1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to a very special episode of 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Dodgers Territory. We are live at Camelbacker Ranch, of course, 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: the spring training home of the back to back World 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: Series champion Los Angeles Dodgers. A man that needs no introduction, 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts, the manager of the team, joining us now. 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: I'm Alana Rizzo. Alongside with Clint Psias and Katie wou 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: we are the hosts of Dodgers' Territory for the upcoming season. Dave, 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: thank you for doing this. Appreciate it very much. There's 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: so much to talk about with the upcoming season. But 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: we want to take you back to the World Series 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: last year, which one of the best World Series that 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: certainly I have ever seen. Of Course, it ended in 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: the right way, right, so it's a good World Series 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: for us. But I want to go back to Game 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: one and just the mentality and the mindset of going 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: up against naturally the best club in the American League 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: in the Toronto Blue Jays. But what did you think 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: going into that series of the way that we're going 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: to win this is how. 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: The way we're going to win this. I felt that 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: the Blue Jays didn't get the didn't get enough credit 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: kind of nationwide about how good they were of a 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: ball club, very gritty, very tough team. I thought, I 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: thought we would perform better offensively against their pitching staff, 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: but I just felt that we were going to be 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: in for a dogfight, and so you try to win 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: those games at home. And like I said, I didn't 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: expect us to not perform offensively, but we really played 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: defense really well, we pitched really well, and it was 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to digging into this World Series because 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: I haven't, truth be told, I haven't gone back and 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: replayed Game one, three, five, seven, six, having all that stuff. 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: So this would be good for my recall to having 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: this conversation. 35 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: I mean it worked for us last year too. You know, 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 4: you win a World Series again. After we talk about 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, this one it seemed, I don't want 38 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: to say, easier in some ways, but also a lot 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 4: more stressful. 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: In other ways. 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously getting to the World Series, I don't 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: want it's not a cake walk. Every team in baseball 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 4: is very good, but you guys, maybe you mentioned there 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 4: kind of face a little bit of a sucker punch 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: meeting those Toronto Blue Jays, A little bit better that 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 4: splitter from everybody who was working very much. We talked 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 4: last year about baseball's kind of funny because something that 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: maybe would have gone against you guys six seven, eight 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: years ago, it seemed like it fell your way. This 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 4: last postseason. 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: Baseball just weird. 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: Is it something where maybe you're managing different with the gut, 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: the heart, all that kind of stuff. What can you 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 4: kind of say, I'm probably not articulating this well, I 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 4: don't want to take up everybody's time, but you know 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 4: what changes between a twenty seventeen, eighteen, twenties nineteen postseasons 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: to being able to put it all together? 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: And yeah, you know what? And I don't know that answer. 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: I think that's kind of a great thing about baseball, 60 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: where it is so unpredictable and there are a lot 61 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: of different pressure points in series, and you can look 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: back and we can do a show where you're talking 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: about sixteen, seventeen eighteen. Every single year there are pressure 64 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: points that went our way, decisions that I made that 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: went well, and decisions I made that didn't go well, 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: and then they're looked at as good decisions or bad decisions. 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, in the past couple years. You need breaks too, 68 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: So I don't think that I overhauled kind of the 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 3: way I manage. But I do believe that I have 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: really gone ahead and trusted players more than I have 71 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: and that kind of comes with experience. But again, the 72 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: ball gets stuck in the outfield wall a line drive 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: right at Max Muncy. When Blake comes in and you 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: know that ball is down the line. It's a different series, 75 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: and so there's a lot of things that happened that 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: have to happen for you to win a championship. 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 5: So I'm my first game of the World Series is 78 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 5: not Game one. I was still doing Cardinals, but knew 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 5: I was coming to Dodgers, so I hopped in on 80 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 5: Game three, which I may. 81 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: Did you did you last eighteen innings? Yeah? 82 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 6: I essentially had two games. 83 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 5: Of course, but to make up for the two games 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 5: that I missed, they put two games into one. 