WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Who's Sweating Now? 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.240 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:15.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This ship is the 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:20.840 Player's Lab, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:25.639 the Star. No. Your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.560 new He scrugs, all right, it's Friday. That means it's 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.240 time for the players Lodge and the Boys are back together. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.880 Week number two day. Mccraig here, he is, baby here, 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.800 he is back to back weeks. Listen, Yeah, I can't 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:45.080 believe it. I know, man, you're nervous, you're sweating. You know. 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.120 I don't know what it is about the studio, But 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.080 as soon as I get up in here, man, I 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.120 don't know, the beads start, you know, swelling up on 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.040 top of my head. I feel some drips coming down 0:00:54.920 --> 0:01:03.600 in the studio. This man camera action. I guess home studio. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.120 It ain't like this home studio. It ain't like, oh 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.720 we know you got a really really nice home. Here. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.319 Church out here sweating like some of these veterans are 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.240 like me, oho, what you said? The oddsworld on my man, 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.840 Big Mike, you got that sweat on the two oh 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:27.279 oh oh yeah, yeah, we'll die, we will die into 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.520 to Mike McCarthy and, uh, the hot seat there, this 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.600 is the player's lounge job. Danny McCrae back for a 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.800 second week in a row. Here, former Dallas Cowboys saying 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.960 number forty there's buried church. Number forty two, Dallas Cowboys safety. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.720 I've new we scruggs merely a reporter for the Cowboys 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:50.720 Emmy Award. When for a minute or two minute, two, Um, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.080 I was reading Matthew McConaughey's book Green Lights. Actually I 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.000 wasn't reading it. He read it. So the audio book 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.160 is really good. And the Cowboys used to train in Austin. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.880 That's when I first over the team, Jimmy's last year, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.400 and there was a black club on sixth Street called 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:10.680 um Cafier Station. And a couple of years later, maybe 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.320 a year or two that I remember, the white guy 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:17.200 was a waiter at the Cafis station. Okay, come to 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.120 find out it was Matthew McConaughey, and I did not 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.880 know it. He said, it's an audio book. It was 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.079 in the audi book. He say, yeah, I got a 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.359 jab a Caafi station. My best friend worked on six 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.200 Street two about five or six clubs down called Whiteley's, 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:34.840 And I said, was that McConaughey, the white guy waiter. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.560 He's like, yep, so he was. So it sounds like 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.639 he was the only hit. Okay, yeah, black It was 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.960 a black again. It was all black club. He was. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:44.519 He was the only white guy grew up in. So 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.480 he's invited to the cookoun Oh yeah, yeah, okay, but 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.320 check out his audio book. Check out his audio book. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.200 But those were fun days. But I remember one time 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.560 running the Emmin and Michael Irvin and Kafier station out 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.360 there end during training camp. That'd be a dangerous spot 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.800 to have can six Street right there, I mean, you 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.320 know an ox Now we way off in the cut 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:09.880 somewhere when the podcast is over, it is over. There 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.440 was one bar called the Copper Tank on sixth Street. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.079 And I tell people all the time, this was when 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.360 the media member and me lived off the Cowboy. You 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:25.360 went the team a little bit, do you know, Yes, 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.840 I do, I know, I know, yeah, yeah said of 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.679 course he walked through out here his microphone in his 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:37.200 pocket to get the club. Hey, you didn't have to, 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.280 you just walked in with you walked in with the 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:51.560 right Yes, I see didn't come back, but we had 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.960 the medium pass back then. Yes this is who I am. Yes, yes, 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.280 I leached off. That was twenty three years old, living 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.840 off the county man, living right out the cowboy. Because 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.600 after a while, you know, they couldn't get to them. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:07.320 So you know you was next up there. You got 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:18.200 no single I was a single man. I was a bachelor. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.279 I did bachelor thing. The walls can talk, yes on 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.960 the wall. So Las Vegas came out with odds this 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.840 week that have Mike McCarthy as the first head coach 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.080 to lose his job seven to one odds. You know, 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.839 they got bets on everything, you know, bets on everything 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.920 now and so yeah, yeah, they got Mike McCarthy is 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.840 the number one guy. Oh man, I don't see it. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.159 I mean, I know you see his hot, his seat 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:50.080 being not hot right now. I don't think when Jerry's 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.280 reaching almost eighty years old, I don't think we can do. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.440 Anything is possible. Yeah, he wants to win. Now, we 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.320 know Jerry wants it right and anything right, so anything 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.719 is possible. I don't think. I mean, I did not 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.800 foresee this defense becoming making as many wholesale changes they did. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.880 We knew that bey changes. I didn't think there'd be 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.200 this many. But this is Jerry saying okay. I mean 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.400 Jerry finally said Jason, I love you, but I can't 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.120 do this anymore. So I don't know what if he's 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.680 disappointed again, I don't know what he'll do. I will 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:26.479 never forget the two looks on this man's face when 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.440 they lost at New England and they had Tom Brady 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.400 and Belichick against him the game they should have won 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.120 lost on special teams, the anger and disappointment, and then 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.720 the tears he had after Buffalo beat them on Thanksgiving 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.440 Day and cold beans they got carried off the feet. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.520 I mean they made the man cry. So I'm sitting 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.240 here looking at this. This is as he's getting older. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.960 You take this stuff more and more personally, and if 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.040 you look at it, he's in a win now mode. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.240 I mean they feel like they got they got their leader, 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.240 Dak Prescott. He's under contract. He's ready to roll their offense. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.239 In my opinion, it could be a top five offense, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.120 especially with that receiving corps. You got a health the 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.560 Tyren Smith like l Collins coming back, so they can 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.840 run the ball a little bit and Uh, I mean, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.400 I just to me, I think he thinks this offense 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.560 is geared to go. It's geared to go. We got 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.280 to make some changes on defense, Like you said, we 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.680 got a wholesale change. But he's ready to win now. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.599 And he's like, look, McCarthy out to let you bring 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.119 your boy Nolling in. Now you're bringing in Dan Quinn. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.280 Something's got to work. If this don't work, I'll let 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:21.800 you bring in all your guys. I'll let you get 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.680 the tools that Dan and Quinn needs to get this 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.120 defense going. If we don't get this thing rolling in 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.960 the right direction, somebody got to go. I'm not taking it, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.000 So somebody got to go. I'm gonna tell you why 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.279 this man seat is hot, all right, and it's it's 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.880 not because of the record that they had last season. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.880 It's because of the performance and the lack of buying 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.359 from the players, all right. They have not come out 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.560 and looked that way. And I don't know how many years. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.240 I mean, at least when JJ was here, we was 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.440 losing it. We was going eight and eight. Competitive balled 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.679 in and we were losing team. You never had that question, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.640 and then last season it was so obvious where everybody 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.760 saw it and everybody called it out. You had players 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.360 coming then talking about they're not running to the ball. Uh, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.839 the guys talking about watch the film and the film 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.440 was horrible. Like you had all these bad things going on, 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.920 you know, inside the team and in the locker room 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.680 with Jerry's like, nah, if we see that again, we're 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.640 gonna have that same issue. Do you think mccraid, do 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.120 you think that a lot of that, you know, turmoil 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.440 and all that, you know inside the locker room, all 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:21.760 that stuff. You think that had a lot to do 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.600 with their leaders not being in there. You know, Dak 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.800 Prescott being out. You know, a lot of young guys 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.240 trying to take that leadership role to the next level, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.560 but they weren't able to do that. You think they 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.360 had a lot to do with, you know, the turmoil 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.880 inside the locker room and just the at odds it 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.000 seemed like the coaches and the players were at Yeah. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.720 I think I think it had a lot to do 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:39.680 with the leaders, But I also think it had a 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.640 lot to do with the staff. I don't think the 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.920 staff came in and and figured out a way to 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.120 get these guys to buy into what they were selling. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.120 Um and that's from the Waite staff. You know we 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.240 got voice uh he left some they had a new 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.000 Waite staff, they had a new guy come in. They 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.760 had to buy in for that. The dB coaches, we 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.760 obviously know that nobody was buying into. And then we 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.800 had no idea what's going on offense. We talked about 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.320 it on the show all the time. What is the 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.920 identity of the offense. So you got players on the 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.120 offense who have no idea what the identity is and 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.960 what they should expect for the upcoming game. And the 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.360 defense was atrocious. So I mean it all on all 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.400 levels it was. It was bad. So if you have 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:22.080 another season of that, those odds are right. In the 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.720 only movie, well Prince made two movies, but the only 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.720 movie that was a hitting Purple Rain, the club owner, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.120 Billy says the Prince because he ain't calling the kids kid, 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.640 I got three acts, I ain't got room for four. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.320 But it kicked them kicked, but themorrow not ell. So 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.000 homeboy picks up, picks up that guitar, goes to the 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:48.520 stage and busts out Purple rained. Big Mike. Better, I 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:54.040 could have had a crowd waving like that. Better happening 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.480 tears and then come out with following up with baby 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.400 I'm a Star. I mean he's gonna have to perform 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.640 like that because Mary Jones does not have time to waste, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.160 he does not have years to spend. He's giving you 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.120 the money and the resource. I mean, you guys have 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.800 been to different teams. You in Chicago, you were up 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.640 there in Jacksonville. What else could you ask for? You 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:19.400 can't when you talk about facilities, finances for the team, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.400 I mean everything is here. You've got a tremendous practice facility, 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.880 You've got a tremendous stadium. There's no excuses. You got 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.440 it all right there. And as a player, I mean, 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.559 what else do you want from the Cowboys? I mean 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.079 off the field, you make so much money. I mean 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.520 it's ridiculous with that star on your helmet. Like you said, 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.760 you got all the practice facilities, all the best equipment, 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.120 you got the top end at everything you can have. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.800 But for some reason, we haven't been able to translate 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.160 that into w's So I think we gotta get this. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.400 Like you said, mccraige, he has to put his imprint 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.679 on this team. He has to get this philosophy going 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.960 in the direction that he wants it to go or 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.840 he's gonna go down with the ship. Like he said, 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.840 I mean, we gotta win now. Jerry's in the win 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.679 now mode. And if Quinn and do that, I mean 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.920 we've seen it done. You gonna have to ships. Well, 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.400 you know, I'm Quinn top ten this season, all right, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.199 I'm telling you this top ten this season. That's so 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.000 I'm not even worried about that. I'm worried about did 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.320 you go to your tail practice? You know I didn't know. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.720 I did not go to ok First of all, that 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.199 don't matter, all right. You gotta get out there and 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.400 put your ham on on somebody. That's when we'll know 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.559 if these guys really came to play, you know, like 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:30.680 I know, Ota practices none padded practices, that's what they are. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.120 They are none the football as a contact sports. So 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:34.920 you never really know. I run out there and tag 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.880 somebody off right now, that don't mean enough. Going to 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.480 get out there in week one, don't try to strike 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.160 strike when the tackle it's not. It's not the same. 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:44.640 So they can look as good as they want to. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.079 We can have the twenty eleven Tyron Smith and that 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.680 coming out here saying he got the best, the most 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.240 in shape, tackles all they want to, But until you 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.240 get out there in between those lines and put that 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.720 helmet on somebody, you have no idea. What do you 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.880 think these OTAs, these that's all in this mini camp 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.680 that they're gonna have, do you think it'll prove dividends? 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.120 I mean because last year we didn't have it. We 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.160 didn't have OTAs, we didn't have none of that, and 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.640 you know the proof was in the pudding as what 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.439 we saw for the regular season. So do you think 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.600 they can improve what these OTA's going on right? I 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.120 think I think absolutely. I think them going back to 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.120 a four to three, things that they are are familiar with, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.880 and then being able to put dan Quinn's little touch 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:22.839 on it, I think that'll help a lot. I think 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.400 the biggest part of last year was they switched the 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.040 entire scheme around. These guys had not done this in 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.280 their football careers, and then we asked them to do 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.760 it with no OTA's a really really light training camp 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.240 and then going to Week one against some pretty pretty 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:42.520 good offenses and and and try to produce and it 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.920 didn't work out. So getting back to a four to three, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.960 getting back to the basics getting out here and Dan 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.160 Quinn like being able to put his imprint so they 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.080 understand what he wants. He wants them to hustle. He's 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.720 going to get out there on the front line and 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.719 show this is what I want from you and if 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.440 you can't do it, then you won't be on this team. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.320 So get it that and getting that attitude out on 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.040 this defense. I think it's gonna help top ten and 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.319 knew it. This is why the Players Lounge is. It's 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.439 just a different podcast than the other ones because if 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.240 you listen to the break and just their thoughts on 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.400 the OTAs, there's a whole lot of positives and you 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:18.480 just came right out there. You just pour coal. How 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.880 many times have you, like seen somebody say bro Ota 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.760 was bad, like they went on on analysts came out 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.679 or whatever. And at the end of OTA, it was like, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.360 we had a horrible OTAs. I just was gonna actually 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.959 mention one guy from the OTA talk about we're talking 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:39.000 about had no Demante CAZy. Okay, that's your that's your boy, 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.760 and that's your boy. I'm gonna necessarily say it's my boy. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.120 As much as I had stressed it, I thought Dan 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.280 Quinn needed to be able to bring in his own 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.880 coaches and some players who understood this skame and coming 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.880 off an achilles, he looked like, Okay, this is a 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.200 guy who's going to be able to play this fault 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.800 and help this team, because we were wanting is he 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.200 gonna make a club? To make the club? I know 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.040 it's an OTA, but he was out there and he 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.559 was very active, and I just said to myself, Okay, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.839 this is a player who might be able to help them. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.760 And Demante Kazy when when he was healthy, was a 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.040 playmaker for the Atlanta Falcons. They need to playmakers here. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:17.600 So that to me, what I took away from the 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.439 OTA was, Hey, look for a guy coming off in achilles, 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.120 I think, you know so far better than I thought. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.960 This could be good. And that's a hell of a 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.920 sign that he's even participating in this early part of 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.959 OTA's where it's kind of just you know, you got 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.080 individual drills, you got a couple of team drills here 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:34.719 and there, But for him to even be out there 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.880 with them, that's a huge sign because I would have thought, 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.400 you know, he would have been on the sidelines with 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:43.720 Britt doing those band works and just getting accumated. I'm 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.120 all over right now to getting back onto the field. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.480 But like you said, he's out there, he's doing his 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.719 drills and he looks good. So for me, that's a 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.520 that's a hell of a sign for this defense because 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.440 the one thing I preached sense the offseason was they 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.559 needed a guy back there, and you as well knew 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.280 that they needed a guy back there that can control 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.880 this defense, that can be the quarterback there in the secondary, 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.800 has a linebacker crew in that front seven. You got 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.320 veterans down there, Jalen Smith, Lve that can control that, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.760 get those d linemen and everybody moved in the right direction. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.600 But you didn't have that at the safety. So they 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.880 brought in Casey. He knows the system, and for him 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.040 being out there this early in OTAs, that's a heck 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:16.680 of a sign because he knows it. And if he's 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.520 healthy enough to get back even even three fourths of 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.680 what he was a ball hockey safety back there, that'll 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.080 prove dividends for this defense and hopefully he'll be able 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.600 to improve out there. So it sounds like you're a 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:31.520 preaching for the top ten. To me. You got veteran linebackers, 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:36.840 you got the first round. You was I just last 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.880 season saying Diggs he's gonna prove and he's gonna be 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.800 the top eight cornerback and all of sudden getting them. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.760 So what I'm saying, he got Tank Launch, you got 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.880 Randy Gregor who came on at the end of the season. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.600 I mean, if you put together everything that we never 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.720 gallop more than the New the New show Stoppers. So 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.360 if you put together all this stuff that we have 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.080 been talking about collectively on the players, now this sounds 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.800 like a pretty good defense coming up this season. Who wa, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.040 I'm saying, I'm putting putting it all together. I really 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:08.800 brought up a positive that I saw from and I 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:13.480 wanted to point that out while you were poo pooing everything. No, no, no, see, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.280 ain't gonnew he'd like to do that. I was not 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.720 poo pooing OTAs I said, I will not watch your 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.720 ota and then say, you know what, We're gonna have 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.320 a hell of a team based off what I've seen. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.560 That's That's what I'm saying. And I'm not even say 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.040 I just really wanted to. I saw a player that 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.680 I was not expecting to see out there a lot, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.000 so and I said Okay, this to me is a 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.200 good time because we've spoken before. Hey, look, you know 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.960 the guys contracts not guaranteed. Here what you know, what's 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.640 gonna happen. Dave Hellman Dallas Cowboys dot Com and read 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.640 his work. He spoke with him, and um, he said 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.120 he kind of wasn't expecting you out there. He says, 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.320 I know a lot of people weren't. And he also 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.520 spoke about how he was thankful to find a team 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.760 and just you know that whole NFL life. Okay, this 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.640 