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Speaker 1: day at the State. Is that? Whoa whoam and Dan

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Speaker 1: and tie? Dan Rubinstein, we officially have a twelve team

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Speaker 1: college football playoff field. The Committee ESPN, you could argue,

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Speaker 1: the mouthpiece for the Committee decided that day we're going

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Speaker 1: to release the rankings after much fanfare. It's about one

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Speaker 1: twenty three pm Eastern time. We had originally scheduled to

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Speaker 1: Go back and listen to the content we dropped earlier

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Speaker 1: this morning, where we talk through what transpired on Championship Week,

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Speaker 1: the games of note, the storylines of Note, and so

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Speaker 1: on and so forth. In effect, this is a part

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Speaker 1: evening Saturday night slash Sunday morning, Dan Rubinstein, we have

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Speaker 1: our field. The Committee revealed its results.

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Speaker 2: I'll flash it on the screen. Okay, we can talk

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Speaker 2: through what that means.

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Speaker 1: We can talk through ideal pathways, we can talk through

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Speaker 1: really anything that is grinding our gears. I've got a

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Speaker 1: of course, But at present, here's where things stan. Indiana,

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Speaker 1: the undisputed number one team in college football, thirteen and zero,

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Speaker 1: knocked off Ohio State. They did exactly what we expected.

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Speaker 1: They flipped Indiana and Ohio State. It was a three

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Speaker 1: point game, thirteen to ten. Instead of Ohio State being one,

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Speaker 1: Indiana is now one, Ohio State is number two. Georgia

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Speaker 1: at three makes a lot of sense, as does Texas

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Speaker 1: Tech at number four, virtue of their respective conference championship

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Speaker 1: victories in the SEC and the Big Twelve. Once we

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Speaker 1: get through that initial field, the top four who get

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Speaker 1: first round bys, we talk about your Oregon Ducks holding

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Speaker 1: at number ten. It is Miami. The Hurricanes at the

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Speaker 1: ten team in this tournament. And then to round out

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Speaker 1: all of this, and especially with a five loss, ACC

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Speaker 1: which I actually think is kind of cool. Good for

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Speaker 1: them to get this. Two coaches, by the way, that

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Speaker 1: that is kind of its own subplot all together. Dan

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Speaker 1: I think Texas was the next one up. For all

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Speaker 1: intentsive purposes here though, the graphic that we've got on

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Speaker 1: how that translates to a bracket, You've got Oregon hosting

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Speaker 2: I believe that's the Saturday night at seven thirty Eastern game.

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Speaker 1: Yep, correct. The Friday night game is going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot to discuss here. Why don't we start at

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Speaker 2: But this is what we signed up for. And the

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Speaker 2: And that's on them. That's on you know, the conference commissioners,

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Speaker 1: Here, it is We've had a bunch of people right

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Speaker 2: Could have ranked Duke ahead of James Madison, who obviously

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Speaker 1: Dan? We've doing it on say time? Why stop now?

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It could have just done it.

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Speaker 1: It is a great story for both of those schools.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm looking forward to forward to

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Speaker 1: Mean, you're an Oregon fan, you're definitely looking forward to

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Speaker 2: They moved up by barely beating Auburn, who I don't

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Speaker 1: We talk about a lot of fun stuff on this show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So look the cynic as you bring up the SEC

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Speaker 2: They are on the level with South Carolina and Auburn,

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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed, but I get that that that logically right,

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Speaker 1: I think the way that they presented it at least now,

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Speaker 2: teams on neutral sites, or you can schedule G five

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Speaker 2: teams like Notre Dame has over the years when they

436
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Speaker 2: schedule you know, the Service academies, what have you and

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Speaker 2: the Service. The Navy team they played this year was

438
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Speaker 2: good that you need to exert like a terrific amount

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Speaker 2: of force, and Notre Dame did. But also, if you

440
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Speaker 2: don't play a lot of highly ranked teams. If you

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Speaker 2: don't play a lot of top twenty teams like the

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Speaker 2: best of the SEC schedules have, then you have to

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Speaker 2: perform in those games. And Notre Dame didn't just lose

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Speaker 2: to Texas A and M. They gave up forty one

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Speaker 2: points at home with their strength eventually becoming their defense.

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Speaker 2: But they got run through and around and over and

447
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Speaker 2: buy against Texas A and M. And they lost to Miami.

