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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Morning, everybody in stej Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne, the gud

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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest

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Speaker 2: in the Bounty. Yes, indeed we have Ashley Allison.

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Speaker 3: Welcome. Yes, how are you feeling this morning?

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Speaker 4: Well that's a hard question. Eight days, nine days into

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump's America.

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Speaker 1: But don't let us scratch you out. You can't think

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Speaker 1: about it every day. You gotta remember your serenity prayer.

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Speaker 4: Okay, no, you know, Yeah, I'm good, but it's a

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Speaker 4: lot on.

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Speaker 5: My mind right now.

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Speaker 1: What is your job to And I feel like I

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Speaker 1: know you because I watch the ann all all the time,

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Speaker 1: and it's your job, and you always have to talk

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Speaker 1: about these things. But I feel like they always put

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Speaker 1: you in the position against the white conservative male and

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Speaker 1: cause conflict on purpose just to scratch you up.

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Speaker 5: No, telling the truth it doesn't stress me out.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like that's all I do on CNN

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Speaker 4: is I'm gonna be a truth teller. I'm going to

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Speaker 4: hold you accountable and and I'm gonna.

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Speaker 5: Call you out. And I literally like, people like, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how you do it. I don't either.

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Speaker 4: But it's like my grandmother's spirit comes in me and

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Speaker 4: I'm calm, cool, collected now sometimes like every once in

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Speaker 4: a while, but most of the time, I'm just like, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm from you, soun Ohio.

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Speaker 5: So we just call a thing a thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it feels like they like the conflict makes

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Speaker 1: good television.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, I think the important thing that

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Speaker 4: they try and do is obviously a lot of people

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Speaker 4: think what the conservatives think because they just voted for

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, right, and they're trying to get that viewpoint out.

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Speaker 4: But I'm also like a lot of people still voted

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Speaker 4: for Kamala Harris too, and so I'm gonna try and

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Speaker 4: get that viewpoint out right.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people didn't vote at all, so we

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Speaker 5: got to get that argument out too, like what happened there?

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Speaker 5: Why did people stay home?

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Speaker 4: And I think there's still a lot of questions to

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Speaker 4: be answered about what happened.

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Speaker 2: Is we can we go back a little bit and

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Speaker 2: find out who Ashley Allison is and how you jumped

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Speaker 2: into politics. So let's start off from what got you

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Speaker 2: into politics.

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Speaker 5: I led my first protest when I.

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Speaker 3: Was in the second grade, second grade.

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Speaker 5: Wow, So I'm lactose intolerant. Me too, and most of

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Speaker 5: us are.

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Speaker 4: We it should most people in the world are lactose intolerance,

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Speaker 4: so we should change that name.

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Speaker 5: But and the nuns at my school used to make.

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Speaker 3: Us drink the milk a Catholic school.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm not Catholic, but went to Catholic school.

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Speaker 3: Most of us did, yes.

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Speaker 5: And I used to get sick every day after lunch. Wow,

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Speaker 5: every day. And they used to say it's because I

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Speaker 5: didn't like math. Now I don't like math and I'm

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Speaker 5: not good at math, but I didn't make myself sick.

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Speaker 4: And so the first was like, let me drink juice

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Speaker 4: at lunch and not. And so it was just like

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Speaker 4: when something is doesn't make sense, do something about it,

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Speaker 4: change it, fix it. And then my parents raised me

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Speaker 4: like knocking on doors when I was a little kid,

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Speaker 4: canvas and for candadis for city council. And then I

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Speaker 4: just someone like when I see something that is not right,

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Speaker 4: it just agitates my spirit.

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Speaker 5: That's why you like, don't let it stress you out.

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Speaker 5: It's like part of who I am.

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Speaker 4: I cannot see something that is wrong and not say something.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like Obama came through and I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 4: how do you How do you work on a campaign?

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Speaker 1: How do you?

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Speaker 4: I was teaching at Boys and Girl High School actually

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Speaker 4: at the time when Obama ran for president, and my

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Speaker 4: students were engaged by him in a way I had

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Speaker 5: And it was kind of like all she.

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Speaker 1: Wrote, do you think we'll ever see that again? Do

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Speaker 1: you ever think we'll see you?

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Speaker 4: Because he's a once in a lifetime, a lifetime generation leader,

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Speaker 4: and so is Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a fact. I've only seen three of my

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Speaker 1: lifetime like that, Clinton, Obama and Trump.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't I honestly, I don't know if we need

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Speaker 4: a once in a lifetime generational leader.

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Speaker 5: I just think we need good leaders.

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Speaker 4: I think that the celebrity of it all is part

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Speaker 4: of the problem. Is like people, I want somebody who

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Speaker 4: cares about the quality of everybody's life and wants everybody's

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Speaker 4: life to be better. I don't need you to be

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Speaker 4: a reality show star. I don't need you to be

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Speaker 4: super famous. I don't even need to really want to

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Speaker 4: dinner with you. Honestly, I just need you to know

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Speaker 4: what you're doing and want to help people and get

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Speaker 4: this country in a better place.

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Speaker 5: So probably not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now he said something stressed you out? So what

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Speaker 2: stresses you out the most? Because he said what he

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Speaker 2: was going to do?

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Speaker 3: It's not like it's a surprise. He said, what exactly

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Speaker 3: what he's going to do?

