WEBVTT - Carbon Monoxide: Please Just Listen Anyway

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<v Speaker 1>Attention everyone, This is a public service announcement that you

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<v Speaker 1>should hear.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. We have mentioned it before quite a few times,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is what we would call the last call

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<v Speaker 2>for our live shows coming up May fourth in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>other shows in the Northeast this year for this topic,

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<v Speaker 2>so aside from a few shows in the southeast this fall,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck and Jerry's here too, and this is Stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know. PSA edition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we haven't done a good old PSA in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember some of our other ones? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>bring any to mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, don't play in the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's one.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, don't jump out of a hot air balloon without

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<v Speaker 2>a parachute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, h celo fane bags in you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, boy, that was a good one, sure was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then this one, it's it carbon monoxide. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if there's a few people out there that are

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<v Speaker 1>searching for our cellophane bags episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well here's the short version. Don't put them over

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<v Speaker 2>your head.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. Yep, that was our first short stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably shouldn't have laughed at that because that exchange wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>funny at all. And chuck, we should not be joky

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<v Speaker 1>at all. This is a very serious episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, carbon monoxide.

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<v Speaker 1>Not dioxide, manaide. It's I lesser.

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<v Speaker 2>Said co two when I was talking to you offline.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and if you search for carbon monoxide or COO,

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<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide still comes up page one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's if I were a carbon monoxide i'd be seething

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<v Speaker 1>with rage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, put COO in the limelight for a change.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason that this is well, that's what we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and the reason that this is a PSA everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>is that carbon monoxide is a deadly gas. Deadly poisoned

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<v Speaker 1>toxic gas to humans. But you can't tell that you're

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<v Speaker 1>being poisoned until it's potentially too late and you're either

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<v Speaker 1>very very sick or very very dead. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why this is a PSA further is because we live

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<v Speaker 1>among carbon monoxide quite a bit or else, potential carbon

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<v Speaker 1>monoxide sources all over the place. Our whole world is

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<v Speaker 1>laden with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, if I can pull a little piece from

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<v Speaker 2>later in this great article from Libya, let me spring

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<v Speaker 2>this one on you. It's also it's a silent killer,

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<v Speaker 2>known as the silent killer, but it's not the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing as like a gas leak, So a gas leak

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<v Speaker 2>is a completely different thing. They make a gas leak

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<v Speaker 2>smell bad on purpose, so you can detect a gas

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<v Speaker 2>leak that they don't do that with CEO because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a smell that's produced as a result of something. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like they can say, hey, let's add a

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<v Speaker 2>farty smell to CEO so everyone knows when it's around.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Because a gas leak is like the actual fuel

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't made it to the combustion process yet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they can add something, but carbon monoxide is a

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<v Speaker 1>is one hundred percent produced by combustion, right, in particular

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<v Speaker 1>a specific kind of a combustion, which would be incomplete combustion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and boy, I never knew this at all in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. And I've heard of carbon monoxide, have carbon

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<v Speaker 2>monoxide detectors. I knew a little bit about it here

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<v Speaker 2>and there, but I never knew that combustion like is

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<v Speaker 2>generally almost always inefficient. And there is apparently a perfect

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<v Speaker 2>combustion called stoia chiometric combustion, which it's the most efficient

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<v Speaker 2>way something can burn, releasing water, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide

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<v Speaker 2>full stop. But apparently that's just that never happens. There's

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<v Speaker 2>always an inefficiency, and that's where the carbon monoxide comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw another term for that kind of combustion

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<v Speaker 1>is theoretical combustion. Like it just doesn't exist. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no such thing as perfect combustion, but I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>people out there trying to crack that egg. Sure, so

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<v Speaker 1>with because like just about anytime we burn a fuel,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incomplete or imperfect combustion. Those byproducts that could release

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<v Speaker 1>with complete combustion are joined or replaced by some much

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<v Speaker 1>less desirable ones like carbon monoxide, which again is the

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<v Speaker 1>silly killer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, silent but deadly.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a few reasons why combustion is typically incomplete,

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<v Speaker 1>at least as far as stuff that you and I

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<v Speaker 1>would mess around with.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I mean there may not be enough. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got to have the right mix of air kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like and we'll get into car into car engines a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit later, but the mix of like air to

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<v Speaker 2>fuel as far as a car burning lean or burning

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<v Speaker 2>rich or a fuel burning leaner rich. The same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with just a fire, if there's not enough air there,

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<v Speaker 2>or the air doesn't mix with the fuel like it should,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe if it is extinguished too quickly, or the temperature

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<v Speaker 2>cools down before the fuel has burned up. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is where you can get those inefficiencies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like whether you have too much or too

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<v Speaker 1>little air, it's not a good thing. So it's really

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult to get it just perfect. Actually it's impossible,

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<v Speaker 1>but even to get close is really really difficult. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's always going to be some carbon monoxide, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>we've known for quite a while that it's a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>At least as far back as the thirteenth century. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a alchemist in Spain named arnolaue Villa Nova. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said that I don't know how he figured

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<v Speaker 1>this out. I looked, I couldn't find it. That burning wood,

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<v Speaker 1>in complete combustion of wood produces some poisonous gas that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't attempt to name, but he did identify it first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, there you have it. Thirteenth century. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>they knew something was out there and could kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit later, in sixteen forty four, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a scientist from France named Johann Baptista von Helmont.

