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Speaker 4: Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm ready.

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Speaker 4: So this work week started with the first of the month.

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Speaker 4: it be said? Let it be said that virtually every

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Speaker 6: Be April Fools all over.

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Speaker 4: Again, every single day until someone turns in their card.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, based on the historic accuracy a

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Speaker 1: It's really incredible, PAULI this time of year right now,

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Speaker 4: Believe this. We're gonna have the defensive line coach of

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Speaker 4: everything that he saw at the scouting combine. Oh, he

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Speaker 1: So and we'll also get to talk to him about

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Speaker 4: In the offseason, free agency was kind to the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Was it not? Now what's coming in the NFL Draft?

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Speaker 1: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Paulie, never

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Speaker 4: I think another team will make Moni's mind up for them.

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Speaker 1: PAULI, I think you're right on this, And it's taken

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Speaker 4: There are just too many teams in need of that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about kool Aid McKinstry poll, Wait, where are

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Speaker 1: Do you see him climbing up these mock drafts, Barton R.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say it, you did?

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Speaker 7: So I get a call from Justin and he's like,

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Speaker 7: I'm in the school with my daughter, trying to keep

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Speaker 7: Literally, as soon as I walked out the student guy

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Speaker 4: It's almost like the football guys spoke that into existence.

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks for having me, so coach. When you think

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Speaker 10: Well, look, I know they both love each other, but

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Speaker 6: But uh, you know, both those guys bring something to

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Speaker 6: They're both physical guys, They've both got.

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Speaker 10: You know, obviously the room's gotten better with with some

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Speaker 1: And would you imagine that both those guys will play

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Speaker 10: I think, you know, uh, listening to JG and talking

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Speaker 6: Where we harp on being.

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Speaker 10: So to lock a guy in at zero or three

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Speaker 4: It was kind of unfair how many injuries you suffered

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Speaker 4: So just tell us about last season and what it

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Speaker 4: So how much of physicality is mentality? And that's almost

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Speaker 7: I want us to be known as a very physical

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Speaker 9: You gotta be a me and that's ob that's what

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Speaker 1: You know, once again to it, just as a former

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Speaker 1: Which is great, man.

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Speaker 10: And I'm excited about doing things differently. You know, you

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Speaker 1: One of the things I love, coach is you guys

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we have solid fronts. We have you know, when

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Speaker 10: what you consider the bear front? Yes, you know that

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Speaker 6: Upfront and and it's you against me.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love that. Man. This is a this

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Speaker 4: and the gred Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert

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Speaker 4: So more than two decades coaching at the college level,

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Speaker 4: What translates into college D linemen to the NFL, especially

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 10: There's a lot of good looking, pretty ones out there

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Speaker 10: that's willing to bite and put his face in it

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Speaker 10: and be physical, that's number one. You can't play the

438
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Speaker 10: position if you're not tough and physical, you know. But

439
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Speaker 10: going into this draft, man, it's what we're looking for.

440
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Speaker 10: We're looking for guys like those guys that describe themselves

441
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Speaker 10: as the mentality of being physical and being a bad

442
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Speaker 10: SOB or whatever else they use. But that's the mentality

443
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Speaker 10: without saying those words, that's the mentality that we're looking for.

444
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Speaker 1: So blow Nichols, of course, I love him. Justin Jones

445
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Speaker 1: as well. I thought those were two very underrated signings

446
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 1: in the off season for the Arizona Cardinals. Two guys

447
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Speaker 1: that are going to come in and help you guys

448
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Speaker 1: be a lot more stout against the run. Another guy

449
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Speaker 1: is LJ. Collier That to me is very He's got

450
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Speaker 1: a lot of upside to him. I think just watching him,

451
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Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to stay on the field. He's

452
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Speaker 1: had some issues with that. What are your thoughts on LJ.

453
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Speaker 1: Collier and where you see him fitting in?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I tried to get real personal.

