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Speaker 1: Right down our toll free telephone number. It's eight one, Sean.

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Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the program. I

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Speaker 1: do get clarity when I am on vacation. You know,

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Speaker 1: my mind begins to slow down. I begin to think

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Speaker 1: things through. I begin, I know, you begin to see

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Speaker 1: more clearly, because look, every one of us experiences this.

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Speaker 1: This is not a phenomenon because I am a talk

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Speaker 1: show host, but you know what it's like. You get

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Speaker 1: you know, you're in the daily bang it out, grind, grind, grind, grind,

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Speaker 1: a country while in fact I was off these few days. Um,

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Speaker 1: we have an amazing amount of news. To get to.

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Speaker 1: The biggest tragedy that I saw since I was gone,

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Speaker 1: is you have a such a corrupt news media in

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Speaker 1: this country they cannot even acknowledge a simple basic fundamental

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Speaker 1: truth about spies being in the Trump campaign. There were spies, No,

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Speaker 1: their their informants. Okay, they're spies, and they were there

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Speaker 1: for one reason, to spy on the Trump campaign. You know,

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Speaker 1: I love Rudy Giuliani, Who's gonna be on TV tonight

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Speaker 1: just blasting now the Mueller probe for what it is,

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Speaker 1: illegitimate and you've gotten he's now right at the top

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Speaker 1: one of the topic. Now, lawyers for the president. You know,

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Speaker 1: since Mueller's Mueller's Russia Gate investigation was based on illegal

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Speaker 1: leaks by a disgrace, the probably likely lawbreaker, former x

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Speaker 1: FBI director James Comey, as well as you know, politically

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Speaker 1: motivated surveillance carried out by trumpeting Obama officials. You know,

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Speaker 1: it has now lost any sense, if you have any

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Speaker 1: you know it, this is one big, colossal deep state mess.

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Speaker 1: There's no there, There should be never be any cooperation

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Speaker 1: the High Court would reject any attempt by Mueller disapoina

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Speaker 1: I agree with Julianni, and he said the Trump camp

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Speaker 1: It has now become a total fishing expedition. You know,

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Speaker 1: And York obtained extensive comments from two out of the

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Speaker 1: That's somebody that's actively seeking information that would make such

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Speaker 1: to him as the professor, offered a range of possibilities

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Speaker 1: regarding how he and the university might be able to help. Well,

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Speaker 1: he said he worked on all these other campaigns policy director.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you think he can help? And his behavior

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Speaker 1: according to Comey's original draft, six foreign entities got into

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Speaker 1: Hillary's email server. Who knows who has what from where?

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Speaker 1: football or to do a weird dance in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: If you want to do a weird dance in the

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Speaker 1: end zone, you know what. I'm sticking with college football.

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Speaker 1: I've had with a whole bunch of them. It looks

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Speaker 1: like there on and off again. North Korea summit is

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Speaker 1: back on, although not officially, but we have a top

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Speaker 1: in Singapore, and King Kim is reaffirmed to the South

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Speaker 1: Korean president that in fact, the nuclearization is what this

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Speaker 1: is about and amazing, And everybody was making fun of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's letter. Donald Trump, you already got the hostages,

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Speaker 1: already got the missiles to be stopped firing. He already

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Speaker 1: got Kim Jong gun to cross the d m Z

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Speaker 1: hostages freed. We already won. And he didn't drop off

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Speaker 1: one any in a planeload cargo plane full of cash.

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Speaker 1: We lost nothing. Oh, this is like a love letter.

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Speaker 1: I'm like sports spurned lovers here, I'm like this. People

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Speaker 1: are so dumb in the media. Um, this is a

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Speaker 1: great observation by Andrew McCarthy. Will get into this with

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Speaker 1: Sarah Carter in the next hour. We also have Carter

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Speaker 1: Page coming up that Obama administration officials in the DJ

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Speaker 1: and the mp I saw the cases as inseparable, meaning

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Speaker 1: the investigation into Hillary and the phony Trump Russia investigation.

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Speaker 1: It's the same players. And he reminds us he went

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Speaker 1: back to the page Struck text and page texting Struck

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Speaker 1: about the most stunning development was Donald Trump, you know,

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Speaker 1: square off against Hillary Clinton, and the race was set.

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Speaker 1: And Struck wrote that what maybe the only words, Andy

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Speaker 1: McCarthy rights, we need to know, words that reflect the

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Speaker 1: mindset of his agency's leadership and the Obama administration. Quote,

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Speaker 1: now the pressure really starts to finish m y E

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Speaker 1: midyear exam. That was the code word the FBI had

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Speaker 1: given to the Hillary Clinton email probe, just like they

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Speaker 1: gave to the Trump investigation, Operation Crossfire. Hurricane Page responds

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Speaker 1: that short does now she wasn't just any lawyer, as

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Speaker 1: Andy points out, she was the bureau's number two official,

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Speaker 1: the lawyer for Andrew McCabe. And you've got these thousands

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Speaker 1: of text messages. We know how they feel about Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: but it does matter. You can't say, well, the people

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Speaker 1: are allowed to have their own political opinions. That's not

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Speaker 1: the point. You can't be investigating people that you hate

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Speaker 1: and another that you love and impacting the the candidates

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Speaker 1: for a presidential election, which is what they did. The

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Speaker 1: mid year exam was exactly that. And they're saying to it, well,

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Speaker 1: we gotta wrap this up. In other words, we've got

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Speaker 1: to we've got to get the fix in. And what

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's observation is is these two investigations can't be compartmentalized,

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Speaker 1: and that the FBI saw them as inseparably linked. Trump's

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Speaker 1: victory in the primaries the opening of his path to

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Speaker 1: the Oval office, and that meant the Hillary investigation had

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Speaker 1: to be brought to a close, which in fact, it

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Speaker 1: ended up being brought to a close. They were drafting

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Speaker 1: this exoneration in early May, and at the end of

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Speaker 1: start going after Trump, and then Trump won the nomination,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it is all related. And I keep

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Speaker 1: saying it always goes back to the Clinton email investigation,

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Speaker 1: you know, and when they start talking about, you know, oh,

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Speaker 1: we need an insurance policy. What was the insurance just

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Speaker 1: in case you die? When you're forty and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They opened this whole thing up at late spring, not

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Speaker 1: as they said in in late July. In other words,

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Speaker 1: by bringing up the issue of Carter Page, who's going

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Speaker 1: to join us shortly, and his connections to Russia. Now,

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Speaker 1: the obvious answer would have been somebody in the FBI

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Speaker 1: saying to then candidate Trump, hey, we think there's somebody

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Speaker 1: in your campaign that might have ties to Russia. Remember

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Speaker 1: the most exculpatory thing Donald Trump that appeared in in

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Speaker 1: James Comey's own notes, said that he said, Oh, if

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Speaker 1: it's anybody around me, you've gotta you gotta do something

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Speaker 1: about it. It's not me. I've never I've never talked

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Speaker 1: to anybody in Russia anyway. So, while it was not

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Speaker 1: formally finished, remember Comey went out there. Remember July one,

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Speaker 1: the FBI does his first show interview with Hillary Clinton. Now,

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Speaker 1: remember they also allowed her legal counsel in there. He

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Speaker 1: never allowed that. That's not general practice to allow her

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Speaker 1: lawyers to stay in there while she's being interviewed and

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Speaker 1: seventeen other people and only holds a press conference. You know,

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Speaker 1: after the show interview that Peter Struck conducted with with

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Now then he rewrites, as Andy says, classified

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Speaker 1: information statutes, Clinton clearly violated the law. They barely mentioned

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Speaker 1: the tens of thousands of government business emails she destroyed,

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Speaker 1: including top secret and special Access program information classified information.

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Speaker 1: Uh claims without any elaboration that the FBI can see

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Speaker 1: no evidence of obstruction. Really, how many people ascid wash

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Speaker 1: their hard drives and you know who allows? You know,

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Speaker 1: Clinton was permitted to have co conspirators, as Andy McCarthy says,

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Speaker 1: represent her as lawyers in an interview. That's a violation

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Speaker 1: of federal law in itself, against professional ethics, rutimentory investigated

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Speaker 1: practices precisely because no one regards the interview is serious

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. And he's right, because the fix was in.

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Speaker 1: And on the same day you got the FBI and

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Speaker 1: all the people traveling to London interview Christopher Steel. Everyone

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Speaker 1: forgets in the interrogatories and in am a case in

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Speaker 1: in Great Britain, Christopher Steele says about his own dossier

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Speaker 1: off that's us raw intel fifty fifty. It may be true,

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Speaker 1: and that became the basis of the Vice Award. These

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Speaker 1: are unbelievable times. I can't you can't even make this

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Speaker 1: all up. We don't get this straight. We lose our country,

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Speaker 1: the biggest abuse of power scandal in the history of

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Speaker 1: this country. All right, glad, you have this hour to

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show right down on toll free telephone number.

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Speaker 1: It's eight hundred nine one Seawn if you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program. We have two investigative

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Speaker 1: reporters coming up today, Sarah Carter. At the bottom of

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Speaker 1: this half hour, Carry Pickett is coming up. The President

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Speaker 1: recently said about the Mueller probe that it is destroyed

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Speaker 1: people's lives. There is the person that's really, in many

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Speaker 1: ways at the center of all this speaking out, Carter

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Speaker 1: page Uh telling his story how the FBI ruined his life,

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Speaker 1: and he's in studio with us. How are you so sore?