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<v Speaker 1>Very French name names used to be so much better.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, they had like curly cues on them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my god, it's amazing. He described dying basically,

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<v Speaker 2>or coming close to dying, from inhaling what he called

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<v Speaker 2>gas carbonum, which was, you know, probably a mixture of things,

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<v Speaker 2>but carbon monoxide was definitely in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. And then jose Priestley came along, right, not Jason Joseph.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, you took the Jason right out of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember him. He showed up in our nitrous oxide episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I knew he had heard of him before, because

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<v Speaker 2>I knew he had made a Jason Priestley joke before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, for sure, there's no way you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So he was a chemist from England and he's

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<v Speaker 2>the one that they point to as sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>true discoverer of carbon monoxide, even though he had a

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<v Speaker 2>really bad name for it too. He was doing experimentation

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<v Speaker 2>in the seventeen seventies and he's the guy that basically said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, air isn't just one thing like air

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of gases in it, and this one

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<v Speaker 2>thing is really important we should pay attention to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna call it deflogid Oh man, I had it

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<v Speaker 2>so good earlier, deflogisticated air. Yeah, And everyone else said, eh,

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<v Speaker 2>call it oxygen.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, fine, I like Miney Moore. He's got curly

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<v Speaker 1>cues on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Deflogelisticated. Wow, that's a mouthful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an old timey word. If that's not I've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard an old timey word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So he also found carbon monoxide, which you called heavy

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<v Speaker 1>inflammable air, and I finally just taved and looked up

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<v Speaker 1>why inflammable inflammable are the same? Yeah, inflammable was original,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently it just confused everybody so much, and because

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<v Speaker 1>it described such a dangerous thing. They dropped the ind

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<v Speaker 1>and just went with flammable from that point on.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did we talk about this before?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know. It sound new to me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we've talked about this before. For once, I remember something,

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<v Speaker 2>okay in my little feeble brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't remember the topic, but I definitely remember

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<v Speaker 2>us talking about this. But you know what, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think you had that little tidbit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay, we just wondered about it maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so that was back in our days of

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<v Speaker 2>just like complaining about not knowing something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here at the advent of year fifteen. Uh huh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have finally solved that mystery. Chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, niversary, Happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Anniversary, Happy anniversary too, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>She could speak through the tape your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh wow, Jerry just threw me off. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we don't let her talk, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Quiet you. And by the way, people that

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<v Speaker 2>think we're being mean to Jerry just down.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had to go through that before him.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people thought we were genuinely mean to Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>about this stuff. But we're family, we're siblings, so we

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<v Speaker 2>poke fun at.

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<v Speaker 1>Each other exactly and we haven't for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we don't poke. You and I don't poke fun

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<v Speaker 2>at each other on the air generally, No, But boy,

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<v Speaker 2>off the.

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<v Speaker 1>Air, Wow, it's a poking fest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're always poking my belly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing mine, and I say, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, kids did that when I was a kid to usually, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because the same thing happened to you, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. I was such a people pleaser. I

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<v Speaker 1>just went along with it like it was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had a little chubby belly and then I

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<v Speaker 2>got skinny, and then I got chubby. So I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get skinny again.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the cycle in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, Yeah, the circle of life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we should get back to it though. Eh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you might say why Okay, guys, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Carbon monoxide the silent killer, and you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>air quotes every time you say that. Everybody. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. It's deadly. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>around it. But exactly how is it deadly? And that

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the reasons we are here. We're here

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<v Speaker 1>to explain why it's deadly, because if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the chemical makeup of a carbon monoxide molecule, one carbon atom,

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<v Speaker 1>one oxygen atom. Right, but they are bound really tightly.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a triple covalent blond, which means that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't react with stuff very easily, so plants are safe

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<v Speaker 1>from it. Basically, anything that doesn't breathe has no problems

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<v Speaker 1>with carbon monoxide. But we breathe, and carbon monoxide tricks

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<v Speaker 1>our bodies into substituting oxygen for carbon monoxide because it

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<v Speaker 1>binds to our hemoglobin, which transports oxygen throughout the body

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<v Speaker 1>and the blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the reasons why it takes oxygen's places

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<v Speaker 1>because it's two hundred and ten times more attractive to

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<v Speaker 1>hemoglobin than oxygen. Iss.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And just quickly, you and me and Jerry,

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<v Speaker 2>we have also a triple covalent bond.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right. It just occurred to me and we're

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<v Speaker 1>very non reactive.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. But what you were saying was hemoglobin is

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<v Speaker 2>like hubba hubba when it comes to that CEO, and

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<v Speaker 2>oxygen's like, no, you're supposed to be bonding with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and hemoglobin says, but I'm so much more attracted to

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<v Speaker 2>the carbon monoxide. And it's it's just one of those

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<v Speaker 2>weird things that happens in the body.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that meme where the guy is walking with

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<v Speaker 1>this girlfriend, but he's turned around looking at another girl.

