WEBVTT - Dupre “DoItAll” Kelly | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

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<v Speaker 1>What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my

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<v Speaker 1>guys over at Drink Champs.

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<v Speaker 2>You should nobody know.

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<v Speaker 1>You should nobody know. Yeah, y'all, you already know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Yours truly back with another exclusive episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Solid, and this one right here. It's special when

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<v Speaker 1>you have someone that was a childhood favorite. Really, when

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to the music, it takes you right back

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<v Speaker 1>the way you was. Let's welcome not only rapper do

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<v Speaker 1>it all, city councilman, do it all to the building.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know what, my brother, I'm good man, yo, man.

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<v Speaker 1>The evolution of hip hop is amazing, brother, to see

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<v Speaker 1>you over here from rap bars, the change in the laws,

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<v Speaker 1>yes said, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Still got bars, you know, man, man dope, Yo man, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you man making easy money, yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't I ain't pimping no more. I'm tired. Love lockdown,

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<v Speaker 1>love lockdown, That's what it was growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>Hip hop looks like, yes, you know, I love it. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's go back before we keep taking the present,

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<v Speaker 1>because the year is nineteen ninety three. I remember being

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<v Speaker 1>in my house video music box, so all we had

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<v Speaker 1>was video music box or the box. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough money for the box, so all we had was

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<v Speaker 1>video music box. Shout out Ralph McDaniels.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out Ralph Man, Happy anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>Here comes the laws Man drops Yes, produced by Mally

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<v Speaker 1>mas I signing. Oh wow, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that K Death did the hits man Like produced.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like at A eighty three to have

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<v Speaker 1>a major hit by a major producer and you were

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<v Speaker 1>signed to Marley mal Like in nineteen eight. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even imagine which I was living. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from you, yo.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a dream come true. Like I am so

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<v Speaker 3>hip hop man, Like I am hip hop, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm never gonna stop being hip hop with anything

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<v Speaker 3>that I do. But with that being said, we I

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<v Speaker 3>was the young the young homie that recorded Mally mal

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<v Speaker 3>Pau's tape on WBLS.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, the sessue on the tape.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm recording Molly mal and mister Magic on BLS. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>listening to all of that and we go off. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be a rapper I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>a deal that doesn't work out, well, says you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if it does not work out, you are going to school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, So everybody, so everybody. So I went to school, man, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Went to Show University because it didn't seem like it

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<v Speaker 3>was working out.

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<v Speaker 2>And Raleigh, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, yeah, man n C.

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<v Speaker 3>And it felt like it was starting to happen because

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<v Speaker 3>Mallie Maul's cousin went to our school.

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<v Speaker 2>Derek L. A. Jackson. Now, Derek is the same guy

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<v Speaker 2>who found Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>Storch Oh wow, Yeah, and he managed Coolio and all

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<v Speaker 3>of those Mountain Deuke commercials that you used to see

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<v Speaker 3>with Nicki.

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<v Speaker 2>Minaj and Lil Wayne and all of that. All that

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<v Speaker 2>was Derek L. A. Jackson, And he found the roots damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Clug.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in college with our DJ, DJ Lord Jazz.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout yea Lord Jazz living.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what's so dope about the era? Back then,

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<v Speaker 1>the DJ got just as much as the artist. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, hey, that's my DJ. Dog Biggas just

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<v Speaker 1>focused on the artist. So that's dope that all three

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<v Speaker 1>of y'all grew together.

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<v Speaker 3>Lord Jazz founded Lords of the Underground, We say that

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<v Speaker 3>because La was his best friend in college and Lord

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<v Speaker 3>Jazz was the DJ at all of the parties, all

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<v Speaker 3>of the Greek parties, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And La was graduating and he was going to work

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<v Speaker 3>for his cousin, who just happened to be Marley mal

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, Yo, when I go work for Marli,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm a try to get a group in there.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, former group, when I go work for Marli.

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<v Speaker 3>So he would let me rhyme at all of the parties.

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<v Speaker 3>And he would never let funk rahm at the parties.

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<v Speaker 1>No way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he wouldn't let funk ram at the parties. I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>expressing them so much.

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<v Speaker 3>And then one day Man, he asked us to come

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<v Speaker 3>up to the radio station and we set a rhyme

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<v Speaker 3>that we wrote together, and they sent the tape, which

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<v Speaker 3>was Psycho. They sent that tape that we was rhyming

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<v Speaker 3>over dress from Black Sheep and you know, roming over.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it might have been flavored a month or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. He sent it to.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout to send it to Malie.

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<v Speaker 3>Man and Molly called Man and said, Yo, when y'all

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<v Speaker 3>come into the house.

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<v Speaker 2>It Hits and the rest became history.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>So to answer your question, being able.

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<v Speaker 3>To be in front of Molly Mal who I used

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<v Speaker 3>to record from the radio, it was just it was

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<v Speaker 3>amazing to me. The first time we walked into the

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<v Speaker 3>house it Hits, which was upstate New York at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we pull up to this white house upstate

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<v Speaker 3>New York. You see a red path. Fonder, you see

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<v Speaker 3>a red pile, you see a red BMW.

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<v Speaker 2>All the cards was red.

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<v Speaker 3>This one Mally had the ring back in that day

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<v Speaker 3>before anybody had the ring. You pressed his bell and

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<v Speaker 3>he could see you and you talked to him.

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<v Speaker 2>We went in.

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<v Speaker 3>Dang, it's a little skinny kid standing in between the

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<v Speaker 3>SSL and back then it was only two people that

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<v Speaker 3>had ssls in their home, or maybe three, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>Prince Molly Mal and Teddy Riley. And it's this little

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<v Speaker 3>skinny kid with a bell can go on and a

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<v Speaker 3>white beater on and he's all you hear is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mama said, knock you out.

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<v Speaker 3>It was yo, chill, yo, this is this is young

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<v Speaker 3>kids like, yes, it's legendary. Ll was like the god,

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<v Speaker 3>yes you know, and he said, yo ta yo tad,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to meet my new group. We ain't

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<v Speaker 3>even had the name yet, you know. And he turned around,

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<v Speaker 3>he looked at us, He licked his lips. He turned

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<v Speaker 3>the music down him like what up beat? Then he

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<v Speaker 3>turned it back up. Mama said, knock you out. They

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<v Speaker 3>was mixing. Mama said, knock you out. I turned to

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<v Speaker 3>the crew.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yo, we made it word up like

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<v Speaker 1>we here we in the president are real right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But damn, like you said, you was in Shaw University

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<v Speaker 1>pledge Alpha Pi Alpha.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even fold alpha.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Step, How did that shape

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<v Speaker 1>your leadership? You know what I mean? Mindset that you

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<v Speaker 1>carried today.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it's difficult, right, Like it was difficult when you

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<v Speaker 3>come from and I know you know League coming from Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 3>when you come from those inner cities.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you just believe and know what you know?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So when somebody introduced something foreign to you, first thing

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<v Speaker 3>we do is we push back to those things that

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<v Speaker 3>that's unfamiliar to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I first went to school, I only went

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<v Speaker 3>to school because I got in trouble, right, I got

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<v Speaker 3>I got locked up, I got caught Joe Rod.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I got charged with a gun. I got

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<v Speaker 2>charged with the drugs. That was I was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen years God damn.

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<v Speaker 3>And the councilman at the time shout out to my

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<v Speaker 3>mentor Hot Feast for Red, who went on to manage

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<v Speaker 3>laws of the underground. But the council he was the

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<v Speaker 3>chief of staff to the councilman. And shout out to

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Ralph T. Grant Senior. He's still living man eighty

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<v Speaker 3>almost nineties, ninety something years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he lives in Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know where the retired right And you

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<v Speaker 3>know he said, Joe, I know you not this type

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<v Speaker 3>of dude. Let me let me write some letters to

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<v Speaker 3>the judges and to the courts and see if I

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<v Speaker 3>can get some lesser things to happen. Long story short,

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<v Speaker 3>they come back the court saying you gotta go to school.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to school. I had to paint some polls

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<v Speaker 2>and all that. They said.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been there, you know, went to school and that's

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<v Speaker 3>where I met the people that changed my life.

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<v Speaker 2>But even back to the councilman, that was the counselman

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<v Speaker 2>that everything that he showed me.

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<v Speaker 3>I wound up becoming an alpha like him. I wound

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<v Speaker 3>up going to the same school that he graduated.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't make this up.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, as the counselman of North New Jersey, I

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<v Speaker 3>have the same office that he had as the counselor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, that's like as full three sixty to be

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<v Speaker 1>standing there looking at it as a juveie looking at

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<v Speaker 1>them helping you on some criminal activity, to now you

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<v Speaker 1>the counselman in that same spot and able to give

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<v Speaker 1>the same opportunity to maybe another misfortunate young you know,

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<v Speaker 1>young man out here in the wrong place, wrong time.