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 6: And as I'm watching Game three and we're there's. 86 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 5: In a different press box, we're up in like left field, 87 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 5: and I think the story by the seventh inning is 88 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 5: going to be of Tawny's two homers, And never did 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 5: I think the story was going to be a marathon 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: eighteen inning game. As you're watching this game transpire, especially 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 5: when you get to like the thirteenth inning and you 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 5: realize this, this is never going to end. We're going 93 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 5: to be here for the rest of time. How do 94 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 5: you I mean, I think Andrew Friedman even came out 95 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 5: and that was the game where he actually threw a 96 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 5: bar stool because he was convinced that, you know, it 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 5: was just so frustrated or all the emotions of this 98 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 5: game never ending. 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 6: How do you manage that side of it? 100 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 5: And did it get to a point where you were like, 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, this will never this will never end. 102 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: I had thoughts that it was never going to end. 103 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: I think you're managing the game first and foremost, But 104 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: there was a point where I was really considering having 105 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was Migey ro or Keiki 106 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 3: was still in the game and having them come out 107 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: and pitch after Will Climb, because you're also trying to 108 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: appreciate that you still got to win four games in 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: this seven game series, albeit the World Series, and there 110 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: was an attrition factor going on in that game, and 111 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: certainly with the pitching, and so knowing also Shohey had 112 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: to pitch the next day or actually I was past midnight, 113 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: so that same night, and Will Smith was going to 114 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 3: catch the next night or that same night, and so 115 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: I'm also thinking about attrition, and so that was kind 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: of got me a little anxious. Very grateful that Freddie 117 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: hit the homer in the eighteenth, but Yamamoto, I mean, 118 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: you wonder what would have changed if we didn't win 119 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: it right there? And Yamamoto had to pitch that game. 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, there was it was up and down, and 121 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: you want to win them all. But I think at 122 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: a certain point I just wanted the game to end. 123 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: I remember Ken Rosenthal Dave was reporting during the game 124 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: because obviously he's a sideline reporter for Fox, that you 125 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: would consider using a position player to come in and 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: pitch because you're trying, you're not just managing. Of course, 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: for that one, you have to think about the rest 128 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: of the series. Did you ever think there'd be a 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: time in your life as a manager where a position 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: player might be pitching for your club in the World 131 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: Series to try to continue to force it? 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely not that would. I don't think that had been 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: received well on social you know, but I think that 134 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: if you look back, you know, and I'm managing the 135 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: postseason where you know certain times and people hate saying it, 136 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: but you gotta punt, and you got to you gotta 137 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: try to win a series, and so at that point 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: in time, you're trying to net out positives and negatives. 139 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: But I did get to the point after talking to 140 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: Yamamoto that he was ready, and he was I was 141 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: willing to kind of fire that bullet if we needed to. 142 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, al I never thought even considering a position 143 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: player in a World Series game. 144 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: And I remember looking over the railing there in the 145 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: auxiliary press box seeing I'm a moto. I see the 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: intent change in his throat. I'm like, oh shit, this 147 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: could be real, this. 148 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: Could be really Thank God for Will Klein. What that 149 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: kid did, it's amazing. And he blacked out, and so 150 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: that's sometimes you know, you can't overthink things, and it 151 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: was in the moment, and you know, but it is 152 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: a testament to when you don't give yourself an out. 153 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: And I've even talked to him this this spring and 154 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: had him talk to the team about you know, when 155 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: you think, when you know you're the last guy available, 156 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: then you've got to be more efficient. You can't look 157 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: to the pen for someone to save you. So this 158 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: is situation he's never been in, might never be in again, 159 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: and so the way he performed, we certainly don't win 160 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: that game without him, and maybe not the World Series 161 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: because obviously after that game we ended up dropping two 162 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: more at home. So always be a Will Clein fan. Yeah, absolutely, 163 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: did you go? 164 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 6: This is what I think everyone wants to know. 165 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 5: If you had to choose between migi Row and kek 166 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: who's taken the ball in that situation. 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: You know what I would say. I know one guy 168 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: was in the game, one goes out. But if I 169 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: had to pick one, I got migi Row right now, 170 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: key k is he's gone gone cold recently, kitchen, so 171 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: he's given up walks and some homers, so I'd go 172 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: Toguro started. It started great, ye then yeah, a little 173 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: too Froggy, that's right, that's right. 174 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: Mindset after game five, you guys are going back to Toronto. 