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Speaker 2: That's right. We have mentioned it before quite a few times,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's

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Speaker 1: Chuck and Jerry's here too, and this is Stuff you

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Speaker 1: Should Know. PSA edition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't done a good old PSA in a while.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember some of our other ones? I can't

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Speaker 1: bring any to mind.

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Speaker 2: Sure, don't play in the street.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one.

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Speaker 2: Uh, don't jump out of a hot air balloon without

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Speaker 2: a parachute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, h celo fane bags in you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, that was a good one, sure was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then this one, it's it carbon monoxide. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if there's a few people out there that are

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Speaker 1: searching for our cellophane bags episode.

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Speaker 2: Now, well here's the short version. Don't put them over

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Speaker 2: your head.

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Speaker 1: That was it. Yep, that was our first short stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't have laughed at that because that exchange wasn't

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Speaker 1: funny at all. And chuck, we should not be joky

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Speaker 1: at all. This is a very serious episode.

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Speaker 2: Right, carbon monoxide.

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Speaker 1: Not dioxide, manaide. It's I lesser.

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Speaker 2: Said co two when I was talking to you offline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you search for carbon monoxide or COO,

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Speaker 1: carbon dioxide still comes up page one.

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Speaker 1: It's if I were a carbon monoxide i'd be seething

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, put COO in the limelight for a change.

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Speaker 1: The reason that this is well, that's what we're doing

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Speaker 1: right now, and the reason that this is a PSA everybody,

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Speaker 1: is that carbon monoxide is a deadly gas. Deadly poisoned

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Speaker 1: toxic gas to humans. But you can't tell that you're

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Speaker 1: being poisoned until it's potentially too late and you're either

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Speaker 1: very very sick or very very dead. And the reason

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Speaker 1: why this is a PSA further is because we live

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Speaker 1: among carbon monoxide quite a bit or else, potential carbon

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Speaker 1: monoxide sources all over the place. Our whole world is

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Speaker 1: laden with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, if I can pull a little piece from

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Speaker 2: later in this great article from Libya, let me spring

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Speaker 2: this one on you. It's also it's a silent killer,

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Speaker 2: known as the silent killer, but it's not the same

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Speaker 2: thing as like a gas leak, So a gas leak

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Speaker 2: is a completely different thing. They make a gas leak

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Speaker 1: Right, Because a gas leak is like the actual fuel

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Speaker 1: that hasn't made it to the combustion process yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they can add something, but carbon monoxide is a

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Speaker 1: is one hundred percent produced by combustion, right, in particular

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Speaker 1: a specific kind of a combustion, which would be incomplete combustion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and boy, I never knew this at all in

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Speaker 2: my life. And I've heard of carbon monoxide, have carbon

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Speaker 2: always an inefficiency, and that's where the carbon monoxide comes from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw another term for that kind of combustion

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Speaker 1: is theoretical combustion. Like it just doesn't exist. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: That's right, silent but deadly.

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Speaker 1: And there's a few reasons why combustion is typically incomplete,

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean there may not be enough. It's

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Speaker 1: there's always going to be some carbon monoxide, right, And

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Speaker 1: we've known for quite a while that it's a real problem.

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Speaker 1: At least as far back as the thirteenth century. There

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Speaker 1: in complete combustion of wood produces some poisonous gas that

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Speaker 1: he didn't attempt to name, but he did identify it first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there you have it. Thirteenth century. Yep,

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Speaker 2: A little bit later, in sixteen forty four, there was

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Speaker 1: Very French name names used to be so much better.

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Speaker 1: For sure, they had like curly cues on them.

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Speaker 2: You know, my god, it's amazing. He described dying basically,

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Speaker 1: Right. And then jose Priestley came along, right, not Jason Joseph.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, you took the Jason right out of my mouth.

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Speaker 1: You remember him. He showed up in our nitrous oxide episode.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I knew he had heard of him before, because

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Speaker 2: I knew he had made a Jason Priestley joke before.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, there's no way you can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he was a chemist from England and he's

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Speaker 2: thing is really important we should pay attention to it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call it deflogid Oh man, I had it

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Speaker 2: so good earlier, deflogisticated air. Yeah, And everyone else said, eh,

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Speaker 1: He said, fine, I like Miney Moore. He's got curly

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Speaker 2: Deflogelisticated. Wow, that's a mouthful.