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<v Speaker 1>So damn man, you doing all of that college and

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<v Speaker 1>that's dope that you got in the situation. And they

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<v Speaker 1>made you go to school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they made me go to school. That was back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know if they're gonna do that now.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened in my era, They just put you in truan. See,

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<v Speaker 1>it took you to the preset, your moms came and

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<v Speaker 1>got you. You still was dumb yesterday as you was

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<v Speaker 1>that day. They did not say, hey, we're gonna sign

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<v Speaker 1>you up to college and get you right. Was none

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<v Speaker 1>of that. So all of that happening, and then Chief Rocker,

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<v Speaker 1>Chief Rocker drops buzzing nationally everywhere radio send it like

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I think that was maybe you know, back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day listening to music, you didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>records went gold, what records were platt, no, what records

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<v Speaker 1>was not. As a kid, you didn't care. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that record would the first time I noticed, like, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, this ship is everywhere. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that was a blessing man.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think before we even get the Chief rock up,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to rewind too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think it was the build up.

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<v Speaker 3>We had like five videos, as you know, shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to Rubin Rodriguez who ran Pendulum Records.

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<v Speaker 1>Angel I remember shout they had one record that last forever, forever, forever.

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<v Speaker 1>They ain't even in the video. They was cool as mother, cool, cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think we have to rewind, like and go

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<v Speaker 3>back to Funky Child, right, so funky shot, Like first

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<v Speaker 3>Psycho was bubbling and and it became okay, but then

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<v Speaker 3>Funky Child dropped and that stuff. You know, I went

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<v Speaker 3>into the went into the video with the diaper.

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<v Speaker 1>On, yo, the baby, oh you the baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, heard up.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the first one to set it off.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually we got that from Parliament Funkadelic.

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<v Speaker 1>No way at the time, shout out you and the

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<v Speaker 1>baby y'all the only tour my life flying I seen

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<v Speaker 1>doing and y'all held it down. Man, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got Funky Child to come out. I remember being at

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<v Speaker 3>Rosco Chicken and Waffles uh in La. You know, back then,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody had a record representative in each city that was

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<v Speaker 3>a good good and our record representative came in and

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<v Speaker 3>they slid the billboard tours and they said, congratulations you

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<v Speaker 3>number one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a Funky Child. So we're like, oh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but the.

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<v Speaker 3>Record representative was still like kind of like down, so

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<v Speaker 3>we're like, yo, he just said we number one?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, I want to apologize to y'all. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like apologize for what he said because we didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>this record would move so we didn't push it.

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<v Speaker 2>So were like, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>The record went number one and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, he like, yeah, man, it could have really been

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<v Speaker 2>been that record.

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<v Speaker 1>Funky Child, is it? Like think? Uh? French Matanda revived.

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<v Speaker 2>That out the French.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a we had a long talk with him

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<v Speaker 3>about you know, I was I was upset with French

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<v Speaker 3>at first, French. I was upset with you, but because

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<v Speaker 3>this French is my dude now, but I was upset

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<v Speaker 3>with and Max has always been my guy, but French.

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<v Speaker 3>We was upset with French because we felt like when

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<v Speaker 3>you did the video, when you did the song, you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't reach out to the homies to originated, just invite

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<v Speaker 3>us in the video so we can be like this

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<v Speaker 3>in the video, you know, and it wasn't and then

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<v Speaker 3>come to find out it wasn't even him, it was

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<v Speaker 3>his crew and all.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so but were cool.

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<v Speaker 1>French is cool and I mean that that recad bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that rec gonna live forever. Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to my partner cheat you off screen and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like yo. He was like if I remember, He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, Lords, the Underground might have the last

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<v Speaker 1>breakdancing record released.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what That's what I'm getting to too. So

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<v Speaker 3>when he told us that Funky Child, they didn't push.

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<v Speaker 3>The next record was Chief Rocker. So now they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>believe or push Funky Child.

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<v Speaker 1>When they put.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything in the Chief Rocker, that made Chief Rocker a

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<v Speaker 3>top forty hit, and that changed our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>What video was that I'm trying I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong song. But y'all shot a video in Newark,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, and it was at night. The video was

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<v Speaker 1>that Chief Rocker or Lord Child that that was? That

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<v Speaker 1>was funky that video bro like classic by Gee. I

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<v Speaker 1>was mobbing in Newark.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, let me give you a history about Funky Child cover.

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<v Speaker 3>I never said this on any interview ever. We were

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to have that cover with baby pictures of us,

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<v Speaker 3>and Funk could not find a baby picture of himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Back like his mom's you know, God bless Auntie. She

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<v Speaker 3>had passed on my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's different to him.

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<v Speaker 3>We signed on January twelfth to Mary and funk Mom's

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<v Speaker 3>past on January fourteenth, which is my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the best day of his life than the

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<v Speaker 2>worst day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So he couldn't find any of his baby pictures and

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<v Speaker 3>then next thing, you know, Big comes out with the

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<v Speaker 3>big baby picture.

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<v Speaker 1>It was mad drama over the baby pictures. Y'all had

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<v Speaker 1>drama over the the Funk yeah being the Funky Child,

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<v Speaker 1>like Hi being the Funk your man, Yo. It was

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<v Speaker 1>mad drum because I remember lording that's you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>came out. What was his album The Funk some turn

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<v Speaker 1>the Return of the y'all was Lords.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the No we was the Lords of the Underground.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, y'all was, but no y'all was.

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<v Speaker 3>The record was funky, yes, but people used to say

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<v Speaker 3>it was the return of the Funky Chap.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what called I remember as a shorter. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this was back with right word. All that stuff is out.

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<v Speaker 1>You get your like, yo, this is going on. Then

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<v Speaker 1>when I spoke the Guru, I told him I interview,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yo, gotta bring up that because this was

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<v Speaker 1>a big time, big movement and then like the funk sound. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there is no originator to it. Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>right because Lord foressing them did what they did with

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<v Speaker 1>the Diamond D and.

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<v Speaker 2>Them shout out to d I TC.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all came out and changed the pushed the envelope further,

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<v Speaker 1>and then RADMN came out and took it even further.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's even take it further than that, right, So Parliament, Parliament,

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<v Speaker 3>Funk Cadelic is from New Jersey, so all of the

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<v Speaker 3>sampling of.

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<v Speaker 2>The funk in the West Coast, that's New Jersey, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn. So foressing them was wild no.

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<v Speaker 3>Not even just for that, like the West Coast gets

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<v Speaker 3>the credit for that funk sound in hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but they were sampling a Jersey artist. You see

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So, I mean shout out the shout

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<v Speaker 2>out the Finesse too. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>For now, I've met him at an award show. He's

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<v Speaker 1>super dupe. One of the illest lyricists I met coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect all the OG's, that's one thing. All of

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<v Speaker 1>y'all paved a way for us to do what we

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<v Speaker 1>do today. And if guys don't know lords in the underground,

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<v Speaker 1>digging in the crates, Molly, ma, you're doing a disservice

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself a hip hop like like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like keep bringing up the young and the old.

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<v Speaker 1>But little Yachty man what he said about you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, rappers Delight. It's just like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, that's blasphemy.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what's crazy about little Yachty Like his

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<v Speaker 3>mother went to our college.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn, no way, yo, chill. So Mama Yati sitting again, Mama.

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<v Speaker 2>Yati right Shaw University. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean shout out to Yachty. So when

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<v Speaker 3>we found out out, I was like, wow, she should

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<v Speaker 3>have schooled the more what happened on Yes for sure, man, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>But back to the Chief Rocker.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>So after after Funky Child, you know, we were on

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<v Speaker 3>the weird platform, and then we switched to the EU

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<v Speaker 3>my platform with Chief Rokker, and they poured all of

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<v Speaker 3>those dollars, all this promotion and marketing dollars, marketing dollars

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<v Speaker 3>into that, and man, Chief Rocker just changed our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to buy our mother home, mother's homes, ourselves homes.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can tell a difference from it hit.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know you people hit radio hit is

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<v Speaker 1>better than the digital hit. Oh you see, way more money, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, like how the game is bregged

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and I don't own the money machine, but

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<v Speaker 1>that radio hit and I come on ninety three ninety four, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>that was That's all it was was radio. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no digital, It was no end in Thatt radio. So

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<v Speaker 1>y'all got to see the full fledge of what rappers

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<v Speaker 1>today can only dream of.

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<v Speaker 2>Me.

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<v Speaker 1>I came in on the tail end of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had the jyrules and the murdering radio Nelly. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like get your record in Nigga. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of competition. Member, it's nine slots. It's only nine

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<v Speaker 1>slots on the radio. Jah had three, Luda had two,

0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Nelly had two, and Jay got the rest. They looking

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<v Speaker 1>at you like where you want me to put your

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<v Speaker 1>record outside the radio?