455
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Speaker 10: With LJ coming in and even now, even after the

456
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Speaker 10: injury and before we left for the off season. He's

457
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Speaker 10: the one guy in the room has got the skill

458
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Speaker 10: set to do it all. We just got to put

459
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Speaker 10: that on the field, right So, I mean, the guy

460
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Speaker 10: is very talented, very athletic. I got to do a

461
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Speaker 10: good job as a coach to help get that done physically,

462
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Speaker 10: you know, and and a lot of D line players

463
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Speaker 10: mental too, Like you know those guys they put pressure

464
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Speaker 10: on themselves and someone sometimes you have a little.

465
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Speaker 1: Bit of.

466
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Speaker 10: Paralysis by overthinking, right, So we can just get him

467
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Speaker 10: to just buy into what we're doing and take the

468
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Speaker 10: coaching and just go out there and let it loose.

469
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Speaker 10: I think you're going to see a good football player

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Speaker 10: with us, do.

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Speaker 1: You you know?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 1: Are you? A hard?

474
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Speaker 10: Coach would say, I'm a I'm a demanding coach, and

475
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Speaker 10: I'm a demanding coach. I'm demanding, but not the meaning.

476
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Speaker 10: It's kind of always been my approach. I'm like we

477
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Speaker 10: talked about, I'm from South Louisiana, so we kind of

478
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Speaker 10: laid back. We have a good time, right, and I

479
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Speaker 10: get on you and mow for you all day kind

480
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Speaker 10: of coach.

481
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Speaker 1: No, definitely not.

482
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Speaker 10: But there's nothing wrong with saying, hey, do that again,

483
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Speaker 10: come back and do it again. There's nothing wrong with that.

484
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Speaker 10: So we're dealing with adults here. So my approach is

485
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Speaker 10: all has been to be demanding and get what's right

486
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Speaker 10: without being demeaning and discouraging.

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Speaker 4: Derek leblan Is our guests. You hail from Brobridge, Louisiana.

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Speaker 4: Somewhere between Lafayette and Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 10: Correct, yes, yes, okay, I'll have to say those towns

490
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Speaker 10: are closer to us.

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Speaker 4: If I'm seeing this right. Here are jim A Mahundro

492
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Speaker 4: doing some great research the crawfish capital of the world. So, coach,

493
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Speaker 4: how do you like your crawfish.

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Speaker 6: Hot and spicy? It's hot and spicy, man, that is

495
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Speaker 6: great right now.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Cajun food is my absolute favorite. Do

497
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Speaker 1: you call it Cajun yourself? You know what?

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Speaker 10: I never heard it called Cajun food in our area.

499
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Speaker 10: It's always Cajun food everywhere else, right, So what do

500
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Speaker 10: you call it?

501
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Speaker 1: Just what? We're just dinner where we are.

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Speaker 6: That could be breakfast too, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I so, uh, do you ever have the d line

504
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Speaker 4: over for sort of a positioned dinner? You know, and

505
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Speaker 4: you cook up big at the big vats of crawfish going?

506
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Speaker 4: And how much how much crawfish would you have to

507
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Speaker 4: cook for a D line dinner?

508
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Speaker 10: You know, it's it's it's it's not for everybody, man.

509
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Speaker 10: You know a lot of guys tried at first. Can

510
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Speaker 10: I say cold beer? There's a lot of cold beer

511
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Speaker 10: that comes to crawlfish man. So, you know, having these

512
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Speaker 10: guys who are adults now different from college ball, but

513
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Speaker 10: haven't had them over to the house yet, but would

514
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Speaker 10: love to, especially with this new group that's going second

515
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Speaker 10: year in. But if we can get some crawl fish

516
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Speaker 10: and some cold beer, man, I think we'll.

517
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Speaker 1: Be all right. Okay, but I have to ask you

518
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Speaker 1: this gumbo or or Jumbalaya or at the Fey.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you're lucky, you probably can get them

520
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Speaker 6: all in one city.

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Speaker 1: That's the party, that's right right.

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Speaker 4: So Jake delomhails from Brobridge, Louisiana. He was never the

523
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Speaker 4: same after the Cardinals picked him off five times in

524
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Speaker 4: that two thousand and eight playoff game. Branford mersalas Wow,

525
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Speaker 4: jazz musicians.