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Speaker 1: That's an old timey word. If that's not I've never

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Speaker 1: So he also found carbon monoxide, which you called heavy

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Speaker 1: why inflammable inflammable are the same? Yeah, inflammable was original,

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Speaker 2: Why did we talk about this before?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. It sound new to me.

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Speaker 2: No, we've talked about this before. For once, I remember something,

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Speaker 2: okay in my little feeble brain.

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Speaker 1: Well what was it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember the topic, but I definitely remember

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Speaker 2: us talking about this. But you know what, I don't

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Speaker 2: I think so that was back in our days of

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Speaker 1: Well, here at the advent of year fifteen. Uh huh,

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Speaker 1: we have finally solved that mystery. Chuck.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, niversary, Happy.

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Speaker 1: Anniversary, Happy anniversary too, Jerry.

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Speaker 2: She could speak through the tape your mouth.

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Speaker 1: So uh wow, Jerry just threw me off. That's why

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Speaker 2: I know. Quiet you. And by the way, people that

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Speaker 1: We've had to go through that before him.

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Speaker 2: I think people thought we were genuinely mean to Jerry

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Speaker 1: Each other exactly and we haven't for a while.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't poke. You and I don't poke fun

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Speaker 1: Air, Wow, it's a poking fest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're always poking my belly.

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Speaker 1: You're doing mine, and I say, oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, kids did that when I was a kid to usually, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because the same thing happened to you, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I was such a people pleaser. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a little chubby belly and then I

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: That's the cycle in that.

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Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, the circle of life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should get back to it though. Eh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you might say why Okay, guys, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Carbon monoxide the silent killer, and you have to make

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Speaker 1: air quotes every time you say that. Everybody. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I get it. It's deadly. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: around it. But exactly how is it deadly? And that

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Speaker 1: is one of the reasons we are here. We're here

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Speaker 1: to explain why it's deadly, because if you look at

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Speaker 1: the chemical makeup of a carbon monoxide molecule, one carbon atom,

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Speaker 1: one oxygen atom. Right, but they are bound really tightly.

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Speaker 1: They have a triple covalent blond, which means that they

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Speaker 1: from it. Basically, anything that doesn't breathe has no problems

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Speaker 1: Right, So the carbon monoxide in your blood mixing with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we talked about chronic poisoning. You can get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty per million days in a row.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this basically wants to be part of

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Speaker 2: We should do one on bus strips.

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Speaker 1: I thought you could say obscene phone calls.

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Speaker 2: No, well, we should do that too, Okay. The Jerky Boys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been wanting to do one on the history

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be fun. Actually, I remember we'll take a

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Speaker 2: They I think they did like a movie even, didn't they, Yes,

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Speaker 2: being passed around the school yard kind of thing. Nice

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Speaker 1: It was funny. Even just saying the name makes me laugh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jerky Boys, Yeah, they didn't laugh.

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Speaker 1: I laughed inside.

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Speaker 2: Okay, should we take that break?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we should.

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Speaker 1: All right, chuck? So oh, I know, I think you

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Speaker 2: Sure, we were talking about the supper clubs.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're talking about especially in northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Chuck, Yeah, yeah, so flammable curtains probably too were inflammable.

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Speaker 1: But death by fire is not a good way to die.

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Speaker 1: But very few people die from burning to death. You

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Speaker 2: Sure it's part of that deadly cocktail that you're inhaling.

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Speaker 2: If you're burning incense in your house a lot, like

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Speaker 2: I usually liked most of the browns. I didn't like

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Speaker 2: But uh then I just you know that was it

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Speaker 2: I know, to mean, I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: When I was in college, I got so into incense,

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Speaker 2: You've cleaned up your ac now not a good champ.

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Speaker 1: Yes, But I also you know, I used to finging

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Speaker 2: It's not funny at all?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'm laughing, but I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't actually faint and throw up on myself?