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Speaker 1: So you weren't an FBI? SI? You are? You? Never did? You?

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Speaker 1: You did go to Russia? Went I've been going back

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Speaker 1: and forth to Russia since business, Yeah, pretty much. And

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Speaker 1: my first trip was while I was at the Naval Academy.

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Speaker 1: We had the first exchange. How many years you you

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Speaker 1: graduated from the Naval Academy of five years afterwards? Um,

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Speaker 1: which everybody has to do. And uh, and that's why

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Speaker 1: you get the free st tuition. But it's it's hard,

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Speaker 1: it's and you get you get the best training in

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Speaker 1: the world. Did um at any point Was there ever

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Speaker 1: any discussion with anybody while you were in the Trump

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Speaker 1: campaign of of getting the information that maybe Russia had

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Speaker 1: from Hillary Clinton's hacked server that was on a mom

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Speaker 1: and pop shop bathroom closet. Not one word at any

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Speaker 1: point ever, Right. I mean, you know, we heard about

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Speaker 1: it in the news afterwards, you know, but that was

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Speaker 1: about it. We're now learning that your name was brought

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Speaker 1: up by Jim Comey in the spring of this is

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Speaker 1: before your trip to Russia. Correct, Yes, did anyone in

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Speaker 1: the in the Trump campaign know you were going to Russia?

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Speaker 1: You know, I mentioned it. Uh, And there was just

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Speaker 1: in passing, you know, to a few people, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they're saying, well, just make it clear that you know,

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with They told you that, they

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Speaker 1: said you should make it clear. Well no, no, I

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Speaker 1: mean if you were making it clear to that, I was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: We're both Why were you going to Russia at that

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Speaker 1: particular point in time. I've spoken at universities throughout my life,

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Speaker 1: and I was living my life. I speaking about I

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Speaker 1: was invited to give us graduation speech. Okay, and I

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Speaker 1: assume we get paid for that speech zero? I was

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Speaker 1: paid zero? Then yes, well, goodness, no, that's probably that's

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Speaker 1: probably true. In the end um, at any point, you

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Speaker 1: never discussed with anybody the Russians giving you information, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if I would, I would argue that

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Speaker 1: if there's a hundred percent of congressmen and senators, if

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Speaker 1: they were told, uh, meet with me, I have oppositie

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Speaker 1: from research that you're gonna want to know in your

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Speaker 1: up on your political opponent. I think it's a hundred

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Speaker 1: percent of people take the meeting. What do you got?

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Speaker 1: No one ever did anything like that, you know, we

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Speaker 1: we were. I was basically hanging out with foreign policy scholars. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I saw a couple of business people I knew previously.

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Speaker 1: But who did you know in the Trump campaign? Who

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Speaker 1: did you report to? Because you're always referred to as

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Speaker 1: a Trump campaign associate, you know, I was really just

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Speaker 1: a low level guy, part of a committee. Did we

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Speaker 1: ever meet during that time? Because I never no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: never no. I'm like, I never heard of who George

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Speaker 1: Papadopolos is I never heard of the guy, of course,

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Speaker 1: but I was listen. I like everybody else, I'm a

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Speaker 1: talk host and I was working sources in every campaign

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Speaker 1: and trying to pall what are you doing? What do

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Speaker 1: you how do you respond? What do you say to this? Um?

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Speaker 1: And were you close to anybody at the top? Nobody? No.

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Speaker 1: I never met President then candidate Trump? Um never, no, never.

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Speaker 1: So the question now is is how did you get

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Speaker 1: in the middle of all this? My first question to

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Speaker 1: the FBI and James Comey would be, Okay, if they

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Speaker 1: thought you were trouble going to Russia, why didn't they

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Speaker 1: tell the Trump campaign, Hey, there's a guy associated with

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Speaker 1: your campaign that's going to Russia. We're a little concerned

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Speaker 1: about it. Wouldn't that have been the more appropriate way

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Speaker 1: to handle it, or or go directly to you and say,

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Speaker 1: why are you going to Russia? Well, I mean the

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Speaker 1: balls on it. Look, the reality is there is I

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Speaker 1: never did anything wrong, So there's absolutely no reason to

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Speaker 1: pull something like you did. Do work for the CIA

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Speaker 1: and the FBI At some point, work is too strong

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Speaker 1: of a a word, you know. It's similar to some

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Speaker 1: of these allegations that are out there right now. I

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Speaker 1: was is a UM. You know, I was asked questions

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Speaker 1: and I was essentially in an informant at some at

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Speaker 1: some for for these organizations. And I'm trusted and trusted

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Speaker 1: and they liked you, trusted you. I had you were helping.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you that you were helping your country

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Speaker 1: that you love absolutely yes. Um. I never paid one cent,

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Speaker 1: by the way, and you did it because they asked

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Speaker 1: you and asked questions, and because you are going to Russia.

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Speaker 1: Russia not exactly our closest friend, you know, there, I

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Speaker 1: look there a hostile enemy in many way. I talked

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Speaker 1: with them about many countries, frankly, and you traveled abroad

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Speaker 1: a lot. I've been around the world many times. All right,

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Speaker 1: So all of this FISE abuse we talked about is

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Speaker 1: about you. When we talk about the Trump campaign associate,

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Speaker 1: and they got a FISA warrant on a Trump campaign

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Speaker 1: which also people forget this gave when they got that warrant,

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Speaker 1: they gave them access to right through the entire Trump

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Speaker 1: campaign network because they got to go to every email

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Speaker 1: in every direction they on it. So it's pretty open

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Speaker 1: ended for them. So they got this just before the election,

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Speaker 1: and we now know that the FISA application was based

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Speaker 1: on a dossier that Hillary and the d n C

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Speaker 1: money that she controlled the Hillary campaign paid for that

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Speaker 1: they funneled through a law firm that hired Fusion GPS,

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Speaker 1: that hired a foreign national at the foreign nationals warrant

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Speaker 1: supposed to impact the elections only Obama could impact the

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Speaker 1: elections in Israel and anyway. And they they used foreign

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Speaker 1: sources that were never verified or corroborated and as a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, stealing an interrogatory in Great Britain said

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Speaker 1: oh no, no, that's raw intel, any of it's true.

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Speaker 1: And yet that was presented to a FISA court to

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Speaker 1: get a warrant to spy on you, an American citizen,

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Speaker 1: And and they never told the judge in the original application,

643
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Speaker 1: subsequent applications three of them that Hillary paid for it. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's really been incredible investigations that have gone on both

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Speaker 1: in the Senate Judiciary and House Intelligence Committee, and the

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Speaker 1: fact that they were able to get to this terrible

647
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Speaker 1: intelligence failure very early on and so quickly, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is basically it wasn't It was several years until

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Speaker 1: we learned about the intelligence failures in Iraq, right, And

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Speaker 1: I mean people are kind of waking up to this

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Speaker 1: still right now. I mean, people have been talking about

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Speaker 1: it over recent linement. But Fiser to to the Fiser

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Speaker 1: Court has stringent it's a stringent law. You're an American citizen.

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Speaker 1: We have a constitution, you have Fourth Amendment rights against

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Speaker 1: unreasonable search and seizure. The judges, let's start with the

656
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: original application, were lied to by Hillary Clinton, bought and

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Speaker 1: paid for propaganda from Russia, ironically put together by a

658
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Speaker 1: foreign national. Absolutely, your rights were violated. Well, not only that,

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Speaker 1: I think what's sad about it right now is that

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Speaker 1: people are still dragging their feet in the d o

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Speaker 1: J and other parts of government, you know, more than

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Speaker 1: dragging their feet though, I mean, and then they did

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Speaker 1: it three other times. Yes, this and the bulk of information,

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Speaker 1: according to the Grassly Grand Memo was the phony dossier. Yes,

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Speaker 1: well it'll be interesting, you know. And again they got

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Speaker 1: the original warrant and then the renewal in January of

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Speaker 1: last year, based you know, without my ever talking with them,

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Speaker 1: and I eventually as was leaked. Did you know you

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Speaker 1: were being inspired on by your own country? There were

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Speaker 1: news reports and I actually, you know, I had a

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Speaker 1: hint some hints out there, and uh, and I actually

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Speaker 1: spoke you know, eventually as as was leaked to the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post, Uh, devil Devlin barrett Um. You know, later

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Speaker 1: last summer, Uh, it came out that I did have

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Speaker 1: these conversations and I asked them about it specifically, and

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously nothing was I think Putin is a

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Speaker 1: bad actor. I think Russia is a hostel regime to

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Speaker 1: the United States. You agree with that. I think there

679
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Speaker 1: are I think that's a long discussion and there are

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Speaker 1: things that there may be some more nuanced, is what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. There are nuances, and I think there are

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Speaker 1: ways out of those the predicament that you're alluding to.

