1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always 3 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. Shout out to the one 4 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: and only super producer, Max Williams. They call me Ben. Also, 5 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm a lover of dogs, Noel. You and I have 6 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: talked about this before, right about your love of dogs, 7 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: about well, dogs in general. Because the our local hangout 8 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: spot that we when we've been shouting out a lot 9 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: recently is uh, those places are dog friendly. And you know, 10 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: there's there's nothing quite like getting There's this validation that 11 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: I feel when a dog, a random dog like comes 12 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: up and likes me. I'm like, all right, okay, I'm 13 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: doing something absolutely. I mean, it's sort of like that 14 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: trope from science fiction movies where like when the bad 15 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: aliens are coming, the dogs are always the first to know. Yeah, 16 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: really great barometer for all things sinister. So if a 17 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: dog comes up to you and gives you a little 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: nuzzle and lets you pet, it probably means you're relatively 19 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: okay person. Yeah, and you like you you have a cat, 20 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: but you like dogs as well. I think you can't 21 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: stand him. I'm kidding. It takes a particular type of dog. 22 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: There are some dogs that, let's just say, test me 23 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. My girlfriend's dog Jude, who is 24 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: I think like a lab mixed kind of situation. She 25 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: is a little older but just so sweet, and she'll 26 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: like lay down right at the foot of your bed, 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: and you know she she'll bark when there's danger, but 28 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: not overly, so she doesn't freak out for no reason. 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love the idea of a dog as 30 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: a part actor. A dog is a companion, and then 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, like eve dare I say, even like a 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: familiar Yeah, there we go. That's one thing that dogs 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: do very well. They tend to be bonded quite closely 34 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: with their humans. And also they tend to be quite protective. 35 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: In some dog breeds, this is trait that has been 36 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: bred into them purposefully. And it's amazing to see dogs 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: without any kind of like training her education, for instance, 38 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: just sort of naturally start hurting sheep. That's crazy. That's 39 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: crazy specific. But before we begin, I think you're getting 40 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: us a perfect setup. I gotta ask Max, what's your 41 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: pet situation? Man? So I am a very proud cat lover. 42 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: I have I have only one cat right now because 43 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: she's extremely territorial and aggressive with other animals, which is funny. 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: She's eight pounds, solid white, with like a high pitched 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: me out. She's like not intimidating at all, but she 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: has her clothes. She's pathetic. I love her at death. 47 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: I love this cat. No, I think you might know 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: my cat. What's your cat's name? Her name is Sylvia. 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: She's had multiple names throughout the throughout the years. It 50 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: was Germaine. At one point, she was a stray that 51 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: got fount There's a whole story behind my cat. I 52 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: don't know that i've met your cat, Max, but I 53 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: love the idea of a cat with morphing names. I 54 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: once had a cat with two names, Robert and Fernando. Yeah, 55 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: you'd call them different things depending on the situation, Like 56 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: if he was being a bad boy, you did say Robert, 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: and if he was being a sweetie, you'd say, oh, Fernando. Um, 58 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I've got I got. I got a cat with multiple 59 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: names too. He is a cat with a thousand names. 60 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Because when I got him, the folks who were living 61 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: with me, I messed up and I made it democratic 62 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: and uh no one, no one won the vote. So 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: we were just like, this cat has his many names 64 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: at once, but we're not talking about cats at least 65 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: at least nobody named it Catty McCAT face. I'm just 66 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna say that. No, I've got the one cat with 67 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: many names, uh, and one that I referred to as 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: the Colonel, and then another cat named Dr Bankman, which 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: is still like one of my top ten favorite names 70 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: for a pet. Incredible pet name, incredible pet. It's not 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: quite as ah, It's not quite as I would say, 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: as much of a statement as naming a dog. Boy. 73 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: They were talking about uh, an amazing, an amazing little 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: pooch poodle who was sometimes called Puddle and sometimes called Boy. 75 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Very magic dog allegedly and true story scholars site this 76 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: guy as the Well scholars site this dog, I should say, 77 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: as the first ever British military dog. That's right. This 78 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: dog was the best boy of Prince Rupert of the Rhine. 79 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Rupert of the Rhyme was a German nobleman. He went 80 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: on to do all kinds of amazing things that will 81 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: will get to some of uh in today's episode, but 82 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: we're mainly going to talk about his political and military career. Um. 83 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: But he did go on to become an artist and 84 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: a scientist and an inventor. He was the nephew of 85 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: King Charles the First of England and cousin, uh first 86 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: cousin rather of King Charles the Second of England. So 87 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: he was in the mix with these royals, and he 88 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: was introduced into a military life very very young, I 89 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: believe around the age of thirteen and sixteen thirty three 90 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: when he began his tenure in the military during the 91 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Thirty Years War. Yeah, he was a child soldier, that's 92 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: what we call it today. Uh. This war had a 93 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: personal toll on him because it resulted in his father, 94 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: Frederick Elector Palatine and briefly the King of Bohemia, losing 95 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: his crown. And so he's he's growing up in times 96 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: of war. And during one of the wars he took 97 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: part in when he was still very young, he was 98 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: around seventeen or so, it's the Thirty Years War in Germany. 