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Speaker 1: Or are you laughing because I was such a hippie

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Speaker 1: I burned Frankenson.

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Speaker 2: No, I thought you were serious that you fainted and

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no I did. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you should ask that friend if they live above

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Speaker 1: a Greyhound bus terminal.

439
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,479
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't live over there. So, like I said before,

440
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: if you're a little baby, or if you're a senior citizen,

441
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: it's gonna if you have chronic heart disease, even if

442
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 2: you have anemia, if you have asthma, like obviously, all

443
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: of this stuff is going to exacerbate any kind of

444
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: effects from carbon monoxide getting into your body. But about

445
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: four hundred Americans die from and this doesn't include fires,

446
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: This is just accidental coe poisoning every year, which isn't

447
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 2: a lot, but about one hundred thousand go to the

448
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: er because of this and fourteen thousand are hospitalized overnight.

449
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, those are negligible, not.

450
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: And I mean four hundred people dying is I mean

451
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 1: this is all very preventable too, is We'll see, because

452
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: when carbon monoxide gets in your house, it's not supposed

453
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: to be there, there's something wrong with something you're using.

454
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: Usually some sort of fossil fuel burning appliance is the culprit,

455
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: and we talked about incomplete combustion. That basically is what's

456
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: to blame across the board. Yeah, one of the big

457
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: ones that kills people or at least makes them sick

458
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: and sends them to the hospital is unvented space heaters,

459
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: which if you say those words together, you're like, this

460
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: sounds like a bad idea, And in fact, unvented space

461
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: heaters are number fifteen on a Consumer Product Safety Commission

462
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: list of three hundred and fifty of the most dangerous

463
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: household products.

464
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to be clear, these are natural gas or

465
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: kerosene burning heaters of electric heaters.

466
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like the kind that's maybe the size of

467
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: like a old timey suitcase, like an old samsonite that

468
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: get really bright and that you might have in your house,

469
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Speaker 1: especially in the South where a lot of people in

470
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: the South South don't have central heat because it doesn't

471
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: get that that cold very often, it's not worth the investment,

472
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: especially back in the day, so they might have an

473
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: unvented just a portable space heater. Basically that runs on kerosene,

474
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: and the problem is, if you don't open your windows

475
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Speaker 1: while you're running that thing, there's a good chance you're

476
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: going to accidentally poison yourself with carbon monoxide. And that's

477
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: counterintuitive because people use those because it's cold outside, and

478
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: you don't usually open your windows when it's cold outside,

479
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: so it actually does lead to a lot of problems

480
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: for people.

481
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my grandmother Bryant, my dad's mom, Opal, who lived

482
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: to be one hundred plus, had and these weren't gas

483
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: fired or anything, but she had called them chill chasers

484
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: in the wall. Oh do you ever Did you ever

485
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: see those? And I'm sure they were all over the place,

486
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: but I saw them a lot in the South in

487
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: older houses where they're just they're built in space heaters

488
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: in the wall, like recessed into the wall.

489
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I guess I know what you're talking about.

490
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: Sure, which is a little timer switch on it. It

491
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: was super super cool, like in her bathroom and stuff.

492
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love those, like old timey details of old

493
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: houses like that.

494
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or like a cutout in the hallway for a phone.

495
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like a telephone like a tile toothbrush holder

496
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: that matches the rest of the tile. It's just he

497
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: sticks out and holds your toothbrushes and will love that

498
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: good stuff.

499
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Speaker 2: Speaking of those kerosene or natural gas heaters, though, if

500
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: you get a new one, they almost always now have

501
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: a sensor on it, an oxygen sensor that will read

502
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: the air and shut that thing off. But if you've

503
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: got an older one and it didn't have to be

504
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: like four years old, you know, I'm not sure when

505
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: those oxygen sensors came along, but I feel like it's

506
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: semi recent.

507
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty twenty two probably.

508
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: No, boy, I'm really getting you left.

509
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: And right today.

510
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: Just this is gullible day for me.

511
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's good to know, noted.

512
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: But cooking appliances obviously, furnaces, fireplaces, car exhaust is a

513
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: big one.

