1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: The World's a Vegeon Podcasts. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean your Mike is unparticular. Yeah, it's okay. Watch 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: your piece. 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 3: Dog in the show here. 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: Anyway, this was the episode that Mike do So was 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 4: excited about the future. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: I just I saw I'm able to jump into practice, 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, that's it. 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Ten wins. 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: It would have been two more wins last year, which 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: means two more wins this year, which means the floor 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: is eight. 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: Fred has spoken. 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: The ceiling is settled for Paul. 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: I am still I'm body surfing, I'm old, and I 19 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: still are not recovered. And then I was at the 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: Celtics game. 21 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: You got into it with a shizil barn on the market. 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: Does he care? We're working on it, you know, like 23 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: some people just don't care. Married to whatever him. Hard 24 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: to imagine that this was off the market. Well, I know, 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 3: I saw you. I like blue suit and your Harbor cruise. 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 5: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. For deals, 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 5: buy a Toyota dot Com. 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: atchi Lets Stadium, and it's a busy day. It's the 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: first O t A that the media has had access to. 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: So right now you see that I'm all by my lonesome, 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm fred Kersh. But soon, in momentarily I'll be joined 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: by the gang. 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 3: Uh. 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: They're just wrapping up practice in player availability after practice, 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: so uh, don't fear you won't have to put up 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: with just me for the next two hours. 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: But as I said, practice was today, I was out 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: there for a little bit before I had to come in. 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 2: Pretty nice day here at Jillette Stadium, a little overcast, cool, 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: I would say, you know, a little mile for this 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: time of year, temperature in the fifties, a little bit 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: of breeze. Teams were out in helmets in shells, so 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: they had their jerseys on with their numbers as in 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: years past. Remember sometimes they didn't put numbers on until 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: into training camp at some point when the preseason game started. 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: But they had numbers right away. So we'll get an 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: attendance report, a full attendance report when the guys get back. 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: But it was a nice day out there. It looked 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: like a normal practice. You know, started out with some 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: unit drills, then it went to stretching, then they break 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: out back into you know, the position drills. I don't 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: know if they got into seven and sevens. I didn't 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: stay that long. We'll get that report a little later, 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: but it was I would say, a productive day for 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: the team. Good to be out there. Mike Rabel had 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: a press conference prior to the practice where he talked about, 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: you know, it's mostly a teaching practice this time of year, 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: but there is some evaluation that goes on, not really 61 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: like who's going to beat out who for a position, 62 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: but more how is an individual doing? How have they 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: taken to learning so far? Are they a repeat? Are 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: they making mistakes more than once? Are they absorbing what 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: they're telling us? So in that way, there is evaluation 66 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: that's going on in addition. 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: To the teaching. 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: And as I say that the ultimate teacher comes in 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: and sits down, it's Mike too. 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: So the first off the field, Hello, Mike. 71 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: I know I was just giving people a little bit 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: of an update of what I saw, but I left early. Yeah, 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: pretty much right after stretching, So you can fill us 74 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: in what happened after that. 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: Well, I feel compelled to probably just tell people that 76 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: Drake May did throw four interceptions today, and that's probably 77 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: going to be a headline for a lot of a 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: lot of the reports you read. But hearing from the 79 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: people after the practice, including Hunter, Henry said, this is 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: our second day all together working on this second day 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: in the Josh mctaniel's offense. 82 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: So just to give everybody a little bit of. 83 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 4: I had to focus on the positive, all right, Christians 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: can Christian Dallas had two of them. 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: As I consult my notes here. 86 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't like, oh my god, terrible interceptions, 87 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: but you know, a couple of them were really nice 88 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 4: plays by by Gonzalez. It was a tough period where 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: it was del Pettis, then Gonzalez got to and then 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: Craig Woodson, the rookie, caught it deflected interception as well. 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: So it was a rough little period there for Drake 92 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 4: that I'm sure everybody's going to talk about and overreact to. 93 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: But I'll just say this. 94 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: Let me just well before we get back to that, though, 95 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: I just say the thing that caught my eyes I 96 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 4: was walking out here was Morgan Moses and Will Campbell 97 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 4: a one on one session in the middle of the practice. 98 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: I might need a moment. No, I might need a moment. 99 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: You'll be happy to know that our videos, members of 100 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: radio team, we're capturing this. But I mean it went 101 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: on a good I would say five to ten minutes 102 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: that Morgan Moses is just exactly taking young Will Campbell under. 103 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: His wing, giving him some coaching points. So that as 104 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: I walked up, I was excited about that. Yeah. 105 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, everybody was kind of like, hey, look, it's 106 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: like everybody could tell but no, So I thought there 107 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 4: was a lot to take away from today, but those 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: are going to be the headline. So I just feel 109 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 4: like you got to get it out. People are going 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: to be you know, they were asking Hunter Henry about 111 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: the interceptions. They asked Christian Zalez about the interception. So 112 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: it is it, like I said, it's day two for 113 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 4: these guys in this offense. 114 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: So so they. 115 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 2: Actually did do like seven and seven or eleven on eleven. 116 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did. 117 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 4: They did some eleven on eleven work and you know 118 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: at the end there was more walk through speed and 119 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: you could hear Rabel like, we're not trying to make 120 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: plays on the ball like this is just walk through, 121 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: which Paul turned to me and was like, I hope 122 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 4: the media made note of that because it's a little 123 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: bit of a different pace there at the very end. 124 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: But I thought though after that session where Drake through 125 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: those interceptions, he bounced back, he had some nice plays. 126 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: I had one nice throw to Kyle Williams down the sideline. 127 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 4: I think everyone wants to hear about the rookies. Kyle 128 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 4: Williams was very involved today, as was Trevon Henderson. Both 129 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: those two rookies getting a lot of run and will 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: Campbell with Henderson catching balls, catching the ball look comfortable, 131 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: looks smooth. I think, you know, I don't want to 132 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: speak for Paul, who look he can't be here, but 133 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: he said he did. He felt like Henderson looked really 134 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: comfortable catching the ball, which you know, if you watched 135 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: him play in college, but once he gets here in 136 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 4: the NFL and you see him in then at Patriots, 137 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: you know, helmet and practice uniform, it it's a little 138 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: bit different. So I thought those guys stood out to me. 139 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: That's great. 140 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then as far as coaching, obviously you mentioned 141 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: Mike rabel I told our listeners that he had his 142 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: pre practice press conference. Yeah, but some of the other 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: new coaches, did you catch a glimpse of like their style? Yeah, 144 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: I mean I look obviously McDaniels, everybody probably want to know, 145 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: like he was obviously very involved with Drake. 146 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: It's just great to see the visor back out there, 147 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: that the Drake may visor where he's He's sorry that 148 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: Josh McDaniel's visor. I'm merging them together. But Scott Booker 149 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 4: can used to stand out to me. And I don't 150 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: know if that's simply a function of Terrell Williams not 151 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: being here yet to coordinate the defense. 152 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: I know, he said. 153 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: Zach Kerr, the linebackers coach, has been taking a bigger role. 154 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: He was very active in some of the defensive periods 155 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: I watched. But Scott Booker's just hard to miss. He's 156 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: very loud voice. He seems like he knows where he 157 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: wants guys. He's always got a smile. He's just got 158 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: a lot of really great energy. Everyone focuses on Vrabel's 159 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: energy and him dropping, and that wasn't as much of 160 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: that today, certainly helping various groups out, but wasn't as 161 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: much in the drills at the end in that walkthrough period, 162 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: hopped out at a safety spot. 163 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: To give a look. But yeah, those are the Booker's 164 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: a guy that stuck out to me for sure. 165 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: And do we have a chance to have a first 166 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 2: look at our new kicker? 167 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: All right, rookie kick a little bit. 168 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, they did a short kicking period. The first one 169 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: he kicked, it went through me and Paul. I mean, 170 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: this is we're getting to be more refined with our kicker. 171 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: Like it was kind of going ten to four. It 172 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: was a little bit of a side. But then as 173 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: other ones look fine, I mean he hit all of them. 174 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: That was a very short It wasn't a competitive period. 175 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: They weren't trying to amp up like last year they 176 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: did where you know, the team lines up around them 177 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: and you know it was just kind of, hey, kick 178 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: some field goals. So so he was fine. I don't think. 179 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm just sorry. I'm still gathering my thoughts here. I 180 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: don't think. 181 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: I don't think Farmer was out there. Farmer one of 182 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 4: the rookies, so he was one of the ones missing. 183 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: But for the most part they had pretty much the 184 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: whole group. I mean, Diggs wasn't there. Stevenson, which I 185 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: don't know if you talked about that yet, but I haven't. 186 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: His father passed away in March, so Mike, we're able 187 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: talked a little bit about that. He was here, he's left, 188 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: so they've. 189 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: Been in communication. He's dealing with ye with that at home. 190 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: But really those were the only three, Uh, you know, 191 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: a lot of guys limited though, but for the most part, 192 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 4: the whole team is pretty much here other than Diggs, 193 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: Stevenson and Farmer, So. 194 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: I think that's a good sign. 195 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, from what I gathered, the vibe was 196 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: really good, upbeat, energetic and breaking out of huddles, quick 197 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: music playing. And you know, some fans might be interested 198 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: to know. Were there any notable differences from last year. 199 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. 200 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: I mean there weren't a lot of differences last year 201 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: between what we had seen under Bill Belichick and you know, 202 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: then this year, and I mean it's I find it interesting, 203 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: but you know, it's just kind of changing up the 204 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: dynamics of when you stretch and instead of being all right, 205 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna stand on the sidelines and walk to the 206 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: middle and back, we're now we're all gonna be down 207 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: one end and walk from the end zone forward you know, 208 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: so some subtle differences like that, but I think overall 209 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 4: the general feeling of how practice goes where they get 210 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 4: out there, they do a little walk through with some 211 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: positional stuff. I guess now I'm saying it though, Fred, 212 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: maybe that's the difference. It's in the past, it felt 213 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: like we get out there, they do walk through that 214 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: was like we couldn't tape it or anything because they'd 215 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: be working on some kind of team piece of it, 216 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: and to really yeah, maybe maybe truly, but now it 217 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: seems like the early earlier drills, and again this could yeah, 218 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: this could just be OTA's but more position group based. 219 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: It's a little looser, guys are a little slower coming out. 220 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 3: I think that's just OTA related. 221 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: But but once you got into it, I'd say generally 222 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: it kind of falls the same. 223 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: You get into eleven on eleven, seven on seven towards 224 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: the end. 225 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: And when Paul and Evan comes, we'll get their take 226 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: on it as well. While you're here, I also want 227 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: to mention people probably know that on Friday we released 228 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: the episode one of Forged in Foxborough. So so far 229 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: it looks like you all like it. About over three 230 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy thousand views just on YouTube awesome, So 231 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, I want to get into that if people 232 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: have comments about that, what they like, what they didn't like. Mike, 233 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: I saw that you had an extended review with FITZI online. 234 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: I went on with Fitzy this morning. He you know, 235 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: wanted to talk a little bit about it. Of course, 236 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: I think I have about a thirty and mall even 237 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: twenty second cameo in it, which was really cool to 238 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: be part of it. 239 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: But I just for me, I've always I talk about 240 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: it all the time on this show. I always bring up. 241 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: The Football Life with Bill back in two thousand and nine, 242 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: and for me, seeing behind the scenes of a coach 243 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: speaking to the team and really how the coach wants 244 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: to mold that team and putting his imprint on it. 245 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: And I think that to me right from the get 246 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: go with Rabel behind the scenes, hearing him talk to 247 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: the team, and it just reinforces for me what we've 248 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: seen out at these two practices we watched so far, 249 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 4: that he's putting his stamp on this team, like this 250 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: is his team. He knows what he wants, he knows 251 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: what he's looking for, and you know, had an extended 252 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: kind of not talking to but just broke the team 253 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: down for a while at the end of practice, you know, 254 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: given his message. 255 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: So it's just you can tell. 256 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's the same thing I noticed where 257 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what position it is, he's talking to 258 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: the punt returners about. 259 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: You know, you just see him going up to the 260 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: random third string guy that just took. 261 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: A rep and getting up there and and showing him 262 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: the technique that he's looking for. 263 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: So it's it's encouraging. 264 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: It's going to be fascinating this year because we've got 265 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: a guy in Mike Rabel who, throughout his playing career, 266 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: it was. 267 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: Obvious that this guy was going to be a coach. 268 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everybody who interacted with him on the 269 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: field saw how smart he was and how he absorbed everything, 270 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: not just like his own position, but what the whole 271 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: team was doing. And he was also absorbing as he 272 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,239 Speaker 2: went along, how coaches operate and how practices were operated. 273 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: And you know during the week, how you know, Bill 274 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: prepared the team for the opponent, and then not just here, 275 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: but in all his stops, Ohio State and Houston Oilers, And. 276 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: It's just so obvious. 277 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: So now you know, he has his first stint in Tennessee, 278 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: and I think the Patriots are going to have the 279 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: benefit of a guy who now gets another chance at 280 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: it and he's learned even more and you know, can 281 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: learn not only the stuff that he did well, but 282 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: from his mistakes in Tennessee. And we're going to be 283 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: the beneficiary of that. So I'm really excited to see that. 284 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: And when I see him out there, that's what I see. 285 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: I see a guy that's ultra confident in what he's 286 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: doing and knows what he wants to do, Like he knows, Okay, 287 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: this is how I want to interact with Specialty. And 288 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: by the way, the first group that he with today 289 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 2: with special Teams, you know you would think, oh, he's 290 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: going to go right to the defense or Drake. No, 291 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: he was Special Teams. And I think every part of 292 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: this team. I think he has an idea already how 293 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: he wants that unit to be and how his interaction 294 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: and his you know, involvement in that group will be. 295 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: It's I think he's got the whole season planned out. Yeah, 296 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: I swear to. 297 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: God well, and that's and that's why I said to 298 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: Paul Paul was getting ready to interview him for something. 299 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: He's right, and I think it might be for the 300 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: for the Game Day magazine. But that's what I My 301 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: interesting question with for Rabes is just what did you learn? Like, 302 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: what's different? How did you go into Tennessee? What did 303 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: you change a little bit? We always knew he had 304 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: the knowledge. I think what's been fun for me to 305 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: watch is him develop his coaching style. 306 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: It's one thing to. 307 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 4: Like have the knowledge to be able to coach it, 308 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: but you also have to teach, and we hear him 309 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 4: talk about being a teacher so much so I think 310 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: you really see the influence of his parents as educators 311 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: on him getting guys up to speed and you know 312 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: clearly the guy can hold a room and capture that attention. 313 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: Evan has joined us. Evan, you are out there. Put 314 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: him on the cut cut to we couldn't take my song? 315 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: You got a song? I'm special. No, it feels good 316 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: to be back right back in the saddle football out there. 317 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: So what you know, come off the legend Due already 318 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: gave the headlines that probably everyone will be which was 319 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: Drake May's day. 320 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but aside from that, what would be your headline, 321 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: I would say, you know, just looking at the two 322 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: pairings on defense, Christian Barmore and Milton Williams on the 323 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: defensive line, and then obviously Gonzo and Carlton Davis that corner, 324 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: it felt like those two guys, those tandems were together 325 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: all day long, working early on you know, and I 326 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: think you can see the goal there, you know, see 327 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: the the vision in terms of the roster on defense, 328 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: and you know, we always get out of these practices 329 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: and it's always you know, it was it a good 330 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: day for the offense or a good day for the defense, 331 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: or a bad day for the offense, or whatever the 332 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: case may be. But Christian Gonzalez looked like the best 333 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: player on the field, which I don't think is a 334 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: big surprise, but it was certainly palpable in this practice. 335 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: Just I thought his second interception that he had on 336 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: on Drake May was just an incredible play. I mean, 337 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: you look at that play and you kind of just 338 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: have to tip your cap to the corner and be like, 339 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: that's that's mean he covered like forty yards, Like I 340 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: don't know what. 341 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: You know, as you say that isn't this good for 342 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: Drake May to have Carlton Davis and Christian Gonzales in 343 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: every one of his practices and to be going against 344 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: what could be one of the best pairs of corners 345 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: in the league every day, just the way Brady you know, 346 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: benefited from having Tylaw out there, and you know. 347 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so love it. I love it. We wanted to 348 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: throw in himself. 