175 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: You need to win both on the road. 176 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: Mindset. After game five. Was the first thing I did 177 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 3: after we lost that game was I texted Megiro and said, 178 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: you're starting game six. So that was the first thing 179 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: I did. I just felt we needed some infusion of 180 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: meg Euro in game six, and then I sent out 181 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: a text letting the guys know that I want everyone 182 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: to have get to Toronto and then have an off 183 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: day so there's no workout, no problem. But then shortly 184 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: thereafter they reached back out to me saying the veteran 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: guy is saying, appreciate it, but we want to go. 186 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 3: We want to work out. We've come this far, we 187 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: want to work out. And so at that point in time, 188 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: I'm on the plane, I'm giddy excited that our guys 189 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: want to work out and not take the option to 190 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: not practice. And so everyone shows up, got their work in, 191 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: and I felt better about that. And this group, a 192 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: lot of this group has played in elimination game on 193 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: the road, so we've been there. So I wasn't worried 194 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: about the moment getting too big. I was happy that 195 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: Yama was starting, and I just felt if we could 196 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: just sort of hang in there, we're going to find 197 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: a way to win. And again going back to Miggy, 198 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: I just felt he made some great plays defensively, got 199 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: to hit that night, and I just felt having a 200 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: guy like that inserted into the lineup, he's gonna not 201 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: literally but he will die on the field to try 202 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: to get us to win a game, and so I 203 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 3: was excited about that. 204 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely need to expand more on you know, Miggy robing 205 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: in that lineup. But first that break between games five 206 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: game six, the boys want to go to the ballpark, 207 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: you're there. How much of the race between Hessong and 208 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: I know you've talked a lot about this already a camp, 209 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: It's been asked a lot, but the race between Dave Roberts, 210 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 4: heess On Kim, how much of that was kind of 211 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 4: spur of the moment. Any of that kindind of premeditated 212 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: a little bit here, Oh did you ever find the 213 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: sniper that got you? 214 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: That's another Yeah, that was a pretty good face plan. 215 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: How banged up was a knee hamstring? 216 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: Where it was hamstring? So I didn't find the sniper. 217 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: So premeditator. I think it started where I was so 218 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: excited about our guys wanting up practice. So then I 219 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 3: was excited, and then as I got out there, the 220 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: mood was fine, and I just wanted to jazz it 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: up a little bit, add a little levity, and so 222 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: I felt that why not challenge our fastest runner to 223 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: a foot race? And I didn't expect to win, but 224 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: I didn't expect to do a face plant. But I 225 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: think my purpose was served and everyone had fun. There 226 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: was a little levity, and then we went back to work. 227 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: So some of it was premeditated, but it just didn't 228 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: The plan wasn't exactly, didn't plout exactly as I wanted. 229 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: Well, that was that was twenty twenty five, it's not 230 00:11:59,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 4: two thousand and four. 231 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: More, Doc, that's right, that's right. The legs ain't doing 232 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: what they do. But the thing is, thoughways Clinton, is 233 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: that your brain, as I'm fifty three and now your 234 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: brain still thinks that it's like twenty seven twenty eight, 235 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 3: And you'll learn that when you get older. But then 236 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: your body does it right, but you still earn that place. 237 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: But let me tell you right now, I will never 238 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: do a full sprint, a full speed sprint ever again, 239 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: because my body is fifty three. Breaking news. 240 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: You were fresh out of the gate, though, like you 241 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 5: start out hot. I think the underrated part of this. 242 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 5: As I saw you the next day, they're golf carting 243 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 5: you around. You've still actually had dirt on your hat 244 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 5: from the face plant, and I was like, that's a 245 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 5: gamer right there. 246 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: That's right, And I did take a tourtoll shot too, 247 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: so I was like, guys are doing tourto shots and 248 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: doing whatever they could to get through the series of like. 249 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 4: Sign me up on then either way, Game six and 250 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: seven was gonna feel good, dude, that's. 251 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: Right, that's right. I felt great. Man. 252 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 5: So let's talk about a little bit about Game six, 253 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: specifically the ending, because there and we've talked about this 254 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 5: at camp already, just the different elements that could have 255 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 5: k not gone your way. It changes everything. But when 256 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 5: the ball gets stuck under the wall, what is your 257 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 5: initial reaction? What did you want to see from Justin Dean? 258 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 5: And how does that play out in real time? Reacting 259 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: to something that we would probably never see again in 260 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 5: that situation. 