1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Meeting the twenty twenty five drift class. Welcome Bird Gang. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. The two of 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: us are joined by Jordan Birch, the third round pick 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: out Oregon. He and the rest of the rookies are 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: in town for Rookie Minnie Camp. They were on the 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: field on Friday. So what do we see and what 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: do we hear from this year's draft class. It's Cardinals 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode eight eighty two, and it starts now. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Food to Baker, what Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: so more hurry magic. 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigdriolu. 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Danny, Happy Friday. I would say this is 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: a rare occurrence in the off season to have a 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: show on a Friday, But this is the second time 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: in three weeks we've had a Friday show. It does seem, 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: it does seem that it was a long time ago 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: that the draft was just a couple of weeks ago. 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time it wasn't. Because now the 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: players are here. After talking about them for darn near 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: two weeks, they are finally in the building. 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: The draft feels like way longer than just two weeks ago. 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, this is the first look at rookies Rookie 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: Minni camp this weekend. 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday. On the field. They arrived on Thursday, 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: and in the past Rookie Minni Camp was a lot 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: on the field, I mean, it was a full blown practice, 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: But as we heard from Jonathan Gannon earlier on Friday, 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of more of an orientation. Hey, get to 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: know the building, get to know the people in the building. 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Where do I need to be? Where are things? And 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: then you get a small taste, which we'll get into 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: a small taste of a NFL practice. 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: To a certain extent, it's like orientation, Hey, this is 39 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: where the cafeteria is, this is how you get into 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: the locker room, this is how you get to the 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: colt up right, this is the weight room. Just kind 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: of getting situated, getting a feel for what a schedule's 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: going to look like, at least in the off season 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: with going through the playbook and getting out on the 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: field and lifting weights and just kind of getting familiar 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: with the staff that is also here. So that's really 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: what a lot of rookie mini camp has become. There's 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: a little bit of i should say activity on the field. 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: It's not we didn't at least see. 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: A whole lot. You want to get into it stuff, 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: all right, Yes, it's not a full practice. The Cardinals rookies. 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: You're talking about the seven player draft class and the 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: six undrafted free agents, no trial players. So literally there 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: were thirteen players on the field and as a joke 55 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: to you as we walked out, the support staff I'm 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: talking about coaches, trainers, assistants probably outnumbered the players two 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: to one, three to one. It was. You want to 58 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: talk about one on one instruction like in a classroom setting, 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: smaller classrooms you kind of learn a little bit more 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: as opposed to the big lecture hall. These two days 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: are basically one on one instruction with your position coach. 62 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: The first fifteen minutes media was out, there was watching 63 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: from the far field stretching, which it look is part 64 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: of what rookie mini camp is about, right, What are 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: the stretching lineups going to look like what can you 66 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: expect when you were out here going through a practice 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: with veterans and you are going full speed, so that 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: makes sense. And then we saw about five minutes of 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: the positions separated, which was we saw two defensive linemen, right, 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: we saw like four offensive linemen and they're not doing 71 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: anything super intense defensive line and we're doing some sled 72 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: work working with the dummies. It's just kind of getting 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: situated with what is the coaching staff going to ask 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: of you before these rookies are practicing with veterans, do 75 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: they have the foundation at least of what the form 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: is expected of them? 77 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: And that was big because we were closer to where 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: both Walter Nolan and Elijah Simmons the two defensive lineman 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: and Simmons, yes, looks all the parts of six' one 80 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: three thirty, four but you had Coach, debo the d line, 81 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: coach And Nick rolis over there to the defensive coordinator 82 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: and to your, point it was, More, okay this is 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: the beginning steps of your. Footwork this is how we, 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: practice this is how we attack the. Sled it's about hand. 85 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Placement some is new to these, players because every coach 86 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: teaches a little bit, differently and What Walter nolan the 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: third learned at Ole miss might be a little bit 88 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: different as far as what The cardinals ask of him 89 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: here as far as where you place your, feet where 90 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: you place your. Hands so a lot of a lot of, 91 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: LEARNING i, Think and it's, basically you, know start with 92 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: step one and then step, two and then you bring 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: it all together when you get assimilated with the veterans 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: who will be here next. 95 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: Week so getting assimilated to the, heat that's. True now 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: some of the, players it's become a lot more. Common 97 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: there are just options out here in the valley to 98 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: train either for the combine or the couple weeks in. 99 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: Between so there are some of them that have experience 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: in the. Heat but that is also part of. It 101 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: as you're out there in the, sun you gotta get 102 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: used to. 103 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: IT i, mean it was eighty. Eight it wasn't. Bad 104 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: there was a slight. Breeze now full, disclosure the media 105 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: is placed under the tree under some. Shade but it 106 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: wasn't too too, bad. 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: No but that's part of. It in the next couple 108 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: of weeks and then you get into mini camp here In. 109 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: June, NOW i thought you had the number one takeaway 110 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: of what we actually, saw and that was offensive Lineman 111 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Hayden connor actually snapping the football when you had the 112 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: four offensive, now someone had to snap To Connor, singer 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: someone had to snap the. Ball and we Know hayden 114 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: has limited experience doing that in the playoffs because of 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: an injury situation At, texas and the other three offensive 116 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: linemen they're all. 117 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: TACKLES i said That moore is a little tongue in 118 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: cheek of let's not jump the conclusions from what we 119 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: saw the first time the rookie stepped on the. Field 120 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: it was probably more so you need somebody to snap the, 121 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: ball and he has at least some experience. There that 122 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: was please don't take that. 123 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Seriously but it's again that, versatility and, yes if you're 124 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: practicing at a certain, position it means, that, hey in a. Pinch, 125 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: NO i don't Expect Hayden connor to be the backup 126 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: to yell to, froll but he does have that. Experience 127 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: and when you got other three offensive linemen who probably 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: have never snapped the, football you don't want someone to 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: snap The, now my biggest takeaway was the hummingbird that 130 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: kept floating around. Us and that was basically for the 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes as we watched team. Stretch was the 132 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: excitement of rookie. 133 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: Minting, yeah it was, nice, nice a little bit of nature, 134 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: there all. 135 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Right AS i mentioned off the, Top danny AND i 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: had the chance to talk With Jordan, birch the team's 137 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: new outside. LINEBACKER i do think it's important to note 138 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: that again this is the first for, everyone and again 139 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: we heard From jordan after the draft and the conference, 140 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: call but we got to here from them a little 141 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: bit more here in studio with. Us so not sure 142 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: if you saw this after your name was announced as 143 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: The cardinals pick in the third, round but your head, 144 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: Coach Dan lanning At oregon posted this on social. Media 145 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: cardinals got a game. Wrecker you're? Smiling, Yeah does that 146 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: accurately describe your? Game? 147 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah? Sure why, WELL i would say my time At, 148 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: oregon anything they, know any position they put me, AT 149 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: i was able to learn. It and then you Know 150 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: rick have from that position and So, landing he kind 151 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: of you, know taught me the ins and. Outs but 152 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: whenever he needs on the, FIELD i can go do. 153 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: It jordan you're In arizona now for mini. Camp what 154 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: have you learned so? Far because it's it's kind of like, orientation, 155 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: Right is that a fair way to describe it for 156 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: what you're kind of learning out? 157 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: Here, YEAH i say so so. Far you, know learning 158 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: the you, know the way around the. Building you, know 159 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: you can get lost cause the first day here and 160 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: then trying to. Learn you, know my position coach has 161 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: been pretty good at teaching me what to do on 162 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: the field and off the. Field so just honeing in 163 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: and listening to what they have for. 164 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Me you mentioned on the conference call that your first 165 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: impression of this coaching staff was laid back and. Chill 166 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: what specifically gave you that vibe when you met whether 167 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: it WAS jag Or Nick rollis or your position. 