5>Us looking forward to the twenty twenty four election. You're

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<v Speaker 5>in this role at dot Transportation Secretary. Have you thought

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 5>about if you'd want to serve in any other capacity

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 5>under another Biden Harrison administration. I know you're not supposed

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 5>to necessarily answer this, but you are really smart, have

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 5>a lot of skill sets that you developed in school

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 5>as well as as a mayor. There are so many

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 5>other entities and agencies that could utilize the way that

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 5>you think things through. Have you thought about any other

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 5>role that you'd want to serve in.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty absorbed just in the day job that I've got.

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I love public service, and I serve as the pleasure

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 3>of the president. I know that, you know, the job

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing now is not the kind of.

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 4>Job you can do forever answer my question, But.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think it's it's got to be the best

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 3>job in the federal government right now because we're building

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 3>things that that we you know, we're building the things

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 3>like my kids are going to be counting on fifty

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 3>years from now. You know, fifty years from now, my

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 3>kids will be going through the Hudson Tunnel. That that

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 3>that we're going to be starting construction on today and

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 3>being able to be at the forefront of some of

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 3>that work is incredibly rewarding. So so yeah, I mean,

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 3>the only honest answer your question is, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Biden and Heareth is still a winning ticket?

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I gotta be careful I talk about it

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 3>just because I'm here as secretary, I'm not supposed to

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 3>talk campaigns. But but what I will say is I

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 3>believe in the President and the Vice president. I believe

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 3>in the work we're doing, and I believe in the

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 3>results that we're getting. I mean, the I I get

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 3>that in so many ways, it's been a rough few

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 3>years for everybody, and I get that we're still kind

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 3>of coming out of some darkness from COVID to what

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 3>was going on earlier with inflation, to just the political

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 3>upheaval and everything that we're seeing in Congress and then

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 3>the former president. But look at what's happened, like take

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 3>aviation right right now, we've got a lot of frustration

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 3>with airlines not being able to keep up with the

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 3>tickets they're selling. By the way, it made a lot

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 3>of progress this year, cancelation's down below normal, still very expensively,

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, but that's because the demand has been going up. Right,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 3>it was only two and a half years ago that

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<v Speaker 3>the big conversation about airlines was are they going to

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<v Speaker 3>go out of business? The big conversation was how much

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 3>taxpayer funding do we need to put together to make

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 3>sure that the US aviation sector doesn't collapse? And that

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 3>was less than three years ago. It's you know, it's

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>November right now, Folks are starting to think about holiday shopping,

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Christmas presents. Two years ago, that was just two years ago.

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 3>We were looking at news stories of ships waiting their

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>turn off the West Coast and the supply chains were

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<v Speaker 3>so backed up. People were saying Christmas is gonna be canceled. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>we figured it out, We got through it. We actually

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<v Speaker 3>had an all time record high that year in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of retail sales. But those kinds of things are happening.

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<v Speaker 3>A thirty five dollars insulent for seniors, and if we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get blocked by congressional Republicans, it would be thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five dollar a month insulent for everybody. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>we can still get that done. So whether it's our

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<v Speaker 3>transportation stuff or other sides of the house, like the

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<v Speaker 3>administration has a lot to be proud of and also

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of work today.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we go back to Mike Johnson for one second.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you got to go, but were you ever

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<v Speaker 2>discouraged by Christianity because of the Bible's views on homosexuality?

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<v Speaker 2>Because a lot of those guys like Mike Johnson, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they say they have those views because of what the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible says. So were you ever personally discouraged? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think every Christian, definitely, every gay Christian has had

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<v Speaker 3>to contend with the ways in which the Church and

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<v Speaker 3>scripture have have been sometimes weaponized or or turned against people.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think that that at least as I

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<v Speaker 3>spend time with scripture, there are parts of it that

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<v Speaker 3>tell you about the wisdom of God, and there are

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<v Speaker 3>parts of it that tell you about the values that

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<v Speaker 3>prevailed at the time that it was written. We we

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<v Speaker 3>we don't think it is outrageous to wear mixed cloth.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't subscribe to a lot of things that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see in Leviticus. Even the most devout people don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't think that those codes or ideas tell us how

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<v Speaker 3>we ought to live today. They tell us how it

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<v Speaker 3>was viewed as what was viewed as the norm thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago in the Middle East. But the parts

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<v Speaker 3>that that that most speak to to me have to

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<v Speaker 3>do with with protecting those who need to be protected.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to do with with infinite love. And Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think every Christian wrestles with with all of the

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<v Speaker 3>different things and ideas and forces and and anditions that that.

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<v Speaker 2>That are part of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But and it's turned a lot of people off from religion.

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<v Speaker 3>Right at our wedding, our pastor talked about how many

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<v Speaker 3>people are walking away from religion entirely. Uh. And and

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<v Speaker 3>yet I think that it can be such a force

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<v Speaker 3>for good without ever believing that I push, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what I believe on anybody else, And while being adamant

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<v Speaker 3>that no one in this country ought to have to

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<v Speaker 3>live based on some other guy's interpretation of his own religion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you referenced with Mike Johnson said earlier about

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<v Speaker 2>his worldview, So you wanted them a worldview. Pick up

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible and it's like, could it be possible the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible is an outdated worldview?

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know which chapter and verse are you looking up?

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<v Speaker 3>When you pick up though, right, he seems to he's

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<v Speaker 3>fine with doubling child poverty, but he's got a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with what goes on in other people's bedrooms. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they're picking and choosing more than everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of hard. It's crazy to just like gain

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<v Speaker 2>people so much. In your last name is Johnson. Shut up, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying you use that one pete, secretary p

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<v Speaker 2>used that one file that away, use that you.

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<v Speaker 4>Found it away, never to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>You appreciate you for you know what you say? You

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<v Speaker 2>say yo, you know what, Mike Johnson, he needs to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the tip of the files.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta go cut a river, Secretary. People appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Secretary, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Angela, I think you as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the Breakfast Clove, the morning wake that up in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>the Breakfast Club,