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Speaker 1: Our Way with yours truly paul Anka and my buddy

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Speaker 1: Skip Bronson, is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi folks, this

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Speaker 1: is Paul Anka and.

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Speaker 2: My name is Skip Bronson.

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Speaker 3: We've been friends for decades and we've decided to let

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Speaker 3: you in on our late night phone calls by starting

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Speaker 3: a new podcast.

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Speaker 1: And welcome to Our Way. We'd like you to meet

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Speaker 1: some real good friends of ours.

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Speaker 2: Your leaders in entertainment and.

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Speaker 1: Sports, innovators in business and technology, and even a sitting

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Speaker 1: president or two.

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Speaker 3: Join us as we ask the questions they've not been

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Speaker 3: asked before, tell it like it is, and even sing

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Speaker 3: a song or two.

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Speaker 1: This is our podcast, and we'll be doing it our way.

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Speaker 4: They don't have heightoned jobs, and they're legitimately stressed out.

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Speaker 4: And the more that we ignore them, or make fun

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Speaker 4: of them, or your worst of all rid its you them,

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Speaker 4: the more that we're dividing our country, Which is why

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Speaker 4: I believe that culture is so essential, because it's the

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Speaker 4: only way that we can overcome these divisions. Everybody likes

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Speaker 4: to go to Disney World, Everybody likes to turn on

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Speaker 4: their radio and listen to their favorite songs. There's some

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Speaker 4: things that we still do as a country, we just

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Speaker 4: don't do them together anymore.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, how's it going. Welcome back from Canada. I

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Speaker 5: know you were. Yeah, premiered my movie and the film festival,

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Speaker 5: and that's also was great. The reviews of an amazing

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Speaker 5: and I was had a great, great time. But we

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Speaker 5: got to confer here, buddy, because we didn't have a

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Speaker 5: good week in football, no great sources. Should we enable

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Speaker 5: our Handicapperiz James, Carbill James.

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Speaker 6: And then I got my vaguest connection and I'm in

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Speaker 6: a hole. I mean it was a podcast, podcast, film film.

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Speaker 6: Where do we go?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: We're talking cash here, that's a talking hard cash. NFL

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Speaker 5: is back. Anyway, You've been good, Chrissy. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 5: I've been good. And I get ready to go to Colorado,

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Speaker 5: like golf in a tournament up there, Hi, high altitudes. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I was in. I ran from one event they threw

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Speaker 5: for me at dinner to watch the debates, and you

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Speaker 5: and I both know we've conferred on that. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was something to watch, right, which is going to

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Speaker 5: lead us to who our dear friend Frank was going

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Speaker 5: to come on Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we absolutely love and I just dying to get

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Speaker 6: his spin on what's occurred here in the past few days,

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Speaker 6: aren't you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. He's a brilliant guy.

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Speaker 5: And you know, he grew up literally right down the

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Speaker 5: street from me in West Hartford, Connecticut. But we didn't

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Speaker 5: know each other then we met each other later. We

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Speaker 5: first met in the early nineties, and you knew the

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Speaker 5: lunch You knew the Lunx family. I knew that. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the father was a foren dentist and the father would

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Speaker 5: go out every night. The father was a loaner. You know,

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Speaker 5: Frank is a bit of a loaner. But the father

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Speaker 5: was just go out and walk by himself out than

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Speaker 5: he road after dinner every night, in the teeth all day.

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Speaker 5: Nobody wants to look at you exactly, forensic dentists.

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Speaker 6: Who wants to go to what did you do? Well,

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Speaker 6: let me put the enamel underneath the hudder floor. But

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Speaker 6: you know what, because that was a change of life, baby.

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Speaker 6: And you know, my sister, my one my one sibling,

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Speaker 6: was eleven years older than me, and I was My

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Speaker 6: whole thing. So it motivated me to write a book

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Speaker 6: about my life that I never planned to publish, but

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Speaker 6: I was just going to use it as a leap

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Speaker 6: I wrote it and I said. I called Frank, who

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Speaker 6: you know has been a good friend. I said, look,

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Speaker 6: I wrote this book, but it's not to be published.

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Speaker 6: This is just something to leave behind. But there's a

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Speaker 6: lot about Hartford and West Hartford in it. So would

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Speaker 6: reading it. He said, sure, send it over. So I

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Speaker 6: send it over to him. A week later, he comes

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Speaker 6: to see me in my office. He said, oh my god.

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Speaker 6: I said what He said, you have a book here.

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Speaker 6: I said, what do you mean? He said, well, it's

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Speaker 6: not about your life. That's not the thing. But the

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Speaker 6: war that you were in with Donald Trump, when you

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Speaker 6: and Steve Winn tried to develop the casino in Atlantic City.

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Speaker 6: That's an unbelievable story and people would want to read

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Speaker 6: that story. So you got to discard all this stuff

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Speaker 6: about you growing up. It's a paper route and did this,

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Speaker 6: and he did that. Forget about that, just isolate this part.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to edit this book for you, and I'm

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Speaker 6: going to call the part about this battle. And I said, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I said internally, you know in the comp he used

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Speaker 6: to call it the War at the Shore. And he said, oh,

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Speaker 6: that's a perfect title. So he took the book and

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Speaker 6: leave it to him. He's a wordsmith and he's written

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Speaker 6: best selling books himself, and from this leave Behind that

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Speaker 6: I never intended to publish came an LA Times bestseller.

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Speaker 6: And the book still sells today, especially on audio tape

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Speaker 6: whether you love him or hate him, it sells. So

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Speaker 6: my book, you know that was a successful venture, if

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Speaker 6: you will, came about because of Frank. Yeah, I love

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Speaker 6: the book. Well, I'm gonna ask him point blank. I

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Speaker 6: want to know who he thinks he's going to win.

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Speaker 6: He won't answer because the smart ones won't here. If

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Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to throwing smith questions out, he all

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Speaker 6: he wants to I wanted out of life. I think

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Speaker 6: I'm stinking this to be funny, was to meet you.

