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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing how Jamal Murray gets untracked

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think I think out of all those,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The difference is, I think between you know, guarding

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Speaker 3: You know, he is a lot faster than Roger and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I also if if Murray's got going like he

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Speaker 2: mean they'll they'll put him on for They'll put him

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Speaker 4: A tough one this morning.

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Speaker 2: Didn't mean to pile on there. You're right, I think

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Speaker 2: If Jamal has those threes dropping, he's got the little

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Speaker 6: Well, just the Nuggets, Stemina. I mean, they've had two

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Speaker 2: Going to see another doucebags.

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Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think Lebron's going to come

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The counter though to the mental or physical fatigue

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Speaker 2: so they can just continue to run with that. You

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00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,159
Speaker 2: can just play a little free and easy. I'm with you.

431
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 2: It's not going to be. It's not going to be

432
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 2: a cakewalk. And nor have their other series and the

433
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,280
Speaker 2: Lakers with Lebron, you know, he's got some experience in

434
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 2: postseason series and how they go. But at least they

435
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 2: have that still going for them. It's not like suddenly like,

436
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 2: well nope, they should probably you know, be a legit

437
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,399
Speaker 2: chance to go to the finals. No one's going to

438
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 2: have them. So that's good I think for them.

439
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think you're right. It's just if this was,

440
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 6: say the first round, maybe they could surprise the Lakers

441
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 6: a little bit. But seeing the Lakers have just watched

442
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,200
Speaker 6: what they've done and they're like, all right, this team's legit,

443
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 6: you know, let's let's not give them a chance here,

444
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 6: and you know that's all and again, it's just tough.

445
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 6: It's just tough to continue playing at that level. And

446
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,399
Speaker 6: you know the nuggets, like you say, playing with house money.

447
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 6: But you don't want them to also be like, well

448
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter now because we've done so well. You

449
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 6: want them to be like, hey, we want to keep

450
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 6: this thing going as much as we can.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I kept thinking. I tweeted it out here before

452
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Speaker 2: the show. I kept thinking of that Jamal Murray quote

453
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Speaker 2: from June prior to the NBA restart, when he was

454
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Speaker 2: like on some zoom call and he was basically like,

455
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 2: why can't we go win the title? Why not us?

456
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of guys do this, but

457
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: it was like this, like he would have been working

458
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: out with the Joker. He said, he's all athletic, he's

459
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Speaker 2: fit now and he said, quote Jamal Murray, we don't

460
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 2: think there's a team that can beat us in a

461
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: seven game series when we were playing at our best.

462
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 2: I mean that's the key there, And it's really starts

463
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: with the Joker and Jamal Murray and then the other

464
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: guy's got to fill in the parts and it's helped

465
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 2: they got Gary Harris back. So I don't know, I

466
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: love it. I just love that they are like, hey,

467
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: why not, well, why do we have to lose? It's great.

468
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean that's something something really enjoyable about that vibe,

469
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 2: and they're like they're talking about it a lot, even

470
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 2: in their post game interviews where they're saying, yeah, we're

471
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: just having a blast, and it's like, just go out

472
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: there and hoop and see what happens. Will that work

473
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Speaker 2: against Lebron and Lakers. We're gonna find out, we'll get

474
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Speaker 2: to our predictions. Anything to add to sort of Lea's

475
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 2: point there about stamina tasks and the possibility of this

476
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Speaker 2: being the end of this sort of Cinderella run if

477
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Speaker 2: you want to call.

478
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Speaker 3: It that, Well, this is the Conference finals. I don't

479
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 3: think anyone's playing around here. I think the Nuggets are

480
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 3: coming in thinking they can win and are going to

481
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Speaker 3: try and win game one, and the Lakers have been

482
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Speaker 3: playing for this all year, so I think this is

483
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Speaker 3: finally the game one that they come out and don't

484
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: joke around, no more playing around like you know, they

485
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: felt they felt out, the Blazers felt out the Rockets

486
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 3: a little bit. And this is again because I don't

487
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 3: think they can even think about, you know, like they

488
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: doubled Dame and double Harden towards end of possessions. I

489
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Speaker 3: don't think they can do that in this possession in

490
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Speaker 3: this series. So I think they all have to be

491
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 3: ready to guard their guy, ready to guard their yard.

492
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: As the Miami Heat saying, so it's it's on you.

493
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Speaker 3: You got to do your job to play one on

494
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Speaker 3: one and again. Like yeah, Jamal Murray said that in June,

495
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Speaker 3: But in October and September when the Lakers first got together,

496
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: they knew that they were going to be playing in

497
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Speaker 3: this position, and they have been all business in the bubble.

498
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Speaker 3: They really have in these first playoff series after you know,

499
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Speaker 3: the chilling out in Game ones a little bit. So

500
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Speaker 3: I'm looking for do you mention Gary Harris? I wonder,

501
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: because Michael Malone deserves some credit. Beginning of that second

502
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: round series, they just threw hi Gary Harris. It wasn't reacted.

503
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 3: They just started him right from the from the get go,

504
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: thinking that was their best way. I wonder if there's

505
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Speaker 3: any lineup changes for either team. I don't think there is.

506
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Speaker 3: I think the Lakers start KCP and Danny Green in

507
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Speaker 3: the backcourt, and I think the Nuggets start Jamal Murray

508
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: and Gary Harris in the back court. People are saying,

509
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Speaker 3: maybe you start Alex Caruso to go after Jamal Murray.

510
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Speaker 3: I think you save. You save that little ball's bulldog

511
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Speaker 3: for later on in the games.

512
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Speaker 1: And uh, Alex.

513
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Speaker 2: Carus If you hear Alex Caruso say something in the background,

514
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Speaker 2: it's we're also great training.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't think the Nuggets pull out go

516
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 3: crazy with them Michael Porter Junior because they need some

517
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Speaker 3: some scoring and throw him instead of Gary Harris. I

518
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Speaker 3: don't think so. So I think those will be the lineups,

519
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: and uh, the great training will be done on the

520
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Speaker 3: bench for for the kids.

521
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Speaker 1: It hard to guard a forty four acre yard, especially

522
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: with people walking by saying, look at the grass on

523
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Speaker 1: that A lot of grass to maintain.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just you got to put up a lot

525
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Speaker 3: of signs and be aware of dog you know those

526
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 3: bowl crap signs. All those people that don't have dogs.

527
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Speaker 3: That's this guy. I gotta be aware of dog sign

528
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: everywhere every fight. Oh yeah, I mean, don't those startle

529
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Speaker 3: you guys? If you go somebody's up, you know, take

530
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: a quick step back. You don't know where the thing.

531
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Speaker 2: It could be anywhere.