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Speaker 1: So okay, but I do think that Listen, I think

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Speaker 1: the Russians, I do believe that they Devin Nowon has

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Speaker 1: wrote in Washington Examiner that they're going to try and

686
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Speaker 1: disrupt our elections. They did well, but we know, but

687
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Speaker 1: they've done it to your and they've done it to

688
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Speaker 1: a million countries. This is now there standard operating procedure,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that everyone was surprised is ridiculous to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: and as you're alluding to, you know, it's if there's

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Speaker 1: if there are these standard operating procedures, they go back

692
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Speaker 1: many decades, seventy plus years, right, And so you know,

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Speaker 1: I think what President then Canada Trump was talking about

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Speaker 1: is trying to be creative and find little Rocketman's coming

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00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: to the table looks like on June the twelfth. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's better to be at peace with any

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Speaker 1: country than to be in a state of war because

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00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: people bleed and die, Americans lose their lives. We just

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Speaker 1: had Memorial Day yesterday, So let's go to this whole

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Speaker 1: you're speaking out, how did the FBI to use the

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Speaker 1: headline ruin your life? Well, actually it ties in with

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Speaker 1: what you were just saying. Uh, Any any um damage

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Speaker 1: that was done by the U. S. Intelligence community to

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Speaker 1: me is minuscule compared to the intelligence failure in Iraq, right,

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Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot of close similarities where they

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Speaker 1: were basing decisions at the highest levels of government. But

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Speaker 1: I think that would argue is we have evidence that

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Speaker 1: that Saddam used these weapons of mass destruction against his

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Speaker 1: own people. Occords in the North. We have we have

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Speaker 1: dead bodies on videos of that. Whether he got rid

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Speaker 1: of them or not. I don't know did in the

712
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Speaker 1: in the lead up to that war, did he funnel

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Speaker 1: those weapons to Syria? I mean, I think those are

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Speaker 1: all fair questions in this particular case, if it's an

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Speaker 1: intelligence failure warrant, the weapons, the powerful weapons of intelligence

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Speaker 1: turned on you. They they were turned on me. But

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Speaker 1: I think it was for a bigger purpose, right to

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Speaker 1: damage than candidate Trump. So you were just a pawn

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00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: and a play against Trump. You believe that we'll see

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm waiting for disclosure. I'm waiting for some

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Speaker 1: honesty from Department of Justice, and you won't make it. Um.

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Speaker 1: But the but all of this has ruined your life again,

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Speaker 1: And that's what I was alluding to. There were four

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Speaker 1: thousand plus people who lost their life after that intelligence

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Speaker 1: failure in your actually there was a dodgy So you're alive,

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Speaker 1: so you didn't ruin your life. Like there's no comparison whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I still have my arms and my limbs, and so

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Speaker 1: I still think I personally think it's an open question

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Speaker 1: on on Iraqi. Intelligence and intelligence is an imprecise science.

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Speaker 1: You know it's hard, um, But I don't like these

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Speaker 1: tools being turned on the American people. Let me let

732
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Speaker 1: me ask you this. You met have you met Robert

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Speaker 1: Muller's team? Have you been called into the Special Council's office? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know there's been a lot of leaks and people

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Speaker 1: have talking about Well, I that's that's Are you not

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Speaker 1: allowed to talk about it? Well? I I if you

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Speaker 1: did go, would you not be allowed to talk about it?

738
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Speaker 1: Because I know that um what's his name lost nearly

739
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Speaker 1: lost his house. Um, he's been speaking out lately, Caputo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's been They told him when he left,

741
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Speaker 1: he told me in an interview we'll be watching you

742
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Speaker 1: on TV. Have you ever told anything like that? You know?

743
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Speaker 1: I I think, relatively speaking, compared to the Senate Intelligence Committee,

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Speaker 1: which has been very vocal and in terms of various

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00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: leaks about me, Um, there has been relatively minimal leaks

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Speaker 1: in terms of the Special Council. Do you know that

747
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Speaker 1: they're that you're in any legal jeopardy? I feel zero

748
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Speaker 1: legal jeopardy because you did nothing wrong. Absolutely, It's it's inconceivable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everything that's even speculated is makes no sense whatsoever. Ye? Alright,

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Speaker 1: Carter pages with us. Yeah, he's the guy when we

751
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: always talk about Trump campaign associate that's him, the one

752
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: that four four separate FISA warrants, four separate lies to

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Speaker 1: four separate judges signed off by the way once the

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Speaker 1: last one by Rod Rosenstein and people like Sally Yates. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That allowed this government to spy on him, and yet

756
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Speaker 1: it was all based the bulk of information on a

757
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: phony docier. That's a problem for this country. It's a

758
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: problem for the rule of law. Equal justice under the law,

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Speaker 1: equal application under the law, our Fourth Amendment, constitutional rights

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Speaker 1: under the law. And why more civil libertarians aren't with

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Speaker 1: me on this is shocking. I will take a break

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Speaker 1: more with Carter Page. Sarah Carter response to this at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. If alright, as we roll

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Speaker 1: along Sean Hannity Show, to all free it's a hundred

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Speaker 1: nine for one, Shawn, you want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the program. Uh. Carter pages in studio with us.

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Speaker 1: He is the Trump campaign associate for separate viz A

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Speaker 1: warrants against and the last one was signed by Rod Rosenstein,

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Speaker 1: one of them signed by Sally Yates. Yep, have any

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Speaker 1: strong feelings towards them? Well, you know there is there

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Speaker 1: is interesting um case. Previously, Mr Rosenstein was the U. S.

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Speaker 1: Attorney for the District of Maryland, right, and two days

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Speaker 1: after the Dodgy dossier was put out on January twelve,

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Speaker 1: he filed a case. He led a case against a

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Speaker 1: swatting UH incident where a couple of kids were joking

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Speaker 1: around and called the police. Right, and then it sort

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Speaker 1: of made a big incident out of it. I mean

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Speaker 1: that that became a big federal case. And it's interesting

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Speaker 1: it goes back to what you're talking about with the

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Speaker 1: two standards of justice, right. Nothing. This is actually involving

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Speaker 1: one young man from a nineteen year old guy from England, Coventry, England,

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Speaker 1: Robert Walker McDade. And he's you know, he's going through

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Speaker 1: this big you know, they're looking to x um bring

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Speaker 1: him over to the United States to face charges. Compare

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Speaker 1: that to Mr Steele, who's been you know, a much

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Speaker 1: more senior person and there's a big cover up surrounding that.

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Speaker 1: So you know, again it's exactly what you're talking about, Shawn.

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Speaker 1: Two separate justice systems, two separate announces. I don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of time yet. Um. You were in the

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Speaker 1: first meeting you had, you were asked about the Dodgy dacier.

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Speaker 1: This is right after, maybe two months after BuzzFeed had

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Speaker 1: published it. I've examined this closely a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: And then a few days later, you had another meeting.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about it. Well, you know again as was

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Speaker 1: leaked to Devlin Barrett at the Washington Post, you know,

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Speaker 1: and came out last. Being in the studio is going

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Speaker 1: to be leaked ahead exactly? Well, you know, they were asking, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I had a long series of meetings in

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Speaker 1: March of last year, and they were asking me a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions. And originally, you know, they were they

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Speaker 1: were basic questions about the Dodgy dossier. But over time,

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Speaker 1: the good people from the you know, the age FBI

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Speaker 1: agents I was talking to sort of you could tell

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Speaker 1: they got the joke. They could the agents did the

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Speaker 1: rank and file. I always separate those. You're gonna join

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Speaker 1: us on TV tonight. I look forward to, Yeah, Carter page,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sarah Carter. Next, what's the difference between an

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Speaker 1: informant and a spy? Well, first of all, I think

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Speaker 1: it's very typical of Mr Trump to mischaracterize. He's a

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Speaker 1: master of mischaracterization and dishonesty. A spy as somebody who

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Speaker 1: is recruited usually it's a foreign national who was going

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Speaker 1: to work on behalf of U. S intelligence agencies to

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Speaker 1: provide information about issues related towards security. A confidential human

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Speaker 1: source is what the FBI uses in order to have

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Speaker 1: some insight, uh into what may be going on that

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Speaker 1: could involve curminal activity. And so to label someone as

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Speaker 1: a spy when they're confidential human source, I think is

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Speaker 1: doing a disservice to these individuals, but also to the FBI.

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Speaker 1: But again, this is something that Mr Trump is, as

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Speaker 1: you said, masterful out in terms of twisting the truth

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Speaker 1: in order to support his narrative. Clapper has now admitted

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Speaker 1: that there was spying in my campaign. Large dollars were

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Speaker 1: paid to the spy, far beyond normal. Starting to look

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Speaker 1: like one of the biggest political scandals in US history.

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Speaker 1: Spygate a terrible thing. Exclamation point. What the hell is

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Speaker 1: he talking about? What? What? What? What is this? You

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Speaker 1: are a former FBI director of what what is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I best I can how it's made up. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where he's getting that from, honestly, and a number

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Speaker 1: of things he's announced with the biggest scandal since Watergate.

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Speaker 1: My guess is two weeks from now, there'll be something

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Speaker 1: different than this. But I don't know anything about those facts, right, So,

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Speaker 1: and do you find that to be at all possible

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Speaker 1: or probable? And I just played Devil's advocate that there

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Speaker 1: was a spy inserted into his campaign by an intelligence agency.

