1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. He'll that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: for a day? Ato Steak is that woo woof? And 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: them and tie. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the salibverbal, Boys and girls. My name 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: is Ty hilde Brand, that fine gentleman over there, the one, 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: the only, still, as always, the incomparable Dan Rubenstein, sir, 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: how are you? 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm good? I'm good. I'm always looking to maximize my preparation, 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: not in studying teams, not in figuring out how I 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: feel about games, but just how I treat myself ahead 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: of this show, I want to have energy. I want 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: to be a terrific listener to your points and taking 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: everything you're saying. So I want to I want to 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: maximize who I am physically, emotionally, mentally before this show. 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: A little bit beforehand, I did a quick, little ten 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: minute mindful meditation. And I know you already know me 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: to have elite mindfulness, but today I might be off 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: the charts. I'm just letting you know the mindfulness and 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: how centered I appear to be. An audio or video 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: form YouTube dot Com slash the solid verbal, it might 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: jump off the page to you the proverbial digital page. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: That's all. I just wanted to give you that warning 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: ahead of time that I'm feeling good. 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: You're very present, You're very in the moment here for 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: a week right here, I'm right here, is what you're saying. Well, 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: welcome one, Welcome all, Thank you for coming on back 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: here to help us talk through our picks and previews 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: and predictions for week three. 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We're very excited about this concept. 47 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: It is so it is so ridiculous that it is perfect. 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, any is anyone listening in New York? 49 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: I think people in New York still like us. If 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: you're listening in New York, We're gonna roll this thing 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: out here, I think on our next episode. 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: Right, that's probably slim. Yes, the most ridiculous live concept 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: we've probably ever to come up with. October seventh in 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: New York. Right, it's Friday, October seven, Friday, Solid verbal, 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: solid verballive dot com. You're not gonna want to miss 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: this one. Okay, is their news? Do we want to 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: start discussing the weekend? You lead me? Ty time, dude. 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: We talked about the news yesterday. Let's just jump right in. 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: Okay, three Week three. 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: I had a picnic on Labor Day, and I know 61 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: you had some stuff going where you cooked as well 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: on Labor Day, So I don't know what your fridge 63 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: status is, but I had a lot of leftovers after 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: that get together's been hiding out in there for a while, right, 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: You know how it is, You throw it and it 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: kind of works its way to the back corner. 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: You don't always check, you know. 68 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: I haven't need to check, but had some leftovers hiding 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: out back there. Well, Dan uh oh, I opened up 70 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: the fridge on Monday morning, and it was a bit 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: like a war zone in there. A few things had 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: clearly come of age when I wasn't paying attention. Grown 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: a little peach fuzz as well, just to prove the point. So, 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: in honor of the changing landscape of college football after 75 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: Week two, and to really state my case that Week 76 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: three will bring us hopefully more of the same, I 77 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: nominate stinky fridge Saturday. 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: That's pretty that's kind of a downer though, right, No. 79 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: I mean yes, But it depends on your frame of 80 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: frame of you here, your reference point. If you are 81 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: against Notre Dame, perhaps his cow game could give you 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: a reason to cheer for stinky fridge Saturday. Not everybody 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: is stinky in the fridge, Dan, most teams are, but 84 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: some are not. 85 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: Well. This would almost imply a hangover of sorts, a 86 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: letdown of sorts. Right, that something is left in the fridge, 87 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: that just shouldn't have hung around and is not feeling great. 88 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: It's not bad, it's not bad. I like stinky fridge Saturday. 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: My working theory is that there is one amazing team 90 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: in Georgia, there's one almost amazing team in Ohio State, 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: and then there is a large swath of the college 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: football ecosystem. 93 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: That is is. 94 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: Trolling about out there but has a fatal flaw. And 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: then also we've got Notre Dame in Texas A and M. 96 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. So to me, excellence is beside the point. I'm 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: not here for excellence other than Valley Circle Pizza. There's 98 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: not a lot excellent happening in my college football universe. 99 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: So what I have is, we're looking at teams across 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: the board in week one and week two, and we 101 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: are seeing some thick, meaty flanks. We are seeing two 102 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: and oh three and oh we're seeing explosive offenses. We're 103 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: seeing lockdown defenses. But it's against Kent State, it's against Troy, 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: it's against Alabama State. And in fact, we are being 105 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: distracted by those thick, meati excellence flanks. And you look 106 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: a little bit closer, and you look up top, and 107 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: it's a little more human looking perhaps after this weekend, 108 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: when some teams who have not been playing the biggest teams, 109 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: the toughest competition finally square off again, and I think 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: teams who are going to reveal some more human elements. 111 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: And for that I have this as Centaur Saturday. 112 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: Are you making that sound or is that a sound effect? 113 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: I did make that sound and I ran it through 114 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 1: a bunch of processing an Adobe audition. Whoa play that again? 115 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: What was that? I don't know what centaurs sound like, 116 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: because they're uncivilized legends of Greek mythology. So we don't 117 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: have audio recordings that the government hasn't already destroyed that 118 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: we know of. That we know of that we know of. 119 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: WHOA damn? That is haunting. 120 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: If there are any animals listening to this, I do apologize. 121 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Centaur Saturday. 122 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: We almost got to go of that, just so we 123 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: can use the sound again. 124 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: Oh stop it? Ooh you're welcome. That goes through me. 125 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Centaur, Centaur Saturday. What about this? I'm gonna leave 126 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: this one to you. Actually, I couldn't find a great window. 127 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: I'm genuinely interested in the full Monty Here the full 128 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: thing from Noon with Oklahoma Nebraska, which I think is 129 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: way more interesting. It was interesting to begin with, but 130 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: it's certainly interesting now given what's going on at Nebraska. 131 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: The three point thirty block is really interesting to me, 132 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: obviously because of Penn State Auburn, but also BYU Oregon 133 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: for you. The nightcap, I think brings with it a 134 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: fair amount of stinky fridge potential. We could see some 135 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: action late into the night. The Miami Texas A and 136 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: M game doesn't kick off till nine Eastern time, so 137 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna be it could be a Betty Buy situation 138 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: for both hosts of the Solid Verbal before this one 139 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: is through. But there's a lot of action going on 140 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 2: the full way through. 141 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: I enjoyed genuinely that both ESPN, ABC and Fox are 142 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: going in different directions and where they're putting their biggest games. 143 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: It's like the race to nine blades on your razors. Screw, 144 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 1: we're going nine eastern, so we're going ten eastern, Screw, 145 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: We're going five am to show you Alabama Auburn. Yeah, 146 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's fun. We have fun on the Solid Rubble. 147 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't think there's an obvious window to skip, but 148 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't think there's an obvious window to set your 149 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: alarms to, if that makes any sense, that there's no clear, obvious, 150 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: attractive headliner unless your team is playing a relatively big 151 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: game itself, and there's no clear window where you're like, 152 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: don't watch this. So I just say hang around, Yeah, 153 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: hang around, don't get too far away from a TV. 154 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: That's all I like it. I like it. 155 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: No window this week, Dan, No, absolutely window is shut. 156 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: Let's go right into it. High nute on Fox. 157 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: It's the big noons Saturday game. 158 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: It is Moklahoma minus eleven on the road at Nebraska. 159 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: Trev Alberts decided no Moss, No Moss. He couldn't wait 160 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: a couple weeks until October first, when Scott Frost buy 161 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: out that I'm sure everyone's heard about by now, but 162 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: the buyout would have gone down. How to make the 163 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: move now? And so we've arrived at this weird moment 164 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: in college football that we knew was coming all along, 165 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,359 Speaker 2: where every coach with Midwestern roots is rumored to Nebraska. 166 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Go back and listen to the show from yesterday for 167 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: our full discussion on the matter. But it does set 168 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: up at least an interesting dynamic here for the weekend 169 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: between two traditional old school Big twelve rivals. 170 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Big twelve Big eight. Yeah. Absolutely. By the way, just 171 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: on the topic of Scott Frost Nebraska, that job opening 172 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: is going to make so many people some cash extensions. 173 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's going to be James Franklin in the Central time 174 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: zone with the Nebraska job. Everybody's going to leverage interest. 175 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Matt Campbell might make twenty million dollars next from Iowa state. 176 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: Good for everybody. We get that. That leverage, that's stocking 177 00:09:58,559 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: horse in. 178 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: We are already content, as we discussed on the week 179 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: two recap episode, to talk ourselves into Nebraska plus the 180 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: points just for comedy's sake after the loss last weekend. 181 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: So I am. 182 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: Following suit here Dan. This is what we do on 183 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: the show The Yokos Home Dog of the Week. Oh 184 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: right off the bat, just get into this thing, hot 185 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: and heavy. I was delighted to learn that these sharp 186 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: betters in Vegas are overwhelmingly taking Nebraska as well. And 187 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: this is after the news about Scott Frost was out there. 188 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: So for those listening, what's a sharp better? What does 189 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: that mean? The sharp betters are the guys who pay 190 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: the bills with the bets the pro betters, not the 191 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: idiots like you and me. The line opened around Oklahoma 192 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: minus thirteen and a half. As you just heard, it's 193 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: down to eleven, which is pretty significant movement. That's a 194 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: lot of line movement. My question to you is what 195 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: angle do we want to take here? I saw one 196 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: set of updated projections that has Oklahoma going twelve and 197 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: oh this season, So we could really get some views 198 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: if we say that Oklahoma just isn't as good with 199 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: Brent Vennables, if we want to go that approach with this. Yeah, 200 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: but obviously Nebraska here will be up for this game 201 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: and to whatever extent they can be within interim coach 202 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: and a weird situation. Are you still content to go 203 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: Nebraska plus the points as I am. 204 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I am not thrilled with it, but I'm content 205 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: to do it just because of what we know or 206 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: really don't know about Oklahoma. And that's just a big 207 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: number that we are not positive. But we had the 208 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: slow start last week, and a lot of teams are 209 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: going to start slow week one, week two, whatever. We 210 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: get that, but we just don't know what to expect 211 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma on the road, and we know Nebraska 212 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: can move the ball. We know that there's an offense 213 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: in there sometimes at times whatever they've moved the ball 214 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: against everybody that they've played, granted, not a great schedule 215 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: thus far, and we know Oklahoma's defense appears to be 216 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: much improve but again against whom so on that level. 