532
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: Exactly, and it could be anything. It's not necessarily a Luna.

533
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Speaker 2: No, no, it could it could be the most right now,

534
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: that is That is a good distinction though about like

535
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Speaker 2: you were talking about, the Lakers coming in probably much

536
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Speaker 2: more focused because this has been sort of their mo

537
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Speaker 2: all season long. Because when we talked about the Clippers,

538
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: it was all about the flipping of the switch, right, like,

539
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: we got all the talent in the world, we'll be

540
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: able to flip that switch when we need to walk in,

541
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: we'll beat the opponent. But the Lakers, with Lebron, it

542
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: has felt more like a dimmer. It's been the dimmer.

543
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: They've just sort of cranked it up at the start

544
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: of the season, just cranked it up a little bit more.

545
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Speaker 2: Then we had the weird break of course with the

546
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: COVID and the pandemic, but then in the playoffs and

547
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: into the bubble there started to slowly crank it up.

548
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: So you can't flip the switch. You got to use

549
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: a dimmer. Install a dimmer. It's beautiful. So yeah, I

550
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: hear you on that. The Lakers, I think are are

551
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: not going to just take them for granted by any means,

552
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: and they're just they're just wired differently than what we

553
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: saw from the Clippers, I think is the honest truth.

554
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 2: It's just they sort of were just a little bit

555
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: more like old hum, Well, we'll figure this out. Our

556
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: talent will get us by. But Lakers are talented, and

557
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: they appear to be at least a little bit more

558
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 2: focused and ready to go. My key to watch here

559
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: you brought up Michael Porter Jr. I saw Sean Pwett

560
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: NBA dot Com. He summed up sort of the key

561
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: for this West Finals for me, this series might demand

562
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 2: like a bonus player from either team to surface and

563
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: deliver in a few games. So it's like, who's going

564
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: to be the third wheel? We got ad Lebron, we

565
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: got Yo Kitchen, Marie, They've been phenomenal throughout the entire postseason.

566
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Speaker 2: But who will be, you know, the third wheel on

567
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: the tricycle to sort of slowly pedal into the finals

568
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: there at least for a couple of games. And I

569
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: think for the Nuggets, it would be pretty obvious that

570
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: it could be a Michael Porter junior. You know, he

571
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: would challenge for that third wheel spot and for the Lakers.

572
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: It could be Kuzma. So it's like this battle of

573
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: these like young guns. And yeah, Jeremy Grant for the

574
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: Nuggets is gounnahip in Gary Harris, as we talked about,

575
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: he's rounding in de form offensively. He always brings it defensively.

576
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: But I think Michael Porter Junior, he's gotta be special

577
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: for us to be eating more hummus two weeks from

578
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: now right like he he does, because he was amazing

579
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 2: in the seeding games, averaging twenty two, went for thirty

580
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: a couple of times, but then his role diminished in

581
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: the postseason, mainly because of his defensive liabilities, his lapses

582
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: on that end. But can you hide him a little

583
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: bit more versus the Lakers on the defensive end of

584
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: the floor and then get his offense, you know, get

585
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: him going for a couple of twenty point performances. I

586
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: think there's some possibilities. You know, you're you're putting him

587
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: on a on a questionable shooter, let's say at times,

588
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: or a streaky shooter out there for the Lakers. You

589
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: can maybe hide him so he might get more and

590
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: more of a chance here to help. And then but

591
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: of course Vogel and Lebron would be smart. They're gonna

592
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: try and get him involved in action and switch them up,

593
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: like Ted Trady said that earlier, So that could be

594
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: a thing worry But and then Kuzma's same thing. He

595
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: was sort of great in the seating games and sort

596
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: of you know, had his moments. He's doing the small things,

597
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: but hasn't really exploded offensively for the Lakers in the postseason.

598
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: So that's my that's my key. I'm watching MPJ and

599
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: Kuzma or is it somebody else that steps into that

600
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: third third wheel status. That's what I got my eyes

601
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: on it. If you have anything to add to that, guys, yeah,

602
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: you would.

603
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Speaker 1: Almost even say that Rondo was the third guy for

604
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers against the rock Woods, and you know, the benches.

605
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that the benches are gonna be huge

606
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: in this, but somebody's gonna have to play, and somebody's

607
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to show up and make some plays. Rondo

608
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: was instrumental actually getting the ball moving and stuff. So

609
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: we'll see if Jeremy Grant is able to have some

610
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: sort of an effect on Lebron. You know, he did

611
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: a lot better against Kawhi Leonard than I think people

612
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: were expecting myself, and Millsap doesn't have a long track

613
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: record of shutting down Lebron, but at least he knows

614
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: the tricks, at least he has the experience against them.

615
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: So if there's a way for the Nuggets to limit

616
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: the playmaking of Lebron, then Rondo's gonna have to step

617
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: up as well.

618
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So let's get to predictions task. Get

619
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Speaker 2: a started. Man, Lakers Nuggets, where are you going?

620
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Speaker 3: Mmmm? This one's uh, it's tough. I find it difficult

621
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: after watching the Nuggets perform at the level that they did.

622
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: But I think I'll take the Lakers in six. Okay,

623
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I know, I know that's probably the

624
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: popular pick, but I think, Yeah, the Lakers had been

625
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: such a good team from October till now. I just

626
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: don't see them letting up even three games against this

627
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: Nuggets team. A couple I think would be it would

628
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: be a good make for a good series for us

629
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Speaker 3: from a fans perspective, And I don't think even though

630
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: the Nuggets believe in themselves, I don't think that's anything

631
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: to shake your head at to get a couple of

632
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: games off the Lakers. So I'll take Lakers and six.

633
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: All right, Lea, what do you got.

634
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 6: Prior to the season starting, I picked Mike Malone to

635
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 6: be Coach of the Year, Jokic to be MVP, and

636
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 6: the Nuggets to go to the finals. Now, I forgot

637
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 6: all about that until until, like until they beat the

638
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 6: Clippers the other night, and I thought, why not hop

639
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 6: back on that wagon right now, because because it's like,

640
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 6: you know what, I actually believe the Nuggets are now

641
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 6: better than I thought they were when they were down

642
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 6: three to one against the Jazz. And I think that

643
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Speaker 6: you you sort of mentioned that they've got nothing to

644
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 6: lose here, there's no home court advantage, they're playing well.