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<v Speaker 2>I got your right. It was that Monday of music, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Mondays and Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, new money. There used to be new money break

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<v Speaker 1>it Thursday. Member. They used to be like what was

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<v Speaker 1>this ship? Rocket or jacket or used to do rocket

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<v Speaker 1>or socket rocking? Sick? Yeah, yo, like back then, like

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<v Speaker 1>when did the how you said you was on pendulum?

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<v Speaker 1>But then how did the death Jam thing happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we wasn't see Redman was on Death Jam and

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<v Speaker 3>people like, you know that's my brother.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I got four Godfathers for my I call them

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<v Speaker 2>for my son.

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<v Speaker 3>Man right angels, Yeah, man, they the Mount Rushmore Godfathers, Man,

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<v Speaker 3>Red Man and Lord Finness, Michael Bivens from New Edition.

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<v Speaker 1>And Trench God damn. He got it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, they spoiled the message.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he got it all. He got gangster shows skills

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to rapa Redman. He don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>he know now see this, but when that first album

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<v Speaker 1>The What Crazy, I studied that out razing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a legend man, He's one of my favorite monkst

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<v Speaker 3>being my brother, but he used to be my DJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Chill Redman is a DJ two.

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<v Speaker 2>Red Man was my DJ before he was Redman, the

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<v Speaker 2>Murderous Yo Chill.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Muddy Waters DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was my DJ man And he's just always been

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<v Speaker 3>a fire MC even when he was DJing. We had

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<v Speaker 3>this set that we used to do where he would

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<v Speaker 3>be cutting.

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<v Speaker 1>While he's rapping.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>And he just been a He just been an ill

0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 3>MC man all along. So Saluthor, Regie noble Man always

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<v Speaker 3>been fire for real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of talent came from New Jersey period,

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<v Speaker 1>but from Newark, New Jersey. A lot of y'all man

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<v Speaker 1>like Tratch you rad mean, Queen Latifa, definite fucking.

0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Fuji's, all of them, Lauren wykleft.

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Fuji's even Whitney Houston on Nippy Shack Shock. Like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great came from Newark, New Jersey. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think y'all get the respect for that for carving

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot of shit that us in this world lived. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, bro, if you take Shock, all the music,

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<v Speaker 1>take the Fooji's, Whitney Houston, what we got how many

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's it gonna be a lot of voids out

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>there that need feeling, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, man And we used to say that a lot too,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we love New York City being so close in

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<v Speaker 3>proximity to y'all, you know what I mean, Like this

0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 3>is the mecca, the BX is the mecca.

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<v Speaker 2>But we felt like in the nineties we had everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>world up. You know, we had our brothers from Trenton,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what i mean, like Cam Cam Trent Like

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<v Speaker 2>we had.

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<v Speaker 3>So many people man from I mean, you got h

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<v Speaker 3>Channel Live, you got.

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<v Speaker 1>Artist handles, live, Outlaws.

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<v Speaker 3>You just had so many different people, man, that were

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<v Speaker 3>rocking in the nineties hip hop. And we just feel

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.800
<v Speaker 3>like sometimes we don't get mentioned enough that life comes

0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:41.800
<v Speaker 3>the nineties hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even know like Eminem went to Newark and

0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of his roots too from running around

0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>with the guys out there. A lot of people don't

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.719
<v Speaker 1>know that too. They came to the outside, That's what

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. They think all them flows came from a male.

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<v Speaker 1>Now half them just came from Newark, New.

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey too, Shout out Tom Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely. He was definitely love man always. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I love about rap man that when you really

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<v Speaker 1>into it, it ain't where you from like they say,

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.160
<v Speaker 1>it's where you at. Because he was a Detroit guy.

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.719
<v Speaker 1>And I heard more stories about him in New New

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey than I did in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, man, Yeah, I mean he was, he was there.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in the outshouse. Yes, so we used to

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:22.719
<v Speaker 2>call it the outshouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Come digger man up, y'all got goats, New Jersey, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden, come on, shout the button word up man.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean young z like he was with them, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. So, I mean it was only

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<v Speaker 3>best that he had to get their game up or

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 3>they would have took his head off.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fact, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know you you you've been around greats,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, And when you've been in Baseline, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to come with it or take your head off.

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:58.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a fact. That's the time. Remember Rockefeller, we had

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>what ten artists. Baseline only had two rooms. People think

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Baseline was a room for everybody. Hell no, it was

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<v Speaker 1>two rooms and you could not be in there bullshitting

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<v Speaker 1>with bars. That was the number one thing. Hold come

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 1>in there, I mean what you got Oh you bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>with bars? Gurule turn this off, yo, bring bring these

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.119
<v Speaker 1>news beans in the man. It was. It was just

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>like that, like either you gonna have it or you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Next man up, who got it in there?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's crazy, you say beans? Shout out the beans

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 3>mashed my dogs him and Freeway did. They did a

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 3>bunch of community stuff for me in the community man

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 3>in our hood in Irvington and the noyork excuse me

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 3>and shout out to them man that that they don't

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 3>see it to be robbery to still come and do

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 3>some community stuff. But I remember one time, man, my

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 3>first time beans. I wanted to do beans.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember this, but uh, what was their management? Black hand?

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:52.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, black hand?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so I was real rolling? What up in real roller?

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I know they remember a producer by the name of

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Black Friday.

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Black Friday, yeah, black hand and queens. It took me

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>a minute.

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 3>It's no thank you for therection enough because I know

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 3>black no we queen, but Black Friday. We was in Philly.

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 3>I want my man Craig King, producer Craig King. You

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 3>might remember me did some stuff for Yay, did some

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 3>stuff with Luda A Leah, a bunch of people. But

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 3>he asked me to take a ride with him in Philly.

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.959
<v Speaker 3>We go to this inconspicuous house, you know, in Philly,

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 3>on some crazy block. I go in and this is

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 3>probably like ninety nine, maybe when Beans came out.

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand to two thousands album dropped.

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's about ninety nine.

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I go in.

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<v Speaker 2>The house is all dimly lit, you know.

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 3>We sitting down at the table with Black Friday, and

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.959
<v Speaker 3>Beans is standing in the corner light.

0:24:55.680 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 2>He's waiting for something like security. And we sit down

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>and he comes over to me and he like, I

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 2>love sleep for dinner. That's my favoring record. And then

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 2>he goes back to the corner.

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm walking like, yo, who is next time I saw Beans,

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 3>he was in a Bentley.

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Yo chill Ye Beans was a Bentley man. Yeah two

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>he had two up at one time. It used to

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>come to me bleak the Bentley hot let me hold

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a ben switch out with it spaking, No problem. I

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>don't want this shit anyway, right or man? So nineteen

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>ninety four, when fucking how can I say this? Man?

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>After keepers of funk in the industry shifted, you know

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? The label support back then shifted to

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>what was the mindset of y'all moving forward from then?

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Like, that's a great ass question, leek, that's a great question.

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 3>And I'm saying that's a great question because I want

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 3>the young and to taints and artist to understand out there,

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 3>never stop going, Never believe that.

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm on, I got to hit. I'm good. Never

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 2>stop because we was rich as hell in ninety four.

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel you know what I'm saying A hundred bro, I.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Feel you you can get kind of lazy.

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 3>You can get like, oh they want what, No tell them,

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.679
<v Speaker 3>we want such and such, or they want to not

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 3>tell them only if it's twenty first.

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Class, ye tell you know.

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Start feeling yourself.

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 3>Feeling yourself, man, and and if you ain't feeling yourself,

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 3>you ain't.

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Touch it, right, That's right, you know what I'm saying.

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a fact. You ain't really see success if you

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>ain't start thinking, if you ain't get big, had it

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 1>or think you left earth?

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you left earth.

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You ain't see success for real.

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean you ain't.

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 3>You ain't had a chance to come back, but yes,

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, you start feeling yourself a little bit. And

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 3>I think ninety four we riches. I don't know what

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 3>we got keepers of the funt recording while we're on tour.

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Once we went to Chicago in ninety two, like the

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 3>end of ninety two, we hadn't been home for like damn, damn.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>They it felt like three years. I mean periodically we

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>hadn't we hadn't.

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Been last right, you know what I mean?

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 3>And we was just rich, rocking, and you know, and

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 3>when that album came, that hunger that we did and

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.880
<v Speaker 3>here come the Lords of This is just something we love.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 3>We don't even care if it comes out. Almost I

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 3>think that we started questioning everything, well.

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 2>How many points for this? Or how many is this?

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>And how many is that?

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Or what this looked like or what these numbers? You

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>start doing the business while you're trying to do the rat.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I tell people that all these young artists, I tell them,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>once it become one because you do it for free,

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>for the love. That's how we always started. For the love.

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Once they give you that checking, you look like I

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>got this oh yes for that right now, it becomes

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a business and you start trying to shoot for bigger checks.

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 1>That's our same check, and it's you're not the love

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that you did it for. The music is just not

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>coming out the same.