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Speaker 1: I don't find it possible and I know it not

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Speaker 1: to be true. I asked, was the FBI spying on

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Speaker 1: Trump's campaign? They were not. They were spying on a

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Speaker 1: term I don't particularly like, but on what the Russians

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Speaker 1: are doing, trying to understand where the Russians infiltrating, trying

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Speaker 1: to gain access, trying to gain leverage and influence. So

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Speaker 1: why doesn't like what they do? So why doesn't he

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Speaker 1: like that? He should be happy that he should be

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Speaker 1: all right? So that was John Brennan and James Comey

845
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Speaker 1: Brennan talking about Trump, the master of mischaracteration, characterization, and dishonesty,

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Speaker 1: call me Trumps spy gate claims are not true, and

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Speaker 1: Schumer Trump calling Sean Hannity unsecured phone. Well, let me

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Speaker 1: set the record straight. I have never, to my knowledge

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Speaker 1: ever talked to the president on a cell phone. I

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Speaker 1: don't recall ever knowingly talking to him on a cell phone. Ever.

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Speaker 1: You know, people can speculate all they want. James Clapper,

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Speaker 1: agreeing with Joy joylis Behar, she should be happy the

853
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Speaker 1: FBI was spying on his campaign. Now we have been watching,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's took a few days off and I'm

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Speaker 1: watching all weekend long. Oh, it's just informants. These are

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Speaker 1: These aren't spies. It's just informants in the campaign. Informants

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Speaker 1: that were spying on the Trump campaign. The very purpose

858
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Speaker 1: of their existence was to spy and and for the

859
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Speaker 1: media to just try and and parse a like Bill

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Speaker 1: Clinton on steroids is embarrassing. Anyway. Sarah Carter is with

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Speaker 1: US investigative reporter, Fox News contributor, and she has some

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Speaker 1: new information about all of this. Great column again by

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Speaker 1: Byron York on all these people talking to Carter page earlier. Uh, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm doing great? Sean, thank you, how

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Speaker 1: are you? I hope you had a great weekend. I did,

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Speaker 1: thank you? And uh, just to go, these were spies.

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Speaker 1: The idea that they're trying to say these are just informants,

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Speaker 1: they're not that. It's not true. It's not true. Well,

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Speaker 1: and it also appears that you know, based on the

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Speaker 1: information that we here coming out based on the Calm

871
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Speaker 1: stations UH that Byron New York as well as I

872
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Speaker 1: have had with Carter Page, as well as other reporters

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Speaker 1: have had with Sam Clovis UH and stories that have

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Speaker 1: come out with George Papadopoulos. The more information we're hearing

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Speaker 1: and the more we're seeing it goes beyond the idea

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Speaker 1: of even spire informant. I mean, there's some serious allegations

877
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Speaker 1: here that there was possibly influenced by these people to

878
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: kind of set up these situations, these scenarios. Now, I

879
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: know this is still being investigated by the House Intelligence Committee,

880
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Speaker 1: and remembertion on the Intelligence Committee is still waiting for

881
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Speaker 1: documents that the d o J and we are refusing

882
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Speaker 1: to turn over on investigation started. But as we see

883
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Speaker 1: now based on the timelines, it doesn't appear that this

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Speaker 1: investigation really started in the summer of two thousand and sixteen.

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00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: It appears to have started much earlier, in the early

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Speaker 1: spring of of two thousand sixteen, and a lot of

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00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: this information that we're hearing now kinds of points in

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00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: that direction. It also brings into account some of the

889
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: people that were involved in this in London all right,

890
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: let's go and let's go through the timeline. Andy McCarthy

891
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,959
Speaker 1: really tore this up. This really was a two part

892
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: in a two part effort, and part A was the

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Speaker 1: exoneration of Hillary Clinton. And I don't think we can

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Speaker 1: put enough emphasis on this that this was never a

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Speaker 1: real investigation, that the fix had always been in here.

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Speaker 1: And the very same people that were involved in that

897
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Speaker 1: investigation and exoneration of Hillary were the same people that

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Speaker 1: ended up, you know, going two days later over to

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Speaker 1: Great Britain's to start this whole investigation into Russia collusion,

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Speaker 1: even though we now know it started in the literally

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Speaker 1: in the spring, did it not. Yeah, it appears that

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Speaker 1: it did start in the spring of at least that's

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Speaker 1: when they all became aware of what they had. And

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Speaker 1: what I mean is those people a former FBI director

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Speaker 1: James Comey who was fired, Andrew McCabe who was fired.

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Speaker 1: So what happened was in March Archy one, two thousand sixteen,

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Speaker 1: that's when then candidate Donald Trump announced to The Washington

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Speaker 1: Post his foreign policy team. The team that was working

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Speaker 1: with him, he named Off Carter Page. He also named

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00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: Off George Papadopoulis and believe it or not. At the time,

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Speaker 1: George Papadopoulis, who's a young guy who really didn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of experience. Both he and Carter Page were

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Speaker 1: volunteering UM at the behest of Sam Clovis. UH. George

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Speaker 1: Papadophoulis was actually working in London at the time. And

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Speaker 1: what's really interesting is that even before Donald Trump made

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Speaker 1: that announcement, UH, this professor H. Joseph Missfoot, who was

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Speaker 1: connected to the Russians, had already but not just to

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Speaker 1: the Russians. Remember, this professor was also connected to former

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Speaker 1: members of the CIA. He was also connected to British intelligence.

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Speaker 1: On March fourteen, he met with George Papadopoulis in Italy

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Speaker 1: and became very interested in him. This is where everything

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Speaker 1: kind of fuzzy, like where did it all start? A

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Speaker 1: lot right now, we're seeing that March twenty one was

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Speaker 1: significant because that's when Comy went to Loretta Lynch right

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Speaker 1: after Donald Trump made that announcement, and he and McCabe

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Speaker 1: actually briefed Loretta Lynch about Carter Page being on there.

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Speaker 1: We know this how because the House Intelligence Committee report

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Speaker 1: talks about this and shortly after Comey and McKay brief

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Speaker 1: Laretta Lynch. They then go to the National Security Council meeting.

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Speaker 1: This is the meeting with all the principles and who

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Speaker 1: are the principles? Samantha Power from the u N, John

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Speaker 1: Brennan from the CIA, all the top officials. So this

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Speaker 1: is still in March. This is still in March of

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Speaker 1: s and early April. Now they briefed them, but they

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Speaker 1: decide at the briefing, both with the one with Lynch

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Speaker 1: and apparently at the one with the Principles, that they're

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Speaker 1: not going to give this defensive briefing to President Trump

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Speaker 1: to stress any concerns they have about carter Page being

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Speaker 1: on his team. What's even more unusual, Sean. Even more

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Speaker 1: unusual than that is that carter Page actually helped the

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Speaker 1: FBI in a previous case put away. If they were worried, though,

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Speaker 1: if they were worried about carter Page, why didn't they

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Speaker 1: go to the Trump campaign and say, hey, guys, I

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Speaker 1: want you to be aware of UH for your own

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Speaker 1: safety and security, that there might be somebody we need

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on and that we're investigating. That

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Speaker 1: to me would be the proper protocol, But instead it

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Speaker 1: seemed like they saw an opportunity to weaponize uh, somebody

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Speaker 1: that had even worked for them in the past. Apparently, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And that is a huge question because I have talked

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Speaker 1: to a number of people within the FBI, former and current,

952
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: as well as people within the intelligence community, and that

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00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: is protocol. If there is any question about somebody approaching

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Speaker 1: a presidential candidate, whether that be Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: whether it be in the past Marco Rubio, or anybody else,

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Speaker 1: whether that person, if that person is connected to the

957
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Speaker 1: Russians or some other state actor that is a concern

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Speaker 1: for the United States, then absolutely, by protocol, they have

959
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: to give a defensive briefing, and in this case they

960
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: gave none. But instead, what we find out is that April,

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Speaker 1: right after all of these discussions take place, we know

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Speaker 1: for a fact that in April Fusion GPS is hired

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Speaker 1: by Perkins Coohie to go after Trump and possible Russia connections.

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Speaker 1: That's when Fusion GPS also hires x British spy Christopher

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00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: Steele to put together this dossier, and that is paid

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Speaker 1: for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in coincidence. I don't I don't believe

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Speaker 1: in coincidence either. A right, let's go to Andy McCarthy's timeline,

969
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: and I think this is very very interesting and troubling.

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Speaker 1: Not Ted Cruz had just dropped out of the race,

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00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: and it became unbelievable to the likes of of Struck

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00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: and Page that Trump was going to be the Republican

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Speaker 1: nominee and that he'd be squaring off against Hillary. And

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Speaker 1: I think what's what's so interesting about what is peace

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Speaker 1: shows here because they were both stunned, and as Andy says,

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Speaker 1: that the only words we needed to know that reflected

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Speaker 1: the mindset of the agency's leadership, because they were in leadership.

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Speaker 1: Now the pressure really starts to finish m y E,

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Speaker 1: the mid year Exam, which was the code word the

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: FBI had given to the Hillary Clinton email probe. And

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00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: both of them agreed that that was really really important

982
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: and so and this was the top brass of the FBI.