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<v Speaker 1>The other girl is carbon monoxide, his girlfriend's oxen. He

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<v Speaker 1>is hemoglobin.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually seen that one. I'm not the biggest meme guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know exactly what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Good and it's really apt if you ask me. It

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<v Speaker 1>actually fits a lot of stuff. But one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to point out, and this is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why carbon monoxide is so deadly. It's deadly in very

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<v Speaker 1>very small amounts because it can so quickly replace the

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<v Speaker 1>oxygen in your blood stream and your tissues. Your organs

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<v Speaker 1>they need oxygen. So if instead they're getting carbon monoxide

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<v Speaker 1>delivered to them, they're they're going to enter hypoxia, and

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<v Speaker 1>you become oxygen deprived, your organs become oxygen deprived, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>your heart's going to stop, you might suffer brain damage.

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<v Speaker 1>If you survive, at the very least, you're probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to faint, maybe throw up. And again, it's because it's

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ten times more attractive to hemoglobin. So

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the stat chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if there's.

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<v Speaker 1>A concentration of ero point zero five percent carbon monoxide

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<v Speaker 1>in the air you're breathing and nothing nothing, and fifteen percent,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent of the air is oxygen. When that when

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of carbon monoxide in your blood like reaches equilibrium,

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<v Speaker 1>forty one percent of your blood is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>carbon monoxide from just from that, that's the disparity that

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<v Speaker 1>takes just that little amount to overwhelm the oxygen in

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<v Speaker 1>your body, and all of a sudden you're in big trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it depends on who you are and

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. If you're one of our senior friends.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a little baby friend, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger trouble with co Obviously, if you're like exercising

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<v Speaker 2>really heavily and like, you know, breathing a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>and your heart rates really high, then it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a little more dangerous if it's in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's some parts per million stats for you. Sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand parts per million, which is a lot. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we're not saying like, and this could happen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just walking around and breathing air.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but thousand parts per million, you're basically taking rips

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<v Speaker 1>off of a tailpipe of a nineteen seventy buick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a ton. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as evidence, that will kill you off in like a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes, right, So don't do that. PSA, let's cut

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<v Speaker 2>it down to like four hundred, Like three fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred should be fine, right, No, you will die

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<v Speaker 2>in three to five hours. You're gonna, you know, feel

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<v Speaker 2>like symptoms coming on. So hopefully it's the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you recognize is going on, like bad headaches,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably nausea, dizziness, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's one of the problems is it's like you

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<v Speaker 1>could be nauseous or dizzy from anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people like carbon monoxide poisoning well.

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<v Speaker 2>And they do say like, if I mean there's something

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<v Speaker 2>this is the acute kind of poisoning, but there's also

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<v Speaker 2>the uh what's the other kind?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh chronic?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the chronic kind. They say, if like, if everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in your house gets sick at the same time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not always a cold, like, you might want to

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<v Speaker 2>check for carbon monoxide in your house.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So the carbon monoxide in your blood mixing with

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<v Speaker 1>hemoglobin creates a molecule ca carboxy hemoglobin, and it sticks

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<v Speaker 1>around for four hours and as long as you have

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of carbon monoxide streaming through your blood and

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<v Speaker 1>then your tissues. Yeah, even though you've stepped out into

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<v Speaker 1>like fresh air, you figured it out. You realize you've

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<v Speaker 1>listened to this episode. You know that you have carbon

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<v Speaker 1>monoxide poisoning. You've left your house or breathing fresh air,

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<v Speaker 1>you still got four hours of working that stuff out.

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<v Speaker 1>And during that four hours, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very it's going to be very dangerous for you. So

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go to the hospital. When you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the hospital, they're probably going to stick you in

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<v Speaker 1>a hyperbaric chamber and start pumping you full of oxygen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the very least puts you on oxygen in

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<v Speaker 2>some fashion, just with a mask, even while you're waiting. Probably. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>although this seems like one of those emergency situations to

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<v Speaker 2>where hopefully it's recognized and they get you in like

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the other thing. If you I mean, eventually

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<v Speaker 2>when you flush it out, you can be okay, But

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<v Speaker 2>can you can also relapse like a few weeks later? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get relap symptoms, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a brain fog or fatigue or that headache

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<v Speaker 2>or nausea or dizziness or something coming back on. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can get permanent damage if it's if

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<v Speaker 2>it's severe enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we talked about chronic poisoning. You can get

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<v Speaker 1>chronic carbon monoxide poisoning if you're exposed to something as

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<v Speaker 1>little as nine parts per million for longer than eight hours,

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<v Speaker 1>which is well below the OSHA standard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fifty per million days in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean this basically wants to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Right. So, and actually, if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital and you're like, I've got all these weird,

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<v Speaker 1>unexplained symptoms, but I'm not fainting or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not you know, I haven't been sucking off a

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<v Speaker 1>Buick tail pipe or anything. Right, They're gonna start asking

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<v Speaker 1>you questions about your lifestyle, like where do you live,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do? And if it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>you like live above a greyhound bus terminal, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>make those phone calls, obscene phone calls where you're breathing

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<v Speaker 1>heavily a lot, they might say, I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>carbon monoxide poisoning of the chronic variety.

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<v Speaker 2>We should do one on bus strips.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you could say obscene phone calls.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, we should do that too, Okay. The Jerky Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been wanting to do one on the history

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<v Speaker 1>of prank calling. There's actually a pretty rich history there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be fun. Actually, I remember we'll take a

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<v Speaker 2>break here in a sec, but very quickly. I was

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<v Speaker 2>one of those guys who got the Jerky Boys from

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<v Speaker 2>a friend on a cassette like years before it was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the internet obviously or any kind of like.