168 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: Coach, yeah, well starting from the. Top WHEN i met WITH, 169 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: jg he like kicked his feet. Up he was just 170 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: telling me like when you come in as a, rookie you, 171 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: know this is what you have to, do you, know 172 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 4: get your work. Done it wasn't like a you, know 173 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: yelling and you, know getting on me at all. Times 174 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 4: it was just, like you, know you know what to, 175 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: do you know what position you? Play just get it, 176 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 4: done and then down the, line like all the, coaches 177 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: just instilling with the playbooks supposed to be and how 178 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 4: it's supposed to look on the. 179 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: Field you might have been the first person to Describe 180 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: gannon as chill or laid, back because everyone always says 181 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: he's high, energy but he said on the field he's high. 182 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: Energy but you might have been the first person to 183 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: describe him as laid back and. 184 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: Chill, YEAH i MEAN i can. SEE i can tell 185 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: it's from today how he. Was he was all around 186 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: watching and you, know give him, tips SO i can 187 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: kind of see the energy coming. Out but WHEN i 188 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: was on my, visit he was kind of like a, 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: cool mellow. 190 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: Guy you haven't had a chance to work out with veterans, 191 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: yet but you are entering a pretty veteran heavy. Room 192 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: that was an area of emphasis this offseason for this. 193 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: Organization so what are you wanting to learn from the 194 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: first couple of days or weeks from the veterans in your? 195 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: Room, Yeah i'll, say how how does a veteran carry 196 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 4: yourself throughout the, building his day in and day, out his? 197 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: Preparation how how does he go through his day learning? 198 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: Playbooks so just you, know asking questions when they get 199 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: here and you, know trying to figure out what's the 200 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 4: best THING i can do. 201 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Now one of those. VETERANS i don't know IF i 202 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: would quite call him a veteran, yet But Xavier thomas 203 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: someone you're familiar with high school. Teammates what is he 204 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: told you in the lead up to your arrival here 205 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: as far as the, area the, team any advice you 206 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: got from? 207 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: Him, yeah just be. Prepared you, know he came in last, 208 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 4: year he had to be prepared and you, know learn a. 209 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 4: Lot so just having that mindset to never feel like 210 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: you got, it but you, know come every day to 211 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 4: learn and just you, know be ready at all. 212 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Times curious who was the better athlete in high? School 213 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: me for? 214 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: Sure, okay just gotta make sure most definitely mean you 215 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: ask him me for. 216 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: Sure is there a funny moment or favorite moment from 217 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: high school football with the two of, you because you 218 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: joked in your post draft conference call about the two 219 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: of you lining up against high school offensive lineman and 220 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: it wasn't much of a. 221 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 4: Competition, YEAH i, MEAN i don't think there was anything, 222 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 4: funny but just like you, know us being on the 223 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 4: field at the same. TIME i had to learn a 224 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: lot from, Him like when the college coaches came to 225 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: watch him, play they would see me out, there so 226 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: he kind of helped a. Lot but just having him 227 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: around was a great. 228 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: EXPERIENCE i also read you lettered in basketball and was 229 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: actually recruited By South carolina to be a two. Sport 230 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: did it ever get to where you were on the 231 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: basketball court At South? 232 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: Carolina, NO i never went out. THERE i was trying 233 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: to learn my playbook from football. FIRST i, just you, 234 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: know left. 235 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: Alone what made you go the football route versus? 236 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: BASKETBALL i THINK i was doing. Better so in high 237 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: SCHOOL i was playing. Receiver they SAID i was too, 238 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: slow SO i moved to d N, well football came 239 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: around like it wasn't the. Same SO i, just you, 240 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: know left it. 241 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: Alone when you're working on getting familiar with this, organization the, 242 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: expectations learning your way around the building and the playbook 243 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: and the, scheme and what's going to be asked of, 244 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: You what does a typical day look like for? You 245 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: and in terms of learning the, playbook is that something 246 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: you're just constantly looking through it or are you asking? 247 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: Questions are, you you, know going through the motions on the, 248 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: field what does that process look like to? 249 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: You, YEAH i try to ask a lot of questions 250 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: SO i can get it BEFORE i go on to the. 251 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 4: Field but it's just Like i'm in the. HALLWAY i 252 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: got time to step through WHAT i need to step, 253 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: through or ask the coach to walk it through for. 254 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: Me but just making SURE i have BEFORE i go, 255 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: out there's the main thing for. 256 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: Me how difficult or different or difficult is AN nfl 257 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: playbook versus a college? 