WEBVTT - Butch Harmon: Masters Q&A 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.640 It's the son of a Butch podcast. It's Master's Week 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:13.640 and episode two of Bush Harmon talking about the Masters. 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:17.319 Put up some questions last week and it's kind of 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.840 a ask Butch segment. He's gonna answer your questions. Got 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.759 some really good questions, and um, I think everybody will 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.599 be Um, yeah, I think they'll be maybe a little 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.640 surprised by his answers. But um, anytime you can get 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.600 you know, someone like him, his takes, um and get 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:37.879 an opportunity for him to answer your questions. Um, I 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.000 think it's invaluable on him. I mean, his takes on 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.120 the game on Augusta and um, you know, just his 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.320 life in general. Always good to listen to him. So 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:52.080 sit back and enjoy episode two of The Master's Pregame 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:59.400 show with Butch Harmon. I put some questions up and 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:05.679 so these dad are the fans questions. Had a bunch 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:11.640 of people ask me what is your personal favorite Master's moment? 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.040 Oh my gosh, I would have to say Tiger in 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.880 ninety seven when he won. The reason being I always 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.280 told Tiger when he was younger, the beauty of Tiger 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.480 Woods was. He loved to hear about the old timers 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.200 what how'd your dad do this? Hogan Nelson sneeen. We were. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.600 I mean you always had him playing practice rounds with 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.360 Raymond Floyd and guys that had won there before. And 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.600 you know, my dad won by five and he said 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.760 it was the greatest feeling in the world walking up 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.039 to seventy second hold with a five shot lead because 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.479 he knew he couldn't lose. And I remember when Tiger 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.280 was just a teenager and we were talking about this. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.080 I said, you know, Sunday, that's going to happen to you. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.160 Well in ninety seven, I can remember standing behind the 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.080 eighteenth green and he's breaking the record and He's went 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.600 in by his zillion shots and I'm standing back there 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.040 and it was kind of overcast, but I had my 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.440 sunglasses on because I had tears in my eyes. I'm 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.640 thinking to myself, obvious some bits. I told this kid 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.400 that this is going to happen to him someday, and 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.760 arey cops. And it just did my heart good to 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.600 see it, because I know how much it meant to 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.520 my father the way he did it. And people don't 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.480 realize when you come to the last hole of a 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.160 big lead, it's it's there's so much relief off your 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.760 shoulders and being tied or one at one back or 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.600 one in front. So that part to me was really special. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.080 And then obviously eighty six when Jack Nicholas one was 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:31.360 pretty oppressive. I've told this story before and but it 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.480 you talked about having a big lead DJ when he 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.840 won there, you know, he said he didn't look at 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.639 any of the leader boards, and there aren't a lot 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.359 of leaderboards like there are at PGA Tour events where 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.640 there's pretty much leaderboards in every hole. So if you 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.119 really don't want to look, you can kind of not look. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:48.880 And he hit it in that bunker, and he hit 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.200 it and he said to AJ, so walking up to 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.280 eighteen hold, he said, are we leading? I mean, am 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:55.840 I in the lead? Don't have a big lead in? 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.240 AJ said, probably got like a three shot lead. Even 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.280 I can't miss this out. I may have to I 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.360 love DJ, but I may have to sell the bullshit 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.520 flag on that. I guarantee he knew where he stood 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.120 coming up seventy seconds. There's no way he didn't know. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.639 And I guarante, and I guarantee you you give Austin 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.560 a three shot leave in the middle of that fairway, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.640 he's gonna struggle to make par. I can tell you 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.440 that he was playing and had three shot lead to 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:24.280 be struggling to breathe A you kidney, Um, what's a 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.600 lot of people ask this, what's your favorite hole at Augusta? 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.200 When I when I play there in my favorite hole 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.600 is the twelfth The reason being is I get to 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.320 walk through the green, go to the tournament. He never 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.720 get to go over that, so well, that's that's true. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.480 I mean, you get over When we were my brothers 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.280 and I were playing in November, we get over the 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.680 green and hey, guys, look back waving all the people 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.800 back there, even though there was nobody there. That isn't 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.360 I mean last year I went and played um when 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.160 DJ was defending champion. Um, I'd never been on the 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.440 golf course and he went up and did a little 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.280 scouting mission, you know, the week before, and like you, 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.040 like you said, I had never been onto So I 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.880 didn't play, but I got to walk around. I'd never 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.120 been on to the twelfth green. And when you actually 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.960 when you actually get down to that part of the 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.280 golf course, when you get down to eleven, when you 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.279 get down to twelve, that entire part of the golf course. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:21.000 Dad has a completely different field than the rest of 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.159 the golf course because because it is one of the 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.120 places in the tournament when you go and if you're 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.960 lucky enough to watch that, you can never get anywhere 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.880 close to you can't. Also, I think the interesting thing 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.560 about the eleventh green is when you look at all 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.840 of the things around the eleventh Green, the undulations of 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.440 the approach shots, of the chip shots that jefta. But 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.200 when you get on the twelfth green, I think people 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.039 would be absolutely floored by how small it is. It 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:54.560 is a tiny, tiny green. Well, the beauty of twelve 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.039 is and the old timers will tell you because the 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.240 wind comes down there whips it around. It's why you'll 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.840 see a guy hit a shot that he thinks he's 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:03.560 hit a really good shot and he gets hit with 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.040 a gust and the ball goes in the middle of 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.159 the lake with like an eight iron or nine iron. People, so, 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.200 how the hell can that happen? And it's coming if 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.520 they're doing that, it's coming up sometimes twenty yards short. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.479 Oh yeah, So I mean that's not they hit a 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.800 bad shot, that's the wind. But the old timers will 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.640 tell you and you'll watch the guy that have been 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.840 there forever. You can see the flag on twelve going 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.360 one way, but they look over their left shoulder till 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.600 eleven because the flag on eleven is the true direction 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.000 the winds going above the trees, because eleven is not 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.039 in there with all those trees. It's exposed so you 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.600 can see it. But still it's it is. I would 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.799 say over the bunker where you probably should play everyone. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.120 If you hit in the middle of the green every time, 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.520 you'd be the happiest guy on the course. It's probably 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.000 not even thirty feet deep because it's it's very narrow, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.279 and it's just a great hole. It just shows you 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.880 that these modern part threes that are two hundred and 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.760 twenty two iron and thirty yards or a joke, because 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.320 this isn't even one hundred and fifty yards long, and 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.719 it kicks the butt of the best in the world 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.520 because it's so tricky the way the wind blows down there. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.640 That's why it's my favorite hole in the whole court. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.880 It's not only to play, but to watch it during 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.920 the tournament. This was an interesting question that someone asked, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:15.080 what's the most difficult shot at Augusta during the tournament 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.960 that nobody talks about, that they're not constantly talking about 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.200 all the time. What is the shot that you say 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.920 that having played there, having been there for pretty much 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.919 the majority of your life, and then having commentated, what 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.840 is a shot that the viewers can say, Okay, this 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.279 is a hole that you wouldn't think, this is a 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.839 difficult one. But if a guy has this and is 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:40.039 able to get this fifteen twenty feet, they're literally sprinting 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.200 to go mark their ball without a shot to drive 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.520 off the first team. The anxiety that's going through these guys. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.480 Think about the Great Tiger Woods, some of the worst 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.080 drives he's ever hit at Augusta on the first team. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.120 It's not because he's nervous. It's just he's so anched up. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.640 He's like a horse in the starting gate a Kentucky Derby. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.920 He's ready to go and drive. You watch some of 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:03.760 the best players in the world hit some of the 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.560 worst drives you've ever seen in your life. It's amazing 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.520 how many times they're playing out of the left trees 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.400 or even the ninth fairway. Sometimes you know, because that 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.440 bunker on the right is very deep when you hit 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.239 it and bunker, it's hard to get it to the green. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.840 And I think that's the shot that I know who 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.760 it's surprised your viewer who asked the question. I think 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.480 the hard shot is the one you hit up the 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.480 first tea, which sounds ridiculous for the best players in 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.840 the world, but look at how many bad drives we see. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.560 I think another one that you hear the guys talk 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.840 about again if you've never been there, the layoup on fifteen. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.720 If you don't go for that green into where you 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.280 lay that ball up, I mean it is on a 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.720 straight down slope. Here's the interesting thing where people don't 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.160 realize when they see a guy dump of eighty ninety 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.320 yard wedge shot into the water. First of all, you're 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.240 hitting off the severe down slope and the greens above you. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.440 I know it's hard to believe, but the green is 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.800 up a little higher. The only flash spot you hit 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.560 is if you hit. If you're lay it up, you 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.600 lay it up way to the left over there, you 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.200 have a chance. But then if the pins over there 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.120 on the left and you know you don't want to 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.560 get it down there, you don't want that sixty fifty 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.240 sixty seventy yards shot off that dam. You'd be better 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.000 off back up on the hill where you get hit 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.000 a nine iron or something and have a better chance. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.240 It's one of the coolest wedge shots ever. I can 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.280 remember a couple of years ago when Billy and I 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.840 were playing there. I came to that hall and I 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.360 was I was only like four over part I was 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:28.960 having a good day, and I said, oh my gosh, 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.239 I got a great chance to shoot my age today. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.040 And you know, seventy nine now, so I would have 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.080 been seventy seven or what else. And then I said, 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.640 I'm only like four over or something, and I laid 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.040 it up perfect. I'm still on the hall. I haven't finished. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:46.000 I put some walls in the water, so there goes that. Well. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.959 The other thing that I don't think people realize is 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.640 when you do lay it up, regardless when the pins 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.679 on the right hand side or when the pins down 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.839 their front left, you hit it over that green, and 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:57.920 it is you can chip it or put it in 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:02.760 the water in a heartbeat, because it's so severe that 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.400 slope going back from if you're over that green, it 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.920 is so severe that you're scared to death of running 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.679 it past. So then you lay the sawt over it 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.839 and don't even get it on. And now you've got 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.200 to hit the same shot that you were scared of before. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.200 When you go over that green state ten fifteen yard, 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.160 you're probably six to eight feet below the actual putty 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.040 surface and you're pitching back up into the grain and 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.800 not allowed to green the pitch. And what I've seen, 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.720 lady the last few years that we didn't used to 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.960 see in the old days because guys can hit the 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.440 ball so far, is guys that catch one and they 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.040 knock it over the green and it goes in the 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.920 lake on sixteen. We used to never see that because 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.880 the grasses cuts mode so much nicer now and it's 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.160 all down grain, and that ball takes off, it's going 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.040 into water on sixteen. Then you're really upset because, as 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.679 you mentioned in the beginning, because it's played at the 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.360 same place every year, we know where the pin positions 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.480 are going to be very rarely on Sunday. I mean, 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.920 they're never going to put a pin on the right 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.480 front right of the green at fifteen. They're never going 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.720 to put a pin on the front right at sixteen. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.760 They're always going to put the pin on fifteen to 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.240 the left down at the bottom. They're always going to 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:17.000 put that pin on sixteen, the iconic sixteenth pin position 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.400 where Tiger Chip did sixteen more than any of them. 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.640 Occasionally they'll put it straight back in the middle of 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.439 the green. You can remember years ago Nichols hole a 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.800 big pot putting up the hill. Usually the pin on 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.120 Sunday used to be kind of on the right side, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.920 straight back towards the back of the green. They use 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.440 the one over to the left on Saturday, but they've 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.440 changed that up now, so it's either going to be 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.360 one or the two. It just makes for an exciting hole. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.320 I mean, it's it's just special watching those guys play. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.600 They've linked in that tea a little. They didn't have 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.160 a lot of room, but they went back to the 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.680 left end. It's lower. It's actually below the fairway, so 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.800 the ball doesn't carry quite as far as it used to. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.720 But there's still most of the time hitting some sort 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.720 of iron in there. But you know, it's it's like 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.839 anything else. A lot depends on the wind can be. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.839 We've seen seventy back in the day have the lead 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.080 coming in. He's hitting the forearm to the green, trying 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.920 to hit a high fate and don't quite hit it, 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:12.080 hits in the water costum winning. Even in Norman's debacle 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.000 when he was still hanging in there, you know he 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.960 struggled on those holes coming at sixteen, even hit in 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:21.520 the water. So it's there's I would say, there's tragedy 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.040 waiting for you. That's why I say Augusta to win 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.679 Augusta is a really really mental game. You gotta really 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.840 to be smart and learn how to play that course. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.160 So is it harder to win from the front or 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:40.720 is it easier to chase? Because obviously if you do 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.079 have a lead, and we've seen that over the years, 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.439 we see guys that have a lead and all of 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.920 a sudden, by the fifth hole, the lead's gone and 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.160 all of a sudden they've got a two three shot lead. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.280 Didn't take advantage of two. And also, to do you 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:59.160 feel like it's a golf course and a tournament that 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.679 it is hard to lead from the front on Sunday, 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.240 I think it depends on the individual. You've had great 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.880 front runners you've had. Tiger Woods is probably the greatest 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.560 front runner in the history of the game. He just 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.240 takes off and leads you. Jack was the greatest champion 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.200 of all time. You know, he won eighteen majors nineteen seconds. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.520 I mean he could have won thirty something major. But 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.640 those guys were smart taken hand out. Now you have 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.040 other guys don't feel comfortable with the league. You have 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.960 a lot of great players that have won a lot 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.000 of tournaments and had never won one when they had 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.480 the lead because they come behind and they can free 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.640 wheel it a little and say, well, I got nothing 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.240 to lose. I'm just going to turn and loose and 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.800 start shooting for everything. The guy that has the lead, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.959 depending on who he is, it's a lot of pressure 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.280 on him and the mindset dad of you, I mean, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.000 that is interesting that you mentioned that some guys, I mean, 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.640 Tiger loved having a lead, and then there are other 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.240 guys that have never really won tournaments being in the 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.720 lead they've worn What is it about the mindset of 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.520 the chaser and the guy that's got the lead, and 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.200 how are those different? What depends on how well the 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.719 guy was playing that had the league. Did he do 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.320 with his putting? Does he have an exceptional putting week 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.160 where he gets up and down every time and all 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.719 of a sudden, now it's the fourth round, of the 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.360 first major of the year that you got the National Masters, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.560 and he's scared to death going out there because you 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.240 know he hasn't had his best shot. Stuff. If you're 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.200 having control of your golf ball, especially your iron games, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.160 scottis Sheffer is a perfect one. He controls his ball 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.720 beautifully the way he's played John rom Rory. These guys 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.280 control their ball. And we could put Cantley in a 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.640 whole bunch of other guys in there too, But this 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.560 is the important part. And then here comes the coup 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.480 right here. How comfortable are you with the league? Some 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.800 guys love it, they absolutely love it. DJ is very 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.840 good at it. DJ gets the lead, he loves it. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.000 Rory likes to lay. They got to come get need 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:50.600 And the only way they can get me is if 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.840 I make a mistake. So if I don't make any mistakes, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.600 That's why I say it's a mental thing. You've got 0:13:54.600 --> 0:14:01.880 to be strong mentally to deal with it. We had 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.800 some people ask Tiger or Jack, who's the greatest of 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.800 all time? Well, first of all, it's different erors, so 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.360 it's hard to compare them, especially with a different equipment 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.000 and stuff. The way I answered that question, all the 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.400 time is Jack is the greatest champion that's ever lived. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.360 There's no doubt about it. He won eighteen majors, he 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.240 got nineteen seconds, He's got thirteen thirds. He could have 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.640 won a zillion majors. Every time there was a major, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.520 Jack Knicks was there with a changed Tiger is the 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.840 greatest player I've ever seen. He could take over a 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.960 golf course. He won the US Open by fifteen shots. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.640 He wins these majors by eight and nine and ten shots. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.160 No one's ever done that. I don't think you could 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.520 say one's better than the other. To me, they're the 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.640 two greatest players that have ever played the game, and 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.800 I in no way I can say one's better than 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.280 the other. I wish they could have both played against 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.000 each other in their prime because it would have been 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.440 something to see. We had a lot of people asked 0:14:54.440 --> 0:15:00.040 this question, what's the difference between elite and what's the 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.840 difference between good? What's what's because everybody, I mean, Dad, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.240 you work with so many players, I work with players. 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.240 I'm always getting asked that question. What is it that 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:16.359 separates players from level to level? But that elite? Rory McElroy, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:21.040 Dustin Johnson, Scottie Cheffer, the great great players of any era, 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:27.600 Jack Arnie Whatever, Tiger, Greg Faldo. What is the differentiator 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.960 that separates the good from the great, from the good 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.920 from the really really elite players? I think the best, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:40.120 the ultimate champions, it's all mental. They handle every situation perfectly. 