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Speaker 1: Back at it again on this beautiful Thursday afternoon. Tiger

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Speaker 1: Woods just finished playing. He is one under for the

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Speaker 1: tournament still three days ago. A lot of golf left,

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Speaker 1: Lot going on. Some rumors about DK Metcalf the Jets

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Speaker 1: just witnessed out of Tiger Woods is truly remarkable. He

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Speaker 1: which have a lot of substance behind him, that he's

423
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: immature and he's not, as coward would say quarterbackian, right,

424
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: he lacks a little something whatever like the Matt Ryan's

425
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: and the Jimmy Garoppolos and the Philip Rivers just being

426
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: like high level guys have baker lacks. So when you

427
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: bring these quarterbacks who are going on the circuit right

428
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: now of all these teams that need quarterbacks, right, Malik Willis,

429
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: Kenny Pikett, Matt Corral, Desmond Ritter, even Sam Howell at

430
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 1: North Carolina who had kind of an up and down

431
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: seat but is pretty talented. I've seen the tape, Like

432
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: I watched you at the Combine, I watched you at

433
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: the Pro Day. I know you can spin it or

434
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: you can't. I know how big you are, I know

435
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: what your production is like at the end of the day,

436
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff. My evaluation on you as a player

437
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: by this point is completely set. I think you're either

438
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: a good player, I think you have a chance to

439
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: be a good player, or I'm not that interested. But

440
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: what I need to get to know? And I say

441
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: this all the time about quarterbacks. It's one of the

442
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 1: rare positions I would say in life that truly incorporates this.

443
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: But like, how you are as a person is almost

444
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: as important as what your talent right, and in football

445
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: at quarterback, like throwing the ball, reading defenses, running the offense.

446
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: But if you are not a super high level person,

447
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: it is hard to be a good quarterback. We've seen

448
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: it over the last several decades. Most of the best

449
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks had special like characteristics, high level guys, super smart,

450
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: natural leaders. Everyone liked them, like just kind of the

451
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: alpha of the room. And it's pretty rare, like you

452
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: could go, you know, think about like if you went

453
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: to college or even high school, there aren't that many

454
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: of these human beings walking around right just in general,

455
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: let alone guys that can throw the football and play

456
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: at an NFL level. So when you're meeting with these

457
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: guys and sitting him, sitting down with them, you're really

458
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: trying to get a feel for is this guy high

459
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: level enough? Is this guy an NFL qual And listen,

460
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: I think the most fascinating part about the draft, And

461
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this yesterday making a little dinner.

462
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: That's what I think about when I make dinner, is

463
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: like it's so easy now two years later or three

464
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Speaker 1: years later, like how did everyone miss everyone missed on A? J.

465
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: Brown and DK Metcalf and even Deebo Samuel, Like how

466
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: is that possible? How did Davante Adams last to the

467
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: second round? What? How did Lamar Jackson go pick thirty two?

468
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: What are these guys doing? Do these guys get paid

469
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Speaker 1: to do this? And it makes sense like you that

470
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: three or four years later, like how did Lamar Jackson

471
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: go pick thirty two? Like Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Sam

472
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Donald all went way higher than Lamar, right dramatically higher.

473
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: One went three, one went one, the other went in.

474
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Lamar went thirty second. But at the time the information

475
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Speaker 1: you had, it's under like, hell, I didn't like Lamar Jackson,

476
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: Like he's not accurate enough running quarterbacks. They always get injured,

477
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: and then he gets the NFL. He's more accurate than

478
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: he was in college. He actually beside this year is

479
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: a pretty uh smart runner. He does not take these

480
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: He doesn't get molly wapped and destroyed running around like

481
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: guys like Michael Vick and RG three did. He's pretty

482
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: good at the same thing with Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray

483
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: gets in trouble when he gets when he gets they

484
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: get him in his grass behind the line of scrimmage.