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 3>In it man, and and you know, Keepers of the

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Funk still did amazing. You know, we went gold initially

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 3>with it. I think it's already somewhere around platinum now,

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't the same vigor that we we approached

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 3>it when when here come the Lords and we were

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 3>still on the road, so we couldn't just lock in

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 3>into the studio and we could have, but we didn't

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 3>stop pausing of getting the money to you know what

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean. So I think the mad and then the

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:46.239
<v Speaker 3>industry was switching. Yes, I remember Ruben Rodriguez shout out

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 3>to Supreme.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Seed Man, Supreme Seed. He actually married wy.

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Cleft's sister mouth Man.

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Music business is czy, but Supreme See, we had a

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 3>record with him called Never Faded and shout out to

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 3>everybody loved they never Faded It kills on the rule.

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 3>But at that time the record company wanted us to

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>lead with that single. I know we wanted to lead

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 3>with that single. But they wanted to lead with the

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Nise Williams Keep the Faith, which almost sounded like an

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 3>inspirational churchy vibe lords and under Oh your Lord's underground,

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 3>this churchy vibing.

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>The streets wanted never fade, right, you know what I mean.

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 3>So we went, of course with the record company because

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna put all of the money into this. We

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 3>had Denise Williams shout out the Nise Williams. She's a legend,

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 3>she's singing on it. But the streets wanted the grimy right,

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 3>and then mob and all of them was coming, and

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 3>we didn't put that out first.

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>We put out the nice record, Nice Record because they

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go crossover. So when the labels tell you

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>we got to go crossover, let's go for ads, yest's

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>go for radio. And then they had you in there

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>like this, like yeah, I might go be l two.

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.719
<v Speaker 2>The underground we wanted never faded.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had me in there. It was Joe, Rue

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.959
<v Speaker 1>Nelly and them, Yo, we need that you in there,

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Like now, j'a do got muscles? I hang with the nigga.

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I might do that. Go try niggas, Like dang't you

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>take that back? To the boy homie. So I feel

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>you with that.

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Like listening, man, and I think that we didn't.

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Kind of line up aligned.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 3>With the switch was you know, like I said, we

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>young dudes who just got our mothers and families out

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>of the hood and rich.

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's the that's the main, that's the most important,

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the thing to accomplish when you get into this, because

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what we wanted. Man, you picked up that pen.

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I know me, Man, I was tired of looking at

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>roaches in the crib try hanging from the ceiling. I'm

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>tired of opening up that pot, Mi whatch you cook

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's just everything in the cabin throwing in one fig.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>It was like, nah, go outside the homies. That's hustling.

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>He buying pizza, he buying pigs, patties, his nigga buying sneakers,

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever he wants. Like, I gotta figure something out. And

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>then you start writing your pain down and then you

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>get paid for it and here you are. And then

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like in ninety four, ninety three, ninety two, men to

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>have a gold record back then, it's equivalent today to

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>be in double platinum. Like seriously, because you literally, like

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, it was no digital nothing. Five hundred thousand

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>people had to physically get us walk in that store

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and purchase that CD, that tape and keep it pushing.

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>So that's a major accomplishment because it's just like the NBA.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like everybody in the NBA, you have one

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand, millions of players that played, but not everybody

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>can say they want a chip. It's the same thing

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in this business. Million of people played, not everybody brung

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a chip home. So to have a chip in multiple chips,

0:31:55.560 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that's an accomplishing itself. And then back then, bro, like

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I could say, like you saying, Yo, we was rich rich,

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, nineteen ninety three, a gold record.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>My man had like eight cars at one time.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Me and Lord Jazz used to laugh at them, like

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 3>what is you doing with all these cars?

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>And we still joke about it to this day.

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, it was just so many different I mean,

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, because you have experience.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And I've seen it in the two thousands and the

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>money was still major, but it wasn't what it was

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties. Like I used to be mad at

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>some of my cousins in them looking at drug dealers

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in the two thousands, that'd be like, yeah, I got

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>money in eighty eight, and I'm like, cause you was

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>outside eighty eight two. Wasn't you why you ain't got no?

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh you was in the house. You ain't go outside.

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it. So but then everything changed, Like what

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.959
<v Speaker 1>changed for you to make you say, all right? I

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>did the music, I did all I've been around the greats,

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I tore the I told the world, had all the cars,

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>did whatever. You know what all us rappers do. You

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>go to the imagination, we don't have to talk about it.

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Then you say, yo, I'm a run for city council.

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Man, man, so many, so many different things. League.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like in nineteen ninety two in Orlando, Florida, we

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 3>had a motel. We ain't even in hotels yet.

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Damn.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 3>It's when you go to that motels that outside. That's right,

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 3>we had the room outside. We're on a TUPAC tour.

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Damn legendary.

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>No real talk.

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 3>It's real talk. Like we're on a TUPAC tour. Outcast

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 3>is opening up Jah Nay with my man Fan from

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Roden Rascals. They got to hey, mister DJ record, that's

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 3>member that Yeah, Major and Big used to come on

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>on with Park sometime on the road. Were on a tour,

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 3>almost getting into something with Pop because we shared a

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Lord shared a van with Pop and Thug Life, so

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 3>most of it was Thug Life and POC and I

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 3>think maybe Lords had about six people with us, like

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 3>sixteen passenger van, and he was just mad because we

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 3>was always late. One of our members was always late.

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 3>You guess it, well, one of our members was always late.

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 3>So I get into it with him because he started

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 3>talking to third person like this my fing tool, you

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 3>know that, and I just felt like he was thisssing

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 3>us and it started to feel embarrassing, you know, the

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 3>thug Life they laughing. So I started talking to third

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 3>person like rappers be acting like they from from Cali

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 3>and they really from Baltimore, you know, like like we're

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 3>getting into it and fourth so right when it really

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 3>gets tense, my other group member gets on the van.

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Fast forward later.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Pop comes to my room, knocks on my door. He's

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 3>bearing gifts. He got a T shirt under one arm.

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I believe I still got that T shirt too, thug

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 3>wife on it with the bullet on the eye. He

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 3>got a new point in one ear blunting the other

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 3>and he got two forty ounces.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 2>So he knock on the door.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 3>And that's when you still have phones and you can

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 3>still smoke in the hotel and get the smoking room,

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 3>smoking room lick and I looked out the curtain. I'm like,

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 3>it's pot so I know that we just went through.

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 3>So I called Lord Jazz, my DJ, and was like, yo,

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 3>pocket in the door.

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, he tripping. I'm like, nah, he just

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>at the door. I'm just letting you know what. I'm

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>about to let him in. If something happened, you already

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 2>know what's happening.

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 3>I let him in. I open the door. He just

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 3>looked at me and he like, you ain't gonna let

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 3>me in. I just I still don't say nothing. I

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 3>just move out the way let him in. It's two

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 3>beds in the room. He sitting on one, I sit

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>on one. He crack open the forty hand me, hand

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 3>it to me, crack open his forty sip it he takes.

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he took the blunt the or

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 3>the cigarette out, but he lit. Probably was the blunt.

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 3>He said he lit the blunt and he looks at

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 3>me and he's like, you know you was wrong, right,

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.240
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I felt like I was wrong,

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 3>but because it's his tool. But I wasn't wrong for

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 3>taking up for myself. That's right, you know what, I

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>hold it down like, I couldn't let you just diss

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 3>our crew. But bro we twenty twenty one. He goes

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>into I ain't never heard of twenty year old to

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 3>this day talk the way that he was talking. And

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 3>he was talking about positivity. He was talking about how

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 3>we shouldn't move from the cities we're from if we

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 3>grew from the soil. From there, he started talking about

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 3>how we gotta turn millions of rappers into millions of

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 3>rapper listen to records, listen to the people who listen

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 3>to rap records into millions of voters. He started talking about.

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 3>And then he said, we got to become legislators. I'm like, legislators, man,

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about?

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Like, man, I'm a rapper she talking about.

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 3>He was like, nah, but if we don't make the vote,

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 3>if we don't make the laws, then the laws will

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 3>be made for us.

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just listening to him.

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 3>He's like, we gotta start nonprofits and create youth programs

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 3>that bridge the gap between our youth and our seniors.

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>That's a fact. Yo, this guy's twenty years old. It's

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>what ninety what two?

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh it don't Lando, Florida.

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, I'm like, all right, Man, I feel

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 3>like I did everything he asked me in that hotel. Man,

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I created a nonprofit organization called two eleven Community Impact.

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>I did everything Man.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I ran for office, but he wasn't the only one.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I had a mentor about the name of my hot

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 3>feast for Reed, who was our manager of Lords and

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 3>the Underground. We had just came off of doing MTV.

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 3>You know how MTV should throw all of those big concerts.

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 3>I was feeling myself again this I was feeling myself

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>a couple of times.

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Asshole moment.

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I got a couple of asshold since then, Washington, I'm sorry,

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I got a couple of asshole moments.

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just keeping this.