99 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: He fought against the Holy Roman Empire and he was captured. 100 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: But because you know, he was well to do and 101 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: from the ruling class, he had a little bit different 102 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: treatment as a pownal. He was locked up in a 103 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: castle in Austria, the Lens Castle, and the main thing 104 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: that his captors wanted from him was not necessarily like 105 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: a ransom or you know, political cloud. Their main issue 106 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: was they wanted to convert him from Calvinism to Catholicism. 107 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: So like every day they come in and they say, 108 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: feeling Catholic. That's a hard pass. But the puritanical nature 109 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: of Rupert's opponents in these battles is really what leads 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: to the kind of propaganda around him and his dog 111 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: in particular, uh, he gets he's actually gifted this uh, 112 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: this white poodle which is actually bred to be unting dog. 113 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: They were bred to retrieve ducks, you know, or other 114 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, game birds, you know, when they were shot 115 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: down over water usually and they're kind of little velcro 116 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: like curls that you see. I mean, you know, obviously 117 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: poodles can be groomed in bizarre and elaborate ways, but 118 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: typically just like a short hair pood poodle that doesn't 119 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: have like pom poms shaved into it, have these curly, 120 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: almost knit like coats, very dance exactly and very good 121 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: for keeping them warm but also increasing their buoyancy, which 122 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: allowed them to be very very effective at retrieving those birds. Yeah. Yeah, 123 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: and at this point a bit of foreshadowing ridiculous historians. 124 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: It is important to note that while he was incarcerated, 125 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: some soldiers from the Austrian side started spreading these rumors 126 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: that Rupert had super natural abilities, what we would call 127 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: superhuman abilities today, but to them this was the result 128 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: of magic. He was invulnerable to bullets, what they called 129 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: shots free. They said they had like fired at him 130 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: point blank range, and it wasn't that their weaponry was flawed. 131 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: It was that this guy was somehow immune to bullets, 132 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: which is a nice it's a nice rumor to have 133 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: about you, although it could come back to to bite you. 134 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: As I'm gonna, I'm gonna test this theory out, um 135 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: blast this guy at point blank range. And that's exactly 136 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: what that was claimed. Was claimed that he could take 137 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: shots up close and and still you know, walk away unscathed. 138 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: I love the idea of shot free being kind of 139 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: an old timey version of bulletproof, you know. Yeah. And 140 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: and they thought this is the thing though, they didn't 141 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: just make this up out a whole cloth, right, People 142 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: really believed throughout you know, the area at this time, 143 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: they really believed there was possible to use magic to 144 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: make yourself shot free, let's say shot free instead of bulletproof. 145 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: I like that totally, really quickly, right up front, just 146 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: want to list some amazing sources that we used for 147 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: this episode. We've got History Extra an article called the 148 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Prince and his Devil Dog, and this is a piece 149 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: actually for the BBC's History Magazine and also BBC History Revealed. 150 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: We have a lovely little article from the Vintage News 151 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: about Boy the magical dog of Prince Rupert of the rhyme, 152 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and we also have a great one from Alice Obscura, 153 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: one of our favorites. Five years later, English school children 154 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: still learn about a magic propaganda dog by Eric Grundhauser. 155 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: And a few others that will list along the way, 156 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: but those are the big ones I'd like to shout 157 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: out some specifically. Mark Style also wrote a book about this, 158 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: uh called I'm not going to give the full title 159 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: till the end, but it's called The Black Legend of 160 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Prince Rupert's Dog. And then there's a there's a book 161 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: will pull a little bit from that was published in 162 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: sixteen forty three called Observations upon Prince Rupert's white dog 163 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: called Boy keefully taken by tea be for the purpose 164 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: employed by for some of quality in the city of London. 