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Speaker 1: Right now? Right?

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Speaker 5: Did my eyes get real big? You know that's my tail?

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Speaker 5: Normally what stresses me out? I think that we.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was one of those people, Charlot Mane

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Speaker 4: who called Trumpet fascists, and I still think that, and

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Speaker 4: I think that it is not Democracy doesn't die.

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Speaker 5: By one fatal blow.

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Speaker 4: It dies by a thousand little cuts. And I think

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Speaker 4: the first day when he partoned January sixth folks, that

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Speaker 4: was fifteen hundred little cuts to democracy. I think when

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Speaker 4: Friday night when he fires inspector generals, that's another eighteen

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Speaker 4: cuts to democracy.

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Speaker 5: And for folks who don't know what.

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Speaker 4: An inspector general is, it's literally the people who are

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Speaker 4: supposed to do the auditing of federal agencies to make

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Speaker 4: sure there isn't waste and fraud.

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Speaker 5: Like they think they need doze for it.

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Speaker 4: And I think that no is talking about an inspector

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Speaker 4: of general sexy and exciting. No, but is it the

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Speaker 4: thing that is a backstop?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: And I worry people are not paying attention and people

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Speaker 4: with everything that they're throwing their hands up and saying

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Speaker 4: like I don't have anything to do. I can't engage.

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Speaker 4: And apathy is how dictators thrive. Despair is how And

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Speaker 4: I worry that people are becoming apathetic and finding this

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Speaker 4: because like, if we have the numbers, I think he

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Speaker 4: did say what he was going to do. Some people

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Speaker 4: are now surprised that he kept his word. We tried

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Speaker 5: But it's the despair that makes me most nervous.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was.

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Speaker 5: I know you said it.

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Speaker 6: Stress is a big part of your job, and you

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Speaker 6: don't mind, you don't care. You're gonna keep telling the truth,

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Speaker 6: you know, because that's your job to do that. But

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Speaker 6: at what point is the stress to the point, Like

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Speaker 6: have you ever had a tipping point? Like all right,

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Speaker 6: I'm not about to be doing this no more like

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Speaker 6: throwing a child type.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So okay, I'm a big yogi. I've been doing

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Speaker 4: yoga for twenty five years, so I'm always breathing. I'm

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Speaker 4: always staying grounded, connected like feet on the ground, making

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Speaker 4: sure you're not gonna catch me off my balance. The

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Speaker 4: thing about why this moment I'm okay with it is

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Speaker 4: because eight years ago, the first time you got elected,

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Speaker 4: it almost took me out, Like I was leaving the

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Speaker 4: White House, the relationship I was in and did I

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Speaker 4: felt like my whole identity I closed the White House

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Speaker 4: down right.

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Speaker 5: I had no job.

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Speaker 4: My money was real funny, so you know, we don't

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Speaker 4: make a lot of money in the government, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, what do I doing? For six months, I

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Speaker 4: was just kind of like I was in a depression.

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Speaker 4: I was in a almost hit rock bottom. And every

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Speaker 4: day since then, I was in therapy. You know, I

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Speaker 4: did a lot of the self work. I got my

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Speaker 4: building for this moment.

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Speaker 5: So it's not gonna.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to get to the point where I like,

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Speaker 4: I can't do this anymore, because I'm never gonna let

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Speaker 4: somebody else take that much power away from me.

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Speaker 1: You know, did you ex vote for Trump?

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Speaker 5: I don't know my mom's listening, so I can't say

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Speaker 5: what I was about to do.

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Speaker 1: You said something that's very interesting about democracy, right, and

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Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said. But I was watching

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Speaker 1: John Stewart last night and he presented a good point.

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Speaker 1: He said that, you know, the thing that we need

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Speaker 1: to remember about Trump is this is democracy because he

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Speaker 1: was voted in and he has he has control of

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Speaker 1: all branches of government. Now, so the things he's doing,

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Speaker 1: we may not like it, but under the constitution, he

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Speaker 5: Well, not all things.

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Speaker 4: The Constitution still exists for a reason, right, So you

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Speaker 4: can sign an executive order, but democracy, we still have

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Speaker 4: three branches of our government. Right, So you can sign

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Speaker 4: an executive order, and the courts are actually supposed to

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Speaker 4: be a checks and balances, right, So if it goes

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Speaker 4: all the way up to the Supreme Court and the

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Speaker 4: court says no, Donald Trump can't then just override it. Right. Well,

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Speaker 4: that's the problem, right, That's the problem with is that

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Speaker 4: we were supposed to have all these checks and balances.