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 3>But so, I come off of MTV and usually I've

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 3>been wearing nork on my hats.

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>And clothes for years.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. And this time I had

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>on had T shirt nor everything, and he my man

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>just looked at me. He's like, oh, you norked.

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Out to day.

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Huh. So I don't know why.

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 3>I got defensive, but I was like yeah, like and

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 3>what like yeah, And he was like, what's the last

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 3>thing you did for Newark?

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I got defensive.

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what you mean.

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I just performed in front of millions of people on MTV.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I represented for my city. He was like, I'm not

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 3>talking about marketing and promotion. What was the last thing

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 3>you did for your city?

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>And he stumped me.

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like wow.

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 3>And I promised that day that that would be the

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.439
<v Speaker 3>last day that anybody would ever be able to ask

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 3>me what I did for my city.

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 2>And I can't answer it, do you know?

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 3>And then I started taking my hip hop money and

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 3>started my nonprofit like POxy, and I started investing into

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Team Pregnancy and you know, just things that was affecting

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 3>our youth, going into.

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Schools, doing talks and all of that.

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 3>And then the people later years later, said, yo, we

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 3>want you to be our voice.

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Damn you know that's dope, man.

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 3>And then I wind up in twenty twenty two, I

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 3>wound up becoming the first platinum selling hip hop artists

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 3>to ever win an elected official see in the United

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:14.800
<v Speaker 3>States of America.

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, come on too.

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Because he got the world title for women believe.

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Sean definitely came home on his Obama movie. Definitely, definitely.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I respect it too, man, he out there really making

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the change and doing I respect all because these are

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>things we dreamed about, that we we we wished we

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>could do, and y'all really doing it. So like that

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>makes the difference that's needed because other young black men,

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>older men might see you like they don't even know.

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have no clue that Pop put some of

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that inspirations. Definitely, and I never met Pop. I never

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>saw him personally ever, Like I only know his message,

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>no his story, and know what every other fan knew,

0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>But I never met him to know that he was

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>out there inspiring movements like that.

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Man, if not the governor, at minimum, he would have

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 3>been the mayor of Baltimore or Oakland.

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy to think about that. So where do you

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>place lords of the underground in the golden era conversation?

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Man, that's a great question too, man, I mean you're

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 3>asking one of the lords, So I'm gonna put myself

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 3>up there.

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 2>We usually talk about.

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Groups, right, said yeah, amongst the group conversation man.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Top ten fact top ten.

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>And the reason.

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can ask Kanye too, like, yeah, shout

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 3>out to yay Man. Yeah, yeah, shut out to yay Man.

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I remember him saying that that Lords of the Underground

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 3>was either six or seven on his top ten lists. Yeah,

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 3>and I believe it to be so because when he

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 3>did was the Pablo album.

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was. He got a Pablo album.

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 3>Man, he gave us eight thousand dollars apiece. Like, I'm

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 3>not saying that's a whole bunch of money, but just

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 3>for saying he was the Lord Chief Rocket number one.

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 1>He didn't sample it, he didn't here.

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give you a couple bands each one of

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 3>you because I'm saying something that I respected, that I

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 3>love and it comes from y'all. I'm like, you know

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like, shout out to yay Man, because

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 3>he didn't have to do that.

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 2>He didn't have to even clear nothing.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's one of the most genuine, generous and genuine

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>guys in the music industry that I met. And I

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, a lot of people try to

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:39.399
<v Speaker 1>fault people for their passion. His passion is just high, bro.

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>And when you love what you love and believe what

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you believe, You're gonna fight for it. You can't knock

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 1>a person for the fight just just to say I'm

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>not getting in the fight with you or I'm not

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna help you fight. Don't knock him for the fight.

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>He's fighting, you know what I'm saying. And that's what

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't like. Don't knock the man for the one

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>because he's out here fighting.

0:41:58.120 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>He definitely is.

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 1>It's a war. We all out of war within myself,

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>whether we presented or not, but we out here fighting

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to be better men than we were yesterday.

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 3>And when he came, when he came in search of

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 3>his deal man, he came to New Jersey.

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a fact. Another one went to Newark to get

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that root had you even see on his documentary he

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>locked in the crib and locked in the You know,

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I came to Newark too. I did my last album

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>five three four. I recorded it in guru crib. I

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>recorded it two one hundred percent.

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 2>I recorded it Guru man.

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Niggas don't know he the ya he the Yoda of

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 1>rockaf Man Man, shout.

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Out the Guru man yo, and I'm gonna keep I'm

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna keep our thing with us, Guru, because I know

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 3>you're not camera. Yes, but he asked me never to

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.800
<v Speaker 3>say it on camera, so I respect that. But I

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 3>respect you one thousand a million percent.

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 1>No, Gurlu, that's my guy, man and I Jay gave

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>lots my brother. I love him to death. I wouldn't

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be here without him.

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 2>No doubt.

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>But oh he stole goo from me. My dog. Pay up, Jack,

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>that's my dog, pay up, that's yo dog. Worry highway

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>robbery for Google. Google you with me now, bro, ain't

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>saying no to that. No, I'm in l A right now, blink.

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I call you back many.

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Times I've called Google too, Yo.

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Where you at goo? Oh?

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm in the south of France with the homie.

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Ye all right, cool?

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Hit you back Google in La with the homie Yo.

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>So from Platinum Records, Toys Gold Albums, being the first

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>platinum selling artists to win the Councilman seat like you said,

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>man to now you have a children's book. Man, you

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>can do it.

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 2>All, bro Yo. With that being said, I want to

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>take this time, man. I want to give you a gift.

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Bro. Yeah, of course.

0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:43:57.880 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Look man, so.

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Here you go, man, I know pay pay the boss of.

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:06.839
<v Speaker 1>The boss I ain't even open.

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.959
<v Speaker 2>You can crack it open. You crack it open.

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 3>But but I just because it's something in there for

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you as well, you know what I mean.

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>We got we got the color book.

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>We got that book.

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the book, the children's book.

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>That remember, even your adults need to know you can

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>still do it all. That's right and that's it. That's

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>just it.

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>The adults reading it to their children as a reminder.

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I want to shout out my co author man Kyrie Williams,

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 3>who wrote it with us.

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, crack this open.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Man, You package is amazing, Bro. I love the presentation.

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to make sure you deserve it. Though I

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 3>know you smoked cigars. You might put other things.

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>In the No, no, I do it the real way too, okay,

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>but we got the nice look at caste for you

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and playing a realm. This is this is real real dip.

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 2>But the cigar in it. I want you to understand

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 2>that this is are in it right.

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 3>This is this right here is a Rocky Patel right

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 3>and cigar smokers know as a Rocky it's a disciple.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.280
<v Speaker 2>You wanted the Rocks disciples.

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Bro, So I wanted to make sure that I was

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 3>intentional about get you Rocky Patel.

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Rocky Patel, This might be my new favorite cigar now word,

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:23.399
<v Speaker 1>because all I know iskohebas.

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's the that's the that's the old throwback cooheba,

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>And we got you the mom yes, the t I

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 1>was about to pull that out next. Yeah, some courage,

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah. The tea. You know, little green tea

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, don't hurt nobody.

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Why not green tea?

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Keep you mind your business too, Help you mind your business.

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Y'll help you mind your business. I'm telling you. So

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:47.479
<v Speaker 2>we got you the mug.

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Got courage on there, because man, to keep on going

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 3>to do it after we're not doing records, Man.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:54.720
<v Speaker 2>It takes courage.

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Got the puzzle this bro getting.

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 2>For pay pay man. We got the cape in there

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 2>for her? Oh man, because I hear she's a super girl.

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.319
<v Speaker 1>That's right. She does it all, bro, that's right, so

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 1>we got to do it all. I love this man.

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 1>This is amazing, bro, Like, this is amazing man. Congratulations

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>on this man. The kids believe we need all the

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 1>inspiration for the new youth.

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 3>And the last thing, man, we want to make sure

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that she gets a coloring book too.

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh, man, appreciate it. Bro. I'm coloring too because I

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:29.959
<v Speaker 1>got a teacher. Don't go outside the line.

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Outside.

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>There can't be my kid coloring outside the line.

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Yo.

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>This is amazing, bro, Thank you so much. My brother,

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie irvings Man holding it down kids book. You just

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>said to me you want to do some kiddy stuff

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to promote and inspire. I got the right crew for

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you to link with. We got it, enjoy man. Thank

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 1>you man. So like I said, how did this even

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>come about? What made you want to get into the

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna do the kid's book and give

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the kids some hope. I love it, man, We need

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it man.

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Like I can't front man. Kyrie, Kyrie Williams is the

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 2>one who he was.

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 3>He was pressuring me to I don't know pressure in

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 3>the right world, but you know he was on me

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.919
<v Speaker 3>to make my memoirs because because you know, I don't

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 3>know who that is in your life that that you

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 3>just kind of throw things off and you talk to

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 3>and even if you just just screaming that and he's

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 3>just listening, you know what I mean?