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<v Speaker 2>They I think they did like a movie even, didn't they, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they did. Yeah, this is when like the cassette was

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<v Speaker 2>being passed around the school yard kind of thing. Nice

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<v Speaker 2>and boy, I thought it was a funny thing I

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny. Even just saying the name makes me laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Jerky Boys, Yeah, they didn't laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I laughed inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, should we take that break?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we should.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerky Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, chuck? So oh, I know, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>could say the Beverly Hills supper Club fire had some

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<v Speaker 1>PSA qualities to it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, we were talking about the supper clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're talking about especially in northern Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck, Yeah, yeah, so flammable curtains probably too were inflammable.

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<v Speaker 1>But death by fire is not a good way to die.

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<v Speaker 1>But very few people die from burning to death. You

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<v Speaker 1>usually are dead long before you really start burning up

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<v Speaker 1>through smoke inhalation. And although apparently they don't quantify statistics

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<v Speaker 1>as to this smoke, this type of smoke, or this

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<v Speaker 1>compound in the smoke killed the person, like carbon monoxide,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a pretty safe assumption that carbon monoxide

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<v Speaker 1>poisoning has killed people in fires pretty frequently. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure it's part of that deadly cocktail that you're inhaling.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also part of a deadly cocktail you're inhaling. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're a cigarette smoker, you are willingly ingesting carbon monoxide

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<v Speaker 2>into your body when you smoke a cigarette. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>step for you that carboxy hemoglobin we were talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what happens when hemoglobin binds with the CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>A typical level if you're just walking around on the

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<v Speaker 2>street is under one percent. If you smoke a packat

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<v Speaker 2>a you're living at about three to six percent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you smoke a hookah, especially in the traditional way

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<v Speaker 2>where you're actually burning the tobacco on coal or charcoal,

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a lot more CEO than that, even almost

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<v Speaker 2>at T two. And incense is another offender that can bring.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're burning incense in your house a lot, like

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<v Speaker 2>all day long, you can get up to nine point

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<v Speaker 2>six parts per million in your home. And I used

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<v Speaker 2>to burn I used to burn incense in college. I

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<v Speaker 2>was into it for a little while. Yeah, me too,

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<v Speaker 2>But now when I smell it, I'm so turned off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird because it's a little bit of a nostalgia hit,

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<v Speaker 2>like oh yeah, sandal would okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, are you talking specifically about nog.

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<v Speaker 2>CHOMPA I don't remember, no chump.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the couintessential hippie, not PETULLI like the hippie

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<v Speaker 1>incense stick would be nog chop.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it black or brown?

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<v Speaker 1>Brown? Like a light brown?

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<v Speaker 2>I usually liked most of the browns. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 2>the blacks. They were way too pungent for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh then I just you know that was it

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<v Speaker 2>was a very short phase. It kind of overlapped with

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<v Speaker 2>my listening to the doors pace, probably, But once I

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<v Speaker 2>was done with incense, I was done such that if

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<v Speaker 2>I walk into like some hippie dippy crystal shop and

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<v Speaker 2>it's got incense going, I got to get out of there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, to mean, I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in college, I got so into incense,

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<v Speaker 1>so hardcore and incense. I moved past the stick incense

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<v Speaker 1>and have little brass burns, not even little brass burners,

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<v Speaker 1>with little charcoal discs that you would put like resin,

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<v Speaker 1>like frankincense on, and I would sit around and burn

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<v Speaker 1>that all day long. And when I read this, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, it's not good and a lot for sure. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>smoking indoors too as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You've cleaned up your ac now not a good champ.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But I also you know, I used to finging

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for no good reason and throw up on

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<v Speaker 1>my I saw somenight. Now I understand why.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not funny at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it not? Well, then maybe I'll just retract that statement.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I'm laughing, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>laugh at your expense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't actually faint and throw up on myself?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are you laughing because I was such a hippie

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<v Speaker 1>I burned Frankenson.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I thought you were serious that you fainted and

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<v Speaker 2>threw up on yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no I did. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who faints occasionally, so you know

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<v Speaker 2>it could be a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, you should ask that friend if they live above

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<v Speaker 1>a Greyhound bus terminal.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he doesn't live over there. So, like I said before,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a little baby, or if you're a senior citizen,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna if you have chronic heart disease, even if

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<v Speaker 2>you have anemia, if you have asthma, like obviously, all

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff is going to exacerbate any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>effects from carbon monoxide getting into your body. But about

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred Americans die from and this doesn't include fires,

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<v Speaker 2>This is just accidental coe poisoning every year, which isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but about one hundred thousand go to the

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<v Speaker 2>er because of this and fourteen thousand are hospitalized overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, those are negligible, not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean four hundred people dying is I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this is all very preventable too, is We'll see, because

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<v Speaker 1>when carbon monoxide gets in your house, it's not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, there's something wrong with something you're using.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually some sort of fossil fuel burning appliance is the culprit,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about incomplete combustion. That basically is what's

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<v Speaker 1>to blame across the board. Yeah, one of the big

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<v Speaker 1>ones that kills people or at least makes them sick

