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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, March. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and now

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Speaker 1: a guy who's never postponed the later canceled but probably

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Speaker 1: self isolated edition from the home studio. J P. Shadrick

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Speaker 1: with you. We've got plenty to get to putting a

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Speaker 1: Jaguars news. Over the last couple of days and even

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Speaker 1: into today, around free agency, a couple of trades have

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Speaker 1: They've agreed to terms and pending physicals and a signature

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Speaker 1: Who knows when they'll become official. Here's what's coming up

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Speaker 1: on the show today, all the Jaguars talk. We'll hear

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Speaker 1: from Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk. He's coming on

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Speaker 1: at four thirty today. We'll touch on the Jaguars moves

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Speaker 1: stories from around the National Football League as well. A

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Speaker 1: lot going on there. Tom Brady on the move, Philip

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Speaker 1: reason why this free agency period has been so newsworthy.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear from Jeff log Aman at four forty five

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Speaker 1: to break down all the Jaguars moves and what they

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Speaker 1: mean moving forward, and Jaguars dot Com senior writer John

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Speaker 1: Osier joins us now over the phone lines, John, how

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Speaker 1: are you? And it's um, it's kind of sad to

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Speaker 1: be self isolated from you, but good afternoon. Well people

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Speaker 1: who have been wanting me to social distance for a

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Speaker 1: a very difficult time, no doubt, um, but good to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. It's been a couple of days and

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of work going on behind

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Jaguars news out there on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot Com, including all of your riding everything that's going on. Um,

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Speaker 1: JP teams and the Jaguars did this and a lot

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Speaker 1: front end, and in some cases it's a high risk investment.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they went for it last year believing

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Speaker 1: It never worked out, And maybe it could have worked

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Speaker 1: but the circumstances, it just felt right to try to

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Speaker 1: and we move along now to some other deals that

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Speaker 1: continue with the A. J. Boyer trade. His physical was

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Speaker 1: home studio today. Glad you're along with us on this

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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon thanks to John Oser, Jaguars dot Com senior writer,

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Speaker 1: joining us earlier. Jeff Logoman, Jack's analysts coming up a

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Speaker 1: little bit later to break down the Jaguars editions. Now

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Speaker 1: on the phone line, it's Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk,

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Speaker 1: and Mike, this is the the strangest of weeks in

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Speaker 1: our one of our strangest weeks in our country's history,

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Speaker 1: not not much less the sports world. But you look

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Speaker 1: online just now, moments ago you put up on Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk that Sean Payton has tested positive for COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 1: This is now officially touched the NFL community. I don't

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Speaker 1: remember anybody else, at least publicly testing positive in the

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Speaker 1: NFL yet, Mike, how are you. I'm doing well, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's the first one to test positive. And we continue

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Speaker 1: to be in that weird phase of this where we

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Speaker 1: assume a lot more people have it than we know about,

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Speaker 1: and they're typically only testing people who have symptoms or

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Speaker 1: who know they have been exposed to someone who's tested positive.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if coach Payton has any symptoms.

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Speaker 1: He says he came forward just to encourage people to

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Speaker 1: take the situation seriously, as plenty of people are. But

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Speaker 1: there's still plenty of people out there who just don't

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Speaker 1: get it, they don't understand it, they don't want to

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Speaker 1: understand it, or they understand it, and they still choose

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Speaker 1: It's pretty clear, Mike, that there's never really been a

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Speaker 1: week or a month ahead, or a two or three

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Speaker 1: months ahead in sports like we have right now. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember anything like this in my life. Maybe nine

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Speaker 1: eleven that was a week, a week and a half

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Speaker 1: of games not playing or anything happening. World War two,

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Speaker 1: maybe you know, but that's well before our lifetimes. World

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Speaker 1: War two created some strange outcomes for the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: as you would expect. I don't know if the league

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Speaker 1: was ever shut down, but at one point the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles were combined into one team because so

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Speaker 1: many NFL age players were off fighting the war, either

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Speaker 1: in the European theater or the Pacific theater. And I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. Look, the difference here is most of

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Speaker 1: the situations that we've lived through have been discreete immediate

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Speaker 1: moments that subside and we pick up the pieces and

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Speaker 1: we figure out a way to move forward. This is

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Speaker 1: some thing where as I've said this week several times,

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Speaker 1: we're standing at the bottom of a mountain. We're looking

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Speaker 1: straight up and we have no idea where the top

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Speaker 1: of it is, and we just start climbing and it

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Speaker 1: changes everything. It's going to wipe out. I believe the

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Speaker 1: entire offseason program for the NFL is going to create

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Speaker 1: a different reality for the draft. The training camp openings

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Speaker 1: may be delayed. Who knows how many different impacts it's

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Speaker 1: going to have because of the reality that we need

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Speaker 1: to remain in a situation where the spread is minimized

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Speaker 1: to protect the people who are the most vulnerable from

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Speaker 1: dying from You know, in every TV show or movie

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Speaker 1: or book that we've ever come across regarding a pandemic

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Speaker 1: like this or some sort of a virus that overtakes

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Speaker 1: the population, there's never one where so many people are

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Speaker 1: perfectly fine and they're walking around with it. That's what's

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Speaker 1: weird about Usually it's the exception. It's the Will Smith

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Speaker 1: and I am legend who doesn't get affected by the virus.