645
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Speaker 6: This is what you want when you are a team

646
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 6: that's playing well. You just want those games to keep

647
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 6: coming back. So I'm going to take the Nuggets. And also,

648
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys saw, but the Denver

649
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 6: Nuggets tweeted yesterday everyone picking the Clippers and just and

650
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 6: they just said oops, and they did that. And so

651
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 6: it's kind of like when Task picked the when they

652
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 6: picked Task picked the Clippers a few years ago against

653
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 6: the Spurs. So I want to be that guy who's

654
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 6: like where it's just like Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, Nuggets, Lee,

655
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 6: it'd be like okay, but also so honestly, I'm actually

656
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 6: pulling for the Nuggets in this series, so I'm going

657
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 6: to back them. I'm going to tip them to win

658
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 6: it in six games. I think this is a huge

659
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 6: upset coming. I just want the Nuggets to win, so

660
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna pick them and hopefully my preseason prediction will

661
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 6: come true. I picked the Nuggets in the Bucks I

662
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 6: think is to make the final, So I've missed out

663
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 6: on that one. I've got this one here. Why not

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Speaker 6: let's have some fun.

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Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, Yeah, the Nuggets before this whole thing restarted up,

666
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: I think they were the seventh best odds to win

667
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: the finals, lead twenty two to one chance to win it.

668
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was to get there. I'm

669
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Speaker 2: sure a little bit less. But you're sticking with your

670
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Speaker 2: hummus Nuggets, man? Why not?

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Speaker 6: Why not? It's been fun watching them play, been fun

672
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 6: cheering them, and that hummus was beautiful, So I'm all

673
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 6: in on the Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: You know the problem with this prediction, though, is Lee

675
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: that Nuggets fans might get upset by it because what

676
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 2: was working was everybody picking against them, everybody calling them hummus,

677
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: everybody you know, just saying they were the appetizer to

678
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: the main chorus. But now you're like, you're showering them

679
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: with praise on.

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Speaker 6: My back for don't pick us. They're saying, don't pick us. Yeah,

681
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 6: they might, but I really do hope we get to

682
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 6: see the same team that we've seen these last three

683
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 6: games against the clip is fighting, hod playing fun basketball, fun, fun,

684
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 6: possible to watch, and really put it to the Lakers.

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00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: So give me the Nuggets. Yeah, okay, Wow, didn't see

686
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: that coming. I gotta be honest. So Le, he's got

687
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Nuggets in six tastas Lakers and six Trey Where do

688
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: you fink? Wow, the Cinderella Nuggets versus the we believe Lakers?

689
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: Who do you not believe in more?

690
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Speaker 1: You know, a couple of underdogs here really trying uh

691
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Speaker 1: to pull it off. The big thing for the Nuggets

692
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: in this series is they only have to win three games.

693
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Speaker 1: They're gonna win game one. That always happens. I know

694
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Speaker 1: Tasa is saying they're gonna come in fired up.

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00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: I doubt it.

696
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: I doubt it. The Lakers haven't played for six days.

697
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: Once this happens, the Nuggets will be waiting three days.

698
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: So that's one to oh up. Then you look at

699
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: the lineups that the Nuggets are gonna be rolling out,

700
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: Paul millsap. He looks over, he sees another Morris twin.

701
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Uh oh, there's another win for the Nuggets.

702
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Speaker 2: Now they only gotta win two games out of five.

703
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: This is easy Nuggets and seven Yeah yeah.

704
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: Me, Oh my goodness. You don't want pissed off Paul

705
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: out there? Man, Well, there's no way I'm picking the

706
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: Nuggets because they have peeved off, pissed off Paul. He's

707
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: playing Lebron James. It never goes well. He's never won

708
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: a playoff game versus Lebron James. He's oh to eight,

709
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: and you know the regular season is not that great either.

710
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: I am taking the Lakers. I love this though. I

711
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: love hearing these Nuggies picks, but I'm doing the opposite.

712
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: I want the Nuggets in the way. I'm rooting for

713
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: him now. But this is why I'm saying, Lakers in five,

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Speaker 2: I got no respect. I get out of here. Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: You're not You're not even worthy of hummus, you're not

716
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 2: even worthy of Yeah, I'm a little reverse psychology right

717
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: now because I would love to see them put up

718
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: a fight here. But I'm gonna go Lakers in five,

719
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Speaker 2: and I hope it continues to work picking against them.

720
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we all had them in the

721
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: first round moving on, but in the second one we

722
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: didn't think they were gonna beat the Clippers. That was

723
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Speaker 2: my team preseason, the Clippers to go to the finals,

724
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Speaker 2: and they made me look silly. But I'll say Lakers

725
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 2: in five. Tast has Lakers and six, and we got

726
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: some Nuggets boys up in here, Trego and Nuggets and six,

727
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: saying that would be what their fifth consecutive games seven

728
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Speaker 2: for the Nuggets if they do it, And then Lee

729
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: is saying Nuggets in six because it was his uh

730
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Speaker 2: well forgotten preseason pick. There was a thing he said once.

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Speaker 6: Upon time, and yeah, that's the thing I would have

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Speaker 6: if they went why not pull it out right now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. So this one gets underway

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Speaker 2: Friday night. I do believe Game one of the Western

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Speaker 6: Well, I think there's three storylines that came out of this.

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853
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 6: sixteen not a huge surprise all things considered how good

854
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 6: he was. So I'm going to move on from that

855
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 6: one pretty quickly and get to the more juicier ones,

856
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 6: and that is that two players who didn't make selection

857
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 6: for either team, Joel Embiid and Chris Middleton, both had

858
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 6: more total points votes than two players who did make

859
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 6: the third team in Ben Simmons and Russell Westbrook, but

860
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 6: because of the positions they played, they got in as

861
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 6: in Simmons and Westbrook got in over Middleton and Joel Embiid.

862
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 6: Now Joel Embiid pled three first team votes as well

863
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 6: and didn't get in, whereas Westbrook and Simmons hold none

864
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 6: of that first team. And then the other sort of

865
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 6: story point. The storyline is that Bradley Beal became the

866
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 6: first person ever to score average thirty points a game

867
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 6: for the season and not make any team at all.

868
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: So those are the two really big, sort of juicy

869
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 6: talking points. I think that came out of it yesterday,

870
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 6: and I really want to focus on the first one

871
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 6: more so. And you know, see what you guys think, like,

872
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 6: should we you know, scrap positions and just make it

873
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 6: the fifteen best players for the season because these awards

874
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 6: impact contracts and impact salaries and things like that. So

875
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 6: should that be what gets you in the first team

876
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 6: the most votes or should it be based on position?

877
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 6: Because for me, you know, I look at Russell Westbrook

878
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 6: and he had a good patch this season, but I

879
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 6: certainly wouldn't say he was all NBA more so than

880
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 6: what I saw from Chris Middleton throughout the season. In

881
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 6: my opinion, there, I thought you.

882
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: Had Westbrook in your MVP ballot. I don't think you

883
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: had Chris Middleton.