349 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's not so much that, but you know, he's 350 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: going to learn from practice where I would say, you know, 351 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: there might be a lot of young quarterbacks who don't 352 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: have you know, that type of uh you know skill again, 353 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: you know, working against them where they don't get to 354 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: learn in practice as much. So another thing to be 355 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: excited about if you're Patriots fans. 356 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: Sure, and both those guys Davis and gazalz hopping in. 357 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: Gonzalez last year is coming off an injury, he was 358 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: still getting his feet wet and understanding how to play. 359 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's a lot of promising pieces on defense. 360 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: I mean, there's plenty to digest. It's but it seems 361 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 4: like a lot of different personnel moving around, trying guys 362 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: out at certain spots. Thought the safety's got a lot 363 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: of a lot of long looks to the lower end 364 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: safety guys, you know, like the del Pettises of the world, 365 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: the Craig Woodson's of the world. 366 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: Those guys getting a lot of runs. So it's it's fun. 367 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's fun for me is defense guy, to 368 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: see it start to come together and you know, to 369 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: see splaying out there and the free agency behind the 370 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 4: guys that Evan mentioned with Barmore and Williams, and you 371 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: really see the core of this new defense. 372 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: It's it's going to be different and I'm excited about Yeah, 373 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: anything else. Evan, Well, I know that the headlines are 374 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: going to be about the four picks. Yeah, and I 375 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: know that's gonna a lot of people are gonna read 376 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: that and be like, oh, And I would just say 377 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: it's very early on, Like we're watching day two of 378 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: OTAs and we're watching an offense with Josh McDaniels that 379 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: I kind of expected to be a slow burn. Like 380 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: I think we all we talked about it that there 381 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: was a lot of mentally on the quarterback. There's a 382 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: lot of technical things. You know, there are instances today 383 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: where you know, he's hot, he's got you know, an 384 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: unblocked blitzer and he's got to make a quick decision, 385 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: and you know, was that a protection thing that they 386 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: should have moved the protection to pick up the blitzers 387 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: he's supposed to just throw. And there's some hesitancies there 388 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: and you know, route details and like there's all these 389 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: little intricacies to offensive football, especially in this kind of 390 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: system that on May twentieth, like there's just gonna be 391 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: bumps in the road, and you just hope as we 392 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: go here that it just gets better and better and 393 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: better and those mistakes, you know, become fewer and fewer. 394 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 3: Nobody likes to see the quarterback throw picks like that's 395 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 3: that's not going to be positive no matter what. But 396 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised that as we see it here at 397 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 3: a very early stage of the off season, that this 398 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: McDaniel's offense isn't what it's going to look like come 399 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: September or October, November. It's it's a complicated system. It's 400 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: gonna take some time, of course. 401 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: Of course. All right, let's get to some calls. Is 402 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: Paul cumming or is he you know, he had to 403 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: go to his thing. Oh that's right, Yeah, he's got 404 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: a thing. 405 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I sat with him, though I got all 406 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: his thoughts. Okay, he's very excited, very excited. 407 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's let's add in some listeners and 408 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: also remember, you know, I want to carve out some 409 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: time at some point for your reaction to Forge in 410 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: Foxborough to see what people have to say about that. 411 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: But you know, while practice is still fresh on our minds, 412 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: let's get any questions that we might have. We'll start 413 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: with Patty and Agawam, what's up Patty's everyone? 414 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, a. 415 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 6: Frid, I just want to go straight to four and Foxborough. 416 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 7: Okay, I watched the whole thing to the end, including 417 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 7: all the credits, and I've got to stay a big 418 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 7: bravo to you, my man. 419 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 6: And I've said this almost every year that I've been 420 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 6: a listener and a caller and an emailer for the 421 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 6: last thirty years. You're the undisputed king of Patriots media. 422 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: Well I had to probably the least amount to do 423 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 2: with it than anyone, but I appreciate that. 424 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: Thank you. 425 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 6: But anyone that doesn't know the name Fred Kirsch or 426 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 6: Patriots on Filter Sport, that does not come to Patriots 427 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 6: dot com, you're doing yourself a disservice as a Patriots 428 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 6: band Wow, that's all I gotta say. 429 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: All right, what happened in practice? 430 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: Plater go Okay, thank you, Patty. 431 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: Unfortunately he's talking to people who do know s so, 432 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: but that's I appreciate. 433 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: That was kind of a fun part for me though, 434 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: Like obviously the whole thing was great, but then to 435 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: get you get to the credits and it's like all 436 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: people that you know and are friends with and you 437 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 3: just see all your coworkers get in some shine. It 438 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: was cool. 439 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I worry about that though. I don't like 440 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: the you know, saying giving credit to ourselves like today, 441 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: I guess we were won a bunch of awards Teley 442 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: Awards for various things that we did in twenty twenty four, 443 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: including the Tom Brady Day, and it's great, but like 444 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: I feel uncomfortable saying. 445 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, look what we want. 446 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 2: Ye I know that's the way it is today and 447 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: you you know, you celebrate your accomplishments and all that, 448 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: but I don't know, I was kind of schooled under 449 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: a different regime where you kind of give credit to 450 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: others and yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, So I don't 451 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 2: know what's that, Matt, because we didn't nominate it for anything. 452 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: Podcast we probably should have. Yeah, is there like a 453 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: podcast thing that you can do? There's the Channel Market 454 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: Media survey, right that they do every year where they say, 455 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah yeah, the best Patriots podcast. 456 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a survey. 457 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 458 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: We we usually register in that one, don't we, even 459 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: though we're not we're not. Did people write us in? Yeah, 460 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: we don't get really bad? 461 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: Yeah that's how we. 462 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: But Matt will we'll make note of that for next 463 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: year to you know, whatever the podcast award committees are. 464 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: It was Rhode Island Monthly's Best Part. Okay, it all 465 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: right good. 466 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 4: A lot of these awards it's like you just have 467 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: to submit it, I know, and you submit it and 468 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 4: you pay the fee, you might win. 469 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: That's the other thing. 470 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, all of them are money making. 471 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: That was like, you know, I discovered when I was 472 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: a screenwriting contest. That's like, you know huge, It's just 473 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: that people can't screenwrite them. They have screenwriting contests like 474 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: pay me to read your scripts and here's the best. 475 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: Smart right right, Yeah, it's a money grab all right. 476 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: Dominique is in New York. What's up Dominique here? 477 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: How you doing good? 478 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: Good? 479 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 8: The first and foremost like congress on the documentary about 480 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 8: the phenomenal I really really enjoyed it, Evan, I know 481 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 8: a part but for me this is you know, our 482 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 8: hot arts, and I actually appreciate the hype that you 483 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 8: know it's given me for the season. I appreciate the 484 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 8: shots of Will Campbell just being you know, brought into Foxbug, 485 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 8: getting a little bit of understanding what you know, the 486 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 8: draft process was for the past this year. So you'all 487 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 8: did a phenomenal job. I'm really excited to see the 488 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 8: second episode and get to know the plays a little 489 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 8: bit more, you know, get some interviews. So so, great 490 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 8: job there, y'all for a real great job. 491 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 492 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 8: So I have a quick question outside of that. I 493 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 8: know everyone we all know that May have these tools 494 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 8: to be the franchise quarterback. I think some people are 495 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 8: labeling that I'm a little bit of hesitant. 496 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 9: I feel like with. 497 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 8: These conversations I always try to point to at least 498 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 8: the string of plays or games where you realize he 499 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 8: is the one or he should be the one. Can 500 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 8: either of you, all three of you recall when you 501 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 8: realize whether it was a game a string of plays 502 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 8: that Drake May is the potential franchise quarter you know, 503 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 8: quarterback for the next ten to fifteen years. I'll take 504 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 8: it off one. 505 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks. 506 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: So when was the moment last year where you realize 507 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: he is or could be the franchise court now for Paul, 508 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: he he'd say I have it. 509 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 4: I don't think he'd be totally wrong to say that, 510 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 4: but I would say, just for me to hoot that 511 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 4: Houston game when he threw the touchdown of Booty. I mean, 512 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: it's we saw throws like that in training camp and 513 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 4: he just translated it to a game. 514 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: But that's as close as I can get. 515 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: I can't really say, like, oh, this was the moment 516 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: I knew for sure, Like him doing that in a 517 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: game to me just showed this kid can push the 518 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 4: ball down the field. He's not afraid, and he's gonna 519 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: throw everything he has into it out there. So but 520 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: we'll see this year, like I don't want to make 521 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: that jump in like I want it this year. 522 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 3: I want this year to be like I don't think 523 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: there was any one moment. I think it was. 524 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: A compilation of a skill set that I saw, like 525 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: him being able to do different things at a high level. 526 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: You know, he hasn't done the big thing, which is like, 527 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 2: you know, lead a comeback and. 528 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: Right, and the end of the Tennessee game was like clos. 529 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: You know, So there's still more to be seen. 530 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: For sure. 531 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: Obviously number one is eliminating those mistakes. But I think 532 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: over the course of the games, I saw a skill 533 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: set that it said, Okay, this can be elite if 534 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: if now the head follows the skill sets there. 535 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly how I would put it. Not to 536 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: play Paul, but like, I don't know if he's the 537 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: franchise quarterback yet. You know, he's got to go out 538 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: there and win games. But you see the flashes of 539 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: him being a franchise talent. You know, Let's see if 540 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: he can be more consistent even today, Like he makes 541 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: some great throws today, he also made some not so 542 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: great throws, So like, if you can, you got to 543 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: package the great ones and kind of put those in 544 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: a bottle and make those more consistent and then you 545 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: have a franchise quarterback. But the Rams game, I would 546 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: say was probably his best game from start to finish, 547 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: where I started to be like, all right, you know, 548 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: some of these throws, some of the reads he was 549 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: making and things like that are are really really high level. 550 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: And I thought that was his best game last year. 551 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: So if there was a moment that I said, Okay, 552 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: this has we have legs here, you know, this could 553 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: have the makings of it, I would say probably against 554 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 3: the Rams, Yeah, I. 555 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: Mean some of the out of pocket stuff. Yeah, you know, 556 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: throws out of pocket on the run. You know, in 557 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: today's NFL, if you're not Tom Brady, to be elite, 558 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: you need to be able to do that. 559 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 560 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: It's just so hard because he has all the talent 561 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: in the world necessary to do it, but so do 562 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 4: a lot of other guys that never put it together. 563 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: So it's you know, there's got to be some magic within. 564 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: And I was just I mean I was looking back 565 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 4: at my notes, you know, bouncing back after that four 566 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: interception one eighty five on a crosser Williams on the sideline. 567 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: I thought that was a pretty nice throw. 568 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: And then a little little backshorlett, a little fade the 569 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: baker against Gonzalez. So he did make some nice throws today. 570 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well Ononda Williams was probably his best throw. Just 571 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: it would look like, as Paul is to say, it 572 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: looked like an NFL play. At the timing and the 573 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: rhythm of it looked really good. The interceptions I think 574 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: are all just a little things where he's he's learning. 575 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: You know, he's learning. All right, that's Christian Gonzalez over there, 576 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: Like I gotta make him respect that I could throw 577 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: the flat here, because otherwise he's just gonna fall off 578 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: the flat and fall underneath the deeper out and kind 579 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: of provide that help over the top because he's staring. 580 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm staring at the receiver down the field, and I'm 581 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: not moving him with my eyes. Like those are things 582 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: that you hope that he just logs in the memory 583 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: bank and now the next time he sees that look 584 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: and the next time he tries to make that throw, 585 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 3: he makes it a little bit differently and you don't 586 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: have Christian Gonzalez. 587 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, it'll be interesting, I think as an exercise, maybe 588 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: we go back and look at his interceptions last year 589 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: and see what happened on these plays and then see 590 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: like if similar things happen in practice this year, Like 591 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: did he learn from that? 592 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 593 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, like the one that today that 594 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 3: was tipped over the middle, like that was that one 595 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: was a lot of what last year was where tip 596 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: balls or like you know, guys going off receivers hands 597 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: and going to to defenders and like things like that. 598 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: And you know, you when you hit a receiver in 599 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: the hands, you want the receiver to catch the ball. 600 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: But that doesn't always mean that it was a great throw. 601 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: You know, it could have been a little bit behind him, 602 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: it could have been a little bit too high. You know, 603 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: things like that that make a make differences when it's 604 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: so fast and it happened so quickly at this level. 605 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: So I would say a lot of them were that, 606 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: And if you can just kind of cut down on 607 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: those ones and you just live with sort of the 608 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: gunslinger ones, which I think are always going to be there. 609 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: That's just his playing styles that he's always going to 610 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: have some gunslinger turnovers. 611 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: Phil's in Coventry. What's up, Phil? 612 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how are we doing today? 613 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: Okay? 614 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 8: I got a couple of questions kind of off the 615 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 8: beating path about the referee cruise and but does the 616 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 8: NFL great them? And do we know which. 617 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 10: Cruise will be on what games at a time, like 618 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 10: not that we. 619 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 6: Got the schedule not that far. 620 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 11: And the other thing is do you guys have like 621 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 11: a favorite crew. 622 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: Well, they do grade them for sure, and in fact, 623 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: you get your playoff assignment based on your regular season grade, 624 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: so there is a reward for having good grades. The 625 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: problem is they get great as crew and as individuals. 626 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: But then what did they stop it? Because what they 627 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: would do in the playoffs is they'd break up the 628 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: crews and they just use the individuals and then team 629 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: them up with people they haven't been working with throughout 630 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: the season. 631 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 3: I don't think they should do that. Yeah, they would 632 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: form all star crews, Yeah, yeah, they do. 633 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: I think they should grade the crew and keep them 634 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: as a crew because you know, you work together all season, 635 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: don't you want that? So but I think, you know, 636 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: they want to reward individuals and and so that's how 637 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: they do it. 638 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: But they do. 639 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: In fact, I don't have a favorite crew, you know. 640 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: I would also say, you know, another big problem is 641 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: for the league is that there's so much money in TV, 642 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: and so these really good officials are retiring from officiating 643 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: and getting hired by Fox or ESPN or whatever to 644 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: be rules experts. And they make a lot more money 645 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: probably doing that, and they don't have to They have 646 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: no pressure and get screamed at guy. Right, they have 647 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: none of the fallback or you know, being an official, 648 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: but they do great crews. You know that. You do 649 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: hear a lot about this crew. You know, throws a 650 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: lot more flags in the average, or there's a lot 651 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: more holding calls when it's this referee group. And I 652 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: do think the teams talk about that kind of stuff. 653 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: And during the week. 654 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: I know Belichick used to school his team because the 655 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: other question was, you know how far in advance do 656 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: you know the creuse? You certainly know the week of 657 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: what crew you're going to have for the game. So 658 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: coaches do, like Belichick's, you know, school. 659 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: Up their team. 660 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: You know this this crew is known for holding, like 661 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: Evan said, or this crew lets you play and test 662 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: them until it proves it otherwise, you know, play that 663 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: way until it proves otherwise in the game. What was 664 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: the crew this year? They would always have I think 665 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: the Thursday night game or one of them, and they 666 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: had they were known for the most penalties, and every week, 667 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: sure enough it was a flag fest. 668 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: I forget which crew it was. Yeah, it's just not hockey. 669 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: Lely is. 670 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: I know his son Sean, I don't think it was. 671 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 4: He does, but it was another guy that, Oh I 672 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: don't have a favorite, Yeah, Craig Rollstad. 673 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 674 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of random rep names. All of 675 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: the names that I can come up all the top 676 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: of my head are now all in TV. That's my 677 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: Jean's territor and like all those guys. But yeah, I 678 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: can believe there you go. That sounds who's Terry McAuley, 679 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: who's he's a rules expert? Now saying. 680 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: Dave's in Florida? What's up David? 681 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 11: Hey, guys are going? So I had I had two things. 