514
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Chok. I got to stop you there, because this is

515
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: why we're here right now.

516
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: Bsa time.

517
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: I we have an attached garage that leads right to

518
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: the kitchen. The door does, and I stopped our car

519
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: and got out and went inside and just went about

520
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: my day. But I left the car running with the

521
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: garage store closed. Just I've never done it before in

522
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: my life, never even come close. It just happened because,

523
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Speaker 1: in my defense, it's a hybrid, so it's easy to

524
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: forget to turn it off because there's really not a

525
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: lot going on when you turn it on or off

526
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: when it's in electric mode. And of course like it's like, oh,

527
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: I better start charging myself, and the gas burning part

528
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: kicked in and me opened the door and was like,

529
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, the car's running. And so we started

530
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: researching carbon monoxide and found that it's actually kind of

531
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: a problem. Luckily we were fine. Oh wow, Mamo was fine.

532
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad you didn't get suspicious. But what do you

533
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: mean then, you know, like bring you up on charges.

534
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: Like I was trying to poison a lot of us?

535
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: Maybe?

536
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: Sure, No, she knows me a little better than.

537
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: That, Momo. That that's the danger there. I'm glad.

538
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: Momo was okay, yes, And that is why we were

539
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: most freaked out because she's tiny. So if you like,

540
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of carbon monoxide can and really

541
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: screw up somebody with a ten pound frame, you know.

542
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't those hybrids just say car on, car off?

543
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, be very easy to do that, yeah,

544
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: or just keep beeping or something like the car is

545
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: still on dummy, Mine doesn't get that, or just had

546
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: just do.

547
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: The car on car off and then you could get

548
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: celebrity reads. You could have like Samuel L. Jackson do

549
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 2: it right, or Matthew mcconnie car on babe. That mine

550
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: would be Sammy Davis Junior.

551
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: But do Christopher Walkin doing?

552
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't do walk in that?

553
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: Does you do.

554
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: Car off?

555
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: That's pretty good? You could also have passed that off

556
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: as a shinner.

557
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably so car off? Goodness me. Kevin Pollack, he

558
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: should have been on. He should have done a very

559
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: quick little guest to word read for us.

560
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh well, it's not too late this this episode hasn't

561
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Speaker 1: been edited yet.

562
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: He probably would, let's find out. Speaking of bad decisions,

563
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: if you lived in Texas in twenty twenty one, when

564
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: they had that terrible frozen storm that came through and

565
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: their power grid failed, a lot of people we're like, hey,

566
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: let's bring in this weber grill and load it full

567
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: of charcoal and keep ourselves warm. It sounds like a

568
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: very not smart thing to do. But not everyone understands this.

569
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: Not everyone knows that COO would be omitted. I think

570
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: people get desperate when they're in danger. Of freezing to

571
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: death maybe and that kind of thing can happened. Eleven

572
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: people died. About fourteen hundred people went to the emergency

573
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: room for COO poisoning in Texas that year.

574
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that storm, not just the whole year, I think,

575
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: And that was almost a year's worth of statistics right there.

576
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: And it was in like basically a few days. And

577
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: one of the worst things I saw I read a

578
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: pro public article about this is that afterward Texas considered

579
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: and then rejected requiring carbon monoxide detectors and houses. It's like,

580
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: what are you talking about.

581
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people from all over the world with you know,

582
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: live fires in their in their homes and their huts,

583
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: in their small spaces. About a third of the people

584
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: of the world use open fires. Some of them run

585
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: on kerosene and stuff. But you know, as we saw

586
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: in Guatemala, a lot of times these things are just

587
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: just wood burning fires in your home that they're cooking with,

588
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: and you know, they ventilate things as well as they can.

589
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: But it's a big problem. The World Health Organization says

590
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: that household air pollution and this is everything combined, but

591
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: a portion of this is obviously going to be due

592
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: to carbon monoxide, but it killed more than three million

593
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Speaker 2: people in twenty twenty.