217 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: If we're to believe that there is a cloud not 218 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: hanging over Nebraska anymore, in the will they won't they 219 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: Scott Frost and the pressure that he was under, and 220 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: maybe maybe people feel that weight off their shoulders in 221 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: the Nebraska locker room. Mickey Joseph takes over obviously a 222 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: Nebraska legacy, you know, deeply intertwined with that program, and 223 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: so maybe there's that fresh start element. I don't think 224 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: Nebraska is going to get appreciably better because there's certain 225 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: things like I don't think this defense is going to 226 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: be average to above average this year. It doesn't appear 227 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,119 Speaker 1: to be the case. But just in terms of numbers 228 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: and where the line's at about two touchdowns. 229 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: Fourteen was what it opened. It opened at thirteen and 230 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: a half, it's down to eleven. 231 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, okay, so I'm still going to take Nebraska 232 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: here to lose by seven or ten points, but maybe 233 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: four stretches of this game feeling a little bit reinvigorated, 234 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: and like Anthony Grant, it's a good running back. I 235 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: think Casey Thompson can make plays. I think they're smart minds, 236 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: you know Mark Whipple with this offense, So I think 237 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: they're going to do enough to hang around and feel 238 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: that reinvigoration for the Huskers at home. 239 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this. I think may come back to 240 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: what I've said all along about shootouts. 241 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: To take the points. 242 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: Take the points if you're getting more than a touchdown, 243 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: and a shootout, And the only way that this could 244 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: go if we want this plus eleven thing to cash 245 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: is a shootout. If you look at the advanced numbers 246 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: that we talk about a lot, Nebraska's success rates on 247 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: offense are appreciably better than they are on defense. They're 248 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: terrible on defense against both the run and the pass. 249 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: They don't discriminate because they're friendly, But on offense they're 250 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: not bad, genuinely not bad. 251 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: So I suppose the phrase all time great game for 252 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Helenski is not the greatest reputation builder for this Nebraska. 253 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: It's not on the rest, it's not on the resume. 254 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: Now they omitted that one. Yeah, so I agree with you. 255 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot we don't know about Oklahoma, and I 256 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: do believe that brand Vnables is a very good defensive coach. 257 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: But this is clearly the first offense they've seen all year. 258 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: It's not a bad offense. So plus eleven at home, 259 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: weight of the world, weight of Scott Frost off the 260 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: Nebraska shoulders. I'm pretty excited about this game. I'm pretty excited. 261 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Kind of a rivalry game, right I okay, so yeah, 262 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: oh no, it is a rivalry game historically. The thing 263 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: that I'm not excited for is is Nebraska a cancuon 264 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: team already? That's the worry the one that could also Yeah, 265 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: this could also be forty eight to ten, right that 266 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: this is just like, well, we're in a lame duck 267 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: situation and it's only week three or four whatever for 268 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: Nebraska game number four, am I right? Yes? And we 269 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: already see the long road ahead of an interim staff. Now, 270 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: maybe Mickey Joseph is twenty fourteen coach O thirteen fourteen 271 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: and somewhere in there where everybody rallies around him and 272 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: they like him, but he's a new coach. There I 273 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm still going to take the points, but 274 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: you have to recognize the potential of completely going sideways 275 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: immediately after the firing of Scott Frost, because everybody's ready 276 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: to figure out their next move. 277 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: There is also an angle here that this is a 278 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: team conditioned to lose by single digits. True, it happened 279 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: nine times last year and twice already this year. And 280 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: if you look at the schedule, maybe outside of Oklahoma, 281 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: you could probably make a case that with their offense, 282 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: of the games that they might lose in the schedule, 283 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: they could all be by one score again, which would 284 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: be just insanity. If you're a Nebraska fan, to lose 285 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: again by one score more times, you'd almost rather get 286 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: blown out. I don't think they get blown out here. 287 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: I think their offense is good enough to keep this 288 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: one close. So I'm going Nebraska plus the points at home. 289 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Homedog of the Week. Right at this we agree, which 290 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: is probably a good thing, because we've been very wrong, 291 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: very wrong. Ax. 292 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: Next game on Fox, b y you on the road 293 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: at Oregon, Oregon favored by three and a half. 294 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Dan. 295 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: When we last left our heroes in Eugene, they were 296 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: terrorizing something named Gunner Talkington who plays quarterback for Eastern. 297 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: Washington something not somebody something entity. 298 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: Yes, sounds like a cartoon bo Nick's five touchdown passes 299 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: last week. Oregon had thirty eight first downs. They outgained 300 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: Eastern by almost five hundred yards. 301 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, BYU went. 302 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: To overtime and knocked off Baylor. 303 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: It's a good win. That's a good win win. 304 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: I don't think Baylor is that good. I'm gonna be 305 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: real with you, m So, I'm not gonna overreact to it. 306 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: But it's a good win. It's a good win. 307 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: Certainly worse opponents out there than the reigning Big twelve champions. 308 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to help me on this one, dude. 309 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: I need help because I am I am now, as 310 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: I have been since early June, confident that b YU 311 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: is at least top twenty five caliber. 312 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: I think this is one of the Pac twelve last year, 313 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: right five teams or something. 314 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like a stretch to me that 315 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 2: they would go to Eugene and win. But if they 316 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: are trying to mount any kind of playoff argument, which 317 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: with their schedule, you could certainly say there's one that 318 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: one to be made if they go and win all 319 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: the games. It's a stretch for me that they go 320 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: to Eugene and win. 321 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: Right. 322 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 2: The line also tells me that BYU would probably be 323 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: a slight favorite on a neutral field, maybe at home, 324 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: which I also don't know if I buy with Organ 325 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: because I just don't know. I don't know what we 326 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: have here with the Ducks, and I was hoping you 327 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: can help me. 328 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: I'll try, I'll try to help you. So you mentioned 329 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: the bon Nick stats. He did not throw down the 330 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: field against Eastern Washington. Now you can say, well, they 331 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: don't want to show too much ahead of BYU in 332 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve season, But Lane, you should just be 333 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: able to throw down the field against Eastern Washington. You 334 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: should go to the third level in your passing game 335 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: and go deep. They didn't. They just didn't. They didn't 336 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: try much, and they didn't exceeded all going deep downfield. 337 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: And so to me, that's a you know, that's your 338 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: uh what is it, Ashanti? The trust issue? Trust babe? Yeah, 339 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: And so I don't feel as if Oregon fully trust 340 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: Bonnicks to make high leverage, big moment throws downfield to 341 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: change the complexion of any what are people on your. 342 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 2: Secret organ boards saying about Bonix right now, is that 343 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: curio of. 344 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: The dark web, the Duck dark the Duck web? Is that? 345 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: Is that? Okay? Sure, I don't think there's a lot 346 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: of confidence among the Duck fan base in bon Nicks, 347 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: just because we've seen him once as an Oregon QB 348 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: against a Power five team or a FBS team of 349 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: substance and he was fine. But it's short stuff. He 350 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: seems to be picklebald himself the way that by U 351 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: pickleballd Baylor last week, keeping the keeping the field real 352 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: short and tiny. And I am I am positive Oregon 353 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: is more talented than b Yu b Yu beat up 354 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: at receiver. We saw what Puka Nukua and I think 355 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: it was gonna Romney is a Romney at least not 356 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: playing that Baylor game, which changed the complexion of their offense. 357 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: And so I'm a little bit worried about Oregon. On 358 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. They have a ton of 359 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: skill talent that's super intriguing. So if they can creatively 360 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: get the ball to receivers and running backs. They've got 361 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: three four running backs that they trust, four or five 362 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: receivers that they trust. Organ's beat up on defense a 363 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: little bit. At linebacker. They don't really get after the 364 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: quarterback super well up front, like they don't have that 365 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: cave on Thibodeau, obvious edge replacement who is having success. 366 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: There are pieces in the secondary, but not obvious all 367 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: conference type pieces other than maybe Christian Gonzalez at one 368 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: of those corner spots, So that worries me. I think 369 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: BYU is a more operational, high level team on both 370 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, even though they had defensive questions 371 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: after last year. They're tested and came through last week 372 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: without playmakers. If those guys are healthy, I think it's 373 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: BYU here. I think it's BYU. There's just there's something 374 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: that's not yet dependable about Oregon, but it's at home 375 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: and they're more talented. WHI worries me about taking that 376 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: road team. I'm still taking BYU. I'm still taking the 377 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: Cougars in Autson because of the wildcard factor at quarterback 378 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: and the lack of trust. 379 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: It seems BYU going to and winning at Oregon would 380 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: be huge. That'd be a big deal for that program. 381 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: And I have been really high on this team. I 382 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: constantly this week as I was going through and trying 383 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: to research this game, constantly had to pinch myself, like, 384 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: am I really going to take BYU on the road 385 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: in auntson? Because just doesn't feel like something we would 386 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: say that often about the BYU. Really any group of 387 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: five team, it's a tough place to go and play 388 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: and win. But Oregon is in transition. I'm not going 389 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: to say they're Notre Dame. They're not Notre Dame, but 390 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: they're in a similar spot to Notre Dame and that 391 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 2: they're still trying to figure out what they are and 392 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: new quarterback, what have you. There's an opportunity here with BYU, 393 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: I think, especially in the trenches from the Oregon standpoint, 394 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: to get a push up front and lablish themselves. BYU 395 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 2: has been pretty good defensing the run. They have not 396 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: been very good at creating any havoc plays. So this 397 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: is not a team that through two games anyway, has 398 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: really done much along the way of creating havoc with 399 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: its defensive front or even with its secondary right. This 400 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: could be an opportunity for bow Knicks to maybe stretch 401 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: the field a little bit more with the passing game. 402 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: I do feel though like BYU is much more of 403 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: a known quantity at this point, Like you said, they're 404 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more tested. The win against Baylor was 405 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: really nice on a couple levels. 