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Speaker 6: Jazz musician.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's just.

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Speaker 4: Big time right there. I'm a leader of the Tonight

529
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Speaker 4: show man.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And then you have a whole bunch of stops, including

532
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Speaker 4: early in your career Henderson State, the alma mater of

533
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Speaker 4: Roy Green, the all time.

534
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Speaker 1: Great receiver correct front nack.

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Speaker 4: That is an amazing connection right there. So coach, we

536
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Speaker 4: enjoyed it. I know you're looking forward to the rest

537
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Speaker 4: of this offseason and getting some draft picks in here,

538
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Speaker 4: aren't you.

539
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Speaker 10: Yeah, looking forward to and looking forward to moving on

540
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Speaker 10: to the next season and improving his team and getting

541
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Speaker 10: some w's underw built me. I'm excited about it. Thank

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Speaker 10: you for your time, coach, really appreciate it. Absolutely, Thanks

543
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Speaker 10: a lot.

544
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Speaker 4: And you know what, your work with Dante still's made

545
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Speaker 4: Wolf proud because he's a proud West Virginia Mountaineers.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me started. It's West Virginia, y'all. That's West Virgail.

547
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Speaker 4: Okay, So there you go. Okay, we'll see. We'll see

548
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Speaker 4: if you're going to get a guy in the first round,

549
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Speaker 4: maybe atop the second. We'll see what's coming the Cardinals

550
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: of eleven picks in this draft and maybe some more

551
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Speaker 4: rookie additions to the Cardinals d line room will continue

552
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Speaker 4: with a big red rage presented by santan Ford and

553
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Speaker 4: Gilbert we are. Santan Ford.

554
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Speaker 2: Lops it nearside and adjusting to make the ketches Dorch

555
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Speaker 2: hot and the forty by Dorton turns right, snip bombing

556
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Speaker 2: forty five and pass mit Bielskill going. It's a game

557
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Speaker 2: of thirty one spinning away from a defender breaks at

558
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Speaker 2: tackle near side forty thirty five thirty cut the back

559
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Speaker 2: of the right, cut the twenty five and tackled in

560
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Speaker 2: the twenty one. Won a great return by Greig dort.

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Speaker 9: Reg Dorch got whacked and kept one and won a

562
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Speaker 9: huge play by.

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Speaker 2: Bret dort Shit a diving catches made by Doors, burst down.

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Speaker 2: Great catch.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that is full extension by Greg Doors

566
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Speaker 1: right there on the out route.

567
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Speaker 2: Great catch caught again Doors broken tackle thirty right side,

568
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Speaker 2: twenty cut back to the left of the ten. Another

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Speaker 2: broken tackle.

570
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Speaker 1: Breaks the tackle, breaks another tackle, and then another.

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Speaker 4: Tackle twenty five to twenty angles outside the numbers of

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Speaker 4: the ten.

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Speaker 6: Five dives into the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Bret Dorch. Dorch is on fire.

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Speaker 2: You just got Dorch.

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Speaker 4: That was from Chicago, that last one right there. So

578
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Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley had zoom out. On the career of Greg

579
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Speaker 4: Dortch's first three years in the NFL, five different teams,

580
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Speaker 4: cut six different times, played a total of seven games.

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Speaker 4: Is first three years, last two years of the airson

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Speaker 4: A Cardinals twenty twenty two to twenty three, thirty two games,

583
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Speaker 4: eight starts, over eighteen hundred all purpose yards and over

584
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Speaker 4: the last two years just receiving, he's had seventy six grabs,

585
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Speaker 4: nearly eight hundred yards and four touchdowns. So once again,

586
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Speaker 4: when you exist on the edge of a roster, you

587
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Speaker 4: play with an edge, and that is Greg Dorge And

588
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Speaker 4: that brings us back here to the Big Red Rage

589
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Kelvic Ron Wolfley Special.

590
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 4: Thanks again to Derek LeBlanc, the Cardinals d line coach.