258 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: PLAYBOOK i, say it's a lot of. Similarities like if 259 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: you know where it's coming, from you kind of can 260 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: figure out what the guys next thing he's. Doing if 261 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 4: you're to the, boundary you're to the, field just you, 262 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: know figuring out what the guys around you're doing or 263 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: help you out a. Lot so it's kind of a 264 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: lot of. 265 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: Similarities there's a lot of life changes going on Of, 266 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: okay you're moving on from college and you get drafted 267 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: and now you're thrown out, here and have you ever 268 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: been To arizona before even coming out here for Rookie Minni. 269 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 4: Caamp i've been To arizona a few times AND i 270 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: was training out, here SO i was down the, street 271 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: SO i got used to the weather a little, bit 272 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: but it's different when he might take. 273 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: You a little. 274 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: Bit but there's a lot of changes going, on not 275 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: just as a professional football, player but also kind of 276 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: as a person right living somewhere. New how have you 277 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: gone ABOUT i know it hasn't been a long, time 278 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 3: but how have you gone about adjusting to everything going? 279 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: ON i mean just asking the people Around So i've 280 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: been asking the coaches or people that you know live, 281 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: here like what's the best plots to be? In you, 282 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: KNOW i got a former teammate on the, team SO 283 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: i was just, like where SHOULD i go or different 284 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: things like. That so just trying to get used to 285 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: it and asking everybody around me how long did it 286 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: take them to get used to the. 287 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 3: Area when you're looking for new restaurants or, stuff do 288 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: you have a favorite type of food that you're going 289 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: to go looking for? 290 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: FIRST i Like italian, food so that'll probably be. 291 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: Okay so if anyone Has italian, recommendations Let jorde, know no. 292 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: PLEASE i started this conversation off about asking about your. 293 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Game we've seen you in a three point, Stance we've 294 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: seen you stand up on the. Edge what do you 295 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: like about both having the hand in the dirt and 296 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: then standing up ready to. 297 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 4: Go i'll, say standing up you can see more of 298 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: what's going. On so if a guy's coming back or 299 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 4: they shift the running, back you can kind of see 300 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: what's going. On three point, stance it's kind of like 301 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 4: a loaded. Stance you're just you, know getting off the. Rock, 302 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: SO i, MEAN i had had fun doing. BOTH i 303 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: really did enjoy. It but you, know it's kind of 304 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: the same growing. 305 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: Up who was a player or team that you watched a. 306 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: LOT i didn't really watch too much too MUCH. NFL 307 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: i watched a little. BIT i think the two thousand 308 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: and nine when The cardinals. Played that was my First 309 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: Super bowl, ever like sat down and. Watched so other than, 310 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: THAT i don't really have like a specific. 311 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: Team you mentioned earlier that you were too slow to 312 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: play wide. RECEIVER i wouldn't categorize you as slow coming 313 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: off the. Edge and then obviously what went viral was 314 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the thirty six yard punt return or fake. Punt have 315 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: you had a chance to talk with special teams Coordinator 316 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: Jeff rodgers about potentially being in the mix as far 317 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: as special teams and showing the ability to run and 318 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: actually break tackles as a running. 319 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: Back, Yeah i've been in there trying to learn the special. 320 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: Teams we haven't talked about any you, know fakes or anything, 321 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: running but you, Know i'm just trying to get the 322 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: play With. 323 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: Now you, are you, know not given expectations per, Se, 324 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: Right you're just trying to do your job and learn 325 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: the playbook and be prepared out on the. Field but 326 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: what have you gathered from pre draft conversations talking to 327 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: players who have been, here maybe what you have seen 328 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: from watching any bit of The cardinals that you have 329 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: of what the expectations are when playing For Jonathan. Gannon, 330 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: yeah LIKE i. 331 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: Said, earlier coming in every day and never feel like 332 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: you got. It just be able to learn and adapt 333 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: to what's going on throughout the. Day just be prepared 334 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: so when they call your name you get that opportunity 335 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: to step on the. Field just be, ready you, know 336 