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Speaker 6: So I'm telling you he's met everybody he's met pres

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Speaker 6: he's made you know, athletes, he's made everybody. He must

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Speaker 6: have asked me half a dozen times. And that's why

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Speaker 6: I set up that lunch for you two to meet

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Speaker 6: at the Beverly Hills Hotel. And he loved it. And

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Speaker 6: if you recall, after about an hour and a half,

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Speaker 6: because he just couldn't get enough of you. Well, I'm

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Speaker 6: humbled by that. That's very cool, very cool. I look

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Speaker 6: forward to talking to him. And I think our listeners

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Speaker 6: will you know, we've given them an eclectic array of

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Speaker 6: lovely friends and smart people, and he'll give him a

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Speaker 6: different slant. I think between him and James will have

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Speaker 5: And as you know, every dinner party, all people are

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Speaker 5: talking about is this election. Right now, as we're getting

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Speaker 5: that's what we need.

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Speaker 6: Our country is going through big change and we have

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Speaker 6: to really get it done.

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Speaker 5: So much going on, so much anger or so much

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Speaker 5: you know, craziness. It's and we can ask them about

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Speaker 5: what's going on in Israel, I mean, not just about

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Speaker 5: the politics. But I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 5: great conversation. And as I said, I think the timing

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Speaker 5: is perfect. Well, you're going to get ready forbid and

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Speaker 5: I'm going to play pickledball tot night perfect. Make sure

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Speaker 5: you keep the lights on. The woman is waiting, the

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Speaker 5: lights are on, the play in the dark. I tried,

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Speaker 6: All right, my competition want lights on out?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 6: Exactly, all right, Skip, let me see. I'm going with

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Speaker 6: Kansas City this week. I'm going with the Lions this week,

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Speaker 6: and I think the Cowboys those are my three picks.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's see. Let's hope you're right, and it will.

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Speaker 5: We'll get carbos picks and your guys and your friends

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Speaker 6: So what was the old saying in casinos is do

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Speaker 6: Exactly gets a game with anyway, We have fun, all right,

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Speaker 5: Get some sleep, sale and O mama will do. We'll

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Speaker 7: Okay, Hello, Frank, nice to see you again, buddy.

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Speaker 4: It's it's great to see you. Now, I really Skip.

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Speaker 4: We get a chance to do this, which is so

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Speaker 4: cool for me. Which, yeah, I just gotta warn you,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna be asking me questions and I'm gonna be

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Speaker 4: asking you questions.

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Speaker 1: Leh.

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Speaker 2: I was telling Paul and our producer Jordan was on

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Speaker 2: with us that the irony of all this that you

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Speaker 4: That is correct?

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Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, And I knew your dad, But then you

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Speaker 2: and how did you first get involved in politics? And

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Speaker 4: I won everyone at a bar a free drink from

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Speaker 4: the owner because I could do the presidents forwards and backwards,

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Speaker 4: pay up and from that point on it was just

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Speaker 4: but Paul, you were good. The first time he had

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Speaker 4: a number one song, you were it. Did Joe appreciate well?

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Speaker 1: Like you? I started young like you. I started young,

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Speaker 1: and I was fifteen when I left home with a

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Speaker 1: and got my first hit. Correct. So you and I

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Speaker 4: How early did you realize that you wanted to be

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Speaker 4: Right, you know, I think all that Paul's Lebanese.

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Speaker 1: And I was just a Lebanese kid up in Canada,

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Speaker 4: Why don't we get along today? We should?

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Speaker 4: It's a real tragedy because there was so much creativity

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Speaker 1: Well, it leads us to where we're at today. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Today's immigrants are coming from everywhere, you know, from failed

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Speaker 4: Well, the public is very clear that it wants tall

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Speaker 4: of the reasons why I believe music, theater, movies, and

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Speaker 4: And Paul tribal, tribal, I've been to you. You won't know this,

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Speaker 4: That's a good thing that you come to a different

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Speaker 4: And I just wish that our culture could overwhelm this.

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Speaker 4: And now we're looking for where we disagree. We used

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Speaker 1: Do you think Trump is selling anger?

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Speaker 4: And I don't think we do enough to hear them,

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Speaker 4: Everybody likes to go to Disney World, although the average

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Speaker 1: So you feel that the pessimism that we've had right

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Speaker 4: That it's correct. And to some degree they're correct. To

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Speaker 1: But the younger generation, they were detached. Isn't that where

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the strange thing that I could not explain

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Speaker 4: Usually, younger voters are absolutely in the Democratic camp, and

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Speaker 4: which is on a clearestday evening, Harris is winning among

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Speaker 4: younger voters, beidingumped by twenty points. They are engaged, they

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Speaker 1: I agree they're becoming active.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the same that they did to you when

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Speaker 4: Right now they see somebody that they're loving.

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Speaker 1: So we believe that they're now involved. And do you

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly what I believe, and I can prove it.

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Speaker 4: The greatest intensity level that people who were saying they

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Speaker 1: So she's introduced optimism.

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Speaker 4: She's introduced relevancy. Politics are now relevant and these young

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Speaker 1: And they've been holding all that stuff inside, Frank, and

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Speaker 4: are and they can't wait.

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Speaker 2: So if Harris gives them that what Paul's referring to, right,

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Speaker 2: if people now with Harris had changed. But let's just

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Speaker 2: back up just before Kamala became the candidate, when it

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Speaker 2: was Biden versus Trump. The common thread flight that you

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Speaker 2: heard over and over and people go to you for answers.

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Speaker 2: People were asking, how can it be that we have

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Speaker 2: more than three hundred and thirty million.

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Speaker 4: People in this country and this is the choice that

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Speaker 4: we have.

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Speaker 2: That was a question every person. Now you might say

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Speaker 2: that that changed somewhat because you've got Colla in the race,

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Speaker 2: But what is the reason why we didn't have, let's say,

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Speaker 2: better choice than Trump versus Biden. Why is that?

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Speaker 4: By the way, I do believe that this is going

450
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Speaker 4: to be the least listen to podcasts of your life.

451
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Speaker 4: Gives me doing politics, which people hate. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: do it because I know you want to do it.

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Speaker 4: But as someone's worked for networks and radio companies broadcasters,

454
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Speaker 4: everything inside me is saying, don't do this a skip,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna hold it against me, and Paul, you're never

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Speaker 4: gonna talk to me again, and you check your numbers

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Speaker 4: and they're gonna stink.

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Speaker 2: That's just the opposite. Right now, It's the only thing

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Speaker 2: people talk about. You go to a dinner party. This

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Speaker 2: is all that I beg to differ with you on

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Speaker 2: this one point. It's the only thing people are talking about.