591
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Speaker 4: I loved your question, do you coach hard? And I

592
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: loved his answer demanding yes, I'm not demeaning yes. And

593
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Speaker 4: Greg Dorch is one of those guys, one of those

594
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Speaker 4: type of players who respond well to that, and now

595
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Speaker 4: he's got a pretty prominent role as it stands in

596
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals receiver room.

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Speaker 1: Football player. That's what I think of BALI when I

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Speaker 1: think of Greg Dortch, I think of a football player,

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Speaker 1: not just a guy that is gonna be a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: not just a guy who's gonna line up as a

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Speaker 1: number three receiver in the slot, not just a punt returner.

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Speaker 1: I think of him first and foremost as a football player,

603
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Speaker 1: through and through it. The guy's got a heart of

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Speaker 1: a dog. He has got a heart of a dog,

605
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Speaker 1: like if he was playing along the line of scrimmage

606
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Speaker 1: somewhere offensive lineman, defensive lineman, maybe even a full back,

607
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Speaker 1: a full fledged dog. And yet he happens to have

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Speaker 1: some skills and some abilities. Right now, I love this

609
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Speaker 1: signing by Manti assin Fort in the Arizona Cardinals because

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Speaker 1: once again, this is a guy you're gonna win with.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna go out maybe and win you games,

612
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Speaker 1: but you're not gonna get beat with Greg Dorch.

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Speaker 4: He's been on the show. He's looked us both in

614
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Speaker 4: the eye and said, put me in a phone booth.

615
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Speaker 4: I'll make you miss. He has supreme confidence he does

616
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Speaker 4: in his game and he gills.

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Speaker 1: He's that way too. You can see it.

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Speaker 4: He's just been waiting for his chance, his opportunity, and

619
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Speaker 4: guess what many Austin Ford gave it to him, along

620
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Speaker 4: with Jonathan Gannon and Greg Dorch. He took advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: Here's the GM.

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Speaker 12: Greg's made a lot of plays before I got here.

623
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Speaker 12: Greg made a lot of plays when he got his opportunities.

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Speaker 12: So Greg's a guy who's always ready to take advantage

625
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Speaker 12: of whatever opportunity he gets. And when when he's taking

626
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Speaker 12: advantage of those opportunities. Here's more opportunities. So you know,

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Speaker 12: Greg does a great job for us. Greg's tough, I mean,

628
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Speaker 12: he's physical after the catch for a smaller guy. He

629
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Speaker 12: took a step as a punt returner last year. So

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Speaker 12: you know, Greg made a lot of plays for us,

631
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Speaker 12: and he's gonna make a lot of plays for us

632
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Speaker 12: next year.

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Speaker 4: And essentially he beat out Rondale Moore. Rondale Moore, Yeah,

634
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: traded to Atlanta. And now guess what Greg Dorch based

635
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: on his Instagram account, is taking over the number four

636
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Speaker 4: from Rondale after he was traded for Desmond Rider.

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Speaker 1: That's really interesting right there to see that the number

638
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: of the world Pauly. But don't get me sidetracked on that.

639
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Speaker 1: Once again, I love him, especially as a punt reach

640
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Speaker 1: It's so important you have a guy with a dog mentality.

641
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Speaker 1: You have a guy that you can put back there

642
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: as a punt returner who is not afraid above all else.

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Speaker 1: That is the number one thing that you've got to

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Speaker 1: have from your punt returner, fearlessness.

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Speaker 4: And he's five to seven, maybe one seventy five. I

646
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Speaker 4: can't tell you how many times on the sideline. You

647
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Speaker 4: see him get hit, he gets launched into the air.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's like a projectile, he's a pinball.

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Speaker 1: He'll get up and do it again. But he does

650
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Speaker 1: every time, get up and do it again.

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Speaker 4: So now contrast that with big Michael Wilson, who's about

652
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Speaker 4: as physical as they come, especially for a rookie last year, right,

653
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Speaker 4: and Kyler Murray will get into Michael Wilson because he's

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Speaker 4: gonna have a prominent role this year just like he

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Speaker 4: ended last year. Here's this quarterback on what the rookie

656
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Speaker 4: third rounder out of Stanford showed Kyler Murray.