594
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Speaker 1: Do you remember we did that thing for Toyota about

595
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: the Carnegie Mellon invention as sure like dance off. One

596
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: of the entrants invented a portable basically a ovenvent hood

597
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: to be used indoors, and remember you could. It was

598
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: super cheap and easy to use. I mean imagine like

599
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: that was a heights cold kid too, if I'm not

600
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: mistaken her, at least a college student. And this is

601
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: back in like two thousand and eight, So hats off

602
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: to that person's foresight and insight totally.

603
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: Should we take our hats off and take a break

604
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: to Yes, let's all right, we'll be right back. All right,

605
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: we're back. We did talk about all the dangers of

606
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: like home appliances and fires and all that kind of stuff.

607
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: There was one more that we didn't talk about, and

608
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: that happens very frequently after a disaster, like say a hurricane,

609
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: where people use a portable generator too close to their

610
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: house and the fuse while the carbon monox it ends

611
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 1: up drifting in and killing people.

612
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to get that thing away from your window.

613
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: At least twenty feet.

614
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if it's open. All right, I love it.

615
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: Another little psa.

616
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: Tidbit psa within a psa chuck.

617
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: It's like seconds per second.

618
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think even physics people were like, yeah,

619
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: it's through a bonehead term.

620
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. But like I said, we were talking about all

621
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: these dangers of things that you can use that will

622
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: increase the carbon monoxide in your life, but you're also

623
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: going to experience it just walking around the world. In

624
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: urban areas, it's going to be higher, usually about ten

625
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: parts per million. If it's a very heavy trafficked city,

626
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: it can be as high as fifty parts per million

627
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 2: just in the air that you're breathing walking around. And

628
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: this is from you know, just from humans driving cars

629
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: mainly or burning fuel of any type. Your old nemesis,

630
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: the leaf blower, And this is a hard to believe,

631
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: but Lyvia found this estimate from this one source that

632
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: said a gas powered leaf blower for half an hour

633
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: has the same amount of hydrocarbon emissions as a thirty

634
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: nine hundred mile drive and a F one raptor.

635
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that stat and the noise pollution

636
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: episode about leaf blowers that they were that also put

637
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: out that much emissions too.

638
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: So all this to say that it doesn't have to

639
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: be some big gigondo car, right, Like your small two

640
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: stroke engines are putting a lot of this in the

641
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: air as.

642
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: Well, right, But if you put enough cars together, all

643
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: the little bits of CEO that they put out are

644
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: going to combine and be problematic, especially if you live

645
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: in places like Fairbanks, Alaska, right where there's something called

646
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: an atmospheric conversion that typically happens there where the warm

647
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: air gets on top of the coal there and traps

648
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: that coal there, which is one reason Fairbanks so called

649
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: them quite sure, but it also traps all that pollution

650
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: that would normally drift off into the atmosphere in town.

651
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: And so Fairbanks was legendary for having really bad air quality.

652
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: I believe still has issues with particular matter, but they

653
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: kind of tackled the carbon monoxide problem that they had

654
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: I think back in the seventies.

655
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that won't surprise me. You just think of Alaska

656
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: as this sort of pristine, uncolluted place. But it's just

657
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: because the way the land is in Fairbanks.

658
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: Well, they built a city underneath an atmospheric conversion.

659
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of the invert.

660
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, inverters kind of invert.

661
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: NASA has something cool that they launched twenty four years

662
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: ago ish called the Terrace satellite, and it has a

663
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: sensor on it called the Moppet Measurements of Pollution in

664
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: the Troposphere. So this is measuring way above the earth,

665
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: about twelve thousand feet above the ground, measuring carbon monoxide.

666
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: We'd guess other things as well, but this allows you know,

667
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: NASA to sort of find hot spots all over the world.

668
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: Obviously when there's like over a big city, it's going

669
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: to be hotter if there's a big forest fire or

670
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: something like that, but it will show just hot zones

671
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: in the world of maybe like hey, something's going on

672
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: down there, and if your forest isn't on fire, maybe

673
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: you should look at check it out.

674
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Well, I look into why your whole population is feigning

675
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: and vohomiting on themselves.