165 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: I'm reading from a very old copy. Yeah, I believe 166 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: that's a pamphlet. And part of this propaganda wars you 167 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: start to see waged against Rupert and his dog Boy. 168 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: So he gets the dog and immediately they are inseparable 169 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: like his is by his side, brings it to several battles. Um, 170 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: he really starts to get involved in the in this 171 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: campaign against parliament. Right, yeah, yeah, let's let's talk a 172 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: little bit about how how Boy gets on the scene. So, 173 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: like we said, because of his high social status, Rupert 174 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: is being treated better than your garden variety prisoner. And 175 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: there's a guy, an Englishman named the Earl of Arundel, 176 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: who is an old old friend of the family, and 177 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: he says, you know what's gonna help Rupert out here? 178 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: He might feel a little less less uh down on 179 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: himself if he has some companies. So I'm gonna send 180 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: him a puppy. Uh. This was a different time. I 181 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: hope everybody knows today that if you send, if you 182 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: give someone a dog as a gift, unless you know 183 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: explicitly what kind of dog they want, and they've said it, 184 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: then you're not giving them a gift, you're giving them 185 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: a responsibility. But this, this was a different circumstance. And uh, 186 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: the reason I said this guy and then changed it 187 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: to this dog is because even though they named the 188 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: dog Boy, she was female and like Noel said, she is, 189 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: she was down to ride. She was ride or die 190 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: for Rupert, that was her human. And you can see 191 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: these accounts of Rupert and Boy going on hunts together. 192 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: It's very Pixar, you know what I mean. It's very 193 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: like first act of a Disney or Pixar film. So 194 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: they know that, like you had said earlier, No, they 195 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: know that this was definitely a working dog, a hunting dog, 196 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: because there are stories about the dog helping him, you know, 197 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: hunt deer and whatnot. But this is important because it 198 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: carries onto Boy's behavior in war, right, like that those 199 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: same sets of skills are helping helping Boy. I want 200 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: to say, but also I have to ask do you think, 201 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: like how active do you think Boy really was? As 202 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: we'll see, this is kind of a tough question to answer. 203 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's like it would take 204 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: some really specific training to train a poodle, uh to 205 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: two more than retrieved ducks, you know, to actually like 206 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: attack and go for the throat. But they are all 207 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: these like woodcuts of Prince Rupert and Boy where he 208 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: was so his brand right, it was like so tied 209 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: to this dog that you knew just from like they're 210 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of proximity in these images, um who we were 211 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: dealing with. He invades the city of Birmingham and actually 212 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: sets fire to to several houses, and Boy is apparently 213 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: by his side during that battle. And you have images 214 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: of this that actually have to name the city of 215 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: Birmingham like in text in the background, even though there's 216 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: the fires. So like the burning and the sacking of 217 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: that city was less iconic than the man himself. And this, 218 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, this devil dog. Oftentimes it's portrayed like a crazy, 219 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: ferocious black lion in some images. Weird that they get 220 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: the color so off. I mean, that's obviously for creative license, 221 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, there were two poodles. Actually, that's part 222 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: of one of the one of the stories is that 223 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: he was given two poodles, one of whom had a 224 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: black coat and died early on, so might explain some 225 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: of it, but we should also mention Rupert did get 226 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: out of prison in one and that's where and you 227 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: know boy went with him and maybe that other poodle, 228 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: and that's when he started, you know, just pillaging across 229 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: across Europe and and people people would see this on 230 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: the battlefield and they would, uh, they started making this 231 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: very effective propaganda about this. It's centered on the dog. 232 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not like Rupert did do messed up 233 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: stuff like you said in April sixte Uh. He was 234 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: setting fire to houses in Birmingham, and you know his 235 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: dog is right there with him. And so these propaganda 236 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: pamphlets start to come out, and one of them is 237 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: a true relation Prince Rupert's barbarous cruelty against the town 238 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: of Birmingham. Yeah, the old only English. Let's just also 239 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: really quickly, just get a few terms straight. Not to 240 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: be labor it too much. We don't want to get 241 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: to um in the weeds here. But this was the 242 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: English Civil War, and this was a conflict between parliamentarians 243 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: and royalists, Parliamentarians being people that were loyal to parliament 244 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: and royalists being people that were loyal to royals. Uh. 245 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: And obviously Prince Rupert was firmly in that camp, given 246 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: his proximity and relation to all of these royal bloodlines. Yeah, yeah, 247 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: and there this is an information war, Make no mistake, 248 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: parliament supporters. We're trying to spread word about Rupert as 249 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: like a villain and non trustworthy, bloodthirsty dude. And they 250 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: also if you look at the wood cuts, which are 251 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: freely available online, if you look at the wood cuts 252 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: of Boy B A y E by the way, you 253 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: will see something that looks a lot less like a 254 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: poodle today and much more closely resembles a wolf like creature. 255 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: It's the kind of if you have ever had a 256 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: nightmare about a poodle. I think we're speaking to a 257 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: very specific part of the audience today, but if you've 258 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: ever had a poodle related nightmare, this is a nightmare poodle. 