657
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Speaker 11: I told you all from day one. You know, I

658
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 11: watched his Senior Bowl highlights, height, whatever it was, you know,

659
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Speaker 11: a couple of clips from just on Twitter, and I

660
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 11: was like, yeah, the kid knows, you know, he knows

661
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Speaker 11: what he's doing. I could tell now we'll get a

662
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Speaker 11: full off. He's on our bilt. You know, I think

663
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Speaker 11: next year, you know, Michael have a big year.

664
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Speaker 4: And we saw week four. We saw it at the

665
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers when he had that big game, and

666
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Speaker 4: the best part about it to me was that he

667
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 4: used his size to his advantage. Like Derek Lebron said,

668
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: earlier on the show. There are big guys don't necessarily

669
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Speaker 4: play that way, but Michael Wilson made a lot of

670
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: contested catches last year. Yeah, and well, if you know

671
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: better than anyone, you better make those contested catches because

672
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: that's ninety percent of life in the NFL.

673
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Speaker 1: As a received surely is paully, especially when you have

674
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Speaker 1: the size that he has. I mean, I'm talking about

675
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Speaker 1: a big wide receiver out there once again. And you know,

676
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: when you're big like that, rarely are you going to

677
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Speaker 1: make guys miss. And when I say that, I'm talking

678
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: about you running your route against coverage and guys just

679
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: guess wrong or their technique is bad, whatever it may be,

680
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: you're going to actually be covered when you're the size

681
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: of a Michael Wilson. But that's okay. Larry Fitzgerald did

682
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: it for his entire career. For the most part, fitz

683
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Speaker 1: was a big, strong receiver who may a lot of

684
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Speaker 1: contested catches. The thing that separated him from everybody else

685
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: worked just how good his hands truly.

686
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Speaker 4: Were, no doubt, and he played his best in the

687
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Speaker 4: biggest moments. Yes, and we saw some of that from

688
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson last year. Philadelphia. He had the big game

689
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: winning to our game tying touchdown catch in Philadelphia. That

690
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: was after he took the blame the responsibility for the

691
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: pick six the ninety nine yard interception return, where apparently

692
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: it was a mental mistake on his behalf as a rookie.

693
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: In fact, he was way beyond even culpable and accountable

694
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Speaker 4: for that. Here's Michael Wilson last year talking about just

695
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Speaker 4: how he views playing with a two time Pro bowler

696
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Speaker 4: in Kyler Murray.

697
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: I feel extremely responsible to play at a high level

698
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: for him because I'm playing for his legacy right being

699
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 5: a Heisman Trophy winner, being number one pig, being franchise quarterback.

700
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 5: He signed a big contract, He's got a lot of responsibility,

701
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 5: and I want to make sure I'm playing at a

702
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 5: high level to play a positive role in his story.

703
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Speaker 4: So now you look at the wide receiver room. It's

704
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: currently constructed, and I know, Wolf, you're daydreaming, you're smiling,

705
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: You're thinking of Greg Dortsch, Michael Wilson added, alongside oh

706
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Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am, I'm thinking of it right now, Paully.

708
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Speaker 1: And by the way, can I also say this, I

709
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: think I think I would be okay. I am in

710
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: the danger zone when it comes to Marvin Harrison Junior.

711
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Speaker 1: I do covet him. I do want him. He is

712
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: my precious so to speak. But having said that, Paul

713
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: Roma Dunza is also a guy that man, he reminds

714
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: me so much of Larry Fitzgerald. He does. And I

715
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: know this has been a comp that has been out

716
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: there for Roma Doonzay. But he's a football player, just

717
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: like Larry was a football player. He is a football

718
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: player through and through. And man, I think there's a

719
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Speaker 1: real possibility. And I know, Paul, this has been your

720
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: belief for a long time now. The Cardinals are going

721
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: to get that opportunity to move down. And if they

722
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Speaker 1: moved down, I do not believe that Marvin Harrison Junior

723
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Speaker 1: is going to be there when they draft, wherever that

724
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Speaker 1: may be, even if it's number six, I don't know

725
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: if he's going to be there. I don't know if

726
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: he's going to fly by the I don't think so

727
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: at number five. So to me, once again, I think

728
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: I'd be okay with Roma Dunza in a big way.