406 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Situationally, it's a terrible spot though for BYU. Right it's 407 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: a really a big emotional win late at night to 408 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: go to a very difficult place to play in Austin 409 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: Stadium against a talented top twenty five ish team. I 410 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: think they're number twenty five in the A people right now. 411 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: That's a Situationally, it's a it's a tough ask for 412 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: the Cougars. 413 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: It is a tough ask. So I am going to 414 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: go with BYU as well. I'm going to go a 415 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: BYU plus three and a half in this one, if 416 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: only because it's about trust, babe, and I don't trust 417 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: bo Nicks. I don't trust bo Nicks. If there's one 418 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: thing that we've come to know in the story tenure 419 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: of Bo Nicks as a starting quarterback at the power 420 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: five level, can't really trust them. 421 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: Last year we got closer to. 422 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: Trusting him because they took some of the pressure off them, 423 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: and there were definitely moments before he got hurt where 424 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: he was more trustworthy and definitely played a different style 425 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: of game. I don't know if that's what Oregon's going 426 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: to try to do here with them. I don't know 427 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: if they have the capacity beyond bo Nicks to lean 428 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: on other playmakers to get their points. So until further notice, 429 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: Until further notice, Yeah, BYU plus three and a half. 430 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem here is if we think these teams 431 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: are pretty close to each other in terms of there's 432 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: a few matchups like this, it's okay, Organ's down twenty 433 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: seven to twenty three with three and a half minutes left. 434 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: What's the trust level from an Oregon fan base on 435 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: their couch that Bonix is going to lead them down 436 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: the field for eighty one yards And it's not especially high. 437 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: It just isn't. And so that's the difference maker to 438 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: me that I would trust BYU in that spot a 439 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: little bit more than I would trust Oregon. 440 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: The cool thing in this game. Have you watched much 441 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 2: of Jaren Hall? 442 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 443 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: Jaren Hall's got a holitzer of an arm. Yeah, he 444 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: is a henon for an arm and he's fun to watch. 445 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: He's a good player. 446 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree again. 447 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: Two year Row three CBS Penn State going down south 448 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: to Auburn. They are a three point road favorite. This 449 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: game I think highlights the beauty of being a big 450 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: time fan of one team but an alumni of another. 451 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: You can just. 452 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: Easily transition out from the Notre Dame thing and right 453 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: on over to my Penn State Nitney Lyons doesn't raise 454 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: any suspicion. 455 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: No, that's with me and Michigan. Where oh Oregon loses 456 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: by forty six, it turns out, yeah, went to Michigan. 457 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: So me and JJ McCarthy and I are lockstaff here. 458 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: And that's that's how I feel about Penn State Week 459 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: one as a win. It was a clunker, but it 460 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: was a win. Definitely left a lot to be desired 461 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: on the Penn State side. Last week, though last week 462 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: was given me the vapor. Last week was last week. 463 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: They ran it really well against the one hundred and 464 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: fifth best rush defense in America. Excuse me, wonderful frog 465 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: in my throat. I think it's fair to say Penn 466 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: State now officially living that Singleton life, and I believe 467 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: it's only a matter of time I still do before 468 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: we see Drew Aller as a starting quarterback. Not gonna 469 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: happen against Auburn unless something happens to Sean Clifford. But 470 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: in due time, James Franklin will eventually come to his senses, 471 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 2: probably after their first loss this season, and insert him 472 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: as a starting quarterback because he is better. 473 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: And can we start? Can we start a podcast within 474 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: a podcast called The Aller Hour, And as soon as 475 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: Drew Aller takes over that job, we come up with 476 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: a new theme song and we're like, all right, welcome 477 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: and maybe it's like a late night dedication type Welcome 478 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: to the Aller Hour. You're here with Tyan Dan. We're 479 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: discussing all things improve Penn State offense and make it 480 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: sort of an ASMR experience. Is that too much or 481 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: is that just enough? 482 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: No? 483 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: I think that's just enough. 484 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: We can pull We can use this sound. 485 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: That's too intense. I want smooth. 486 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: All right, Well you can come up with that, since 487 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: you're the one does the talk ups. Oh God, don't 488 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: do that scares me. Continue the Aller Hour. Yeah, we 489 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: can work on that, but it will happen this season. 490 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: I am high on Pen State. I'm really high in 491 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: Penn State in this matchup because I think Auburn. I 492 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: believe Auburn is all Tank Pigsby on offense and I 493 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: don't believe that that will be good enough, multi pronged 494 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: enough to beat this defense. That is my core belief 495 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: in this game. Penn State's got enough talent in the 496 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: secondary that they can stack the box, they can play 497 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: tight man coverage, which we know many Diaz is going 498 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: to like to do blitz the farm on TJ. Finley, 499 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: and because he's neither a runner nor an accurate thrower, 500 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: he will first force turnovers. 501 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 502 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: That is my core belief in this game. And because 503 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: of that matchup, that's why I like Penn State minus 504 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: the number. I don't want to lock this up. I 505 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: don't want to jinx Penn State. My locks have not 506 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: been good this year. If you've been paying attention at home, 507 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: I apologize my locks have not been good. But this 508 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: is on that level for me of a lockworthy game. Interestingly, 509 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of action on Auburn plus three, 510 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: so if you're someone who does like to wager, I 511 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: don't see this line going up to like three and 512 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: a half four. Maybe I'm wrong, I've been wrong many 513 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: times this year. I could see it, if anything, coming 514 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: down to Penn State minus two and a half, so 515 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: I might wait on that front. But I am very 516 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: very high on Penn State in this game. 517 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: Past the mustard, passed the onions, past the pickles. Auburn 518 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: my home dog of the week, the Yokos home dog 519 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: of the week. 520 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: You made a weird weekend for you, having to not 521 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: pick but having to trust bon Nicks and now Brian Harrison. Yeah, 522 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: same time block here. Three thirty is going to be 523 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: active for Dan Rubinstein. 524 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: It'll be very active for me. I said it in 525 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: the off season. I'm sticking to it. I believe Auburn's defense. 526 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Tank Pigsby and that's also a strength. 527 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: But I think Auburn's defense is a strength of this team. Obviously, 528 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: they hung around a bit longer than they should have 529 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: last week against San Jose State, but that was obviously 530 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: turnovers offense and questions at quarterback, all sorts of big 531 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: deal things. Then it comes down to winning college football 532 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: games defense at home, as an underdog in a tough 533 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: place to play, I'm going I'm going to conduct the 534 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Underthink Express once again, and I'm gonna give those points. 535 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: I am sorry, Ty, sorry, I hate that pick for you. 536 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 2: I hate that pick for you. You know I root 537 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: you on as one of my true best friends in 538 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: this world. Yeah, I hate that pick for you. 539 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay. I'm rolling with Auburn because I 540 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: am sticking to what built the altar of Dan, Tye 541 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: Brick let me find it by Breck. We built the 542 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: Altar of Dan with some certain ideas and theories, and 543 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: one of them is at least good defense at home 544 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: in a tough place to play as an underdog. Roll 545 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: with it. 546 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: We shall see we disagree for the first time. I'm 547 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 2: going It's okay all Penn State. I'm excited. Moving on 548 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: six pm Eastern ESPN. Mississippi State. Your Mississippi State Bulldogs 549 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: minus two and a half now on the road at LSU. 550 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: Interesting factoid that may only interest SEC homers. Through two weeks, 551 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels leads the SEC and quarterback rating. Okay, I 552 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: would say that would almost certainly change after this week 553 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: against Mississippi State, but at least through two weeks. A 554 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: nice unexpected surprise for an LSU team that I think 555 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 2: is still looking its wounds a little bit after that 556 00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: Week one loss against Florida State. To balance that out, 557 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: that unbridled enthusiasm out I saw a couple of projections 558 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: that have LSU as basically a stiff breeze away from 559 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: a four and eight season. So talk about feast or famine, 560 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: you've got You've got a little bit of both here. 561 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: I think that's mostly because of the schedule. It would 562 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: be great for those of us with an axe to 563 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: grind with Brian Kelly if they went four and eight. 564 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: But I still believe, as I know you do, that 565 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: this is a pretty good team that they're they're finding 566 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: their way here and they'll be Yeah, they'll be fine 567 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: even against a tough schedule. So where are you at 568 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: with this game? Because I know you like LSU generally speaking, 569 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: you like the town on the roster. You're also higher 570 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: than any person I've ever met on Mississippi State. 571 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: This is really tough because I was high on LSU 572 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: to start the season and high on Mississippi State. LSU 573 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: wod You say a two and a half point dog 574 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: at home? Yep, A little bit beat up on both 575 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. And you mentioned the Jade and 576 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: Daniels thing. I don't fully trust him either. This one's 577 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: tough for me. Here's the question is what is this 578 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: number if LSU. And this is not a real reality 579 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: based question, but if LSU does a little bit more 580 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: on special teams and wins that game against Florida State, 581 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: what does that number look like. Is that LSU minus 582 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: a point and a half they win that game. 583 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a pick them. Yeah. 584 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: I just think there are things that went wrong in 585 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: that game that are extremely correctable in two weeks. Finding 586 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: somebody to catch punts, figuring out field goal and extra 587 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: point protection. Not saying that everything else is roses for LSU. 588 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of issues still to be worked out 589 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: early on. I think Mississippi State's second consecutive game on 590 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: the road, late night game in the Desert am I 591 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: right against Arizona last week, kind of a sloppy game. 592 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to take LSU here. I'm going to take LSU, 593 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: even though I think Mississippi State is more advanced and 594 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: more evolved as a program right now, just because of 595 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Mike Leach being there for years now. But there is 596 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: something about LSU at home, and I still think they're 597 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: going to have a pretty good defense, and I'm just 598 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: going to stick with the you know, the altar of 599 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: Dan the etho involved in building. It's like the Basilica 600 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: right in Spain that they've been building since nineteen twenty six, 601 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: still unfinished. Just it's beautiful, beautiful, beautiful build up. 602 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: I'm going with LSU here. I've decided the rest of 603 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: the season. I am picking LSU. Maybe for the rest 604 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: of eternity. He's as long as Brian Kelly is there. 