259 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: It's like whomever was drawing these pamphlets or creating these 260 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: wood cuts made Boy look more like a lion, wouldn't 261 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: you say? And it's it's probably bigger than it actually 262 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: was for sure. Like I said, there's lots of these 263 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: where there's definitely some styling going on, whether some of 264 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: them were depicting previous poodle or not. Um, they're all 265 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: pretty ferocious looking. And again there were these pamphlets let's 266 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: let's not forget this is a war against Parliament, and 267 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: there there's lots of different sex but I think that 268 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: the main cause of the Civil War was people who 269 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: are loyal to the royalists King Charles the first and 270 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the second, and people who are loyal to Parliament, and 271 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: so that was where the beef came from. And so 272 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: Parliament was understandably trying to win over the hearts and 273 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: minds of the people, not only painting Rupert is this 274 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: kind of elitist royal sympathizer, but also literally like a 275 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: witch or demon of some kind, you know, with this 276 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: uh familiar devil dog at his side. Yeah, yeah, he was. 277 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: He was presented as a warlock, one who trafficked in 278 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: the occult and he was also called a shape shifter, 279 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: and these devilish bowers were attributed to him. This was 280 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: pretty effective during sixty two. Before he's burning Birmingham and 281 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: he's already been an agent of chaos across the land. 282 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: And during early hundreds and hundreds of pamphlets were printed 283 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: every single month to either talk trash about the king's friends, 284 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: which includes rupert or exalt the king's foes and make 285 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: them look good and noble and just so these claims 286 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: were made when we have to remember the majority of 287 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: people definitely just assumed witchcraft was a thing, even if 288 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: they didn't know too much about it. Like if the 289 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: the four of us, Uh, Noel, Max, Me and you 290 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: listening along at home, if we were back in that 291 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: time and we said, hey, I think somebody this just 292 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: point a random person, I think they might be a witch, 293 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, and other people would say, uh, I don't. Yeah, 294 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: they're definitely out there, which is here a thing? Everybody agreed, 295 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: which is there a thing? So if you look at 296 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: the pamphlets, you see what the mission of the propaganda is. 297 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: It's to make people think that anyone who sides with 298 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: the Royalist is siding with the infernal powers. Like they're 299 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: trying to make you think it's the same thing as 300 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: supporting Lucifer or Satan and the opposition to the Royalists 301 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: were referred to, or at least one sect of them 302 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: were referred to as round heads. By the way, also 303 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: the Royalists and and Bruper they were referred to as 304 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: cavaliers because they apparently they their dress kind of was 305 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: reminiscent of the Couble arrows and Spain and just the 306 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of like look of their kind of flowy silks 307 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: and their whole garb or whatever. And then you had 308 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: supporters of Parliament, um were often referred to as round heads. 309 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: And then you also had a group under Oliver Cromwell, 310 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: who you know, you know, absolutely meant business was about 311 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: as puritanical as they come. His men were known as 312 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: iron Sides. That makes me think of the actor Michael Ironsides. Yeah. 313 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: And then of course there was Parliament Funkadelic, which is 314 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: where the name of the band comes from, and if 315 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: you think about it, most of their songs are about 316 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: the English Civil War. Then I can't tell if you're 317 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: joking or not, but I love it either way, and 318 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: I do know you're joking. Parliament the underrated band that 319 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: people think of like only the George Clinton era, like 320 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: the really like spaceship kind of you know vibe. Their 321 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: album Maggot Brain is actually like a total psychedelic masterpiece. 322 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: Highly recommend if you have it. Checked that one out. 323 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: But okay, so we got your roundheads right, and they 324 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: were considered by the Royalists to be kind of dulty, right, 325 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: like a little bit slow on the uptake, So they 326 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: actually started writing their own propaganda. It was really interesting 327 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: flex it was almost like a like a sat was satire, 328 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: but it was satire masquerading as actual propaganda against their 329 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: own cause. So the Royalists were writing up these pamphlets 330 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: that were very similar to the ones the roundheads were 331 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: putting out to try to, you know, turn public opinion 332 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: against this devil dog and you know, Luciferian master. But 333 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: they would write these things that were almost so outlandish 334 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: they were feeding the room or mill. Uh. They knew 335 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: what they were doing, and it was a way of 336 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: mocking their you know, their enemies. But I think it 337 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: may have done I don't know, Like do you how 338 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: this seems like a good thing. If people are really 339 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: starting to believe this stuff, it could strike fear into 340 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: the hearts of people that would like, you know, meet 341 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: him in battle, you know, Rupert and and uh and 342 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: uh and and boy in battle. Yeah. Yeah, Because now 343 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: the information has spread such that even if you read 344 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, let's say your roundhead and you're like, oh, okay, 345 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: this is this is a little far there are witches, 346 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 1: but I don't know if this guy's which. And then 347 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, knowing this information, you see him 348 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: in person on the on the battlefield, and you see 349 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: boy accompanying