682 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 11: The first thing, I just want to touch on Jalen 683 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 11: Polk a little bit. I'm not sure why people are 684 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 11: so like confident that he's gonna be a roster lock 685 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 11: this year because I personally feel like a chain Polk. 686 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 7: Okay, because I personally feel like we anything that he 687 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 7: that Polk excels, that we have another guy on the 688 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 7: roster who does it better, and. 689 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 11: I feel like he's a little bit redundant. I guess 690 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 11: just because he's the second round pick. I don't feel 691 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 11: like that should earn him a roster spot, especially considering 692 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 11: a lot of the the graphs that you see are 693 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 11: are actually expanded just to show how bad he was 694 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 11: last year. I'm just not too confident. 695 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had one more thing, excuse. 696 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 11: That this was just about Drake May. I was just wondering. 697 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 11: I know it's only the first oka or second oka, 698 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 11: but some of these things do matter. And at what 699 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 11: point do you get concerned or at what point do 700 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 11: you consider, well that that was just the first day. Yeah, 701 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 11: I'll take it off. 702 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks to get into Yeah, get into the training camp. 703 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 4: I mean this is a teaching camp, I would say, 704 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: So you got to give him a little bit of 705 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 4: room to grow. 706 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: I understand his feelings on Polk. I would disagree a 707 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: little bit. 708 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 4: I do think that he offers a little bit more 709 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: than some of the other guys in terms of physicality, 710 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: in terms of strong hands. But but I don't think 711 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: he's going to be gifted the roster spot. I think 712 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 4: he's gonna have to earn it. But I do think 713 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 4: that there's enough of a gap in his skill set 714 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 4: that he can contribute and can be a unique player 715 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: within this wide receiver room. I still really like him. 716 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, he was kind of still limited. 717 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: I think ye appeared on the I think at elbow. 718 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 3: Or is it shoulder surgery? Shoulder surgery this offseason, So 719 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: he's still a little bit limited. But I haven't given 720 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: up hope. 721 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I would say if it was the same 722 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: regime from last year, I'd say he'd be more of 723 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: a lock, right because but since it wasn't their pick 724 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: or very Rabel's pick, you. 725 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: Know, they don't know anything. 726 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: They don't own them, they don't you know, they don't 727 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: you know. But he still is a second round pick, 728 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: and Elliott second yeah, and Elliott Wolf is still here. Yeah, 729 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: So I think he's going to get the benefit of 730 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: the doubt until he you know. 731 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: I mean, we all watched him be really productive last 732 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 4: year in camp, and I know that didn't count for anything, 733 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 4: and it was a slow burn once he you know, 734 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: didn't get his back of his feet down and then 735 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: for that touchdown, it seemed from that point things DeVault graveled. 736 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: But I'm really excited to see him. What does it 737 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 4: look like in camp this year? Does he come out 738 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: and have another really productive camp. If that's the case, 739 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 4: then I think that there's something there. You got to continue, 740 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 4: But you're not wrong if he if he looks in 741 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: camp this year, like he looked in the regular season 742 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 4: last year, we didn't really know he was going. 743 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: The route seemed choppy, just nothing was smooth. 744 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, then I go back to what Elliott Will said. 745 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: I think it was at the after of the season 746 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: where they were they hoped for a little bit more development, 747 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: and he was talking about the coaches and probably that 748 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: wide receiver rule. Sure, you know, so I think that 749 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: they're expecting guys like Pope will get better coaching this 750 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: year and at least better direction because that room was 751 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: a mess last year. 752 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: He really was, But he's not a lock. Like, I 753 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: don't think anybody is putting him down as a lock 754 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: because he's what he did last year. He's going to 755 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 3: have to prove that he's worthy of making the roster. 756 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 3: I don't think we're we're gifting away any roster spots 757 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 3: to anybody really, right, you know, the guys drafted this year, 758 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 3: you know, obviously they're not cutting Christian Gonzales like you know, 759 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 3: but like, I don't think that guys like Jalen Polk 760 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: or Javon Baker or even Kendrick Bourne are locks. I 761 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 3: mean i'd say that they have, you know, Polk and 762 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: bourn have good chances to make the team, but I 763 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't say that their locks. 764 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like last year when we went into 765 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 4: it and it was like Taekwon Thort. I mean it 766 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: was a similar felt like a similar logjam at wide 767 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 4: receiver and things have a way of working. 768 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: They should do Ronaldo's in Fall River. Hey Ronaldo, Hey, 769 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: how's go guys? 770 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: Good? 771 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 6: But I just have to questions. 772 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 12: Do you think we should have drafted another quarterback like 773 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 12: in the seventh round to increase the quarterback room competition? 774 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 12: And you blame Drake me and say you're from last 775 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 12: season on your on Mayo for his supporting cast like 776 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 12: offensive line and wide receiver. 777 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: Thank you, Okay, thanks. I don't know. 778 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: I I think they brought in Josh Dobbs and they've 779 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: got the other young guy. 780 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know where you're looking for competition. Yeah, 781 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: I don't. 782 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily hate it, Like I would have been 783 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 4: fine with with spending a late round drop pick on 784 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 4: a guy Woldridge. 785 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: Seems fine out there. 786 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 4: You gets some opportunity reps, but there's just not a 787 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 4: lot of competition, Like you just want Drake to learn 788 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 4: the offense. 789 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: You also got to remember that everything's new. 790 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: So rather than focusing on let's have competition, how about 791 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: let's focus on developing Drake May and and this offense. 792 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 2: Because McDaniels is here, he's it's it's all new, So 793 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: let's just get the guys here. 794 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 3: Let's get Drake May going. 795 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: I'm not We'll worry about competition next year when the 796 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: offense has been settled and we've got a year under 797 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: then we then we can light a fire on the 798 00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: Drake May if we need to do that. 799 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: That's sort of how I feel about it. It's like, 800 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: right now, like what's the point of the competition, right, Yeah, 801 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: he's not. He's the third overall pick in his second season, 802 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 3: so he's it's his job to lose. So if you 803 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: bringing a guy a competition, all that's doing is creating 804 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 3: friction in the locker room, like and in the quarterback 805 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 3: room specifically. So I think that's a big reason why 806 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: Joe Milton's not here is because of all that. So 807 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: you look at. 808 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: Well and plus because the time they need to spend 809 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 2: with Drake this year, it'd be an unfair competition. Yeah, yeah, 810 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: you're not going to be given this guy equal snaps. 811 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: You know, hopefully we never get to this point. But 812 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 3: right you're four, you're five, you know, if he's still 813 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 3: not fully getting it, like, that's when you start to 814 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: look at you know, should we draft a quarterback here 815 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: and maybe put somebody into this room that has some 816 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 3: upside that we think could be a starter down the line. 817 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: But now, I mean, you're it's Drake May's show. You know, 818 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: it's up to him. 819 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and if people are worried that 820 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: on this show, we're going to, like you know, in 821 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: week four say oh, you know, coddle Drake May and 822 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: not call like we see it. Don't worry about that. 823 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: I mean, if he has a bad game, we're going 824 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: to say it. If if a pick is his fault, 825 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: we'll say it. But if if a pick is because 826 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: of receivers rounding out his routes or you know or whatever. 827 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: We'll say that too. So we'll try to be fair 828 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: from what we can tell, you know, but some of 829 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: it is obvious. 830 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 4: I mean it it's but this is the big thing 831 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: for him. This is it cutting down on turnovers. And 832 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 4: that's why, as much as we can say today didn't 833 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 4: mean anything. The one thing you need out of Drake 834 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 4: May this year to cut out of the turnovers. It's 835 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 4: not great to just have four. And you know that's 836 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 4: the talking point. Unfortunately, that's what we got to talk about. 837 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 3: I mean, no, you never, like I said, you never 838 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 3: wanted the quarterback to throw four picks. Like, no matter 839 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: what practice is, whether it's August or it's it's May, 840 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 3: you never want to go out there. And the one 841 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: practice we get to watch and he throws picks, you know, 842 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: four out of ten reps, he's throwing picks Like you 843 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: don't want to see that. 844 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: I mean, if Trevion Henderson was out here dropping the 845 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: ball or you know, that wouldn't be good either. 846 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: You know, you just can't do that. Yeah, just the 847 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 3: way I saw, most of the interceptions were him thinking 848 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 3: through things a little bit too slow, right, and just 849 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 3: kind of trying to grasp this whole offense, in this 850 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 3: whole system. So that's why I'm not, by any means 851 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 3: panicked about it yet because it's day two, Like he 852 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 3: hasn't been in this offense for very long. But I 853 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: had some small sea concerns about it to begin with, 854 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 3: before we even got here about Daniels and all this 855 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: so it's not that it means nothing. You know, it's notable. Yeah, 856 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 3: I mean last year happened like you can't erase it. 857 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: So I know that. You know, the term blank slate 858 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: gets used with a lot of people, including returning players, 859 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 2: but what they did last year matters. So I would 860 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: be surprised if Mike Rabel and his staff haven't looked 861 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 2: at every piece of tape from the players that were 862 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: here last year and how they performed to see, Okay, 863 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: what's going to carry over? 864 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 3: Good and bad? 865 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: You know, what's the good stuff that we hope continues 866 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: and what's the bad stuff we want to eliminate. Yeah, 867 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: get to know every one of these players from their 868 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: tape in the pros. 869 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that'll be the position group coaches that should 870 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 4: know all their guys inside and out. 871 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: And I mean last year, you know, Alex van Pelt 872 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: got roundly criticized for not knowing that Marcus Jones playing 873 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: on offense. I would hope that they will know who 874 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: has who's who's done what on this team. Yeah, you know, 875 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: so all right, some reaction from Forge and Foxborough, some 876 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: emails coming in podcast at pages dot com. Tolerant Okac 877 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: loved the first episode, Mike Rabel has me ready to 878 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: run through a wall. But I was curious how much 879 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: the budget went to the twelve K camera you used 880 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: for interviews. I didn't need to see everyone's individual pores 881 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: and hair follows. I do notice that with four K 882 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: two good, like, even on my TV at home, you 883 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 2: can see everything. Man Like, makeup has become even more important. 884 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 885 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: I think. 886 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 2: Anthony and Seattle watched it on Friday and again on Saturday. 887 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: I didn't plan to watch it twice, but man, it 888 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 2: was good. I was already excited when we hired Vrabel, 889 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 2: but now I feel like I wasn't excited enough. Side note, 890 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: our washing machine broke, so my wife and I went 891 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 2: shopping first Alliance store. 892 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: I walked in and what did you see? 893 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: You guessed it, speed queen. I burst out laughing immediately 894 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: and knew I had to tell you guys. I understand 895 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: now why people have been calling and emailing in to 896 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: tell you things like this, because PFW slash PU is 897 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: like a little community, and you'll be just going through 898 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 2: life and something from the show will come up and 899 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: you'll think, I got to tell the PU friends about this. 900 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 2: That's the idea you get it, Anthony, I love it. 901 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: That's why we do what we do. That's why we 902 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 2: do the newsletter, so we create this community. 903 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 3: So did he buy the Speed Queen on Red Zone. 904 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: Chat in Atlanta? Bravo, The best Pats documentary since the 905 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 2: last three games, Glory. Can't wait for the next episode. 906 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: Thanks for creating it. Now a question, how many of 907 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 2: the eleven draft picks do you see being immediate impact players? 908 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: I say at least six, which is an outstanding draft 909 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 2: in my opinion. Campbell, Henderson, Williams, Swinson, Barrels Ashby. 910 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 3: Well, no offense. But if we're gonna give the kicker 911 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: and long snapper, I agree, they'll be contributors. 912 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: I would hope, so, but like, what if they're not, 913 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 2: that's a waste. 914 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 3: So like, yeah, but they only have one long snapper 915 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 3: on the roster currently, so Ashby's definitely gonna a right play. 916 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 3: But I hear what he's saying. I think I look 917 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 3: those top three guys, and we saw Trevon Henderson. We 918 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 3: didn't get to see him at Rookie Minni Caamp. He 919 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 3: wasn't out there, so this was the first time and 920 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: you see just explosive, you know, compact build like I 921 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't say he's he's not Derrick Henry, right, he's not 922 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 3: a massive player, but he's compact. Like you can see 923 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 3: like how he's uh, he's got a sturdy frame to him. 924 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 3: He's got good, good speed and you can tell all that. 925 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 3: So I was excited about what I saw from him 926 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 3: and Kyle Williams, like these are the types of camps 927 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 3: where those two guys should should shine. You know, this 928 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 3: is a speed camp, like this is all about passing 929 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 3: and space and you know guys that are fast and 930 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 3: have good quickness and all that kind of stuff. So 931 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: you see Kyle Williams flash, You see eft and Chisholm 932 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 3: flash just because he can get open right, he's quick 933 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: and agile. So I thought Travon Henderson looked the part. 934 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 3: I was excited about what I saw. 935 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: You know, going back to forging Fox Sport, it's interesting 936 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: because one of Paul's guys yesterday was saying, you know, 937 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: you know in the documentary you saw that they could 938 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 2: have got a lot of picks if they had chosen 939 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 2: to trade down when it was Henderson's pick. But you know, 940 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 2: they they they you know, they chose to take him, 941 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know about that. How many 942 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: years have we criticized them for not sticking to take 943 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: the guy, and so finally they do that when they 944 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: had a decent, you know, trade on the table and 945 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 2: they picked Henderson. 946 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 3: That's a hopefully that's a good thing. The more you 947 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 3: hear about Henderson and what people around the league thought 948 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 3: of Henderson, the more excited you get about him as 949 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 3: a player. I mean, this is a not only an 950 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 3: explosive player, you know, big play type of running back, 951 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 3: but also a really complete running back coming out of college. 952 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 3: You know, can catch passes, can pass protect, can run 953 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 3: like he can do it all. And a lot of 954 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 3: people thought that he was the second best running back 955 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 3: in the class behind Genty and really were extremely high 956 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 3: on him. So I'm with you, Fred, I'm glad that 957 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 3: they just stood there and took Henderson. I think, you know, 958 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 3: they needed that kind of dynamic playmaking ability. 959 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: Christian Chris with a T I A N right, sin, 960 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 2: echoing the love and appreciation Forge and Fox was receiving. 961 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 2: Really enjoyed at the draft room. We got our guy 962 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 2: stuff in particular was good. Look forward to more of 963 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff. It's been a long time since 964 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: they felt this level of excitement and anxious anticipation in 965 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: such a positive way as we headed into a new season. 966 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: I feel that just being out there, it's like a 967 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 3: little taste of them training can I think I think 968 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: they feel it too. I mean, we talked to Morgan 969 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: Moses about that a little bit, and he's like, yeah, 970 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 3: we We've actually had multiple times where Rabels had to 971 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,720 Speaker 3: been like, by pull us back in because we're going 972 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 3: too hard for this time of year, because everybody's so 973 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 3: anxious and so excited about, you know, this team and 974 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 3: what they've put together. But the one thing from from 975 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 3: Fortune Foxborough from the draft from that I thought was 976 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 3: really cool was I think it was Ryan Cowden who 977 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 3: said to Elliott or maybe it was Rabel, you know, 978 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 3: well do we go running back and then receiver or 979 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 3: did we go receiver then running back? And I just 980 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 3: couldn't help but laugh because like, how many times did 981 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 3: we have those coms? It's like, you know, we're doing 982 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,959 Speaker 3: our like mock drafts right and stuff like that, because 983 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 3: it's exactly the same. But like that's it's was really 984 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 3: cool to see. Okay, yeah, like that's that's how they're 985 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 3: thinking too, is like do we like you know, how 986 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 3: if we wait on the receiver, are we going to 987 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: get our guy or are we not? You know? And 988 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 3: it ended up being Kyle Williams and Henderson, which I 989 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 3: think is what they were kind of open for. 990 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 2: So David Maine. When Mayo was fired at the end 991 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 2: of the season, initially I was relieved. However, my second 992 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: reaction was, damn no Hard Knocks this year. But Forge 993 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 2: and Foxboro was even better than Hard Knocks. Great work 994 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 2: by all involved. Two questions, how many episodes are you doing? 995 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 2: We're definitely going to do a second episode. It'll be 996 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 2: coming out. I don't want to give out when yet, 997 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 2: but they'll definitely be at least another episode, and we 998 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: hope more. As long as Mike Rabel and staff allow 999 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: us access, we'll keep pumping out the content. 1000 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: So you know, hopefully we're doing it right. 1001 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: Up to you. 1002 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully we're doing one. 1003 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 4: Behind the scenes of joint practices with the commanders here 1004 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 4: and going to Minnesota. Yeah, you know, the little nuggets 1005 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 4: there they've abel revealed, but that to me is the 1006 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 4: best stuff behind the scenes of like this is all 1007 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 4: teaching and slow paced in the off season, which I like. 1008 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 4: I think doing this job as I have now you 1009 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 4: go from that on season mode in season mode too. 1010 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 3: Then all right, and I get to. 1011 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 4: Watch some prospects and next week we get to watch 1012 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 4: an OT practice and it's a little slower. But once 1013 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 4: the training camp starts and things start happening, injuries and competition, 1014 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 4: and you know, that's when it gets really serious. I 1015 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 4: think those episodes, if we're able to to them. 1016 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 3: Will be amazing. 1017 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: Jeff and Canada really enjoyed it. He says, I'd like 1018 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 2: to get it on record early that we have no 1019 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 2: clue if Drake May is a franchise quarterback yet it's 1020 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 2: still completely undetermined. However, the media team and most fans 1021 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 2: have declared it, and I worry that is undue pressure. 