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Speaker 2: You go to your club, you go to restaurants, you

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Speaker 2: go to a dinner party. This is all the only

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Speaker 2: thing people are talking about.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's your generation. Skip. Everyone born in the twenty

466
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Speaker 4: first century is tesperately looking for something else. And I

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Speaker 4: just I hate boring them now.

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Speaker 2: But what they were looking for? But they were looking

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Speaker 2: for different candidates. My question is something different. Why is

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Speaker 2: it that good quality people don't run? What is the

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Speaker 2: principal reason in your opinion, and you're an expert, what

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Speaker 2: is the principal reason why highly qualified people, who who

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Speaker 2: were likable and intelligent, they don't want to get involved

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Speaker 2: in this? What is the principal reason for that?

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Speaker 4: First is the rules themselves. Republicans can now vote in

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Speaker 4: Democratic primaries, Democrats cannot vote in Republican primaries, and the

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Speaker 4: very few places in independence vote and EI their primary.

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Speaker 4: So that means you get the most extreme people getting

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Speaker 4: nominated on the Democratic and Republican side. Sacking and social

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Speaker 4: media has becomes so brutal and mean and vindictive, nobody

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Speaker 4: wants to put themselves through it. Third is that every

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Speaker 4: newspaper or TV or even online journalist is an investigative

483
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Speaker 4: reporter and their whole life is digging up negative, salacious,

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Speaker 4: hostile stories on your opponents.

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Speaker 2: And fourth, it's.

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Speaker 4: Become so expensive that only million millionaires can run. For

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Speaker 4: those four reasons, we get the most left wing Democrats,

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Speaker 4: the most right wing Republicans, and there's no sensible people

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Speaker 4: from the center. And that's real tragedy. I've been doing

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Speaker 4: politics now for almost fifty years, and there's no way

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Speaker 4: that I would run. I wouldn't even serve we get

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Speaker 4: running for office. I would even want to be a

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Speaker 4: member of comics because of how disruptive it is. Nobody

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Speaker 4: respects you, nobody appreciates you. You get paid one hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty five thousand a year, which sounds like a lot,

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Speaker 4: but you're maintaining two households, you're flying back and forth.

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Speaker 4: You are under a microscope every hour of every day.

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Speaker 4: The public now thinks that they've a right to come

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Speaker 4: into a restaurant and yell at you when you're there

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Speaker 4: with your kids having dinner. It's just an awful, awful environment,

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Speaker 4: and it's getting worse, not getting better.

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Speaker 1: Well, unlike what a friend of ours told SKIP and I,

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Speaker 1: you know, we know that Washington crowd are treacherous yea,

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Speaker 1: we will admit to that. Everybody knows. In our town

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Speaker 1: of Hollywood, they'll tell you things to your face and

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Speaker 1: they'll stab you first in the throat and on the stomach,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll stab you in the back. Then they'll

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Speaker 1: stab you in the ass. But in Washington they'll stab

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Speaker 1: you once. Right.

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Speaker 4: Well, the difference is Hollywood is Washington. Just the people

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Speaker 4: are prettier.

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Speaker 1: But you know you're on the pulse. And I disagree

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Speaker 1: too in terms of I think our listeners, who we

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Speaker 1: value a great deal, totally get you. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you're one of those one of a kind guys that

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Speaker 1: really know what they're talking about. We lack that. That's

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Speaker 1: why my hat goes off to a guy like Bill Maher.

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Speaker 1: For months, this guy was out there, he took all

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Speaker 1: the shots, told it exactly like it was. And I

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Speaker 1: like guys like that because in America, all men have balls,

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Speaker 1: we know that, but you know what, they don't know

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Speaker 1: how to use them, most of them. So I admire

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Speaker 1: guys like you, mar and your on it to know

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Speaker 1: that there's something happening in our country now. I think

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Speaker 1: there is a change and there's that vibe going on,

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Speaker 1: and I think Washington has not recognized it. Our folks

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Speaker 1: want to leave everything behind. They want to start over.

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Speaker 1: They want something to believe in it. I'm out there.

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Speaker 1: I sing to them, I meet with them, I talk

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Speaker 1: to them. They want to move forward in a positive fact.

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Speaker 4: But the problem is the politicians are encouraging this bad behavior.

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Speaker 4: Young people see candidates yelling at each other, lying to

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Speaker 4: each other, just being anti civil to each other, and

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Speaker 4: they start to copy it. Here's a reason why young

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Speaker 4: people are attacking their teachers. There's a reason why divorce

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Speaker 4: when people and they blame the reason for it, and

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Speaker 4: increasing numbers say politics. And in fact, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: give you a missing truism that the issue with Kamala

539
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Speaker 4: Harris is that she reminds men of their first wife.

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Speaker 4: The issue with Donald Trump is that he reminds women

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Speaker 4: of their first husband's divorced lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. People want fun again, right, they want fun?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And the problem is they're not going to get

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Speaker 4: it in politics.

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Speaker 1: They keep telling us how bad things are, how rigged

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Speaker 1: everything is, and it's not energizing. And I look at

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Speaker 1: Harris and I don't know. She throws a sense of

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Speaker 1: hope out there, doesn't she.

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Speaker 4: Speaks to their language. It's completely void of detail. She

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Speaker 4: doesn't tell us where she really stands, but she offers

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Speaker 4: a change and at least maybe not our generation, but

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Speaker 4: something closer to us. Compared to Trump and Biden, she

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Speaker 4: is a breath of fresh air. I do believe that

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Speaker 4: she owes the American people the details of her playmants.

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Speaker 4: I do believe that she's running away from people, that

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Speaker 4: she's not allowing reporters to question her, but so much

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Speaker 4: of what she's campaigning on his flow when they deserve substance.

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Speaker 4: In the end, you have the responsibility as a candidate

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Speaker 4: for president tell people exactly where you stand, and voters

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Speaker 4: have the right to demand that candor, and she's not

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Speaker 4: doing it. She didn't do it in the debate, and

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Speaker 4: she's not doing it in her day to day campaigny

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Speaker 4: by the same token, Trump is being absolutely destructive in

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Speaker 4: his language, in his approach, and I think the public,

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Speaker 4: particularly now in twenty twenty four, public deserves better see

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Speaker 4: if somebody like me really frustrated from both candidates both perspectives,

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Speaker 4: because I think the public isn't being well served.