884
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 6: I had Westbrook in my MVP ballot.

885
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: I thought you had him had of Harden talking like

886
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: number five when we were going back to like the

887
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: restart era you were very excited about.

888
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: I may have. I may have.

889
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 6: I'm not sure about that. Yes, well, okay, well, okay,

890
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: I've got one of them wrong there. But the thing is,

891
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 6: I think I think over the course of the season,

892
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 6: Middleton was more consistent and more deserving, whereas Westbrook had

893
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 6: an incredible patch there. When did I say that? I

894
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 6: want to go and check that out. But that the

895
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 6: debate really is is that, I mean, should it be

896
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 6: fifteen best players versus.

897
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because and you're glossing over the biggest you know,

898
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: part of the Middleton thing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

899
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: He didn't make this because his votes were like split right.

900
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: People were voting for him for guard, people were voting

901
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: for him for forward, and for some reason, you can't

902
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 2: just combine them, you know. It's it's like the more

903
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: you got, whatever position you got more at, was the

904
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: one than they would focus on. And that's where he

905
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: came up short. That's insane. I mean, the guy got

906
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: he got enough votes tasked to get to get an

907
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: All NBA nod, But because of the ability act of

908
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: the you know, the sports writers and broadcasters to put

909
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: him at whatever position you wanted, actually hurt him in

910
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: the end. So that that is crazy that, I mean,

911
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: that should be fixed for sure.

912
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because of he's listed at forward. He had

913
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: to be slotted at a forward and even though he

914
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: had more points than Russell Westbrook and Ben Simmons to

915
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: our guards, he wasn't on the list, which is yeah,

916
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: it just doesn't make sense period. So I think, yeah,

917
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: the voting is very convoluted because of that. Maybe it's

918
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: just the five best players that would make more sense.

919
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: But I think the thing that Lee touched on there,

920
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: the fact that it affects how much these guys make

921
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: on pay checks is a little bokers. The media should

922
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: not be able to influence how much money these guys make.

923
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: So Ben Simmons gets an increase because he made the

924
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: third All NBA team even though he had less post

925
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: than Chris Middleton, Pascal Siakam gets an increase on his

926
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: pay because he made the second team. There, it just

927
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: doesn't make I think those the brackets of how guys

928
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: should be paid should just be brackets. I know that

929
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: it was sort of. I mean basically it's written in

930
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: like the you know, the Derrick Rose rule that guys

931
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: should get paid, the superstars should get paid more, stars

932
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: should get paid more, essentially, But I mean that's just

933
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: how you sign guys should be how you sign guys.

934
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: I think that's it's nuts to me that part, the

935
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: whole money thing, and then the voting, the voting thing

936
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: is also just Yeah, top fifteen guys kind of makes sense.

937
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: I understand that when people see their ballots, maybe they

938
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: want to be able to choose between a center and

939
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: wings and guards. But wings and guards are the same thing.

940
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: You know. It's like Chris Middleton, why shouldn't he regardless

941
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 3: of what you think about his season, he got more votes.

942
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense.

943
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: What do you think, Trey Well?

944
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: I think if we go top fifteen, Chris Middleton's not

945
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: getting in all NBA anyways. The biggest uh snub to

946
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: me is Embad should have been in there. Over go Bear.

947
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: He gives it to you. On both sides, it was

948
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: an underwhelming season for Joel Embiid. I had him as

949
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: a Defensive Player of the Year and MVP candidate. I

950
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: remember that. I remember feeling like a fool for that

951
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: for the majority of the season. But he did have

952
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: a good year, just not exactly what we were expecting

953
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: for Joel Embiid. The other weirdest thing about this is

954
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: that these are obviously based on pre bubble stats and

955
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: pre bubble happening, so they probably should have announced this

956
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: before we went in the bubble, so you don't have

957
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: things that look super weird like Russell Westbrook making an

958
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 1: All NBA team, Pascal Siakam making in it all NBA team.

959
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 2: Give it to us in June, give it to us.

960
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: In July, when you know that we're still focusing on

961
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: what happened the first four and a half months of

962
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: the season rather than these crazy seeding games in the playoffs.

963
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I know I've said west Westbrook for

964
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 6: most improved. I said I was making a case for that.

965
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 6: I definitely remember. I don't remember saying for MVP, but

966
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 6: I'm not I may be wrong. I just we got

967
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 6: to go.

968
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Check the team.

969
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got to check the tape. Yeah, because I

970
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 6: know I was making a weird case for him for

971
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 6: Most Improved because of the way he adjusted. He's gang And.

972
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember that I could have sworn you

973
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: had him in a top five MVP vote as well,

974
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 2: though what Trey was saying, But I know we say

975
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: a lot here exactly, That's right.

976
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like the fact that the first the

977
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: All NBA first Team, is indicative of most people's MVP

978
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: ballot though, like all those five guys were basically the

979
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: top five guys on MVP ballots regardless of positions, So

980
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 3: they hit a home run there. That's essentially the five

981
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: best players in the NBA this season had the most votes.

982
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 3: And then yeah, things get a little sticky going down

983
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: into the second team. Where as Trey brought up Pascal Siakam,

984
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: we all had on our All NBA teams. I do

985
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: believe when we picked them here in the hiatus, not

986
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 3: on our second team necessarily that Pascal made the second team.

987
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 3: But it is strange to look at it now for sure.

988
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: And then yeah, I'm always of the Hey, you got

989
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: to be able to do it on both ends to

990
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: be a top fifteen NBA player. It's just to beat

991
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: the fifteen best players in the world. I think you

992
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: got to be able to score at will and be

993
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: able to defend. And I definitely check the tape. I

994
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: would never I wouldn't pick Rudy go Bear over Joel

995
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: and b It's just, don't you have to be able

996
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: to score? Don't you have to be able to uh

997
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: not just dank and dump to get your buckets. You

998
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: got to be able to do it. But I don't know,

999
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: they're not bad. They're definitely not bad. They're not bad. No,

1000
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: it's not bad at all.

1001
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: No, there are like what you guys are saying. It

1002
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: looks weird now after the bubble, to have Tatum below Siakam,

1003
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: to have Butler below Siakam in terms of a ranking

1004
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: on all NBA teams, sure, but overall, Yeah, the Westbrook

1005
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: one is I was actually a little shocked. I mean

1006
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: it's a little surprising he actually still slipped in there

1007
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 2: and got on one of these. I mean, Lee is right.

1008
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: People are definitely forgetting the first half of the season

1009
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: when he was horrible and are focusing, you know, really

1010
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: on that when we got into the new calendar year,

1011
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: when he sort of took over there for a couple

1012
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: of months and was very special had Lee had him

1013
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: in his top five lists we think for everyway. Yeah,

1014
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: Oud of somewhere had him in the running for some awards.