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: be able to do your. 337 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Job how much do you think you are? Ready, again 338 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about here In, may but season begins In. 339 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: September what are your own personal expectations for year? 340 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: One, yeah be able to do whatever they need me to. 341 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: Do rather that special team. Defense so when the coach 342 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: puts me out. There you, KNOW i know What i'm. 343 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: Doing just help the team. Out just be that. Guddess 344 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: go make a play on, defense make a play on special, 345 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: teams and just you, know when they need, me just 346 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: be able to do. 347 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: It hasn't been a lot of time with the, rookies 348 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: but as you guys are spending time together now the 349 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: last couple of, days any are you able to describe 350 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: any any general personalities or what the rookie class as 351 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: a whole might be. 352 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: Like not, really everybody, Really, yeah there has been pretty 353 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 4: quiet and trying to, learn like personality is about to come. 354 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Out so you need to get The Ohio state guys 355 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: to kind of separate from themselves and kind of you, 356 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: know they've been talking a little. 357 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: Bit everybody. 358 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: Will johnson's probably ready to help you separate. 359 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: Them i'm. 360 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah. 361 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: JORDAN a pleasure to have you here in, STUDIO a 362 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on the. Team look forward to 363 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: seeing what you can do on the football field real. 364 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: Soon, sure thank. 365 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: You AS i mentioned to, Him danny very anxious to 366 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: See Jordan birch on the field given just how one 367 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: third round, pick but his side and his his need 368 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: at that outside linebacker. Position, yeah you do have A Josh, 369 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: sweat you Resign Baron. Browning but, again an edge, rusher 370 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: a young edge. Rusher we'll have to wait and see 371 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: how healthy Bjo julari is when we see him on 372 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: the football. Field but As jordan, said, hey it's come, 373 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: in it's, wreckavoc it's get after the quarterback and whatever 374 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: the coaching staff wants us or wants me to. 375 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: Do six four two seventy. Nine and that's an interesting 376 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 3: position group to come in because there is some veteran presence, 377 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: there Right Josh, SWEAT i Mean Zavin collins has been 378 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: in that room for a couple of years. Now B 379 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: Joe julari expected to come back and be. Healthy he 380 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: still has the, opportunity Though birch, does to come in 381 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: and be a game changer and have a role in that. 382 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: Room so just because he's a rookie and there's you 383 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: know a handful of players above him in the depth 384 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: chart right, now there's still an opportunity for him to 385 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: come in and have a role as a, rookie especially 386 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 3: with a rotation that likes to be. Used Now i'm 387 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 3: curious the rotation with somebody like a sweat and is 388 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 3: it more so rotation opposite of. Him that's something that 389 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: is only going to come with time as we get 390 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: into training camp and maybe. Preseason probably won't play so 391 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 3: more so the start of the regular. Season but it's 392 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: an interesting spot For birch to be in because there's 393 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: plenty of veterans for him to learn, from which is 394 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: something he talked about wanting to do here in these 395 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: next couple. Weeks there's still the opportunity, though for him 396 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: to come in and make an. 397 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: IMPACT i think it's important because he's not going to 398 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: be thrust into the starting lineup if he earns his 399 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: way there, perfect but based off everyone else in that, 400 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: room he can come in and kind of gradually get 401 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: ready and then be that guy maybe on obvious passing 402 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: situation third and long and just come in as, okay right, 403 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: now my job is to beat the person in front of, 404 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: me get into the, backfield get after the, quarterback and 405 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: wreck havoc and then over, Time, yes you have to 406 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: be able to set the, edge you have to be 407 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: able to be good in the run, game maybe even drop, 408 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: back so you're not it's not a tell when a 409 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: certain player on the, Field oh, well we know he's 410 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: on the field because he's just gonna go get at the. 411 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: Quarterback, absolutely that's a great spot for rookie to be. 412 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: In you have the opportunity to come in and wreck the, 413 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: game and you also have the opportunity to not feel 414 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: that pressure and have enough veteran presence to learn. 