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Speaker 2: You think this election will in great part be people

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Speaker 2: voting against someone as opposed to voting for.

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Speaker 1: Someone, always has been.

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Speaker 4: But we had one exception, which is twenty oh eight,

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Speaker 4: when John McCain ran against Barack Obama. The ads are positive,

573
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Speaker 4: the campaign was positive. The two candidates would complement each other.

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Speaker 4: There was no question that they would shake hands and

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Speaker 4: talk to each other before and after the debate. I

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Speaker 4: remember when John McCain said to a supporter, called Barack

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Speaker 4: Obama Muslim. But Kaine stopped the town hall and said, no, man,

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Speaker 4: that is not correct. And he challenged her and he said, look,

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Speaker 4: we have very different solutions for the problems facing America,

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Speaker 4: but we are both out of Americans. How different is

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Speaker 4: that than what you see today? And that was only

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Speaker 4: it's less than twenty years, not a long topical. I

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Speaker 4: wish we had those kinds of politics today.

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Speaker 1: But Frank Obama, he wrote in on Hope right all

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Speaker 1: the way to the White House. But weren't we sold

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Speaker 1: a bill of goods on that? Congress was locked. Other

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Speaker 1: than the Affordable Care Act, nothing really passed. Divisions between

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Speaker 1: the parties grew, and Trump won right, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Fair, but I was active when they actually did get along.

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Speaker 4: Go back to nineteen ninety four, which is hardably how

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Speaker 4: long ago that But when new kingrig took over the

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Speaker 4: House and said to Bill Clinton, let's sit down, let's negotiate.

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Speaker 4: What did they end up doing? I balanced budget, a

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Speaker 4: budget that actually reduced the debt, not added to it.

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Speaker 4: And they had several other agreements such as welfare reform

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Speaker 4: sure Bill Clinton Vitol did initially, but the President and

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Speaker 4: the Republicans in Congress actually got stuffed done. And how

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Speaker 4: different that is then than right now with Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: and the Republicans in the House. He wouldn't even meet

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Speaker 4: with them for months at a time. You have to

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Speaker 4: be able, I'll give you the four P elements. You

602
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Speaker 4: have to be able to talk to each other, have

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Speaker 4: to be able to listen to each each other. You

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Speaker 4: have to be able to offer meaningful, measurable solutions. And

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Speaker 4: you have to accept eighty five percent. If you're willing

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Speaker 4: to do those things, they're all reasonable, they're all sensible,

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Speaker 4: then you can get stuff done. The problem is nobody

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Speaker 4: wants to compromise on anything.

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Speaker 1: Frank, I have to because the big topic of the day,

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Speaker 1: at least the big buzz today is you know who?

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Speaker 1: But you know I go back to the sixties when

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Speaker 1: I was a young kid, as you mentioned, and I'm

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Speaker 1: working for the mob, because you know that's who you

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Speaker 1: worked for. They ran everything. And I'm in Vegas and

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Speaker 1: I'm around the rat pack, right, And when I saw

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Speaker 1: the power of Sinatra, the rat Pack and Kennedy who'd

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Speaker 1: come in and out of town, and I'd get the

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Speaker 1: drift and the swagger of what was going on that

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Speaker 1: he needed to be elected. And Sinatra and his group

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Speaker 1: literally with a big dynamic the gut Kennedy elected. Fade out,

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Speaker 1: fade in. Here we are, Taylor Swift, skip, and I

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Speaker 1: want to know how much of that needle moves and

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Speaker 1: give us a commentary on that.

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Speaker 4: We asked a question, actually, who has a bigger impact

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Speaker 4: on your vote? And the time it was Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden, Donald Trump, or Taylor Swift. Thirty eight percent

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Speaker 4: chose Trump, thirty four percent chose Biden, and remarkably, twenty

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Speaker 4: five percent chose Taylor Swift. And that among women under

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Speaker 4: age thirty, she beat the other two. She will have

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Speaker 4: an impact among younger women to listen to her, they'll

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Speaker 4: hear her point of view. And she's learned that you

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Speaker 4: don't just do it out of support. You have to

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Speaker 4: explain why, which is really important. Give them a reason,

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Speaker 4: or actually give them three reasons. One is random, two

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Speaker 4: is a trend. Three the number three, communication wise, is proof.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what she did in her letter to

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Speaker 4: her fans, and it is going to make a difference.

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Speaker 4: All I got a question for you. Between nineteen sixty

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Speaker 4: and nineteen eighty, Frank Sinatra went from being a big

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Speaker 4: Democrat to being one of the most public supporters of

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Speaker 4: Ronald Reagan. And in fact, and kick was the eighty

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Speaker 4: four Inaugury Inaugural Ball where he'd performed and it was

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Speaker 4: such a big deal, and Don Rickles was there and

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Speaker 4: some of the other people he hung out with in Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Was it Reagan who changed Sinatra? Or was it the

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Speaker 4: Times who changed Sinaptra?

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Speaker 1: I think it was a combination of both. Keeping in

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Speaker 1: mind he had a very bad taste in his mouth

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Speaker 1: as to the expectation that he was going to get

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Speaker 1: out of the Kennedy ride and when they turned on

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Speaker 1: him and Bobby turned on them and the mafia and

652
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Speaker 1: what have you, that didn't sit well with him for

653
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Speaker 1: many many years, not unlike a lot of us and

654
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: he was close to Reagan, and you know, you get

655
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: these corporations, they're going to put their money whoever can

656
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: help them. They're going to go back and forth. You know,

657
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: Frank was not quite like that, but he he kind

658
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: of changed his whole philosophy toward where we were going

659
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Speaker 1: and the politics, and it was his like of Reagan.

660
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Speaker 1: And I think he still was hurting from what the

661
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Speaker 1: Kennedys did to him, because it was a it was

662
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: a massive event, Frank, when you realize, you know, they

663
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: did help in electing Kennedy, and then what evolved was,

664
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Speaker 1: you know, the whole castro thing and with a mafia

665
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: in there to help, and they had contracts with the government,

666
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: and then you know, a couple of the guys got

667
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: killed and who killed. So this whole mafia crowd and

668
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: all of them they were let down by the whole

669
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Speaker 1: democratic system that they thought that they could get in

670
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: and do business with. And he just and he was

671
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: in straightforward guy. He was a great guy. He was

672
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: a man's man. He was smart, and he knew where

673
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: he wanted to go, and he loved this country and

674
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: he felt that Reagan was the ticket. I mean, didn't

675
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: you remember when you endorsed Agnew, so he just went

676
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: right over to that side.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a big deal. It really mattered.