1015
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know that happens still all the time.

1016
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: But that's what's interesting about that Isak I'm still making

1017
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: an All NBA second team. He's like the flip of

1018
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: Westbrook because he was really really good at the start

1019
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: of the year, and Peter Dooff as the year went on.

1020
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: You know, I thought looked less and less like an

1021
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: All NBA player as the season went on. But people,

1022
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: you know, they like to remember the beginning. And of

1023
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 2: course the Raptors had a great record. That comes into

1024
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 2: play too. There's no doubt when people are making their teams.

1025
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: So a two from you guys, are you upset by

1026
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: these at all? Sounds like a lot of you guys

1027
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: probably want like an embid in there.

1028
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1029
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: Beal's interesting guy. Averages thirty points per game. Do you

1030
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: care with all NBA teams whether the team has any

1031
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: real success?

1032
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 6: I think it's the team itself as well. I think

1033
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 6: it's the Wizards. I mean, you know, yeah, no one

1034
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 6: really cared at all about the Wizards this season. That

1035
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 6: was probably the quietest thirty point per game average we've

1036
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 6: seen for such a long time, because I was scoring

1037
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty points and raising sometimes. So I

1038
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 6: think that absolutely plays into it. And you know, I

1039
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 6: hope Bill can find his way to a team where

1040
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 6: he gets his skills recognized a little bit more, because

1041
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 6: you know, I think he's sort of wasting away there

1042
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 6: in Washington. So hopefully, you know, he will sort of

1043
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 6: see this and look at it for a chance to

1044
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 6: try to go somewhere else, and you know, because otherwise

1045
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 6: this is the sort of thing that's going to get

1046
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 6: ignored and this you know, these are the sorts of

1047
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 6: things that add up at the end of your career,

1048
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 6: all nbavior positions. So yeah, I mean he was disappointed.

1049
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 6: There was this couple of tweets flying around last night.

1050
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 6: They were great everyone. You know, that's what you want

1051
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 6: to see, some people getting in on it like that.

1052
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, I was disappointed for him, but I didn't

1053
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 6: also expect him to make it simply because of how

1054
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 6: deep it was at the guard position.

1055
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: Anyway, it was sort of cool is that we had

1056
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: some like new names in the mix. I like that

1057
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: because we were missing like a Curry we're missing a

1058
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: Durant or missing a Kyrie. Those guys are steeples usually

1059
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: right for one of the all NBA spots. So you know,

1060
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: you take them out and you got some new blood

1061
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: in there, and that's always fun. Got some first time honories.

1062
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: But you know, Bradley Beal, Trey or excuse me Lee,

1063
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: you know, so where do you draw the line?

1064
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: Too?

1065
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: Like Trey Young had unbelievable numbers, incredible numbers, and it's like,

1066
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: you know, Hackston win a ton of games. It's like,

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00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: was do you just believe Bial's a better player than

1068
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: Trey Young at this point in their careers? Sure? Possibly

1069
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: would so that that, you know, vaults him above him?

1070
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: Or should they be equal because they have all these

1071
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: monster numbers or the numbers don't mean anything because it's like, yeah,

1072
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: they're playing a high offense, octane offense. There's not a

1073
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: lot of defense teammate winning. You can go a million

1074
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: different ways with this, but if you want to say

1075
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: someone was snubbed, you got to remove someone, right. That's

1076
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: the thing. You can't just say, well, what about blank?

1077
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: He should be on there? Okay, Well who you taking off?

1078
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: That's why he's got to be So if you're letting

1079
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: us know on Twitter at No Dunk Sink, you're emailing

1080
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 2: in No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. You say

1081
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: somebody snubbed, somebody has to come off. I assume in

1082
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: a lot of cases it would be a Westbrook, maybe

1083
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: a Simmons. What Simmons Gobert, Like you.

1084
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 6: Said, all NBA First Team defense and deserving, So so

1085
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 6: I think he's deserving of all NBA myself.

1086
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: You think Simmons is better than Jowell Embiard to the

1087
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 2: success that they had this.

1088
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 6: Year, probably this season, yes, probably. I mean it's that

1089
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 6: debate honestly changes week to week though you see one

1090
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 6: of they have a great week, yeah, and the other

1091
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 6: one kind of has a bit of a stinker and

1092
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 6: Simmons maybe doesn't take the shot, and then and you

1093
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 6: know embiid has a big game, so it's on embid

1094
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 6: And so that's just a fascinating story right there, and

1095
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 6: how that continues next season. But I think that's a thing. Defensively,

1096
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 6: they're both very very good, but offensively they both also

1097
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 6: struggle at times. And Bee's clearly a better shooter of

1098
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 6: the ball, but his Simmons a better creator and is

1099
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 6: he not playing with the right players? Not sure?

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00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: All right? All rookie teams. On Tuesday they were announced.

1101
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: We got a first and second team, so they don't

1102
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: do a third team for this. John Moran and Zion

1103
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: Williamson unsurprisingly headlined the list here. First team John Moran,

1104
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: Kendrick Nunne of the Heat, Brandon Clark another Grizzly Zon,

1105
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: and Eric Pascal of the Golden State Warriors. Second team

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00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: Taylor Hero, Terrence Us the second from the Raps, Kobe

1107
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: White from the Bulls. Here you go, tray some good news.

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Speaker 1: For the things are turning around already.

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00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: That's right. PJ. Washington of the Hornets and Rui Hachimura

1110
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Speaker 2: of the Wizards. Those are your ten all rookies. I'm

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00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: not going to ask you for snubs when it comes

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Speaker 2: to these because I find it's silly test, but any

1113
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 2: thoughts or observations from the ten guys the NBA ultimately

1114
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: decided on.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's two members of the Miami Heat amongst those

1116
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: ten guys, and Tyler Hero and Kendrick nunn the only

1117
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: team to have more than one rep. I think that

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00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: just speaks to the culture of bringing guys along even

1119
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: when they're rooks, to throw them into the system to

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Speaker 3: get them ready to play. They're actually they actually have

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00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: only the representatives from any of the playoff teams remaining.

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Speaker 3: Of all these all rookie teams, the Heat only are

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Speaker 3: the ones that have guys. I think they're both in

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00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: the rotation right now. Kendrick Nunn doesn't have it going

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00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: quite yet, but it wouldn't be surprising. He's the only

1126
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: guy in the Heat rotation doesn't really have it going on.