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Speaker 2: Close it lost by one point to Texas A and M.

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Speaker 2: On A botched yesterday, Okay, so I'll tell you. I

450
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Speaker 2: hear you. They would have tied with the extra point,

451
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Speaker 2: and they gave up a game winning touchdown to a

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Speaker 2: tight end who never catches balls.

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Speaker 1: No, that's fair. And you know we could say the

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Speaker 1: same about Texas A and M giving up forty points

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Speaker 1: of course against a Notre Dame offense that at that

456
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Speaker 1: when your season was not fully developed. So I get it,

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Speaker 1: I get it. I think it comes ways. But what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying won that game, so fair.

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Speaker 2: Enough, the margin for Notre Dame is less because you

460
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Speaker 2: can take a look at a team I agree with

461
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Speaker 2: that that that plays in a conference and say they

462
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Speaker 2: have no control over their conference schedule, right that sometimes

463
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Speaker 2: it's going to be a murderer's role like what Oklahoma's

464
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Speaker 2: was this year, or Texas is sometimes or was this year,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes it's just going to be a fortunate schedule

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Speaker 2: like we had with you know, the ACC championship teams

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Speaker 2: with Duke in Virginia. I'm sure I agree with so,

468
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Speaker 2: but I'm saying that's the case against Notre Dame. I

469
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Speaker 2: just think people are making the wrong case right now

470
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Speaker 2: because Notre Dame themselves played like a playoff team after

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Speaker 2: those two losses, and those are good losses and if

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Speaker 2: your losses have to matter, just like wins have to matter.

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Speaker 2: The thing that really annoyed me about the Alabama thing

474
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Speaker 2: was these again this is Hunter Yeerchek's paraphrased words, is

475
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Speaker 2: we looked at the totality of alabama schedule so obviously

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Speaker 2: including the worst loss to a team that hasn't won

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Speaker 2: a road game in two years, and we said, you know,

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Speaker 2: they also have a pretty incredible win that they were

479
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Speaker 2: able to beat the SEC champion on the road in September,

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Speaker 2: And the only reason that Georgia is the SEC champion

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Speaker 2: is because they beat Alabama literally yesterday, forty four minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: And so that tells me and my pea brain that

483
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Speaker 2: the committee just thought to themselves, we can't put in

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Speaker 2: the three, four, five and leave out the number two,

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Speaker 2: even though you definitely can. They lost to a dumb,

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Speaker 2: dumb acc team to start the season a very important

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Speaker 2: time per the committee.

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Speaker 1: Dan, that's not even the thing though. Yeah, it's not

489
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Speaker 1: even about leaving Alabama out of the playoff. It's about

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Speaker 1: some conference championship games meaning something, meaning enough to drop BYU.

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Speaker 1: And it's about others that were almost as lopsided, not

492
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Speaker 1: having any bearing whatsoever on the rankings, not at all.

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Speaker 1: They didn't drop a lick nothing. And you know what,

494
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Speaker 1: they didn't even think about dropping them a lick because

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Speaker 1: it's al a frickin' Bama. I agree, they had their

496
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Speaker 1: mind made up before this week. Shame on the committee.

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Speaker 1: What do you call them? Dented avocados on avocados? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Look, and then so then the question becomes, Okay, if

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Speaker 2: it's a thirty five to seven loss, what's the threshold

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Speaker 2: for saying Alabama is not performing like a playoff team yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Dan? What is the impetus for any of these teams

502
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Speaker 1: any of these teams that are in the top twelve

503
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Speaker 1: to even play there once in a conference championship game.

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Speaker 1: If it's completely meaningless, completely independent of the final score,

505
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Speaker 1: what is the motivation to take your ones out there

506
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Speaker 1: and risk them getting hurt? I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think Kirby Smart and Kaylin de Borr should have

508
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Speaker 2: gone to some sort of like Cracker Barrel or Chili's

509
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Speaker 2: or something and had a handshake agreement, let's both pay

510
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: a fine and not play, or just play our bunch

511
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Speaker 2: of our walk on.

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Speaker 1: This is old like FIFA World Cup BS, where two

513
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Speaker 1: teams could come to a gentleman's agreement like, ah, maybe

514
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Speaker 1: we just won't score and then we both go through. Right.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't quite that, But what's the point? What's the point?