678
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know music years ago, Frank Skip, we

679
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: used to not me, but music affected and had a

680
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: political kind of outcoming. They could force. They could also

681
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: generate all kinds of excitement politically and lead on with music.

682
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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen today. Music has no place in politics.

683
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't add any strength to it whatsoever. But this

684
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift thing is very interesting. It's a phenomenon for

685
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: all of us in the business. I think her and

686
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: the Beatles, I don't think I've ever seen anything like

687
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: this collectively. Everybody that might be a competitor to her

688
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: don't even come close to her. But to see this

689
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: dynamic in play and to see what it's going to

690
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: do in this election where smart people I think wouldn't

691
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: sit here and try to predict who's going to become president.

692
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: I think you just don't do that. I'd be curious

693
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: to see what you're feeling is with her involved. Now,

694
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: can you predict that you think Harris is going to

695
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: win this? Would you dare jump out on that?

696
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Speaker 4: I would, and I have within the last twenty four

697
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Speaker 4: hours and I'm getting my head kicked in. That is

698
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 4: really I can't help it. It's my focus, groupts, it's

699
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: my coving. That is my knowledge of Trump and his

700
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: ability to listen to others, his ability to hear the criticism,

701
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: which he doesn't have. Skip you know him much better

702
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 4: than any of us on this podcast. I don't think

703
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: Trump understands the trouble that he's in. And Paul I

704
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: do want to address music and politics. Bleewood Mac that

705
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: absolutely got behind Bill Clinton in nineteen ninety two and

706
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: people still remember them in the convention, and Bruce Springsteen

707
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: endorsing and performing for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. There

708
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: are times when musicians make a difference for a candidate

709
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: in times that they don't. That even though she had

710
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: all of the entertainers and I went to the radio

711
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 4: Citdney Music Hall in twenty sixteen, I did not pay

712
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: for it. Although I'll tell you something in twenty sixteen,

713
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Speaker 4: I'm going to acknowledge something on this podcast. For the

714
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: first time I went to the concert. Then it had

715
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 4: Rim and John Fogerty and Dixie Chicks, and yes, some

716
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 4: of the money that I had to pay for the

717
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 4: ticket went to move on dot Org. And you know what,

718
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 4: don't screw with my knees. I don't politicize music. Don't

719
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: tell me I can't go to a concert the idea

720
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Speaker 4: of seeing rim and Fogerty and there's one other performer,

721
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Speaker 4: there's no one'm going to miss that. I don't care

722
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Speaker 4: where the money goes. You can't do that anymore. And

723
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Speaker 4: I remember a Republican senator from state of Wyoming came

724
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: up to me and said, I hear you donated to

725
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Speaker 4: move On And I said, no, I did not. I

726
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: went to a concert, and I know some of the

727
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: money went to move On. He said to me, have

728
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: to choose sides, because we in this conference don't like

729
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: people who donate to that horrible organization. And I said

730
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Speaker 4: to him, and I was proud of this the time.

731
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Speaker 4: Don't make me choose between my music and my politics,

732
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: because you don't know which I would choose. We don't

733
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: have that anymore. Everything is now so political and so divide.

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Speaker 4: She's got to perform. If she performs in the last

735
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Speaker 4: ten days for Harris, that will make the biggest difference

736
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Speaker 4: of all.

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Speaker 1: You know, going back to your point only to amplify it.

738
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Speaker 1: I go back to Donald Trump to the sixties. I

739
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: got a call from Roy Cohen. Roy Cohen was Trump's mentor.

740
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Speaker 1: We met and I've known him ever since and I've

741
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Speaker 1: worked for him. And without getting into it, he is

742
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Speaker 1: what he is and Roy Cohen taught him a great deal.

743
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Speaker 1: And I'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I would ask more, but I still I want

745
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 4: to know you. And you still have French in Vegas.

746
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: You know, I want to continue to know you more

747
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 4: than just for the next forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: We're going to lunch again because I totally enjoyed it,

749
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: and you know that's a that's a given for you

750
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: and I. We're going to go to lunch and do it.

751
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: And there I will open up, but here I won't.

752
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: And you went to one of my favorite places in

753
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Speaker 1: the world because I just left there. Two fans Hong Kong.

754
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: I performed at the Changeover. I've been going down there

755
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: for fifty years and I'm sure you'll agree. Besides the

756
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: food and everything. I mean, I know there's a slight

757
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: change because of the politics in Hong Kong, but what

758
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Speaker 1: a special place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know our friend Alan Zeman, who's a

760
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: friend of mine and a friend of Paul's who you

761
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: were with. Do you know about Lang Kwai Fong. I

762
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: do not know, Okay, so.

763
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Speaker 1: I love his records. I love his records. He's had

764
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: twelve gold records in the West.

765
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Speaker 2: That's funny. Lang Kwai Fong is where all the expats

766
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: from the US hang out. And Alan Xeman owns that

767
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: whole neighborhood in Hong Kong where they have a tremendous

768
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: number of restaurants. It looks like it looks like, you know,

769
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: part of the West Village in New York City. And

770
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: Alan owns the buildings, it owns the restaurants, and he's

771
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: just he's a wonderful friend to Paul into me, and

772
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: he got such a kick out of you. He said

773
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: that people just loved you. I said, listen, I only

774
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: know one thing. Everybody wants a piece of Frank right now.

775
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: He's on CNN three out of five days. I said.

776
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: They must have paid him a god awful amount of

777
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: money to get on a plane and fly all the

778
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: way from la to Hong Kong. That's a tough trip,

779
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: give a speech and come back. I said, that had

780
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Speaker 2: to be a hell of a number but he said,

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00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: Alan said, you just you outperformed. He thought that, you know,

782
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: you were just great. And again getting back to your

783
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: earlier point about well, people don't care that much about politics.