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00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: And remember, into Trump was to them somebody they didn't

984
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: think could win. That's why they talked about maybe an

985
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: insurance policy. But you know the real reality is is

986
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: that these these investigations can't be compartmentalized because the FBI

987
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: saw them as an separable link. As as Andy pointed out,

988
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, Trump's victory and the price Mary's the opening

989
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: his path to the Oval office meant that Hillary's case

990
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: needed to be brought to a close, and then later

991
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: that led to you know, Operation Crossfire Hurricane. That's right.

992
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: You couldn't really separate one from the other right at

993
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: the time, especially if you're looking at the leadership and

994
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: considering the fact that Peter Strugg, who was head of

995
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: the Russia Desk at the time, was looking into both

996
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: of these cases and how they intertwined with each other

997
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: was critically important because you see that the criminal investigation

998
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: into Hillary Clinton that gets dropped, that gets pushed away.

999
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: Coomy made sure of that, so did the FBI. They're

1000
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: no longer going to the case closed. And she wasn't

1001
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: intending to do any to create any malice. There was

1002
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: no real gross negligence here. But as soon as Trump

1003
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: becomes the candidate, everything goes into high gear. Why because

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: they believed at the time, They believed at the time

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Speaker 1: that that Hillary would take this and this would be sweeping.

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Speaker 1: Now they become and this is according to sources that

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Speaker 1: I've spoken with. Also, it's kind of a state of panic. Right,

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: they have to get things taken care of. They have

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Speaker 1: to ensure that that Hillary does win. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of the sources that I spoke to, a lot of

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: former FBI senior law enforcement officials that understood how these

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: operations work, that understand how things are meant to play out,

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01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: and they saw all the flaws in that investigation into

1014
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Said, boy oh boy, they must have been terrified.

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01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: That means everyone that this would start to unravel. Right,

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01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: stay right there, We'll take a break. We'll come back

1017
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Speaker 1: more with Sarah Carter on the other side. One Shawn

1018
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: is our number. Carry Pickett, investigative reporter for The Daily Caller,

1019
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: is going to check in with us. She has a

1020
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Speaker 1: story out today about the FBI and Senator Grassley's whistleblower law.

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Speaker 1: And uh. Also we'll be checking in with Senator and

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Speaker 1: Dr Bill Cassidy Louisiana and much much more. Alright, I

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Speaker 1: so we continue. Sarah Carter, investigative reporter and Fox News contributor.

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Speaker 1: All Right, what about these recent reports scattered across social

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: media that the this testimony of this FBI special agent.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got reports that Trey Gaudy and others

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Speaker 1: and Bob Goodlad have at least three or four FBI

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Speaker 1: UH special agents that were involved in all of this

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Speaker 1: regarding the Clinton email investigation, and they want to testify

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01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: after the i G report comes out about how bad

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01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: the fix was in for Hillary. To me, that's going

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Speaker 1: to be the blockbuster testimony. I think we have a

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01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: lot to look forward to when it comes to that testimony.

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Speaker 1: I know for certain that one of the FBI special agents,

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01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: who still a current FBI special agent according to my sources,

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Speaker 1: is willing to provide testimony, direct testimony in relation to

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Speaker 1: his work with Peter Struck and the interviews that they

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01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: conducted with Flynn and any of the circumstances surrounding that. Now, remember, Sean,

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Speaker 1: what's really important here is that if they're current agents,

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Speaker 1: means they're not retired and they're going to be providing testimony. UM,

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Speaker 1: they have to be subpoena to a large extent, and

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Speaker 1: they have to be subpoena directly. That means we don't

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Speaker 1: subpoena them through the FBI. We don't let the FBI

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Speaker 1: sit on their their subpoenas. UH youth subpoena these FBI

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01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: agents directly subpoena them at their homes, tell them that

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Speaker 1: you need them to, you know, to show on a

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Speaker 1: certain date, and make that testimony public. You know, at

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Speaker 1: first I was thinking talking to a number of agents

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Speaker 1: or there was a lot of back and forth between

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Speaker 1: whether or not it should be made public or whether

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Speaker 1: or not it should be kept behind closed doors the testimony. Um.

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Speaker 1: Now that I've been speaking to a number of retired

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01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: law enforcement officials and current law enforcement officials, they say, no,

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Speaker 1: this has to go public now regardless. But those subpoenas

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Speaker 1: have to come in because you know the dangerous situation

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Speaker 1: that a lot of these FBI agents put themselves in,

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Speaker 1: especially if they're currently working. If they walk over, you know,

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Speaker 1: to the House Intelligence Committee or reach out to the

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Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee, they could get into a lot of

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Speaker 1: trouble with the bureau. So the only way to protect

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Speaker 1: these agents at best as they can is to subpoena them.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know why they have not done so yet.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very important. Uh. The House Intelligence Committee

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Speaker 1: as well as the Senate Judiciary Committee has had some

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Speaker 1: of these names for some time. Subpoena these agents, get

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Speaker 1: their testimony, make it public. Let the American people know

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Well said, all right, Sarah Carter. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us on Sean. Sarah will be

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Speaker 1: joining us tonight. Also the latest Rosanne being canceled. Eight

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Speaker 1: hundred nine Shawn is our number if you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program. We'll get to that. Also,

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Speaker 1: a lot of your calls coming up straight ahead. Eight

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Speaker 1: Shawn is our number if you want to join us.

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Speaker 1: Calling up next our final news round up and information

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Speaker 1: overload our Uh. We actually chat here in a week

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Speaker 1: that had a lot of developments. Uh. What do you

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Speaker 1: make of the President's demand of the Justice Department that

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Speaker 1: they investigate, essentially investigate the investigation of that involves his

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Speaker 1: campaign and perhaps him. You know, this has really taken

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Speaker 1: the assault on the rule of law to a new level. Um.

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Speaker 1: Really from the beginning of this presidency, UM, President Trump

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Speaker 1: has not observed the north the time on our norm

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Speaker 1: that's been in place, UM, at least since Watergate, that

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Speaker 1: there should be a real division between the Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice and the White House. UM. It would certainly d

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Speaker 1: J is part of the executive branch. We all recognize that.

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Speaker 1: But for the public to have confidence that the law

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Speaker 1: is not being used in a political way. UM. Presidents

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Speaker 1: in both parties have recognized that those decisions really need

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Speaker 1: to be left to the people at the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 1: And there have been, you know, incidents in the past,

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Speaker 1: from calling, for example, UM Attorney General Sessions and trying

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Speaker 1: to get him to drop the criminal case on Sheriff

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Speaker 1: our Pio to repeatedly calling for the investigator or prosecution

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Speaker 1: of his former political rival, UM. But this took it

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Speaker 1: a step further because he didn't just opine, he actually

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Speaker 1: directed and you know that does take things to a

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Speaker 1: different and more dangerous level. And so I think the

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Speaker 1: FBI did And who do you think? Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what we do know is is that there was indeed

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Speaker 1: a confidential human source is what the FBI would call it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that was was actually giving intel not only to the FBI.

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Speaker 1: But you have to ask the question, uh, when did

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Speaker 1: it start. We do know that actually those confidential human

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Speaker 1: sources were engaging prior to the official FBI investigation. So

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Speaker 1: the question begs at whose direction? You know, what were

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Speaker 1: they collecting and who were they reporting to? Because that

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Speaker 1: was happening before the FBI actually opened an investigation. And

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Speaker 1: so as we know that, and we know that from

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Speaker 1: non classified sources. Uh, there is no question that there

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Speaker 1: was a spy that was collecting information. And the definition

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Speaker 1: of that somebody who does something in secret without the

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Speaker 1: knowledge of another person. They may have had someone who

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Speaker 1: was talking to them uh in uh in the campaign.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the focus here, and as it was

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Speaker 1: with the Intel's community, is not on the campaign per se,

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Speaker 1: but what the Russians were doing to try to to

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Speaker 1: instantiate themselves in the campaign or to influence or leverage it.

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Speaker 1: So if there was someone that was observing that sort

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Speaker 1: of thing, uh, well, that's a good thing, all right.

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Speaker 1: News rounded up an information overload our here on the

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. That last cup was James Clapper. Believe

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Speaker 1: this is a good thing, the FBI spying on the

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign and the media. Of course, now it's just

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Speaker 1: an informant. Okay, same old lies then Yet John Brennan,

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Speaker 1: remember the guy lies for a living, you know, former

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Speaker 1: voted for a communists. Unbelievable how we ever became the

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Speaker 1: CIA director. Trump is the master of mischaracterizations and dishonesty.

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Speaker 1: Gives definition of what a spy is. Um excuse me,

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Speaker 1: with all due respect, if anyone ever did this to

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Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign, Uh, we'd never hear the end of it.

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Speaker 1: And Mark Meadows rightly pointing out, yeah, there was a

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Speaker 1: spy in the Trump campaign. It appears now multiple spies now.

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Speaker 1: Carry Pickett is an investigative reporter for The Daily Caller.