729
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors honestly just haven't seen enough of him.

730
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: I'm probably in the same camp, and I don't think

731
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna any of those guys unless you trade with

732
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 4: the Giants at number six. Otherwise those guys are all

733
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: going to be long gone. I think, well, we'll see.

734
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Speaker 4: Here's the other thing I throw out there, number one.

735
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 4: Do you think this decision group, meaning the GM and

736
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 4: the head coach value receiver the position itself as high

737
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Speaker 4: as number four, Because here's a quick list.

738
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the coaching staff does as much

739
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: as I do, believe Manti Ausen for it might that's

740
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: just a guess.

741
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 4: In the last decade, here's the list of wide receivers

742
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: taking in the top seven picks. Okay, okay, Sammy Watkins,

743
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 4: Mike Evans, Yeah, Amari Cooper, Kevin White, Corey Davis, Mike

744
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: Williams often injured, Jamar Chase. That's a ding. Jalen Waddle

745
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: went six overall. So look, are these guys once in

746
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 4: a decade group of receivers taken together.

747
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: Maybe?

748
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: Maybe, But once again, it's all about the quarterback. It's

749
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: all about protecting that quarterback, and for a team that

750
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: values both so much and had a top five run

751
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: game last year when you're in such dire need of

752
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: an edge, a corner. You know, I just wonder where

753
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 4: receiver falls into the Mexican.

754
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Speaker 1: For me right now, Paul, if you're talking about what's

755
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: the most important position on this team, it's a wide receiver.

756
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: It is a wide receiver. And the reason why I

757
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: say that is because you've got a franchise quarterback that

758
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: needs options. He needs a true wide receiver, one to

759
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: throw the ball to. It's got to be a wide receiver.

760
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: If you're really looking at Kyler Murray and saying, and

761
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: I believe this is just me, this is my own

762
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: this is my own thought right here, this is the

763
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: way I see Kyler Murray. I still believe Kyler Murray's

764
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: entering a proven year. I still believe it's going to

765
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: be a situation where they're going to give him every

766
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: every resource. He's going to need to go out and

767
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: do it. But Kyler has got to go out and

768
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: prove over the course of this year, of course, that

769
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: everything we saw in the last four games in particular

770
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: from last year is going to apply. It's going to

771
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: carry over this year and then even grow even more. Well,

772
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Speaker 1: you know what, to be fair to Kyler Murray. He

773
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Speaker 1: needs options as well. You want to help Kyler Murray.

774
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: You want to help protect Kyler Murray and give him

775
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: every opportunity to show you he is all that in

776
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: a bag of chips. You need to give him options.

777
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: You need to protect him up front, and you need

778
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: to give him options in which you can get the

779
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: ball out quickly because guess what that does. That protects

780
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: him as well, getting the ball out quickly because you've

781
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: got wide receiver who are winning their routes.

782
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Speaker 4: It's important you want to mind blow. There are a

783
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: number of mock drafts out there who project and predict

784
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: the money. Austin Fort will do exactly what you did

785
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: last year. This year, we'll trade out with Minnesota, take

786
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: eleven and twenty three, then take eleven and twenty seven,

787
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 4: which the Cardinals currently own, and go back up to

788
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: five and get Marvin Harrison Junior. And then at twenty three,

789
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: because they've up that second round first round pick from

790
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: twenty seven to twenty three, they get the edge either

791
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: Jared burse Chop Robinson.

792
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: Sold too well. I don't know where you sold that

793
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: for a publick, but I'm all on board with that.

794
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: And then a top round two. You take the corner

795
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: because there are a half dozen corners who are considered starters.

796
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Speaker 4: So very interesting.

797
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: We'll come back.

798
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 4: We'll talk more about this draft. We hear from Jonathan

799
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: Ganna as we continue with a big red rage presented

800
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

801
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: Jake the Snake Plummer.

802
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: The buzz was that we had a hometown kid that

803
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: was a playmaker.