784
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: That's what they wanted to hear about. They didn't want

785
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: to hear about the American condition, right, they wanted to

786
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: hear your point of view on where it's going. To

787
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 2: that point, because Paul touched on it earlier, some people

788
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: would say that Trump could be Kamala Harris, but he

789
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: can't beat Taylor Swift. That if Taylor Swift really does,

790
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: as you say, get ginned up and really motivated to

791
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: do all she can, that he won't be able to

792
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: overcome that. Do you think that's true or is that

793
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: not the case.

794
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: I'm going to take your point and I'm going to

795
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 4: use this in the future and I've just developed it

796
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: here on this podcast. Donald Trump can can defeat Kamala Harris.

797
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: Donald Trump cannot defeat Donald Trump, and that is his

798
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: problem in trusting.

799
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: So, Frank, should there be will there be a debate?

800
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Another debate who's going to be smart here?

801
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: She won't do it. If she's smart, she doesn't need to.

802
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: And that is a very big deal. The fact that

803
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: that she came in the novice and outperformed and he

804
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 4: came in the professional and underperformed. Now he's saying that

805
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 4: he won't even accept a Fox News debate with Red Bay.

806
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: I'm autum McCollum for a very good journalist, has nothing

807
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: to do with what network they are on. But he

808
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: won't accept it. He's being foolish. You know, there's a

809
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: line from Carl McCartney to hate Jude that I think

810
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: is really powerful.

811
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: Only a fool.

812
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: Plays it cool by making his world a little colder.

813
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what Trump does week after week, day

814
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 4: after day. He's doing it right now with this presidential campaign,

815
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: and he's going to regret it. He could have said, yes,

816
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: I'll do the debate anywhere, anytime, and it would have happened.

817
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: He's going to need that debate, and now they're going

818
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 4: to be able to say, while we offered it, he

819
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 4: said no, that the offers were drawn. But you don't

820
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: think it's to her advantess to debate him again, No,

821
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 4: I do not, because she already won and she already

822
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: closed the gap she's leading. I think she's going to

823
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: go ahead in the next few days and from this

824
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: point on, you just be careful. From this point on,

825
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: you avoid mistakes. You don't have to push the luck.

826
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: This is not where you're trying to double your money

827
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: in the roulette tables for three or four roles and

828
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: trying to get lucky. This is the presidency. She's got

829
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 4: the advantage, she's.

830
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: In the lead.

831
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 4: Don't risk it.

832
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: And what do you say to people who say that

833
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Speaker 2: it was three against.

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Speaker 4: One with the ABC moderators. You know, I've heard that

835
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: from a lot of nonpartisan people, and I know the

836
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 4: agency moderator because I know the media is involved in this.

837
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Speaker 4: And it is true that they fact checked Trump four

838
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: times and he did not fact check Harris at all,

839
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Speaker 4: and that they didn't push Trump seemingly a little bit

840
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 4: tougher than Harris. Then why didn't he turn it to

841
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: his advantage? Why did he say during the debate four

842
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: to zero, I challenge you as representas of the American people.

843
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: And there's a reason why the medical people don't trust you.

844
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: Don't eat on credibility because you treat people in decent

845
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 4: you are biased, you play favorites. He could have challenged

846
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: them there, but he didn't. And once again, that was

847
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: a weakness, and in fact, at one point she says

848
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: to Trump, I'm speaking because Trump went to interrupt her.

849
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 4: And what he should have said that moment was and

850
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: that's the problem. Man and Vice president. You are speaking.

851
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 4: All you do is speak. All you do is talk.

852
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: The public wants you to do. Stop talking and start doing.

853
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 4: He didn't do any of that. He focused on cats

854
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: and dogs disappearing and becoming some as barbecue.

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Speaker 1: I think he does another one, well.

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Speaker 4: Paul de should offer to moderate that debate. Everybody likes

857
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 4: you that.

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00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: Won't step down comes to politics. I'm not stepping down, no,

859
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: but I think he goes for the debate. I think

860
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Speaker 1: he needs to. Frankly, what about those that were so

861
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Speaker 1: the naysayers who said that Shapiro should have been the

862
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Speaker 1: VP to her because we know how important Pennsylvania's.

863
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: But would have been the perfect choice. But Harris did

864
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Speaker 4: not want a step in the middle of the Israeli

865
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Speaker 4: Palestinian conflict. She did not have the guts. He was

866
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Speaker 4: very articulate. He's the most popular governor in America. He's

867
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 4: a good campaigner, he knows the issues. He's a centrist.

868
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: And there are too many Democrats who said that they

869
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: would walk on her if she didn't choose someone to

870
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 4: the left. And I feel the same way about the

871
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 4: Republican vice presidential nominee. Jd. Vance is not Marco Rubio,

872
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: He's not Tim Scott. If Donald Trump had chosen Nickey

873
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 4: Ailey game said and matched Trump.

874
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: You know, they did a survey on that. I heard

875
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: that they went out and surveyed it with their group

876
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: and they came back that she wouldn't move the needle

877
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: at all if she ran with Trump. I mean, that's

878
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: what they were saying. But I agree with you. I

879
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: think she would have.

880
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: But you mentioned Israel, and that's the other big sort

881
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 2: of flashpoint right now. So I know that you know Yawo,

882
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: I know you've spent time with him. How could you

883
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: resolve what's going on? I think there's a common threat,

884
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: whether it's Democrat or Republican in America, at least people

885
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: want this over. How can it be over?

886
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: The only way it can be over is if there's

887
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: a winner and a loser. And the fact that the

888
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: hostages are still hostages tells you a Moss's attitude. Let

889
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: me give the two data points. Every single day, the

890
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: AMAS leadership goes on Al Jazeera, the news organization out

891
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: of Cutter and they proclaim death not to Israel, death

892
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: to the Jews, and day after day, week after week,

893
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 4: month after month, they say that they are committed to

894
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: the complete annihilation of the Jewish community. The world doesn't

895
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: know that. The world thinks this is just a battle

896
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: between Israel and the Palestinians, and that Israel's behaving badly.

897
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: These hostages have been gone now for eleven months. You're

898
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: being tortured, being sexually assaulted. Many of them, I believe

899
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: the vast majority are dead at this point. How do

900
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: you make peace with that? The only way you make

901
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: peace with that is to destroy you. And they call

902
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 4: on and this is the thing I don't understand from Israel.

903
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 4: Not only do they call on death to the Jews,

904
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 4: but they say publicly on the record that they won't

905
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 4: stop till Israel stops existing. It's a war of self defense.