676
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: Right, But that numbers, the numbers are going down, which

677
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: is great news. There they're Moppet map and that's with

678
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: two t's, which is a little redundant. You don't do

679
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: the tee.

680
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: I find it very satisfying that they did a letter

681
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: to every single word. Yeah, and it wasn't like a wedge,

682
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, those wedge acronyms. We dislike. This is the

683
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: opposite of that.

684
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: No, I agree, and mop it's a fun word, sure,

685
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: But they they have found that the concentration of gases

686
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: declined since two thousand from point one two five to

687
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: under zero point one zero five, which.

688
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Is great news. One of the other things they figured

689
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: out from the Tarra satellite and it's mopet software, and

690
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: then some other satellites that have been launched since then

691
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: that do similar things. There are a lot of countries

692
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: just outright lie, and a lot of companies lie about

693
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: their emissions. They say that they're much lower than they are.

694
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: And these satellites can are so sensitive. They can pinpoint

695
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: like basically a factory's output or at least a city's

696
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: output and say that country's fudging their numbers about their

697
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: CO two or CO emissions or whatever kind of emissions.

698
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: That satellite feels like testing that.

699
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: Thing nice, I mean, it's dropped. In America, certainly, the

700
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Speaker 2: Clean Air Act did a lot in nineteen seventy one

701
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Speaker 2: to help clean the air, and I think in nineteen

702
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: seventy one before they or when they enacted at ninety

703
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: percent of the locations that they were monitoring, the CEO

704
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: were in violation of what would become those new rules.

705
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, there's one other thing about carbon monoxide that's

706
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: problematic for it being an outdoor pollutant. We said, it's

707
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: not reactive, It just kind of bounces off of other stuff.

708
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: But the problem is it indirectly contributes to climate change

709
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: in that it does hook up with hydroxyl radicals, which

710
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: are so reactive they'll even react with carbon monoxide. And

711
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: normally those molecules are running around hooking up with methane

712
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: and turning it into other stuff besides methane, which actually

713
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: removes that greenhouse gas from the atmosphere. But when there's

714
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: a lot of carbon monoxide up there, it keeps the

715
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: hydroxyl busy and methane is allowed to just accumulate and

716
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: go on. Who ray, we need to come up with

717
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: the opposite cheer of.

718
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Speaker 2: Hooray right, Uh, let me think on that.

719
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a very important thing for us.

720
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: The catalytic converter was a big deal for reducing COE

721
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: output in cars. It was invented by a French engineer

722
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: named Eugene Udri. How would you pronounce that?

723
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: I think that was pretty close.

724
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: This is nineteen fifty, but leaded gas was still a

725
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: big thing back then, and leaded gas does not mix

726
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: well with catalytic converters. So when they finally got rid

727
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: of leaded gas in the mid seventies and the EPA said, hey,

728
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: you got to start putting these catalytic converters on your cars,

729
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: that was a huge deal. It's really interesting. I actually

730
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: wrote the article on the Old House Stuff Works website

731
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: on catalytic converters.

732
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Speaker 1: Oh neat. They are interesting, they are.

733
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Speaker 2: And it was a bit of a because it's not

734
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: my thing at all, so it was a bit of

735
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: a slog to get through that article. But it is

736
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: interesting how they work. They use metals like palladium and

737
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: platinum and rhodium, like expensive metals, which is why people

738
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: will cut and steel a catalytic converter out from underneath

739
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: your car ooo, kind of like they'll steal copper from

740
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: a house being built or something. Same deal, as those

741
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: metals are very valuable and they trigger chemical reactions that

742
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: use free oxygen to turn that co into CO two

743
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: and H two O.

744
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also other stuff like nitrogen dioxide and

745
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: hydrocarbons all those products of incomplete combustion. Catalyated converter says,

746
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: I got this before that stuff comes out of the tailpipe. Nice,

747
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: pretty cool. So catalytic converters actually coming along. Eugene Adrie,

748
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna say it. He kind of saved

749
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: the world in a lot of ways. Like he really

750
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: helped get those emissions down. He's basically the reason why

751
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: the f one to fifty truck driving from Texas to say,

752
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: Fairbanks puts out less emissions than a leaf blower running

753
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: for half an hour. That's why. So, I mean we've

754
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: been taking our hats off here there in this episode.