415 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: From and it's important that all of these. Rookies and 416 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: we did see a little bit out on the field 417 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: again the brief period of time that we were out, 418 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: there but Both jordan And Cody simon were working With Jeff. 419 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: Rodgers it looked like it was more on field goal 420 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: protection as far as, again if you have a uniform 421 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: on game day and you want to be able to 422 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: be on the field offensively or. DEFENSIVELY a lot of 423 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: these players are going to learn special teams for the first. Time, 424 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: Now jordan does have, experience not as much as A Keaton, 425 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: crawford but probably more so than some of these players 426 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: coming from big school programs where you're too. Valuable we 427 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: can't waste. You we can't waste your reps on special 428 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: teams when you're such a dominant player on. 429 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 3: Defense that's part of the evaluation process is when you 430 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: just have the rookies out here try and get an early. 431 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: Feel what do you feel like they could be impactful 432 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: with on this, team and maybe that's something on special, 433 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 3: teams not a blanket. Statement if you can play everything 434 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: on special. Teams that's part of what this rookie mini 435 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: camp weekend is also. 436 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: About by the, way congratulations To. Jordan, Also Denzel, Burke Hayden, 437 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Connor Keaton crawford all have signed four year contracts their 438 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: first contracts in THE. Nfl so it's three players still 439 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: left to be left to be. Signed and it's not 440 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: like it was once upon a time where it was a, 441 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: long drag out. Process you're seeing this across the. League 442 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: once these rookies get in the, building before they step 443 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: on the, field even for rookie mini, caamp they are 444 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: signing on the line that is dotted and those, issues 445 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: if you, will or that extra step in order to 446 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: become a pro is done and taken care. Of SO 447 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: i would Expect Walter, Nolan Will, JOHNSON i would expect 448 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: that to get done sooner rather than, later maybe even 449 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: before the end of this. 450 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 3: Weekend it's not something to start questioning or getting up 451 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: in arms about and thinking there's some underlying issue going on. 452 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: There i'm right there with. 453 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: You speaking Of Will, johnson we heard from him On, 454 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: thursday and a much different Sounding Will johnson than the 455 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: last time everyone had a chance to hear from, him 456 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: and that was immediately after he was selected in the second. 457 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: Round and obviously the, disappointment the, frustration the, anger that 458 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: was not what we heard On. Thursday and, yes he acknowledged. 459 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: That it's, motivation but he's been able to move. On 460 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: he's in the building and now it's just about learning the, 461 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: playbook getting on the field and proving, Everyone, hey, YEAH 462 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: i should have been a first round. Pick without him 463 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: saying it. Anymore. 464 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: Great you know, what as A, dB you want to 465 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: have that trip on your, shoulder you want to have 466 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: that little extra. Swag, Great i'm all for. It i'm 467 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: not surprised he feels like he should have been a 468 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: first round. Pick that's where a lot of mock drafts had. 469 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: Him the reality is he wasn't. Right he ended up 470 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: here In, arizona and SO i like what his message, 471 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: was which was now That i'm, here and now That 472 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: i'm in the, building it's time to get to. Work 473 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: it's no longer time to think about WHERE i was, 474 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 3: drafted WHERE i felt LIKE i should have been. Drafted 475 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: these things all end up having a way where they 476 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: work out the way they are meant, to And Will 477 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: johnson has the, opportunity similar To Jordan, birch maybe even more, 478 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: so to come into a position room and really fight 479 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: for a big role on this. 480 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: DEFENSE i thought it was interesting he called this, scheme 481 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: this defense a cornerback's, dream and again looking at it 482 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: from his, perspective come in right away and whether you're 483 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: starting or not a rotation at, cornerback there's no reason 484 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: Why Will johnson can't be on that field week one, 485 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: again whether he's starting or, not but being able to 486 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: contribute right. 487 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: AWAY i agree with you. Wholeheartedly we saw that last 488 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: year With Max. Melton he wasn't, starting he was on 489 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: a bit of a rotation later on in the season 490 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: With Star thomas got a lot of good. Reps SO 491 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: i could absolutely see that be the pipeline For johnson as. 492 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: WELL i think it's going to be. COMPETITION i think 493 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: there's a chance That johnson is a starter week, one 494 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: has earned that. ROLE i think it's going to be great. 