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Speaker 1: They want to have conference championship games with real meaning, right,

517
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Speaker 1: That is what I am getting from this. But at

518
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Speaker 1: the same time, the conference ship games don't really have

519
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Speaker 1: any real meaning. They just sort of like them because

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Speaker 1: it's an extra game they could sell into. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this, to be clear, is a ninth

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Speaker 2: SEC conference game for these teams. This is not some

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Speaker 2: sort of crazy extra game that no teams would have

524
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Speaker 2: to like This is a ninth game. The Big Ten

525
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Speaker 2: and the Big twelve already played nine conference games and

526
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Speaker 2: then play a tenth in their conference championship game. So

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Speaker 2: this is not an above and beyond moment for both

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Speaker 2: Alabama and Georgia and whoever plays in the SEC championship game.

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Speaker 1: This is not.

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Speaker 2: This is merely a ninth game that the SEC is

531
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Speaker 2: eventually going to anyway. But it's a it's a pretty

532
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Speaker 2: pathetic showing.

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Speaker 1: It really is.

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Speaker 2: Like the case for Alabama is they were good for

535
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Speaker 2: like three and a half weeks in October.

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Speaker 1: They're like, okay, cool.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm always going to be a believer that

538
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Speaker 2: all weeks are not created equal and seasons are living,

539
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Speaker 2: breathing things. And Georgia just won without two of their

540
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Speaker 2: best receivers and their starting center and managed to find

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Speaker 2: a way to look like Georgia. Georgia didn't look like

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Speaker 2: Georgia the week before against Georgia Tech and managed to

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Speaker 2: find a way to win that game, Like this is

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Speaker 2: what excellent teams and worthy teams do, and Alabama just

545
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Speaker 2: over and over again is sort of getting a thumb

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Speaker 2: on the scale and this is our sport.

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Speaker 1: I am not arguing that Alabama should have been left

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Speaker 1: out entirely. I am not making that case, but I

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Speaker 1: am saying we need to come to an understanding. Either

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Speaker 1: conference championship games matter and can have can have some

551
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Speaker 1: penalty right if you lose in dramatic fashion, or they don't.

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Speaker 1: We can't have it both ways, because this is now

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Speaker 1: a situation where we had it both ways. It worked

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Speaker 1: against BYU, worked right against BYU, worked against other teams

555
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Speaker 1: that lost, worked against Ohio State, they would right they dropped. One.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't work for Alabama though, because it's our precious sec beautiful. Yeah. Absolutely, anyway, listen,

557
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get off my high horse now. Of course,

558
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Speaker 1: welcome everybody's feedback. I'm not trying to dunk too hard,

559
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Speaker 1: but I feel very passionately about this. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a joke. I think it's a joke specifically with regard

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Speaker 1: to this. I get the Notre Dame in Miami thing.

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Speaker 1: I am crazy disappointed. I've said that ten times now,

563
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Speaker 1: but I get that. I get that I wanted both

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Speaker 1: teams in but that wasn't going to happen. But the

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Speaker 1: way that they handled this conference championship thing, I think

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Speaker 1: is an absolute farce.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there would have been a number if

568
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Speaker 2: they lost fifty two to seven?

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Speaker 1: No, no, you don't. No, it's unbelievable. It's great. It really.

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Speaker 2: By the way, once again, tinfoil hat Dan here. They

571
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Speaker 2: started the show with the Alabama messaging.

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Speaker 1: Oh they did it was they did? I was just

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Speaker 1: going to bring that up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was an Alabama anchor tossing to an Alabama quarterback

575
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Speaker 2: and then via satellite a legendary Alabama coach who is

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Speaker 2: a paid consultant with an office on campus at Alabama.

577
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Speaker 2: And at this point, I it is my belief if

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Speaker 2: you are taking a paycheck from ESPN, I think you're compromised.

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Speaker 2: I just there is something about watching this coverage that

580
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Speaker 2: screams like if McDon donald's had a TV network and

581
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Speaker 2: had an annual award for like, here is the best

582
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Speaker 2: milkshake or milkshake adjacent product, and it goes too and

583
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Speaker 2: we're gonna go around this roundtable. We're gonna have the Hamburgler,

584
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have grimis. Everybody's gonna weigh in. I think

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Speaker 2: you got to give it to mcfluury, and everybody's like,

586
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Speaker 2: I think mcfluury is the choice and you're like, Okay, cool,

587
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Speaker 2: I think you're compromised. If you take any money from

588
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Speaker 2: ESPN and you weigh in on the college football playoff,

589
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Speaker 2: you're just wearing a badge. That's all you're doing. I mean,

590
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Speaker 2: Bill Connolly is compromised. I just see this in the.