1022 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 3: I think that's unfair. I do. I don't think a 1023 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 3: lot of people, maybe fans, but fans are allowed to 1024 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 3: be excited, and that's that's what fandom's all about. You're 1025 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 3: defending your guy or excited about your guy. I don't 1026 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 3: feel like on this show we've we've crowned him yet 1027 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: as the franchise quarterback. 1028 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't think so either, But remember he was the 1029 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: third overall pick. 1030 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like he'd better be yeah right, it's gonna be 1031 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 3: disappointing if he's Yeah, I mean yes, is that pressure. 1032 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 2: It absolutely is, and it's pressure that he's gonna have 1033 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 2: to bear. But we're all counting on him to be 1034 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 2: the franchise quarterback. This isn't a fifth round pick that 1035 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,479 Speaker 2: we're hoping. You know, this was the third overall pick 1036 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 2: and many people thought he was you know, coming out, 1037 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 2: was as good as Jaden Daniels. 1038 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 4: So I mean, well, I mean even look at like 1039 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 4: I just for me, I want to see it happen 1040 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 4: and not like stuff it into a box and make 1041 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 4: like a moment from last season that wasn't all that 1042 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 4: great as like, well, that's when I knew, like, you 1043 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 4: don't you want to let Drake earn that moment and 1044 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 4: Paul let's see abou Paul is in there as he 1045 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 4: could talk about bloods soe. But I'm just remembering, you know, 1046 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 4: him going toe to toe with the Vikings at the 1047 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 4: end of his second season, opening against Miami in his 1048 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 4: third season where you know, they didn't even make the 1049 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 4: playoffs at you know, so there was like a there 1050 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 4: was It wasn't just he made that big game and 1051 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 4: now he's there and now he's awesome and that you know, 1052 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 4: it's it's it's a bumpy roll. 1053 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's going to put the most pressure 1054 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 2: on Drake May this year. It's Jade and Daniels. It's 1055 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: what he did coming out his first year to absolutely 1056 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 2: flip the Commander's season from one to another, from being 1057 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,959 Speaker 2: where we were to then playoff teams. You know, that's 1058 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 2: how people, well the Commanders did it. 1059 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of people look at the Patriots 1060 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 4: off season this season and compare it to similar things 1061 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 4: that the Commanders did last year. 1062 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're also going to get Jaden Daniels. 1063 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 4: Right here in the building in the second week of August, 1064 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 4: so you know that'll that'll spur some talk as well. 1065 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 3: But the blood Cell, like bringing up bloodste I think 1066 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 3: is good because you fan that are that are on 1067 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 3: the younger side of things, Like we know Tom Brady 1068 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 3: and no one's ever going to be Tom Brady again, right, 1069 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 3: like we all can know expectations easily say that, and 1070 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 3: just no one's gonna be as good as him ever, 1071 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 3: And so like the one quarterback that you know, I 1072 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 3: really know as like the starting quarterback of the Patriots 1073 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 3: is Brady. But the more realistic path for Drake May, 1074 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 3: in terms of ceiling and stuff like that, is probably 1075 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 3: more closer to Blood sell right, who was a good 1076 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 3: quarterback but wasn't the greatest quarterback of all time. And 1077 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: I think that somewhere in those expectations we have to 1078 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 3: find a middle ground. Like Drake May could be a 1079 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 3: really good quarterback for you know, five to ten years, 1080 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 3: like Drew Bledsoe was, but that doesn't make him, you 1081 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 3: know that he's not gonna be Tom Brady, right, So 1082 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 3: that's what I'm hoping for. Can he you know, franchise 1083 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 3: quarterbacks thrown around a lot? Like, I just want him 1084 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback for the Patriots for a 1085 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 3: long time and have us not question who the quarterback is. 1086 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 3: Does that mean he's a franchise quarterback or an elite quarterback? 1087 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think there's a lot of 1088 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 3: guys that are like that. Like I would say, you know, 1089 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is a franchise quarterback. The Chargers haven't won 1090 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 3: anything yet, r right, Yeah, you know, like Trevor Lawrence, 1091 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 3: Fred's guy I think is a really good quarterback. They 1092 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 3: haven't won anything, right, you know, So that that's how 1093 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 3: the career goes for a lot of dudes that can 1094 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 3: play that are really good. You know, Josh Allen's a 1095 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 3: really good he still hasn't won anything, so like it 1096 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 3: might not be Yeah, I mean, it's just all that. 1097 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 2: But I think I think after I don't know how 1098 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 2: many how many years has Alan been in the leaf 1099 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 2: six years now, yeah, so I think after six years, 1100 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 2: if we have done what the Bills have done, we'd 1101 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 2: be like, Okay, we did get our guy. 1102 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just have to know we got to get 1103 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 3: over the hump, right, the right, But that's the but 1104 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 3: that's like the ceiling. Like that's like the that's it 1105 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 3: working out as much as it possibly could. Like Josh 1106 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 3: Allen's the MVP of the league, right, so like that 1107 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 3: that's that's the ceiling. And he still hasn't won a 1108 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 3: super Bowl. So like you know, Lamar Jackson still hasn't 1109 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl. So I just think that there's 1110 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 3: you know, we have to also adjust our expectations of 1111 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 3: what Drake may being the franchise quarterback really is going 1112 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 3: to look like I you know, I hear what you're saying. 1113 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 3: I love. I love having some community the quarterback be great. 1114 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 3: I'd also listen some community with the scheme. 1115 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 4: Now here we are in whatever year whatever, since Josh left, 1116 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 4: and it's I'm just I'm getting I'm getting tired of 1117 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 4: blaming it on the scheme. 1118 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: He's learning the scheme. 1119 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 4: How's the scheme different? All the questions are about the 1120 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 4: scheme the scheme. Like today I was ready to just 1121 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 4: ask and be like, look, you've been in the NFL 1122 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 4: a long time, played here a bunch of difference. 1123 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 3: Does it matter? Does it really matter? 1124 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 4: Like I know it's hard, you got to learn it 1125 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 4: and all that, but like we put the whole world 1126 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 4: on like the scheme change, and I just I wonder 1127 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 4: in their heart of heart, like I mean, I played 1128 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 4: hockey completely different, but just you know, like we played Zonerman, 1129 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 4: it didn't really matter, you know. So I know those 1130 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 4: sports aren't different, and those are completely Probably not a 1131 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 4: great metaphor to make, but still it's like, as a player, 1132 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 4: you're like, you guys spend so much time talking about this, 1133 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, we have to learn it. 1134 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 2: But no, I know it sounds simple, but if you've 1135 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 2: got a good offensive line, the scheme becomes easy, right, you. 1136 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 3: Can execute it. 1137 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 2: Because you can execute it, you know, if you can't 1138 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 2: execute the scheme, it doesn't matter what the scheme is. 1139 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm just worried about the pressure on the quarterback in 1140 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 3: this particular offense, and at what point do maybe they 1141 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 3: take a little bit off of his plate and maybe 1142 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 3: they put it, you know, on Bradberry or you know, 1143 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 3: a veteran center in the league that started a lot 1144 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 3: of games or something like that. Because again, it's one day, 1145 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: but this is what I was a little bit concerned 1146 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 3: about that it would look like early on that there 1147 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 3: would be what looked like, you know, Pop Douglas said 1148 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 3: after practice. The first one of the first picks he 1149 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 3: threw to Gonzalez, the first one, you know, is a 1150 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 3: they rotated the coverage. They rolled the coverage, and so 1151 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 3: Gonzales started deep and then he rotated into the flat 1152 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 3: and you know, Drake didn't see him coming down in 1153 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,760 Speaker 3: the flat and Gonzalez jumped the route. Like those types 1154 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 3: of things to me is just like mental like you're 1155 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 3: looking through every there's ya. I gotta set the mic 1156 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 3: point and I got to move the protection, and now 1157 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 3: I got to make sure this guy's in the right 1158 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 3: place and then it's all of the maestro stuff at 1159 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. And I don't know if that's him, Like, 1160 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,919 Speaker 3: I don't know yet if Drake May is that kind 1161 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 3: of quarterback, Like he might be more of like, let's 1162 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 3: just snap the ball and I'm just gonna play right 1163 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 3: because he's got he's so physically talented that that might 1164 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 3: be more of what he's how he's programmed and how 1165 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 3: he's you know, wired, is just to just go out 1166 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 3: there and play ball, whereas this scheme can be very 1167 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 3: very intricate, and if I had anything to be like, 1168 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 3: come away from this practice, it's not that he's through 1169 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 3: four picks or anything like that. 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Exclusions apply. 1223 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 3: I'm just curious about your early impressions of rate May 1224 00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 3: and how he's been adapting to, you know, learning inuitial Well. 1225 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 10: I think everybody's worked extremely hard, including Drake, uh, to 1226 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 10: to pick up what we want to do offensively and defensively, 1227 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 10: and now that has to start to translate onto the 1228 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 10: practice field in a spring setting without pads, and you know, 1229 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 10: I think that it's Uh, we're off to a good start. 1230 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: I think we had a positive day. 1231 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,359 Speaker 10: We're able to mix some speed stuff in and some 1232 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 10: competitive stuff to a point, Uh, kept guys off the ground, 1233 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 10: got a bunch of looks and bunch of reps. So 1234 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 10: I think we're off to a good start, and you know, 1235 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 10: Drake's a part. 1236 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 3: Of that as part of the stage. 1237 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,439 Speaker 2: Mike, what are the things that you look for from 1238 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 2: your players to get better as they go about this 1239 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 2: stage of the process. 1240 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that that's probably an interesting question just 1241 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 10: to dynamic through the spring. Is you know the offensive line. 1242 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 10: I think you can maybe evaluate some pass protection or 1243 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 10: somewhat footwork, but it's hard to evaluate the run game. 1244 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 10: Defensive line, it's a difficult time of year for them. 1245 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 10: You know, they're they're they're wired a certain way and 1246 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 10: they want to do things that affect a quarterback and 1247 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 10: create a new line of scrimmage and. 1248 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: You have to pull them back to a sense. 1249 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 10: This is a this is a passing camp, this is 1250 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 10: a non contact camp and time of year. But I 1251 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 10: think the receivers and the dbs can certainly look to 1252 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,959 Speaker 10: to mirror and shadow and react and you know, still 1253 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 10: go make plays on the football and try to stay up. 1254 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 10: It's hard to you know, maybe the running backs you 1255 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 10: can evaluate are they picking up the right person and 1256 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 10: protection not necessarily sure if they're going to be able. 1257 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 1: To block them, but are they getting the right guy? Uh? 1258 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 10: Quarterbacks, operation, the urgency in which we practice are things 1259 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 10: that are important. Our tempo, the way that we finish plays, 1260 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 10: our effort, and you continue to build the identity. Are 1261 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 10: we taking care of the football when we're when we're 1262 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 10: running with it in the open field? 1263 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: Things like that. 1264 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,959 Speaker 10: When you mentioned not wanting to take guys to the ground, 1265 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 10: how do you balance It's not that I would love 1266 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 10: to take guys. 1267 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 1: Uh, That's okay. 1268 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 10: I'm joking, but these are the rules that everybody's just 1269 00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 10: come to live by in the National Football League, and 1270 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 10: that's that's great. It's just explain it to the players 1271 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 10: what it is that we have to do and what 1272 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 10: we have to try to get accomplished. 1273 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 1: So go ahead and finish your question. 1274 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 4: But how do you accomplish the physicality that you want 1275 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 4: at this stage? 1276 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 10: I'll still making sure that I don't think that you can. 1277 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 10: I don't I think that you could focus on pad level. 1278 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 10: You can focus on hand placement, but that physicality is 1279 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 10: not something that's going to be identified over the course 1280 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 10: of the next four weeks. 1281 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 15: With the understanding that this is obviously a non contact camping, 1282 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 15: we're talking about not being able to get a good 1283 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 15: sense of where maybe running backs are from a physical standpoint, 1284 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 15: and you just talked about where maybe Rmandri is at 1285 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 15: this stage. I know he's going through a personal thing, 1286 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 15: but maybe the overall value that he has did this franchise. 1287 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: We're extremely excited to. 1288 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 10: Have him with us, have been in constant communication with 1289 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 10: him and obviously our thoughts and prayers or with him 1290 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 10: and his family as they heal and they grieve, and 1291 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 10: you don't want to be a part of that to 1292 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 10: help him and get to know him. And I'd met 1293 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 10: him early on and then he went back and now 1294 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 10: those conversations have just been over the telephone. So when 1295 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 10: you start to evaluate just this season and you watch 1296 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 10: the effort and that he played with when he didn't 1297 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 10: have the football, he played extremely fast. 1298 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: Without the football. 1299 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 10: His ability to step up and protect is taking care 1300 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 10: of a teammate, is protecting the guy with the ball. 1301 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 10: He did that on numerous occasions. He always saw him 1302 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 10: downfield when he didn't. 1303 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: Have the ball. You know. 1304 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 10: So he's going to be a large part of, you know, 1305 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 10: what we do, and it'll just have to you know, 1306 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,479 Speaker 10: determine where he's at when when he's back here. 1307 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 4: What constitutes a good day for you at OTA is 1308 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 4: like what would make you happy at the end of 1309 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 4: them today. 1310 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 10: You know, again, I'm going to set myself up from 1311 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 10: failure because you're going to look and read off every single. 1312 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: One I say here, that that we're in and. 1313 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 10: Out of the huddle, that there's clean substitution, that there's communication. 1314 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 10: You hear the defense making checks when somebody on the 1315 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 10: offense moves or motions. There there's coordination and that the 1316 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 10: offense is moving with urgency and at the play clock 1317 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 10: isn't sitting at zero for four seconds, and all the 1318 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 10: operational things, and then obviously there's got to be a 1319 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 10: level of execution when we're in the speed and then 1320 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 10: when we get to the jog through, can we practice 1321 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 10: at a tempo that's less than one hundred percent and 1322 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 10: still get something out of it? Mike, what does the 1323 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 10: competition truly start from traditional standpoint for guys trying to respots. 1324 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Well, I think that it already has. I hope that 1325 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 1: it already has their life's of competition. 1326 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 10: Everything we do every day, what we're trying to improve, 1327 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 10: and we're trying to do better than the next person. 1328 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 10: But whether that's a competitiveness to know what to do, 1329 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 10: to be able to play more than one position, to 1330 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 10: go extra reps when somebody's down, to take advantage of 1331 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 10: opportunities of young guys, you know, popping in their third group. 1332 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 10: You know, they do a nice job, then they get elevated, 1333 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 10: they get some reps with the twos and see how 1334 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 10: they do with those opportunities. So I think that there's 1335 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 10: always a level of competition to what we do. It 1336 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 10: just may not be as physical as what it would 1337 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 10: be in training camp. 1338 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 15: Like related to that question, how much evaluation is going 1339 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 15: on for the coaching staff right now versus the installation 1340 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 15: of the teaching that obviously you're doing the spring. 1341 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 10: Well, there's certain things you have to maybe change the 1342 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 10: way that you evaluate. You know, do they know their assignment, 1343 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 10: can they adjust? Do they make you know, the same 1344 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 10: mistake over and over? Then there's a level of you know, 1345 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 10: physical ability that we have to be able to evaluate. 1346 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 10: So I would say that there's still an evaluation even 1347 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 10: though we don't have pads on. 1348 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 5: There's been a lot of talk about the culture you're 1349 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 5: building and. 1350 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 14: All that just from early days of the team kind 1351 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 14: of all being together. What are you noticing just from 1352 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 14: them all coming together. 1353 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 10: I think there's an excitement, there's an energy. I think 1354 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 10: there's a willingness of players that walk in and want 1355 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 10: to improve and want to get to know the new 1356 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 10: players and the ones that they're familiar with from last 1357 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 10: year and the coaches and everything else. So we're just 1358 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 10: constantly trying to build that each and every day. 1359 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 7: And we know that. 1360 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 14: Stefan Diggs has been you know, dealing with last year's 1361 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 14: in anyone else that we shouldn't expect to see based 1362 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 14: on coming. 1363 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: Back and sending from last year. 1364 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 10: There'll be a group of guys that will be modified 1365 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 10: today or won't be doing stuff. So, I mean, it's 1366 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 10: a long list. I'm not going to go through it, 1367 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 10: but there'll be a few guys. They'll be doing some 1368 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 10: individual they'll be doing some return to play, may do 1369 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 10: some jog through stuff at the end. 1370 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 16: Like I know that, Like, how would you describe the 1371 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 16: jump for running back and pass protection from the college 1372 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 16: game to the NFL helpport? And are these practices for 1373 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 16: Trayveon in particular as young beck, But. 1374 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: These are mental reps. 1375 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 10: These are seeing things that speed until you know it's 1376 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 10: full speed to contact is really what we say. So 1377 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 10: we want the blitzer to go, you know, as fast 1378 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 10: as he would and disguise the way he would and 1379 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 10: try to time it up the way that he would, 1380 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 10: and then once he gets to the player that's blocking him, 1381 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 10: that that we're going to ask them to stop and 1382 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 10: then you know, be ready to go and sprint out 1383 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 10: of the stack and get his you know, finish his 1384 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 10: play that way. So they're they're good because there's just 1385 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 10: there's moving parts, there's other bodies. 1386 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: It's not just a walk through pace. 1387 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 10: So I think the tempo is going to allow them 1388 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 10: to identify the right person to protect and to block, 1389 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 10: and then we'll see you in training camp. Physically they'll 1390 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 10: be able to do it, which by all counts, I 1391 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 10: think that they will. 1392 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 4: Mike, I know fans get excited about it when the 1393 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 4: NFL schedule comes out. 1394 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 3: How do you look at that from as a head coach? 1395 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 10: I just make sure that we've got seventeen games, nine 1396 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 10: of them are at home this year and eight of 1397 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 10: them are on the road, and then we go from there. 