804
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: Touchdown sundddles, what the snake does.

805
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 7: It again for?

806
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 5: Then they'd be able to get Jake was absolutely a miracle.

807
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: He was an immediate icon for a squad.

808
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 10: When we felt like we needed a spark, and that's

809
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 10: what Jake could do.

810
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 9: He could give you a spark.

811
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: He scores Jake Clumber cocky, but cocky with confidence.

812
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 6: He knew his abilities and what we could do.

813
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 12: That was an incredible pass by Jake Plummer. He basically

814
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 12: would say what he was going to do when he

815
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 12: went out and did it.

816
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: Jake the Snake from Arizona State to the Arizona Cardinals.

817
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: This is Jake the Snake, This is our guy. We

818
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: already have the jerseys.

819
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Speaker 4: Flutter's on the Tan.

820
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Clutter throws at the end zone to.

821
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: A wide open Larry Siners.

822
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: He's got it, he scores.

823
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Speaker 12: I remember him being vocal in the press, like draft

824
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 12: this kid, he should be a Cardinal.

825
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: So that made me feel good because.

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Speaker 12: My whole dream from being a child was to play

827
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Speaker 12: in the NFL. Did as much as I could to

828
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Speaker 12: try to lobby for him to become a part of

829
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Speaker 12: our team, and it worked out for us.

830
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: And you know, the rest is history.

831
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: It's your former teammate, Larry Center's right there, Cardinals folk

832
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: Tales drafting Jake. That was circa nineteen ninety seven when

833
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: that happened. Round two. Recently, we did a documentary on it.

834
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: You can find it wherever you get your favorite podcast,

835
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 4: right and it's good stuff. A lot of guys talking

836
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 4: about Jake the Snake, and I'm old enough. Ron Wolfley,

837
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: who have covered his Arizona State team, was at the

838
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: rose Ball, was there and he got drafted two years

839
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 4: after that nineteen ninety eight the playoff win at Dallas.

840
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: So those were some exciting years and you were right

841
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: there as well.

842
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, man, Jake the Snakes. There

843
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: ever been a quarterback more aptly named.

844
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Speaker 4: And you know what, here's a true quick story twenty

845
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: nineteen draft him on stage of the draft party, which

846
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 4: is happening again this year, and I'm talking about the

847
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: prospects of drafting Kyler Murray number one overall, okay, and

848
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: I'm calling him the future of football. Jake grabbed the

849
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: microphone from me. He was on stage along with Frank

850
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 4: Sanders and yours truly. He said, what do you mean

851
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 4: I was the future of football? I used to run around.

852
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: That's what they called me, the sluts, right, No, I

853
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 4: know that was he was slippery. Yes, so that's great stuff,

854
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 4: all right. Now, speaking a quarterback, Hmmm, do you find interesting,

855
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: Ron Wolfly, that, at, for example, that Drake may Pro Day,

856
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: you got big contingents from the Minnesota Vikings, the Denver Broncos,

857
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: the New York Giants. At the Michael Pennox Pro Day,

858
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 4: the Giants went all the way to Seattle, the head coach,

859
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: the GM, the OC. These are teams outside the top five,

860
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley.

861
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's no doubt about it, Paul. But once again,

862
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: these are teams that we all expect to move off

863
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: at some point in time. I think it's a real

864
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: possibility based on what the Arizona Cardinals are going to

865
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Speaker 1: do at number four, that we have four consecutive quarterbacks

866
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: go at the top of this draft. I totally could

867
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: see that. Here's the thing I'm hoping for the most,

868
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: that Jaden Daniels is the fourth and the reason why

869
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying you could he possibly be the fourth He

870
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: reminds me so much of Randall Cunningham. He is long,

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Speaker 1: and he is whippy, and he's a really good athlete

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Speaker 1: and a really good runner of the football as well,

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Speaker 1: and yet he can throw the ball. Jaden Daniels is

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Speaker 1: kind of that bright, shiny object that I think if

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Speaker 1: you were going to move up to number four because

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Speaker 1: you fell in love with Jayden Daniels, because a team