261 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that I was. I was very happy 262 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: to see that he put his hands up. But I 263 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: will say, as the rule plays, if the ball is lodged, 264 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: they will look at it. But Keith k and Justin 265 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: put their hands up, and so it was a ground 266 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: rule double. I felt good about that. I was so shocked. 267 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: But I think for me is once that balls hit, 268 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the next move. So, to be quite 269 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: honest with you, I'm not really reacting to the play, 270 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out, Okay, do I need to 271 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: have the infield in, do I need to get somebody 272 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: else going, you know, who's coming up in the top 273 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: half of the inning, so all those things, But it 274 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: was it was just a really heavy play, and that's 275 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: something that I take a lot of pride in and 276 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: talking to our guy, not just about the talent, but 277 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: being heady baseball players and knowing the rules, knowing you know, 278 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: Miguel Rojas, we practice the infield in all the time, 279 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: and so to make an accurate throw there. So yeah, 280 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 3: Game six, you know all the pitchers that we used, 281 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: the different situations. So but to look back at that though, Katie, 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: it was it was a heady play by Ki k 283 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: a n justin. 284 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: Talking about the next move. How quickly do you have 285 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: to make decisions. 286 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: Very quickly because in the postseason, obviously everything happens faster, 287 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: and you know, on the margins everything matters, and you know, 288 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: not jumping ahead. But Game seven, when Miggi hit the homer, 289 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: that was the only time that postseason where I really 290 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: turned into a fan, because as a manager, you've got 291 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: to expect good things happen, bad things to kind of 292 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: how do you react or respond right, And so that's 293 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: something that I wasn't expecting. So once he hit that homer, 294 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: I just turned into a fanboy. And so but you've 295 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: got to be steps ahead of it, because you know, 296 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: I think that's why people I probably get frustrated with me. 297 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: You know that I don't show a lot of reactions 298 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: because I'm always thinking about the next move, the next move, 299 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: and then once you put your fan hat on, you're 300 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: not prepared for what outcome has happening in real time. 301 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: Migail Rojas was on the show the other day and 302 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: he said when he was in the on deck circle, 303 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: he looked back looking for Danny Lamb and the Dodgers 304 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: bench coach, and he had been pinch hit for in 305 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: his career hundreds of times. He looked back to see 306 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: if Danny was going to call him back for a 307 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: pinch shitter. Danny wasn't there. He said this at bat 308 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: is Mine and he couldn't It wasn't that he couldn't 309 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: believe it, but you telling him that he was going 310 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: to start six and then seven, of course, was such 311 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: a huge moment for him and probably the most unsuspecting 312 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: guy to hit a home run. 313 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 6: He's not a home run hitter. 314 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: To hit it in that moment. 315 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 6: What was bigger for you? 316 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: The home run the defensive play that he made. 317 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: I think the home run because I think that we 318 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: can all count on Miggy's defense, and that's why, honestly 319 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: why he was inserted in the game, and I just 320 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: felt that he was going to do something helped the 321 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: Dodgers win the home run. Because I talk a lot 322 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: about the game honorship and how or when I don't know, 323 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: but Miggie, to his credit, all season long, was a 324 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: mentor to Guy as a cheerleader, played for us when 325 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: we needed him, and then then you get to the postseason, 326 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: and then he's not playing, not starting, and then when 327 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: I called on him, he was ready. And so for 328 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: him to get his flowers, his moment on a big 329 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: on a on a big in a big spot I 330 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: always had for him, that's something that's going to be 331 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: talked about for years, and I think that him doing 332 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: things the right way, the game honored him in that moment. 333 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's something that I'm going to really be 334 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: really proud of. 335 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: The immediate impact he made. Obviously, Game seven makes an 336 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: insane scoop from a heady play from Key k double play. 337 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: You're like, oh man, this could be real Homer defensive 338 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: play in Game seven to keep things alive. What was 339 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: kind of the gut the heart telling you that now 340 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 4: is the time to pull the MIGGI lever. 341 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: I think you know nothing against Andy at all. Andy 342 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: was a big part of getting us there. I think 343 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: for me it's you don't know until you know. And 344 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: I say that, and experience Andy next year, the year 345 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: is following, and throughout his career he's going to know 346 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: how fleeting or how important, how much he's going to 347 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: care more about the postseason as you get more experienced. 