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<v Speaker 1>and sends them to the hospital is unvented space heaters,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you say those words together, you're like, this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a bad idea, And in fact, unvented space

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<v Speaker 1>heaters are number fifteen on a Consumer Product Safety Commission

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<v Speaker 1>list of three hundred and fifty of the most dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>household products.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and to be clear, these are natural gas or

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<v Speaker 2>kerosene burning heaters of electric heaters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like the kind that's maybe the size of

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<v Speaker 1>like a old timey suitcase, like an old samsonite that

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<v Speaker 1>get really bright and that you might have in your house,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the South where a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the South South don't have central heat because it doesn't

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>get that that cold very often, it's not worth the investment,

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.959
<v Speaker 1>especially back in the day, so they might have an

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<v Speaker 1>unvented just a portable space heater. Basically that runs on kerosene,

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>and the problem is, if you don't open your windows

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<v Speaker 1>while you're running that thing, there's a good chance you're

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>going to accidentally poison yourself with carbon monoxide. And that's

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>counterintuitive because people use those because it's cold outside, and

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.639
<v Speaker 1>you don't usually open your windows when it's cold outside,

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<v Speaker 1>so it actually does lead to a lot of problems

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>for people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my grandmother Bryant, my dad's mom, Opal, who lived

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<v Speaker 2>to be one hundred plus, had and these weren't gas

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<v Speaker 2>fired or anything, but she had called them chill chasers

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<v Speaker 2>in the wall. Oh do you ever Did you ever

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 2>see those? And I'm sure they were all over the place,

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 2>but I saw them a lot in the South in

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 2>older houses where they're just they're built in space heaters

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<v Speaker 2>in the wall, like recessed into the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, I guess I know what you're talking about.

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Sure, which is a little timer switch on it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was super super cool, like in her bathroom and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love those, like old timey details of old

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>houses like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or like a cutout in the hallway for a phone.

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or like a telephone like a tile toothbrush holder

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that matches the rest of the tile. It's just he

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>sticks out and holds your toothbrushes and will love that

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of those kerosene or natural gas heaters, though, if

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 2>you get a new one, they almost always now have

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<v Speaker 2>a sensor on it, an oxygen sensor that will read

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the air and shut that thing off. But if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got an older one and it didn't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>like four years old, you know, I'm not sure when

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<v Speaker 2>those oxygen sensors came along, but I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>semi recent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twenty twenty two probably.

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<v Speaker 2>No, boy, I'm really getting you left.

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<v Speaker 1>And right today.

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<v Speaker 2>Just this is gullible day for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that's good to know, noted.

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<v Speaker 2>But cooking appliances obviously, furnaces, fireplaces, car exhaust is a

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<v Speaker 2>big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Chok. I got to stop you there, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>why we're here right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Bsa time.

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<v Speaker 1>I we have an attached garage that leads right to

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen. The door does, and I stopped our car

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and got out and went inside and just went about

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 1>my day. But I left the car running with the

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 1>garage store closed. Just I've never done it before in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, never even come close. It just happened because,

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<v Speaker 1>in my defense, it's a hybrid, so it's easy to

0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>forget to turn it off because there's really not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot going on when you turn it on or off

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 1>when it's in electric mode. And of course like it's like, oh,

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I better start charging myself, and the gas burning part

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 1>kicked in and me opened the door and was like,

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the car's running. And so we started

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>researching carbon monoxide and found that it's actually kind of

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a problem. Luckily we were fine. Oh wow, Mamo was fine.

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you didn't get suspicious. But what do you

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>mean then, you know, like bring you up on charges.

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Like I was trying to poison a lot of us?

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe?

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Sure, No, she knows me a little better than.

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>That, Momo. That that's the danger there. I'm glad.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Momo was okay, yes, And that is why we were

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>most freaked out because she's tiny. So if you like,

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of carbon monoxide can and really

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>screw up somebody with a ten pound frame, you know.

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why don't those hybrids just say car on, car off?

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, be very easy to do that, yeah,

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>or just keep beeping or something like the car is

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>still on dummy, Mine doesn't get that, or just had

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<v Speaker 1>just do.

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>The car on car off and then you could get

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 2>celebrity reads. You could have like Samuel L. Jackson do

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 2>it right, or Matthew mcconnie car on babe. That mine

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>would be Sammy Davis Junior.

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>But do Christopher Walkin doing?

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't do walk in that?

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Does you do.

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Car off?

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good? You could also have passed that off

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 1>as a shinner.

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably so car off? Goodness me. Kevin Pollack, he

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 2>should have been on. He should have done a very

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 2>quick little guest to word read for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, it's not too late this this episode hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been edited yet.

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>He probably would, let's find out. Speaking of bad decisions,

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 2>if you lived in Texas in twenty twenty one, when

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<v Speaker 2>they had that terrible frozen storm that came through and

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>their power grid failed, a lot of people we're like, hey,

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>let's bring in this weber grill and load it full

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>of charcoal and keep ourselves warm. It sounds like a

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 2>very not smart thing to do. But not everyone understands this.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Not everyone knows that COO would be omitted. I think

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>people get desperate when they're in danger. Of freezing to

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 2>death maybe and that kind of thing can happened. Eleven

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 2>people died. About fourteen hundred people went to the emergency

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<v Speaker 2>room for COO poisoning in Texas that year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that storm, not just the whole year, I think,

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>And that was almost a year's worth of statistics right there.