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.600 They understand their adrenaline rushes in their body. How much 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.280 further do they hit a shot when they're all jacked up? 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.560 They have the ability and do you hear me say 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.760 this all the time that the last shot never happened? 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.880 It's gone. I can't be thinking about it three holes later. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.920 How did I three put that green from twelve feet 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.320 or something? The great ones just put it out of 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.760 their mind and they are totally focused on what they've 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.600 got control of right now. And the only thing you 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.480 have control of is the next shot that you're going 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.480 to hit. And these guys, because they're all good, these 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.920 players today are all really good. And you've got guys 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.880 that win a lot of tournaments and don't even win 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.560 them ever win a major. You know, it's because it's 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.280 it's hard to win a major. But the guys that 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.840 have total control of their mind, their ability to know 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.440 their nervous system and control and have a great caddy 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.320 that can keep them going and involved with that. That's 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.720 the difference between the elite and the really good ones. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.560 Do you think you can overprepare for Augusta. I always 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.280 think the guys get there too early. They do too 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.880 many kind of scouting missions and then the golf course. Now, 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.160 I mean, that's the great thing about Augusta too. It 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.800 it gets in their head early, and the people setting 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.720 up the golf course they know that it's getting in 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.200 their head. And everybody always says, I don't know why 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.000 I'm playing these practice rounds because by the time we 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.520 get to Thursday, the golf course from Wednesday night to 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.440 Thursday morning can be totally different than the of course 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.600 they played for the last three days. It's the young 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.520 ones that go there and over prepare. The champions will 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.440 go there the week before and they'll play and they'll 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.199 do there, but they're caddying to do it. Then they 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.040 may not show up till Tuesday, and then they'll only 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.240 play nine holes. They'll play nine holes Tuesday, nine holes Wednesday, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.480 and then they'll go play the tournament. The young ones 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.120 are the first and second timers. Man they're they're there 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.120 the weekend before. By the time Thursday comes around, they're 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.280 not only one out of physic but they weren't out mentally. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:28.480 They're like, how the hell are we going to play 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.520 this hole? Oh my god, I can't, you know, And 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.760 everybody's telling them. The old timers love messing with the 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.600 new ones. This ye okay, here, let's start off on 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.200 number two. You can't hit to the left on number two. Okay, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.520 if you hook it down there, there's a creek down there, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.240 and there's a Delta Airlines ticket agency down there to 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.760 get your fight because you're not gonna be here on Saturday. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.120 That's the first thing. So now you've played the first hole, 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.080 you made bogue, you're gonna double bogie the second. Then 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.440 you get on thirty, act like you can drive the green, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:55.880 but you hit it over the green and you pitch 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:57.960 it back over the green. You made another double. Now 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.520 you're staying on the fourth tea. So they messed with 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:05.679 his kids heads all the time. But I think you 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.320 watch the really good ones. They don't play a lot 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.199 of practice rounds. They usually go nine and nine. Someone 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.880 will come in on Monday and just play Tuesday and Wednesday. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.760 Most of them, the upper echelon, have been there the 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:18.840 week before and they've worked on their games and they 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.080 know their game plan for the way that the course 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.240 is set up. It's it's man, it's a mental test 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.600 to Gusta National, I'm here to tell you it is 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.600 a mental test. We had a lot of people that 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.200 right in and ask about the work that you've been 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.399 doing with Ricky Fowler and some of the work that 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.760 you've just started doing with Tommy Fleetwood. Let's talk about 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.399 Ricky first. I mean, obviously disappointed not to play his 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.200 way into August, but I think we're starting to see 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.760 some signs of life and Ricky starting to play golf 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.920 like I know he wants to, and how we all 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.040 know he can play as well. Yeah, we got back 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.920 together last November. Did most of it just on video 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.200 because I was in Florida my brother Craig, who lives 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.200 down there as a member at the Medalist where he's 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.359 a member, and Craig was kind of my eyes. We 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.879 laid out. I laid out a whole plan for Ricky 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.199 what I wanted to do to change the flame of 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.399 his arm, give him more hip, turning a lot of 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.960 different things that we've worked on, and then Craig would 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.000