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Speaker 1: Bill Connolly helped to decide, right, he helped to decide

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Speaker 1: the Mountain West Championship participants.

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Speaker 2: Bill Connolly is compromised. He is, and you know what,

594
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Speaker 2: he's the best. He is the best. But at the

595
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Speaker 2: same time, if he went on the air, and I

596
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Speaker 2: believe in my heart of hearts that Bill Connolly's heart

597
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Speaker 2: is pure, but if he went on and be like,

598
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Speaker 2: well you have to consider though.

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Speaker 1: A ESPN I would Okay, let's flash the bracket up there, now,

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Speaker 1: flash the Brackett's Let's get away from this in a second.

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Speaker 1: Let's celebrate my teams that are in this playoff field. Yes,

602
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Speaker 1: let's not talk about the method anymore. There's going to

603
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: be plenty of time to go over that again, I'm sure. Yeah,

604
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Speaker 1: here is where things stand right now. Again, we talk

605
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Speaker 1: through the first round matchups, who the winners of those

606
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Speaker 1: first round matchups are going to square off against if

607
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Speaker 1: they make it through into the quarterfinals. As you look

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Speaker 1: across the twelve team field here and these matchups, is

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Speaker 1: there a particular path that jumps out to you immediately?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking the first round, but is

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Speaker 1: there a pathway through to the semifinals that you think

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Speaker 1: rises above the others? Because I have a few thoughts

613
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Speaker 1: on this as well, but I want to get your

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Speaker 1: take first, since I've been dominating here by yelling into

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Speaker 1: this microphone.

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Speaker 2: I think Indiana's path is pretty good. Good Honestly, where

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Speaker 2: are they playing that game?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I believe that's in the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That's that would make sense. That's in the Rose bul

620
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Speaker 2: So any and it gets to play in the Rose

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Speaker 2: Bowl against either Oklahoma or Alabama. I don't hate that

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Speaker 2: path because I just I think Indiana is so buttoned

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Speaker 2: up right with what they were able to do play

624
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Speaker 2: to play on both sides of the ball. I don't

625
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Speaker 2: hate that path playing in the Rose Bowl. Again, though,

626
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Speaker 2: it's how you feel about that all that extra time

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Speaker 2: because they won't be playing Today's December seventh, so that's

628
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Speaker 2: what twenty four to twenty five days away. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So that's a that's been three and a half weeks

630
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Speaker 2: of you know, going home for the holidays or you know,

631
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Speaker 2: it's just it's an a rhythmic experience figuring out portal

632
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Speaker 2: stuff behind the scenes, figuring out higher stuff for all

633
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Speaker 2: these you know, teams that have the buy, it's just

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Speaker 2: a long time. I think Ohio State's path is pretty

635
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Speaker 2: nice and Oregon's path. Look, you get your a three

636
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Speaker 2: touchdown favorite, and it's not great to play against Texas

637
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Tech defense. That is a brutal, brutal ask but it's

638
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Speaker 2: across the country for Oregon. It's a good distance for Texas.

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, I imagine, is going to be just unbelievably

640
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Speaker 2: just hyped up to be in that matchup. But I

641
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Speaker 2: don't hate Oregon getting the Texas Tech offense in this one.

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Speaker 2: And Oregon, weirdly enough, I already looked a little bit ahead,

643
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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe James Madison beats Oregon. Oregon has

644
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Speaker 2: struggled in the red zone on defense with allowing touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: and Texas Tech has struggled on offense scoring touchdowns in

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Speaker 2: the red zone, So that's like an early read there.

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Speaker 2: So no, I think in terms of upsets, Oregon probably

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Speaker 2: in that five to four matchup, if we get it,

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Speaker 2: has a nice path, and then Georgia ole Miss. I

650
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Speaker 2: just have no idea what to expect from what ole

651
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: Miss looks like with Pete Golding and Charlie Weis Junior

652
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: is calling the offense. There, I'm not putting them through

653
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: over tu Lane immediately. But they did beat Tulane by

654
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: a comfortable margin this season. Yeah, and Tulan has their

655
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: own distraction with their own coach leaving. So I think

656
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: the best first round matchup is probably Miami A and

657
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: M purely from A like, Okay, so we both beat

658
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. How are we going to play each other?