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Like we all need that sometime.

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 3>And Kyrie was one of mine, you know, like I

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 3>could just say whatever, and then at times he'd be like, yo,

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 3>remember when you said such a I don't even remember.

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>He'd be like, yo, you said such and such that

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 2>was a.

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Jewel, Like yo, And he reminds me to live by

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 3>my own words.

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 2>That's right, you know what I mean.

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Definitely need those friends to remind.

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 2>The elbow in your you know.

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 3>And he was the one that he said, Yo, I

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 3>want you to you should write your memoirs because your

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 3>stories is crazy and people don't know that's a fact.

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Just a couple of things you said sitting in here.

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to like yo, but bro, you got

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>some stories, you got some history for real man.

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.839
<v Speaker 3>And I just said, you know what, man, I'm going

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get to it. I'm gonna get to it,

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, being busy, we always I'm gonna get to it.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get to it, but tomorrow might not come right.

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 3>So he said, you know what, do you mind if I.

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Push the book along. I'm gonna call you and.

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 3>Whatever I need from you, can you give it to me.

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm like yeah, he said, all right, So we're gonna

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 3>start with a children's book. I'm gonna start with stories,

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna make it palatable for young people. So

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 3>talk about your failures as a child.

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 2>In that book.

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 3>It talks about me running for school counsel and not

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 3>winning the first year. It talks about me going out

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 3>for the baseball team and not making it the first year.

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.879
<v Speaker 3>It talks about falling and getting up and brushing yourself off.

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 3>And he pushed me to do that, man, And I'm

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 3>forever great, you know, grateful to him for that, because

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 3>this book is doing amazing and it's not something that

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 3>we looked to happen.

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.879
<v Speaker 1>That's the ones that work. Man. It's so crazy. It's

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:14.879
<v Speaker 1>like that in music, bro, think about it. How many

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>times you recorded a song and in your mind you like,

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>this's the one, and then they driving me back walk

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>and then the record You'll be like, I don't know,

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it's cool and people be like that's my joy. You'd

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:26.359
<v Speaker 1>be like what.

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 3>And that's happened with Funky Child chief rocker Away K Deaf,

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 3>who produced those records, who's from Jersey as well. He

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 3>tried to fast forward past those and and myself was like, yo,

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 3>well go back to those.

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like, y'a don't want those, Yo, they became too big.

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 1>No way that I got a record like that round here.

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Just walked in the studio just like, what the hell

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>is that? He's like, man, it's none, that's something I'm

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>just playing with. You don't want that, And I'm like, no,

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>put that beat on right, and it became around here,

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>so I know exactly. For some producers will be like

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 1>they be like us artists not ain't and I don't know,

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 1>and then we hear and be like, no, that's the

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>one right then the one they like, Yo, this is

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the one I made for you. You like, I don't

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>like that one. Yeah, I made this, Yeah, that one like,

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't really like the one you made for me.

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>So when mainstream visibility slowed up after the early nineties,

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 1>what kept the Lord's active touring internationally? Like all that stuff?

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Besides music like af did y'all stay inspired to even

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>even keep going?

0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Lord jazz is the glue between Lords and the underground.

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I DJ I gotta pull up on you in Miami.

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Get some of the alumas. He got almas, he don't

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:45.359
<v Speaker 1>got crazy. He got that almos. Back in the day,

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>we used to play with peeling off your facts that's

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>fact he got the real glue.

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Gazz is the centerpiece of our group because when me

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 3>and Funk as MC started to grow as men and

0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 3>have different ideologies.

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know what I mean, and ideas, Lord.

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:06.279
<v Speaker 3>Jazz was like, oh, this is a covenant, you know,

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:10.400
<v Speaker 3>this is blood brothers. Like these two are my brothers.

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't care if I don't like them. Sometimes we

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 3>vow to each other that we would never break up.

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 3>You know that Laws of the Underground as a group

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 3>is bigger than anything that we ever did.

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Separately and outside of each other.

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:30.919
<v Speaker 3>So collectively we have things that we've done with each

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:34.319
<v Speaker 3>other that we have done with no other person in

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 3>the world. Like Lord Jazz has been around us more

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 3>than he's been around his real brothers.

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I've been around.

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Lord Jazz and Funky Man more than I've been around

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:46.879
<v Speaker 3>my sister and my brother, you know what I mean.

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 3>So they are my family, and I think that that's

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 3>what kept Laws of the Underground together is realizing that

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:58.760
<v Speaker 3>we are more than just two MC's and the DJ family.

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 1>That's dope, man, And I gotta definitely now gotta put

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>y'all on the list because I never thought about that

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>when I think about rap groups, groups break up. It's

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 1>only I only had two groups that never broke up,

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>but now it's three.

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 2>We never broke.

0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Lords of the Underground now the Locks, Smith and Western.

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shout out to Smith and Western too.

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>All the other groups, even run DMC, broke.

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Up and we modeled ourselves.

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying, all groups, even the Vengers broke up. Ye,

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>all groups. So like when you trans transition, like pivot

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 1>into running the campaign and running for counselmen, Like, did

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 1>you face any skepticism from any voters or anything like

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that from the yo, he's a rapper, he can't do this.

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Most definitely, Like, yeah, people did not believe. I don't

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.399
<v Speaker 3>even think and this is not a dis to Mace, right,

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 3>but I think that when Mace became a reverend, a

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 3>lot of people even he just trying to get some money.

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:09.760
<v Speaker 3>He ain't making records no more. I think people felt

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 3>like that about me.

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Like, ah, he ain't doing it no more. So he

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 2>trying to get some.

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 3>A job, you know, And that's just not the case.

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.480
<v Speaker 3>I thought, because I was popular in my city, that

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 3>I was still popular with the youth at the time,

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 3>that this would be a no brain up. And when

0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I first ran eight years ago, I lost, you know,

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 3>I lost, you know, and the.

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Seniors like, he just, what's that rapper boy that's running?

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 2>What's that rapper boy that was running from South Longe

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Avenue in nineteenth Street? They got that rapper boy running?

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 3>And I had to prove to them that I wasn't

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 3>just a rapper boy.

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I told him, like, man, I am what you guys

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 2>prayed for in the neighborhood. Y'all pray for our young

0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 2>people to make it out. I am that prayer answer.

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 2>So how you in front of me? And this is

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:03.439
<v Speaker 2>how I used to talk to them.

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 1>How you in front of me?

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Elder?

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 1>That's right?

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I am what it looks like, a hip hop

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 2>grown up that made it survived, And now I'm asking

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 2>to govern where I grew up at, Like, how.

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Can you front on that? There's a lot of these

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.160
<v Speaker 1>old people stuck in their ways? And then I get it.

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I definitely get it.

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I really had a tough time, but

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 3>me just showing them just being consistent and having a

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 3>track record. Just like you said you didn't know a

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:35.439
<v Speaker 3>lot of things. There are a lot of people who

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.320
<v Speaker 3>didn't know a lot of things that that was because

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 3>of me in.

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:40.279
<v Speaker 1>This city community.

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.280
<v Speaker 3>And then when they started to realize, wait a minute,

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.759
<v Speaker 3>he did that. Oh he did that because I wasn't

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 3>asking for the fame. I had rap to make me famous,

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 3>that's right. I wasn't looking for the community to make

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:51.480
<v Speaker 3>me famous.

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Of course, you know, we've been famous in the community

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 1>since she was a jit. Right, that's not nothing new.

0:54:57.200 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 1>That's when we first get famed. That's what it does.

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Walk world, Why fans, it's the neighborhood thing. You're like,

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, I did this something live over here?

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>What if I go over there?

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Right? If I go over here, yeah, zoo that shine.

0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing man Like, But what was the toughest adjustment?

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>You were saying moving from stage to the city councils.

0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 2>The toughest adjustment.

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 3>And I think I kind of got it down, but

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 3>it's still hard sometimes.

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Is I had to build my patience, you know, I

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:32.480
<v Speaker 2>get people come to the council meetings like that's do nothing.

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 3>He ain't do nothing, he nothing, he ain't doing all

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:43.439
<v Speaker 3>he yo, no way, I mean I'm being a buck

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 3>with you like yo, you know, And that's why. But

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 3>one of my mentors said, keep the receipts of all

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 3>the work you do, so they can say all of that.

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 1>But we got receipts, you know what I mean.

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.719
<v Speaker 3>And I think it's the patience, you know, the name

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 3>calling nothing, because you wouldn't say none of that to

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 3>me if I was and.

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Councilmen in the streets.

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>That's right, you would not know.

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 3>I know you wouldn't you man?

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:09.239
<v Speaker 2>And you know so.

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 3>The being patient, with the name calling, the disrespect, the

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about your family, the all of that type of stuff.

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 3>I had to get used to that, and it's it's

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 3>very hard to get used to.

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Still.

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 3>I learned how to endure, but it's still hard to

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 3>get used to now.