him. You might think, uh, I don't know, 350 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: is he shot free? Because now the rubbers hitting the road. 351 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: I love the satire though, because there's this one Royalist 352 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: poet that's that we found in the Atlas Obscura article 353 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier. His name is John Cleveland, and he 354 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: is probably the source of the beginning like comedic response 355 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: to the parliamentary and propaganda is. He has this poem 356 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: that he wrote called to Prince Rupert, which we've read. 357 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: You can find it online. Well, we're not gonna read 358 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: it right now because it is it is very long. 359 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: It is not a radio friendly poem if you look 360 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: at it, but it's it's funny the way that it 361 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: the way that it traces, uh, the powers attributed to Rupert. Anyway, 362 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: So there are two fronts of this war. There's an 363 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: information war and then there's the actual war. The King 364 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: tried to take London in November sixty two. He was 365 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: not able to do this successfully and he had to 366 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: return back to Oxford. And when this occurred, John Cleveland 367 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: hits back again. He's sort of like a maybe like 368 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: a John Oliver esque figure. You know, he's lampooning people, 369 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: and he writes a satirical poem that mocks the Roundheads 370 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: for being dumb enough to believe that Rupert has magic powers, 371 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: and he says, you know, the Roundheads all believe this 372 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: guy is a witch. They're all convinced that the Prince's 373 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: dog Boy is his familiar, a demon in the shape 374 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: of an animal, and this gives him this may indeed 375 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: be one of the sources of his power. Speaking of 376 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: his powers, yeah, his powers are Upert's uh boys. Um specifically, 377 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean that this list started to grow and grow 378 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: and it got real specific. Um Again, we've mentioned the 379 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: idea that we people believe Rupert was a shape shifter. Oh, 380 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: not to mention that there was heavily implied in some 381 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: of these pamphlets. And then something that I didn't even 382 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: realize is apparently heavily implied in general with witches or 383 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: warlocks and they're familiars. Is that. Yeah, Rupert was definitely 384 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: having sex with Boy. Yeah, it was about there. There's 385 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: a there's an expression. There's something in one of these 386 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: pamphlets that says that describes them as laying together, sometimes 387 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: with Rupert upon boy and sometimes Boy upon Rupert's Uh. 388 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: So the yeah, you could cut that innu window with 389 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: a giant broadsword or something. Um. But so again obviously 390 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: intended to demean uh and to other and to make 391 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: Rupert into some sort of pariah, you know, or them 392 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: that people would be like, this guy is unnatural. He's 393 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, evil in every way. But the dog had 394 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: these the following powers. Um, my favorite is that possessed 395 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: it was polylingual and possessed the ability to speak in 396 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: a quote mixed language. Uh m I x T love 397 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: the old English spellings somewhere between Hebrew and High Dutch. Okay, interesting. Um, 398 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: he could see the future or she could see the future. 399 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: So it's really confusing when you got a dog called 400 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: boy that's a not a boy at all. That she 401 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: could prophecy or to or predict the future. We've also 402 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: got yeah, we've already we've already mentioned being invulnerable, uh 403 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: two bullets and and just all around you know, godlike 404 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: and it's uh ability to withstand attack. Yeah, also could 405 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: find hidden treasure that was one of the powers attributed 406 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: to Boy. Also a couple of things these are coming 407 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: from John Cleveland, by the way, a lot of these 408 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: these are coming from a royalist. Uh, it's the definition 409 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: of a moment because he is a Roundheads are dumb. 410 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: They believe the following about this dog. But some of 411 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: the things he describes sound more like very specific political 412 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: jokes or very specific tricks that Boy was trained to do. 413 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: Like there's the idea that if you say the name Pim, 414 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: that boy will lift her leg like she's gonna pee 415 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: on him. And then there's the idea that if you 416 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: ever say the word Charles around Boy, uh, the dog 417 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: will immediately quote come aloft for whomever says that, Wait, 418 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: does that mean like come at them? I think so. 419 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: I think so. I think it means a come for you. 420 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: So it's like a dog that just goes beast mode 421 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: whenever here's but Charles. But I thought I thought Boy 422 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: liked Charles. I thought we were in Charles's camp. I know, 423 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was like a Charles and Charged situation. 424 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: But but yeah, or maybe it means I come aloft. 425 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: As a little vague right for us, you may mean 426 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: that the dog just runs up to you and it 427 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: is your buddy. But may mean it's a flying tackle 428 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: they have, but maybe okay, like maybe it's like a 429 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: loving Dino to Fred Flintstone type tackle. You know what 430 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean? Um, I love this one. It's just so simple. 