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Speaker 1: She has another story out today on the FBI and

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Speaker 1: Senator Grassley's whistleblower law, which is not doing enough to

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Speaker 1: protect FBI agents who we now know want to come

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Speaker 1: forward and they want to be put onto oath by

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Speaker 1: Congress so they can tell their story about how those

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Speaker 1: in the upper echelon the FBI were we're mishandling all

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Speaker 1: these investigations and abusing their power. Anyway, The Daily Caller,

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Speaker 1: you know, talked to disgruntled EPI agents. They're afraid of

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Speaker 1: retaliation to speak out about the bureau's many troubles. They

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Speaker 1: want to tell the story about Comey, McCabe, Struck and

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Speaker 1: Paige because that's not who they are, and unfortunately their

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Speaker 1: reputation is smearing the process. I keep trying to remind

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Speaker 1: everybody this is not rank and file people, and these

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Speaker 1: sources are saying that the agents don't even trust Congress

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Speaker 1: will protect them from the consequences if in fact they

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Speaker 1: testify again. It was a report today that is gonna

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Speaker 1: be at least three or four FBI special agents now

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Speaker 1: that are gonna go before Trey Goudy and Bob Goodlad's

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Speaker 1: committee that are gonna blow out the entire Inspector General

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Speaker 1: report because they were part of these investigations. And the

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Speaker 1: FBI rarely punishes those who retaliate against whistleblowers, according to

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Speaker 1: the UH agency itself, and anyway, the grass Lely Law

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Speaker 1: does an appropriate job of protecting any whistle blower from

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Speaker 1: unfair prosecution. But the we better get this right going forward,

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Speaker 1: so the powerful tools of intelligence are not used against

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Speaker 1: the American people in the future. Harry Pickett joins us, Now,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm doing great, Sean, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's go through your article today, which

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Speaker 1: is a follow up on on the article that you

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Speaker 1: put out last week. But very specifically, we have very

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Speaker 1: brave FBI agent special agents that were there that saw

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Speaker 1: the so a lot of these deeds being done. They

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Speaker 1: knew it was inappropriate, probably even lawbreaking. They want to talk,

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Speaker 1: but they're afraid to talk. That's right, Sean. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that we're doing this follow up because after my initial

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Speaker 1: article came out, you had a Center Grassley, who of

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Speaker 1: course is the chairman of the Judiciary Committee in the

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Speaker 1: Upper Chamber. He went to the floor of the Senate

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Speaker 1: to defend this, uh, this whistle bower law that he spearheaded.

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Speaker 1: And I certainly want to make sure here that everyone

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Speaker 1: knows that the whistle Blower Protection Act, along with the

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Speaker 1: enhancement of the whistle bar Protection Act, that went out

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Speaker 1: to really a specify uh protections of FBI agents. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It is not necessarily a big problem, but it needs

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Speaker 1: more protections in it. UH, mainly because you have FBI

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Speaker 1: agents who will say, and there was one specific FBI

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Speaker 1: agent who did become a whistleblower in they'll say, look,

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Speaker 1: if we step forward before day Senator Grassley's committee. UH,

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Speaker 1: then what can happen is you'll have the agency along

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Speaker 1: with the the Department itself, they can do retaliatory measures

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Speaker 1: that can financially ruin us via legal sees. So whether

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Speaker 1: it's through an administrative charge for example, loss of effectiveness,

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Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, you will end up

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Speaker 1: having the agent having to pony up money out of

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Speaker 1: his or her own bank account, and they'll end up

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Speaker 1: being destroyed financially. Also, um, they'll have their reputations destroyed,

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Speaker 1: and then they will have a very hard time getting

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Speaker 1: employee uh in the future, and the next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: their entire lives are destroyed. Ultimately, Congress has a very

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Speaker 1: tough time being seen as overseers of the agency because

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Speaker 1: the agency of brass are the ones who are not

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Speaker 1: feared by the FBI. It's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: very tough thing here because the FBI doesn't look at

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Speaker 1: Congress as shall we say, tough guys. All they have

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Speaker 1: to do is just stall and say, okay, now we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna put you off. You know, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to really take you seriously. Because what exactly can you

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Speaker 1: do to the Justice Department, the guys who do the prosecutions,

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Speaker 1: What exactly can they do, uh, to the guys who

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Speaker 1: are the ones who take people to court. Congress has

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Speaker 1: to figure out a real enforcement mechanism against the Justice Department,

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Speaker 1: because as of now, people aren't too sure what exactly

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Speaker 1: that enforcement mechanism really is. I mean, that's such an

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Speaker 1: important point here. Um, and it's Look, this is why

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Speaker 1: a lot of us have said we need a special, second,

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Speaker 1: special counsel. But those people that were on the inside,

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Speaker 1: that are real, true law and order people, that are

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Speaker 1: people that that saw abuse of power, that witness corruption

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Speaker 1: at the highest levels, those are the people. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, here's an irony that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this abuse of power only

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Speaker 1: because of people in these agencies that are courageous enough

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Speaker 1: to speak out. And you know, I keep saying this,

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Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, people saying, well, conservatives

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Speaker 1: are turned against law enforcement, not at all. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing. My whole family was in law enforcement. It's

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Speaker 1: just the opposite. We're just we We know the rank

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Speaker 1: and file are good people that do a good job,

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Speaker 1: that put their lives at risk for us every day.

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Speaker 1: But we can't you know, when you have abuse of

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Speaker 1: power where one presidential candidate is literally kept in the

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Speaker 1: race because they rigg an investigation, when false information is

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Speaker 1: presented to four FISA judges and they don't tell the

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Speaker 1: judges this is unverified, turns out to be untrue, information

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Speaker 1: about Donald Trump and that Hillary paid for it. When

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Speaker 1: you've got unmasking and surveillance and leaking raw intelligence at

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Speaker 1: the level that we have seen, increases we've never seen

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Speaker 1: in this country's history, and all of these things. Writing

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Speaker 1: on this, this is a very dangerous time for the country.

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Speaker 1: So we've got to get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be rank and file, FBI, intelligence, CIA

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Speaker 1: people that help us get there. Absolutely, Sean, And look

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Speaker 1: at this pattern that we're seeing coming out of the

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Speaker 1: Justice departments, how they go after both the the the

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Speaker 1: private sector and their own employees when they essentially always

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Speaker 1: say retaliate. Uh, it's the idea of leaving them dry

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Speaker 1: financially until they end up saying no mosque over on

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Speaker 1: over in the private sector through the mall Are investigations,

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Speaker 1: they went after of course, uh, Caputo, they went after Flynn.

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Speaker 1: It's the idea of bleeding people dry financially, whether they're

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Speaker 1: innocent or not. And that's something that I really think

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Speaker 1: that the legal legals here in this country really have

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Speaker 1: to start looking at in terms of should a department

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Speaker 1: like this have this kind of power to say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we don't know if we have a good case or not.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, We're just gonna use the infinite

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Speaker 1: resources that we have both legally and financially just bleak

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Speaker 1: this person dry, uh and and or or entity dry.

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Speaker 1: So then they're just gonna say no, Moss. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: do you think at the end of this there are

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Speaker 1: documents that I keep getting reports on that exist that

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Speaker 1: will blow this entire thing out of water. When do

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Speaker 1: we get that information? Well, that is a million dollar question,

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Speaker 1: right then? Yeah, yeah, there is a is a as

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Speaker 1: good as mine and uh, hopefully very soon at this point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I can only imagine it will be probably uh,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine within the next uh at least few months,

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Speaker 1: you know, if not a few weeks. We'll see. All right,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much. Carry pick at eight uh nine for one.

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Speaker 1: Shawn is my toll free telephone number. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: our phones here, Shawn our number. Davis in Atlanta News

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Speaker 1: Talk WSB. How are you, Dave? What's going on? I

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Speaker 1: was talking to your old buddy Neil Boorts over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: We were chatting what's going on? Well, I'm glad you're

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Speaker 1: back and first time caller, and just want to say

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Speaker 1: we really appreciate what you're doing collectively with Sarah and John,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for um really uncovering the greatest threat

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Speaker 1: to our democracy. But last week you were bantering with

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Speaker 1: your team about going on sixty minutes, and I just

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe you would even consider that. With the advice

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Speaker 1: that you've been giving the president, I'm being interviewed by Mueller.

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Speaker 1: You keep saying, don't do it. Obviously, Well there's no

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Speaker 1: legal jeopardy for me, but it's totally a set up. Listen,

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Speaker 1: this is how, this is how CBS and I learned

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Speaker 1: this with Ted Copple, How Ted Copple and I over

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Speaker 1: the years. I always knew he was a left winger.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. We had a respectful relationship. He's interviewed me before, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I want to interview you for a night one and

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Speaker 1: you know, so all right, he comes over, does an

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Speaker 1: hour interview with me, and he shows a minute and

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Speaker 1: seven seconds just to make him look good and me

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Speaker 1: look bad. We have to give some credit to the

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Speaker 1: American people that they're somewhat intelligent and that they know

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Speaker 1: the difference between an opinion show and a new show.

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Speaker 1: You cynical, look at it cynical because you know, you

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Speaker 1: think we're bad for America. You think I'm bad for America. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do. In the in the long haul, I think

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Speaker 1: you and all these opinions. You know, what's that? Because

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Speaker 1: you're very good at what you do and because you

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Speaker 1: have you have attracted is significantly more. Let me finish,

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Speaker 1: show him respect you. Yes, you have. You have attracted

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Speaker 1: people who are determined that ideology is more important than facts.