1127
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: That wouldn't surprising if he just gets it going tonight

1128
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: against the Celtics, because that's how good they are at

1129
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: empowering their youth, at given these kids minutes and getting

1130
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: them involved. And I think overall the voters did well

1131
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: not to bring up the snub thing. But the only

1132
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 3: guy I guess that people would talk about not being

1133
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 3: on is RJ Barrett because he's a number three pick.

1134
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: But at the same time, r J. Barrett don't worry

1135
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: about it. I think of all the of all the

1136
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: all accolades, with the all NBA very important, all defense important,

1137
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: all rookie not important, no one, no one goes back

1138
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: on a resume and thinks, oh man, that guy didn't

1139
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: make the All Rookie team. Don't worry about it.

1140
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: R J.

1141
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: Barrett will be fine. He's you know, he's got to

1142
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: work on his game and get better. But it's nothing

1143
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: to scoff at. And I think the list is good.

1144
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: You don't have to go any deeper than RJ. Barrett

1145
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: and get upset. That's it. Top headline top ten are

1146
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: pretty solid.

1147
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: One thing I know to hear you talking about the

1148
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: all NBA teams Lee with the positions, there's not a

1149
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: center in the mix here. They don't care at all

1150
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: when it comes to all rookies, So why don't we

1151
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: care all that much about all NBA teams. Who's the

1152
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: biggest guy in this mix? From these ten guys? It's like,

1153
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: is it Zion?

1154
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: Is it?

1155
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: I guess that's like the and and a Canadian.

1156
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: You guys got to like Brandon Clark Moore, I think.

1157
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: And how dare they put Eric Paskell over PJ. Washington

1158
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: on the first team? Are you kidding me? This is ridiculous.

1159
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 6: Washington hit nine threes in these first games.

1160
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: It's a mystery. Did he happened so long ago?

1161
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: But you had PJ. Washington in your top ten.

1162
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: Skeets I'm surprise you're not advocating for Lou Dort here

1163
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: the Dort.

1164
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: Nug Well Dort would uh yeah, if bubble play counting

1165
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: for these I think Dort does get in there for sure.

1166
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: He'd be taking somebody's spot, probably like Terrence Davis maybe,

1167
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 2: or maybe even a Kobe or something like that.

1168
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 6: Terrence Sdyvis. I know he's an old rookie, but it

1169
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 6: feels like he's been in the league a lot longer

1170
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 6: than just this first season. You know, it just maybe

1171
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 6: it's just because this season is going on forever, but

1172
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 6: he doesn't feel like a rookie.

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00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, this season felt like I started years ago, and

1174
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: that's why Eric Pascal felt like he was good fourteen

1175
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: years ago. But he's a rookie and he came on

1176
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: the scene and then kind of faded away a little

1177
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: bit towards the end. Yeah, but nobody cares. I mean,

1178
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: he made the All Rookie team. That's good.

1179
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: Nobody cares.

1180
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: The Rookie of the Year, fine, that's the award he

1181
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 3: won as a rook but the All NBA. No, but

1182
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 3: a rookie. No one goes back and says that's unfortunate. No,

1183
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 3: he the second old rookie team.

1184
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 2: This season has been basically a year long where what

1185
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: a month a month from when we last started, you know,

1186
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: for a full calendar year. That's how long we've been going. Well,

1187
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: let's hear from you. You got any any snubs, anything

1188
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: you want to say about the all rookie teams? Or

1189
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: are you like us, you don't really care all that much?

1190
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: Let us know, let us know. All right, we got

1191
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Speaker 2: to take one more quick break here, and then we

1192
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 2: got Lee's top five.

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Speaker 2: All right, time for the top five question, Marrik, how

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Speaker 2: many will it be.

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Speaker 1: To ton by top Bye top Babe?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, So that big block from Bam out of

1225
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 6: bio on Jason Tatum sparked quite a bit of debate

1226
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 6: online and David Aldridge, I think was the first one

1227
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 6: who kind of put out a ranking of his top

1228
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 6: five playoff locks, and then a lot of other people

1229
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 6: have done it, and so I tried to come up

1230
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 6: with a slightly different angle on this because we've all

1231
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 6: seen the Reggie Miller, the Titian Prince on Reggie Miller,

1232
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 6: Kim Elijah one on John Starks, and of course lebron

1233
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 6: on Andrea Goodala. We all know about that. So I've

1234
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 6: come up with five locks that I think were significant

1235
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 6: at the time but have been forgotten. Oh okay, so

1236
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 6: if you guys can remember these ones, now, we just

1237
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 6: playoff blocks or playoff blocks only. Yes, yes, now this

1238
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 6: is just five. It's not five four three two one

1239
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 6: in that sense, because it's hard to rank these ones.

1240
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 6: And I don't see what you guys think at the

1241
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 6: end anyway, Okay. Game six, the twenty fourteen West Finals,

1242
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 6: the San Antonio Spurs are up three to two in

1243
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 6: the series and up one with about twenty seconds to go,

1244
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 6: and the Thunder get a fast break and Russell Westbrook

1245
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 6: is going down for a fast break to lay it

1246
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 6: up to put the Thunder up by one, and Kawhi

1247
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 6: Leonard does this incredible swat where he kind of gets

1248
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 6: him from behind and over the top and steals the

1249
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 6: ball and the Spurs go back down and seal the

1250
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 6: game and win the series. Now that one's an incredible one.

1251
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 6: I wanted to go and check that one out because

1252
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 6: it's sort of forgotten, but it's a classic Kawhi like

1253
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 6: Westbrook sort of gets beats him and Kawhi sort of

1254
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 6: steals it from over his head or yeah, so that

1255
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 6: was a great block. I thought, Okay, now I hate

1256
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 6: myself for this one. I hate myself for this one,

1257
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 6: and Skeeze, you will hate me for it as well.

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Speaker 6: Game seven of the East first Round twenty fourteen, the

1259
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 6: Raptors down by one in overtime Byle Lowry gets the

1260
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 6: ball inside, he gets it, he gets a good, clean

1261
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 6: sort of release of the ball. He's in the paint

1262
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 6: there and Paul Pierce of everyone locks his flotor.

1263
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: I like to pretend in my mind that Kyle just

1264
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: misses the Shiney doesn't work it.

1265
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Speaker 6: Because he commenced that. I mean, he gets it pretty

1266
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 6: much off just as Lowry releases it. But he's so close.

1267
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 6: I'm like looking at the overhead camera on that and

1268
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 6: I'm thinking, like that's in if he gets that off

1269
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Speaker 6: that's going in.

1270
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Speaker 2: They like the trajectory.