605 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: I am picking LSU games based solely on how Brian 606 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: Kelly did in similar situations at Notre Dame. Okay, I 607 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: think that is my lane, that is my goal. The 608 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: rub on Brian Kelly at Notre Dame, other than being 609 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: kind of a disingenuous prick, but we'll go to a 610 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: different place with this. The rub on him was winnable games. 611 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: What is a winnable game? It's subjective, right, but I'm 612 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: talking about the games that are there for the taking, 613 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 2: and he still finds a way to either underperformer end 614 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: up losing. Those are the winnable games. Frankly, like the 615 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: Florida State game in Week one, it's always something, always 616 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: finds a way that its first game there. Now it's lost, 617 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: but doesn't change its spots man. 618 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Tiger Stripes Tiger. 619 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, same deal. Yah, Elis you could have won that game. 620 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: They could have won that game, but the special teams 621 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: woes definitely got in their way. It's just it's always 622 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: something with this guy. 623 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: So do you you you honestly think LSU will just 624 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: what they showed in Game one. That's just who they 625 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: are forever more under Brian Kelly. 626 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: That's they have assumed his identity the way he has 627 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: assumed theirs. And there and they're eleven games a year Kelly, Yeah, 628 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly is now becoming Yes, my sense is that a 629 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: Mississippi State is the better team at this point, as 630 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: you said, more of all because the team is a program, 631 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: which is why I am taking them to win here. 632 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: I do believe this is a winnable game. I have 633 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: no idea honestly who's winning. I am picking on a 634 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: hope and a prayer that I have content to discuss 635 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: and joke around about on Sunday morning when we record 636 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: our Week three recap show. This is gonna be a 637 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: good game. I am excited to actually watch this football, 638 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly side, because I would like to see LSU 639 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: continue taking a step forward. 640 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: Right. 641 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: Last week was a really good showing on offense, albeit 642 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: against substandard competition. Mississippi State's a much different test, and 643 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: Mississippi State has. 644 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Looked very good through two weeks. 645 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: There is something to that warming of the tires effect 646 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 2: that we've talked about throughout the course of this season. 647 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: With week zero right having an early start to get 648 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: your ducks in a row, Mississippi States look good so far. 649 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: They have looked good, and they've had a good chance 650 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: to figure out what ails them early. This is a 651 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: veteran team. I like them at home or well, I 652 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: like them. I like them even though they're not at home, 653 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: even though they have to go to LSU to win 654 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: this game. 655 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: Isn't there something to Mike Leach Mississippi State though, that's like, yeah, 656 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: sometimes they'll just go down twenty seven to three. There 657 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: is there is. There's just something where like, yeah, they 658 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: were up twenty eight to ten and lost, like there 659 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: is there's there are dramatic swings to the Mike Leach 660 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: Mississippi State experiment thus far. It's a little bit in games. 661 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: It's a little bit like trading bitcoin. There's a little 662 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: bit of that crypto feel to Mississippi State. That is 663 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: worrying and is not for the faint of heart. 664 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's all I'm saying, when you also could be. 665 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: A huge fraud there. Really, there's a lot of parallel there. 666 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: So we've reviewed everything. Mississippi State is both a well 667 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: oiled machine, there are many different things in terms of 668 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: variants over the course of the game, or they're a 669 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: fraud tight no matter what happens, we're right, We're good. 670 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: Good bye, every single base we called it. 671 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Mississippi State minus two and a half is my pick. 672 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: Okay, we just agree. 673 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: Seven pm ESPN two, Texas Tech on the road at 674 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: NC State. I look at this game and I say, wow, Wow, what. 675 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: An interesting matchup. Wow Wow Wow interesting matchup Tech. Wow. 676 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: I think Tech is still catching its breath from a 677 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: week ago after beating Houston in overtime. In terms of significance, 678 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: that game is way more important than this one. Now 679 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: you're traveling across the country. Where is this Raleigh? 680 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: Raleigh? Where is NC State? 681 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 2: Now? 682 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: Where they playing their games these days? Carter family? Yeah? 683 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: What is this? Where is this on a map? Show 684 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: it to me. I just don't know if Tech's going 685 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: to be as up for this game as they might 686 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: be against an in state foe, so I maintain I'm 687 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: sticking to the script here. NC State is a top 688 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: fifteen caliber team, and they're easy to forget about because 689 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: the Week one game they should have lost to ECU 690 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: should have lost that game. But this is still a 691 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: veteran team, should be a ten point favorite. Is a 692 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 2: ten point favorite. I think if you factor in the travel, 693 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: the situation, the fact that Tech is still basically rebooting 694 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 2: with a young, albeit exciting quarterback, is a fourteen point 695 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 2: win for NC State. 696 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: I really like the wolf Pack here. Yeah, they have 697 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: yukon next week, so it's not a look ahead spot 698 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: for NC State, though Clemson in a cuple weeks, I 699 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: think it's October first what I'm seeing here, So that's 700 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: not a big situation to look at. NC State Lock 701 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: of the week for Dan Rubins. Really yeah, Louck of 702 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: the week, emotional win, what double ot win over Houston travel, 703 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: NC State getting it back together. I don't love, love, 704 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: love Tim Beck in huge games. I don't know it's 705 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: a huge game. I think it's a routine win. I 706 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: don't love the offense for NC State the way it's 707 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: it's drawn up. All that much. I think they can 708 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: move the ball against Texas Tech. I have them winning 709 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: this game thirty four to seventeen. Can I get in 710 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: on this walk with you? Oh my god, the double barrel? 711 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: Can I get in with you? Is that? Okay? Please 712 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: do it? Yeah, I go for it. Lock of the Week. 713 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: You're talking me into it. But you're you're mister gumpy, right, 714 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: you're mister Texas Tech is going to disrupt. They're they're 715 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: the startup disruptors of college football in twenty twenty two. 716 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: They beat they beat Houston. Yeah, they beat Houston. They'll 717 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 2: beat somebody else into Big twelve. I'm not saying they're 718 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: going twelve and oh, nine and three, even eight and four, 719 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: but this is a scenario for them that is not favorable. 720 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're jumping off the kittley catamaran. 721 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah I am, okay, just briefly. 722 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: You'll swim back. 723 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: Seven point thirty ABC, Michigan State on the Road at Washington. 724 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: Weird weird vibes from this matchup is centaur match But 725 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: if I've ever heard one, tie, I gotta find the sound. 726 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm stalling. 727 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: He gives me the willies. 728 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: It's like a centaur is doing pillow talk with you. Tie. 729 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: That's like that delapisaurus that spit all over Newman in 730 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 2: Jurassic Park. It makes that kind of sound. 731 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: Good reference. 732 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, neutral field, I've got. Michigan State is an eight 733 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 2: point favorite in this game. 734 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: Can you believe that there's a weird swing to this? 735 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, weird swing. This game is in Seattle. I would 736 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: still have Michigan State favored by like five points if 737 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: I were setting the odds. So at least to that end, 738 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 2: a Washington minus three line is like eight points off 739 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: of what I would expect. So the puzzle is Washington. 740 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: The puzzle is Washington played Kent State and Portland State, 741 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 2: and good luck trying to convert those statistics over to 742 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: projections while playing a Big ten opponent like Michigan State. 743 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: I don't know how the hell you do that. I'm 744 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: sure Bill Connolly's got away, but I don't know how 745 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: to do it. 746 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: That is the puzzle for me. Okay. 747 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: I looked far and wide to see what other points 748 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: of reference I have. 749 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: There aren't many. 750 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: Michael Penix played Michigan State twice while he was in Indiana, 751 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: once in twenty nineteen, once in twenty twenty in both 752 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: cases he lit him up, but obviously obviously a lot's 753 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: changed since then. Yeah, what I know is that this 754 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 2: offense is going to be better with Kaylin Deboorr running things. 755 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: I think we've already seen that. 756 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 2: I'm just not sure how much better and how quickly 757 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: it could get there, especially against a team like in 758 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: Michigan State for this week. It's a huge unknown. I 759 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: have no idea. I think Michigan State is more playmaker. 760 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: I think so, and I think I trust Meltucker more 761 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: in a game like this than I do Kalin Debor. 762 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 2: But this is a crazy, weird matchup that scares the 763 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: crap out of me. 764 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: Watching a tough place to play. That place can get loud. 765 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: This is the first big game of the season. I 766 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: think people are energized for the Debora, the Debor era. 767 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: That's good. That's pretty good. That's good. I like it. 768 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: I do like that. Look, Michigan State is probably good, 769 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: Washington is maybe good. We've got a double centaur matchup. 770 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: I'm leaning Michigan State, though I did have cause for 771 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: pause and looking at some of the stories this week. 772 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: Did you see the thing about Peyton Thorn and the 773 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: Sleep Bank. This sleep Bank. They were told they could 774 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: not sleep more than thirty minutes on their flight west 775 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: as they were adjusting to the Pacific time zone. And 776 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: then he said, it's a sleep bank thing. Look it up. 777 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Sleep bank, Michigan State adhering to something called and look, 778 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: it might be extremely legit or it might be bogus. 779 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a fancy scientist, but I 780 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: know that Michigan State is all in on maximizing their 781 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: sleep bank as they adjust to the Pacific time zone, 782 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: sort of like a body clock situation, if you will. 783 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes you think more highly 784 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: of Michigan State that they're taking this kind of this 785 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: kind of matchup far away from East landsing seriously. 786 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 2: Sleep Bank told me that quote one more time. 787 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: Sleep Okay. You want me to find you the exact 788 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: Peyton Thorn quote. 