348 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: And so now when you're talking about Miguel Rojas, he's 349 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: had a ten year career. He's talking about he's going 350 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: to retire in twenty twenty six. Twenty twenty five could 351 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 3: have been his last year with the Dodgers. So I 352 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: wanted to bet on guys that it meant everything to them. 353 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: And so again, nothing against Andy, but I just felt 354 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 3: right there he was scuffling at the plate. Tommy at 355 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: that point in time, we felt he can go back 356 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: out there and play center field, and you know, like 357 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: I said, Miggy was going to do anything he could 358 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: help us on both sides of the baseball in game 359 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: six and seven. So when you're riding a lineup out, 360 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: I said, there's nine guys that I felt were of 361 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: that same mind, and I was going to bet on that. 362 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 5: When you look at the pitching that you had to 363 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: manage in six and seven, I mean, your Game seven 364 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: starter is pitching the ninth inning all of a sudden 365 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 5: and Tyler Glass. Now in game six you have all 366 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 5: hands on deck situation with your rotation as your bullpen. 367 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 5: How do you looking at you know only guys only 368 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 5: have a couple innings at this point, you also have 369 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 5: y'amamoto and aren't sure on what that looks like. 370 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 6: How do you manage ahead while also having. 371 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 5: To react in real time to these guys where everything 372 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 5: is on the line and you need all of them. 373 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: I think for me, there was a certain amount of 374 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: guys that I was going to use in Game seven 375 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: and even in Game six, to be quite friend because 376 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: it was elimination. So I think that there's a certain 377 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: amount of guys I was going to use. And then 378 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: so now once you have a certain group of guys 379 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: that you're going to use. Then you've got to figure 380 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: out how to stagger those innings out and way somebody 381 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: not going being a sharp versus introducing somebody else that 382 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: you don't envision being a part of that equation. So 383 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: that's kind of where my head is at. And then, 384 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: you know, because even show Hey, for example, I knew 385 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 3: that he didn't have his best stuff, but for me 386 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: not to try to get him through three innings potential 387 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: could have introduced somebody else that I didn't want to 388 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: pitch for usage or for whatever reason, and so you 389 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: still got to cover nine innings. And so I think 390 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: for me it's really just watching to see what the 391 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: guy has. But it's betting on people. If I've learned 392 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: anything about the post season, it's you've got to bet 393 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: on people. And you know, the season is a long season. 394 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: There's ups and downs. It's a marathon, and you have 395 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 3: a lot more latitude and leeway to kind of navigate it. 396 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: But the postseason, for me, it's about betting on people, 397 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 3: and my job, the coach's jobs are to get these 398 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: guys prepared mentally and physically, you know, for that for 399 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 3: those big spots, because everything is certainly way more magnified. 400 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: You bet on people. Kyk is easy to bet on. 401 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: There's something intangible about that guy. I mean, there's no 402 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: place in the world he needs to be except in 403 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: a Dodger uniform, especially in October. But what was your 404 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: reaction when he's running to the ball in the ninth inning, 405 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: you kind of see his back. He didn't think he 406 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: made the play. Andy Poe has comes up obviously with 407 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: the ball. He's Michael, thank god. From your dugout perspective, 408 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: what are you thinking when he's running that route. 409 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: I was just praying that it stayed in the ballpark. 410 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 3: That's another play that I thought the game was going 411 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: to be over. And key K, you know, he scooped 412 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 3: the ball, so key K sort of broke in on 413 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: that getting trying to get a good jump on the ball, 414 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: and fortunately Andy came out of nowhere. And you know, 415 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: you're talking about the moment. It's one of Yeah, key 416 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: K thought he lost the World Series. We lost the 417 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: World Series, and you know, Andy makes this great play 418 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: and key K's only concern is did you catch the baseball? 419 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: And so but it's just it's one of those things 420 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: that I think that's why everyone loved that World Series 421 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 3: because every it just seemed like every player sold out 422 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 3: on both sides of the baseball and left it all 423 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: out there. 424 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 4: Some guy who really sold out left it all out there, 425 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: Yoshioba Yamamoto turns out three twenty five. 426 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: Maybe a little light underpaid. 427 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: It was a little light made your job a lot easier, 428 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 4: made all of our you know, off season a lot happier. 429 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 4: He I think he recently said he doesn't know. Does 430 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 4: one to stat you just want to be thought of 431 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: a legend. 432 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: Or a hero. Guy is a hero? 433 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: What what does it mean to somebody like you and 434 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 4: to that clubhouse what Yama did to to put that 435 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 4: team on his right shoulder. 