1271
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's still it's very very close, just

1272
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 6: out of his hand. But the way I looked at

1273
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 6: it, and I'm like, I reckon that just bounced in almost

1274
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 6: like Kawhi Leonard just caught the rim bounce off the

1275
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 6: backboard and dropped in. And imagine the Raptors have won

1276
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 6: that series, you know, because they lose Game one. They

1277
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 6: played badly, and then it was Paul Pierce, of all people,

1278
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 6: Paul Ye anyway hurts Game six of the twenty thirteen finals.

1279
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 6: We all remember, of course the Ray Allen three. But

1280
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 6: following that, oh yeah, Chris Bosh has a very very

1281
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 6: big block on Danny Green. Now Danny Green's kind of

1282
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 6: falling out of bounds. It's like a it's a it's

1283
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 6: a low percentage shot, but you just never know if

1284
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 6: that goes in, you know, and Chris Chris Botch doesn't

1285
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 6: foul him, which I think is really important.

1286
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: There.

1287
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 6: It's a very very good block. So I think that

1288
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 6: one kind of gets forgotten because we all see the

1289
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 6: rail and three, but the game is not over. Then

1290
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 6: that's not like a buzzer beating three. The Spurs had

1291
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 6: a chance to at least tie that game, and Chris

1292
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 6: Bosh's defense was incredible without failing. So I thought that

1293
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 6: was good.

1294
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. I'll tell you one guy that didn't

1295
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: forget that block, Chris Bosh, because he took bam Adebayo's

1296
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: block and took that block and split screen them and

1297
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 3: put him up on his Instagram piece Wow comparing the two.

1298
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 6: So I did not see that anyway. Now this one,

1299
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: I thought this next one was the closest to the

1300
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 6: bam blocking Jason Tatum from the other night. And it's

1301
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 6: Game six of the twenty thirteen East Semis and it's

1302
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 6: Roy Hibbert on Carmelo Anthony. Now there's about five minutes

1303
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 6: to go in this game, but I think it was

1304
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 6: more symbolic of that moment that, you know, Mellow tries

1305
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 6: to dunk it, Roy Hibbert blocks it and the Pacers

1306
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 6: going to win that game, and it was an upset

1307
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 6: in that series. The Knicks were the favorite in that series,

1308
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 6: and I think that was just kind of pretty much

1309
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 6: that sort of summed up that series. That was when

1310
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 6: Hibbert was at his peak.

1311
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: It was very.

1312
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 6: And when I were looking back at that one as well,

1313
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 6: Mellow's very much like Tatum. The ball is over the cylinder,

1314
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 6: but Hibbert's enormous hand prevents it from going in. And

1315
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 6: that's just kind of the way you remember like the

1316
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 6: Knicks from there. Just I don't think they led after that,

1317
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 6: and that was the last time they were in the playoffs.

1318
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: So I'm loving this. Let's breaking it down here.

1319
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 6: Now, Tray, You've had a bad day, but I've got

1320
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 6: one here for you. A savior Game six of the

1321
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 6: two thousand and nine first round Bulls and Celtics. Now,

1322
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 6: of course we remember that game. That was the triple

1323
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 6: overtime game. The Bulls are up by one with about

1324
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 6: ten seconds ago, it gets to about five seconds ago.

1325
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 6: Rajon Rondez in the lane fakes out Derek Rose. Rose

1326
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 6: recovers and blocks that shot, saves the game. The Bulls

1327
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 6: going to win that game. Of course, they lose that series,

1328
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 6: but that was that was an incredible block from Rose

1329
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 6: because Rondo's kind of beating him and he comes back

1330
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 6: and he gets that really clean block and then the ball.

1331
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 6: There's enough time for the Celtics to recover, but Rose,

1332
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 6: I think it is, actually gathers the ball and runs

1333
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 6: out the clock. So a great game, great finish to

1334
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 6: that game for Chicago. That was an incredible series. So

1335
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 6: so yeah, there you go. There's five flocks that I

1336
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 6: think have been the great. Yeah, and they were significant

1337
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 6: playoff moments.

1338
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: So go check them out there, you go. Yeah, da,

1339
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: you're right. Definitely was the first one out there to

1340
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: have his top five playoff blocks of all time, and

1341
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: then everybody else was doing it. Like you said, I

1342
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: like that, and he's a little wrinkle to that because otherwise,

1343
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it really is like it's like five or

1344
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: six of the same ones over and over, as at

1345
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: least three or four of the same one over and over,

1346
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: because they were that impressive. Like you said, you listed

1347
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: them right off the top there. But those are good.

1348
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: Now you're refreshing my memory somehow. You can remember those,

1349
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: but you can't remember what you said about.

1350
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 6: No. I think I just justis most improved anyway. But

1351
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 6: do you like the resistance I showed by not putting

1352
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 6: in the manager and nobly on James.

1353
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: Harden, Yes, yes, for sure.

1354
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 6: Because I was gonna I was gonna say, you know what,

1355
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 6: this playoffs, these playoffs in the bubble, we've had four

1356
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 6: incredible blocks. We've had hardened on door it. Yep, we've

1357
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 6: had Norm Power, Marcus Smart on Norm Powell in Game seven,

1358
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 6: that fast break dunk with of course Bam and Jay

1359
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 6: Tatum and and what was the and then the quite

1360
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 6: the middle finger block on Jamal Murray. So yeah, it's

1361
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 6: been a great playoff series for block shots.

1362
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: And that's funny because we were talking about there has

1363
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: been a lot of posters like dunks and I'm being huge, huge,

1364
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: huge dunks in the bubble, but we are getting the blocks. Great.

1365
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 2: Lest loved it. I'm sure the fans loved it. How

1366
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: much work did you put in that leak?

1367
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 6: More than you probably think, because once you go down

1368
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 6: those YouTube rabbit holes, you start finding all sorts of dunks,

1369
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 6: all sorts of blocks, and I want to add a

1370
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 6: few more in there, but you know, I slipped a

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01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 6: few extras in it.

1372
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 2: Love it? Okay, great stuff?

1373
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 6: Sorry sorry, Actually one more thing, one more thing. This

1374
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 6: is another thing I found. I went all CSI on

1375
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 6: one famous block that we think as a block, but

1376
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 6: is it actually a block? I wonder if you guys

1377
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 6: know what I'm talking about here. It's Game five, nineteen

1378
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 6: ninety three, Bulls Clip Bulls.

1379
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 7: Nicks, Oh Bulls Knicks and it's the Charles Charles Smith. Yeah,

1380
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 7: Scotty Pippen gets credited for the block, but according to

1381
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 7: Basketball Reference, Scotty Pippen has zero blocks that day. And

1382
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 7: when I went back and looked at it, Charles Smith

1383
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 7: kind of fumbles the first ice, Jordan strips him the

1384
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 7: second time, and then there's that one Pippen. You sort

1385
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 7: of see him contest it, but I think he actually

1386
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 7: just loses possession of it, Charles Smith. So Pippen doesn't

1387
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 7: actually block it.