906
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 4: And the Israeli government have been horrible communicators, horrible in

907
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: explaining what's happening to them. And they even have the

908
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: video GIP They've got the from these cocams and bodycams

909
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: that they carried to do these terrorist attacks. You see

910
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: them playfully assaulting women and children. You see them with

911
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: such zeal, burning people alive. You see the most ainous

912
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 4: crimes committed by people who are celebrating as they are

913
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: killing these people in the most ugly, painful, in humane way.

914
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 4: And Israel refuses to release the footage publicly, only showing

915
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: it in certain circumstances because they are there to protect

916
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 4: the respect and the decency of the victims in those videos.

917
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 4: I don't get it. This is the truth. These aren't

918
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 4: we touched photos, These aren't fake and phony presentations. Is

919
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 4: this isn't some woman crying in a bunch of rubble

920
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 4: who then gets into a bus, drives to the next

921
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 4: bunch of rubble, gets walks into the center and starts

922
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: crying again, goes to a third This is what they do.

923
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: This isn't fake, This isn't phony. This is real, and

924
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 4: they have it all on video, and they don't show

925
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: it nearly enough because they're trying to protect the reputations

926
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 4: and the emotions of the victims. This is twenty twenty four.

927
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: You cannot do that. The public has a right to know,

928
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: and Israel, the government has responsibility to tell them exactly

929
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: what happened. On October seventh, and they don't, So.

930
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: In your opinion, I think they're going to keep they

931
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: just net y'all, who has just keep prosecuting this word

932
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: that there's no negotiated settlement is what you're saying.

933
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 4: Oh, there hasn't been. There will there'll be a negotiated settlement,

934
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: probably within the next two or three weeks. But the

935
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: fact that it goes on and on and six hostile

936
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: Jeez was shot in cold blood. By the way, everyone's

937
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 4: been waiting for Iran the bomb Israel because they took

938
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: out the Hamas leader in Tehran. This is the payback,

939
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 4: and this is much more painful that Israel can take

940
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: bombs dropped by planes. Israel can take a lot of pain,

941
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 4: as it's had it over the last seventy five years.

942
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 4: But when they shoot these people after holding them hostage

943
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: for eleven months and they shoot them in the back

944
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 4: of the end, they execute them, and they're assigned that

945
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: they were in horrific pain just prior to that execution.

946
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 4: That's the worst because you can imagine what they were

947
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: going through. And that is what Hamas seeks to do,

948
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: cause maximum pain, maximum hardship, maximum destruction. They were succeeding,

949
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 4: and Israel's actually getting blamed for Mamas's behavior. That's how

950
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: bad the communication was. Right now, It's a tragedy, it's

951
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 4: a travesty, and we got to do something about it,

952
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: but we don't.

953
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: So, Frank, I've been with Netanyahu. I go to Israel lot.

954
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: They're amazing people and I enjoy every time I go there.

955
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: Does Netanya who have to go? Is there blood on

956
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: his hands? Does he have to go? I mean, I

957
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: like the man. They've been gracious to me, but it's

958
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: part of the problem. And you know, I have a

959
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: lot of friends over there and the senses he has

960
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: to go.

961
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: Yes, Netanya was prime minister when they came across the board.

962
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: He was prime minister at a time when they had

963
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: the most horrific security failure ever in the state of Israel.

964
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: He was the prime minister who appointed the leadership of

965
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: the IDEAF, and the leadership of the Secret Service, and

966
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: the leadership of all the people that are there to

967
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 4: keep Israel safe and secure. And he won't even accept responsibility.

968
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: Once again, again, it's a tragedy. And in any other

969
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 4: country the leader would have stepped down. God in my

970
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: ear disappeared as Prime Minister quit because he took responsibility

971
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: for what happened in seventy three. Aod Elmert left rob

972
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: Beychurce to hear your opinion of the Lebanon situation two

973
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 4: thousand and five. In the end, people take it responsibility

974
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: and I realized that I'm coughing and this is actually

975
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 4: I want you to lead this in.

976
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: It's very human and it's going to stay in and

977
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: it shows that you can art take which I can't do.

978
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: If I were on a fucking stage singing and doing

979
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: what you're doing, I'd be out of business. You will

980
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: go on as the mention of the world. And what

981
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: a power force, folks. He is making his point in

982
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: between cuffs. I love it.

983
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 8: I make bright a song and you can call the

984
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 8: coffee to death or heading to This stuff really does matter,

985
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 8: carlas the world is watching and Israel has to be strong,

986
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 8: but we have to be compassionate to those who are suffering,

987
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 8: and that's not happening.

988
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break for our advertiser, Robotescent, and

989
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: we'll be right. We'll be right back. What are you drinking?

990
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: Why do you have some hot hot tea?

991
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 5: Honey?

992
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: You know what's great, Frank, just for the future. Honey

993
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: is magic. Frank. You take two three teaspoonfuls. You stop

994
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: coughing right away.

995
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 4: And you know I have nothing else except except Presco

996
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 4: and popcorn.

997
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: I love popcorn. That's all we usedee, all of us.

998
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: We'd sit around Vegas and we'd have damn popcorn into

999
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: the wee hours. We still love our popcorn.

1000
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 4: Still, Do you guys have anything stronger than that?

1001
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: When you're in Vegas, Frank, when we have lunch, I'm

1002
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: gonna blow you away when I tell you I was

1003
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: the luckiest teenager in the world. And hanging with those guys,

1004
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: they did it all. These were men, They were smokers,

1005
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: they were drinkers, they were gamblers, womanizing. Now, I didn't

1006
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: partake in all of it, but one under three or four.

1007
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: I was a happy kid. Every show girl who showed up,

1008
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm next, and I'm only five six. When I danced

1009
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: with those topless women, man, I wasn't a trade places

1010
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: with anybody. The steam room was the point of the

1011
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: social vibe in Vegas, and we all would meet Frank

1012
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: in that steam room behind the Sands Hotel after every show.

1013
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: They would bring food Jace Seabring would come up and

1014
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: cut her hair. We did everything that you would think of,

1015
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: and I loved it. It was a great experience for me,

1016
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: a great learning, learning process being involved with all those guys.

1017
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: They taught me a great deal what to do and

1018
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: what not to do.