789 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: If it's easy for you to find, But I okay, 790 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: sleep Bank. 791 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: I feel like. 792 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: I feel like sleep science these days. I mean, we 793 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: had the LSU sleep pods thing as an attraction that 794 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: we talked about a few years ago, and sleep is 795 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: obviously very important. I've never heard sleep bank. 796 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: Okay. Peyton Thorn a native This is from I'm gonna 797 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: this is from m live yep in Michigan. I think 798 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: the farthest past Illinois I've been is Iowa out west, 799 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: Thorn said on Tuesday, that's uncharted territory for me out there. 800 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: The process players, Okay, so Michigan State is saying that 801 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: they are asked to Michigan State is asking their players 802 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: to go to sleep an hour earlier each night this 803 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: week in preparation for the travel. The process players said 804 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: is called quote sleep banking. It's a theory that extra 805 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: rest will help lead to peak performance. Now, I'm a 806 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: big believer in that. As an elite athlete, tie, I'm 807 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: always a big believer in maximizing sleep. I have a 808 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: huge match for sure. But you start getting into terms. 809 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: I never love terms like sleep bank. Oh, I don't 810 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: like this at all. As Andrew in the comments watching 811 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: along Live said sleep bank Saturday, I appreciate sleeping a major, 812 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: major performance deal. We're all better off sleeping more than 813 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: we are. Probably I would never be able to do this. 814 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't go to bed two hours early. Yeah, I 815 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: would not be able to do this. I would wake up. 816 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 2: I would be a monster. I would be the centaur sound. 817 00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: Don't play it. 818 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 2: Don't play that sound again with this one. No, don't 819 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 2: put I'm editing it out. That's what I would be. 820 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 2: I would not be able to do this. 821 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 822 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 2: So I'm worried. I'm worried about my Michigan State pick. 823 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: Sleep bank it. I think Sleep's a great thing, So 824 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna lean into it. Ty. I have no 825 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: idea if it's real or focus. I'd have no clue. 826 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: I could research more, but I'm just not going to. 827 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm going with Michigan State here really more because I 828 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: trust Peyton Thorn with the rhythm of this team. I 829 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: trust Meltucker, I trust the transfers being worked in seamlessly, 830 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: probably more so than where Washington's roster is at the moment. 831 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: But I think Washington's gonna be pretty good. I do 832 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be good this weekend. I think they're 833 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: gonna be good, pretty good overall. I just think it's 834 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: asking a lot against a Michigan State team who is 835 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: a just ahead. They're just ahead right now. Tough place 836 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: to play, don't love haven't loved what they've looked like 837 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: on the road at times these past couple of years. 838 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: But I haven't loved, but Washington has looked like on 839 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: the road these past couple of years. 840 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, we're going double Michigan State here, 841 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: the double Michigan State nine PM, ESPN, Miami at Texas 842 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 2: A and M fun game here A and M favored 843 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: by five. The lines come down a little bit. It 844 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: is time to talk about the great eight and fortification 845 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 2: of Texas A and M eight. Okay, eight and fornication. 846 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: Okay, if you're listening with children right now, Tie is 847 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: about to get way more graphic than he ever has. 848 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, if Jimbo goes eight and four with this roster, 849 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 2: it's going to be like the scene and Ghostbusters where 850 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: the grid breaks down and all hell breaks loose. Eight 851 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: and four with this roster, with all of the off 852 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 2: season expectations. Mm hmm, what is going to happen to 853 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher in College station? Would they consider getting rid 854 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 2: of them? 855 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: Depends where the oil price is? Are the pass for you? 856 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: Depends where the oil prices are? I guess that's the 857 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: old joke, the old goof man eight and four? Is 858 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: it because you think they're paying him an eight in fortune? No? Yes, 859 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: not bad. It's not bad. Eight and Fortland is that 860 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: where they're living. 861 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 2: I said fornication wrong when I said eight and for 862 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 2: in a pepation or something. 863 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, just lean into it. 864 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 2: The world's going to be on Miami here after last week, 865 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,720 Speaker 2: the lines already come down. I am not convinced Miami 866 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: can run it against Texas A and M. And you 867 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: know the essence of crystal ball better than I do. 868 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 2: But you know he wants to play gorilla ball. He 869 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 2: wants to beat your brains, and he wants to use 870 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: his offensive line to. 871 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: Great a vail. Yeah. 872 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: One of the reasons that I was excited about Maria 873 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: christ Ball coming down to Miami is because I believe 874 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 2: he can instill that type of mentality, and I believe 875 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 2: they've got at least enough on the roster to mostly 876 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 2: run that system against their schedule. But I don't know 877 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 2: if A and M is a team that I would 878 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 2: group in there. They're still pretty good up front, and 879 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: so I'm a little bit worried here. I'm a little 880 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: bit worried that what I think Miami wants to do, 881 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 2: they won't be able to. Okay, that's a problem. The 882 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: other counterpoint, obviously, is a AM stinks on offense right now. 883 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: They stick on offense. 884 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: You know, a lot a lot's been made of app 885 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: State winning that game, and rightfully so, great win for 886 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: app State on the road, seventeen to fourteen. What reason 887 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: do we have to believe that the A and M 888 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 2: offense is suddenly going to come alive here after what 889 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 2: we saw last week? Keep in mind, this is an 890 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 2: app State defense that, while vaunted and held down A 891 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: and M, gave up sixty three points to North Carolina 892 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 2: a week prior. Correct, So we're not talking about the 893 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: eighty five bears out there. We're talking about a team 894 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: that gave up a ton of points to an offense 895 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 2: that shouldn't be as good as Texas A and M, 896 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: but it is. So I don't know what to believe here. 897 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: This is a big dumb conservative football game that I 898 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 2: think somebody wins twenty six to twenty five, or a 899 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 2: weird score agami that nobody's familiar with, no one's seen before. 900 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm taking points. I'm not gonna overthink it. I'm taking 901 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 2: the points. My central belief here, more so than anything else, 902 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 2: is that the Jimbo offense is gonna be weird and 903 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 2: conservative and is not that good under Haynes King, despite 904 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: the fact that it should be better Miami plus five. 905 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm taking A and M and I'm gonna tell you why. 906 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with my and the theory didn't work 907 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: out for Iowa and my pig against Iowa State. But 908 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: I think that was Texas A and M's worst day 909 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: relative to opponent, relative to situation, relative to them hosting 910 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: that game, relative to having the health that they had 911 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. I think that was 912 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: their worst day. I think that was their early wake 913 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: up call because they're not in an Iowa situation where 914 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: even though philosophically I think A and M is behind 915 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: the times, they are not where Iowa is, just in 916 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: terms of quarterback, just in terms of coaching philosophy, just 917 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: in terms of receiver health. There's a lot more going 918 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: for A and M on offense put in maybe someday 919 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: last week. But if you had to bet on one 920 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: of these teams getting their act together and ascending to decent, 921 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 1: it's probably A and M over Iowa. Yes, yeah, Okay, 922 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: So we know what Mario Cristaball wants to do with Miami. 923 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: He has a pretty good, if not good quarterback who 924 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 1: was a little bit off last week against Southern Miss. 925 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: They're beat up at running back if I have looked 926 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: at reports correctly, but they have a couple of good ones. 927 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 1: I think it's Henry Parrish, who had another good game 928 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: against Southern Miss. Went over one hundred yards. Yeah, Tyler 929 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: Van Dyke was a little bit off, especially early, and 930 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: they were just off as a team early against Southern Miss. 931 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm going A and M here. I'm going A and 932 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: M because I think it will be relatively close for 933 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: a large chunk of this game. And I don't trust 934 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: a first year coach in Mario Cristobal with not his 935 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: guys and philosophically what he's going to try to do 936 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,280 Speaker 1: in this game. I think Dj Dirkin can out scheme 937 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: him and figure out what Miami is trying to do, 938 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: and as good as is and can be at his best, 939 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 1: I think there's enough at A and M to really 940 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 1: limit him in this spot. Okay, So I disagree, We disagree, 941 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: So we disagree. I'm going A and M. I think 942 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 1: there is a certain amount of within the locker room. 943 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: A and M has been the laughing stock of the 944 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: past few days and it can bury a season, or 945 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: it can help a program dig in its heels and 946 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: say it's US versus the world, right, that there is 947 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: something about nobody believes in us. Silence the doubters, blah 948 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: baty blah, they think we're a joke, and then they 949 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: drop thirty eight on Miami or something like that. A 950 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: very much work in progress Miami with really interesting, good 951 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: players on both sides of the ball. I would be 952 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more excited if there were a real 953 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 1: dangerous receiver that has jumped out for Miami to sort 954 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: of change the gravity of this offense. You know, it's 955 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: that Xavier Ristrepo has been that guy sort of. But no, 956 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: that's what worries me a little bit about Miami in 957 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: this specific spot. I think they're going to be in 958 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: a good place overall under Mario Cristobal, but now this 959 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: is what game three something like that. Yeah, I think 960 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: it's smarter to go I in m here. Yeah, I 961 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: get that logic, and I wavered on this one. I 962 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: just think this could end up being a really conservative, 963 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: dumb football game. 964 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 2: Sure played close to the line of scrimmage on both sides, and. 965 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: I'll take points. 966 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 2: I'll take points that feels like it's been a theme 967 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 2: through the first two weeks. Just take the points. Don't 968 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 2: even think about take the points. By the way you 969 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 2: brought up Iowa, and I did want to call this 970 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 2: out because Travis May on our website writes sneaky stats 971 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 2: that go live every Wednesday morning speaking of the Iowa offense, 972 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 2: because we probably won't talk about the Iowa Nevada game 973 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 2: unless you have a burning desire to do so. Quote, 974 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 2: Iowa has successfully built the least efficient offense of the 975 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: century dan mm two two point eight yards per play. 976 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 2: It is a full half yard point five six yards 977 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 2: excuse me per play, worse than any FBS team this millennium, 978 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 2: this millennium. 979 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 1: Are you about to talk Iowa Nevada. 980 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm not talking Iowa Nevada. Oh okay, only this year's 981 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 2: UMass squad comes anywhere near being as inefficient and awful 982 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 2: as the Hawkeye offense. Going out to seliverbl dot com 983 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 2: reed Travis's piece, Yeah, always instructive. Iowa's offense, in case 984 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 2: you were wondering, is very bad, very bad. 985 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: Favored by three touchdowns, they haven't scored anything more than 986 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: one touchdown the whole season, right, correct, But look at 987 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: that correctly. 988 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 2: Okay, unless you count the gentleman's touchdown. 989 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: The gentleman's touchdown, let's move on. 990 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, twelve o'clock Eastern time, ESPN Georgia minus twenty four 991 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 2: on the road at South Carolina. B lock of the Week, 992 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, give me a quick update, if you could, 993 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: on the status of South Carolina's offensive line. Has it 994 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: gotten appreciably better in the first couple weeks of the season. 995 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: Yes, no, no. I couldn't tell you how to spell 996 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: dilapidated off the top of my head, but that's how 997 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: I might characterize it. 998 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 2: They cannot set this line high enough. Dog, give me 999 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 2: Georgia minus whatever on the road in Columbia, South Carolina, 1000 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 2: because that front is gonna eat and they're gonna eat. 1001 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: Well, do you worry that this is the exact spot 1002 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: historically where South Carolina? No, this is the exact spot. No. 1003 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 2: Never, Georgia has. 1004 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: Everything going for it, and here come the low liol 1005 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: game cocks. No, okay, I have Georgia minus. I think 1006 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 1: as well. I'm just I'm cognizant. At least I'm aware 1007 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 1: of the dust in the ether, the cock dust. It's Settle, Settle, 1008 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm just in South Carolina, Settle, all right, all right, 1009 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm mindful. Like I talked about at the 1010 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: top of. 1011 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 2: The show, Swell PM Eastern, ESPN two low key the 1012 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 2: best game of the friggin day. Purdue on the road 1013 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 2: at Syracuse. Syracuse a one point favorite. This line is 1014 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 2: bobbled around back and forth here. The numbers interesting, to 1015 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 2: say the least. It is about what I expected. I 1016 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 2: just want to pick Syracuse. I want to pick Syracuse here. 1017 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't care if I'm wrong. We've been saying it 1018 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 2: for years. But the JMA Wireless Dome, I can't get 1019 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 2: through it. That's where teams go to die. 1020 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 1021 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 2: Give me Cus minus whatever. 1022 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: Do either one of these old I guess specifically Syracuse. 1023 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: It's their favor by a point. It looks like at 1024 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,240 Speaker 1: the moment, yeah, yeah, Syracuse has Virginia next week. Okay, 1025 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: so they're not panicking about an upcoming giant. I think 1026 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm on Cus. But their centaur potential here, yeah that 1027 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: they're looking strong, meaty flanks of a thoroughbred. Early on, 1028 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 1: defense has been very, very good under Tony White, running 1029 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: the hell out of the ball, I haven't played teams. 1030 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, Louisville, I haven't played teams. I'm riding 1031 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: with the q's. 1032 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 2: Thank you to thirty NBC slash Peacock. I don't know 1033 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 2: what that means. I don't like that cal at Notre Dame, 1034 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,919 Speaker 2: Notre Dame favored by eleven mm hmm. 1035 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: How do you feel about this game? 1036 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 2: I like cal Oh, baby, give me, give me the 1037 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 2: Golden Bears plus the points. 1038 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: Baby. I could do a full show on this. 1039 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 2: Actually I did kind of do a full show on this, 1040 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 2: because earlier this morning, Pete Sampson Matt Fortuna were kind 1041 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: enough to invite me on the Shamrock their podcast, Notre 1042 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 2: Dame podcast over on the Athletic, which is more of 1043 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,439 Speaker 2: a therapy session than anything else. But yeah, we talked 1044 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 2: through some things here about this game and Tyler bucking 1045 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 2: her out for the year Drew Pin's offense, which means 1046 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,720 Speaker 2: you and I have already started work shopping the punts 1047 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: for Steve Angeli the backup, have we not? 1048 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't even remember what was my line. 1049 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 2: You said, I don't think you're ready for Angelly. 1050 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't I think you're ready for ANGELI yeah, 1051 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: my Booty Delicious reference. As I always try to squeeze 1052 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: Booty Delicious into anything I can. I'm going I'm going Cal, 1053 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: just because I don't know that I would go Notre 1054 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: Dame with Tyler Buckner. I don't know, like as you 1055 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: were watching the Marshall game. Now, was he hurt going 1056 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: into the Marshall game and then he just tried to 1057 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: play through pain. I don't know. I didn't know he 1058 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: took a shot. He took a shot in the Marshall game, 1059 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: specifically because he did take some shots in the Ohio 1060 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: State game as well. Correct, But as you were watching 1061 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: that game, as you were watching that offense, if I 1062 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: were to begin a conversation with you, like, they're playing 1063 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: a Cal team who's probably not that good next week, 1064 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: but what they do specialize in is confusing quarterbacks and 1065 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,720 Speaker 1: making them think an extra tick before throwing the ball. 1066 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: Do you like Notre Dame against that justin Wilcox Cal team, 1067 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: you probably in that moment, Tyler Buckner at full health 1068 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: would have said, I don't know if I like Notre Dame. 1069 00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if I like Notre Dame in this 1070 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: offensive line in that spot, and I don't know. So 1071 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: with a better quarterback situation or a more experienced Tyler 1072 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: Buckner like whatever version he is next year or the 1073 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: year after, I think Notre Dame is a relatively easy pick. 1074 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: But no, the only saving grace would be it would 1075 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: be extremely college football for in his first start against 1076 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: a real team. I believe this is Drew Pines's first 1077 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: start against like a real team. He looks awesome and 1078 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: they win by two touchdowns, and then he is awful 1079 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: a year long after that. I could see some potential 1080 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: for that. Cal does things really well on defense. That's 1081 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 1: been them for justin Wilcox. They play good defense, and 1082 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: so I think, and is what I said to Pete Matt, 1083 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 1: I think on that level, given that Notre Dame has 1084 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: had so much trouble with its offensive line, this is 1085 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 1: another good test for that unit up front to get 1086 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: its act together. Because Cal pretty much has defense figured out. 1087 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: They're good at that, and so I think this is 1088 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity for them to go up against quality defense 1089 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: of app it get their act together. It will definitely 1090 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: show us a lot about what we have here with 1091 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: Drew Pine. So I'm looking forward to that matchup. Even 1092 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: though I think it could be one that gives Notre 1093 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: Dame some trouble. Cal doesn't play offense. 1094 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 2: They don't play offense, so like one hundred and twenty 1095 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 2: fourth nationally in offense, they still have not figured out 1096 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 2: that side of the football. And so this is also 1097 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 2: a matchup that I think will be good for Notre 1098 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 2: Dame's defense, if only because the defense has been relied 1099 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 2: upon so heavily through the first two games to make 1100 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,399 Speaker 2: plays to get stops. This should hopefully be a chance 1101 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 2: for them to catch their breath because I don't think 1102 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 2: Cal's that good at offense. 1103 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: Jade not, by the way, pretty good running back, low key, 1104 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: very good running back in the Pac twelve for Cal. 1105 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 2: I think there is no universe in which I am 1106 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 2: not taking Cal plus the points here. Okay, just too 1107 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 2: many unknowns for Notre Dame. And it could be one 1108 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 2: of those deals as you described, where Drew Pine comes 1109 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 2: out throws for three to fifty. Looks awesome, Suddenly new 1110 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,720 Speaker 2: receivers are getting involved, everybody's very excited. 1111 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: And then yeah, I mean that could be a tale 1112 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: of two halves as well. Looks great for the first 1113 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,720 Speaker 1: half of them. Could see on the table. 1114 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 2: We agree Old Miss minus sixteen and one half points 1115 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 2: on the road at Georgia Tech three thirty ABC. Luke 1116 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 2: Altmeyer got the start last week in the low key 1117 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 2: Old Bis quarterback battle, but he left the game looked 1118 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 2: like a shoulder injury. I did not see an update, 1119 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 2: but YadA, YadA, YadA. Jackson Dark came in look pretty good. 1120 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it is his job to lose at this point. 1121 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 2: I like Old Miss a lot here, don't. I don't 1122 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 2: really see the appeal and going Georgia Tech other than 1123 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 2: the fact that the game is in Atlanta. 1124 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: You're talking about the Old Miss game against Central Arkansas. 1125 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 2: When Jackson Dark came in in relief for Luke Altmeyer, 1126 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 2: he looked pretty good. 1127 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, he looked very good. I'm just saying it's 1128 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: a centaur team right now at this point, where like, yeah, 1129 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: the score is indicate you know they were. He was 1130 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: not sharp against I think they had Troy their first game. 1131 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: He was not especially sharp. I want to take Georgia Tech. 1132 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: I want to like you, Georgia Tech. But the reason 1133 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: for taking Georgia Tech is they kind of hung around 1134 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: with Clemson in week one. But I still don't necessarily 1135 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: feel all that good about anything on offense with Georgia Tech. 1136 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: And at the same time, we're just sort of penciling 1137 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: in Ole Miss as similar to what they were last year, 1138 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: and I don't think they are. I think they're I mean, 1139 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: I think Zach Evans is good, and I think Georgia 1140 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: Tech will key in on Zach Evans and make Jackson 1141 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: Dart in the passing game be the feature in this game. 1142 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: But I couldn't find that reason for Georgia Tech. I 1143 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: just I couldn't find that appreciable reason. So I'm going 1144 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: to Old Miss here to win big because I couldn't 1145 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: find it that it might exist. They might win this 1146 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: game out right, it's at home. They might win this 1147 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 1: game by a touchdown. It might lose this game by 1148 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown. But I couldn't put my finger on the 1149 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: specific reason to take Georgia Tech, so I'm underthinking it. 1150 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 2: I think Old Miss could end up being better this 1151 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 2: year than they were last year. 1152 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: Damn they were really good last year. I am. 1153 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 2: I am very high on Old Biss, and I'm trying 1154 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 2: to contain myself. 1155 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: Even though they might not like you. I think Jackson 1156 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: Dart is like, oh guy, I don't you think, so, 1157 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I'm it's a leading question. I 1158 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: understand that. 1159 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 2: I don't know yet, but I think this team has 1160 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 2: a lot of potential. I am very excited to see 1161 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 2: what happens in this football game because I have questions. Honestly, 1162 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 2: why the linees sound a little bit higher. I could 1163 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 2: see them winning by a lot more than sixteen and 1164 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 2: a half points. 1165 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: Totally. 1166 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 2: We will find out a lot more about ole Miss 1167 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 2: by December. Certainly, by December, as always. By December, as. 1168 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: Always, we're gonna know a lot more about this LSU 1169 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: squad by December. 1170 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but as we get into October, the schedule starts 1171 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: to pick up steam. In October Kentucky in October on 1172 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 2: the road at LSU, there's an A and M game, 1173 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 2: and there's a BAMA game and an Arkansas game in 1174 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 2: Mississippi State game all back to back to back. 1175 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,919 Speaker 1: A lot on your best take ever, your best take? 1176 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: What going on? Yeah, so we'll see. 1177 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm on ole Miss here, three point thirty ESPN plus 1178 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Troy at app State. They're putting the game day game 1179 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 2: on ESPN Plus. 1180 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: That's weak sauce, Weak sauce. Let America celebrate Cameron, People's. 1181 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 2: Favored by twelve and a half points. So you got 1182 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 2: the whirlwind of almost beating UNC, going on the road 1183 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 2: to knock off A and M. Now app State comes 1184 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 2: back home, they're greeted by college freakin game Day and 1185 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 2: rewarded by the game on ESPN plus. How about that 1186 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 2: and the Troy Trojans And the Troy Trojans. I happened 1187 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 2: to like Troy a lot this year. They were an 1188 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 2: aggressive half team last season, probably headed there again this 1189 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 2: year for being honest. But it's a very good defense, 1190 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 2: and I think that makes them dangerous enough in a 1191 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 2: potential letdown spot here for app State. And they actually 1192 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 2: did do a pretty good job containing Ole Miss in 1193 01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 2: Week one, for whatever that's worth. So I don't think 1194 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 2: Troy wins, But twelve and a half is the number. 1195 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 2: That's a lot of points in a potential that down spot. 1196 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: I'm on Troy here plus the number plus twelve and 1197 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 2: a half against app State. 1198 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Okay. I was in that line of thinking as well 1199 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: last year in Troy forty five to seven APP State, 1200 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: the year before that in boone forty seven to ten 1201 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: APP State, the year before that in Troy app State 1202 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: forty eight Troy thirteen. So they've scored one hundred and 1203 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: forty points or something these last three years. I don't know, ty, 1204 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 1: recent history does not predict current present results accurately necessarily, 1205 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: But but I really like Sean Clark. I really like 1206 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: this app State team, So I'm picking with my heart 1207 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: and I like app State big. I think there's just 1208 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna be too much juice in boone, So yeah, give 1209 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: me the Mountaineers. 1210 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 2: Big four o'clock ESPNU Kansas at Houston. Did you ever 1211 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 2: think we'd mentioned this game. 1212 01:01:59,080 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: At Week three? 1213 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 2: If I had told you, Dan, we're going to talk 1214 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 2: about Kansas Houston for a hot minute on our Week 1215 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 2: three preview episode, you would have called me crazy. 1216 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: You just said you would have. Though I felt the 1217 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: energy that felt the Lawrence energy in August when we 1218 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 1: were doing our Big twelve preview and the way that 1219 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: they finished their year last year. I didn't see them 1220 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: necessarily coming out right away and beating West Virginia on 1221 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 1: the road in the way that they did, scoring I 1222 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: think fifty five with the walk off pick six. But no, 1223 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: I would not have expected it to be in this 1224 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: part of our preview. 1225 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,959 Speaker 2: I am going Kansas here. I am going Kansas because 1226 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 2: I want to, and apparently a lot of people do 1227 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 2: as well. Because I saw this line earlier in the 1228 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 2: week at ten ten and a half. It's down to 1229 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 2: eight and a half points. The line has moved significantly. 1230 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 2: It has been a rough two weeks for Houston, a 1231 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 2: really rough two weeks for Houston, which otherwise is I 1232 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 2: think a very good football team. I believe Kansas can 1233 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 2: score points. I believe they can score points. I don't 1234 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 2: know what else they can do. There may not be 1235 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 2: a whole lot else, but this is a plucky Kansas team. 1236 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 2: They are frisky. Not go win a lot of games 1237 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 2: with their frisky. Yeah, I like Jalen Daniels a lot. 1238 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 2: I'm going points Kansas plus eight and a half. 1239 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: I have Houston minus eight and a half. I think 1240 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Houston's a better team. I think we're probably over inflating Kansas. 1241 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Just as Mitch, Yes we are, we are. 1242 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: And so this might be an ample opportunity to like, oh, 1243 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Kansas lost thirty eight thirteen. This might be that moment. 1244 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 1: And I always appreciate when you reference the sharps in Vegas, 1245 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: because one a decision to bet on college football full time, 1246 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: not a good decision, not a good decision. And two 1247 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: when you actually like drill down and speak to the 1248 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: people who bet on sports and college football specifically full time, 1249 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 1: like how much money do you sort of average out 1250 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: betting on this full time? Like, well, I make about 1251 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: forty four thousand a year. 1252 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 2: Like what the sharps, by the way are on Houston, 1253 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 2: they're with you? 1254 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 1: Okay, good, But I just I don't put a ton 1255 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: of weight on that unless we're talking about crazy successful 1256 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: ones who have hookups within programs everywhere, which you know 1257 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: the successful ones do to find out about injury stuff. 1258 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 1: But I still am I'm always wary of saying, well, 1259 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 1: it's what everybody's hammering, that doesn't matter. 1260 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 2: Seven thirty ESPNU Ties, Third block of the week. Block 1261 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 2: of the week, give me them Pitt Panthers Dan on 1262 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 2: the road at Western Michigan. We've got a revenge game. 1263 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 2: Pit favored by ten and a half. Western I think 1264 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 2: is kind of bad. 1265 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: I like Pitt. I still like Pitt. Yeah, who's their 1266 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: third string quarterback? Tie? I like Lock of the week. 1267 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Is Pitt's third string quarterback? You better tell me his 1268 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: name because he might be starting. 1269 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 2: Pitt minus ten and a half give me it. Okay, 1270 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm dead lock Inlchigan. 1271 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm taking Wes, absolutely taking Western Michigan in a road Kalamazoo. 1272 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: Letdown spot for pitt who might be down, Nick Patty 1273 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: and Ketan Slovas. I've seen the latest news. We're recording 1274 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: this on Wednesday midday, but it feels like a bit 1275 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 1: of a letdown injured spot in Kalamazoo. I don't think 1276 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 1: Western Michigan's all that good. I saw after the game 1277 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,479 Speaker 1: the key Slovis was okay, I saw that shirt. 1278 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 2: No, I'm not sure. 1279 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:16,439 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 1280 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and look that up right now. 1281 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: There were moments where the pit offensive line said, what 1282 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 1: if we give this Tennessee edge guy free run at 1283 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: our quarterback? Multiple times? I don't know. I think it's 1284 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: a lot h what'd you say? It was ten eighteen, 1285 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: ten and a half? What so was it eleven and 1286 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: a half? It was at eleven and a half, So 1287 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: people are are. 1288 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 2: It was high, it was higher, and now it's come down. 1289 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 2: So you're a bandwagon jumper. It's fine, it's fine to 1290 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 2: be there. I'm not I didn't know it came down 1291 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 2: to you're listed spread here at eleven and a half. 1292 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: I have an updated sheet that I go off of. 1293 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I did an update. Thank you, thank you so much 1294 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: for your consideration. 1295 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 2: It's the only chance I have to catch you off guard. 1296 01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 2: So that's what I stick to. 1297 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: Okay, we disagree, yet again disagree. UTSA at Texas. 1298 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 2: Eight pm, Longhorn Network, Texas favored by twelve and a half. 1299 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Dan Or Yet I'm going road runners me. Really, who's 1300 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 1: starting at quarterback for Texas? Somebody who probably hasn't thrown 1301 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: any college footballs. I haven't seen Hudson card status. 1302 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 2: I know he was day to day, Yeah, so he 1303 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 2: would be the preference. 1304 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 1: But otherwise it's going to be Chazz Right, an enormous 1305 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 1: lookdown spot, let down spot, excuse me, Yes, and it 1306 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: could be Hudson Card, a beat up Hudson Card or 1307 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: a big old question mark in Chaz right. UTSA pretty 1308 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 1: good UTSA defense not pretty good. They give up army. 1309 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: That's it's getting the way of my point here. Okay, 1310 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: never mind, I'm going UTSA. I'm going UTSA here because 1311 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: I just situationally it's a letdown spot for Texas, beat 1312 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: up at quarterback and and maybe believe in sort of 1313 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 1: the lost win. Hype like it was a loss, but 1314 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 1: it was kind of a win. We hung with Alabama 1315 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: without our starting quarterback. I'm in on utsa to lose 1316 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 1: this game by a touchdown. 1317 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 2: What's the over under on snaps that Rashaan Johnson gets 1318 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 2: a quarterback four and a half? Were sitting in at 1319 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 2: four and a half. That's a good line, actually, I 1320 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 2: was gonna say about five. Yeah, all right, I'm going Texas. 1321 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to Texas. Okay, two more games here 1322 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 2: very quickly. Ten thirty Fox Fresno State at USC USC 1323 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 2: favored by twelve and a half points. A lot of 1324 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 2: shootout potential here, Isn't there sure? A lot of shootout potential. 1325 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 2: I think Fresno's better than Stanford. I'm inclined to go 1326 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 2: Fresno here. Plus the points. I think I'm just going 1327 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 2: to keep betting the teams that can score against USC 1328 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 2: because eventually, eventually this comes into a shootout territory with 1329 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 2: them and they win, but by like ten and team 1330 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 2: getting points covers, I'm going Forresno. 1331 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm going Fresno well because I think USC has serious 1332 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: just in terms of the line, I think they have 1333 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 1: center potential. I think they have centur potential. So I'm 1334 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: going with USC to win this game, but Fresno to 1335 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 1: make it very spicy for much of this. 1336 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 2: Game last but certainly not least Friday seven thirty ESPN, 1337 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,560 Speaker 2: we travel back in time, but better do? Better do. 1338 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 2: Florida State minus two and a half against Louisville. I 1339 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,679 Speaker 2: am all in on the Knowles this year. 1340 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: Yep. Same, I mean, not as much as you are, 1341 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 1: but I'm all in on the knowles this week. 1342 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 2: Florida State minus two and a half. 1343 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,520 Speaker 1: For me, yep. Agree. I think they are more trustworthy 1344 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and that they sold 1345 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 1: out to stop the run last week, and you can't 1346 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: sell out to stop anything with the best of what 1347 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Florida State's offense can offer, even though still I think 1348 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 1: a work in progress, but I just trust Florida State 1349 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: more week to week. 1350 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 2: There you have it, Dan, I'm looking over my picks 1351 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 2: right now. It appears I've taken fourteen road team, which 1352 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 2: is never a great recipe for success. 1353 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. I hope everybody's sleep bank in terms of those 1354 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,639 Speaker 1: teams that you picked, got a bank that sleep bank 1355 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 1: at bank at Bankton. Some games that you missed out 1356 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: on by the way that I think are just worth 1357 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 1: paying attention to and obviously watching. If they involve your 1358 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,520 Speaker 1: team to lane at Kansas State, tou lane Michael Pratt 1359 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: scoring a lot of points. Kansas State trusting Asrian Martinez 1360 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 1: to lead a team scoring a lot of I don't 1361 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 1: know in Kansas State though, wearing some dope throwback helmets. 1362 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. If you saw their old wildcat look 1363 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,799 Speaker 1: a number, it looks good. Iowa minus twenty three against Nevada. Nevada, 1364 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: of course, just gave up fifty five in a losing 1365 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 1: effort to incarnate word, so I can understand that Nevada 1366 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 1: is secretly on that Iowa plane of existence. I am going, 1367 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not picking this game, but it's it. Iowa, 1368 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: weirdly is generating more interest in their team this year 1369 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 1: by playing the way that they're playing on offense than 1370 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I think if they were fully healthy and merely underwhelming 1371 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: the degree to which they're bad on offense. There's more 1372 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: Iowa football conversation, not necessarily in a positive way, but 1373 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 1: in terms of attention. Great job, Brian Farrens. 1374 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 2: It's so bad. It is so bad. We've joked for 1375 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 2: eons on this show about half teams m H. Iowa 1376 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 2: has unbridled half team potential this year. Yeah, to an 1377 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 2: extent that we have never seen before. Quite literally, maybe 1378 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,839 Speaker 2: the worst offense in college football versus the best defense 1379 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 2: in college football. We could hit both extremes here with 1380 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 2: this team. I don't think we will, but it's on 1381 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 2: the table. It's on the table totally. What I enjoy 1382 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 2: about this year is Iowa situation. Is they win the 1383 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 2: way that they win with the gentleman's touchdown Againstuth Dakota State. 1384 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 1: They lose the way that they lose in the Saihawk 1385 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Game after winning it for six straight years. But a 1386 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 1: rational mind unaffiliated with Iowa football or any of their 1387 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: rivals could also say, I don't know if they're not 1388 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 1: winning the Big Ten West, right, Like, we have seen 1389 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,839 Speaker 1: disaster from Iowa football in terms of what they're attempting 1390 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: to do on offense. And at the same time, you 1391 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: can visualize a Big Ten West champion Iowa, right, but 1392 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 1: you can see that path where they win a bunch 1393 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: of games thirteen to ten and you're like, wow, that 1394 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,639 Speaker 1: offense is truly one of the most horrendous things that's 1395 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 1: ever been fielded on a college football field, but the 1396 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 1: defense was enough to win a bunch of games, which 1397 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,599 Speaker 1: is just an incredible statement on parts of the Big Ten. Okay, also, 1398 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 1: SMU Maryland centaur potential. I am just I'm seeing a 1399 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 1: lot of to Leah hype, SMU year one, new coach, 1400 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: good players on offense. I'm just pointing out that's an 1401 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:48,919 Speaker 1: interesting matchup. 1402 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,560 Speaker 2: I still don't really get the centaur thing, but continue. 1403 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Well, the centaur thing is, on first glance, your eyes 1404 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 1: are attracted to the meaty flanks of the horse bottom right, 1405 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 1: it's half man, half horse, and so you're seeing a thoroughbred, right, 1406 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 1: But then you look at the torso and it's much 1407 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 1: more human, and so it's sort of upon first glance 1408 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 1: you're seeing the strength and the meatiness. 1409 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,720 Speaker 2: There's no way a centaur makes that sound, but it's 1410 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,679 Speaker 2: really haunting. 1411 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what sound a centaur. Man. 1412 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 2: No, I mean, that's as good a guess as any 1413 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 2: I don't know either, But continue, continue, don't let me 1414 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 2: get in your way here. 1415 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 1: San Diego State Utah Utah favored by three touchdowns at altitude. 1416 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't think San Diego State is especially good, but 1417 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,719 Speaker 1: it is a revenge spot. So that's at least interesting 1418 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 1: because I was a Charlie Brewer loss last year. North 1419 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Dakota State favored by a point in the desert at Arizona. 1420 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: North Dakota State at Arizona. I think that's the game. 1421 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,400 Speaker 1: I think Arizona's gonna win that game, do you yeah? 1422 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 1: I do'd be nice, Do me a quick, quick, quick 1423 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: uick quick quick favor and drop some wriggling, ravishing relishing 1424 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 1: drum at five. 1425 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,640 Speaker 2: We're bringing it back this week, Dan, we got a 1426 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 2: lot of pushback to the STS lighting ground. Yeah, Patriot 1427 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 2: League Lightning Round is back. Twelve pm Eastern Time, Saturday, 1428 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 2: Richmond the Spiders on the road at the Lehigh Mountain Hawks. 1429 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 1: Who you got. I'm taking Richmond. I'm taking Spider. Give 1430 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 1: me the Spiders. 1431 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 2: One pm. Bucknell at Central Michigan CMU. I think buck 1432 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 2: Nell is gone a get killed? 1433 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,759 Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably Yeah, Central Michigan there. Yeah. One pm. 1434 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 2: Colgate on the road at Penn Gators squaring off against 1435 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:29,839 Speaker 2: the Quakers. 1436 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 1: Who you got, I'm gonna take Colgate here. I love 1437 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 1: the city of Philadelphia, I love all things food in Philadelphia, 1438 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 1: but man, you catch the Gators on the wrong day. 1439 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 2: We'll give me Coldgate. Let's go Colgate. Georgetown away from 1440 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,719 Speaker 2: multi sport field squaring off against Monmouth. 1441 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: One pm. Monmouth. Yeah, give me the Mouth. He's of 1442 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 1: Monmouth here. It's a tough place to play. And yeah, 1443 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Georgetown away from home, it's just not the Georgetown I 1444 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:53,760 Speaker 1: know in love. 1445 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 2: I believe in big George this year. Give me Georgetown 1446 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,879 Speaker 2: all right, away from home, away from that decided schematic 1447 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 2: advantage of multi sport. Moving on, one pm Albany, The 1448 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 2: Great Danes on the Road at Fordham, New York's one 1449 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,160 Speaker 2: true team. 1450 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: Jared Vers not walking through that door. Give me Fordam 1451 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 1: here by the way, Fordham and the Bronx, Well, just 1452 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: the Bronx, featured heavily in Chef's Table, Pizza, Mike's Deli 1453 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,800 Speaker 1: and market in the Bronx on Arthur Avenue, the fresh mozzarella, 1454 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: nothing like it to die for. 1455 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Two pm. Yale on the Road at holy Cross, Holy 1456 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,120 Speaker 2: Cross one and a Hail Mary last week desperation, Hail 1457 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Mary over Buffalo. 1458 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm calling a second Hail Mary, to be dubbed the 1459 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,640 Speaker 1: Yale Mary, the Yale Mary. For the good of my 1460 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: pun I think Holy Cross win's this one late on 1461 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,799 Speaker 1: a big heave once again. 1462 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,680 Speaker 2: I think let down potential here for the Crossaders. Give 1463 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 2: me Yale got all right, Yale and last, but certainly 1464 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 2: not least as we bring the music down. Bill and 1465 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,640 Speaker 2: Mary three thirty pm, Easter Time on the road at Lafayette, 1466 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Dan going, LEPs going, Bill and Mary? 1467 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,200 Speaker 1: What are you going? Oh my god, of course I'm 1468 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: going to America's team. The Leopards kept it within two 1469 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 1: scores against Temple last week. Temple's really bad, the very 1470 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 1: Temple is so bad to fourteen Temple Lafayette, America's team 1471 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 1: getting it done here. What are you say? It's Bill 1472 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: and Mary? Yeah, Bill and Mary, Yeah. The dynamic duo 1473 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,719 Speaker 1: does not stand a chance. 1474 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm going, Bill and Mary, Yeah. Loser two versus one? 1475 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Why not? 1476 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 2: Quick reminder to everyone out there, don't know what your 1477 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 2: watch situation is going to be this year, this week, 1478 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 2: but if you're on the road, if you're on the go, 1479 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 2: if you still want to keep tabs with what's going 1480 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 2: on in all things college football, tune into our good 1481 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 2: friends over at the College Football Blitz hosted by our 1482 01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 2: friends Stevie Speed Run, Dan Me, meet Steven Hartzel. It's 1483 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 2: the NFL Red Zone of college football. Twelve hours of 1484 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 2: twelve hours excuse me, of college football coverage every Saturday 1485 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,600 Speaker 2: from noon eastern to midnight, available for free in the 1486 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 2: Varsity Network app, also on ESPN, you rad channel eighty 1487 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,760 Speaker 2: four on Serious x M limited commercial interruptions. You get 1488 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:09,559 Speaker 2: three minutes of commercials per no, excuse me, you get 1489 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 2: fifty six minutes of play by play. Ah that's the way, 1490 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 2: versus just three commercial breaks per hour. I butchered it 1491 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 2: because it seems so off kilter, but it's true. I 1492 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 2: listen to this every week, fifty six minutes play by 1493 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 2: play coverage. You can hear touchdowns as they happen by 1494 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 2: the hometown radio crews courtesy of Learfield. Are good friends 1495 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 2: at Learfield. I'm your college. I listened to this religiously, 1496 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 2: hosted by Steven Hartzel and friends. They do a magnificent job. 1497 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 2: I don't know how they do this. They posted a 1498 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,559 Speaker 2: picture on Twitter last week and I commented on it. 1499 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it. I expected a 1500 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 1: war room. It just looked like a normal room. 1501 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of tech they're wired up for, 1502 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 2: but they do a great job here College Football Blitz. 1503 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,160 Speaker 2: Check it out again Varsity Network app or over on 1504 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,959 Speaker 2: espn U Radio starting at twelve noon on Saturday. 1505 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, the only option to and from that apple orchard, 1506 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,639 Speaker 1: the only option to listen and keep track of college 1507 01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:09,160 Speaker 1: football as it happens with the voices that matter. It's 1508 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:19,200 Speaker 1: all I got Centaurs. All I have CENTI Saturday, Centaur Saturday. 1509 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 2: We are doing a live show in New York City 1510 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. 1511 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: Yes, we are. 1512 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 2: We are preparing to unveil this concept. If you are 1513 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,400 Speaker 2: in the New York area or can get to the 1514 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,640 Speaker 2: New York area. This is one of the more ambitious 1515 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 2: yet dumb things we've ever done. We have done many, 1516 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 2: we have done nothing many for the. 1517 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,120 Speaker 1: Last fifteen years. But dumb ambition. 1518 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is what we specialize in in college football media, 1519 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 2: fringe media, whatever we're considered. I would encourage you just 1520 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 2: trust us on this one. Okay, trust a date. 1521 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,479 Speaker 1: Honestly, I would just absolutely bring a date to trust 1522 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,679 Speaker 1: trust me on this one. 1523 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 2: You will have fun, you will laugh, you may cry. 1524 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. There will be drakes can show off. 1525 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you could show off. Yeah, there is potential 1526 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, this is one of the dumber things 1527 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:10,240 Speaker 2: we've ever done. 1528 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:10,960 Speaker 1: Can't wait. 1529 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 2: It could be a spectacular failure. It could also be 1530 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:15,439 Speaker 2: funny as freaking hell. 1531 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. Yeah, I have nothing to add. You're 1532 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 1: doing great. 1533 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 2: More tocome solidverblive dot com for that guy over there, 1534 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein on this here Centaur Saturday 1535 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,719 Speaker 2: Week three for myself, Tie. 1536 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 1: Hill and the Brandt. 1537 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,640 Speaker 2: We'll be back in very short order to walk you 1538 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 2: through all things college football on our week three recap episode. 1539 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 2: If you're around this evening Thursday evening five pm Eastern, 1540 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 2: two pm Pacific, would you can listen to courtesy of 1541 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,799 Speaker 2: Soliverble dot com so on Spotify. 1542 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you want our Centaur Saturday recap as 1543 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: soon as Ty is done editing the show midday Sunday, 1544 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,799 Speaker 1: Verballers dot com is where it will be available midday 1545 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 1: Sunday because you have things to do on Sunday, and 1546 01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,320 Speaker 1: we'll be right there with you figuring out what all 1547 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,840 Speaker 1: things Centaur meant. The day before the longest outro in 1548 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 1: solid Urble history. Money's tie, He'll no brand stay solid 1549 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 1: Peace