is what happens. You know, you free agent year, get hurt, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.040 and you know where folks at, where the offers. So's 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:09.000 he's here, and it sounds as though he wants to 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.960 prove something on a one year contract. Old Hall of 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.440 Fame man and baseball major Sparky Anderson said if he 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.520 had twenty three guys or twenty five man ross of 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.120 one year dudes on a contract, he said he went 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.880 the World Series every year because everybody be out there 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.520 trying to make sure that he was out there to 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.000 get a new deal. So if Kazy is here, he 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.280 understands his defense and he's got something to prove. Looking 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.320 at his tracker head, in the past on the upside 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.440 of the flip side this, this could be good. So 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.040 many times we've seen these signings that just have not 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:42.520 worked out around here. Don Terry Pole last year, Gerald McCoy, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.680 Everson Griffin. You just look, he's got a man this 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.480 one year. And I'm just really saying, as I look 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.800 at the OTA, I can say, all right, so far 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.240 one practice in, this guy's doing more than I thought 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.040 he would be doing. And maybe this could be a 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.000 signing that helps his football team. Lord knows, dan Quinn 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.200 need somebody who can't understand he did. He definitely needs. 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:03.640 And it sounds like he got kind of a chip 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.000 on his shoulder. I mean, and you like that. I 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:07.760 like that about him because it sounds like when he 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.640 came in there Helm and was tacle to him, He's like, yeah, 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.400 I know, I know, I got doubters. I know y'all 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.360 don't think I'm gonna go out there and go out 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.000 there and be able to prove something. A lot of cats, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.280 including myself, thinks, hey, he might not even make the take. 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.239 But for him to go out there and he's not 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.040 doing a lot of you know, Ron, Ron, I'm back, 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.360 I'm here. He just you know, a being humble. I'm 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.439 just I'm thankful for the opportunity to the Cowboys gave me, 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:26.720 and now I'm out here and I got to prove 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.080 my word. And you love that. You love leaders like that, 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.280 and I hope he brings that to the whole defense. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.600 That just that's just that leading, that camaraderie, getting them 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.639 all boys together, getting them fired up. And hopefully he 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.440 can do that but remain healthy as well, because we're 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.840 gonna need a free safety back there. Old only. I'm 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.280 just gonna, you know, reverse and go back to something 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.080 that you said. It sounds like you listen, Jeral McCoy 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.000 and Terry Poe, those are two very very different things 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.560 that happened to those guys. Okay, as far as didn't 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.720 work out, Jermy Kog got hurt when we talked about done. 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.880 Terry Poe, it was it was bad. My man wasn't 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.200 out there, one of those those guys who wasn't buying in, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.040 wasn't hustling, and you could see it, see it noticeably 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.000 on film. I've been out for a while, so where's 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.560 Gerald at this time? He's still on the marketing right, 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.560 so you know, I know we had discussed them possibly 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.800 coming back and all this stuff. You never know. I 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.520 just know there was some stories earlier, back earlier, and 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.199 where you know, hey, you know McCoy might want to 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:28.240 come back, but you knew where I was. I missed 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:36.320 my brother Stephen. Stephen had done a radio interview and 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.600 and and somebody asked him about it. And you know, 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.960 Stephen just being the open minded personnel guys, Oh you know, yeah, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.840 I could be. And and you know they had been 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.879 in communication. But once we saw what happened in the 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.919 drafting where they went, No, I go back to what 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.440 Bill parcels us to talk about about progress stoppers. Bill 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.000 was big on that. He's like, you know, we don't 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.640 need progress stoppers. If you've got some of these younger guys, 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.680 the best that's the way they're gonna get better is 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.720 letting them play. Gerald McCoy's an injured player. Hurt players 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.160 at that age ten to stay hurt. He came here. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:08.639 They had a contract, I mean thinking about they had 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.280 a clause that contract. Hey man, you hurt that quality, 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.400 we get go ahead and get you on out of here. Yeah, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.280 I'll sign it. It It happened hurt the quad and got 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.160 him on that and didn't cost him anything, So why 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.640 are we bringing him back? I'm just Tyron Smith. Huh, 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.800 Tyre Smith. Geral McCoy, you were talking about players. You 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:28.720 know that we got a lot of players that age. 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.320 When they get hurt, you just stay hurt. And that 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:39.000 I'm just kidding that. That was not good right there. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.560 Your your honor, Gerald McCoy is an older player than 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.919