431 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: The power to inflict death or injury on those who 432 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: had wronged him, Yes, exactly. Uh. This so this was 433 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: a big hit with other royalists. They thought it was 434 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: hilarious because they also said, yeah, we get it. Roundheads 435 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: are dumb. And by January it was apparently common for 436 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: supporters of the king when they're all around drinking right 437 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: to cheers to Prince Rupert's dog, so he'd be like, 438 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: cheers the y boy. I guess I just wanted to 439 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: throw a ye in there. He's fun, it's a good 440 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: one and I like eat as well. Unrelated, so surely, 441 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this probably worked, right, I mean this, Uh, 442 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: these rumors that the royalists themselves started about, boy, I 443 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: mean I was taken in by it. I'm like, this 444 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: is the fun stuff to repeat. Did you hear about 445 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: the dog with the power to prevent others from making 446 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: rational decisions by making them impotent in their minds. Have 447 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: you heard of this been It totally sounds like it 448 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: checks out, totally seems legit. Terrified of this boy, Um, 449 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't he have the powers of the shadow from 450 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: the golden era of radio and comics? Right, he can 451 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: cloudman's mind? She boy can't? She boy can't. The last 452 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: one on the list is she possesses the power to 453 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: move you right that this is just a tribute. It 454 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: is the greatest to the greatest dog in the world. 455 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: So whatever of these you know, uh powers that the 456 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: round has. The parliamentarians actually believed they They definitely seemed 457 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: to be some stock put in this idea that Boy 458 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: and Rupert were of the devil were in some way, um, 459 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: wielding the black arts, you know, on the battlefield, and 460 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: it really got out of hands, it did. It did 461 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: because it started like imagine, it's the definition of not 462 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: getting the joke. Like imagine you saw a late night 463 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: monologue right from one of the late night hosts and 464 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: someone said, oh, yeah, no, this is whatever they're saying 465 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: is absolutely absolutely true, and you said, no, no, part 466 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: of it's true, but this part is the joke, and 467 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: they were like, you are a fool this This is 468 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: completely true. Why else would they bother to put it 469 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: on television? This stuff spread, people were like, why else 470 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: would someone bother to print it if it's not true? 471 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: And we have to keep in mind a lot of 472 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: people already wanted to hate this rupert guy. So if 473 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: you already want to dislike someone it doesn't like, you're 474 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: gonna be very open to stuff that confirms your opinion. 475 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: One of my favorites was that the idea that boy 476 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: was not a dog at all, but in fact to 477 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: quote lapland lady, meaning the Sami people of northern Europe, 478 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: and this area was infamous for its quote unquote, which 479 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: is because of the traditional practices of those people. But 480 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: as you said, the joke goes so out of hand. 481 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: Parliamentarians totally have that woosh moment. They don't get it. 482 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: They start to think that it is factual information. The 483 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: common folk, including some supporters of the Royalists, start believing 484 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: these rumors. It's like they were realing Mad magazine for 485 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: news kind of That's how that's how weird it got. 486 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: And the people who didn't take witchcraft seriously on the 487 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: Royalist side still thought it was hilarious. But eventually it 488 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: backfired and Boy gained a real reputation as a supernatural familiar. 489 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: People genuinely believed this and this pre existing association with witchcraft. 490 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: By being allegedly shot free, it didn't help tamp the 491 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: fire down right. Let' let's not forget. I mean it 492 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: was Rupert was already considered to be pretty witchy in 493 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: his own right before the dog even even came on 494 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: the scene. So the Royalists, though, really looked at Rupert 495 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: as this kind of symbol right of of of their 496 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: superiority on the battlefield, their whole brand right, and the 497 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: dog would be by his side. I mean the Rupert 498 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: was in fact a absolute beast on the battlefield. He 499 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: was a very very sharp tactician. Um he knew how 500 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: to sack, he knew how to pillage, and he could 501 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 1: like do no wrong. I mean, he was loved by 502 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: his troops because he was out there on the front 503 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: lines with them and with Boy and Boy in particular. 504 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: It's so incredibly popular word of mouth of this magical dog. 505 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: Again on their side, they're not calling it a devil dog. 506 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: They're calling it a magical dog. You know, I was 507 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: spreading all around Europe and the powers. This notion, these 508 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: powers even reached Murad the Fourth, uh, the Sultan of 509 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire, who said, you know what, I want 510 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: to give me one of those. Yeah, the Sultan, he's 511 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: at the point where you can just hear stuff and 512 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: say I want one of those. Make it so, you know, 513 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: kind of like kind of like the way Prince was 514 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: able to make ridiculous demands and people would just follow 515 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: through with it. I'm talking about Prince the musical legend. Uh, 516 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: not European Prince, but this the Sultan was like that 517 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: was quite well to do, of course, and boy even 518 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: got the rank of sergeant. Made your general. She was 519 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: a mascot. She was a supporter on the battlefields. This 520 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: is this is a pattern we see in a lot 521 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: of militaries across human history. Animals, whether they're wild or 522 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: whether they belong to some specific person, end up becoming 523 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: these mascots and people people like having an animal on 524 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: their side or just hanging out cats. Uh, did we 525 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: ever do an episode on various military animals? I want 526 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: to someone to do it on military cats, in particular 527 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: military cats. Yeah, let's do it, let's do It's gotta 528 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: be some weird military cat, but probably belonging to a Frenchman. Yeah, 529 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, it depends on the cat. I think we're 530 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: talking big cats. To be dope, to have a tiger 531 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: on your side. We just we we gotta work out 532 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: the logistics. But they're probably, to your point, Nold, probably 533 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: house cats. As this continues, royalists still think this is hilarious. 