659
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well that's interesting in its own right, you know

660
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: what I mean, They've got I think that's the best

661
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: game in round one. Yeah, So, to answer your question

662
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: from earlier, the winner of the A and M Miami

663
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: game plays Ohio State and the Cotton Bowl. So perhaps

664
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a home game for Texas A and M,

665
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: although it's always a home game when Ohio State's involved, right,

666
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: they travel Jerry World Cotton Bowl, Arlington. Yeah, that's right,

667
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: your Oregon Ducks. Should they pull through and knock off

668
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: James Madison, that will be in the Orange Bowl. Right

669
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: as I mentioned a minute ago, the Indiana game versus

670
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Speaker 1: the winner of the Home in Alabama is going to

671
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Speaker 1: take place in the Rose Bowl. And then the final

672
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: quarter final matchup between Georgia and whoever wins between Ole

673
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Miss and Tulane that will be in the Sugar Bowl.

674
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: So if Tulane gets through, that'd be fun. I think

675
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: the path that jumps out to me initially is the

676
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Speaker 1: Oregon path, and this is something that I talked through

677
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: with you Ian to go now. It feels like forever ago,

678
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: but Oregon is going to be a healthy favorite. I

679
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: haven't seen by how much over James Madison. Maybe we

680
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: can pull that up here as we're talking through all

681
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: these matchups. I think Oregon matches up particularly well with

682
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. I get what you're saying about Tech Tech Defense.

683
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: Tech Tech defense has been incredible for sure, possibly America's best.

684
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: I am not enamored with that offense, and so I

685
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: actually see that as a rather low scoring game, more

686
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Speaker 1: of a defensive struggle between those two. And I've got

687
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Speaker 1: Oregon making it through into the semifinal. Yep, no knock

688
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: on Texas Tech. Forgive me. I just don't trust Baron

689
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: Morton in a high leverage spot like that. So I've

690
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: got Oregon making it through into the semifinals. I've got

691
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: Oklahoma over Alabama in that first matchup. Again, that's a

692
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: rematch we saw that one earlier, was a close game

693
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. I think Oklahoma pulls another one

694
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: out over Alabama, and I think Indiana moves through into

695
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: the semifinals for a rematch against Oregon. On the other

696
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: side of the bracket, I've got Old Miss over Tu Lane.

697
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: I've got Georgia over Old Miss.

698
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, once again, where would that game be Georgia Ole Miss.

699
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: That would be in the Sugar Bowl, So that would

700
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: be in New Orleans. Inside we would have Jerry World. Inside,

701
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: we'd have the Rose Bowl. Likely good weather. We'd have

702
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: South Florida, likely good weather, though sogginess is on the table.

703
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 2: I like Georgia over Ole Miss.

704
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: I like Georgia over a lot of teams right now,

705
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, with the way that they've

706
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: been playing, They're one of these teams that has taken

707
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: a quantum leap here second half of the season, and

708
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Speaker 1: that culminated with an SEC championship over Alabama yesterday, Georgia

709
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: right now again the three seed. I've got them through

710
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: to the semi finals. I've got Texas A and M

711
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Speaker 1: over Miami, And I am a bit on the fence

712
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Speaker 1: about Texas A and M versus Ohio State. If I'm

713
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: being real with you, I really like this Texas A

714
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Speaker 1: and M team.

715
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's a matter of which one shows up when. Yeah,

716
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: I really like this Texas A and M team.

717
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: My inclination is still to go with Ohio State, but

718
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: I could be swayed off of that. I think for me,

719
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: that's the toughest part of this bracket to project forward.

720
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: But gun in my head right now, I probably go

721
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Okay, fair enough. So.

722
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Speaker 2: One of the interesting things in looking at these teams

723
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: who are playing is the recency of interesting, big, meaningful wins,

724
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Like Oregon has won in usc not a playoff team,

725
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: but a decent win at home. Alabama doesn't have one.

726
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma has a pretty good Alabama obviously. Ole Miss has

727
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 2: decent wins though recently. I don't know if I'm missing

728
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: anything with ole Miss recently, just in terms of how

729
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: we're playing. Obviously they're dealing with off the field stuff.