485
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: He gets tossed to the ground. But in terms of

486
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: him running around, he's got this great baseball slide he

487
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: can avoid and get out of bounce. He's really good

488
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Speaker 1: at it. Lamar is too. But after time, with all

489
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: these prospects, it's like like Cabon Thibodeau right now is

490
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: one of the more polarizing prospects in this draft because

491
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people go well from a playing standpoint,

492
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: played in the shittiest Power five conference, so he wasn't

493
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: going up against that many NFL guys effort. You know,

494
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: I think his questioned by many. He's not a natural

495
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: bend the edge guy. He does not have what you know,

496
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: they call him tight in the business, like he's tight

497
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: Von Miller, J. J. Watt, Khalil Mack. These guys were loose,

498
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: they could turn the corner like a hula hoop around

499
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Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. People do not believe Cabon can do

500
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: that because he's stiff. He kind of just he has

501
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: to turn his whole body to turn where those guys

502
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: can kind of get load to the ground and bend. Now,

503
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: I do think Cavon has some physical attributes that are

504
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: very desirable, desirable. He's long, when he plays hard, he's powerful,

505
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: he's explosive, um he he can when he's around the quarterback,

506
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: he can get the guy. Jim Washburn is one of

507
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: the best defensive line coaches of all time. Thought that

508
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: sacks did matter. You either get close and miss. And

509
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: some guys historically that don't have a huge sack count

510
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: in college and it's like, well, they got all these

511
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: physical attributes and then they can't figure it out in

512
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: the pros. Well, guys that can figure out how to

513
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: get the quarterback usually can figure out how to get

514
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback at every level they play. It's like rebounding

515
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: that ship translates now like Clowney coming out who Cavon

516
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: compared himself to, you know, doesn't have that many moves.

517
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: One thing. Clowney, who was a much better version of Cavon,

518
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: just dominated physically. That's what he did. He just overpowered

519
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: people and when he tried, he was ever able to

520
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: overpower people in the pros. But you can't do that

521
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: every snap Like that was Khalil max thing. When he

522
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: first came in the league. All he could do was

523
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: bull rush. Well, eventually he figured out an inside counter,

524
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: how to kind of bend the edge, and then he

525
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: became the defensive player of the Year. Now, part of

526
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: what made Khalil mac a great players like super focused,

527
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: super big chip on his show, they're super hard worker.

528
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Like Cabon talks about brands a lot, like I'm sorry,

529
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: the media loves when you talk about brands and getting

530
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: bags off the field. It's like, bro, can we just

531
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: try to play some football your brand, like ultimately, Michael

532
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: Jordan's brand or Tiger Woods brand or Tom Brady they

533
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: have a brand because they dominated on the field. That

534
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: all these guys now want to have a brand before

535
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: they've done shit. You know who I don't hear talking

536
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: about brand is Will Anderson in Alabama. You know, I

537
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: watched Will Anderson do last year. Absolutely beat the living

538
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: piss out of every single guy you played. Never heard

539
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: him say the word brand one time. That turns a

540
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: lot of people off. The media loves it, NFL people don't. Ultimately,

541
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: the media doesn't pick the players the NFL people do.

542
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: And I say it all the time, like balance is

543
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: something that sounds really good on the internet. It's not

544
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: really what people are shooting for. You're just not a

545
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: most balanced person. Aaron Donald, you know what, He's become

546
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: the best player in the league. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady

547
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: like limited balance, Patrick Mahomes all In in football, Josh

548
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: Allen all In on foot ball. Doesn't mean he can't

549
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: have a wife, doesn't mean he can't play golf. Just means, like,

550
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: what's your number one priority? Is it branding or is

551
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: it dominating? Because if it's dominating, the brand will come

552
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: and then your print money. But I think a lot

553
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: of these guys open their mouth because it's the cool

554
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: thing to do on the internet. It's not what people

555
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: want to hear, especially when you're not the most dominant player.

556
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: So I mean these quarterbacks like they better be just

557
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: very on their p's and ques about what they're saying.

558
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: Because if you talk about branding as a quarterback and like,

559
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, now you can talk about it in

560
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: five six years, but when you do it early on,

561
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: you know it's to me, that's what the scouts and

562
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: the executives are all looking for. And these draft meetings

563
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: that are in full swing right you now have you

564
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: unlimited tape, you have their pro day, you have the combine,

565
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: You've met the guy, so you have all you have

566
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: all their testing, you have all the football information you need,

567
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: and most of these guys now either your coordinator, your

568
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: coach have met and I think here becomes uh the division.