755
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm taking it off and leaving it off for your gene.

756
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: Taking that beret off, well, good for you. Ye As

757
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: far as what you can do in your own home,

758
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: obviously you're gonna want to inspect that furnace. One of

759
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: the problems that can happen with that inefficient burning is

760
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: when you don't just something simple like not having your

761
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 2: filter changed right. That means it's not your furnace isn't

762
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: getting the air that it needs. Deadly, It is deadly.

763
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: So you got to keep that furnace filter clean. You

764
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: got to have all your exhaust fans for all your appliances.

765
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: If you have gas appliances, make sure those exhaust fans

766
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: are working. You could make a switch from gas to

767
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: electric or to what are those called induction inductions?

768
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever used one? Less?

769
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a fan, but really, you know, I

770
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: could get used to it. I guess I love them.

771
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: You love them? Yeah, I'm a gas guy and I

772
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: know that they're problematic, but I gotta gotta figure this out.

773
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Well, if you have a gas range and you're using it,

774
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: or a gas cook top in particular, you should have

775
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: somebody come out every once in a while and tune

776
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: it up, like there's a tune up they can do,

777
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: and they'll test your your combustion, your flame to make

778
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: sure that it's burning as close to not rich or

779
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: not lean. But in the middle of the two.

780
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: Do you mean the guy just comes out and lights

781
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: a fart.

782
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: Basically, but he has a very expensive little device that

783
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: he sticks at by it and tests how much like

784
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: carbon monoxide is in it?

785
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: Right, I'd pay for that.

786
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should pay for it. And then one other

787
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: thing you can do, Chuck, and I know you'll probably

788
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: go do this, right, after we finish, you get yourself

789
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: a wire brush and some electrical contact cleaner and you

790
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: take off all those little plates on the burner on

791
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: your cook top and scrub them until they're totally free

792
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: of corrosion and build up.

793
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: I will do that.

794
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: You should. It'll help a lot. Actually. Okay, yeah, but

795
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: the guy who puts out to do the tune up,

796
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: he's actually adjusting like the amount of like gas and

797
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: air that's going to your stuff. It's not something you

798
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: can really do because you don't have that expensive device, right,

799
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: I gotcha.

800
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: Okay, you definitely want carbon monoxide detectors in your home,

801
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: and if you have, I mean, I think most of

802
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: the new like smoke detectors are also coeo detectors. I

803
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: haven't looked into it, but I feel like they're kind

804
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: of all that dual purpose.

805
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: Now, yes, yeah, what I can tell.

806
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: But if you do have an old school smoke detector,

807
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: it may not be also a carbon monoxide detector. So

808
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: check on that.

809
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can get those pretty easy, pretty cheap.

810
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buzz market one. I was doing some research

811
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: the Kitty. You know they make the fire extinguishers. They're Nighthawk,

812
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: which is thirty five dollars. It plugs in, has a

813
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: nine volt battery backup, and it tests the air every

814
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds and as a digital readoubt of what your

815
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: carbon monoxide levels are in the immedia area. Thirty five bucks.

816
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: It's everything you need right there, and just put one

817
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: in every single outlet in your house.

818
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Right. Oh, it just plugs right in. Yeah, Oh okay,

819
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 2: So it's not something goes in the ceiling.

820
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: Nope, it doesn't hard why it has. Like I said,

821
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: it's a battery, but it's a battery backup, so it's

822
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: actually really helpful. And one other thing you're probably going

823
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: to hear if you start to research this is that

824
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: you should put your carbon monoxide detector either up very

825
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: high or down low because someone will tell you that

826
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: it's either heavier or lighter than air. It's actually not

827
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: true either way. It's almost the same weight as air,

828
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: so it mixes really well and it goes wherever air goes,

829
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: so you can put it pretty much anywhere you got

830
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: air and it'll detect the carbon monoxide because it disperses

831
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: pretty evenly easily in the air.