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Speaker 1: was out there and believed he really would have been

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Speaker 1: the second quarterback on their board, they would have gone

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Speaker 1: up and tried to get him at number two if

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Speaker 1: they could. But there he is at number four. Man

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Speaker 1: that could bring the Arizona Cardinals a heap on draft Day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he also had a great offensive line in LSU

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Speaker 4: in two first round receivers Jaydan Daniels, But yeah, he's

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Speaker 4: going in the top four. You gotta figure in fact,

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Speaker 4: you talk about the Broncos and Sean Payton at the

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Speaker 4: NFL Owners meeting was asked about, Okay, is it realistic

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Speaker 4: to move up? And he said yes, absolutely, and that's

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Speaker 4: when it came up the hole it's good to be

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Speaker 4: money comment. In fact, Jonathan Gannon was asked about that.

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Speaker 8: And it is good to be money right now. He's

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Speaker 8: in season, so I leave him alone a little bit,

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Speaker 8: and this is like his baby, so I say, hey.

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Speaker 6: You just do your thing, man, you just do your thing.

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Speaker 6: We feel good about.

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Speaker 8: It, and obviously we talk, you know, every day. But

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Speaker 8: I'm excited about where we're at and what we need

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Speaker 8: to add and the.

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Speaker 1: Plan to do that.

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Speaker 4: And the Cardinals All access video from last year in

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Speaker 4: the War Room is making the rounds again has over

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00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: two million views. Many Assin fort let money cook and

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Speaker 4: the way he had multiple teams on the line, as

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Speaker 4: Michael Bidwell said after that draft, it's like he had

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Speaker 4: spinning plates going right all these teams.

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Speaker 1: JG was all jacked up.

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Speaker 4: I think the same thing's gonna happen this year. He's

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Speaker 4: gonna have multiple teams until the Cardinals are on the

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Speaker 4: clock and then somebody's gonna make their final best offer

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Speaker 4: and then boom, He's gonna pull the trick.

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Speaker 1: And PAULI, that is what I expect as well, a

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Speaker 1: huge draft day trade. And again I'm thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you'd love to actually be able to play it that

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Speaker 1: way if you're the Cardinals. I'm sure whatever team wants

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Speaker 1: to move up to number four wouldn't like to bring

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Speaker 1: it down to a draft day trade because of just

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Speaker 1: how much they'd have to give up in order to

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Speaker 1: move up. They probably want to establish the fact that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get one of these guys. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks. Maybe though, it's like I said,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a preference that a team might have on

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Speaker 1: one of those three quarterbacks that are gonna go after

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Maybe they're falling in love with Drake May

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Speaker 1: and maybe all of a sudden on Draft Day they're

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Speaker 1: gonna wait and see it if Drake May is actually there,

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Speaker 1: if he falls to number four, maybe they're like, we

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Speaker 1: we have to do this, not right, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: all beauty is in the eye of the beholder ball.

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Speaker 4: You know, the team in that scenario. There's been a

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Speaker 4: lot talked about Brian Dable and who did he have

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo as the OC Josh Allen, big old Drake

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Speaker 4: May might not be as accurate as some of the

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Speaker 4: other guys, just like Josh Allen had Josh and he

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Speaker 4: got better that he sees the next Josh Allen and

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Speaker 4: Drake May. And then there's Minnesota whose quarterback coach is

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Speaker 4: former Cardinals quarterback Josh McCown, who coached Drake May in

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Speaker 4: high school. So there's all these connections, right, and there's

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Speaker 4: all this subterfuge. Who's gonna go where? And my sleeper

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Speaker 4: on all this would be the Las Vegas Raiders. Do

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Speaker 4: you realize since Antonio Pierce took over that team Week nine,

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Speaker 4: they had the number one scoring defense in the NFL

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Speaker 4: the second half of the season, and they added Christian Wilkins. Wow,

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Speaker 4: they need a quarterback, and I think they're willing to

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Speaker 4: pay for a quarterback, as the Raiders view that as

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Speaker 4: We didn't even get around to the combine. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he was the star of the combine, right, He's got

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