1398 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 10: We're so far from looking at opponents right now at 1399 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 10: this point in the game. We're just really trying to 1400 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 10: focus on ourselves, which you know, individual improvement, continue to 1401 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 10: build the identity that we try to talk about, and 1402 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 10: that's where my focus is today. 1403 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Finalized the joy practices with the Commanders and Bikings, yep. 1404 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 10: I think that the for sure that the Washington Commanders 1405 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 10: will come here and then they'll play us, and then 1406 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 10: we are excited to go to Minnesota. It's a good 1407 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 10: setup that they have allows for great work. Kevin's got 1408 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 10: a you know, the Vikings have an excellent football team 1409 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 10: and have worked with them before, so excited to go 1410 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 10: back up there. Do you see the young player need 1411 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 10: to see the field consistently or first team grabs consistently 1412 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 10: to become the effective leader in your love, I think 1413 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 10: that any player that comes here with a great attitude, 1414 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 10: that knows what to do UH and plays a style 1415 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,120 Speaker 10: and with the demeanor that we expect, that does things 1416 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 10: the right way, that makes great decisions, what we'll have 1417 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 10: an ability to lead uh someone or have some sort 1418 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 10: of UH leadership qualities, whether that's with the third group, 1419 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 10: with the. 1420 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: Second group, or with the first group. 1421 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 10: But I don't think that a young player has to 1422 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 10: be on a starting unit to be considered somewhat of 1423 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 10: a leaders. 1424 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 4: At times then over analyzed lineups at this point the season, 1425 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 4: that's fair philosophy. 1426 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 1: When it comes to the depth chart, is it better 1427 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 1: ins and then young. 1428 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 10: Guys earn it or it's just kind of what we 1429 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 10: put together and somebody's got to go with eleven. 1430 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 1: It's to be very fluid. 1431 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 10: You'll see that a lot of people are getting a 1432 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 10: lot of different reps and a lot of different groupings, 1433 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 10: and wide receivers will rotate out of there, and some 1434 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 10: lineman will play a position and then we'll see if 1435 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 10: they can move over and play another position. 1436 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 1: So again, you have a job to do. We have 1437 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 1: a job to do. 1438 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,439 Speaker 10: We're going to try to move guys around and put 1439 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 10: eleven out there every play. 1440 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 15: No one will even told us a story about how 1441 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 15: do you enjoy getting called out by you? 1442 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 10: That's first of all, that's not being called out by me. 1443 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 10: That was just an encouragement. No, it was, uh, you know, 1444 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 10: if you have the ability to do something, I think 1445 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:40,439 Speaker 10: you should try to maximize that ability. And I think 1446 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 10: it sends a great message to the team where we're 1447 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 10: going to need our best players to play good every 1448 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 10: week for us to win. And that's just another example of, 1449 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 10: you know, the leadership and when one guy I found 1450 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 10: when one guy runs fast and another guys tend to 1451 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 10: run fast, and then the next you know, the more 1452 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 10: and more you you see, you got a bunch of 1453 01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 10: guys trying to push each other and compete. 1454 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 3: That's what we're trying to do with specifically, what are 1455 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 3: you looking forcus, it's a very full room at the moment. 1456 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 3: What are you looking for specifically with them? 1457 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 1: In these early days well as far. 1458 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 10: I think that when you say things like it's a 1459 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 10: full room, I would say that thirty one other teams, 1460 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 10: that's okay with thirty one other teams are going to 1461 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 10: have eleven or twelve wide receivers at this point in time, 1462 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 10: So everybody's room is full. 1463 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: There's eleven or twelve. 1464 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 10: I would say that the players that aren't available need 1465 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 10: to make sure that they're doing everything they can to 1466 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 10: stay up mentally and continue. 1467 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: To work hard to get back. 1468 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 10: The young players that are coming onto this roster have 1469 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 10: to earn a role, and the ones that are returning 1470 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 10: have a clean slate to go and compete, and whether 1471 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 10: that's a carryover position from last. 1472 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Year or a new position. 1473 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 10: So we're very early on in the process, but we 1474 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 10: need that group to compete and have a willingness to 1475 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 10: go out there and help the quarterback through this spring process. 1476 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, and now great moments in. 1477 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: History. 1478 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 17: I miss Gardis smell. That's one of the things that's 1479 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 17: about twenty twelve. Way, Yeah, GARTI smells really good. Paul, 1480 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 17: back me up on this. 1481 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 3: What are you a dog? He smells wonderful. There's around 1482 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 3: sniffing people. 1483 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 17: Thank you, Paul. 1484 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 3: Sound like a fresh summer day tomorrow show opening unfolding 1485 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 3: right before our eyes. 1486 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 17: He smells great. I miss it. 1487 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 3: Okay, it is what it is. You know what was 1488 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 3: his cologne of choice? You know you ever have? 1489 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: He smells so good. 1490 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 3: He's it's like product. 1491 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 17: He's just like if I told you, I'd have to 1492 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 17: kill you because everyone knows how good he smells. I 1493 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 17: don't miss Gardi as much as I missed the smell of. 1494 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 3: Oh did Yeah? We could bottle that g That's another 1495 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 3: great moment from. 1496 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered Podcasts at Patriots 1497 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 2: dot com is the way to email us eight five 1498 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 2: five Pats five hundred is the way to call us 1499 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 2: Dan and Virginia and Michigan emails. He says, I'm not 1500 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 2: too worried about May having some issues on the second 1501 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 2: day of OTAs. Didn't the defense always have an edge 1502 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 2: early in the off season even when Brady was here? 1503 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 2: Also speaking of Mike Giardi, just according to Dan, he's 1504 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,640 Speaker 2: apparently running a school for sports journalism. 1505 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 3: Do you know this Trump's school? 1506 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 1: Now? 1507 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. 1508 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I know. 1509 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 3: Chris Catillo does it. The Red Sox be writer, he 1510 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 3: does one so is it online thing that you signed 1511 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 3: up a seminar. It's like a webinar and it's it's 1512 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 3: pretty cool. I mean I didn't have to do it. 1513 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 2: Okay here, but do you know if his course includes 1514 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,640 Speaker 2: the correct pronunciation of a slip disc and how to 1515 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 2: be the best smelling man in England sports journalism, at 1516 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 2: least according to Megan O'Brien, which we just heard. 1517 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 3: You know, Brian had some takes. I can't play that. 1518 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 2: But so he's running a school for journalists. 1519 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 3: That's a Paul didn't signed me up for it. 1520 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so is it actually accredited? Do you get No, 1521 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1522 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. Isn't like an Adobe class now, I 1523 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe it's part of just the University of 1524 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 3: Gardi he's starting in college. But yeah, I think Chris 1525 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 3: does one, like I said, And I know that people 1526 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 3: he sometimes has guests like speakers, you know that are 1527 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 3: people that are currently working on beats and stuff like that. 1528 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 3: And I think people get a lot out of it. 1529 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1530 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna have to make fun of him. 1531 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,599 Speaker 2: And I see him Jardi University. 1532 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 3: Guy to make some money. 1533 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,720 Speaker 2: Maybe they can have graduation on the field here like 1534 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 2: Bridgewater State, right, you. 1535 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 3: Know right, Bill wasn't here last week for that was he. 1536 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 2: No, But I was wondering if she was the commencement speaker, 1537 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 2: but I guess not. Josh wrights In. Overall, the production 1538 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 2: of Forge and Foxborough was awesome, really loved it. That said, 1539 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 2: the draft room scenes weren't quite what I expected. It 1540 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,799 Speaker 2: came across like the entire operation flowed strictly through Rabel, 1541 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 2: Wolf and Cowden. I was surprised at how little process 1542 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 2: or structure was shown behind the decisions. I figured to 1543 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 2: be more automation or a system driven strategy involved, rather 1544 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 2: than Elliott just going bee boop. I like this trade offer. 1545 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 4: I uh, well, I think that they are kind of 1546 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,879 Speaker 4: the guys making the decision. I understand the stuff he wants, 1547 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 4: of breaking down the prospects and that kind of stuff. 1548 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 4: But that to me was one of the interesting takeaways 1549 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,719 Speaker 4: that I thought maybe they'd talk on Paul shows about. 1550 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 4: It's just the dynamic between Cowden and Wolf and Vrabel 1551 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 4: and you see how they discuss certain ideas and picks, 1552 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,800 Speaker 4: and you know, you just you see how that relationship 1553 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,719 Speaker 4: between those three guys is developing. 1554 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 2: That was a really interesting part of it to me also, 1555 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 2: that were like forty people in the room with laptops, 1556 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 2: but none seemed actively involved. Cam Williams's only moment was basically, 1557 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,559 Speaker 2: oh this is an EP here's elliott. I think there 1558 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 2: was room to show more of the decision making process 1559 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 2: without revealing too much of how the sausage gets made, 1560 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,800 Speaker 2: just enough to give fans a sense of the complexity 1561 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 2: behind the scenes. 1562 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1563 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, fair enough what he's saying, But all 1564 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 2: that work has done before draft day. I mean, you know, 1565 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 2: like they say, the Hayes in the barn once the 1566 01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 2: draft comes. And one thing you didn't see is the 1567 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 2: boards around the room, because that's where some of the 1568 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,879 Speaker 2: detail is, where that you know, your board is stacked 1569 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 2: and you can see, okay, who's left, how of those 1570 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 2: people that are left? 1571 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,840 Speaker 3: Who are the guys that you like? You know? 1572 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 2: So, yeah, we didn't get to see all of that 1573 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 2: and the stuff leading up to the draft, where you know, 1574 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 2: scouts are really you know, making the case for their guys, 1575 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,679 Speaker 2: which I'm sure must happen. 1576 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I thought, I thought maybe a little 1577 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 4: constructive criticism for the now Denver Broncos came Winnams, But 1578 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 4: I thought like his phone cadence was off, like these 1579 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 4: draft picks are dying to get the bat phone to 1580 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 4: ring right, Like they all have the special phone and 1581 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 4: they'd be like hello, and he'd be like hello, yeah, Hey, 1582 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 4: how are you, Kyle? 1583 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,640 Speaker 3: How are you? The guys are dying to know what 1584 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 3: team's calling. I'm like, He's like, it's came Wins from 1585 01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:58,759 Speaker 3: the Patriots. 1586 01:11:58,800 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 17: Like there you go. 1587 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 3: You gotta get right to it. You gotta be like, 1588 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 3: cam it's the Patriots, we're taking you. Here's Ellie Wolf. 1589 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 3: I get right well. 1590 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 2: Elliott's first words to Will Campbell's what'd you have for dinner? 1591 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 3: I like, the kid is like about to combust. They're stress. 1592 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 3: Was crying on stage, how are you? What's going on? Nothing? No, 1593 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 3: we're just never drafted. You, by the way, ready to go? 1594 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,639 Speaker 3: Are you ready to go? Did you mention from today? 1595 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 3: The Will Campbell and Morgan Moses, those two are and always. 1596 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 2: Just was just watching that when he told me that, 1597 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 2: I said, I need a moment I need. 1598 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,839 Speaker 3: Morgan Moses was holding court after practice with it started 1599 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 3: just with him and Will Campbell and Will Campbell's like 1600 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 3: you people came over. Yeah. Will Campbell's like in his 1601 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 3: past set, Morgan Moses is acting like the pass rusher, 1602 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 3: and Campbell's like, you know, talking true things. And then 1603 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,799 Speaker 3: Kate and Wallace came over and kan Wallace just standing 1604 01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 3: there watching Morgan Moses listening, and then Marcus Marcus Bryant 1605 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 3: their seventh round pick at tackle, he starts to come 1606 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 3: on and then all of them are kind of like 1607 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 3: their tackles, you know, like he's throwing. 1608 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 2: He's feeding the mass with you know, two loaves of 1609 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 2: bread and a fish. 1610 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 3: He's got this party in the red seat right, He's 1611 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 3: like throwing his long arm and he's trying to teach 1612 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 3: him and he's doing this and Trey Jacobs was over 1613 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,559 Speaker 3: there for a minute, and but him and Will Campbell 1614 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,719 Speaker 3: were out there for a solid ten to fifteen minutes 1615 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 3: after practice, gone through a drill, you know, going through 1616 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 3: the motions of you know, past protection and things like that. 1617 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,559 Speaker 3: But we talked to Morian Moses about it afterwards and 1618 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 3: he's like, I know my role, like I you know 1619 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 3: that that's a big part of why you know, I'm 1620 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 3: still in the league and why I'm here. 1621 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: He's already paid for himself that that one session. 1622 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I totally believe it we happened. Did we 1623 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 3: happen to have any cameras? 1624 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 2: Though? 1625 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 3: You know, I saw Cassidy she wasn't getting in. 1626 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 2: There, but she you think we had sound Maybe I 1627 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 2: don't know. We got to get that out of sound we. 1628 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,519 Speaker 3: Saw we had. Adler was taking pictures of it. I 1629 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,320 Speaker 3: know that I didn't. I'm sure we have. 1630 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 4: Video of Cassidy shooting it, but I. 1631 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 3: Okay, baby, all right. Well, I was so impressed with 1632 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 3: Morgan when he came in here and said, oh, yeah, 1633 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 3: well that's what that's why I am and you I know, 1634 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 3: and then you know the potential. 1635 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,760 Speaker 4: He is what needs to be said and has so 1636 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 4: much experience and every word that that guy says. 1637 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 3: I just I was hanging yeah right, tell me more 1638 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,639 Speaker 3: and more than yeah be my dad. And he talked 1639 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,880 Speaker 3: about you know, he played with Trent Williams, he played 1640 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 3: with Tyron Smith last year with the Jets. So he's like, look, 1641 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 3: I've seen left tackles like I've seen it at the 1642 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:41,559 Speaker 3: highest levels. 1643 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,599 Speaker 4: It is like your like to your excitement, like we've 1644 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 4: been so desperate for tackles, and then to see like 1645 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 4: an experienced NFL tackle gathering around the kids and be like, 1646 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 4: here's how it's done, children. 1647 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,679 Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't. It's not Yoda because he's so big. 1648 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 2: So it's like it's like it's that type of wisdom, 1649 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,719 Speaker 2: that that sage wisdom. 1650 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 3: Sandolph may do or do not, trim beard. 1651 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,759 Speaker 2: There is no try Yeah, uh, teas in Virginia. 1652 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 3: What's up, tea? 1653 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 11: And I've got some real quick and then pick it off. 1654 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 9: I'm not sure if you touched on it yet, but what's. 1655 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 8: Your thoughts on we supposed to change the playoffs four minutes. 1656 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 1: And do you think. 1657 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 3: I like it? Let's let's go. You know there's no receding. 1658 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,439 Speaker 3: Is that correct? How how would it go? I didn't. Yeah, yeah, 1659 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,639 Speaker 3: they received they would they would receive the second round, 1660 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,200 Speaker 3: I believe, but it wouldn't be the top four divisions. 1661 01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 3: So you still make the playoffs by winning your division, 1662 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 3: but it would be seated by the records by Yeah, 1663 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 3: I think that. I think that makes sense. 1664 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,760 Speaker 2: So there's no guarantee of a home playoff win if 1665 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,599 Speaker 2: you win your division. 1666 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's it's you want the best 1667 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,160 Speaker 4: teams to have the advantage, teams that earn in not 1668 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,839 Speaker 4: just because oh you happen to be in the AFC 1669 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 4: South and you want this year and you were you know, 1670 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 4: seven and ten or whatever. 1671 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, obviously the Lions in Minnesota last year. The 1672 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,640 Speaker 3: reason why this is happening, and I get it, I 1673 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 3: mean I the one thing I would say is like, 1674 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 3: it's still kind of cool that division football matters in 1675 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,600 Speaker 3: the NFL because all the other leagues, I mean, I 1676 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 3: guess hockey it kind of matters again now like with 1677 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 3: the the different like subconferences that they have. But like, 1678 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 3: I don't want it to become basketball where like there's 1679 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 3: no divisions, right Like I like it. So you like 1680 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 3: the rivalry. I like the rivalries. I like that you 1681 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 3: you know, you play everybody twice a year. I think 1682 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 3: that is still good and has like value. And if 1683 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 3: you're going to make the schedule more importantly, like if 1684 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 3: the schedule is going to be structured this way, then 1685 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 3: winning the division has to mean something like you can't 1686 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,680 Speaker 3: play everybody within your division twice a year, and then 1687 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 3: it you're throwing out anything with the division, right Like, 1688 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 3: if you're going to structure the schedule, otherwise you have 1689 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 3: to go to like a rolling schedule where you pay everybody, 1690 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 3: you know equal y or you rotate a lot of travel. 1691 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they you know, I guess that was brought 1692 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,600 Speaker 2: up the last owners being they tabled it. They're going 1693 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,679 Speaker 2: to hopefully vote on it this this one. They're also 1694 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 2: going to vote on eliminating assisting another players pushes. 1695 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 3: The push up. It's going back the rule proposal would 1696 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 3: go back to the way the rule was previously written 1697 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 3: up until like two thousand and five. I think where 1698 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,840 Speaker 3: you can't you can't assist another player, can't push or 1699 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 3: pull another player. 1700 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 2: Right, And then there was one other There's a lot 1701 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 2: of things, but there was one other one that was, 1702 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 2: uh three things that were kind of notable. 1703 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,720 Speaker 3: The other big one was the Olympics. 1704 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, allowing these guys to play in flat football in 1705 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 2: the Olympic in twenty eight Can you indulge me for 1706 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 2: a second? Sure, So I I understand the whole push 1707 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 2: for flat football with the league. You know, it's a 1708 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 2: good way to get kids that don't necessarily want to 1709 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:08,759 Speaker 2: play tackle get involved in in a game that involves 1710 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 2: a football. But it is a false It's it's inaccurate 1711 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 2: to say that by playing flag football you're learning football. 1712 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 2: It's it's not football. It's a totally different game. Like 1713 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,600 Speaker 2: I said, the fact that you have a line of 1714 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 2: scrimmage and a football, it's it's not football. And I 1715 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 2: don't think the numbers suggest that there is like a 1716 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 2: gateway from flag football to tackle football. And the league 1717 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 2: needs to address the fact that participation in tackle football 1718 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 2: is going down. Flag football is not the way to 1719 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:49,680 Speaker 2: do it. It's it's too show the benefits of tackle football. 