534 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: Roundheads are starting to get superstitious and genuinely believe that 535 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: boy has these powers. But we're taking a turn, Max. 536 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: Can we get some you know, like the music in 537 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: the third act of it Pixar Disney film where it 538 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: gets kind of serious. Yeah, there it is, Okay, let's 539 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: bring it down a lot. Yeah. So on July one, four, 540 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: Rupert's troops are coming into support the Royalist in York 541 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: and this is currently held by the Marquess of Newcastle. 542 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: The next day, Rupert and Newcastle put themselves in position 543 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: in a place west of York called Marston Moore, and 544 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: they prepare themselves for battle most of the day. If 545 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: you've been in a combat situation, you're probably familiar with this. 546 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: It's surprising how you can spend a lot of time 547 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: waiting just kind of waiting around for something to happen. 548 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: And that's what they did for most of the day. 549 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: But from what we understand, in the early evening, forces 550 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: commanded by a Lord Fairfax, the Earl of Manchester in 551 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: the Earl of Levin, got together. They vultron up and 552 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: they launched a surprise attack. They had the advantage in numbers, 553 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: and they had the advantage in training. The troops were 554 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: both better prepared and outnumbering the royalist, so they absolutely 555 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: mopped the floor with him. They the parliamentarians, won this battle. 556 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: Rupert during the battle, his horses shot under him, and 557 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: so he hides in a field of beans, which feels 558 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: like a piece of folklore, doesn't it. But that's what 559 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: he does, does it really does? And you know, the 560 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: pamphlets kept coming, and one of them that came out 561 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: later that month Um said the following He said, a 562 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 1: valle and Soda, who had skill in necromancy, saw boy 563 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: and killed the dog, possibly shooting in with a brass button, 564 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: which was like a consider I guess, like a silver 565 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: bullet kind of situation, like werewolf fools, and I was 566 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: supposed to be it was supposed to be a magical weapon. 567 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: I guess is the implication the real story feels. Accounts differ, 568 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: but it looks like when they were fighting, Boy had 569 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: been tied up in the Royalist camp but somehow got 570 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: free and went to find went to find Rooper her person, 571 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: but she didn't make it, and it turns out that 572 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: sadly she was not bullet proof and expired on the 573 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: field of battle. No one sure what happened to Boy's body. 574 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: But back to Mark style, he has an interesting suggestion. 575 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: He says, you know what, if the parliamentary and soldiers 576 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: knew that this poodle was Boy, wouldn't they have wanted 577 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: to take the body with them as a trophy because 578 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: it's the most it is the most famous dog in 579 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: England at the time by far. Sorry, there's I don't 580 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: even know if there's a second place. Well, you gotta 581 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: wonder too if maybe there was a sense that they 582 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: could honess his abilities even in death. I don't know. 583 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: Maybe they were may maybe I'm just have read too 584 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: much fantasy and sci fi. And a fun fact, Boy 585 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: was actually one of the oldest living London dogs that 586 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: have been detailed in historical records of the time. Um 587 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: and that because it had very specific data about its birth, breed, color, 588 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: and the exact date of his death. Yeah. Yeah, and 589 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: this story is still told today to a lot of 590 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: school kids in England. But according to Mark Style, all 591 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: we have really we don't have a ton of evidence. 592 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: All we have our fragments of evidence and the propagandist 593 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: campaign about the dog. So this is this, this whole 594 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: kerfuffle is kind of fake news, at least in the 595 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: propaganda aspect of it. And and it didn't stop. That's 596 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: the thing. When Boy passed away, unfortunately, very sad. When 597 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: Boy passed away, propagandists printing pamphlets about this they did. 598 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it was good fodder, you know, it was. 599 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: It did gave folks something to fear and despise. Oh 600 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: and this is when he turns black. Aha, Okay, maybe 601 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: it's because it was you know, somehow reanimated, unholy or 602 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: something like that, you know, come from the Great Beyond, 603 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: sort of like when Gandalf becomes goes from Gandalf the 604 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: Grade a Gandolf the White, you know, but like in 605 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: reverse I could see that, So yeah, I get like 606 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: black Philip. For example, the the demonic goat in the 607 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: film The David Agger's film or the Robert Actors film 608 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: rather the Witch, So that makes sense. It was really 609 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,479 Speaker 1: kind of leaning into this whole idea of it being 610 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: a a satanic demon from from the pit. So yeah, 611 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: we actually have a publication of one of those pamphlets 612 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: that we have a record of called a Dog's Elegy 613 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: or Rupert's Tears, and that was published in July secon 614 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: six and sort of starts to build on that mythology 615 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: because apparently you know, History mag the BBC piece that 616 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: we referenced as it really makes a really great point 617 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: that in death the dog was even more useful than 618 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: in life for this propaganda war because now they could 619 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: say whatever they wanted about it. There would be no 620 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: way for anyone to question it or or have it 621 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: be backed up. Um. It was absolutely just the perfect 622 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: storm of like you know, generating these like larger than 623 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: life stories about this uh, this cursed creature um. And 624 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: so the royalists they never really seemed to mention boy 625 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: again because I think for them, they realize that they're 626 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: joke kind of backfired and now the you know, parliamentarian 627 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: Um pamphleteers were using this against them even still, so 628 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: I think they were probably just like kind of tired 629 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,959 Speaker 1: of it at that point. Yeah, and it also would 630 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: probably feel like bad form to continue propaganda for this 631 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: poor guy's dog, because Ruper is still alive, is still alive, 632 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: So he was probably sad about this, you know, and 633 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: all his people I think that they didn't want to 634 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: maybe didn't want to, you know, pour salt on the wound. Yeah. 635 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: So sixty six, as you know, Royalist cause collapses, Rupert 636 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: high tails it for the European continent, and eventually, after 637 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: the restoration of the monarchy, he returns to England and 638 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: he is buried at Westminster Abbey in sixteen eighty two. 639 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: By this time, boy is old old news and no 640 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: one is really talking about this pooch until the eighteenth 641 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: and twenty century when scholars rediscover the satirical text of 642 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: John Cleveland. And you have to think this is something 643 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: that soil ask in history. Extra You have to think 644 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: how tickled John Cleveland would have been to know that 645 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: the joke he started way back in sixteen forty two 646 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 1: would still be around today. Luckily we have a better 647 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: understanding of it. Of course. You know, while I've yet 648 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: to see a magic dog, if you have one or 649 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: proof of one. I think we'd all love to see it. 650 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: If you have a dog that can change shape, that's 651 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, do a little video clip all here please? 652 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: Oh man, you can send all of that and more 653 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: to us in our apparently working email, which is ridiculous 654 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: at I heart media dot com. Thanks as always to 655 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: our super producer Max Williams thinks as well to Casey Pegram. 656 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: Thanks to our own devil Dog, Jonathan Stricklands, a k a. 657 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: The Quister, who I have a feeling will be returning suit. 658 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: There's a restaurant in my hometown of Augusta, Georgia called 659 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: Knuckle Sandwiches. I've always thought a very cute name, and 660 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: they do a really fantastic spicy hot dog called a 661 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: devil Dog. I'mnna have to ask if it was named 662 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: after boy that be hilarious person who you're talking to. 663 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: The restaurant owner says, yes, you know, really, I only 664 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: run a restaurant to support my primary love, which is 665 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: learning more of the English Civil War. I think we 666 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: need more history themed restaurants were like each you know, 667 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: I love a food item in some way teaches you 668 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: a lesson about history. Revolution, revolution, and let us know 669 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: your history themed restaurant ideas or any food related history puns. 670 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: Again ridiculous. I heart media dot com so happy that 671 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: it exists, going to say one more time ridiculous at 672 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: I heeart media dot com. You can also set us 673 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: up on social media individually. I am how now Noel 674 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: Brown on Instagram. You can learn more about my misadventures 675 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: my ongoing research where I am at Ben Bullen on Instagram. Also, 676 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: I got a bone to pick with you guys, because 677 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: I went to the trouble of getting that email address 678 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: set up and I don't think I'm getting it, so 679 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to fix it. But word 680 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: on the street is Max and Noel can see them, 681 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: so I know, I know you sent that test the 682 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: other day and it came right through to me and 683 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: Max that is absurd. We'll give it a try, ridiculous historians. 684 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully Ben will get them, and if he doesn't, I 685 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: must you've been We will forward them to you immediately. 686 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: But let's get to the bottom of a big big 687 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: thanks to Eaves, Jeff Cope, Big thanks to Christopher hascy 688 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: Otis Big Big thanks to boy or Puddle a shoe 689 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: is sometimes called uh you just you can't beat having 690 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: a cruel dog, you know, it's it's something to aspire to. 691 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: I'd love to see people's dog pictures over on the 692 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: Facebook page Ridiculous Historians. We'll see you next time, folks. 693 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: For more podcasts for My Heart Radio, visit the I 694 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 695 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.