832
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: So we can close by talking about some of the

833
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: beneficial uses of carbon monoxide because they do use it

834
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: for things. Whether or not they should be for all

835
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: these purposes is debatable. Sometimes sure, I would like to

836
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: do a short stuff sometime on the fact that carbon

837
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: monoxide is used to keep meat looking red, not the

838
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: myth that it is food additive that makes meat look red, right.

839
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: It supposedly just preserves the red color that's already there. Yeah,

840
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: and supposedly it is not dangerous. But I started digging in,

841
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh boy, this is a big rats nest.

842
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: So oh, I can't wait.

843
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to punt on that one.

844
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 1: The one that stuck out to me that I thought

845
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: was so awesome is that it has medical uses. Paradoxically,

846
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: they figured out that they can use carbon monoxide at

847
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: like relatively high concentrations, like four hundred parts per million

848
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: is remember, nine parts per million can give you like

849
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: chronic poisoning, so four hundreds a lot. But they use

850
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: it to treat acute respiratory distress syndrome because somehow they

851
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: found out that carbon monoxide has a protective effect on

852
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: your lungs that protects it from injury or sepsis. That's

853
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: just nutty, and I look to see how that happened.

854
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: I could not find it, like I think that they

855
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: actually don't quite know yet. It's that that new of

856
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: a finding.

857
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: That groundbreaking.

858
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: I love it.

859
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: I do too.

860
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: That's very bleeding edge technology. Yeah, you got anything else?

861
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: I have nothing else other than a listener mail.

862
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: We did some good works here, chucked, if I do

863
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: say so myself.

864
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna get with them kitty hawks.

865
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: You close enough, I think you'll stumble upon it and

866
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: search that kitty kitty nighthawk.

867
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: You're right, okay.

868
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: If you want to know more about carbon monoxide and

869
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: kitty nighthawks, then start looking around the internet and you'll

870
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: probably find quite a bit about it, because we did.

871
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: And since I said that it's time for listener mail.

872
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm picturing you and you me now, like

873
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: the day after your misapp leaving with a cart full

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Speaker 1: It was two days after.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you had a day where you just laid around thinking,

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Speaker 2: oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Are them online? And it took that long for them

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Speaker 1: to show up?

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Speaker 2: I gotcha? All right, here's a listener mail. This is

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Speaker 2: a very cute one. Hey, guys, my mom and I

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Speaker 2: are longtime listeners and huge fans. I live overseas in Germany,

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Speaker 2: so my mom and I only get see each other

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Speaker 2: about once a year. Your podcast so is a great

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Speaker 2: way for us to share something together despite the distance.

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Speaker 2: We talk on the phone almost every day. Things we've

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Speaker 2: learned on stuff you should know come up off in

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Speaker 2: as talking points. I love this stuff. My great grandma,

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Speaker 2: a German immigrant, used to end phone calls by saying,

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Speaker 2: a cute old grandma boys, well, I don't know anything,

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Speaker 2: which is really great, and she says this is Hannah

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Speaker 2: by the way, says I don't know It kind of

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Speaker 2: meant I don't know anything new or we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: So I guess I'll get.

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Speaker 1: Off the phone.

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Speaker 2: Since she died, I've been using that a lot. However,

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Speaker 2: we got Inventive a few months ago and now have

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Speaker 2: incorporated something Josh says every episode into our conversations. Oh now,

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Speaker 2: when I wanted to get off the phone, I will

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Speaker 2: always say, since I said blah blah blah, that means

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Speaker 2: time for listener mail. We both get a kick out

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Speaker 2: of it, and we thought you might too. Keep up

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Speaker 2: the good work, guys, and Jerry best regards. That is

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Speaker 2: Hannah and mom Amber.

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Speaker 1: Very nice. Thanks Hannah and Amber, thanks for letting us know.

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Speaker 1: It's like your jerky boys makes you laugh every time.

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Speaker 1: I want to be like Hannah and tangentially Amber and

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Speaker 1: get in touch with us to let us know something

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Speaker 1: cute about your family. We would love to hear that.

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Speaker 1: You can wrap it up, spank it on the bottom,

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Speaker 1: and send it off to stuff podcast at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. For

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