495 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: Competition though specifically with the younger players Of thomas And, 496 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: melton and. 497 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: Don't forget About Elijah, jones who again third round, pick 498 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: who we hardly saw last year. 499 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 3: Because really at all SEE i Mean hardley was. 500 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: Practice, field but it was very limited for a couple. 501 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Yet so but again again this we're seen now In 502 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: Moni's Austin ford's three, drafts the emphasis on the defensive, 503 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: back whether that's, cornerback with that's. Safety SO i think 504 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: you're going to get every, year regardless of who you 505 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: have in the, room you're going to look at adding 506 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: to that cornerback room in a specific type of cornerback 507 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: with some size six feet six, two two hundred pounds 508 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: somewhere in that, range but a physical, corner not one 509 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna shy away from contact and be in there 510 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: and make the. 511 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 4: Tackle. 512 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: Awesome fort said himself after the draft at a press, 513 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: conference you cannot have enough bodies in that cornerbacks. Room 514 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: they like competition. Everywhere they clearly really like. Competition they're 515 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: based on the moves they have made in previous. 516 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: Drafts well at disappointed we didn't get more of an 517 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: explanation or an answer From will about wearing number. 518 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: Zero not. 519 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: Surprise my guess is as he gets more, comfortable maybe 520 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: we hear. Him he did. Smile it wasn't like he 521 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: didn't like the. Question he knew it was, coming but 522 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: he basically was, LIKE i wanted a single, digit and 523 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: he just kind. 524 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 4: Of like left it. 525 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: THERE i, mean, yeah we can say what we're, beating you, 526 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: know around the bush about right, now which was And 527 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: i'm not saying this is true because he didn't confirm 528 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: it either, way but a lot lot of players like 529 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 3: the numbers zero and then when asked about, it they 530 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: come out and, say that's how many Touchdowns i'm expecting 531 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: to allow this. Year if the roles were reversed and 532 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: he'd come in as a rookie and he had answered that, 533 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 3: question we probably would have been, thinking that's a pretty 534 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: big goal to have as a rookie when you haven't 535 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: step foot on the. Field Right it's, like either way 536 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: we'd be talking about. It SO i really don't have a. 537 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 3: PROBLEM i think it was actually probably the smart thing 538 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: for him to kind of leave it at. That, again 539 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: that might not be his reason for picking, zero but 540 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: if you're going to kind of look around the league 541 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: at what other dbs have, said about picking that. Number 542 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 3: that is typically where the conversation. 543 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: Lands let's just say when you wear that, number or 544 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: you're assigned or you asked, for it does bring. Attention 545 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: there is now a spotlights on. You but again limited 546 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: interaction With. Will it doesn't seem like that's going to 547 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: face him one. BIT i, mean he played in Ann, 548 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: arbor The Big, house one hundred thousand plus Every, saturday 549 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: so he'll be just. Fine i'm very anxious to see 550 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: him on the. 551 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 3: FOOTBALL i think that number is going to real good 552 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: on a jersey to on A. dB. 553 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: Yes the other player that we heard from On, Thursday Cody, 554 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: simon AND i really like his mindset and, yeah you're 555 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: a fourth round. Pick didn't sound like a fourth round. 556 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Picks sounded like someone who is ready to be A 557 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: day one, starter which again a steep, hill As Jonathan 558 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: gannon mentioned On, friday for all of these rookies to 559 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: come in and. Contribute but the fact that he has 560 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: experience as the quarterback of the defense with that in 561 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: helmet communication which was a first for college programs a year, 562 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: ago and someone that if he can learn the, PLAYBOOK 563 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: i think right next To Mac wilson, SENIOR i think 564 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: that's a great combination in the middle of that, defense 565 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: and we'll, see however many defensive linemen and edge rushers 566 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: we see on the field with those. 567 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: Two it was interesting When gannon was asked about That 568 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: friday before, practice he made it seem like he doesn't 569 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: really think it's much of an advantage at. All maybe 570 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: a little because it's one year of, experience but you 571 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: have to think like it's a whole different ballgame out 572 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: here in the pros and the scheme and what's going 573 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: to be calling and the play calls, themselves and the 574 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: voice in his head and trying to keep up with 575 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: the speed of the game and doing everything that his 576 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: coaches are asking of. Him and then you're adding on 577 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: having this green dot and calling the. Defense it's. PLAUSIBLE 578 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 3: i think there's a very good reason why this team 579 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: drafted a middle linebacker who has at least some experience 580 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: calling the, defense because that has Been Kaiser white the 581 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: last two, years who remains a free agent and where 582 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 3: things stand right, now doesn't necessarily seem like he's going 583 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: to re sign with The. Cardinals it's still going to 584 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: be a. Competition The cardinals brought in a Keen Davis 585 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: gaither in the, offseason so that could be someone. THERE 586 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: i don't necessarily think it's going to Be Mac Wilson. 