1720 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 3: Like how it's helped young men. 1721 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,880 Speaker 2: And you know, I do this coaches clinic every year, 1722 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 2: and you know, they give awards to kids and you 1723 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 2: know some of these kids, like you look at them, 1724 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 2: they don't look like football players, but what they learned 1725 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 2: from being on a football team is going to help 1726 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 2: them in life. 1727 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 3: And football is. 1728 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,240 Speaker 2: One you know, like I know, you'll stick up for hockey, 1729 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 2: but the nature of a football team, with all the 1730 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,919 Speaker 2: varied positions and types of players that you need, sizes 1731 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 2: and shapes and everything, there is a role for everybody 1732 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 2: on a football team. And it's a hard sport, like 1733 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,760 Speaker 2: and you learn a lot from football, and I think 1734 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 2: the league needs to start promoting that at the youth level, 1735 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,640 Speaker 2: Like you get this from playing tackle football. 1736 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 3: And I know the whole health thing. 1737 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 2: But tackle football is more safe than it ever has been, 1738 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 2: you know, because of all the rules changes and helmets 1739 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Start promoting what the good stuff 1740 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 2: about tackle football instead of falling back to flag football. 1741 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 2: That's not going to help participation in tackle football, and 1742 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:59,960 Speaker 2: that's desperately needed because the talent pool is dwindling and international. 1743 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 2: You might help a little twenty years from now, it's 1744 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 2: not gonna help ten years from now. We got to 1745 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 2: get more kids playing tackle football, and flat football is 1746 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 2: not the way to do it. That's just my soapbox 1747 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 2: on the step you're stepping off right now. 1748 01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,080 Speaker 4: I feel like you're stepping up in defensive kids kind 1749 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 4: of like me when I was a kid, the fat kids, right, 1750 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 4: because there's always sports that you can run fast. You 1751 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,000 Speaker 4: want to play flag football, right, you're good, But like you, 1752 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,639 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what I love about football. 1753 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 3: That makes it unique. 1754 01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 4: Like you said, there's all different body types required and 1755 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 4: everyone can have it. 1756 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,679 Speaker 2: Most places, it's a no cut sport. In high school, 1757 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 2: you come out, you're on the team. We'll find something 1758 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 2: for you to do. We'll find something for you to do, 1759 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,439 Speaker 2: and you'll be part of this team. And if you 1760 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,040 Speaker 2: stick with it, you're gonna learn a lot. And you know, 1761 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 2: some of these you know, these coaches, they're you know, 1762 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,200 Speaker 2: great people, and they're doing it after work. They're they're volunteering, 1763 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 2: and you know, you know, I don't want to diminish 1764 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 2: all the other sports, but there's just something more to football. 1765 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,240 Speaker 2: Planning of it, the coaching that's required, the different coaches 1766 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 2: that you need, it's it's you know, it's I think 1767 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,919 Speaker 2: it's the best team sport ever created. 1768 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:11,240 Speaker 3: Me too. 1769 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,920 Speaker 4: I mean there's I mean, it's got everything. There's pace, 1770 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,960 Speaker 4: there's violence, there's you know, I can get it. Not 1771 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 4: to get like philosophical, but it embodies the human experience. 1772 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 4: And I mean, I think so many kids who play 1773 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,800 Speaker 4: high school football or really any sport, but I mean 1774 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 4: specifically football because it is a little bit harder. 1775 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,680 Speaker 3: Those lessons you learned from the challenges, it's so important. 1776 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 4: I mean, and being able to play through injuries and 1777 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,519 Speaker 4: to you know, I'm going through it now with my 1778 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,559 Speaker 4: kids and they're playing high school sports and you know, 1779 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,439 Speaker 4: learning about getting you know, not getting enough playing time 1780 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 4: or you know, thinking that you should have something you don't, 1781 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,679 Speaker 4: and I mean, I think all those things are great 1782 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 4: for sports, but there is something unique about football sure. 1783 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,280 Speaker 2: And you know, listen, my kid wouldn't have gone to 1784 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,799 Speaker 2: college had it not been for lacrosse. But I remember 1785 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 2: when he went out for Pop Warner, and I remember 1786 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 2: those first couple of practices in the summer. He came 1787 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:01,840 Speaker 2: back and I don't know if I want to do this. 1788 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,760 Speaker 2: And I sat him down and I said, you don't 1789 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 2: have to, but if you stick with this, you're going 1790 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,880 Speaker 2: to see You're going to see what it can do 1791 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 2: for you. And he did, you know, and he did, 1792 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 2: and he was glad he did. There's just a structure 1793 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,000 Speaker 2: to football that for a lot of kids, they need 1794 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 2: that structure. 1795 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,720 Speaker 3: And there's tens. 1796 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 2: Of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of young men, 1797 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,679 Speaker 2: young boys, that this sport has helped and the league 1798 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 2: needs to do a better job getting that out there. 1799 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,559 Speaker 2: And whether it's creating a network of people that parents 1800 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 2: can talk to when they're trying to decide to let 1801 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,719 Speaker 2: their kids play tackle football, you know, not just coaches, 1802 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 2: but like former NFL alumni that live in your area 1803 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,519 Speaker 2: have a network of people that they can talk to, 1804 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,120 Speaker 2: you know, go to the schools, talk about the benefits 1805 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 2: of football and we need to do a better job 1806 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 2: in the NFL going on offense for football. 1807 01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 4: I think you're I don't want a hard dose of 1808 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 4: truth for the NFL, because I agree with you in 1809 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 4: the fact that do we really think that flag is 1810 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 4: going to become a feeder system for tacking. 1811 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 3: It's not. 1812 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 4: Maybe for a couple of kids who can run and 1813 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 4: play receiver and avoid getting hit for a couple of 1814 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 4: years and then they get in and all right now, 1815 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:14,519 Speaker 4: but the rest of the. 1816 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,120 Speaker 3: Game is entirely different. 1817 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,599 Speaker 4: And I mean just experience my son, who, by the way, 1818 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 4: have five touchdowns in flag football, but went into the 1819 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 4: lacrosse and now it's like gets his bell wrong and 1820 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,599 Speaker 4: you realize there's a completely different world of flag football 1821 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,000 Speaker 4: and tackle football. I mean, there's just non contact sports 1822 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,559 Speaker 4: and contact sports in general, right, but there's no way 1823 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 4: to simulate what real football is with. 1824 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 3: No I do think it has helped, though, like the 1825 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,160 Speaker 3: passing game sophistication and. 1826 01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,519 Speaker 4: What is that like off field seven on seven camps 1827 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,639 Speaker 4: or is that specifically flag football. 1828 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:52,280 Speaker 3: I think it's probably both. But I the receivers that 1829 01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 3: are coming into the league specifically, their level of skill 1830 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,400 Speaker 3: is so much higher. I think I mean, every single 1831 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,760 Speaker 3: year there were the talent pool at wide receiver is 1832 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 3: just off the charts, and I think a lot of 1833 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,559 Speaker 3: that does have to do with the fact that they 1834 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,599 Speaker 3: are playing year round, even if it's not tackle football, 1835 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 3: just learning you know how to catch, learning how to 1836 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,719 Speaker 3: run routes, learning you know how to in the open field, 1837 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,040 Speaker 3: you know how to avoid people in the open field. 1838 01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 3: Like I hear what you're saying in terms of it 1839 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,600 Speaker 3: not being the same, because it's not. But there we 1840 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,880 Speaker 3: have seen, you know, quarterbacks get better, receivers get better 1841 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 3: as a result, like I. 1842 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 2: Because they're playing, like you said, they're doing it year right, you. 1843 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,640 Speaker 3: Know that's the biggest thing. Yeah, but you know nowadays, 1844 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 3: like the talent in the draft that wide receiver every 1845 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,599 Speaker 3: single year is just it's incredible. But keep it going, 1846 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,599 Speaker 3: like we can't find tackles anymore, you. 1847 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,519 Speaker 2: Know, Like right, that is that part of it, you know, 1848 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 2: and listen participations going down. That's a fact. So we 1849 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 2: need to reverse that. We need to reverse it. 1850 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I said, look, when I was in California, 1851 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,680 Speaker 4: lacrosse was eating into football too, Like Relifornia, that was 1852 01:24:58,840 --> 01:24:59,760 Speaker 4: almost ten years ago. 1853 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 2: Now that's good sport all right, let's get back to 1854 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,679 Speaker 2: your calls on the hot line. Eight five five pass 1855 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 2: five hundred. Todd's in North Carolina. 1856 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,680 Speaker 3: What's up, Todd? 1857 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:10,919 Speaker 11: Not much, said Braskin. 1858 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 9: I've got one question, but before I ask it, i 1859 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 9: just want to say forged in Boxborough, simply amazing. 1860 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, and your energy today is great. 1861 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,000 Speaker 2: Well listen our first day of OTA, so we're ready 1862 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 2: to go. 1863 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 4: Plus not here rain On yeah, yeah, yeah, they were 1864 01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 4: okay here. 1865 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 9: This is a. 1866 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 6: Cattle show. 1867 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 9: And he says that the secret weapon on defense is 1868 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 9: going to be white. 1869 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 11: Now, I want to know if you guys have a 1870 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 11: favorite or a secret weapon for this upcoming year, and 1871 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 11: if it's not white, who is it? 1872 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 4: Thus, Okay, thanks, that's a good question. Key On White 1873 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,040 Speaker 4: involved today and you can see how what they kind 1874 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,559 Speaker 4: of have planned for him. I don't know if it's 1875 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 4: my secret weapon, but I think my crush this year 1876 01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,840 Speaker 4: is going to be Robertsplaine, for he. 1877 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,600 Speaker 3: Took the woods out of my mouth some speed. 1878 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,760 Speaker 4: At the I mean I just saw him run out 1879 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,479 Speaker 4: of the tunnel today and like we've seen him, we had. 1880 01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:09,920 Speaker 3: Him on I know we didn't get him on the show. 1881 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 3: We met him and talk to you. 1882 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 4: We need him though, But all of a sudden, the 1883 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,840 Speaker 4: helmet comes on, the blood, the shield, he just like 1884 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 4: sprints onto the field faster than anyone I've ever seen. 1885 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,840 Speaker 4: I mean, he's just a high, high energy guy at 1886 01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 4: at my favorite position, linebacker, And now I'm excited. 1887 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 3: That's positive energy. I know he's a secret weapon, but 1888 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if I would more call him an 1889 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 3: X factor, Like if he, like if Keon White realizes 1890 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:38,799 Speaker 3: his potential and and evolves into another stud with Barmore 1891 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,519 Speaker 3: and Milton Williams on the defensive line, now you're really 1892 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 3: got something watch out. But it could also go the 1893 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,040 Speaker 3: other way, and he could and he could just be 1894 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 3: this for the rest, you know, a good not great 1895 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,160 Speaker 3: player for the rest of his career. So he looks 1896 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:51,559 Speaker 3: the part. 1897 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,639 Speaker 4: I mean, if you stand him next to Barmore, Milton 1898 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,719 Speaker 4: Williams and you know Harold Landry and you know Chase 1899 01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,439 Speaker 4: On those guys that are they're playing along the line 1900 01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,519 Speaker 4: of scrimmage, I mean they they look they got. 1901 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 3: A legit front front front group. Yeah. I mean, there's 1902 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 3: a lot of moving parts on offense, but first rapid 1903 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,680 Speaker 3: team drills, it's those four guys across, you know, Landry Williams, 1904 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 3: bar More and Kean White, and you're like, all right, 1905 01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,600 Speaker 3: here we go, Arn Davis Konzo on the outside. 1906 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 2: We talk about all these guys at such length that 1907 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,559 Speaker 2: it's hard to have a secret weapon on this show, right, 1908 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 2: you know, because we're covering everybody. 1909 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I think the secret 1910 01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 4: weapon might be as camp goes along and you realize 1911 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,559 Speaker 4: that somebody is going to have a little bit more 1912 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,559 Speaker 4: of a role, like you know, Craig Woodson, just throw 1913 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,800 Speaker 4: it out. You know, he's gonna be like, you know, 1914 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 4: somebody's gonna that you're not expecting is really coming on 1915 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 4: and might have. 1916 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 3: A role somewhere. 1917 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean's and Vancouver. What's up, Sean. 1918 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 11: I want to help that caller earlier who was going 1919 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 11: on about Polk when it eased his concerns a little bit. 1920 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 8: Right now in May, I see Polk at like seventh 1921 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:56,879 Speaker 8: on the wide receiver depth chart. You have dig yeah Douglas, 1922 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,560 Speaker 8: than you have Williams. 1923 01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 15: You have that. 1924 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,679 Speaker 9: What's the pre agent? 1925 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,320 Speaker 3: I'm not helping you, Sean. You got Booby and Born 1926 01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,320 Speaker 3: so that's like six and now it's five. 1927 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 7: Dick is on people to start the year is an 1928 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,120 Speaker 7: easier path, but there's no guarantees that he makes the team. 1929 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,000 Speaker 8: He's gonna really have to show something on the field 1930 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,839 Speaker 8: and he's gonna have to prove himself. 1931 01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,679 Speaker 11: So if if. 1932 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 9: Pulk and Baker are on this team, it shows that 1933 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,639 Speaker 9: they made a huge year two jump. 1934 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 3: And that's what I see it fair enough. 1935 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,680 Speaker 2: I think that's fair bring my death. If they make 1936 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,120 Speaker 2: the team, that means they have earned it. 1937 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. I do worry about Jalen Polk though, because he 1938 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,680 Speaker 3: was fine in camp last year and then it just 1939 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,680 Speaker 3: completely unrallied for him in the season. So like for 1940 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,840 Speaker 3: people that have been here, you know, like Elliot Wolf, 1941 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 3: like does he look at it and say, well, like 1942 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 3: let's pump the brakes like he did this last summer too, 1943 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 3: and then we got into the season and it didn't 1944 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,720 Speaker 3: look the same. So that's the part that I think 1945 01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,360 Speaker 3: is tricky with Polk in particular, is that he did 1946 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,280 Speaker 3: put together a pretty good rookie training camp and he 1947 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 3: looked the part and it looked like he was going 1948 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,120 Speaker 3: to have a role and all that kind of stuff, 1949 01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,200 Speaker 3: And to like you said earlier, he doesn't get his 1950 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,639 Speaker 3: foot in bounds against Miami early on in the season, 1951 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 3: and that was sort of it. 1952 01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he started thinking and dropping and it just 1953 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, it just and I don't think he 1954 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,599 Speaker 2: was getting the support he needed, maybe the tough love 1955 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 2: that he needed. 1956 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm surprised they didn't mention Baker too, because 1957 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 4: I feel like there are probably more people on the 1958 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 4: Baker hype train, even though they probably did. Both did 1959 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,800 Speaker 4: nothing last year really when they boil it down. But 1960 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 4: I I don't know. We'll see how he how he 1961 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,840 Speaker 4: comes through. I think it's a good piece to have. 1962 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,559 Speaker 4: I still like him, I still like the player. I 1963 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,720 Speaker 4: just hope that Josh McDaniels is able to put him 1964 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,080 Speaker 4: in position to be successful this year and build his confidence. 1965 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 2: Kendall's in North Carolina and Kendall on the field, can't 1966 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:47,280 Speaker 2: make the club from the top. Kendall there, kend oh 1967 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,400 Speaker 2: there you are. Hey. 1968 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask y'all what did y'all see out 1969 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,839 Speaker 1: of Kendrick Born today? 1970 01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, both of them were active. 1971 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,760 Speaker 4: I mean, thanks Kendall. One caught some passes. I mean 1972 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,160 Speaker 4: they you know, yeah, he looks healthy. 1973 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:03,680 Speaker 3: He's good. 1974 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,479 Speaker 4: Good to see him back out there, and you know 1975 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,920 Speaker 4: fully participant in you know, Chisholm. You talked a little 1976 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,240 Speaker 4: bit about him, but he was he was around me. 1977 01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean aftin Chisholm looks exactly like every other 1978 01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 3: slot receiver I've ever seen in a Patriots training camp 1979 01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:20,320 Speaker 3: so far, uh, you know, from Riley mccarren to Austin 1980 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,840 Speaker 3: Carr to Gunner ol Chefsky to Braxton Barrios to keep 1981 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,759 Speaker 3: you know whoever. I mean, he got open, He gets open, 1982 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,840 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. Now he's running a lot 1983 01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 3: with Josh Dobbs and sort of the second unit today, 1984 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 3: So I want to see it against you know, Carlton Davis, Gonzalez, 1985 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 3: Marcus Jones, like you know, some of the top corners 1986 01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 3: that they have here. But if he's uh, you know, 1987 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,760 Speaker 3: he's got that just good knack of you know, kind 1988 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,080 Speaker 3: of understanding how to get open and where he's supposed 1989 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 3: to be and knows his sweet spots and that sort 1990 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,439 Speaker 3: of thing. He's got quickness. He's not fast, but he's quick. 1991 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 3: So I think there's something there for him. 1992 01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,479 Speaker 4: Did cause you question, did you clock anybody any other 1993 01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:04,479 Speaker 4: corners involved there? Like you know, had a nice play 1994 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,960 Speaker 4: with Williams where he's kind of running with him down 1995 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 4: the field. 1996 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, some Alex Austin in there a little bit, But 1997 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,160 Speaker 3: those four guys seem to get a lot of the 1998 01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:17,880 Speaker 3: reps during Team Gonzales. Davis Marcus, when's our next access 1999 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,639 Speaker 3: next week? Yeah? I think next Wednesday. 2000 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and then Monday, and then I think Mini Camp. Yeah, 2001 01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 4: my weeks are correct. 2002 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,960 Speaker 2: This is Jonathan from Virginia. Loved the show, been listening 2003 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,200 Speaker 2: since thirteen. Wanted to drop in and echo the terrific 2004 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,719 Speaker 2: response to Forged in Foxborough. I watched it this weekend 2005 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,600 Speaker 2: and was put at ease with the hiring. 2006 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 3: Of Mike Vrabel. Very well done. 2007 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,360 Speaker 2: Also, I don't live there anymore, but Traveon Henderson is 2008 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 2: from the town I grew up in in Hopewell, Virginia. 2009 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 2: We went to the same high school a few years apart. 2010 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,599 Speaker 2: Saw when he helped win the state championship that season, 2011 01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,720 Speaker 2: was thinking you might fall to us. Since Judkins went 2012 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,679 Speaker 2: to the Browns and was thrilled when he did, makes 2013 01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,639 Speaker 2: it super easy to root for him in the NFL. 2014 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,800 Speaker 2: Now it's a big deal in that city that he 2015 01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,720 Speaker 2: made it. Saw James White talk about a little birdie 2016 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,439 Speaker 2: telling him that they're having Trey watch tape of his 2017 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,120 Speaker 2: time playing. What have you seen from him in the 2018 01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,360 Speaker 2: limited amount of time that he's been on the field, 2019 01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,639 Speaker 2: and does it carry those same James White vibes little 2020 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:17,040 Speaker 2: too soon? 2021 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,360 Speaker 3: Well, just it was only today. 2022 01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,639 Speaker 4: He wasn't out at the one rookie MENI camp practice 2023 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 4: that we got to see. 2024 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,640 Speaker 3: But Evan laid it out. Yeah, he looked quick. I 2025 01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,559 Speaker 3: mean he's not the biggest guy, but but he's built. Yeah, 2026 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,639 Speaker 3: it looks balanced like good. Yeah, it's great to see 2027 01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,679 Speaker 3: a thirty two running back. Thirtiness to him, good speed. 