436 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: I just have the utmost respect for him, and you know, 437 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: and also yeah, I mean he was pushed beyond limits. 438 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: It just doesn't happen. And you see this, you know, 439 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: you see the play, the Pie's play right there. But 440 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: with Yamamoto, did I think that he said it early on, 441 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: losing is not an option and we needed every single 442 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: inning and performance that he gave us to get through. 443 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: You know, you're talking about Milwaukee, Philly and then obviously 444 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: the World Series. What he did will be talked about 445 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: for years but what I will say is that I 446 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: respect the way that he kind of wants to put 447 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 3: that in the past to focus on this year. And 448 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: you know, that's what the great ones do. You're always 449 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: trying to push yourself and not you know, rest on 450 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: your laurels. And so I respect that. And but yeah, 451 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about his performance forever and 452 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 3: we're like it happened in that three twenty five. See 453 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: it seems like a bargain. 454 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 4: Now, say, I don't want you guys to stop winning 455 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: World Series, but if you do, we could have that. 456 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 4: You know, we saw a lot of Kirk Gibson Homer 457 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: on the board there at Dodger Stadium. We could see 458 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: some Yamamoto on there. App so you keep winning, I 459 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: guess you guys can keep winning. 460 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, Dade. 461 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 5: When was when did you decide that Yamamota was going 462 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 5: to be available? And how much of that was Blake 463 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 5: Snell really gutting it out before, because I don't think, 464 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: and I think Blake has talked about this like he 465 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 5: really had to grind through that arm was that was 466 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 5: all he had. 467 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 6: So when did you decide, Okay, y'all's coming. 468 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: In well, I knew that he was going to pitch 469 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: that night. Yachta Sinse told Mark Pryor that he was 470 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: going to be available, and so that was news to me. 471 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 3: I was I was like, okay, so if he's available, 472 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 3: then I'm going to find a way. Yeah, what a weapon. 473 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: And I think for me is I was going to 474 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: find a way to get him in the game. And 475 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 3: then kind of my point earlier was I knew he 476 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: only had so many bullets, so how can when can 477 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 3: I deploy them? So with Glass and Robo and Blake, 478 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: I just felt at that point in time, Blake gave 479 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: us everything he had. He was on fumes and again 480 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: you're talking about elimination game. I needed to get out 481 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: of that inning, and I felt in that spot Yama 482 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 3: was the best person to get us out of the inning, 483 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: because I think in the postseason you kind of you 484 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: can't look too far ahead because every moment could be 485 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: the game. And so at that moment, I just felt 486 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 3: that Yama was the guy, and then I was going 487 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: to ride him for as long as I could. And 488 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: I think after that first one in a third or something, 489 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: he said to me, Daijo bu, like I'm good I'm good. 490 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: And then as a manager, I'm looking at my pictures 491 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: in particular for them to look at me and to 492 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 3: make eye contact, because I think that that's something that 493 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: is telling for a manager when the pictures looking for 494 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: eye contact versus not looking for eye contact, saying that 495 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: they wanted to stay in the game. And so he 496 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: was not looking my way, so I felt confident that 497 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: he was still the right guy. 498 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: Which parade was better. 499 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: The second one because it was the most recent, I think, yeah, 500 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: that's right. That was my next anwer, you know what, 501 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: I think the first one, the first one was awesome. 502 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 3: I think, gosh, dang it, man, I just the first 503 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: one was great. The second one was great. There was 504 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: more people for the second one. I just you can really, 505 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: when you're in the bubble of playing or coaching, you 506 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: can't really appreciate how many people are enjoying those moments 507 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: with you. And then so to then be on the 508 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: streets in Los Angeles and to see tears and cheers, 509 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: then you can sort of appreciate, oh my god, these 510 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: people were living and dying and how massive it is. 511 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: So that's something that's really eye opening. The passion, the 512 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: love for the Dodgers, and you know, the city's gone 513 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: through a lot, the country's gone through a lot. But 514 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: you know, I've heard from a lot of people that 515 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: aren't even sports fans or dog fans like that World Series. 516 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: I just could not. I was glued to the TV. 517 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: And that's a credit to all of us. 518 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 4: Best World series I've ever seen, and i'n't seen a 519 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 4: lot of them, but I've seen a lot of them. 520 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: Let's spin it forward. 