730
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: You know, the beat Florida South Carolina. The Oklahoma game

731
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: was I think before Halloween, so they haven't really played

732
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: a tough opponent recently. Alabama hasn't performed well, Miami hasn't

733
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: played anybody in a long time. You know, I'm depending

734
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: on how you feel about Pitt. I guess maybe that's

735
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: disrespectful to Pitt and Texas. A and m has not

736
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: beaten a good in quite some time. So the recency

737
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: of results is just interesting to me in terms of, like,

738
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: how accurately can we gauge, you know, where this team

739
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: is right now? I think it's all over the place.

740
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Speaker 1: I think you'd be hard pressed to pick anyone at

741
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Speaker 1: this point other than Indiana period. Yeah, period, full stop.

742
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean they look absolutely legit. Their defensive showing against

743
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: Ohio State on Saturday night was what stood out the

744
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: most to me. To be able to win a couple

745
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: different ways, right, Yeah, To be able to win with

746
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: your back to the wall, needing a miracle drive on

747
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: the road in Happy Valley emerging victorious, or to be

748
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: in a bit of a defensive slugfest on a neutral

749
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Speaker 1: site against a team that has owned the conference now

750
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: for you know, a good chunk of time at least

751
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: if they haven't been winning the conference title, they've been

752
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: winning national championships, or it's Ohio State, they're always in

753
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: the hunt. So to get a win like that in

754
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: the manner that they did, basically to play physical football,

755
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: go toe to toe with Ohio State and win that

756
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: one by three. This is a team that can beat

757
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: you a multitude of different ways. And I'm not sure

758
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: I feel much differently about a rematch between them and

759
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: Oregon should it come to pass, because Indiana showed me

760
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 1: something in that game against Ohio State.

761
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: By the way, this in terms of what this year's

762
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: bracket looks like in the old old system, Indiana's your

763
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: national champion, right, lone undefeated team crown them in the BCS.

764
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: We're getting likely what Indiana Georgia right in this championship

765
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: game without like a huge argument made for like Texas

766
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: Tech or Oregon. In the four team system, you have

767
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: a Texas Tech Oregon conversation. Oregon, I guess has the

768
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: better loss but didn't make their conference championship game, and

769
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, you know, dominated their best their their best

770
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 2: opponent twice in BYU and won their conference championship game.

771
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: So that's an interesting conversation to have. But like, it's

772
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: not crazy to have a Texas Tech, Georgia, Ohio State

773
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: Indiana playoff. Like people will be like, all right, yeah,

774
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: those are the four well, and it's just I'm really

775
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: hoping we have good interesting matchups here. But how we

776
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: got here I think was pretty screwy. Again with a

777
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: committee made up of dented avocados, and yes, Buster Onney compromised,

778
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: Mark Messier compromised, take your pick, they're all compromised.

779
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: I would welcome anyone's feedback out there who's got something

780
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: to say. Jessica Mendoza, you compromised. You can either write

781
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: in sliverbo at gmail dot com, hit us up in

782
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: the comments, hit us up in the chat. We're going

783
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: to have ample time to go through and discuss these matchups,

784
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: look at point spreads once they're a little bit more settled,

785
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: and of course go through the feedback that we get

786
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: from the verballer hood on just the manner in which

787
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: they got to these twelve teams.

788
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: But do you think, by the way, yeah, just because

789
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: you're a notre dame human, do you think this would

790
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: this a the beginning of a case for Notre Dame

791
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: to join a conference. Notre Dame is demolished in the

792
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: ACC if they're playing obviously Virginia or Duke in this

793
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: championship game, and they would or they would have an

794
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: opportunity if the tiebreakers were different, to play against Miami.

795
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: Once again, I feel like we get to this moment

796
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: every so often where we're like, Aha, this is the

797
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: thing that's gonna do it.

798
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it might just be a rare year both.

799
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: It seems that like ten and two for Notre Dame

800
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 2: is largely going to be good enough.

801
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: Often, I think it is far more likely that they

802
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: expand the playoff to fourteen or sixteen teams than Notre

803
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: Dame joins a conference in the short term to give

804
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: themselves potentially a leg up to get into this college

805
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: football playoff field. You know, part of me wonders if

806
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: they were in the Big Ten but did not qualify

807
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: for a conference championship game, same record, Big Ten schedule,

808
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: would we have felt differently about the fighting Irish. I

809
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: know it's popular to make fun of Notre Dame for

810
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: being independent. I've gotten it probably about a thousand times

811
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: already today. Well, they should join a conference like a

812
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: real team. Okay, well, if they were in a conference,

813
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: if they played a big ten schedule and they still

814
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Speaker 1: went ten and two, maybe with a similar strength of schedule,

815
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Speaker 1: would people have felt differently about Notre Dame in this case.