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Speaker 4: I think the thing that's on the front of my

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Speaker 4: mind is this Fourteenth Amendment around birthright citizenship, and I'm

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Speaker 4: like y'all better wake up, because this is not about

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Speaker 4: birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 5: This is about being able to discriminate against all of

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Speaker 5: us because of equal protection.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I think almost every legal scholar except for

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Speaker 4: like the five that Donald Trump is going to find

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Speaker 4: to bring this case, have said that birthright citizenship is

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Speaker 4: in the constitution and it's not a thing. But he's

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Speaker 4: still on day one signed an executive order. He even

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Speaker 4: said in his interview Behind the Resolute Death that I

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Speaker 4: don't know if this is going to work, but we're

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Speaker 4: gonna try it out. So it's trying to like press

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Speaker 4: the levers of democracy to see. But the fourteenth Amendment

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Speaker 4: also is the amendment that prevents from you to be

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Speaker 4: able to be discriminated. It gives all rights to Americans

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Speaker 4: in this country, so black, brown women, straight, gay, and

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Speaker 4: it's bigger than just birthright citizenship. And so because immigration

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Speaker 4: is such a big topic right now, they are introducing

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Speaker 4: the fight through that lens as a foil, almost as

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Speaker 4: a distraction, so that you focus on that and not

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Speaker 4: on really what they're doing. And if you take one

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Speaker 4: piece of the Constitution away, then it start again a

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Speaker 4: thousand little cuts. It's a cut and so they're trying

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Speaker 4: to knock it down. So that's why I'm like, don't

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Speaker 4: get distracted, y'all. Don't be in pay attention. You know,

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Speaker 4: like eight years ago was when stay woke. We made

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Speaker 2: Sure, but that's what I was gonna ask. Do you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the day, the first day he got inaugurated, you know,

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Speaker 5: But nobody was talking about that.

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Speaker 5: But I want to see the credits.

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Speaker 5: Again? I would want to do some research on that.

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Speaker 4: So when they are writing these executive orders, they're writing

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Speaker 4: One way to make sure that those things don't become

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Speaker 1: They will everything I wanted Democrats to do in order

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Speaker 4: I do think that if that birthright citizenship case is

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Speaker 4: taken up and actually goes to the Supreme Court, and

446
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Speaker 4: what's the third the secret in the night, we don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

447
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 4: because like like let's just be armed. They wrote it

448
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Speaker 4: all down like my biggest my biggest fear is twenty

449
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Speaker 4: twenty five, just boom, like all nine hundred pages come

450
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Speaker 4: in reality. But they already told us that it's like

451
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Speaker 4: some stuff I know, we don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, we always talk about the problems, right, what

453
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Speaker 2: are the solutions. What can people do to you know,

454
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Speaker 2: to try to stop this or to try to curve it? Like,

455
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Speaker 2: what can people do because a lot of people are

456
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Speaker 2: listening and be like, we know the problems. Yeah, we know,

457
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Speaker 2: we got to deal with the next four years. We

458
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Speaker 2: see it happened in the last eight nine days.

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Speaker 3: But what can we do to stop it? What's the solution?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think being in community is the most important thing, right,

462
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 4: Like sitting by yourself and spiraling and doom scrolling one

463
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 4: of the things that the coolest thing that is happening

464
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Speaker 4: right now, y'all y'all following him and talk tik talk. Okay,

465
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Speaker 4: So this is why I love Black women, Like we

466
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Speaker 4: the ninety two percent supposed to be sitting down chilling,

467
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Speaker 4: and we done created a whole HBCU online on TikTok day. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 4: so a black professor, she put a video out about

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Speaker 4: African American studies class for her.

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Speaker 5: Thirty six students.

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00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: It is now a place where twenty plus PhDs, all

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Speaker 4: black folks teaching African American studies, teaching the art of resistance,

473
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Speaker 4: teaching economic power. That's self organizing, right, I think right now,

474
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Speaker 4: one of the things we have Our people have been

475
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Speaker 4: through many, many things, and one of the best things

476
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Speaker 4: you can do right now is to educate yourself on

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Speaker 4: how to sustain oppression.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Barlow, Yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: And so they're educating us on forms of resistance on

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Speaker 4: so you don't just sit and say, like, well, how

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Speaker 4: did you know the Civil rights movement survive? How did

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Speaker 4: we get the Civil Rights Act? Like that did not

483
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Speaker 4: happen overnight. We tell that a lot of times. Our

484
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Speaker 4: country tells that during Black History Month. If they even

485
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Speaker 4: tell that story, that was like a fifteen year struggle

486
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Speaker 4: just to get that one piece of legislation. So find

487
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Speaker 4: yourself in community and educate yourself. You know, I'm not

488
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Speaker 4: gonna take a stance on the boycotts right now, but

489
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Speaker 4: I do think our economic collective.

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Speaker 5: Buying power is very important. There's a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Conversation about boycotting, boycotting companies who are getting rid of

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Speaker 4: de EI. I think boycotts are hard, but boycotts can

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Speaker 4: be used strategically, and if we as a community really

494
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: put some strategy behind it, it could be effective while

495
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 4: we're still helping black businesses and entrepreneurs thrive. And then

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Speaker 4: I think we we got to have some tough.

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Speaker 5: Conversations, y'all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And the hardest part about it is like getting

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Speaker 6: people motivated to do it and activating people to do it,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like is like like I'm

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Speaker 6: thirty two, and a lot of people in my generation

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Speaker 6: they don't care.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: They care, but they don't care enough to like if

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Speaker 6: it don't affect them directly, like right now, they're not

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Speaker 6: doing nothing, you know.

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Speaker 5: They just I know, and I know a whole bunch

508
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Speaker 5: of people.

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Speaker 6: Say, oh, Trump had money in the hood, so you know,

510
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Speaker 6: we good, And then you sitting here telling me Snap

511
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 6: is gone. You know, it's you know, all the stuff

512
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Speaker 6: in the night that's happening. You don't even know half

513
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Speaker 6: of them pregnant. That's hitting me up right, Like my

514
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 6: cousins and homegirls in Barima. Trump gave us that check.