521 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: I watched your your speech here Day one full squad 522 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: got me wanted to run through a wall. You sell 523 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 4: like a guy that's been through quite f and literally everything, 524 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: and you were able to pull receipts and tell guys, 525 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 4: you know the keyk play a Migey role, play guys 526 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: playing the game the right way. Is that kind of 527 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 4: what it is? Just you've been through it all now, 528 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: like that was the most I'm trying to think the 529 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 4: right word for this. Like you were locked in, you 530 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: were laser focused in that messaging, and you're coming off 531 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: of back to back World series. Maybe last year is 532 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: a little bit of let's not have the World series hangover? 533 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: Now? 534 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: You know how to deal with that? Is is that 535 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: a little bit of the messaging there you put in 536 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: day one, We've seen it. This is what I'm telling you, 537 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 4: this is real. Every guy in this clubhouse, you mean 538 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: something to this team. Speak a little bit about your 539 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 4: message there. 540 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. I think there's nothing more powerful 541 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: than experience and having a lot of our guys go 542 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: through and see it come to pass, you know, using 543 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: you know, the fifty ninth person in the clubhouse, the 544 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: sixty fifth person in the clubhouse to then pitch in 545 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: a World Series games. We've seen that year and year, 546 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: and so I think that me bringing that to light 547 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: lands with everyone in the room, where obviously Miguel Rojas, 548 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: a bench player, a veteran guy, has argued the biggest 549 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: moment in Dodger history that happened. So I think that messaging, 550 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: I think is easy to kind of make land or 551 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: have land. I think for me is just trying to 552 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: keep guys proactive and focused and hungry. I use that 553 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: analogy about the greyhounds and how they kind of race 554 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 3: chasing something and not worrying about what's around them. But 555 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: also I kind of the thing I really wanted to 556 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 3: get across in the meeting was, you know, competition, real competition, 557 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: is in its truest form is when both parties are prepared, 558 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: and if you're really really prepared, fear doesn't supersede overtake 559 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: the confidence and the joy of competing. And so my 560 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: challenge to the guys is really try to dig into 561 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: your soul and poke holes in yourself and how can 562 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: you get better? And so then when we're ready to 563 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: compete in the biggest spots, we don't fail. Grounder to Mooky, 564 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: Grounder to Miggy, a Liner, soft Liner to Keith Ka 565 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: in between hop to MIGGI to pick it. You know, 566 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: Freddy had a big pick off of Tommy Edmund throw 567 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: in Philly. You know Tommy saves a play going to 568 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: is left to keep the ball in the infield. Those 569 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 3: things happened because we prepare, and so that's kind of 570 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 3: the overarching message I try to give you guys. But 571 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: the easy part for me is every single one of 572 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: those guys believes it themselves, and so that's what's exciting 573 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: for me as a manager. 574 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: Well, as we look towards twenty twenty six, one advantage 575 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: that this organization has for the first time is you 576 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 5: can look to see a full season of Two Way Show. 577 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 6: Hey, Tani and it's going to be a little different. 578 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 5: We've talked about the WBC, the preparation starting pitching death 579 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 5: and being conservative with all of your pitchers. What how 580 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 5: can he as a full two way player, really transform 581 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 5: your season. What are some realistic expectations for him for 582 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 5: a guy that defies all expectations. 583 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think it's it's a good question. 584 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: I don't. I know Shohey is trying to always, you know, 585 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: strive to be better. I expect him to throw more 586 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: innings than he did last year, don't. I have a 587 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: hard time kind of saying how many homers he could hit, 588 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: or how many runs he can drive in, or if 589 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: he's going to win the Cy Young. I know his 590 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: goal is to win the World Series, to be the 591 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: best player he can be. And when we're talking about 592 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: his talent, that should be an MVP obviously in the conversation, 593 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: that should be a Cy Young in the conversation. So, 594 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: you know, he's the best player that ever played this game. 595 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: So for him to be able to stay healthy, keep 596 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: him on the field, We're better for it. The fans 597 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: are certainly better for it. But I think with him, 598 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: anything is possible. Katie. Anything's possible with that guy. 599 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: You're trying to run it back with a good core 600 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: group of guys. But two huge acquisitions in Kyle Tech 601 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: and Edwin Diaz. What's been the earliest impact. 