1388
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: Ye, people do, but people do credit him for that

1389
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 2: by you're right lost it first? Yeah, team block, Yeah.

1390
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: It's gotta be Yeah, But I do appreciate the CSI.

1391
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: The Charles Smith investigation very good.

1392
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: I agree, Workley. Tonight, we got a game back on

1393
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: our network here, East Finals Scheme two don ESPN seven pm,

1394
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: Eastern seven pm. What are you laughing about there.

1395
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 3: You network?

1396
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1397
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know why I said that. Just took me

1398
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: back to Starter's days there. Yes, I thought it was

1399
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: on NBA TV.

1400
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: Wow, they're putting the Eastern Conference Finals on NBA TV.

1401
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: Who didn't see that? Come digit? Yeah, no, game two,

1402
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: but it's on seven o'clock, so we get the earlier start.

1403
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: Heat of course took Game one, you know, over times

1404
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: thanks to Jimmy Butler and bam Adebio's late heroics, including

1405
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: that huge, huge block there from bam On Tatum's dn't attempt.

1406
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: But let's end this podcast with something you're watching for

1407
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: in game two, Trey, why don't you get to start

1408
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: with something you're zeroing in on tonight? Beantown be better.

1409
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 2: That's my main thing.

1410
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: The Celtics have to be better in transition defense, I

1411
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: think is number one, because the Heat were able to

1412
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: get on tracked the most when Gordon Drags was kind

1413
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: of running wild out there, saying with Tyler here at once,

1414
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: Miami was able.

1415
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: To push the pace.

1416
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: That was their most efficient scoring for me, and that

1417
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: was something we didn't really see in the Celtics series

1418
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: versus the Raptors. We know that Boston is capable of

1419
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: playing transition defense. They just need to do it. And

1420
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: then on the flip side for the Celtics, if this

1421
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: is a close game in the fourth quarter, they got

1422
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: to do a little bit more on offense. They got

1423
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: to have a little bit more ball movement and a

1424
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: little less one on one play. They've got some great

1425
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: isolation players in Tatum and Kemba Walker, but they're at

1426
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: their best when the ball is moving, when they're getting shots,

1427
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: when they're getting in a wide open corner. Three for

1428
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown in the corner. So there are things that

1429
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: the Celtics can improve on. I would say by ten percent, right,

1430
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: just a little bit better in transition defense and a

1431
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: little bit better in clutch offense. That flips the game

1432
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: if you're playing in an overtime scenario for sure, task what.

1433
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: About yourself, Well, the Celtics got to get Kemba Walker

1434
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: going a little bit. I just wonder if Brad Stevens

1435
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: changes it up just to get him off the ball

1436
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: a little bit more as he did in the Raptors series,

1437
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: a touch, just to get him not having to carry

1438
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: the offense as much. And also just think a little

1439
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 3: bit less Kemba come around this down screen, hit this shot.

1440
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: You don't have to create absolutely everything, because if Kemba

1441
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: gets going, bad news for the Miami Heat. Because Jason

1442
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 3: Tatum is the best offensive player in this series still,

1443
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 3: and he was going even though he did play a

1444
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 3: lot of Tyler hero type ball at the end of

1445
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 3: that game where it was a lot of isolation. I

1446
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: wonder if the Heat try and change it up a

1447
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 3: little bit on him because he was going so well.

1448
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 3: Probably not. They probably just try and guard him one

1449
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 3: on one, and they probably continue to let Marcus Smart

1450
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 3: shoot and hope that he doesn't hit six threes. It's

1451
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, they'll always say, hey, we gotta get out

1452
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: to the shooters. We've got to get out to the shooters.

1453
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: But I think they're good just going to let Marcus

1454
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: Smart go and continue to take away Jason Tatum and

1455
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 3: Kemba Walker with the eyes of bam Ate Bio sneaking

1456
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: over there at all times, and Marcus Smart will have

1457
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 3: the ability to keep rifling, and if he continues to

1458
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 3: hit five or six threes, you'd think that really really

1459
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 3: favors the Celtics. But I don't know. You never know

1460
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 3: what Marcus Smart. You never know what you're gonna get.

1461
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 3: Is it going to be a three, is it going

1462
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: to be a flop? He could do both on the

1463
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 3: same possession and they both could get calls. Who knows.

1464
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: Looking forward to seeing if the Heat change anything defensively,

1465
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 3: because they're just so fun to watch on defense.

1466
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 6: Lee what do you got Coming into the series. I

1467
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 6: wondered how the Celtics would defend the Miami three point shooting.

1468
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 6: The Heat went sixteen for thirty six forty four percent

1469
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 6: in Game one. Then he will take that that's a

1470
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 6: pretty good percentage. And they're knocking down quite a few there,

1471
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 6: and they got contributions from everybody, you know, like you

1472
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 6: talk about the Celtics there, I mean, Marcus Smart hit six,

1473
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 6: Jason Tatum hit four, but other than that, no one

1474
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,959
Speaker 6: else really hit any for the Celtics, Whereas the Heat

1475
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 6: got threes from Butler Crowder, Dragich Robinson, Igle Dala, Kendrick

1476
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 6: Nunn and Tyler Hero. So that to me, I think

1477
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 6: is the key to the Heat offense is when they're

1478
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 6: getting contributions from everyone coming off the bench. And Duncan

1479
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 6: Robinson had a pretty bad game is in for our trouble,

1480
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 6: but he still contributed and that is key I think

1481
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 6: for Miami. If they can keep those threes going down,

1482
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 6: that really does open things up for them, especially as

1483
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 6: Obam Mattabayo. I mean, he had nine assists in this game,

1484
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 6: so he knows how to find he shoot. Is if

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Speaker 6: the hate if the Celtics try to get him doubled

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Speaker 6: or anything like that. He's gonna find those guys to

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Speaker 6: shoot him. And if they're knocking them down, I think

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Speaker 6: at five is the heat.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hopefully it's another great game, just like game one.

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Speaker 2: All right, fun podcast here, We'll have to check the

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Speaker 2: tape on what Lee said about Westbrook. That could take

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Speaker 2: all day, but we will be back tomorrow morning and

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Speaker 2: join us live on YouTube at ten am Eastern. Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first.

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Speaker 1: Have a great time, turn up love guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember bam Adebayo has the

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Speaker 3: strongest risks in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people.

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Speaker 4: You could stay boo every day and dad be happy

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Speaker 4: every minute. It's been so long that your the funa wait.

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Speaker 3: For its happened already.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be goody