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Speaker 6: He ain't even get to you, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: his name anything.

517
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Speaker 5: Because of him, You got it, you know.

518
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Speaker 6: And it's just how do you properly educate, properly activate

519
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Speaker 6: people to listen and really care about their lives.

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Speaker 5: Why would you wait till.

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Speaker 6: Something happen to you when you know you can do

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Speaker 6: something like you said, stand with a community to like

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Speaker 6: to help prevent it in any.

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Speaker 5: Type of way. Yeah, I mean I hear you and

525
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Speaker 5: you activate people. It's hard.

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Speaker 4: If it was easy, like we wouldn't be here. Yeah, honestly, goodness,

527
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Speaker 4: like if it was. And I think that people honestly

528
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Speaker 4: deserve to have a sense of like it don't matter, right.

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Speaker 5: I love Obama, but I know a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of people whose lives haven't changed over the last twenty

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Speaker 4: years under Democrat or Republican. So I get it. I

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Speaker 4: think it's the responsibility. I don't actually think it's the

533
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Speaker 4: responsibility to activate. I do think like elected officials need

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Speaker 4: to activate them. But I always say, you know, start

535
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Speaker 4: with not me saying this is what you should care about.

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Speaker 5: What do you actually care about?

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Speaker 4: Like if you can tell me any topic just about

538
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Speaker 4: and I can find a way to bring it back

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Speaker 4: to like something you should care about.

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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of times, like what Jess said,

541
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Speaker 2: you don't realize it until it affects you.

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Speaker 3: It's like you hear birthright, citizenship right and let's.

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Speaker 2: Say I'm fully black stopping, but like you, if you

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Speaker 2: don't have a family member that's from out of this country.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't affect you. You know, same thing with the.

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Speaker 2: Medicine and pills. If you don't need medicine right now,

547
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: it's not affecting you that way. So you're not even

548
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: thinking about those things. So it's hard to activate until

549
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: something really affects you and you see it really hit

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Speaker 2: close to home.

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Speaker 4: You know them, but it does affect you, right, but

552
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 4: it's two steps removed, right, Like half of the there

553
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 4: are workforces right now in California that are not showing

554
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: up to harvest crops because they're afraid they're going to

555
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Speaker 4: get deported.

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Speaker 5: You think that's gonna make eggs and groceries go down?

557
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 4: Right when they when they lose a whole crop and

558
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Speaker 4: now they're out of their business for the season and

559
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Speaker 4: they got to hike it up next.

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna I know, truck I know Mexican truck

561
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Speaker 1: driver scared to drive, get pulled over?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how are you gonna get your Amazon?

563
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Speaker 1: Yo?

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Speaker 2: They playing with you, playing with you, playing with me too,

565
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: because you believe Dominican for real, I'm black, but I'm

566
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Speaker 2: black though it's okay, shout to Dominicans, but I'm black.

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Speaker 1: You said someone you was answering justice, I totally agree

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Speaker 1: with It's not people's job to activate it's elected officials

569
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: jobs to activate the people. And that's what I feel

570
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: like Democrats have failed. Yeah, and you worked for the

571
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Speaker 1: Biden You worked for Biden administration, and Biden has but we.

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Speaker 5: Was so we activated them.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think that, Yes, it is the

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Speaker 4: responsibility of elected officials.

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Speaker 5: It is the responsibility to do that all the time.

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Speaker 5: I'm not stupid.

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Speaker 4: If somebody came to me, like if you hear I

578
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Speaker 4: win the lottery and then you want to be my friend,

579
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Speaker 4: catch me later, right, that's sometimes how people run political

580
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: campaign So we are not stupid. We know when people

581
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: are being some timing. We know when people are playing

582
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Speaker 4: in our face and coming and just get a vote.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's what the Vice president did. I

584
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 4: do not actually think that's what Vice President Harris did

585
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Speaker 4: at all. I think she has probably been one of

586
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Speaker 4: the most consistent folks who have showed up in our community.

587
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: But like you should be in communities now knocking on

588
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Speaker 4: people's doors saying what did what did we not?

589
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: What what do you want from me?

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00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 4: I agree, I am your serv I am your public official.

591
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: I am your public servant. What do you want from me?

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00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: And then listen, don't do it as like a listen

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Speaker 4: to what them and then go sit and think about

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Speaker 4: how you can do something.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom did that and I thought that was dope.

596
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: But he, you know, he went and spoke to the

597
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: counties that flipped red Trump, and I just thought that

598
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: was smart, Like, you just go listen to people because

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00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: if you literally, if Democrats had just been listening to

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Speaker 1: people the last four years, none of this stuff would

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Speaker 1: surprise them. The way people felt about the border wouldn't

602
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Speaker 1: have surprised them, the way people felt about the economy

603
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprive them. None of this stuff would a surprise them.

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Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, and I think, like I always say,

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Speaker 4: I was allowed to have hope and believe that the

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Speaker 4: vice president can win, like I'm allowed to dream of

607
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: something better than what we currently have, but we also

608
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: have to live in reality and people. You know, I'm

609
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: one of those people where I do think racism and

610
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: sexism played a huge role in this selection cycle, particularly

611
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Speaker 4: when she became the nominee. But I also think, like

612
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: some people really are struggling in this country and really

613
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 4: are just looking for.

614
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Speaker 5: An alternative and a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: And I used to be one of those people who

616
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: never talk to Republicans like it was a part of

617
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Speaker 4: my like hi, I'm Ashley or you a Republican because

618
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: I will walk away? And once Donald Trump when I

619
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 4: was like, I gotta change this. How do I call

620
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Speaker 4: myself a political strategist? And I don't even know what

621
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: my opponent is doing? Like if you play sports, you

622
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: study tape, you watch them, you go watch them play,

623
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Speaker 4: you scout them out.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna have an interaction with you.

625
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be you are so much my enemy that

626
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 4: I can't even have a conversation. And then I started

627
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: having a conversation. I was like, oh, we actually agree

628
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 4: on some things. Let me see if I can actually

629
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: talk to you about why you're voting.

630
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Speaker 5: And I don't think we do that.

631
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Speaker 4: I'm not just saying Democrats Republicans don't do it either.

632
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: We are at a place in our lives where if

633
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Speaker 4: you say something that I disagree with, we just walk away.

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Speaker 4: We don't know how to have conversations. We don't know

635
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: how to engage with somebody, We don't know how to

636
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: talk to one another. We don't know how to you know, coexist,

637
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: and that's a real problem.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I actually believe Republicans did

639
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: study Democrats and they realized how cowards Democrats are, and

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00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: they realized that there's a lot they realized they can

641
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: just run over them, and they realized they wouldn't do

642
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: anything about it. And I think that's where that's Democrats

643
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: have not learned how to treat Republicans the way Republicans,

644
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, treat them because when you look at it

645
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: just on the surface, sometimes it looks like Republicans and

646
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say good guy, bad guy, because

647
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Speaker 1: it's just politics, but sometimes it looks like Republicans are

648
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: the ones that are doing the right thing and Democrats

649
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: are the ones that are, you know, fighting for the

650
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: wrong things. Give me an example, Oh man, I'll give

651
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Speaker 1: you an example. The example to me is is the

652
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: border issue, right, because I remember, you know, back in January,

653
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: just having conversations with who I believe became the new

654
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Speaker 1: hypothetical swingboater, right, which was just us black people and

655
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Speaker 1: brown people, and there was black people in Chicago, activists

656
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Speaker 1: in Chicago telling me about the issues that were going

657
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Speaker 1: on into the border. They they weren't anti immigrant, they

658
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: were more pro resources. Like they felt like, Yo, these

659
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: people are getting way more resources than us. Then you

660
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: had people here in New York telling me about crime

661
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Speaker 1: that was going on in their communities. These were white people,

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Speaker 1: these were black people, spanning people telling me about MS

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Speaker 1: thirteen and everybody running, you know, ramp it through their neighborhoods.

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Speaker 1: And so when I would come on the air and

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Speaker 1: just have those conversations on that day when Mayor Adams

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Speaker 1: shut the school down to let the migrants stand for

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Speaker 1: the day, and everybody was calling in mad as hell.

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Speaker 1: So when I would get on the radio and have

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Speaker 1: these conversations and just tell people what black and brown

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Speaker 1: people were saying about the border, MSNBC ran the headline

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Speaker 1: charlamage and God is spreading maga messaging. I'm like, how

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Speaker 1: the hell is this maga messaging and it's coming from

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Speaker 1: our community.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think everything has to be put in contact.

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think that there are things that happened in this

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Speaker 4: selection cycle that we missed. And I'm never going to say,

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Speaker 4: like on the borders, I don't really see how the

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Speaker 4: Republicans are doing the right thing because they.

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Speaker 5: Also like they're just speaking with feeling. Yes, they are democratic, like,

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Speaker 5: it's not a problem.

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Speaker 4: They are hitting the emotion that people are feeling, and

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Speaker 4: fear and anger can be the best activator for people,

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Speaker 4: and that was tapped into this election cycle in various

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Speaker 4: different ways.

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Speaker 5: I do think Republicans study people.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they study Republicans, but they studied

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Speaker 4: the potential or Democrats, but they studied their voters and

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Speaker 4: they were like, there is some there's an emotional reaction

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Speaker 4: once you get triggered, you know how hard want you

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Speaker 4: just trigger to come back down. And they seized on

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Speaker 4: it and they captivated. And one of my friends, he

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Speaker 4: always says, Democrats are making a documentary and Republicans are

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Speaker 4: making a blockbuster movie because we're like fact facs fax

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Speaker 4: facts and they're like, I can't put food on my table,

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Speaker 4: and if like, if I can't put foot on my table,

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Speaker 4: I don't care about your facts because it's not equating.

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Speaker 1: And we did.

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Speaker 5: We missed the mark on it.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes just being seen is enough.

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Speaker 5: It's right, we know that. Just listen to me.

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Speaker 4: That's it, sne just see me, just like, sit down,

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Speaker 4: have a conversation with me.

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Speaker 5: That is so validating.

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Speaker 4: But I do want I want to be to be

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Speaker 4: more than a conversation. I want you to hear, I

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Speaker 4: want you to listen. Then I want you to take

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Speaker 4: some action if you've been put in office to do so.

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Speaker 3: Now you work for the Harris.

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Speaker 4: Campaign, No, no, no, I worked for Biden Harris Biden Harris

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Speaker 4: can yeah, yeah, not this go around there?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that Harris should run again?

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Speaker 5: I think that black woman should do whatever she want

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Speaker 5: to do.

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Speaker 4: And if she never wants to give one more day

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Speaker 4: of public service to this country, she has already done enough.

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Speaker 4: And I think she should be given the time to

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Speaker 4: think about what she wants to do, and the time

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Speaker 4: to dream about what she wants to do, and then

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Speaker 4: the time to actually do it.

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Speaker 2: You talked about sexism and racism. Do you think this

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Speaker 2: world and this country's ready for that, because we've seen

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Speaker 2: what happened here?

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Speaker 5: Well, if they were, we've already have a female president

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Speaker 5: facts I mean.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because we can

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Speaker 1: do after factor things like the electoral college. In two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixty, there's no electoral college. Hillary Clinton is

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Speaker 1: the President of the United States America. And we also

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Speaker 1: have the fact that white president Kamalahara did get the

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Speaker 1: second most votes of any Democratic nominee aver seventy two

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Speaker 1: million votes. That's that's a big deal, you know, and

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Speaker 1: going up against a superstar like Donald Trump, that's a

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Speaker 1: big deal. I think that America is more than ready.

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 5: Well you are, I mean I said what I said.

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Speaker 5: If they was ready, we would we would have maybe

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Speaker 5: even had a Republican female president. We just haven't.

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Speaker 4: I think that there are still so many biases, conscious

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Speaker 4: and unconscious biases that we don't even know exists in

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Speaker 4: this country. And until we have some real tough conversations,

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Speaker 4: I think we're going to be stuck.

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Speaker 3: Can Trump go for a third term? And how could

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Speaker 3: he make that happen?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: And he is? He is turned out. I'm going to everything.

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Speaker 4: Everything has context. There is the twenty second Amendment of

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Speaker 4: the Constitution. There's currently a piece of legislation that has

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Speaker 4: been introduced that would allow any president to run for

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Speaker 4: a third term. Now, you said, how do we make

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Speaker 4: sure these things don't become law?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know that was like for New York with Bloomberg.

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg was only supposed to run, right, Yes, he ran

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Speaker 2: like fault, Yes, yes, chase it up.

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Speaker 5: So you can.

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Speaker 3: Nobody said nothing.

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Speaker 5: You can.

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Speaker 4: You can amend the constitution, and it is extremely hard

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Speaker 4: to amend the constitution of.

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Speaker 1: That what you need true now, when you got that

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Speaker 1: political white supremacist will.

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Speaker 4: Right, So when you talk about how do you make

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Speaker 4: sure these things don't become law, that's what I'm like

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Speaker 4: you that should never even see the light of day now.

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Speaker 4: Truth be told, if Trump can run for a third term,

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Speaker 4: so can Obama, so can Clinton, so can all the

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Speaker 4: other presidents that are alive that they will. But currently

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Speaker 4: now in the constitution their Trump could not run for.

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Speaker 1: But the problem, the problem with that is they're not

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Speaker 1: going to use that power when they get it. That's

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Speaker 1: what pisces me off about Democrats. That's why I stink

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Speaker 1: on democrats neck they're not going to use the power

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Speaker 1: even if they get it. They want to do everything

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Speaker 1: they want, all these political norms when things have not

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Speaker 1: been politically normal since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, we are in a new normal

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Speaker 4: and we have to recalibrate to that new normal, like

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Speaker 4: we are not operating. That's why, when you know, my

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Speaker 4: famous line is when they go low.

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Speaker 5: I'm at energy, like that's that's my thing, Like I don't,

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Speaker 5: I don't stay high?

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Speaker 1: Are you mad? Michelle hasn't said anything yet. Because the

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Speaker 1: reason I say that is Michelle kind of said the

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Speaker 1: tone right when she said when they go low, we

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Speaker 1: go high. But then she decided to not even go

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Speaker 1: at all. Not.

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Speaker 4: I think she sometimes actually speak louder than words, that's true.

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Speaker 6: Felt like Obama shouldn't should have shot out of the inauguration,

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Speaker 6: or at least not have been cracking jokes behind.

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Speaker 4: I was like, what is happening? I understand why he went.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I know you don't, but I.

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Speaker 4: Will say I don't think I would have been there

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Speaker 4: about I mean, but that's why I'll probably never run

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Speaker 4: for office, because I match energy.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's not how I rock.

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Speaker 4: So I understand why Democrats felt like it was important

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Speaker 4: to go. Here's what I will say. I think that

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Speaker 4: because they went, you can't just then disappear. You have

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Speaker 4: to provide context to people who you were ringing the

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Speaker 4: five alarm fire to about why you went. Because I

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Speaker 4: think you know, you know, you have a massive platform, right,

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00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: and so you do stay on democrats.

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Speaker 5: I think you also stay on Republicans.

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Speaker 4: And I think though sometimes people you know how social

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Speaker 4: media works, people take a clip and flip it and

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Speaker 4: put it out there commercials. Yeah, right, And so you

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00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: always just want to make sure people can't use your

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00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: words against you, people can't use your actions against you,

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Speaker 4: particularly when you're the first like a President Obama. So

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Speaker 4: I think that you probably will hear more from him

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Speaker 4: about why he felt it was we're in for him

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Speaker 4: to show up and be the bigger person. But I

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Speaker 4: think you also didn't have to still hold Trump accountable,

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Speaker 4: like I would not be up there, keykey and with

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, though.

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Speaker 6: Even if I was just sitting there, I.

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Speaker 5: Got questions.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I think you can con see the election, but

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't concede the constitution. And when when you call somebody,

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Speaker 1: when you liken somebody the hitler, when you call somebody

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Speaker 1: a fascists, when you stay there and threat to democracy,

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Speaker 1: you just simply got to act like it. Trump acted

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Speaker 1: like it. When Trump said the election was stolen, I'm

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Speaker 1: no peaceful transfer power. I'm not going to the inauguration

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Speaker 1: still stolen. That's right, that's right. So it's just like

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It just makes I always say Republicans

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Speaker 1: are more sinsarre about their lives and Democrats are about

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Speaker 1: their truth. When Republicans lie, sounds like they're telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: When Democrats are staying in the truth or even trying

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Speaker 1: to stand on integrity, it just looks like they follishit.

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Speaker 1: That is my first Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, we are in a new normal, and I guess

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Speaker 4: my question I always have is like do we want

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Speaker 4: to go.

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Speaker 5: Back to what we used to have?

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Speaker 1: I think it's over.

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Speaker 5: It's over. Yeah, I think it is too.

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Speaker 4: But I wonder if when Donald Trump, if and when

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump goes away, what that means, because I do

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Speaker 4: think a lot of this is.

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Speaker 5: Wrapped around him.

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Speaker 4: And to your point like will there ever be another Obama?

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Speaker 4: Part of the challenges I think that like, if you

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Speaker 4: try and replicate Trump, you can't because you're not Trump.

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Speaker 4: If you're trying to replicate Obama, you can't because you're

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Speaker 4: not Obama. So who is gonna start? Who's gonna step

848
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Speaker 4: up on both sides? Right?

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Speaker 5: If he can't run again, who's gonna be in the field?

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Speaker 4: Is it jd Vance or somebody else? Jd Vance is

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Speaker 4: not gonna be able to hold hold it like Trump.

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Speaker 1: But if Trump changes all this legislation, if you like

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Speaker 1: you're ready to feel a buster, it's gonna be. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna come a time. I remember I said the Constitution

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Speaker 1: is gonna be worse as much as this this paper

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Speaker 1: holes in my hand. I see all of that happening.

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Speaker 1: So when he does that, it don't matter.

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Speaker 5: Who's I think it could happen.

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Speaker 4: I think we have to figure out how to act

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Speaker 4: people so it doesn't happen. The only thing that will

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Speaker 4: stop this is the will of the people. And I

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Speaker 4: think people are misreading Donald Trump's election is that people

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Speaker 4: don't want a democracy because he won. No, I don't

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Speaker 4: think that's what people are saying. People are saying I

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Speaker 4: had to prioritize issues and democracy wasn't the first one

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Speaker 4: on my issue on my list, right, So we cannot

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Speaker 4: let them forget that. We cannot let this new normal

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Speaker 4: just become. It still has to feel like we're in

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Speaker 4: a different age. Everything still needs to feel disoriented, agitate, like.

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Speaker 4: We can't just be like, oh, yeah, like that's Donald Trump. No,

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Speaker 4: we can never allow that to happen. That's why whenever

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Speaker 4: I'm on television I'm not just going to sit back

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Speaker 4: and just let a lie be told to him and

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Speaker 4: just not check it. We can't and all of us

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Speaker 4: have to. I can't do it by myself. You can't

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Speaker 4: do it by yourself.

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Speaker 5: We have to keep telling the truth. We have to

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Speaker 5: tell the whole story.

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Speaker 4: We have to have some tough conversations, but I can

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Speaker 4: we cannot allow. The Constitution can have power as long

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Speaker 4: as the people demand it have power.

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Speaker 1: You said something else that made me think too, because

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, people can't do Trump, but people can't

884
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Speaker 1: do Obama either, And I think that's the problem with

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Speaker 1: the Democrats. I look at you exactly. I look at

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00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: Barack Obama like Steph Curt meaning that he changed the game.

887
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: But Steph changed the way people actually play. And everybody

888
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: thinks they can play like that, but they cannot play

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Speaker 1: like that. And I think you got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Democrats who have been trying to do Obama and it

891
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Speaker 1: does not work.

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Speaker 5: I agree. I think you have this in a lot

893
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Speaker 5: of industries.

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Speaker 4: People people try and emulate something that they are not,

895
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Speaker 4: and instead of finding out who they really are, and

896
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Speaker 4: the thing about it is finding out who you really are.

897
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Speaker 5: Is a lot of work.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of work because you got to look

899
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Speaker 4: at the good, bad, and the ugly right and you

900
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: got to do the work to heal and be able

901
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: to say, like, what have I done wrong?

902
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 5: How can I grow? How can I You got to

903
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: like evaluate all all the traumas.

904
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Speaker 4: In your life so you can ascend to a higher level.

905
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Speaker 4: That is not easy work. That is scary work for

906
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Speaker 4: a lot of people. But I think if more people

907
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Speaker 4: did it, we would have a lot more options out

908
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Speaker 4: there for leaders in general, political leaders in this world

909
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 4: right now, and people who are sitting on the sideline

910
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Speaker 4: that probably have the potential to change the trajectory of

911
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Speaker 4: this country and they don't even know it yet.

912
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Speaker 1: Is it tough working in news media right now with

913
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Speaker 1: Trump in office? Because I'm I mean, I don't know,

914
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Speaker 1: but I feel like there might be mandates coming down

915
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Speaker 1: and people saying, hey, man, watch what you say here,

916
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Speaker 1: watch what you say that? Because you see ABC settled,

917
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Speaker 1: CBS is talking about settling this guy is he's a

918
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Speaker 1: too hungry guy. Does any fear about that?

919
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Speaker 4: I've never you know, I've been at seeing it now

920
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: almost four years. I've never been told what to say,

921
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Speaker 4: what not to say, I think we've only been in

922
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump's America for eight years or eight days, and.

923
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Speaker 5: It feels like years. Yeah.

924
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not about people telling you what to say.

925
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: It is about the fear of being sued, the fear

926
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Speaker 4: of the hate mail, the fear of the attacks.

927
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Speaker 5: Like the Internet is like awful. People are mean, you know.

928
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: But again, if you don't know who you are, then

929
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Speaker 4: you listen it and let you rock you No, So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that, you know. I actually have at the

931
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Speaker 4: beginning of the year, did a lot of prayer meditation

932
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: about like how can you show up and stand on

933
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: truth and.

934
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Speaker 5: Not become afraid, not become a shrinking violet.

935
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Speaker 4: Like the seat I have I hold with great honor

936
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Speaker 4: and privilege. I don't own the seat, but I and

937
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: I'm sitting in it right now, and I feel like

938
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: I have a responsibility to people to speak the truth.

939
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Speaker 4: And so the moment I used to say this when

940
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: I worked at the White House, the moment I walk

941
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: through those doors and I don't feel like it's an

942
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: honor and privilege to serve this country, I need to

943
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Speaker 4: stop coming.

944
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Speaker 1: Through those doors.

945
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Speaker 4: And the day I go to CNN or sit here

946
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 4: or anything, and I can't tell the truth. I need

947
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Speaker 4: to stop going because I need to pass the tors

948
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Speaker 4: to somebody who can. Because I can't, it doesn't mean

949
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Speaker 4: I failed, It doesn't mean I just it's not my

950
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Speaker 4: time any time.

951
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Speaker 1: What stories do you want to tell? What Wateringhole media?

952
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, you know.

953
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Speaker 4: I just started in two thousand and nine during Obama

954
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: because I saw this wave of social media. I want

955
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Speaker 4: to tell the story I want to give people in

956
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Speaker 4: democracized democratized microphones. You know, there are a lot of

957
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Speaker 4: creators out there who do amazing things.

958
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Speaker 5: I start.

959
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Speaker 4: I re started Watering Hole after the infamous of Montgomery

960
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Speaker 4: Uprising with the folding chair, right, and I'll tell the story.

961
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Speaker 5: In twenty four hours.

962
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Speaker 4: I saw the trajectory of that story change in the morning.

963
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: I saw news media outlets starting to cover it with

964
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Speaker 4: a tint of vigilanteism and whatnot. And I saw black

965
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Speaker 4: Twitter activate, the creators activate, and we turned a moment

966
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Speaker 4: that could have been very dangerous for black people, and

967
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: I really sad outcome.

968
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Speaker 5: We brought joy to it, we bought.

969
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Speaker 4: A strong political analysis to it, and by the end

970
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Speaker 4: of that night, the story was being told. So I'm

971
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Speaker 4: saying how do I take how do I find those

972
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Speaker 4: talented people and give them a platform, give them money

973
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Speaker 4: to do that. That I think is how we make

974
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Speaker 4: sure some things like that don't become laws because we

975
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Speaker 4: tell we have good messengers, we have good storytellers. I

976
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Speaker 4: want to go at politics not through like, well, your

977
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: snap benefits and it's like no, let's talk about how

978
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: it really is impacting you and get you to be

979
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Speaker 4: more engaged.

980
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Speaker 5: So I think there's a lot of opportunity. I think

981
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Speaker 5: Republicans did it really really well.

982
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Speaker 4: Everyone's like, we need our own Joe Rogan and no,

983
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 4: we don't know, We actually don't. We need We need

984
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Speaker 4: to empower people who know how to connect with real

985
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Speaker 4: people and tell real stories and empower them just to

986
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Speaker 4: do it.

987
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Speaker 5: That's what we're doing there.

988
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Speaker 4: And Jo exists right right, don't try and coffee, don't

989
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: be a copycat, be be an original, Like just just

990
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: find out who you are and we got you.

991
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Speaker 1: Please know, we got the Black Mothership. That's what we

992
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: call a breakast club, the Black Mothership. Come to the

993
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: Black Mothership. Thank you for.

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Speaker 2: Coming at Alice, Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for joining us.

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Speaker 3: You appreciate you want to check on CNN.

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Speaker 5: What ten pm?

998
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Speaker 1: So hard every time you go on the panel.

999
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Speaker 5: Who's on tonight? Okay, go hand for tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, this is tomorrow. This is tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It'll be some Republican. I'm sure Emmy.

1002
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Speaker 2: Down all right, Well, there you have it. It's the

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. It's Ashley Allison.

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.