602 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: Earliest kind of impact and just seeing is both guys 603 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: are comfortable in their own skin. I think. I think 604 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 3: Kyle had offered opportunities to go elsewhere, wanted to be 605 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: a Dodger, and he's a quiet guy. He's not going 606 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: to be a sound bite guy. He just wants to 607 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: play baseball. He's a five tool player. He can do 608 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: it all. He's going to impact games every night in 609 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: a lot of different ways. But I think that he's 610 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: not he doesn't need to try to fit in because 611 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: it's just who he is. Who he is. I love 612 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: that Edwin Diaz is a guy that's just a lovable 613 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: type guy. He's very accountable, he loves baseball. He committed 614 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: to coming on the other side of the country, being 615 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: from Puerto Rico, to play for the Dodgers, to be 616 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: a part of this. He wants to win a championship 617 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: in the worst way. We now have a close or 618 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: who I feel that is going to free up other 619 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: guys in our pen. But great competitor, great stuff. I 620 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: can't wait to hear Timmy or Tommy trumpet when he 621 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: comes out there. But again, he's like fun and lovable 622 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: when he gets out there, he's a savage, and I 623 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: love those type guys. 624 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 4: I have a piggyback kind of in the same vein 625 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: of my previous question. But we've heard a lot about 626 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 4: the target on the Dodgers back. A lot of people 627 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: like to say the Dodgers are ruining baseball when I 628 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: can get into that, BS because you're not. Does you 629 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: feel the target anymore? Is it just you wake up, 630 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: You're used to it, you seeing the red dot on 631 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 4: your chest. 632 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: I think I'm used to it. It's been that way. 633 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: I feel it's been that way since we've been here, 634 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: but certainly since I've been here. But certainly, you know, 635 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: when you win a championship, then people want to take 636 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: what's yours. And I just feel really good and confident 637 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: that our guys have embraced that and we're not going 638 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: to relinquish it. We're not going to give it away. 639 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: Somebody's got to earn it and take it from us. 640 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: But we also understand that there's a lot of work 641 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: to be done. So you know, people love to hate 642 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: the Dodgers and that means that we've done some good things. 643 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Davis, we look to wrap this up a 644 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 5: little bit. When you think about twenty twenty five, is 645 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 5: there a lasting image one that sticks out to you 646 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 5: that kind of captures that whole season? 647 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: What captures twenty twenty five? Yeah, there was a certainly 648 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: a lot of moments, a lot of great moments, a 649 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: lot of you know what, I think we lost in Baltimore, 650 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: We lost three in Pittsburgh, we lost two in Baltimore, 651 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: and mean the second one was after Yamamoto was fantastic 652 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: and left the game with a no hitter or gave 653 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: up one hit late, and we ended up losing that game. 654 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: The way the guys came back after that, that's Sunday 655 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 3: in Baltimore, show Hay led off with a homer and 656 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: we just took off from there. So I think that 657 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: for me, that was the point that our team decided 658 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: to hit the go button, hit the gas and not 659 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: make excuses. The Padres are at our heels. The Dimbacks 660 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: might have been at our heels, and we were in 661 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: it at that point in time, but we just took 662 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: off and we stuck together. So I think that's one 663 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 3: of the hallmarks for our club that it's not linear 664 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: and you know, when it is hot, when things aren't good, 665 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: we stay together and perform. So that was something that 666 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 3: I really that really sticks sticks out. The Tao Homer 667 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia was a big one. You know, winning in 668 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 3: Philly is tough. That team was really good. It's a 669 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: hostile environment. How we beat those guys when everyone, I 670 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: think all the pundits had those guys favored last year. 671 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: It was a big one. But yeah, there were just 672 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: so many moments and I think that you can look 673 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 3: back at our season and it almost seems like there 674 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 3: could have been a couple dozen players that had big 675 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: moments for us last year and that that's a lot. 676 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 2: There is no way in the world you thought Miguil 677 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: Rojas was going. 678 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: To hit them the chance, Oh yeah, exactly. That's the 679 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: thing is that all these people that think that analytics 680 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: is everything, that's a point one chance for at Homer. 681 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: You just got a bet on the person. And that's 682 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: the great thing about our game. It's fun and you 683 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 3: just never know. And the game on Amigi and fortunately 684 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 3: for the Dodgers. He's a Dodger. 685 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about the wheel play. 686 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: Dave. 687 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: We appreciate you so very much. Thank you so much 688 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: for taking the time and breaking it down. This is 689 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: the stuff the fans love because everyone thinks that they 690 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: can do your job, and it is the hardest job 691 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 2: in the world. Best of luck on the three peat, 692 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: Good luck all right. 693 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 3: Thank you guys, thanks for having me. Appreciate you.