816
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: My hunch is yes, because they'd be in a conference

817
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: and they'd have that label. But in all practicality, it

818
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: might not have made that much of a difference in

819
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: terms of the underlying numbers. So I don't know. I

820
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: just don't think it's likely. With how dead set determined

821
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: they are to remain independent. It is so much a

822
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: part of their identity as a program on the football side.

823
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: I know that's not ubiquitous across all of Notre Dame's programs,

824
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: but it is such a big part of who they

825
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: are and who they want to be. Now, if we've

826
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Speaker 1: got a twelve team field next year and the same

827
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: thing happens, if this happens a couple times over, then

828
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Speaker 1: it's a conversation. Because they are investing heavily in this

829
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: football program. Marcus Freeman is clearly a name that is

830
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: in demand, and I think at some point, yeah, maybe

831
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: we could we get to that moment where it truly

832
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: does make more sense, if only to help this program

833
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: get back to the level of winning a national championship.

834
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: But I think this taken in a vacuum is probably

835
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: not enough. And being so, they have a vote in

836
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: that room, and being so, it seems like there's already

837
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: a lot of momentum on expanding the playoff, albeit nobody

838
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: knows how. I think that is the more likely outcome

839
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: because if this is a sixteen team field, even if

840
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: it's a fourteen team field, Notre Dame gets in easily.

841
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: I agree. I look, it's just how the committee evaluates

842
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: things is just going to change day to day, and

843
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: so doing anything dramatic is pretty silly because the committee

844
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: will have no idea how it feels about it on

845
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: Tuesday as it compares to Thursday. And you you know,

846
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: you can say, you know, Notre Dame should have won

847
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: those big games. Miami should have beaten SMU, Miami should

848
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: have beaten Louisville, didn't matter, right, they're in a conference,

849
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: didn't matter. But they won the head to head game

850
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: in August, and that apparently is is the thing, and

851
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: I think head to head should matter. But if you

852
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: take in the totality of it, it's just team to

853
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: team situation a situation. It's not an easy job. Let's

854
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: be clear, No, it isn't.

855
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: I don't envy having that position, And I don't mean

856
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: to imply that everybody in that room has a hidden

857
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: agenda or anything crazy like. No, I don't think that's

858
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: the key. I think these are a lot of people

859
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: who love college football want to be part of the process.

860
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: So that is admirable, But it's just very, very frustrating

861
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: from the outside in if you are not a fan

862
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: of Alabama, even if you are a fan of the SEC. Yeah,

863
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Speaker 1: to look at how this is treated inconsistently across conferences

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Speaker 1: with respect to these conference championship games right there truly

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00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: is no impetus to go in there and win. What

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Speaker 1: is the point of having them? Right Like Greg McElroy

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Speaker 1: talked about this speaking of Alabama voices in the room

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Speaker 1: about how the committee set a precedent last year for

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Speaker 1: not wanting to penalize teams that lost conference championship games.

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Speaker 1: They don't want teams to fall out of the playoff

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Speaker 1: field as a result of losing a conference championship game.

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Speaker 1: But they did fall. But all those teams did fall

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Speaker 1: by a spot or two. So the fact that this

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Speaker 1: loss by Alabama was way worse than any of those

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Speaker 1: games and they didn't move an inch, right, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't do much to emphasize the value of conference

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Speaker 1: championship games either. No, not at all. They were sort

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Speaker 1: of damned if they didn't. Damned if they didn't. It's

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Speaker 1: in fairness to the committee. I mean, there was not

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00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: a good choice here. But this inconsistency, I think is

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00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: going to be a real issue, and I don't expect

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Speaker 1: people are going to be talking any less about it

883
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Speaker 1: moving forward, because especially now as we're talking about banning

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Speaker 1: the playoff field, I think it even further degrades the

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Speaker 1: value of conference championship games. And you know, we will

886
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: probably arrive organically at this moment where everybody just kind

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Speaker 1: of throws them to the wayside, and maybe we go

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Speaker 1: more the direction of what Tony Petiti's been saying on

889
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten side of things, which we should just

890
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Speaker 1: have playing games to determine who gets in from our

