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Speaker 1: Here we go the official show here on the Fish

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Speaker 1: Stripes Podcast. It's Eli Sussman hosting. Coming off a banner

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Speaker 1: week for the Fish Stripes Podcast, we had seven total

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Speaker 1: episodes up on this feed, and that's gonna be what

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Speaker 1: you can expect going forward from this week and especially

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Speaker 1: during the regular season, the official show starting you off

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Speaker 1: on Monday mornings, then on Tuesday through Friday, having our

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Speaker 1: new series, Big Fish Small Pod to get you caught

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Speaker 1: up on all the daily developments. Most weeks there will

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Speaker 1: be a second episode of the official show with another

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Speaker 1: Fish Stripe staffer or some special guests, hopefully coming up

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Speaker 1: later this week. We have a collaboration with Ram Layden

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Speaker 1: from the Lockdown Marlins Podcast. I'm sure we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of mutual listeners, and of course Marlon Barbecue with

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Speaker 1: Alex Contreras and red Garcia. They should be a pretty

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Speaker 1: common staple schedule permitting during this season as well, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna stay busy and obviously opportunities for emergency podcasts and

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Speaker 1: other special editions. So we thank you for everybody who's

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Speaker 1: been with us long term, and just as much appreciative

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Speaker 1: of everyone who's just hopped on here for the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one Miami Marlins season. Almost everything we do here

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Speaker 1: centered around the Marlins and how they're doing in the

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Speaker 1: present in the future. We get started, of course, with

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Speaker 1: the most recent Marlins games on Friday and Saturday. On

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Speaker 1: Sunday a very rare off day at the end of

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Speaker 1: the week weekend for the Marlins, with Friday focusing mostly

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Speaker 1: on the pitching. The Marlins one four to two over

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Speaker 1: the Mets. Pablo Lopez in his third start of the spring,

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive over four quality innings, charged with one run.

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Speaker 1: It should be noted that in the first inning he

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Speaker 1: Dominic Smith. I'm pretty sure and Starline Marte made that

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Speaker 1: him to see him throw it more often than he

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Speaker 1: did the curveball last season, and to make it really tough,

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Speaker 1: especially on right handed batters. Ross Dettweiler in this game,

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Speaker 1: bit in doubt. Had yet another rough outing and overall

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Speaker 1: now four appearances for him this spring. The obviously the

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Speaker 1: free agent signing he's been around a long time and

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Speaker 1: only expected to pitch out of the bullpen for the Marlins,

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Speaker 1: and it hasn't translated to the spring games yet. I

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Speaker 1: I'm still convinced that he'll be on the opening day roster.

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Speaker 1: As I just said before, left handed relievers is something

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Speaker 1: Moving on to Saturday, the only loss of the entire

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Speaker 1: Very good signs so far from him Corey Dickerson that

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Speaker 1: He obviously had a great winner in the Dominican Republic,

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Speaker 1: I imagine that's not going to keep up all the

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Speaker 1: hope for the universal designated hitter. Maddingly in particular, is

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what he showed in the minor leagues

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Speaker 1: so efficient with his pitches and he's so smart with

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Speaker 1: you look at his stuff in his mound presence, there

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Speaker 1: noticed last year that sometimes he releases his change up

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Speaker 1: game to what's going wrong with your mechanics. So those

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Speaker 1: be televised by the Astros TV crew, not directly on

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Speaker 1: and regardless of what happens, it's still a long way

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Speaker 1: in a single game setting, if the Marlins had a

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Speaker 1: and to be more consistent at just very excited to

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