2028 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,360 Speaker 3: You know, I think he's different from James White, Like 2029 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,719 Speaker 3: I think James White was a true pass catching back, 2030 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,880 Speaker 3: you know his third down, third and six. Henderson has 2031 01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,760 Speaker 3: more speed, right, Henderson's just a little bit more explosive, 2032 01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 3: But like, I think he's more well rounded than I know. 2033 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,160 Speaker 3: James White was good, you know, ran the ball more 2034 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:56,000 Speaker 3: in college. But I just don't look at them exactly 2035 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,479 Speaker 3: the same because I think Henderson's faster in a straight 2036 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 3: line and not quite as quick as James White was. 2037 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,559 Speaker 3: But James White was extremely quick, but maybe not that 2038 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:06,719 Speaker 3: breakaway speed. 2039 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 1: I got a. 2040 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,400 Speaker 4: Sturdy too, even though they're both small guys, Like I 2041 01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,960 Speaker 4: get a little bit more of a Henderson could take 2042 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,720 Speaker 4: a little bit more of a beating if he had 2043 01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 4: to run early down go through that. 2044 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 3: That's definitely what I mean. Look, it's one practice. I'm 2045 01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,200 Speaker 3: not going to sit here and like start fitting the 2046 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 3: guy for red jackets. But like, the one thing that 2047 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 3: i'd always you always look for is like how does 2048 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,280 Speaker 3: he move? And like how does he carry the weight? 2049 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:34,960 Speaker 3: And he just looks like a built player, explosive, built 2050 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 3: player that's not six', five not, huge but he's he's 2051 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,160 Speaker 3: got that compact like juice to, him WHICH i think is. 2052 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,360 Speaker 2: Exciting jonathan also, says, Ps Father, FRED i have a. 2053 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,080 Speaker 2: Confession we're moving and we bought AN lg washer and 2054 01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 2: dryer instead of a Speed. Queen despite my impassioned speech 2055 01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,880 Speaker 2: to my wife That fred knows all about food stains 2056 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,640 Speaker 2: and washing, machines it wasn't. ENOUGH i can just see this, 2057 01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,920 Speaker 2: guy But fred, says but he's, like who the f? 2058 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:01,160 Speaker 1: Is? 2059 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,599 Speaker 3: Fred why DO i care what this guy on a podcast? Says? 2060 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah i've been thinking too much about this Father 2061 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,320 Speaker 4: fred show keeps popping into my. 2062 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,400 Speaker 3: HEAD i ACTUALLY i actually had it all worked. 2063 01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:19,720 Speaker 2: OUT i actually have my treatment so, so but it's 2064 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,400 Speaker 2: not Father. Fred it's The Chicago. Pope So Chicago. Pope 2065 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 2: so what it was is this guy was when he was, 2066 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,720 Speaker 2: young he was a police officer and he was a 2067 01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,680 Speaker 2: damn good, one. Huh but there's a traumatic experience in 2068 01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,000 Speaker 2: his life that he quit being a police officer became a. 2069 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,200 Speaker 2: Priest and we don't know what that traumatic thing is 2070 01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 2: that we're going to. Build we're gonna, learn but we don't. 2071 01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,600 Speaker 2: Know we don't we don't know the traumatic. Experience but 2072 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,960 Speaker 2: he became as good a priest as he was a, 2073 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 2: cop and he. Rose he became a bishop and a 2074 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 2: cardinal and then eventually. Pope but he can never turn 2075 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:56,080 Speaker 2: his back On, chicago so he always goes back to 2076 01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:57,160 Speaker 2: help them fight. 2077 01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,560 Speaker 4: Crime my old, BOSSES i, think got a sailor on 2078 01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:05,800 Speaker 4: line up bidding. MORE nbc wants it a B C, Cbs. 2079 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 2: And there's there's The Hot nun right, Right, well you 2080 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,160 Speaker 2: got to have a will there and. 2081 01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:15,000 Speaker 3: His Father, fred who plays The Hot, nuns and THAT'S 2082 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:15,759 Speaker 3: i don't. 2083 01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,719 Speaker 2: Know but it could be a spin off after a few, Years. 2084 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 3: Sophia it's Very. Latin i'm thinking of. 2085 01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,519 Speaker 4: Just like catchphrases BECAUSE i grew, up you, know going 2086 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,519 Speaker 4: To catholic masses and would, think you, know like the you, 2087 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,000 Speaker 4: know the name of The, father you, know. 2088 01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 3: All the little things that could have the double. Meanings 2089 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:41,280 Speaker 3: of course it's a gold, mine cold. Mind what did you, 2090 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:41,640 Speaker 3: say man? 2091 01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,200 Speaker 4: Ruler, yeah to measure to beat? 2092 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,680 Speaker 3: People, yeah some. People, now, okay now let's see how 2093 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 3: you stack. Up, yeah oh my, god have you? 2094 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:05,800 Speaker 4: Sinned, yea WATCHING i have a lot of that. 2095 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,200 Speaker 3: Stuff you, know it's a Second so it's not for 2096 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:14,320 Speaker 3: the old. People your discretion is a. Right Father fred 2097 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:18,679 Speaker 3: is intended for mature viewing, Audience, Chicago, Pope Father fred 2098 01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,120 Speaker 3: is a, character, right got to. 2099 01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:24,200 Speaker 4: Get, wait but you know, What, Fred i'm gonna build on. This, 2100 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,519 Speaker 4: Okay so you still have connections in the police, force 2101 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,360 Speaker 4: so you, help of course from time to that's exactly, 2102 01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 4: right solve the. 2103 01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 2: Cases so like he's even you, know activity during his 2104 01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:40,479 Speaker 2: ascension as Priest bishop, cardinal he was always helping the police. 2105 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:41,720 Speaker 3: Force that was in his. 2106 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:47,480 Speaker 2: Blood but something, happened we don't know that he became a, priest. 2107 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,719 Speaker 4: Right and it has to be whatever that thing, happened 2108 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:51,840 Speaker 4: it has to tie to the antagonist who is the 2109 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,120 Speaker 4: head of The Chicago, diary. 2110 01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,760 Speaker 3: That he's, Dirty he's involved in something in. 2111 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:02,479 Speaker 2: His life that, Said i'm going to become A, yeah so. 2112 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:06,800 Speaker 3: Something this sounds like an award Winning. YEAH i just 2113 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,320 Speaker 3: keep hearing forgive me, father For i've. 2114 01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:12,840 Speaker 4: Sinned fred Bean line just puts this Like, buffalo. 2115 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 2: Give me hear about my time In, tampa. 2116 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 3: All, Right. 2117 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,960 Speaker 2: Daniel writes In i've heard everything About rabel's time With 2118 01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,519 Speaker 2: tennessee and how it relates to what he'll bring To 2119 01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,519 Speaker 2: New england as a, coach but nothing about his time 2120 01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,240 Speaker 2: with The. Browns do you have any opinions or insight 2121 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,920 Speaker 2: on his time there and if it might have affected his? 2122 01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,040 Speaker 2: Coaching so last, Year. 2123 01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,360 Speaker 3: Yeah we talked about it and a fun, times so you, 2124 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:39,240 Speaker 3: KNOW i think it was. 2125 01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,479 Speaker 4: UH i think it was a learning, thing, Right Kevin 2126 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,640 Speaker 4: stefanski's idea to have him work with the offense a 2127 01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:47,599 Speaker 4: little bit and work with the offensive, line so getting 2128 01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,920 Speaker 4: a little bit more rounded out in his. Coaching but 2129 01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:52,880 Speaker 4: every TIME i See, RABEL i mean that goes back 2130 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:54,800 Speaker 4: even before last. YEAR i feel like that guy can't 2131 01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,160 Speaker 4: get away from the offensive, Line like he just loves 2132 01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,639 Speaker 4: putting that Pad on and tangling with the big, Boys 2133 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,400 Speaker 4: LIKE i just think it puts them back when he's playing. 2134 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,120 Speaker 2: Days that's what he's the most, Relatable like they're the 2135 01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:06,519 Speaker 2: ONES i think you want to coach. 2136 01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,240 Speaker 3: More, yeah you know he has a coaching point for 2137 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,599 Speaker 3: after every single play he's saying something like there's some 2138 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,760 Speaker 3: coaches that are kind of stand offish AND i you, know, 2139 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,439 Speaker 3: TODAY i don't know if it was just by, design 2140 01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,599 Speaker 3: but Like josh McDaniel seemed a little like he had 2141 01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,680 Speaker 3: the headset on and was relaying the plays and he 2142 01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 3: was kind of letting them play like he wasn't not 2143 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,880 Speaker 3: after every. Rep he wasn't going up To drake and 2144 01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 3: like coaching. Him But rabel was ten yards behind the. 2145 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,000 Speaker 3: Play after every play he was talking to, guys you 2146 01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,120 Speaker 3: know you did, this do, that and you know. Whatever 2147 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:42,640 Speaker 3: and we've noticed that In Rooky minichamp, Too like he's 2148 01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,800 Speaker 3: as involved as any Coach i've, like maybe even more 2149 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:49,840 Speaker 3: involved Than bill in some. Respects he's got an opinion about. Everything, yeah, yeah, 2150 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah so we had a lot of praise heaped on. 2151 01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:57,400 Speaker 3: Us now some, grievances got, it this is who is? 2152 01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,839 Speaker 2: This this Is jay feel forced to make this email, 2153 01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,680 Speaker 2: now and there's something else that bothers. Me first, off 2154 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,479 Speaker 2: you guys are incredible. Entertainers now that the fluff is 2155 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,840 Speaker 2: over with, one the intro Says patriots unfiltered too many. 2156 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,880 Speaker 2: Times please get rid of the robot. Voice the world's 2157 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,639 Speaker 2: original podcast. Works we don't need to hear it. More 2158 01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:21,360 Speaker 2: it's a bad. Intro, two THE pu halftime or assur 2159 01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,600 Speaker 2: we as it's, called is so freaking. Entertaining but the 2160 01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,280 Speaker 2: music is both loud and. Distracting it's a horrible track 2161 01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:33,080 Speaker 2: to put behind people. Talking it's just loud. Jazz please 2162 01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:34,680 Speaker 2: fix both the track and the. 2163 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:43,040 Speaker 3: Volume? Okay? Done and three, okay why do we even 2164 01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:48,320 Speaker 3: have music while they're? Talking spice it up? This LIKE 2165 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,880 Speaker 3: i asked someone here that worked FOR. Espen they can't even. 2166 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,479 Speaker 2: Answer why is it when you're WATCHING espan and you 2167 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,720 Speaker 2: get talking heads, analyzing and then they show some? Highlights 2168 01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,840 Speaker 2: do they always feel they have to have the music under? 2169 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,040 Speaker 2: Bed so he's, talking there's a highlight going on and 2170 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:05,880 Speaker 2: there's music, Playing, like. 2171 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,240 Speaker 3: Why did they do? That do you notice? THAT i know. 2172 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,639 Speaker 2: That's, yeah they feel that they have to have music 2173 01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:15,280 Speaker 2: playing when you're watching a. Highlight highlight package even when someone's, 2174 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:16,000 Speaker 2: talking and it's. 2175 01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,599 Speaker 3: Hard it's hard because we get our coaching From jerry 2176 01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,120 Speaker 3: and like we talk a lot about that about you 2177 01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,360 Speaker 3: don't know when you're, covered, Right so like you could 2178 01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:25,760 Speaker 3: be talking and they could be showing highlights over, you 2179 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,200 Speaker 3: and so then how you, LIKE. 2180 01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,120 Speaker 2: I guess maybe the music indicates That i'm. Covered MAYBE 2181 01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:30,640 Speaker 2: i don't, know. 2182 01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,160 Speaker 3: Right that is tricky, though because like you don't know 2183 01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:35,439 Speaker 3: you know how the editor is going to edit, you 2184 01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,439 Speaker 3: and so then you have to your your delivery has 2185 01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,080 Speaker 3: to change a little bit when you're covered so that 2186 01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,479 Speaker 3: they can hear. You don't highlights have to have music 2187 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:44,960 Speaker 3: or wouldn't that seem? Weird like do you feel like 2188 01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,519 Speaker 3: if you just show Maybe i'm just not picturing. It 2189 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:48,920 Speaker 3: but LIKE i always if. 2190 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,720 Speaker 2: No one's, talking but when there's someone talking and you've 2191 01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:55,519 Speaker 2: got the music and then they and then, yeah SO 2192 01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,400 Speaker 2: i don't know why they do, that but they all do. 2193 01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:58,080 Speaker 3: It they all do. 2194 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,680 Speaker 2: It, Three, evan no one cares about The. Celtics you 2195 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:03,960 Speaker 2: make everyone upset every time you go on one of your. 2196 01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,600 Speaker 3: Rants please keep doing it's. Right everybody cares. 2197 01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:10,320 Speaker 1: A. 2198 01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:15,000 Speaker 2: Little john In La i've been loving the draft profiles 2199 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty five draft class so much that 2200 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,719 Speaker 2: it got me thinking it would be kind of cool 2201 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,240 Speaker 2: and sneaky good way to add content to the site 2202 01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:27,400 Speaker 2: with very little. Effort If patriots Dot com added a 2203 01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:31,559 Speaker 2: new future by periodically revisiting old draft profiles of draft 2204 01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,040 Speaker 2: picks from the, past you could do a hit and 2205 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,200 Speaker 2: miss Pairing Logan mankins And Duke, DAWSON i, guess but 2206 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,559 Speaker 2: it's probably wiser to just play the. HITS i for, 2207 01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,800 Speaker 2: one would love to go back and see What paul 2208 01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:45,040 Speaker 2: Or Eric orandy wrote about Say Julian edelman Or Teddy, 2209 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,640 Speaker 2: bruski and what insights the college coaches shared WITH pfw 2210 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,559 Speaker 2: at the earliest career moments of those. PLAYERS i would 2211 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,760 Speaker 2: also be curious to read the draft profile done On Aaron, 2212 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,760 Speaker 2: hernandez THOUGH i certainly understand Why pages Dot com might 2213 01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,200 Speaker 2: prefer to leave that one in the rear. View, again 2214 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,400 Speaker 2: require too many man hours to produce and presto extra. 2215 01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,200 Speaker 2: CONTENT i think we do that leading up to the 2216 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,840 Speaker 2: draft next, year like it's sort of like an appetizer 2217 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:10,080 Speaker 2: to the. 2218 01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,639 Speaker 3: Draft, yeah you, know do you think My Dalton keene 2219 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:13,760 Speaker 3: one will make the? Cut or is it. 2220 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:14,320 Speaker 1: Could. 2221 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,160 Speaker 3: YEAH I i love doing the draft. Profiles it's one 2222 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,519 Speaker 3: of my favorite things to do because it's just, ball, 2223 01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:21,760 Speaker 3: right just talk about these. Guys you just get to 2224 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,680 Speaker 3: talk about their their playing styles and at their you, 2225 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,960 Speaker 3: know their, journeys their football, journeys. 2226 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,280 Speaker 4: And the cons are always so excited to talk about. 2227 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,439 Speaker 4: Them they're so proud of their former. Players and, yeah 2228 01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,479 Speaker 4: it's it's and it's different because we you, know we 2229 01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 4: cover the, Team we write about the team with a 2230 01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,240 Speaker 4: little observation of that. Kind but to have just a 2231 01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,880 Speaker 4: chance to interview someone and write in our, boats it's 2232 01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:41,320 Speaker 4: fun and. 2233 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,160 Speaker 3: You get to fox a different, muscle like write a 2234 01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:45,800 Speaker 3: ton of. Features SO i DON'T i be able to 2235 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 3: write something like? That is? Cool and shout Out alex And. 2236 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,320 Speaker 3: Jules yeah they. Did both also chipped in and then 2237 01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,160 Speaker 3: wrote a couple of. Them so helped us get through 2238 01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,479 Speaker 3: all eleven of THE i think we're done, now, RIGHT 2239 01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,280 Speaker 3: i think webb minor. Published SO i think we're to 2240 01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,160 Speaker 3: be minor. Published and you, know you guys have been 2241 01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,280 Speaker 3: doing that fight all the way back to the paper. Days, 2242 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:02,160 Speaker 3: always well we do it in. 2243 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,519 Speaker 2: Writing, yeah they'd always call the coaches from college and 2244 01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:11,280 Speaker 2: they'd have like a little, chart like a bar, chart coachability, 2245 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,000 Speaker 2: technique and they'd have they'd show you know where they 2246 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:16,719 Speaker 2: are on those different. 2247 01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,439 Speaker 4: CATEGORIES i don't Think i've done anybody who's stuck LIKE i, 2248 01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,080 Speaker 4: Had Like, MAX i remember At. 2249 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,400 Speaker 3: KING i mean there's been a lot of you guys 2250 01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,040 Speaker 3: have spoiled, me And i've gotten their first round pick 2251 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,160 Speaker 3: the last three. Years SO i Did, GONZO'S i Did Drake, 2252 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:34,720 Speaker 3: may's so those ones have been good so. Far this 2253 01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:35,840 Speaker 3: is gert And. 2254 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,880 Speaker 2: Belgium it's my first time writing in but after seeing 2255 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,200 Speaker 2: the first episode of fours In, FOXBOROUGH i had to 2256 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,360 Speaker 2: when the episode was, over especially the part With Will. 2257 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,080 Speaker 2: CAMPBELL i wanted to start a career In madden as 2258 01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,920 Speaker 2: a left. Tackle can you have a career in Mad. 2259 01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:52,639 Speaker 3: Yeah it's a little. 2260 01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,960 Speaker 2: TEDIOUS i got goosebumps during the whole draft portion of the. 2261 01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,599 Speaker 2: EPISODE i feel like we got our. Guys i'm excited 2262 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,280 Speaker 2: about the. Future can't wait till the season. BEGINS i 2263 01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,160 Speaker 2: love what you guys and girls. Do listen TO pe 2264 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,880 Speaker 2: when my runs and it almost makes me Forget i'm 2265 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 2: on a. 2266 01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,720 Speaker 4: WORKOUT i MEAN i have kind of Like i'll have 2267 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,040 Speaker 4: to think of the, term but just like encouragement about 2268 01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,640 Speaker 4: tackles right now because to see Just Will campbell out 2269 01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,680 Speaker 4: there at left, Tackle moses wasn't really, participating but, yeah 2270 01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,920 Speaker 4: you're still Getting Katan wallace some opportunities out there. 2271 01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:23,320 Speaker 3: And Even Trey. 2272 01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,639 Speaker 4: Jacobs SO i don't, KNOW i just it's just great 2273 01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:27,240 Speaker 4: to look out there and be, like There's Will. Campbell 2274 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,080 Speaker 4: you spent all this like last three months thinking about this. 2275 01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:31,439 Speaker 3: Kid is he going to be? Here and then all 2276 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,799 Speaker 3: of a, sudden he's just. There he, is he's your left. Tackles. 2277 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,320 Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean there's gonna be rookie growing paints for any, 2278 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,640 Speaker 3: player And i'm Sure Will campbell have. His but just 2279 01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,639 Speaker 3: like the way he moves looks like a top ten. Pick, 2280 01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:45,880 Speaker 3: yeah the explosiveness out of his stance and just how 2281 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,040 Speaker 3: quickly he gets into the block and the power that 2282 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,519 Speaker 3: he can generate from the ground. 2283 01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:54,519 Speaker 2: Up and he's still a, baby, yeah relatively. Speaking he's 2284 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:55,120 Speaker 2: only twenty. 2285 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,240 Speaker 3: Two, yeah, well AND i think that's a good, thing 2286 01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:59,680 Speaker 3: you know, too just their theme of last couple of. 2287 01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,559 Speaker 3: Years you, know you Get gonzo's only twenty, Two drake 2288 01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,760 Speaker 3: may is still only twenty. Two Will campbell is young 2289 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,280 Speaker 3: and all these guys that came out as true junior, declares, 2290 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,080 Speaker 3: like you, know that's like the real premium talent when 2291 01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,559 Speaker 3: you get your hand and they've been drafting highs and that's. 2292 01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,080 Speaker 3: Why but like that's those types of guys are the 2293 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,400 Speaker 3: guys that are really the blue chip level talents because 2294 01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,479 Speaker 3: they broke out so early in their college. Careers so 2295 01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:24,720 Speaker 3: you see all three of these guys together, now and 2296 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,360 Speaker 3: LIKE i said, EARLIER i, Mean gonzo is the best 2297 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:28,080 Speaker 3: player on the field. 2298 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,439 Speaker 4: Today you know WHAT i was thinking about real quick 2299 01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:32,120 Speaker 4: was when we Had chase on in here and he 2300 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,320 Speaker 4: talked about going Opposite Max. Crosby Is patriots Got Max 2301 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,360 Speaker 4: crosby coming here week one For Will. CAMPBELL i wonder 2302 01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:42,200 Speaker 4: if that's going to be a matchup That. 2303 01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:47,559 Speaker 3: Max crosby, typically, Right, yeah they switch them to go 2304 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,280 Speaker 3: after the. ROOKIE i, Mean i'd definitely be testing him 2305 01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,000 Speaker 3: IF i was another. Team. Yeah. 2306 01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,759 Speaker 2: Sure matthew And arizona Love forge And foxborough was wondering 2307 01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,320 Speaker 2: it would be fun to do a small web. Series 2308 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,360 Speaker 2: Uh evan or whoever drives a player or coach in 2309 01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:06,559 Speaker 2: a golf cart to and From Duncan Gillette stadium To 2310 01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,599 Speaker 2: duncan as you talk to them about all things about their. 2311 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,120 Speaker 2: LIVES a good way to get to know. Everyone one on. 2312 01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,800 Speaker 3: One dunkin, run you could do That dunkin Run, yeah 2313 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:15,720 Speaker 3: up on the. 2314 01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,640 Speaker 2: Thing, yeah because you'd have to take the long, Way 2315 01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:20,800 Speaker 2: so that would be a good you, know ten to 2316 01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,600 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes in the golf could be. 2317 01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:24,240 Speaker 3: Fun Because i'm not the best golf cart. 2318 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,640 Speaker 4: Driver to add an element of danger to it THAT 2319 01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:28,559 Speaker 4: i think would really spice it up a little bit of. 2320 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,439 Speaker 2: YOU i, mean what if what if you had a 2321 01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,560 Speaker 2: driver and the two of you sit in that backseat 2322 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,519 Speaker 2: so you're facing Out duncan run and a. 2323 01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 3: Golf cart On route? One might be, like, no you 2324 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:38,080 Speaker 3: don't go on. 2325 01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:43,800 Speaker 2: One you're going to go the long go the long 2326 01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,000 Speaker 2: way and then you drive right up into dunk To. 2327 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,240 Speaker 3: Duncan, yeah and mobile order they bring it right. Out 2328 01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,360 Speaker 3: So i'm gonna, say because the one and the one 2329 01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,439 Speaker 3: right down the street has a drive, through so you 2330 01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:53,160 Speaker 3: could take the golf. 2331 01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 2: Car we're not taking a golf cart And rule, One 2332 01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:58,760 Speaker 2: oh my. 2333 01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:00,640 Speaker 3: God dunking, run where's tim? FROM i can call in 2334 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:01,600 Speaker 3: tell us if you like. 2335 01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:05,439 Speaker 2: IT i can just see it. Now they're doing what sold. 2336 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:09,599 Speaker 3: A sponsor element wrecking your, money Mister. 