1019
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: Frankly, so we've been at this for an hour, it

1020
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: does feels like twenty minutes. But just before we go,

1021
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 2: talk for a minute, if you would, about your relationship

1022
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: with Mike Milkan, how that first developed. And I know

1023
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: he thinks so highly of you, clearly, whenever he has

1024
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 2: the Milk and Institute, he wants to make sure you're

1025
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: a speaker. I know you just went to the Hamptons.

1026
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: He had an event there. He wanted to be sure

1027
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: you were there. I know that. You know you have

1028
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: a very special kind of relationship with a very special guy,

1029
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: and I'm just curious how that first developed.

1030
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: Well, he ignored me completely for two years. I could

1031
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: not get through it to him. And it was Steve Lynn,

1032
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 4: your friend, both of your friends. It was when who

1033
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 4: put me on Milkin's plane and said to Mike, pay

1034
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 4: attention to this guy, but he can help you. And

1035
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: Milkie would not talk to me guess on the play

1036
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: goes to the back we land in La Milkin comes off,

1037
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: shakes my hand and says, sometime I want to meet you. Well,

1038
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: that's not help. It took two years to make the connection.

1039
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 4: And the reason why the connection matters. It's a great

1040
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: way to end this conversation is that Milkin got involved

1041
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: in my life and I started to share with him

1042
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 4: language to celebrate the American dream and language to celebrate capitalism,

1043
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 4: which I call the economic freedom. And instead of economic growth,

1044
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 4: you talk about a healthy economy instead of human capitalist,

1045
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 4: human talent. All this library start. I had a stroke

1046
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: five years ago, and I then had another incident I

1047
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 4: don't know what they call it, and then a third one.

1048
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: Basically my blood pressure was out of control and causing

1049
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: me a lot of damage. And after the third one,

1050
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: Milkin heard about it and sentence driver to pick me up,

1051
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: and I said, I'm not going to Mike's office, I'm

1052
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 4: going home and had enough. And they said, now you

1053
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: don't understand. If I don't pick you up and take

1054
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 4: you home, take you to Mike's place. If I'll let

1055
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: you go home, I'll be five. So I let the

1056
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: guy drive me to Mike's office. He walks out, I'm

1057
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: going to have the coach here. I've got it in

1058
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 4: this in my West Point apartment and Mike comes out

1059
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: from her on the desk and gives me a hug.

1060
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 4: Mike is not a touchy feely guy. Mike is not

1061
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 4: an emotional guy. And he gives me a house and

1062
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: he says, you're trying to kill yourself, and I'm not

1063
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 4: gonna let you do it. You don't take good care

1064
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 4: of yourself, and we're all frustrated or scared for you.

1065
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 4: So what's gonna take. He calls his assistant in and says,

1066
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: how much do I have to pay you? I'll pay

1067
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 4: you every single month. You tell me the amount, I'll

1068
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: write you the first check right now? What do I

1069
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: have to pay you to stay alive? And at that moment,

1070
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 4: I thought, here's the smartest human being in the world

1071
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: on finance. He's the smartest person I've ever worked with,

1072
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 4: and he has to pay me to stay alive. And honestly, Skip,

1073
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 4: I lost it because I'm embarrassed. And I went from

1074
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty eight pounds the one hundred and

1075
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 4: seventy one in eight months. They gave me his trainer,

1076
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 4: gave me his nutritionist, and.

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Speaker 2: I got healthy.

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Speaker 4: Not that I've been healthy during this podcast, but that

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Speaker 4: was five years ago, and.

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Speaker 1: We'll limit it to Anthony Heat.

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Speaker 4: And that's been the story of my life all I

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Speaker 4: used to sing your song my Way when I would

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Speaker 4: get drunk a pen with my best friends and we

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Speaker 4: knew all the words. He would belt it out and

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Speaker 4: I am a horrible, horrible singer. But you know what,

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Speaker 4: over the last forty years, I have gone to know

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Speaker 4: some pretty cool people and they've been very kind to me,

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Speaker 4: and I'm grateful. And I'm about to get off this

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Speaker 4: podcast to moderate something that no one's ever done before,

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Speaker 4: black mail chump voters. I've gathered a dozen of them

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Speaker 4: from my own podcasts that'll go out later this week.

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Speaker 4: And my office is call me and yell at me

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Speaker 4: right now for not being on that. But I wanted

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Speaker 4: to do this with you and with Skip, and Skip

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Speaker 4: I'm grateful for giving me this opportunity because the idea

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Speaker 4: of having of sharing an hour with you, Paul, and

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Speaker 4: being able to thank Skip for being a part of

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Speaker 4: my life. I'm so grateful and so blessed and having

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Speaker 4: people like Mike milkn go out of their way to

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Speaker 4: keep me around. Oh lackey guy, And I'm grateful. And

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Speaker 4: this is my chance to say two words that we

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Speaker 4: don't say enough.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, well, thank you, thank you. You're the busiest

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Speaker 2: guy in town today, so the fact that you took

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Speaker 2: the time out to do this for two of your

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Speaker 2: pals means the world to Paul into me, and I mean,

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Speaker 2: I have to say, as long as I've known you,

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Speaker 2: I could listen to you for hours. A fascinating guy

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Speaker 2: and a wonderful friend. So thanks for doing this met you.

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Speaker 1: And for me also, Frank, I know you collect a

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Speaker 1: lot of memorabilia here, You've got stuff fall over the house.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bring you from me, something from my

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Speaker 1: archive in my humble presentation to you, hoping it fits

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Speaker 1: that wonderful life that you've been living. And I echo

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Speaker 1: everything about Mike. I've known him for years and he's

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Speaker 1: a very unusual, unusual human being, and you are Frank.

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Speaker 1: And I look forward to lunch real soon.

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Speaker 4: Okay, guys, I'm grateful, and please stay healthy and let's

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Speaker 4: do a hundred. I want to see a hundred of

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Speaker 4: your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Our Away with Paul Anke and Skip Bronson is a

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: The show's executive producer is Jordan Runtog, with supervising producer

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Speaker 3: and editor Marcy Depina.

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Speaker 1: It was engineered by Todd Carlin and Graham Gibson, mixed

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Speaker 1: and mastered by the wonderful Mary Do.

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Speaker 2: If you like what you're heard, please subscribe and leave

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Speaker 2: us a review.

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