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:29.760
<v Speaker 2>That it's just a boxer can't complain about being a boxer.

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Right when he and a ring at me, he's hitting me.

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 2>You know he's a boxer.

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 1>You chose this, and I believe, like just hearing you

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 1>say it, I think my belief would be I think

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>they put that there to test us because we are

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 1>the minorities. That's the aggressor, they say, so if we're

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna think, you know what, they remember being a kid,

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you always get physical, you always want to get violent.

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 1>What about using your words? How you let words hurt you?

0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:59.800
<v Speaker 1>He didn't touch you, So that's what that sounds like.

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:02.839
<v Speaker 1>They want to push them buttons to see how far

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 1>or how patient you really have. And me, I had

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.800
<v Speaker 1>this conversation with one of my homies from the hood

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>about kids that grow up with fathers and kids that

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 1>don't like I know me looking at how I raised

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 1>my children, that that's something that I missed out on.

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Not have your father president too. And I look at

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 1>all my friends that grew up with their father They

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 1>all have patience and I don't because I was raised

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 1>by a woman. What a woman gonna do everything is fuck?

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck you playing with? What's you saying I'm

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna slap that bad? So you're getting that Mom's coming

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to crist They think I'm playing with this. I'm not

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>sending them no more. So your attitude grows off that.

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like my friends who grew up with fathers,

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like even my son, I taught him something I didn't have.

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have patience, but I made sure he will

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that you not gonna overreact and jump off the ledge

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 1>for things that you could just sit there and be

0:57:57.320 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 1>like man, ain't that serious.

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 3>That's facts, man, I believe that. You know, Raising my

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 3>children with their mom is totally different because I didn't

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 3>have that. I think my mom is one of the

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 3>strongest people in the world.

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Fact, but she couldn't.

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 2>She couldn't show me how to.

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Be a man. No one woman. We can't show a

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>woman how to be a woman, exactly. Man, that's a fact.

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I always looked for mentor the things

0:58:27.840 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 3>that I wanted to become in life. I looked for

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 3>those mentors, and now I wind up becoming that person

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 3>that I used to look for, you know.

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's dope, man.

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 2>And I try to give that to my I give it.

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:39.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't try.

0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 3>I give that to my my children. Whether they accept

0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 3>it or not is another thing they do. They do

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:47.200
<v Speaker 3>trust me.

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I always tell my wife, I say, Yo, we don't

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:53.880
<v Speaker 1>know our kid when they leave our presence, we don't

0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>know them. All we could do is hope they took

0:58:56.280 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 1>all the jewels and process them and interpreting them into

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 1>their life. But when to they leave that house. I

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:05.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know what your kid out there doing talking lot.

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing a TikTok of my son and he

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>out there like yo, bring the right, bring the what.

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>When you started talking like that, he didn't even let

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 1>me follow him on TikTok because he didn't want me to.

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 2>See who he really was, right right, right, really was.

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right, that's right.

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.120
<v Speaker 3>All we can do, man is give them, give them

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 3>the ingredients, give them the tools, and hope they mow

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 3>themselves and become that dish that the world appreciates you.

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:35.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the fact, man, I'm so appreciative that everything you've done,

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:38.160
<v Speaker 1>everything you're doing, man, you keeping it going and you're

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:41.160
<v Speaker 1>giving guys like me hope that you know, it's still

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 1>other chapters that you can still do to give back

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:46.440
<v Speaker 1>because like you say, even with Freeway, I love what

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Freeway doing out there with the kids, you know what

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean. He do the schools, he go talk to

0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the community. He got the thing now where he doing.

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 1>If you lost someone and need to fit and get

0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that off your chance, he got the prayer channel with

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you could come and kick away and talk about ups

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and downs. You know, I just and I tell them

1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I love that that you're doing it, man, because to

1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:11.880
<v Speaker 1>turn your pain into passion is the beauty of life

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 1>to me. Man, to take something that was supposed to

1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:16.960
<v Speaker 1>destroy you and be triumphanus.

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<v Speaker 2>I think too, Bligua. It's like, what's really the end? All?

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<v Speaker 1>Be?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? What I mean by that is like we

1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:27.400
<v Speaker 2>have this destination that we seeking right, all of us.

1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:29.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, I want to make it out the hood.

1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:30.600
<v Speaker 2>And the time I go to schools, how many of

1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:31.800
<v Speaker 2>y'all want to make it out the hood?

1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Everybody raise their head, right, we want to make it

1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:38.520
<v Speaker 3>to this destination, you know, like the highway of life

1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:41.440
<v Speaker 3>to me is like you know, your eyes are like

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 3>the headlights. We see it two hundred feet in front

1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 3>of us.

1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:46.720
<v Speaker 2>That's when we're not moving.

1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:47.400
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:48.400
<v Speaker 2>When you move and.

1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 3>You see another two hundred feet, you move a little more,

1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:53.200
<v Speaker 3>you see another. You start seeing on ramps and off

1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:56.320
<v Speaker 3>ramps that you couldn't notice off in the right right,

1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:58.800
<v Speaker 3>and you start to if you get off of some

1:00:58.840 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 3>of those on ramps and all frames, you start to

1:01:00.840 --> 1:01:02.880
<v Speaker 3>be interested in things that you didn't even know that

1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:05.000
<v Speaker 3>you would be interested in that even.

1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:08.000
<v Speaker 1>While you headed towards your destination, you figure out I

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:10.720
<v Speaker 1>like that, I like this. I would have never told

1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you I like.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, And then when you let's say fast forward.

1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:18.240
<v Speaker 3>You make it to your destination and you get there

1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:19.560
<v Speaker 3>and you realize.

1:01:20.120 --> 1:01:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Damn, this ain't even I want to be. But it's

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:24.840
<v Speaker 2>more about the journey.

1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Because the journey that made you and allowed you to

1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:31.600
<v Speaker 3>get it to your destination, we don't even really want

1:01:31.640 --> 1:01:33.760
<v Speaker 3>to be that when we get we want to be

1:01:33.960 --> 1:01:36.400
<v Speaker 3>everything that it made us to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fact. Like to me, I don't think I

1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:40.360
<v Speaker 1>have an end destination.

1:01:42.120 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 2>That's smart, And I wouldn't have said that that smart

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That is very don't. I just want to keep going

1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:49.960
<v Speaker 1>till I can't go no more. I want to inspire

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<v Speaker 1>till I can inspire no more. And and and that's

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<v Speaker 1>it because the end I feel like is the end,

1:01:56.040 --> 1:01:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like, so I don't want

1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the end go Hell no, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad you said that too, though, Like that you said

1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:06.120
<v Speaker 3>you want to keep inspiring and you can't inspire no

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:09.080
<v Speaker 3>more because I think we're in an influenced stage, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, everybody, and they not influencing nothing, Sandwich. I don't

1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:20.040
<v Speaker 1>want to influenced me how to change my life.

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:23.919
<v Speaker 3>Influence is powerful, but it ain't. It ain't really that thing.

1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:27.160
<v Speaker 3>What you said is that thing inspiration, because when you

1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:30.360
<v Speaker 3>inspired by somebody, you inspirit with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, you know what I'm saying. Believe you know

1:02:32.680 --> 1:02:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you can, man, That's what. That's what made me gravitate

1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to Jazz, Zoe and Jay because they from my neighborhood

1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and I see them with the things that I dream

1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:45.040
<v Speaker 1>about and it's like, if they can do it, I

1:02:45.080 --> 1:02:47.720
<v Speaker 1>can do it too. And that inspiration has been what

1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:50.080
<v Speaker 1>drove me my whole life. Is like to watch your

1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:52.760
<v Speaker 1>friends accomplished and it's like, man, you did it, I

1:02:52.760 --> 1:02:55.200
<v Speaker 1>could do it too. What world? What steps you took?

1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Then you could share tips, knowledge and game and help

1:02:58.240 --> 1:03:01.040
<v Speaker 1>each other climb instead of that's how you get out

1:03:01.080 --> 1:03:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the batton, instead of pushing your homie back in the battery.

1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:08.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's my thing, and I hope I exude that

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<v Speaker 1>to the people when they see me, speak to me,

1:03:11.000 --> 1:03:13.360
<v Speaker 1>meet me, listen to me, like, I hope they get

1:03:13.400 --> 1:03:15.600
<v Speaker 1>some type of inspiration to know, yo, I can do

1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that too, man, Like you know, that's what made me

1:03:18.040 --> 1:03:21.240
<v Speaker 1>do this because everybody was kicking the homie down or

1:03:21.680 --> 1:03:24.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about the chicks or the crimes they come in

1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:27.479
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, yo, famly all of us have more

1:03:27.560 --> 1:03:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to us than just negativity. I have way more positive

1:03:31.520 --> 1:03:34.200
<v Speaker 1>things in my life than negative things. And I don't

1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:36.760
<v Speaker 1>think the people want to heal a negative. You could

1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:39.640
<v Speaker 1>turn on the news and watch negativity all day. All

1:03:39.640 --> 1:03:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do is watch the news you want to

1:03:41.080 --> 1:03:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hear some negative.