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>And it was in like basically a few days. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the worst things I saw I read a

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>pro public article about this is that afterward Texas considered

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and then rejected requiring carbon monoxide detectors and houses. It's like,

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and people from all over the world with you know,

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>live fires in their in their homes and their huts,

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>in their small spaces. About a third of the people

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>of the world use open fires. Some of them run

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>on kerosene and stuff. But you know, as we saw

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>in Guatemala, a lot of times these things are just

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>just wood burning fires in your home that they're cooking with,

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know, they ventilate things as well as they can.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>But it's a big problem. The World Health Organization says

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>that household air pollution and this is everything combined, but

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<v Speaker 2>a portion of this is obviously going to be due

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>to carbon monoxide, but it killed more than three million

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>people in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember we did that thing for Toyota about

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the Carnegie Mellon invention as sure like dance off. One

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of the entrants invented a portable basically a ovenvent hood

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>to be used indoors, and remember you could. It was

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>super cheap and easy to use. I mean imagine like

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that was a heights cold kid too, if I'm not

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>mistaken her, at least a college student. And this is

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>back in like two thousand and eight, So hats off

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to that person's foresight and insight totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we take our hats off and take a break

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<v Speaker 2>to Yes, let's all right, we'll be right back. All right,

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 2>we're back. We did talk about all the dangers of

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>like home appliances and fires and all that kind of stuff.

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>There was one more that we didn't talk about, and

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that happens very frequently after a disaster, like say a hurricane,

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>where people use a portable generator too close to their

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>house and the fuse while the carbon monox it ends

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.719
<v Speaker 1>up drifting in and killing people.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need to get that thing away from your window.

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>At least twenty feet.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially if it's open. All right, I love it.

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Another little psa.

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<v Speaker 1>Tidbit psa within a psa chuck.

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like seconds per second.

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I think even physics people were like, yeah,

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it's through a bonehead term.

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But like I said, we were talking about all

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>these dangers of things that you can use that will

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>increase the carbon monoxide in your life, but you're also

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>going to experience it just walking around the world. In

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 2>urban areas, it's going to be higher, usually about ten

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>parts per million. If it's a very heavy trafficked city,

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>it can be as high as fifty parts per million

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.239
<v Speaker 2>just in the air that you're breathing walking around. And

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>this is from you know, just from humans driving cars

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>mainly or burning fuel of any type. Your old nemesis,

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the leaf blower, And this is a hard to believe,

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>but Lyvia found this estimate from this one source that

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<v Speaker 2>said a gas powered leaf blower for half an hour

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<v Speaker 2>has the same amount of hydrocarbon emissions as a thirty

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>nine hundred mile drive and a F one raptor.

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we talked about that stat and the noise pollution

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>episode about leaf blowers that they were that also put

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>out that much emissions too.

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>So all this to say that it doesn't have to

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>be some big gigondo car, right, Like your small two

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>stroke engines are putting a lot of this in the

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>air as.

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, right, But if you put enough cars together, all

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the little bits of CEO that they put out are

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>going to combine and be problematic, especially if you live

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in places like Fairbanks, Alaska, right where there's something called

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>an atmospheric conversion that typically happens there where the warm

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>air gets on top of the coal there and traps

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that coal there, which is one reason Fairbanks so called

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>them quite sure, but it also traps all that pollution

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that would normally drift off into the atmosphere in town.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And so Fairbanks was legendary for having really bad air quality.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I believe still has issues with particular matter, but they

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of tackled the carbon monoxide problem that they had

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I think back in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that won't surprise me. You just think of Alaska

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>as this sort of pristine, uncolluted place. But it's just

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>because the way the land is in Fairbanks.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, they built a city underneath an atmospheric conversion.

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of the invert.

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, inverters kind of invert.

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 2>NASA has something cool that they launched twenty four years

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 2>ago ish called the Terrace satellite, and it has a

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>sensor on it called the Moppet Measurements of Pollution in

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>the Troposphere. So this is measuring way above the earth,

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>about twelve thousand feet above the ground, measuring carbon monoxide.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 2>We'd guess other things as well, but this allows you know,

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 2>NASA to sort of find hot spots all over the world.

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Obviously when there's like over a big city, it's going

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 2>to be hotter if there's a big forest fire or

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 2>something like that, but it will show just hot zones

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>in the world of maybe like hey, something's going on

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 2>down there, and if your forest isn't on fire, maybe

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>you should look at check it out.

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I look into why your whole population is feigning

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>and vohomiting on themselves.

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, But that numbers, the numbers are going down, which

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 2>is great news. There they're Moppet map and that's with

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 2>two t's, which is a little redundant. You don't do

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the tee.

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I find it very satisfying that they did a letter

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to every single word. Yeah, and it wasn't like a wedge,

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, those wedge acronyms. We dislike. This is the

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>opposite of that.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, and mop it's a fun word, sure,

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 2>But they they have found that the concentration of gases

0:35:56.440 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 2>declined since two thousand from point one two five to

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 2>under zero point one zero five, which.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Is great news. One of the other things they figured

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>out from the Tarra satellite and it's mopet software, and

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>then some other satellites that have been launched since then

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that do similar things. There are a lot of countries

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<v Speaker 1>just outright lie, and a lot of companies lie about

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>their emissions. They say that they're much lower than they are.