587 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: SENIOR i think they're going to like to keep him 588 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: as the will, linebacker have him rush off the edge 589 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: of a few times during a, game which he also really. 590 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: Likes but that's definitely something to keep an eye on 591 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: as we end closer to training. Camp and that's a 592 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: question is who's going to call the? Defense Is Cody 593 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 3: simon somebody who is able to pick up the playbook 594 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: and everything that comes along with adjusting to the speed 595 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: of the game to the point where as a Rookie 596 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: week one he could handle that. 597 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: Responsibility we've learned in training camp that there are several 598 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: players that use that in helmet communication to make, Sure, 599 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: okay someone gets, hurt you got to be able to step. 600 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: In so a number of different players will have that 601 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: during training. Camp but to your, point, yeah do we 602 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: See cody really grasp that role and handle, it getting 603 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: the guys in front of, him the guys behind him 604 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: where they need to, be and not only, that but 605 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: do it in a fashion that is again quick and 606 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: you're not stuttering and you're not wasting even a half, 607 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: second but you get that call to everyone else a 608 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: drop of a, dime and all of a, sudden you're 609 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: ready well before the snap of the. 610 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: Football maybe maybe that's an intangible of having the green 611 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: dot is having all off, season of getting that, confidence 612 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: of having the confidence that he has had this last 613 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: year At Ohio state to call the, defense to recite 614 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 3: the play call and say it with confidence and make 615 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: sure everybody is in the right. Position maybe that's something 616 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: that can carry over more so than just the logistical 617 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: aspect of. 618 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: It anything else. Standouts, again we were out on the 619 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: football field for about twenty. Minutes it has been a 620 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: little while since we were on the football, field so 621 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: it is kind of nice to be outside knock on 622 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: wood outside when the weather is still normal triple, digits 623 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: which is going to be rather, soon and then there's 624 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: another break and then it'll be consistently one hundred and 625 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: five hundred and ten for the duration of the. Summer 626 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: so we. 627 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: Find ourselves At State Farm stadium during. 628 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: Training came with the. 629 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: Roof. 630 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah by the, WAY jg when he walked in basically 631 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: gave a synopsis of the next several months and the 632 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: way he talked, about, yeah you, know four weeks and 633 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: then After Memorial, day you, know ota, start and then 634 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: five weeks and then where's training? Camp and then on 635 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: the season. BEGINS i was, like, Whoa we're not even 636 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: in the middle Of may yet. 637 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: You blink and it's. 638 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: There that's kind of like The National Football. 639 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: League how goes? 640 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: All? 641 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: Right, well we can reconvene after the. Weekend got any big. 642 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: Plans nothing. Crazy relax that's the. 643 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Goal stay, cool that's an even Bigger it is good 644 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: to have players back in the building next, week rookies 645 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: and veterans on the field. Together Still phase. Two phase, 646 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: three which is oca's doesn't begin until After Memorial, day 647 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: but next week and the couple of weeks Before Memorial day, 648 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: weekend that's when you kind of get everyone. Together and 649 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: that's when well rookies get treated just like everyone, else 650 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: but they get the spotlight onto. Themselves here this weekend 651 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: with the building is theirs and theirs. Alone on that, 652 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: note we will put a lid on this edition Of 653 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two presented By hyundai probably partner of The Arizona. 654 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals as, always special thanks to our executive Producer Jim 655 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Mama Hundre our associate Producer Cody fincher For Danny, Surek 656 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm craig Real. Lou we'll talk to you next time 657 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: here On Cardinals cover. 658 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 4: Two