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Speaker 1: It's not the vast majority of people are fine, which

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Speaker 1: causes some of the vast majority to act like everything

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Speaker 1: is fine while a significant percentage of the population is

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Speaker 1: at risk of dying from it. Mike Florio Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk joining us that said, was the NFL right to

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Speaker 1: continue with the free agency starting on Wednesday and the

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Speaker 1: negotiation period leading up to that, or should it be

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Speaker 1: should it have been delayed as well? I personally believed

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Speaker 1: it should have been delayed now. I thought things were

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Speaker 1: going to get a lot worse this week than they

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Speaker 1: did as of Monday morning. I believe that by Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: at four pm Eastern, when the new league year began,

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Speaker 1: there was a very good chance that there was going

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Speaker 1: to be a national quarantine put in place, which would

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Speaker 1: have made it impossible for anyone to finalize transactions and

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Speaker 1: just would have slammed the brakes on everything. In hindsight,

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Speaker 1: I think it worked out for the NFL. I know

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Speaker 1: that there's some frustration out there on the part of

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Speaker 1: teams that believe some of the rules the NFL put

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Speaker 1: the needs of the teams are, and there's been some

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Speaker 1: relaxation of some of the some of the provisions that

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Speaker 1: it really didn't make a whole lot of sense, like

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Speaker 1: not announcing any deals until the physicals can be accomplished,

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Speaker 1: because getting the physicals done has been the most cumbersome

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Speaker 1: part of this, because players can't come to the facility

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Speaker 1: and the doctors can't go to the players. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I I thought they should have waited. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, the business needed to get done at

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Speaker 1: some point, and it did provide several days of a

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Speaker 1: diversion and a distraction from people who are coming to

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Speaker 1: grips with the fact that they're going to be inside

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Speaker 1: for a while. Although I had a good friend asked

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Speaker 1: me the other day, not connected to the NFL world,

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Speaker 1: should they really have done this? Because it is odd

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Speaker 1: when people are trying to figure out where their money

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Speaker 1: months to read about all of these guys signing multimillion

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Speaker 1: dollar contracts. And that was one of the concerns I

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Speaker 1: had the optics. But the other concern was just more pragmatic.

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Speaker 1: When is the curtain coming down on a national quarantine

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Speaker 1: and if you've already started this process, It's going to

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Speaker 1: be very difficult to stop it. Mike Florio with us

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Speaker 1: at Pro Football Talk on Twitter now that said, since

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Speaker 1: they kept it going, the negotiation period and the free

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Speaker 1: agency opening of the league year and all that, I

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Speaker 1: don't remember a period of the last three or four

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Speaker 1: days as hectic as this. And the big reason why,

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Speaker 1: at least for me, Mike, is the quarterback names involved,

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Speaker 1: starting with the goat, Tom Brady. You throw those quarterback

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Speaker 1: names around in a free agency cycle, it doesn't get

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Speaker 1: much bigger than that. Yeah, it was going to be,

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Speaker 1: before the world turned upside down, one of the most

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Speaker 1: compelling free agency periods of all time, and it still was.

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't as compelling as it could have been

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Speaker 1: because of everything that occurred, obviously the Tom Brady factor,

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Speaker 1: the anticipate nation of who was actually going to get

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Speaker 1: in on that, And my understanding is he had a

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Speaker 1: set of terms that he communicated to the Buccaneers, the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: and possibly of the teams. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers and the Charges are the ones who said

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Speaker 1: But that was just part of this game of musical

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Speaker 1: chairs where we saw just strange developments. Philip Rivers to

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Speaker 1: to go wherever. The Nick Foles trade obviously something that

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Speaker 1: we thought was a possibility if someone was going to

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Speaker 1: step up and take that contract without expecting Jacksonville to

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Speaker 1: pay any of it. So, you know, the music has

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Speaker 1: slowed down. The Patriots don't have anyone they've acquired other

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Speaker 1: than the guy they have in Jared Stidham, who could

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Speaker 1: very well take over. Andy Dalton still available in trade

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Speaker 1: from the Bengals, Cam Newton still available, Jamis Winston looking

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Speaker 1: for a job. And you know, for a while, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't sure whether it would be more teams than there

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Speaker 1: were quarterbacks, and more quarterbacks than there were teams. But

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Speaker 1: it's clear right now that there are more quarterbacks floating

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Speaker 1: around than there are starting jobs in the NFL. Mike,

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Speaker 1: it happens quick. For the Jaguars just a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, they're in the a s

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Speaker 1: C Championship Game, and I think currently there are three

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Speaker 1: defensive players that started in that game in New England

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Speaker 1: that are still on the roster, including Unique and Gokway

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Speaker 1: who's tagged. We know the stories around him right now.

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Speaker 1: It happens quick in the NFL, and the rebuild is

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Speaker 1: on here in Jacksonville. Yeah, And I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I would call it a rebuild per se. I think

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Speaker 1: these are things that the team needs to do to

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Speaker 1: have the cap space necessary to go with the nucleus

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Speaker 1: of young talent that they believe in. I'm not stunned

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Speaker 1: by any of the moves that have been made, and

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Speaker 1: I don't look at it and say it's tanking. Tanking

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Speaker 1: is when you start tearing it down during the season.

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Speaker 1: This is a deliberate attempt to make the team better,

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Speaker 1: to have cap space available to operate, to choose Gardner

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Speaker 1: Minshew as the starting quarterback and give him a chance

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Speaker 1: to move forward as the guy he's the possible Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: the sixth round pick that fell into their laps that

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Speaker 1: And he's passed all the tests, and he's an exciting player,

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Speaker 1: and he he stimulates the fan base, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you're looking for. And yeah, you want to also win.

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Speaker 1: But I don't look at this because I've seen so

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Speaker 1: many people in the meteor like every every move that

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Speaker 1: gets made while they're tanking, while they're tanking, while they're tanking.

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Speaker 1: No they're not. And we'll see if this is a

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Speaker 1: deliberate process that ultimately results in the team being better

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Speaker 1: than it was last year. Mike, great stuff, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for the for joining us on such short notice, and

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Speaker 1: stay safe there in West Virginia. We're all right, sure,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Talking to Mike Floria Pro Football Talk. Always

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Speaker 1: a good visit with him at Pro Football Talk on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Busy times around the National Football League. The Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: Apparently the physical happening today in New York reportedly, and

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Speaker 1: a lot happened. Yeah, this has been a strange obviously

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Speaker 1: are you a j P? Good to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: and Uh. In this world of self isolation, I guess

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Speaker 1: you know, because the Jaguars are are no strangers to

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles with that expensive contract. I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: think that that's kind of crazy, especially when you're talking

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Speaker 1: for Nick Foles when he has a lot of guaranteed

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Speaker 1: a three million dollar savings and salary cap this year,

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Speaker 1: and then he's off the books altogether. So great. You

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Speaker 1: A lot of people criticized Dave called well, but look,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman, this Jaguars analyst that joined us on the

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Speaker 1: phone line on Jaguars Happy Hour. So the Jaguars agree

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Speaker 1: to terms with linebacker Joe Schobert from the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: and he will be the middle linebacker. Miles Jack is

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Speaker 1: moving outside. According to Doug Morone, what do you make

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Speaker 1: of that deal, he's moving to the weak sidelogs. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't don't think anybody's surprises with the move of

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Speaker 1: two years shown that it took. It just wasn't working

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Speaker 1: And the reality is Joe Schoberg is a good football player.

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Speaker 1: He's a natural. Mike Greg Williams, who was the defensive

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Speaker 1: interim head coach with the Cleveland Browns, I mean that

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Speaker 1: guy knows football. And Greg Williams is not one to

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Speaker 1: that he's coached, but he absolutely loves Joe Schoberg and

1015
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Speaker 1: can never say enough good things about him. So I

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Speaker 1: think it's a it's a tremendous acquisition. Acquisition. I think

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Speaker 1: it does a couple of things which allows you to

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Speaker 1: get a good football player, good mittal linebacker, but then

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Speaker 1: for many years Tellvin Smith played it, played it at

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Speaker 1: a pretty high level, and it's a speed position, and

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Speaker 1: for Miles Jack is to take his next step and

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Speaker 1: being a pro. I thought Miles Jack last year, somewhat

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Speaker 1: the year before, played not in the greatest of shape

1027
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Speaker 1: and not at the greatest of weight. And I think

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Speaker 1: a challenging year to do that because who knows if

1030
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1031
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Speaker 1: workouts to be able to do that type of thing

1032
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Speaker 1: in that environment. So he's got to take the challenge

1033
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1034
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Speaker 1: to be able to accept the challenge of moving to

1035
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1036
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Speaker 1: and you may not have the answer, but I'm sure

1037
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Speaker 1: come out earlier in the off season that he was

1039
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Speaker 1: stepping away from football or whatever, the real story is

1040
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Speaker 1: he's not around. If that happened in January right after

1041
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Speaker 1: the season, would Miles have moved to the week side

1042
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Speaker 1: last year? Too close? Was it too close to the

1043
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1044
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Speaker 1: I think it would have been considered, you know. But

1045
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Speaker 1: but I also think that they also wanted to see

1046
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Speaker 1: if he could take that next step at the MIC position,

1047
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Speaker 1: because you can't expect the guy to step in first

1048
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Speaker 1: year replacing Paulpa's Lesnie and to be able to be

1049
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Speaker 1: better than Paulpa's Lesnie. I mean, that's that's just unrealistic,

1050
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Speaker 1: you know. So I think it wanted to give him

1051
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Speaker 1: a chance at that position, regardless of, uh, the issue

1052
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Speaker 1: with Kelvin Smith or Kelvin Smith playing or not playing,

1053
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Speaker 1: you know, to give him an opportunity to take that

1054
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Speaker 1: next step, and and they obviously didn't take it. So

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Speaker 1: now it's going to go to where he's really I think,

1056
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Speaker 1: moving to his natural position. And uh, it also allows

1057
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Speaker 1: him to not worry about trying to call the defense

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Speaker 1: even though he's gonna be capable of that. And then

1059
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Speaker 1: also a third down look of the reality it doesn't

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Speaker 1: develop at their pace. You know, last year Ed Williams

1063
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Speaker 1: out there way too early, and you're talking about a

1064
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Speaker 1: collegiate wow safety that was moved to linebacker, and you're

1065
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Speaker 1: expecting him to come in and be a starting week

1066
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Speaker 1: side linebacker right out of the gate. I think that

1067
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Speaker 1: was an unrealistic expectation. Now you can allow him to

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Speaker 1: just develop on his own time frame and be of

1069
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Speaker 1: course special teamer. And look, if if he earns playtime

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Speaker 1: on defense, then so be it. If he doesn't, then

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Speaker 1: he doesn't. Jeff lockam with us. But you said the

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Speaker 1: key from Miles moving to the weeks side, He's gotta

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Speaker 1: be able to run. He's got to have that speedback

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Speaker 1: right well, all the all the linebackers in the Jaguar system.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's when the coaches talked to the scouting

1076
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Speaker 1: department about what they need a linebacker, they tell him

1077
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Speaker 1: they got to have speed. And because you're talking about

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Speaker 1: linebackers that have to run with a deep over and

1079
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Speaker 1: we're talking about keeping pace with a wide receiver. You know,

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Speaker 1: so pause Lesnie was was fast enough, but if he

1081
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Speaker 1: was a stepper too slower, he wouldn't have been able

1082
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Speaker 1: to play in the Jaguars defense. I mean that's the

1083
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Speaker 1: type of speed that it's required to play in the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars defense. Find a couple of minutes your logs with you.

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Speaker 1: The other additions for the Jacksonville Jaguars da Quiz denard

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Speaker 1: coming in cornerback from the Bengals, he'll compete it outside corner.

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Speaker 1: And Rodney Gunter from the Cardinals. I can play the

1088
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Speaker 1: big end and three technique to move them around up

1089
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Speaker 1: front and competeing and working that depth up front. Two

1090
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Speaker 1: other editions for the Jags your logs. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about Gunner. I mean, who knows about anybody

1092
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Speaker 1: to place for the Cardinals. I mean, I hate to

1093
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Speaker 1: say that, but that's the reality because the Cardinals haven't

1094
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Speaker 1: been very good. And uh so I've got a when

1095
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Speaker 1: I get a chance or when they allow people to

1096
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Speaker 1: come into the stadium, I'm gonna have to watch some

1097
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: some film on him to get a take. But denard

1098
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Speaker 1: Is is a good football player and he's gonna be

1099
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Speaker 1: a starter right away. And he's a physical corner that's

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Speaker 1: not a play afraid to play man. So I think

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Speaker 1: he's a nice addition. I don't know what the cost is.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the numbers on either one of the

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Speaker 1: two guys, but obviously in the second tier market, not

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Speaker 1: the you know, the high high price guy, so you

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Speaker 1: know they should be affordable type players. Logs, thank you

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Speaker 1: for the time today. Always gonna talk to you. We'll

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Speaker 1: try us again next week in this little different set up.

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Speaker 1: But stay safe, you and the family stay safe this week,

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Speaker 1: will you? Thank thank you, JP? And uh it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a different world right at the minshew Mania full

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Speaker 1: speed ahead. I guess it sounds like it is, Logs.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week, okay, JP, see buddy

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Speaker 1: Jeff Log. Jaguars analysts joining us settle to it for

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. Thanks to John Oshan, senior writer Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot Com, Mike Florio for football talk at Jeff Log.

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Speaker 1: But I'm JP shattered. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.