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>And these satellites can are so sensitive. They can pinpoint

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<v Speaker 1>like basically a factory's output or at least a city's

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>output and say that country's fudging their numbers about their

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>CO two or CO emissions or whatever kind of emissions.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>That satellite feels like testing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing nice, I mean, it's dropped. In America, certainly, the

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Clean Air Act did a lot in nineteen seventy one

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>to help clean the air, and I think in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one before they or when they enacted at ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the locations that they were monitoring, the CEO

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>were in violation of what would become those new rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sure, there's one other thing about carbon monoxide that's

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>problematic for it being an outdoor pollutant. We said, it's

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>not reactive, It just kind of bounces off of other stuff.

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:16.760
<v Speaker 1>But the problem is it indirectly contributes to climate change

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>in that it does hook up with hydroxyl radicals, which

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>are so reactive they'll even react with carbon monoxide. And

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>normally those molecules are running around hooking up with methane

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and turning it into other stuff besides methane, which actually

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>removes that greenhouse gas from the atmosphere. But when there's

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of carbon monoxide up there, it keeps the

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>hydroxyl busy and methane is allowed to just accumulate and

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>go on. Who ray, we need to come up with

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the opposite cheer of.

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<v Speaker 2>Hooray right, Uh, let me think on that.

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a very important thing for us.

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<v Speaker 2>The catalytic converter was a big deal for reducing COE

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 2>output in cars. It was invented by a French engineer

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 2>named Eugene Udri. How would you pronounce that?

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that was pretty close.

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<v Speaker 2>This is nineteen fifty, but leaded gas was still a

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 2>big thing back then, and leaded gas does not mix

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<v Speaker 2>well with catalytic converters. So when they finally got rid

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 2>of leaded gas in the mid seventies and the EPA said, hey,

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 2>you got to start putting these catalytic converters on your cars,

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 2>that was a huge deal. It's really interesting. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>wrote the article on the Old House Stuff Works website

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 2>on catalytic converters.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh neat. They are interesting, they are.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 2>And it was a bit of a because it's not

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>my thing at all, so it was a bit of

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a slog to get through that article. But it is

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 2>interesting how they work. They use metals like palladium and

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 2>platinum and rhodium, like expensive metals, which is why people

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>will cut and steel a catalytic converter out from underneath

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 2>your car ooo, kind of like they'll steal copper from

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 2>a house being built or something. Same deal, as those

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 2>metals are very valuable and they trigger chemical reactions that

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 2>use free oxygen to turn that co into CO two

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 2>and H two O.

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then also other stuff like nitrogen dioxide and

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>hydrocarbons all those products of incomplete combustion. Catalyated converter says,

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I got this before that stuff comes out of the tailpipe. Nice,

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. So catalytic converters actually coming along. Eugene Adrie,

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>That's how I'm gonna say it. He kind of saved

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<v Speaker 1>the world in a lot of ways. Like he really

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 1>helped get those emissions down. He's basically the reason why

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the f one to fifty truck driving from Texas to say,

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Fairbanks puts out less emissions than a leaf blower running

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>for half an hour. That's why. So, I mean we've

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>been taking our hats off here there in this episode.

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking it off and leaving it off for your gene.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking that beret off, well, good for you. Ye As

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<v Speaker 2>far as what you can do in your own home,

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 2>obviously you're gonna want to inspect that furnace. One of

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the problems that can happen with that inefficient burning is

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>when you don't just something simple like not having your

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.439
<v Speaker 2>filter changed right. That means it's not your furnace isn't

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.760
<v Speaker 2>getting the air that it needs. Deadly, It is deadly.

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 2>So you got to keep that furnace filter clean. You

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>got to have all your exhaust fans for all your appliances.

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 2>If you have gas appliances, make sure those exhaust fans

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 2>are working. You could make a switch from gas to

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>electric or to what are those called induction inductions?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever used one? Less?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not a fan, but really, you know, I

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 2>could get used to it. I guess I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>You love them? Yeah, I'm a gas guy and I

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<v Speaker 2>know that they're problematic, but I gotta gotta figure this out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you have a gas range and you're using it,

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>or a gas cook top in particular, you should have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody come out every once in a while and tune

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>it up, like there's a tune up they can do,

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>and they'll test your your combustion, your flame to make

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>sure that it's burning as close to not rich or

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>not lean. But in the middle of the two.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean the guy just comes out and lights

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a fart.

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Basically, but he has a very expensive little device that

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:22.280
<v Speaker 1>he sticks at by it and tests how much like

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>carbon monoxide is in it?

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, I'd pay for that.

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should pay for it. And then one other

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>thing you can do, Chuck, and I know you'll probably

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.720
<v Speaker 1>go do this, right, after we finish, you get yourself

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a wire brush and some electrical contact cleaner and you

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>take off all those little plates on the burner on

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>your cook top and scrub them until they're totally free

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>of corrosion and build up.

