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Speaker 1: this with Michelle Singletary, who is the nationally syndicated personal

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Speaker 1: in Washington Post syndicated nationally. Hey Michelle, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine? How are you good? Good? Good? All of

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Speaker 1: my retirement plans are scratch off tickets, all right, Seriously,

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's surprises people that you can become

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