2337 01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,000 Speaker 2: Kraft one of your golf carts got involved in an. 2338 01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:13,840 Speaker 3: Accident it could be like you could be like a, 2339 01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:15,639 Speaker 3: gator not like a golf. Cart but. 2340 01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:26,200 Speaker 2: What about it nowhere. 2341 01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:25,880 Speaker 3: Where there's other, traffic? Forklift we'll just hit, people not. 2342 01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:30,559 Speaker 2: Cars audrey, says do you know about the OLD bbc 2343 01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:34,120 Speaker 2: show Called Father? TED i didn't know. That it's both 2344 01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:36,920 Speaker 2: stupid and very. Funny the religious humor is. Great have 2345 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:38,880 Speaker 2: a couple of, drinks watch and laugh right up your, 2346 01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,080 Speaker 2: alley frek quite. 2347 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:44,559 Speaker 3: Inappropriate Father. Ted look at that Up Father? Ted, okay 2348 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:51,439 Speaker 3: it's An irish television. Dram, yeah. Sarcastic a lot of. 2349 01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:54,040 Speaker 2: EMAILS i was worried that when we pushed the show 2350 01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,640 Speaker 2: to two that we wouldn't have the same, Audience but 2351 01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:00,120 Speaker 2: according to the calls and, emails we'll still have the 2352 01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,760 Speaker 2: same amount of. People So paul didn't tell, like he, 2353 01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:04,880 Speaker 2: said can we do the show On? Wednesday because of. 2354 01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,760 Speaker 2: Practice he didn't tell me that he wasn't going to 2355 01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:07,080 Speaker 2: be on this. 2356 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,639 Speaker 4: Show he was trying, to you, know trying to double. 2357 01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:10,760 Speaker 4: Dip he was trying to get the move without. 2358 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:12,439 Speaker 3: HAVING i, know but he's trying to push catch twenty 2359 01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,040 Speaker 3: two and that's what he was trying to do about. 2360 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:15,080 Speaker 4: It it's, like why don't we just do it the 2361 01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:16,840 Speaker 4: day after at the same, Time, like well even does 2362 01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:18,759 Speaker 4: kind of my time's. 2363 01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:24,400 Speaker 2: Lot paul Uh ismar writes In, Ismar i'm, sorry uh 2364 01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,640 Speaker 2: he has a pronunciation in the. Bottom he needs some 2365 01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,439 Speaker 2: advice planning to come over from THE uk to watch 2366 01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,600 Speaker 2: a home game early in the, season which SHOULD i. 2367 01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:36,000 Speaker 2: Choose i'm leaning towards The steelers because of the, history 2368 01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,200 Speaker 2: But panther seems like emphasis on seams the best chance 2369 01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,519 Speaker 2: of seeing a. Win or SHALL i suck it up 2370 01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:42,880 Speaker 2: and go to? 2371 01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:46,160 Speaker 3: Both? Well, Both, well that's a good call to go 2372 01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:47,960 Speaker 3: early in the. Season you want to you, know you 2373 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:51,240 Speaker 3: don't Post halloween it can get a little, chili as everyone, 2374 01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:54,760 Speaker 3: Knows so it's a good. CALL i would Go pittsburgh 2375 01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:56,880 Speaker 3: like there's a little bit more like he, said there's a, 2376 01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:01,240 Speaker 3: more more, history more, rivalry Like panthers that it just 2377 01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:02,400 Speaker 3: doesn't have a lot of juice to be. 2378 01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,840 Speaker 2: Well but if your sole goal is to see a, win, 2379 01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,240 Speaker 2: true it might Be. Panthers BUT i say, that but 2380 01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:10,760 Speaker 2: who knows who's going to be what this. 2381 01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,360 Speaker 3: YEAR i also who's going to Be steeers. Quarterback it 2382 01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,719 Speaker 3: sounds like it's gonna Be Aaron. Rodgers but there. 2383 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,559 Speaker 4: Also might be a cost consideration because that might be 2384 01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:20,479 Speaker 4: one of those upper tier. Games it's a little bit 2385 01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 4: more expensive than The panthers game. 2386 01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:23,400 Speaker 3: Too, yeah that's. True they are. 2387 01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:30,559 Speaker 2: Tiered ron from The pocono's right sin is subject line 2388 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:35,720 Speaker 2: is the Statue brady holding the ball overhead just Before vinitari's. 2389 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,880 Speaker 2: Kick that's the carved in stone. Image for, me it's 2390 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,880 Speaker 2: an iconic moment in, time almost biblical. Epic it symbolizes 2391 01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:44,760 Speaker 2: everything that came before and what's about to. 2392 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:45,240 Speaker 3: Happen it's. 2393 01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:49,000 Speaker 2: Perfect the conquering hero raising the, trophy the victor holding 2394 01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,439 Speaker 2: the severed head of the vanquished enemy of. MEDIOCRITY i 2395 01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,080 Speaker 2: don't see any other frozen moments that tells. Us SO i, 2396 01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:58,400 Speaker 2: guess did you guys ask for what the statue should. 2397 01:49:58,200 --> 01:49:58,800 Speaker 1: Look like or. 2398 01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,120 Speaker 3: That's just? Random? OKAY i think we. 2399 01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,479 Speaker 4: Did we did tell we did some statue talk last, 2400 01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,200 Speaker 4: week maybe from out a little bit of Sat. 2401 01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:08,519 Speaker 2: Yeah and if if you want to know when the 2402 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,920 Speaker 2: statue is going to be, UNVEILED i don't, KNOW i don't. 2403 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:20,679 Speaker 3: Know nobody. Does nobody. Does statues are. COMPLICATED i don't. 2404 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,080 Speaker 3: KNOW i don't. Know it looks do you? 2405 01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,080 Speaker 2: HEAR i GUESS i forget who from The raiders said 2406 01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:27,960 Speaker 2: that he's rarely, there but he's very. 2407 01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:31,559 Speaker 3: Involved Pe CARROLL. P carroll, said, yeah it makes. Sense 2408 01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,519 Speaker 3: he is the. Coach SO i don't know what very 2409 01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,719 Speaker 3: involved me sounds like it might be, annoying but, yeah 2410 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,519 Speaker 3: daily update. Callers he was supposed to be here more. 2411 01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:46,240 Speaker 3: Often like how percentage of the team does he? Own 2412 01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:51,560 Speaker 3: actually do we? Know is it like? One, Yeah mark's In. 2413 01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,599 Speaker 2: Connecticut there we, Go, mark what's? 2414 01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:54,880 Speaker 3: Up? 2415 01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,160 Speaker 9: Hey everybody thinks for taking my? CALL i got a 2416 01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,040 Speaker 9: two quick things for, you speaking Of Will, Campbell i'm 2417 01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:05,320 Speaker 9: on vacation down here In Baton. Rouge what we see in? 2418 01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:05,599 Speaker 17: Us? 2419 01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,479 Speaker 9: Right AND i got to go down To Tiger. Stadium 2420 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,960 Speaker 9: what an amazing facility they got. 2421 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,760 Speaker 3: THERE i was. 2422 01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:17,320 Speaker 9: There and the other, Thing, evan how does our GUY 2423 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:21,000 Speaker 9: J deprie? LOOK i know it's only a, spring you, 2424 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:23,400 Speaker 9: KNOW o pas and, Whatever but what do you think 2425 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:24,839 Speaker 9: is the kid got a good shot. 2426 01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:24,960 Speaker 1: To make the. 2427 01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:29,640 Speaker 3: ROSTER i can't wait to see him in. Pads he 2428 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,479 Speaker 3: looks he's. Huge, yeah it looks like he's a sixth 2429 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,519 Speaker 3: offensive lineman when he lines up at outside the. Tackle 2430 01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,960 Speaker 3: so this is not the time of year FOR. Cj 2431 01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:42,360 Speaker 3: dupree to. Shine he's not an. Athlete he's a big 2432 01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,800 Speaker 3: time blocker and a you, know, big big physical. Dude 2433 01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,000 Speaker 3: so we'll see when the pads come on In. August 2434 01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:49,599 Speaker 3: that's when he's going to make the. ROSTER i don't 2435 01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:52,080 Speaker 3: think it's going to be, now but that just even 2436 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:54,559 Speaker 3: had rookie midiicamp that he just a big, guy you, 2437 01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:55,960 Speaker 3: know really well. 2438 01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:58,479 Speaker 4: BUILT i was kind of, thought Shaheem bell looked, good 2439 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:00,640 Speaker 4: like well. BUILT i didn't seem to anything, today but 2440 01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:02,920 Speaker 4: just saw him walking out and look like he's in 2441 01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,160 Speaker 4: real good. Shape we'll see he's another one of those 2442 01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:05,679 Speaker 4: wild card. 2443 01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:06,000 Speaker 1: Guys. 2444 01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:09,040 Speaker 3: YEAH i went down to Uh l's For Jaden daniels's 2445 01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,439 Speaker 3: pro day a couple of years, ago and that facility is. 2446 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,800 Speaker 3: Something it was. Cool they have like catwalks so you 2447 01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,000 Speaker 3: can so you can get like the bird's eye view 2448 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,439 Speaker 3: of the of the practice. Field SO i was up 2449 01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:21,680 Speaker 3: there Watching Jayden daniels throw darts To Molik neighbors And 2450 01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,000 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior. 2451 01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:26,800 Speaker 4: And all three of these guys again, right oh my, 2452 01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,840 Speaker 4: God like that's when we were at that partment, before 2453 01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:30,120 Speaker 4: WHEN i was, like can you believe he used to 2454 01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,559 Speaker 4: Be Joe burrow And jefferson And chase and now can you? 2455 01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:33,720 Speaker 1: Believe Like. 2456 01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,840 Speaker 2: Mike And groveland writes IN i emailed about having better 2457 01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:41,559 Speaker 2: off season programming like other teams own hard knock style. Shows, 2458 01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:44,760 Speaker 2: wow you delivered with that first episode of fours and 2459 01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:48,439 Speaker 2: Fox bow well done by All SO i mean, People 2460 01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm i'm really glad that people are enjoying, it you, 2461 01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,280 Speaker 2: know like he, said other teams have had this like 2462 01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:01,160 Speaker 2: nothing new was, invented but for our fan, base it's all. 2463 01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:02,280 Speaker 3: New, yeah it's all. 2464 01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,799 Speaker 4: New so it felt like kind of a pellet cleanser 2465 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:07,720 Speaker 4: to me after the last couple of, years where just 2466 01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,040 Speaker 4: if a video could hit the reset button as far 2467 01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,679 Speaker 4: as the mood around the, team that's what it felt 2468 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,160 Speaker 4: like it did for. Me and that's just you know 2469 01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:20,000 Speaker 4: where my fan hat like they showed us the, TRAILER 2470 01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:21,519 Speaker 4: i don't, know like three weeks ago or. 2471 01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:24,000 Speaker 3: SOMETHING i don't. Like this is this is. Perfect this 2472 01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,599 Speaker 3: is just what this team needs to just hit the reset. 2473 01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,760 Speaker 4: Button as far as all this stuff goes and you, 2474 01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,840 Speaker 4: know get everybody focused on what's so great about Rabel, 2475 01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:33,880 Speaker 4: Is like people know, them they like, them but they're 2476 01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,680 Speaker 4: not like they don't know him knowing they don't know 2477 01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,320 Speaker 4: him as a coach really Had and that's WHAT i 2478 01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:40,920 Speaker 4: think they'll they'll they'll it'll be good to get to 2479 01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:41,320 Speaker 4: know him that. 2480 01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,760 Speaker 3: Way, yeah it's good to get to know the personnel guys, 2481 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,599 Speaker 3: Too LIKE i Think Ryan kaden seems like an awesome, 2482 01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,000 Speaker 3: executive right and have him here, too and get to 2483 01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:52,040 Speaker 3: know him and maybe get to Know elliott a little 2484 01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:53,800 Speaker 3: bit more than what people know of. Him you. KNOW 2485 01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,760 Speaker 3: i think that's. GOOD i think that's it's good to 2486 01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,760 Speaker 3: like have that sort of relationship with a. GUY i 2487 01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:01,960 Speaker 3: don't think that's always the case. 2488 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:03,920 Speaker 4: HERE i almost ran up to him today because he 2489 01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,040 Speaker 4: was walking off a little bit before, me and, like 2490 01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 4: he's just been so nice to all of, us and 2491 01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:09,680 Speaker 4: we talked to him on, hey when we talked to 2492 01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,920 Speaker 4: him during draft, nights, saying you, know nice to meet you, 2493 01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,479 Speaker 4: guys you know this way, finally but, YEAH i don't, 2494 01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:17,480 Speaker 4: know he just he seems to really care and understand 2495 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,080 Speaker 4: the position he's, in AND i think so far he's 2496 01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:21,880 Speaker 4: doing a good job kind of bringing it all. 2497 01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:25,439 Speaker 2: Together Bretton lemonster wouldn't be a show Without jaws mentioned 2498 01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,000 Speaker 2: H so last week the crew was talking about a 2499 01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,680 Speaker 2: company day Seeing jaws in the theater with their craft co. 2500 01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:34,040 Speaker 2: Workers how about a Pu jaws Showing the crew and 2501 01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,160 Speaker 2: their listeners can go to When Fox fur and watch. 2502 01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,880 Speaker 2: It you can have, trivia promise to give out more free, 2503 01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,880 Speaker 2: shirts maybe have deuced, guests speak on jazz stuff he's 2504 01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,240 Speaker 2: learned from, podcasts And evan could wear A celtics jersey 2505 01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:47,480 Speaker 2: and make popcorn for everybody. 2506 01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:51,000 Speaker 3: And not watching just. SMOKE i don't like. This Watched 2507 01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:54,080 Speaker 3: jaws With Patriots. Unfiltered you, KNOW i like this idea 2508 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,120 Speaker 3: of Watching jaws, though Because i've watched See i've watched 2509 01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,080 Speaker 3: it like once WHEN i was like a, KID i 2510 01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:03,840 Speaker 3: didn't get. It so maybe as an, adult, like, Well 2511 01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:08,200 Speaker 3: i'll explain it's a shark killing. People it kills. PEOPLE 2512 01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,320 Speaker 3: i don't think it was that, Good LIKE i just 2513 01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:11,720 Speaker 3: didn't didn't get. That you didn't get. 2514 01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:13,800 Speaker 4: That, yeah it's like the five year Old evan was 2515 01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,120 Speaker 4: LIKE i don't. CARE i was, like where's the where's the? 2516 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:20,000 Speaker 4: Shark like that looks fake. Stupid, yeah. 2517 01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:24,760 Speaker 2: Exactly, YEAH i MEAN i can't understand now with C 2518 01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:28,120 Speaker 2: G i and, everything everything is just there's nothing left 2519 01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:31,560 Speaker 2: to the. Imagination but where a young person today would be, like, 2520 01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:32,600 Speaker 2: yeah that that movie. 2521 01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:33,920 Speaker 3: Stucks but BUT. 2522 01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,760 Speaker 4: I think THE cg stuff stuff looks fake to. Me 2523 01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:38,400 Speaker 4: like IF i watch Like Deep Blue, sea. 2524 01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:39,760 Speaker 3: Which is another, SHOW i mean that shock didn't look 2525 01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:43,400 Speaker 3: those shorts. Looks BUT i think you can suspend disbelief 2526 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:44,120 Speaker 3: In that's WHAT i. 2527 01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:48,160 Speaker 2: Mean but nowadays nobody wants to suspend. 2528 01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:50,880 Speaker 3: Joke it's gonna look LIKE i just didn't get it's 2529 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:52,960 Speaker 3: no Humor And, josh what do you mean like all 2530 01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:55,440 Speaker 3: the like the little one liners that you And paul are, 2531 01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:58,160 Speaker 3: dropped those aren't actually. Jokes they're just actually dramatic. 2532 01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:04,040 Speaker 2: Boat that's that would be that would be your college film. 2533 01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,040 Speaker 3: Course there's no humor In. Jaws that's the name of your. 2534 01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:09,480 Speaker 4: Course, WELL i MEAN i, WISH i Wish paul is 2535 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,080 Speaker 4: here because you, know but is there an Actual are 2536 01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:12,960 Speaker 4: there actually any? 2537 01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:16,640 Speaker 3: Jokes like joke jokes and you guys laugh at. Things you, 2538 01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:22,040 Speaker 3: say there's some some joke. 2539 01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,440 Speaker 4: That's supposed to be a. Joke jokes about like the 2540 01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:26,840 Speaker 4: scars and. Stuff there's some joking around going on, there 2541 01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:28,560 Speaker 4: but it's very serious. Movie people are getting eaten by a. 2542 01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:29,560 Speaker 4: Shark they gotta do something about. 2543 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:31,760 Speaker 1: It you. 2544 01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,760 Speaker 3: KNOW i go to The jaws bridge every. Time we got, 2545 01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:35,320 Speaker 3: It we got. 2546 01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,360 Speaker 4: It you like watch The, Matrix you're, like, YEAH i got, 2547 01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:41,520 Speaker 4: it like The Joss. 2548 01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah that's What i'm a bigger. Boat well that's fair, 2549 01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:44,680 Speaker 3: enough fair. 2550 01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,400 Speaker 4: Enough but you, KNOW i think in the, moment Cheap 2551 01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,800 Speaker 4: rody probably was not really thinking about the humor of it. 2552 01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,000 Speaker 3: All he. Was it's probably very scared that he wasn't 2553 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:52,280 Speaker 3: going to make it back To ellen and the. 2554 01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:56,640 Speaker 2: Kids let's, See darius writes In he, SAYS i would 2555 01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:58,880 Speaker 2: love to start off WITH i love you got your 2556 01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:01,960 Speaker 2: guys show and forged And Fox. Bro we haven't really 2557 01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:05,520 Speaker 2: talked about the competition Will campbell will ultimately have to 2558 01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:08,440 Speaker 2: face as a. Rookie could you guys please touch on. 2559 01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,000 Speaker 2: THAT i know it's a long way, away BUT i 2560 01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:11,960 Speaker 2: think it's a good talking. 2561 01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:12,200 Speaker 1: Point. 2562 01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh we Touched Max. 2563 01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:15,760 Speaker 2: Crosby in week. 2564 01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,720 Speaker 3: One if they move him around was opposite. 2565 01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:19,360 Speaker 4: Him, now, though are they gonna what the kid they 2566 01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:21,520 Speaker 4: drafted last? Year pretty, high but it was kind of 2567 01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:26,520 Speaker 4: a bust banking yeah like. Him, yeah you, know maybe 2568 01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,800 Speaker 4: he gets a little bit of a, break BUT i, 2569 01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:29,919 Speaker 4: look every week. 2570 01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,360 Speaker 3: It's gonna be. HARD i, mean he's a rookie. 2571 01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:35,680 Speaker 4: Tackle whether you're gonna Face Max crosby or Just Joe 2572 01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:38,640 Speaker 4: average right, end it's gonna be tough on. 2573 01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:38,680 Speaker 1: Me. 2574 01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,160 Speaker 3: YEAH i think the guy that just in, division Like 2575 01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,680 Speaker 3: Chop robinson From, miami like you worry with reach and 2576 01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:48,320 Speaker 3: things like you worry about speed in particular off the 2577 01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:51,400 Speaker 3: edge being a problem for guys Like Will Campbell's so, 2578 01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,520 Speaker 3: yeah he's gonna See Chop robinson In miami twice a. Year, 2579 01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:55,200 Speaker 3: yeah what About? 2580 01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,760 Speaker 4: Uh AND i didn't see, this BUT i Read shoot 2581 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:02,080 Speaker 4: the kid From arkansas and the land And Jackson land 2582 01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:05,480 Speaker 4: that he had a tough time With Lande jackson who's In, buffalo. 2583 01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:09,120 Speaker 3: Big, long, huge, dude, explosive you, know raw. Rusher that's. 2584 01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:12,040 Speaker 3: One AND i mean this is this division guys you're talking. About, 2585 01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:14,000 Speaker 3: no those are those are the guys you always. 2586 01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,400 Speaker 2: Look even the best have problems at. Times so it's 2587 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,400 Speaker 2: not going to be. Perfect we got our, guy all. 2588 01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,920 Speaker 2: Right we'll be back On thursday at our normal. Time 2589 01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:27,960 Speaker 2: at noon catch twenty two tomorrow at. Noon, yeah we'll talk, Many. 2590 01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:29,760 Speaker 2: Barbay is he doing all? 2591 01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,920 Speaker 3: Right bart's doing all? Right, yeah he's doing. Okay is 2592 01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:34,560 Speaker 3: he taking The celtics as hard as you? 2593 01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:34,760 Speaker 8: Are? 2594 01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:38,960 Speaker 3: No, no, no he definitely. Is i'm out there taking photos. 2595 01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:39,320 Speaker 1: Too oh. 2596 01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,080 Speaker 3: YEAH i mean the kid does. Everything he does. Everything 2597 01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,640 Speaker 3: the first person todget it's private? Club is that For 2598 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,240 Speaker 3: barth dot? Com or is that any? Point? Fun? Now 2599 01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:49,840 Speaker 3: now that's for ninety five BECAUSE i don't want to get. 2600 01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,400 Speaker 3: It it's probably not my place to talk about. It 2601 01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:56,000 Speaker 3: but his his new thing is we're trying to we're 2602 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,680 Speaker 3: starting a gofund me to Get bart To minnesota for joint. 2603 01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,360 Speaker 3: Practices got them to the combine and, said now now 2604 01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,960 Speaker 3: can we get him To minnesota for joint? 2605 01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:09,080 Speaker 2: Practices, well, Listen i'll tell you right, now ninety eight point, 2606 01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,680 Speaker 2: five if you're, listening you hired this guy to cover The, 2607 01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:13,600 Speaker 2: patriots and if you're not going to send him to 2608 01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,440 Speaker 2: joint practices In, minnesota what are you? DOING i, mean 2609 01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,000 Speaker 2: what's it cost? You a couple of nights hotel and? 2610 01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:22,880 Speaker 2: Airfare the kid doesn't. Eat he eats, Football he, eats, 2611 01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:25,160 Speaker 2: sleeps and drinks, football so you have to pay for his. 2612 01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:28,680 Speaker 3: Food he does forget to, eat, yes so. 2613 01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:30,760 Speaker 2: Just just get him a flight in a hotel and 2614 01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:32,840 Speaker 2: send him The Minnesota all, right do the right. Thing, 2615 01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:37,360 Speaker 2: boom all, right we'll see You. Thursday, hey this Is. 2616 01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,200 Speaker 3: Evan thanks for tuning in to the. Show if you 2617 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,480 Speaker 3: really want to help, us make sure to like us 2618 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:45,400 Speaker 3: On Apple, Podcasts, spotify or wherever you get your. 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