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<v Speaker 2>I will do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You should. It'll help a lot. Actually. Okay, yeah, but

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the guy who puts out to do the tune up,

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>he's actually adjusting like the amount of like gas and

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>air that's going to your stuff. It's not something you

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>can really do because you don't have that expensive device, right,

0:41:58.840 --> 0:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you definitely want carbon monoxide detectors in your home,

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 2>and if you have, I mean, I think most of

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the new like smoke detectors are also coeo detectors. I

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>haven't looked into it, but I feel like they're kind

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>of all that dual purpose.

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, yes, yeah, what I can tell.

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>But if you do have an old school smoke detector,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>it may not be also a carbon monoxide detector. So

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 2>check on that.

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you can get those pretty easy, pretty cheap.

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna buzz market one. I was doing some research

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<v Speaker 1>the Kitty. You know they make the fire extinguishers. They're Nighthawk,

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>which is thirty five dollars. It plugs in, has a

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>nine volt battery backup, and it tests the air every

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.399
<v Speaker 1>fifteen seconds and as a digital readoubt of what your

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 1>carbon monoxide levels are in the immedia area. Thirty five bucks.

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>It's everything you need right there, and just put one

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>in every single outlet in your house.

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Right. Oh, it just plugs right in. Yeah, Oh okay,

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>So it's not something goes in the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, it doesn't hard why it has. Like I said,

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a battery, but it's a battery backup, so it's

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 1>actually really helpful. And one other thing you're probably going

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear if you start to research this is that

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you should put your carbon monoxide detector either up very

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>high or down low because someone will tell you that

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it's either heavier or lighter than air. It's actually not

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 1>true either way. It's almost the same weight as air,

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.280
<v Speaker 1>so it mixes really well and it goes wherever air goes,

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>so you can put it pretty much anywhere you got

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>air and it'll detect the carbon monoxide because it disperses

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty evenly easily in the air.

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 2>So we can close by talking about some of the

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>beneficial uses of carbon monoxide because they do use it

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 2>for things. Whether or not they should be for all

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>these purposes is debatable. Sometimes sure, I would like to

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 2>do a short stuff sometime on the fact that carbon

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 2>monoxide is used to keep meat looking red, not the

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 2>myth that it is food additive that makes meat look red, right.

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>It supposedly just preserves the red color that's already there. Yeah,

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 2>and supposedly it is not dangerous. But I started digging in,

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh boy, this is a big rats nest.

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 1>So oh, I can't wait.

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to punt on that one.

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:17.959
<v Speaker 1>The one that stuck out to me that I thought

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>was so awesome is that it has medical uses. Paradoxically,

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 1>they figured out that they can use carbon monoxide at

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like relatively high concentrations, like four hundred parts per million

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 1>is remember, nine parts per million can give you like

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>chronic poisoning, so four hundreds a lot. But they use

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it to treat acute respiratory distress syndrome because somehow they

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>found out that carbon monoxide has a protective effect on

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>your lungs that protects it from injury or sepsis. That's

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 1>just nutty, and I look to see how that happened.

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I could not find it, like I think that they

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>actually don't quite know yet. It's that that new of

0:44:58.960 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a finding.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>That groundbreaking.

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I do too.

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>That's very bleeding edge technology. Yeah, you got anything else?

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I have nothing else other than a listener mail.

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>We did some good works here, chucked, if I do

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>say so myself.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna get with them kitty hawks.

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>You close enough, I think you'll stumble upon it and

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>search that kitty kitty nighthawk.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, okay.

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>If you want to know more about carbon monoxide and

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 1>kitty nighthawks, then start looking around the internet and you'll

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>probably find quite a bit about it, because we did.

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And since I said that it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm picturing you and you me now, like

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:49.399
<v Speaker 2>the day after your misapp leaving with a cart full

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 2>of kitty hawks and all sorts of other products in ournefense.

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:54.879
<v Speaker 1>It was two days after.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you had a day where you just laid around thinking,

0:45:58.560 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Are them online? And it took that long for them

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to show up?

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I gotcha? All right, here's a listener mail. This is

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 2>a very cute one. Hey, guys, my mom and I

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 2>are longtime listeners and huge fans. I live overseas in Germany,

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 2>so my mom and I only get see each other

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 2>about once a year. Your podcast so is a great

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>way for us to share something together despite the distance.

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 2>We talk on the phone almost every day. Things we've

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 2>learned on stuff you should know come up off in

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 2>as talking points. I love this stuff. My great grandma,

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 2>a German immigrant, used to end phone calls by saying,

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 2>a cute old grandma boys, well, I don't know anything,

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 2>which is really great, and she says this is Hannah

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 2>by the way, says I don't know It kind of

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 2>meant I don't know anything new or we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess I'll get.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the phone.

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Since she died, I've been using that a lot. However,

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 2>we got Inventive a few months ago and now have

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 2>incorporated something Josh says every episode into our conversations. Oh now,

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 2>when I wanted to get off the phone, I will

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 2>always say, since I said blah blah blah, that means

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 2>time for listener mail. We both get a kick out

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 2>of it, and we thought you might too. Keep up

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the good work, guys, and Jerry best regards. That is

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Hannah and mom Amber.

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<v Speaker 1>Very nice. Thanks Hannah and Amber, thanks for letting us know.

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like your jerky boys makes you laugh every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be like Hannah and tangentially Amber and

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 1>get in touch with us to let us know something

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>cute about your family. We would love to hear that.

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