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<v Speaker 3>So Moman is a movement, not a movement unless it's

1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:48.360
<v Speaker 3>moving forward, man, not moving back with that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fact, man. So like with this being said, right,

1:03:52.840 --> 1:03:57.120
<v Speaker 1>hip hop began as an anti establishment. How did you

1:03:57.280 --> 1:04:00.280
<v Speaker 1>or how do you navigate being inside the government while

1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:01.840
<v Speaker 1>staying rooted as a coach?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I used to hate politicians like all hip hop,

1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:08.840
<v Speaker 3>even when I first got in my term. Shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to Mayor Baraka.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's right, they're holding it down.

1:04:15.920 --> 1:04:18.959
<v Speaker 2>He's an artist who believes right.

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<v Speaker 3>But I used to say to him and my team,

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't no politician, man, I'm just a dude that

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<v Speaker 3>got elected. I'm right, And the man was like, you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta stop saying you you're not a politician.

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<v Speaker 1>You in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything around us is politics, right, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>how you navigated. And he created a team of people

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<v Speaker 3>who fought for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I believe that who you are is what he

1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:51.640
<v Speaker 3>was talking about, is the same thing Pac was talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to see at the table.

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<v Speaker 3>And if we don't get to see at the table,

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<v Speaker 3>we got enough tools to build one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So when we get at the table, now do

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you said you would do when you

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<v Speaker 2>weren't at that table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that I notice is that

1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:10.040
<v Speaker 3>people don't. They talk, but they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't understand until they get behind this table. Man, until

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<v Speaker 2>they get into any job that they say.

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<v Speaker 3>That, oh I'll do this, I'll do that. It look easy,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not. Then I'll tell you this politics stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>But why do I keep doing it? I keep doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, And I don't like the people that be

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<v Speaker 1>Like if it was me or if I get there,

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<v Speaker 1>I could do this. If you wouldn't do nothing, you

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<v Speaker 1>would do the same thing you're doing right now, just

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<v Speaker 1>talking because if you really was about it, you would

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<v Speaker 1>be doing it. So do it. That's right. Ain't no.

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<v Speaker 1>If like my mom said, if it was a fifth

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<v Speaker 1>we all be drunk. And now I'm sobered in the job.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we're doing, what it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Straight and easy to get elected.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, There's so many different processes, there's so many real

1:05:52.760 --> 1:05:54.000
<v Speaker 3>things that you gotta deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dressing a soup right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I told I told Kyrie, who came with me today,

1:05:59.680 --> 1:06:01.680
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I probably won the award suit today.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm literally coming out of a council meeting, a

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<v Speaker 3>council meeting where we're talking about eighty million dollars and

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<v Speaker 3>eight million dollars on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Project and buying your new garbage trucks because.

1:06:14.360 --> 1:06:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Of twenty of them broke down.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what I mean, just dealing with the

1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:22.120
<v Speaker 3>business of the city and shout out to my council

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<v Speaker 3>colleagues who always there for me to help me walk

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<v Speaker 3>that that walk.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not an.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy thing, no man.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know you've been in meetings or been around

1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:33.760
<v Speaker 3>meetings where they talking about real money.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that they're no playing around, no play can't

1:06:40.400 --> 1:06:45.000
<v Speaker 2>man's lives and I got city lives, ain't no playing around.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not the I'm not the politician because I'm

1:06:48.360 --> 1:06:50.800
<v Speaker 3>hip hop and I got elected and now I'm playing.

1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:54.479
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get the work I gotta right. I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to make change, man, that's dope. So, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're running for re election.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, re election too. I'm twenty six man.

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<v Speaker 3>May twelfth is the re election man and the whole

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<v Speaker 3>Team Baraka.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Team Baraka.

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<v Speaker 3>We're rocking with the mayor, Mayor Raj Baraka again man

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<v Speaker 3>and team Baraka. You know, uh that is myself, Councilman Duprey,

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly do it all as some of y'all, Councilwoman, the

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<v Speaker 3>Fragrance of the Council, Louis Scott, Rowntree, the President of

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<v Speaker 3>the council, c Lawrence Crump, south Ford Councilman Patrick Council.

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<v Speaker 3>You got our North Fork Councilman, Abel Rainbows.

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<v Speaker 2>You got who else we got? We got Mike Silva

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<v Speaker 2>down in the east Ward.

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<v Speaker 3>We got Quintana running for at large and that's our

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<v Speaker 3>team Brocca.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, oh excuse me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we got our Muslim, our Muslima's sister, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>miss Bay, Councilwoman Bay Amina Bay. So that's our team man,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we're rocking with in Newark.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, man. Make sure y'all get out there and

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<v Speaker 1>vote what you said May twelfth, Every vote count, man,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to change your community, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there and be the voice of the community.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's a fact, man. I vote matter. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>let them tell you that. Don't tell them again. Bleave matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if they want you to show y'all, d show

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<v Speaker 1>it because it matters. It matters now if you win

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<v Speaker 1>the reelection? Right when when when Blae, when when you

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<v Speaker 1>were not? Like I said, when when when? See to

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<v Speaker 1>give me tongue to when you win the reelection? What

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<v Speaker 1>impact do you want to be measured by? Ten years

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<v Speaker 1>from now?

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<v Speaker 3>Father, ten years from now, I want to I want

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<v Speaker 3>them to say, this is a young man who grew

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<v Speaker 3>up in his city, went on to have a success

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<v Speaker 3>in entertainment, came back to his city, the same soiler

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<v Speaker 3>that birthed him, and we planted in the saw you

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<v Speaker 3>and did things to make it better than when he

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<v Speaker 3>left it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dope, man. What's next for you? Coming up next?

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<v Speaker 1>So you want the people to know besides me? May twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>get out there, vote, get your butt, your ass, and

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<v Speaker 1>behind your feet your mouth. I don't care whatever. Vote

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<v Speaker 1>what's next? For money?

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<v Speaker 3>Before I say what's next, I want to thank everybody

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<v Speaker 3>who goes out there and campaigns with the people that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't see.

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<v Speaker 1>I see them because I ride through the council places

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. I'm more paid attention to it when

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<v Speaker 1>I moved to Florida because it's a red steak. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I started paying attention to things that I

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<v Speaker 1>took for granted being in New Yorker, in the blue state.

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<v Speaker 1>My whole life got you that you things you you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that they like, oh you can't do that here,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like since win since he said that? Like, So

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<v Speaker 1>I pay attention to the they be out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Were ironic we in that building word up right, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Dope man, that's fire man. So what's next for the

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<v Speaker 1>people to expect from my guys the movement?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we what's next for me? I just did a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometime I don't like saying it until it's done. But

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<v Speaker 2>the deal is done.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's next is you know, vertical movies are the

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<v Speaker 3>next thing. They're worth eight point eight billion dollars. I

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<v Speaker 3>just did a deal me my man, Jimbo Alexander, Jim Alexander.

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<v Speaker 3>We go into pre production for a vertical movie that

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<v Speaker 3>we got called The Shaker Unit that is coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>We probably go.

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<v Speaker 3>Into production, probably in April, pre production in April, then

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<v Speaker 3>probably after the election, we go into principal photography, micro movies,

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<v Speaker 3>vertical movies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>With that being said, do a vertical micro cube, shake

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<v Speaker 1>rectang right movie of your life, bro, Because to come

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<v Speaker 1>from what you did accomplishments the motivation from some of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys like come on the story about two past,

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<v Speaker 1>his music is inspirational for you to sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>say he gave you inspiration, Like then Molly Marl looks

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<v Speaker 1>all for nest Or, Bro. Your story, that's box office man.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they'll be changing your neighborhood, your roots. That's box

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<v Speaker 1>office bro.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at TikTok video, if you go back

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<v Speaker 3>to a laws, that underground video called TikTok see we

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<v Speaker 3>had tiktokk world. If you see me jumping the gate

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<v Speaker 3>running from the police, that's me depicting me running from

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<v Speaker 3>a council person in my neighborhood who became one of

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<v Speaker 3>my mentors, Ron Rice, Me depicting running from him. And

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<v Speaker 3>now I am the councilman in that neighborhood. That's crazy

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<v Speaker 3>life for man.

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<v Speaker 1>Life repeats itself and I always say that. Man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing about living it. We love it and

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Man, I thank you for coming following

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<v Speaker 1>my brother. You much love that everything. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>get out there and vote May twelfth, we're gonna re

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<v Speaker 1>elect my god. Do it all for city councilmen. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you got time with your kids, make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>kids better know you can do anything. Man, stay silid.

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<v Speaker 3>And on May thirteenth, about that, dude, sir, let's go,

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<v Speaker 3>my gee love bro.

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