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Speaker 1: And so that's how it ends. And I gave him

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Speaker 1: a long answer, but he didn't put my answer in

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Speaker 1: his piece. And that's what sixty minutes is notorious for

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Speaker 1: six seven, eight five hours interviews and then they just

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Speaker 1: break it down into making conservatives look as bad as

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Speaker 1: they possibly can. I'm not doing it. The answer is

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Speaker 1: no good because all I can see is they would

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Speaker 1: take your words out of context, push their narrative and interest.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what this story is. Before they

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Speaker 1: even you know, get to us, some guy that I

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Speaker 1: guess used to work there, go out in contact with

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Speaker 1: the producer at Fox. Their story is this, Uh, President

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Speaker 1: Trump's friends with this idiot. That's the whole story. You know,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, We're doomed as a country. That's what

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Speaker 1: it is, and they have no earthly idea of the

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Speaker 1: relationship that I have with the President. I support his agenda.

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Speaker 1: I've always supported tax cuts, conservative judges, building a wall

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Speaker 1: piece through strength. I never supported the Iranian deal and

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Speaker 1: never supported bribing dictators. I supported energy independence, deregulation, and

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Speaker 1: you know, everything that he's doing I have expressed as

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Speaker 1: my opinions long before he ever got on the political scene,

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Speaker 1: and that part of the equation they don't want to hear.

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Speaker 1: I'm even arguing that the President is not a populist

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Speaker 1: or a nationalist. I think, you know, make America great again,

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Speaker 1: put America first, good trade deals, free and fair trade,

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Speaker 1: all things I believed in my entire career, which is

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Speaker 1: now thirty years in radio and twenty three and a

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Speaker 1: half on television. I know it's a miracle every day

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Speaker 1: I survive. I pinched myself because they want to destroy

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Speaker 1: this show too quick break right back. We'll continue breaking

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Speaker 1: news straight from the source. This is the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: I said this once or twice, but it bears repeating.

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Speaker 1: And you can keep your plan if you are satisfied

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Speaker 1: with it. If you like the plan you have, you

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Speaker 1: can keep it. If you like your plan and you

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Speaker 1: like your doctor, you won't have to do a thing.

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Speaker 1: You keep your plan. If you like your health care plan,

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to keep your health care plan. If

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Speaker 1: you've got health insurance, you can keep it. If you

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Speaker 1: like your health care plan, you will keep it your plan.

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Speaker 1: If you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you

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Speaker 1: like your plan, you can keep your doctor. You can

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Speaker 1: keep your plan. If you have insurance that you like,

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Speaker 1: then you will be able to keep that insurance. If

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Speaker 1: you like your doctor or health care plan, you can

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Speaker 1: keep it. If you like your health care plan, you

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Speaker 1: can keep your health care plan. If you like your

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Speaker 1: health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.

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Speaker 1: If you like your private health insurance plan, you can

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Speaker 1: keep your plan. If you like your health care plan,

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Speaker 1: you can keep your health care plan. If you like

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Speaker 1: your private health insurance plan, you can keep it. If

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Speaker 1: you want to keep the health insurance you've got, you

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Speaker 1: can keep it. If you like the insurance plan you

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Speaker 1: have now, you can keep it. So. If you like

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Speaker 1: your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like

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Speaker 1: your plan, keep your plan. If you like your current insurance,

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Speaker 1: you will keep your current insurance. If you like your plan.

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Speaker 1: You can keep your plan if you like your plan.

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Speaker 1: You can keep your plan if you're happy with what

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Speaker 1: you got. Nobody's changing it all right, That, of course,

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Speaker 1: was the big promise. Now, they did get rid of

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Speaker 1: the individual mandate, that was part of the economic package

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Speaker 1: that the President got through. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, there are two things that I preferably would

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Speaker 1: like to see done by Congress before the midterm elections,

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Speaker 1: which I am saying will be the most important in

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Speaker 1: your lifetime. This is a referendum on whether or not

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Speaker 1: Democrats get to overturn a duly elected president because you

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Speaker 1: know the two things they are running on, well three

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Speaker 1: actually one they want to impeach the president too. They

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Speaker 1: want to raise your taxes, and they want to take

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Speaker 1: away your tax cuts and free they love to keep Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: three huge things. And we know how many millions across

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Speaker 1: the country are paying so much more for far less

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Speaker 1: than they've ever had before. And yet what frustrated me

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Speaker 1: the most during that entire healthcare debate was the fact

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Speaker 1: that innovative solutions like health savings accounts and healthcare cooperatives.

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Speaker 1: You know, for seven years in this program, we've been

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Speaker 1: putting Dr Josh umber On from from Wichita, Kansas Atlas

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Speaker 1: m d. And And this is a guy that you

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Speaker 1: pay fifty bucks a month as an adult, ten bucks

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Speaker 1: a month as a child unlimited care. He personally, his

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Speaker 1: whole cooperative negotiates directly with the drug companies. They have

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Speaker 1: all the prescription drugs. You need a prescription, you walk

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Speaker 1: out of the doctor's office with it in your hand.

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Speaker 1: You don't go to a pharmacy. And on top of that,

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Speaker 1: you get catastrophic care at a high deductible, the highest

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Speaker 1: you can afford, and that covers god forbid, cancer, heart attack,

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Speaker 1: or a really bad accident. And those things weren't too

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Speaker 1: scuss so before November, I think Republicans ought to keep

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Speaker 1: their promise fully and completely. And the other thing is

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Speaker 1: fund the wall completely as well. Those are two issues

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Speaker 1: that I think would help them in November. Joining us

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Speaker 1: now as Senator uh Dr Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Senator,

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Speaker 1: how are you, hey, Sean, I'm great, man, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. You know a lot of your colleagues, hey,

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Speaker 1: coming on my program. What happened to them? I'm not sure?

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Speaker 1: I love coming on your program. Maybe it's one Irish

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Speaker 1: guy speaking to another Irish guy, or a conservative to

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Speaker 1: a conservative, but whatever, I love it all right. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you about about the possibility. Do you agree

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Speaker 1: with me would be helpful to Republicans to get these

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Speaker 1: two issues off the table, two big promises that they

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Speaker 1: made Repeal and replace and also the opportunity to fund

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Speaker 1: the wall that you know that's a seventy issue for

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Speaker 1: the country. Absolutely, a couple of things. Let me just say,

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Speaker 1: regarding healthcare, you know Trump said he wants to drain

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Speaker 1: the swamp. Right now, there's a huge swamp in healthcare

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Speaker 1: in which everybody's making lots of money, but as the

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Speaker 1: patient is the family paying more and more in premiums,

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Speaker 1: deductibles and co pays. And so if we can drain

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Speaker 1: that swamp, it's going to not always still a promise,

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Speaker 1: it's actually going to also help the average family be

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Speaker 1: able to afford the rest of their life a lot

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Speaker 1: much more. And I think that would be a great

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Speaker 1: way to go into the mid terms. Yeah, no, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Why when the debate over healthcare came up the last time,

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Speaker 1: I mean I read Patient Power. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many years ago. It was put out by the Cato

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Speaker 1: Institute by Musgrave and Goodman. I think, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: these are healthcare savings accounts. And it's just amazing to

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Speaker 1: me that you know, here we have talked about all

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Speaker 1: these things that never came up during this discussion. That

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Speaker 1: was never a bill presented except for you, well know

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Speaker 1: you and well and it was just gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: between you and and Ram Paul, I think you're the

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Speaker 1: only two that talked about health care cooperatives. So in

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Speaker 1: terms of the what you describe with the doctor from

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Speaker 1: whichit all we call direct primary care. We have a

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Speaker 1: bill we've introduced in order to make direct primary care

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Speaker 1: law of Land. I can also say that I worked

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Speaker 1: with John Goodman. You you mentioned them earlier. We had

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Speaker 1: a bill both with Pete Sessions and then with Susan

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Speaker 1: Collins and with Lindsay Graham, which which Heart and Soul

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Speaker 1: was stuff that I worked on with John Goodman. And

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Speaker 1: the point being you give the patient the power is

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Speaker 1: she gets the power of price. For example, if you

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Speaker 1: order a CT scanner and her son's belly, she actually

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Speaker 1: knows the cost of it before she goes to get

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Speaker 1: the test, and if she doesn't like the cost, she

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Speaker 1: can go to someplace else, same quality but a lower price.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that you know the price before you go in,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to find out later. Also, health saving his

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Speaker 1: account reform all into that hellth save his account gives

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Speaker 1: the patient, as you describe earlier, the power to control

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Speaker 1: her own expenses. In that way, if she gets the cancer,

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Speaker 1: she goes into the catastrophic, but she can control her expenses.

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Speaker 1: You can bind our price transparency, and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you have a functioning market that's lowering cost. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 1: I mean I I poor Dr Josh Umber. Now he's

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Speaker 1: been able to to institutionalize the things that he does

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Speaker 1: for his patients in Wichita. There there's almost a thousand

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Speaker 1: places now that have opened up, you know similar practices.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine unlimited care for an adult fifty bucks

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Speaker 1: a month and you get everything except the heart attack,

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Speaker 1: the bad accident, or the cancer taken care of, and

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Speaker 1: that could be handled through an inexpensive catastrophic account. And

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Speaker 1: the nice thing about it, the doctor is your advocate.