569
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes in these draft rooms, the scouts like, if you're

570
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: the South, the Southeastern scout, you've done the sec You've

571
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: evaluated these guys for the last nine months. And really

572
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: if you've been doing it for years, you've been around

573
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: the dudes at Georgia, the dudes at Alabama, the dues,

574
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: A L s U for years. That that's where you

575
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: spend all your time evaluating these guys, so you feel

576
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: you know them personally. You know the coaches personally like

577
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: you just know the player, like the back of your hand,

578
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: and you have a take like you have a belief

579
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: on good, bad, indifferent where the guy should be. Well,

580
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: then the coaches get involved. Well, the coaches don't get

581
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: involved till about the middle of February and they come

582
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: in steaming hot, and they got takes. Well, simply put

583
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: and listen. Not every scouts a great evaluator, but I

584
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: would say less than half of assistant coaches know what

585
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: they're talking about when it comes to evaluation. A lot

586
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: of them know how to scheme or know how to

587
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: coach individual positions. They don't know how to evaluate into

588
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: the dual players. So they get these takes, which often

589
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: or wrong, but depending on the organization, they can have

590
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: a lot of juice inside the building. If they have

591
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: a take, then a lot of people will gravitate towards

592
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: that take. Being at a GM, being at the coach

593
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: who obviously have the most influence. And I think you

594
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: have to be very, very careful because you know, a

595
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: lot of position coaches end up being coordinators, and they

596
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: leave a lot of coordinators end up being head coaches,

597
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: and they leave like a lot of your head coach

598
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: and your GM if they're good, you know, can be

599
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: there a long time. John Schneider, Pete Carroll, Kyle Shanahan,

600
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: John lynch uh Less need Sean McVeigh, for example. Think

601
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: how many coaches Pete's fired over the years and McVeigh

602
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: and Kyle have lost to head jobs through other jobs,

603
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: through promotions. It's part of the deal. So if you're

604
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: listening to this guy pounding the table for a player

605
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: in like the second or third round, and you listen

606
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: even though you're like, you know, we think this guy

607
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: is probably more of a fourth or fifth rounder, but

608
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: that guy influences you and then you overdraft him. What

609
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: if that coach leaves in a year to become a coordinator,

610
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: then who even in the building is promoting this player?

611
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: I want to say promoting I mean really invested in

612
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: the guy because you kind of half asked picked them.

613
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: And the front offices that have a clear vision of

614
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: who's in charge, who they're listening to, who's stacking the

615
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: board is best off during this time because, let's face it,

616
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: the farther and farther or closer and closer we get

617
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: to the draft, the farther and farther we get away

618
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: from them last playing. So the paralysis by analysis, and

619
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna happen in any industry. Sometimes thinking

620
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: too much is a problem. It's it's why you know,

621
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: us in the private sector and academia we're not often

622
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: on the same page because if we off we operated

623
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: like academia America be under we have problems. Now I'm

624
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: not saying academia is always wrong, but they're big on

625
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: the white boards and the theories. Like in this world,

626
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: we just gotta do. You just have to dive in

627
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: and try stuff. Sometimes you fail, sometimes you succeed. But

628
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: if you could draft a month ago or two months ago,

629
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: much closer to the season, you would probably have less misses.

630
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: But instead we get farther and farther away from them

631
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: actually playing football, and more emphasis gets put on their

632
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: pro days, their workouts, what they do in shorts and

633
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: T shirts and not football pads and helmets. And ultimately,

634
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Speaker 1: unlike basketball, where you can have a pickup game and

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Speaker 1: you know you can play real basketball, in football, the

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Speaker 1: only way to play real football is either Saturday in

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Speaker 1: college or Sunday in the NFL. And it happens in

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Speaker 1: college thirteen times a year and in pro seventeen. There

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Speaker 1: is no other pickup games. Even I'm going to fort

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Speaker 1: O t a practice here in a month. It's that's

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Speaker 1: not normal football. They're in shorts and a and like

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Speaker 1: a dry fit shirt. So you've got to be very

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Speaker 1: very careful one of who gets to put the emphasis

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Speaker 1: on the players they want. Ultimately it's the GM or

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Speaker 1: the head coach picking the player. But listen, they're all

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Speaker 1: taking in all this information. That's what any good leader does,

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Speaker 1: and then they use all that information to make the

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Speaker 1: best decision. But the more and more information you get,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like it should be easier, but I'd argue

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Speaker 1: sometimes it makes it more difficult sometimes having whatever the

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Speaker 1: right amount information, there's no perfect amount, but I think

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Speaker 1: you can get information overload and then you can start

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Speaker 1: whipping because you just start overthinking it. Uh So it's

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Speaker 1: fascinating time. And last but not least, I listen, I

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Speaker 1: can't speak to the to the Tennessee Titans Ray Horde

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Speaker 1: and Mike Malarkey thing. Mike Malarkey went on a podcast

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Speaker 1: and said that he was told he was getting the job.

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Speaker 1: They were going to do a fake interview for the

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Speaker 1: Rooney Rule. But when it comes to Steve Wilkes, he

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Speaker 1: is one of the worst head coaches I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: He went one and done. I saw Jim Tom Sula,

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Speaker 1: he went one and done. He was terrible. Freddie Kitchens

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Speaker 1: he went one undone. He was terrible. Steve Wilkes, to me,

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Speaker 1: was on their level. It was a clown show, an

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Speaker 1: absolute embarrassment as a head coach. And one of his

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Speaker 1: arguments is Steve Kim who got a d U I

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Speaker 1: got extended. And I said at the time when he

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Speaker 1: got the Dewey, I'm like, well, if they fired him,

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Speaker 1: like listen, it's a fireable offense being a general manager

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Speaker 1: in the league and getting into d Y. Now he

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Speaker 1: was not fired. But there was a big difference in

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Speaker 1: Steve Kim and Steve Wilkes. Steve Kim had built a

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Speaker 1: team that had been in the NFC Championship. Steve Kim

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Speaker 1: had hired Bruce Arians. Steve Kim had orchestrated a trade

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Speaker 1: for Carson Palmer, had drafted all these sweet players. Steve

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Speaker 1: Wilkes had done. None of that came in. Steve Wilkes

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Speaker 1: is what I'd call Tommy Losorda used to call them

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Speaker 1: a limousine. I call it an uber x. He's an

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Speaker 1: uber X coach, you send the uber X to the

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Speaker 1: hotel the day of the game because under no circumstances

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Speaker 1: do you want to make sure that he's not late

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Speaker 1: for kickoff, because you can't wait for him being on

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Speaker 1: the other sideline so you can beat the ship out

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Speaker 1: of him. He was terrible. Brian Flores was a good

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Speaker 1: head coach. We saw it. But I've said the same

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Speaker 1: thing over and over about Steve Ross, Stephen Ross firing

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Speaker 1: him like he chose not to tank and it led

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Speaker 1: them to to and not Joe Burrow. That is a

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Speaker 1: organizational failure. It just did. They won three of their

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Speaker 1: last five games. That's a debacle like that that can't happen.

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Speaker 1: But like listen, Brian Flores should be a head coach again.

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Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes never should be. I don't even think he's

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Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. He was a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: the year after he's been out of the league because

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Speaker 1: he's not any good. And sometimes there are coaches, black, white, whatever,

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Speaker 1: who are just terrible. Freddie Kitchens was a joke. Jim

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Speaker 1: tom Sula was even a bigger joke, probably equal Steve Wilkes. Actually,

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Speaker 1: unlike those two guys could give a press conference, he

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Speaker 1: couldn't coach the team out of a wet paperback. So

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Speaker 1: sometimes you're not meant to be a head coach. You

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Speaker 1: do not know what you're doing. And using Steve come

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Speaker 1: get an extension like yeah, check his resume. He just

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Speaker 1: somehow him and Keakesbury got to the It's like, well

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Speaker 1: they hired Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah, three years later has him

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They had eleven wins eleven Like that

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Speaker 1: happened your team when he was the head coach, had

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Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft. You know the

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Speaker 1: reason they got Kyler Murray was because Steve Wilkes was

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Speaker 1: the head coach. Like that happened. I witnessed it. Unlike

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, like I watch all the NFC

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Speaker 1: West games. I saw that team and the Cardinals listen

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Speaker 1: to someone that they've given the forty niners for a decade.

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Speaker 1: The only time they didn't. It was like, that's their team.

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Speaker 1: This is going on this guy that guy and actually

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Speaker 1: might even beat him that year. But just watching that

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Speaker 1: team play, I mean, they were just a joke. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's gonna be much merit behind

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Speaker 1: that one now the Titans situation that could get dicey.

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Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes like, give me a break. Uh, have a

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Speaker 1: good weekend, Enjoy, enjoy the Masters and uh and yeah,

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