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Speaker 1: conference and go with that instead. I'm not crazy about

892
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: any of this, mind you, but this inconsistency, combined with

893
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Speaker 1: the fact that they already want to expand this thing,

894
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: I think has taken us to a point where championship

895
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Speaker 1: games kind of go bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Every quote will make more sense. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: if there's a find and replaced function you can use

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Speaker 2: in your chrome, in your safari whatever. Every Playoff Committee

899
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Speaker 2: quote will make more sense if instead of a period,

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Speaker 2: you add a comma and buy and large. We looked

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Speaker 2: at this and we felt it was important that we

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Speaker 2: grade on this rubric Comma by and large, right, it's

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Speaker 2: when they feel like applying, where they feel like applying.

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Speaker 2: And I cannot stress enough that the chair of the

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Speaker 2: committee went on ESPN. Owners of the college football playoff right,

906
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: went on ESPN and with a straight face, sold America

907
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Speaker 2: on the idea of what Alabama did yesterday somehow was

908
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Speaker 2: more impressive because they had a win earlier over the

909
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Speaker 2: team that just put them in a locker. It is

910
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 2: somehow good actually that Alabama lost yesterday because it improved

911
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Speaker 2: their best win. That kind of backwards logic is what

912
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: gets us to this insanely silly moment, Dan.

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Speaker 1: Rubisin, why don't we leave it there. We appreciate everybody

914
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Speaker 1: who tuned in to watch this live. We went a

915
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: little bit earlier than expected because I was spitting mad.

916
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: I put on a collar shirt for the occasion. Though

917
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: I was excited about this broadcast, asked, I wish for

918
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Speaker 1: a different outcome, But that's me speaking as a fan.

919
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: I think everybody knows where I stand on this and

920
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: some of the inconsistencies that really got me going. I

921
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: think everybody knows the same about you. So we would

922
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Speaker 1: welcome anybody's feedback against sliverble at gmail dot com. We've

923
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Speaker 1: comments wherever you can be at YouTube, be at Spotify.

924
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Many podcast apps out there allow you to do that now,

925
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Speaker 1: so we read all of them. We don't always have

926
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Speaker 1: a chance to respond to all of them, but we

927
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Speaker 1: do read all of them. We got a lot of

928
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Speaker 1: them coming in, especially this time of year. If those

929
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: don't work for you, hit us up on social media.

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Speaker 1: We would love to hear from you. As I like

931
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: to say, just don't be a dick. Okay, be nice

932
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: about it. We're all in this because we love college football.

933
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Speaker 1: You welcome your tack.

934
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Speaker 2: Don't email in digital do that is.

935
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Speaker 1: That Morgan Freeman sing diary diarrhea? Yeah, okay, don't do that.

936
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Speaker 1: That's other than that though, That's okay. We've got our

937
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Speaker 1: field of twelve. We will have plenty of time to

938
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Speaker 1: debate where it goes next. We will talk through bowl

939
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Speaker 1: matchups on one of our upcoming episodes. We still do

940
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: need to talk about Penn State hiring Matt Campbell. There

941
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: has been a lot that is going on in the

942
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Speaker 1: college football world. We also need to go through signing Day.

943
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: We'll bring our friend Brandon Hoffman on at some point

944
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: here over the next few episodes as well. So just

945
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: because the regular season and conference championship week is over,

946
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: we've got playoffs, We've got news. We got a bunch

947
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: of stuff going. This is the new December in college football.

948
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Speaker 1: News has not ceased to exist at all. Make sure

949
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Speaker 1: you hit follower subscribes that you don't miss any of

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Speaker 1: those episodes. We're going to do our best to get

951
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Speaker 1: through all that. Yes, Forballers dot Com is where you

952
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: can go if you want to support what Dan and

953
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: I do. We're going to be launching a playoff game,

954
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Speaker 1: you know it as Bowl Bingo. We played it last year,

955
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Speaker 1: everybody loved it. We're going to do that again, So

956
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: stay tuned for more information. If you want to get

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Speaker 1: In the meantime though, for myself Ty Hildenbrandt, for that

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Speaker 1: beautiful gentleman over there, Dan Rubinstein. Thank you as always

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00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: for tuning in, for supporting, for downloading, for listening, for

961
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Speaker 1: just helping us through these interesting times in college football

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Speaker 1: and in the meantime, as always, stay soft peace,