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Speaker 1: So if you need a coal and ask if I'm

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Speaker 1: a gas frinch, Aroler just said, I think about these things.

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Speaker 1: I'm told that someone like Josh doesn't just send you

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Speaker 1: to their friend, or doesn't just send you down the

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Speaker 1: street without further investigating. Gonna send where you get the

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Speaker 1: best price, the best experience, because otherwise, why would you

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Speaker 1: go back to Josh. Your experience reflects upon your experience

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Speaker 1: with Josh, and so there's a vested interest for that

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Speaker 1: doctor to make sure that you get the best wherever

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Speaker 1: you go. That's a good thing. Yeah, No, I agree.

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Speaker 1: What made you become a doctor? You know, I've become

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Speaker 1: a senator after you're a doctor, and I know Ram

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Speaker 1: Paul same thing. Why would anybody want to go to Washington?

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? I mean, there's some underlying issues

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Speaker 1: that you need to have dealt with yourself, you know.

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Speaker 1: At its best. By the way, there's no wonder why

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Speaker 1: people won't come on my show because I'm a jerk.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't come on my show either. I'm just teasing. No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: At its best, medicine and politics is about serving another person,

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Speaker 1: taking as much knowledge as you can put together and

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Speaker 1: bringing it to a point for that one issue, that

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Speaker 1: one patient of one diagnosis. I'm privileged to do both,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of when the nation's gross domestic products

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Speaker 1: healthcare having experience as I have, is a fantastic way

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Speaker 1: to approach being a senator. I gotta tell you, I

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Speaker 1: really like your state of Louisiana. I've been down there

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Speaker 1: a number of times. I know you guys have had

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Speaker 1: a lot of catastrophes over the year with Katrina and

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Speaker 1: some other catastrophes, but um, it's such a great state, wonderful,

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Speaker 1: heartwarming people and then you got you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: definitely represents everything that is freedom, crazy and fun, especially

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Speaker 1: if you include Marti Gras and all that. Well, I

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Speaker 1: kind of chuckle, but you can say that our state,

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Speaker 1: we were the only state that came into the Union,

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Speaker 1: and they published the articles in three different languages, French, Spanish,

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Speaker 1: and English, and you still don't see that kind of reflected.

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Speaker 1: You come to New Orleans and you see that kind

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Speaker 1: of cuisine which is incredibly distinct, and that's because it's

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Speaker 1: an amalgamation of three different cultures. It makes the music,

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Speaker 1: the culture, and the food just just in incredibly good experience.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I thank you, Dr Cassidy. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Senator Bill Cassidy in Louisiana eight hundred nine for one, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to our phones here. Let's say hi to

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Speaker 1: dan Is in Michigan. Dan, Hi, how are you glad

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Speaker 1: you called? Sir? Hey Sean, how you doing? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: What's happening? Um? Hey? Can I as as a representative

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Speaker 1: of all us strong crazy Trump supporters, and I asked

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Speaker 1: a favorite ob Yes, sir, could you simply, on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis, demand that Donald Trump owes it to his

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Speaker 1: half of the country that that loves him to fire

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Speaker 1: Rosenstein and fire Muller. His button is bigger. It's all true,

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Speaker 1: and the article too. He can fire all of them.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem the president has. It's a political problem.

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Speaker 1: It's a perception problem. Uh. Yeah, I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: I think in every way imaginable. This has been a

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Speaker 1: witch hunt. You know. We have chronicled let's see surveillance abuse,

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Speaker 1: unmasking abuse in this country, leaking raw intelligence in this country.

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Speaker 1: We have discussed Yeah, there war FISA warrants issued against

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and Trump campaign associate. Yes, FISA courts

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Speaker 1: were law lied to Yeah, Hillary. In fact, the fix

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Speaker 1: was in the whole investigation was rigged. We've got some

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Speaker 1: really serious issues that we're dealing with in terms of

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Speaker 1: law and order and abuse of power and corruption, all

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Speaker 1: of which is true. And unfortunately the President got caught

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Speaker 1: up in this in large part because Jeff's sessions allowed it.

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Speaker 1: And but it's the hand we're now dealt and I

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Speaker 1: think that the moment may come and I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: that there's information that will come out that is so

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Speaker 1: damning that people like Rod Rosensteined are gonna be in deep,

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Speaker 1: deep trouble. We already know. Look, McCabe has been criminally referred.

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Speaker 1: When the i G report comes out, and the FBI

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Speaker 1: special agents that testify before Gaudy and good Let when

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Speaker 1: they tell their story, I am telling you there will

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Speaker 1: be no choice. I would expect criminal referrals for many

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Speaker 1: of the people that we talk about regularly on this program.

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Speaker 1: So it's unfortunately, it's it's just a matter of time

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Speaker 1: now because the wheels are in motion, and they never

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Speaker 1: thought they'd get caught. They all thought she'd win. They

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Speaker 1: all thought this was gonna end perfectly and the American

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Speaker 1: people would have known nothing about this. But it didn't

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Speaker 1: work out that way. I'd say one more thing, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, um okay, and everything you just said I

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Speaker 1: agree with. But that was like for a year ago

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Speaker 1: or half a year ago. Everyone everyone now knows he's

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Speaker 1: an innocent man, and and Sean, if he's an innocent

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Speaker 1: man and fires them today, there's no way the Democrats

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Speaker 1: would have the political power to impeach him. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get seventy six US senators to to kick him

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Speaker 1: out of office. So he's he's innocent, and if the

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Speaker 1: House tries to hold a trial, it will prove that

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Speaker 1: they're more guilty and he's more innocent. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying the political powers behind him now to get rid

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Speaker 1: of them, and then him to dare them to try

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Speaker 1: to remove him from office. Well, I think it's all

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Speaker 1: about removing him from office anyway. Appreciate you. That's all

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Speaker 1: is It's all that's always been about. Will Is in Chicago, Will, Hi,

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Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? Hey? Sean? How you doing.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had a good memorial I did. I

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Speaker 1: have a good vacation. I'm rebbed up, ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I needed some time. I get very very very clear

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Speaker 1: when I take days off, and it's helpful in terms

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Speaker 1: of I begin to my create, my creative juices begin

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Speaker 1: to flow more so I feel in a good spot. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's it's unfortunate for us goes and when

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Speaker 1: I tune in and I don't see I'm like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: John's on vacation. But I love I love all the

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Speaker 1: guys that fill in for you. Thank you. Here here's

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Speaker 1: my question as a conservative. Okay that I am, and

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Speaker 1: I watched your program religiously, and I know that there's

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Speaker 1: great people Sarah Carter, John Solomon, Greg Jared, all these

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Speaker 1: great contributors you have that have been working tirelessly on

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Speaker 1: uncovering all this corruption. What can we realistically expect because

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Speaker 1: right now the Republicans control the House in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: But what if that changes, What if it does in

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Speaker 1: the November of the midterm elections. I mean, can we

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Speaker 1: realistically expect if there is a shift in control, that

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Speaker 1: any of this will get off the ground and any

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Speaker 1: of these people will be indicted for example? You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Is that a first question? Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's a fair question. Yeah. Look, I'm gonna here's where

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Speaker 1: we're gonna end up here, is that I believe that

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Speaker 1: there we're not gonna win everything that is right and

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Speaker 1: just here. You know that. But there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of these deep state actors because the deep

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Speaker 1: state always protects the deep state. But there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of these actors here that just skate under

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Speaker 1: the surface, that probably got away with massive, massive abuse

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Speaker 1: of power. Absolutely, so I believe that this will go

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Speaker 1: in my personal opinion, without having the evidence in front

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Speaker 1: of me, I know it in my heart. This goes

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Speaker 1: all the way back to Obama. There's no way this

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Speaker 1: guy didn't know what was going on. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: it for a second. The question is has judged the

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Speaker 1: Politano would say, can you prove it? Good question, can

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Speaker 1: you prove it? No, they're not going to prove collusion.

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Speaker 1: You know. That's why every single charge that has been

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Speaker 1: made here is not connected. And the idea that these

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Speaker 1: thirteen Russian bot companies were indicted and they thought they'd

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Speaker 1: never respond to these charges, and even one of the

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Speaker 1: companies didn't exist at the time, it just shows you

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Speaker 1: the desire for Mueller to create a perception, a false

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Speaker 1: narrative of belief that yeah, Russia, Russia, because then you

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Speaker 1: could say, well, Manaphort and Russia, Manafort had nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with Russia. That indictment, well, well, General Flynn, same thing.

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Speaker 1: In the end. We have an amazing Hannity tonight on

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Speaker 1: the Fox News Channel. All right, we have Michael Caputo,

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Speaker 1: Sam Clovis, and Carter Page, three people that were approached

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Speaker 1: by the FBI spy in the Trump campaign. An exclusive

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Speaker 1: interview Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett will join us. Also Sebastian Gorka,

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Speaker 1: Dan Bongino, Ed Henry and Moore, Nineties Turn City DVR.

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Speaker 1: Hannity on the Fox News Channel are exclusive interviews. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to miss it. See tonight at nine. Back

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow.