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Speaker 2: We heard love not start. Okay, so we're just starting

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Speaker 2: from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Just start from the beginning.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, So I am thrilled that I saw you

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Speaker 4: this past weekend at the Square Circle Expo. Now I

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Speaker 4: know has hit everybody really, really hard. This is one

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Speaker 2: Have you been out and.

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Speaker 4: About like bed, were you actively working or are you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just kind of here and there, you know,

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Speaker 5: And then COVID pretty much brought everything to a complete halt.

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Speaker 5: So it was it was really nice to get out

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just been such a long time.

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Speaker 5: It was great to see everybody, great to connect with

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Speaker 1: It felt like things were kind of starting to get

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Speaker 4: And you had mentioned that you did you did, you

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Speaker 4: worked a tag Saturday night at the Square Circle X.

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Speaker 2: But when was the last match before this that you had.

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Speaker 5: I want to say, I know I did something else

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Speaker 2: How did you feel? How's your body feeling?

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm getting old, older now everything hurts more.

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Speaker 5: It's it's not as much fun anymore. I mean, the

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Speaker 5: you know, it's you know, it's the older you get

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Speaker 5: the herder this it's a young man's game, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I find uh, I love conventions because even though

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Speaker 2: My chair, right, but you know, it's less toll on

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Speaker 4: Sure, And and I feel like, you know, at this

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Speaker 4: not bump anymore and just sign you know, I agree.

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Speaker 2: So I love those. I love doing them.

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Speaker 5: I want to land more of those, I because I've

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Speaker 5: only done a handful. Really, Wrestle con was a big one.

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Speaker 5: I think maybe we talked about that a little bit.

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Speaker 5: not enough. I'd like to do more of those. It's

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Speaker 5: like you said, when the when the biggest of you know, uh,

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Speaker 5: this stage in your career, right exactly.

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Speaker 4: Well, I will if you want to do them. I

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Speaker 4: will definitely keep an ear open, yeah, and try to

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Speaker 4: help you as much as I can.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you should be on Cameo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm so technologically great here.

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Speaker 4: But the gear that you're wearing, the sharp boy mask,

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Speaker 4: great fit for you. But we can talk about that later.

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Speaker 4: I can get you involved in that if you'd like.

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Speaker 1: What a recruiter? Yeah, yeah, what a recruiter?

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Speaker 2: That's what I do.

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Speaker 4: plant in ninety nine. Yes, and tell us again, who

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Speaker 5: Well, right when I came in, Jimmy Yang had just starts.

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Speaker 1: The joke was if you saw the FedEx man come and.

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Speaker 5: You know, get the hell out of there, you know,

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Speaker 5: cutting him off, jumping before he could deliver the uh

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Speaker 1: That next man was the big heel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when when you were training, were you thinking about

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Speaker 4: like the cruiser Weight division.

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Speaker 5: You know, when they signed me, there was actually this

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Speaker 5: project apparently that Eric Bischoff was doing, that was it

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Speaker 5: a Power Rangers Pro Wrestling, kind of like a separate project.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really interesting. I've never heard about that one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was some kind of separate project they were doing.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't really know that. The way it

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Speaker 3: Did you hear about that, Chad, I've heard about it

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Speaker 3: in the past, yes.

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Speaker 4: Huh, Okay, so it would have been a different show

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Speaker 4: So yeah, So how did you enjoy your time at WCW.

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Speaker 4: Did you find it, you know, pleasing, because I know,

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Speaker 2: It just wasn't my cup of tea. But here you are,

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Speaker 4: That's what happened to me. Were you comfortable with the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, i'd been I'd been being I started doing Shark

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 5: You got some talent and that sort of thing. Wow, Holy,

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Speaker 2: You never know who's watching you, right.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was a high profile thing Filman shows because

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Speaker 5: all three of the major companies sent representatives WWEWCW, and

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and everybody thinks I was there for some reason.

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Speaker 5: I remember seeing you in ECW. I'm like, no, you don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we you know, a lot of our

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it would have worked, right, I

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Speaker 2: That's a shame.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many people, there are so many

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Speaker 1: But thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she just kind of came to me and said,

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Speaker 5: I believe so yeah, Okay, she had said that to me,

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Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, let's do that.

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Speaker 1: That was really all we got to do with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the office in TNA didn't like the pairing.

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Speaker 5: Did you just have this? You know, and he was

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Speaker 5: You almost lost your ear. So that was all that

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Speaker 2: Now, now, can I make a suggestion?

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Speaker 4: And then this is probably twenty years too late, but

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Speaker 2: Your mask to the powerplant that day and just cushing.

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Speaker 5: Maybe, but I would have had to do that for

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Speaker 5: Nobody else was wearing their gimmick to practice nation.

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Speaker 2: You're getting into your role.

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Speaker 3: I want to cover it up your ear for sure,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my character, I think I had a contract for

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Speaker 5: We're probably gonna wind up exercising the out clause and

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's I asked for my release at that point.

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Speaker 5: It just felt like the right time.

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Speaker 5: Not the way my No, it wasn't a guaranteed, you know, Okay,

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Speaker 5: If I was getting a check every week, yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 5: But that's not that's not the way it was set up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got you. So when you when you were released?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so maybe the last aid you're not working for

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Speaker 2: Here and there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much?

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Speaker 2: Are you loving life more that you can make your

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a really good question. I'll tell you. I've

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Speaker 5: I've got a new I'm on my second marriage, I've

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I so, I mean, yes, I'm enjoying life

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Speaker 5: more now. I do feel like I'm more in control.

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Speaker 5: I'm definitely smarter about everything. I mean, you know, the

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I see this.

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Speaker 5: I see this as a good It's definitely a good

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Speaker 1: You know, do I miss being on national television?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean that's what kind of you know, made all

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Speaker 5: And they made an action figure out of me, they

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Speaker 1: You know, of course you missed that kind of thing

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Speaker 5: I'm still kind of reaping the benefits of all that now,

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Speaker 3: And you know what's crazy is that you look back

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Speaker 3: And to think, you know, when I first started watching

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know it's like you said, with you,

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Speaker 5: to be sort of drawn to this character.

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Speaker 1: I saw it at the convention Indianapolis.

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Speaker 5: These kids will come over and be oh my, you know,

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Speaker 5: and how do they know who I am?

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Speaker 1: They're too young to see me on television, you know,

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Speaker 1: But it's.

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Speaker 5: Because their parents or somebody said, hey, look there's this

450
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Speaker 5: guy who dressed like a shark, and you know, thanks

451
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Speaker 5: to YouTube, I'm alive forever and you know.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it is one of those things.

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Speaker 5: It's just gets hung around, and I hope, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's like you said, it'll it'll just continue to stay.

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Speaker 1: Around, you know, And I've been really lucky in that regard.

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Speaker 1: I think absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I think boobs have the same effects.

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Speaker 1: They do different.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes men will say, I don't know who you are,

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Speaker 2: but it looks pretty good. Can I get sure?

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Speaker 1: Hell that might even be more true than what I

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Speaker 1: just said. Yeah, oh gosh.

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Speaker 2: Well, where can people find you if they want to

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Speaker 2: know more about the Shark Boy.

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Speaker 5: I'm on Twitter and my handle is a shark Boy

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Speaker 5: twenty four underscore seven. That's me on Twitter, and that's

467
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Speaker 5: really the best place because anything happens, I get on

468
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Speaker 5: there and sort of talk about it, plug it or whatever.

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Speaker 5: So that's what I would say. Come come visit me

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Speaker 5: at Twitter, follow me on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I would love to talk to you a

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Speaker 4: little more about getting you out there because I feel

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Speaker 4: I can uh lend a helping hands.

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Speaker 2: So to speak.

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Speaker 1: Cool, awesome.

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Speaker 4: Discuss stuff further later, But I'm so happy I ran

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Speaker 4: into I love running into guys that I don't get

478
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Speaker 4: to see very often, so you know. And like I said,

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Speaker 4: you caught me after that first glass of whiskey, so

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 5: But it was, you know what, I just thought of

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Speaker 5: something else I could plug I have.

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Speaker 1: I have a pro wrestling tease. Oh yeah, I'm on there.

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Speaker 1: I'm on there. I got some T shirts.

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Speaker 2: On there, but you just look under shark boy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the only one there. You go, Well, who

487
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Speaker 1: else is dressed like this? Well?

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Speaker 4: I love the gimmick. I think it's brilliant. And like

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Speaker 4: you said, it you know it draws. You're you're gonna

490
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Speaker 4: draw the kids because of the mask, but you're gonna

491
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Speaker 4: draw the adults because of your talent.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I I loved running into you too.

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Speaker 5: And and I don't do a whole lot of these things.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you can tell that by by

495
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Speaker 5: the problems I had with the technology here, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't do well.

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Speaker 1: I you know, like when you asked you, I said,

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Speaker 1: I will do this for you.

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Speaker 5: Nice.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: It's like I said, it's so nice. I just felt

502
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Speaker 4: like people should know what's going on with you. And

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Speaker 4: if you do want to tip your toes in the water,

504
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Speaker 4: we got to get your face out there. So even

505
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Speaker 4: if it's under a mask, but this is how people

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Speaker 4: know who you are. So I'm thrilled to chat with you,

507
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Speaker 4: and you know, keep in touch and if you need anything,

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Speaker 4: let me know.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you so much, Thank you both for

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Speaker 1: having me. Thank you awesome, Thanks my friend. Okay, take

511
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Speaker 1: care guys, Siyah.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's finish up here on this end, so

513
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Speaker 3: we don't we don't have to go and record, you know,

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Speaker 3: ten million times, but we'll go right into our patriots.

515
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Speaker 3: So for the magic of editing, nobody had to go

516
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Speaker 3: through what we had to get through getting sharp Boy

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Speaker 3: connected on a few different potential multi mediums here. But

518
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Speaker 3: we got it done and that's the most important part. Now,

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Speaker 3: his picture was frozen, but we just.

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Speaker 2: Went with it right, and that was fine because I

521
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Speaker 2: heard him crystal clear.

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Speaker 3: So exactly it worries about that.

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Speaker 4: So he's such a nice guy and I feel like

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Speaker 4: he's again he's one of the ones that are underrated,

525
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Speaker 4: and people you know may not know he's still out there,

526
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Speaker 4: but he is. He's out and about and he looks

527
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Speaker 4: great and he's just a nice person. So I really

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Speaker 4: like Shark Bay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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