Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
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Speaker 2: You should nobody know.
Speaker 1: You should nobody know. Yeah, y'all, you already know what
Speaker 1: it is. Yours truly back with another exclusive episode of
Speaker 1: Rock Solid, and this one right here. It's special when
Speaker 1: you have someone that was a childhood favorite. Really, when
Speaker 1: you listen to the music, it takes you right back
Speaker 1: the way you was. Let's welcome not only rapper do
Speaker 1: it all, city councilman, do it all to the building.
Speaker 1: Now you know what, my brother, I'm good man, yo, man.
Speaker 1: The evolution of hip hop is amazing, brother, to see
Speaker 1: you over here from rap bars, the change in the laws,
Speaker 1: yes said, he.
Speaker 3: Still got bars, you know, man, man dope, Yo man, man,
Speaker 3: I appreciate you man making easy money, yo.
Speaker 1: Ain't I ain't pimping no more. I'm tired. Love lockdown,
Speaker 1: love lockdown, That's what it was growing up.
Speaker 2: Hip hop.
Speaker 1: Hip hop looks like, yes, you know, I love it. Man.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go back before we keep taking the present,
Speaker 1: because the year is nineteen ninety three. I remember being
Speaker 1: in my house video music box, so all we had
Speaker 1: was video music box or the box. I didn't have
Speaker 1: enough money for the box, so all we had was
Speaker 1: video music box. Shout out Ralph McDaniels.
Speaker 2: Shout out Ralph Man, Happy anniversary.
Speaker 1: Here comes the laws Man drops Yes, produced by Mally
Speaker 1: mas I signing. Oh wow, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Know that K Death did the hits man Like produced.
Speaker 1: What was that like at A eighty three to have
Speaker 1: a major hit by a major producer and you were
Speaker 1: signed to Marley mal Like in nineteen eight. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even imagine which I was living. So I want to
Speaker 1: hear from you, yo.
Speaker 3: It's like a dream come true. Like I am so
Speaker 3: hip hop man, Like I am hip hop, that's right.
Speaker 3: Like I'm never gonna stop being hip hop with anything
Speaker 3: that I do. But with that being said, we I
Speaker 3: was the young the young homie that recorded Mally mal
Speaker 3: Pau's tape on WBLS.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, the sessue on the tape.
Speaker 3: I'm recording Molly mal and mister Magic on BLS. I'm
Speaker 3: listening to all of that and we go off. You know,
Speaker 3: I want to be a rapper I'm trying to get
Speaker 3: a deal that doesn't work out, well, says you know,
Speaker 3: if it does not work out, you are going to school.
Speaker 1: That's right, So everybody, so everybody. So I went to school, man, I.
Speaker 3: Went to Show University because it didn't seem like it
Speaker 3: was working out.
Speaker 2: And Raleigh, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Man, yeah, man n C.
Speaker 3: And it felt like it was starting to happen because
Speaker 3: Mallie Maul's cousin went to our school.
Speaker 2: Derek L. A. Jackson. Now, Derek is the same guy
Speaker 2: who found Scott.
Speaker 3: Storch Oh wow, Yeah, and he managed Coolio and all
Speaker 3: of those Mountain Deuke commercials that you used to see
Speaker 3: with Nicki.
Speaker 2: Minaj and Lil Wayne and all of that. All that
Speaker 2: was Derek L. A. Jackson, And he found the roots damn.
Speaker 1: Clug.
Speaker 2: He was in college with our DJ, DJ Lord Jazz.
Speaker 2: Shout yea Lord Jazz living.
Speaker 1: You see what's so dope about the era? Back then,
Speaker 1: the DJ got just as much as the artist. Today,
Speaker 1: it's just like, hey, that's my DJ. Dog Biggas just
Speaker 1: focused on the artist. So that's dope that all three
Speaker 1: of y'all grew together.
Speaker 3: Lord Jazz founded Lords of the Underground, We say that
Speaker 3: because La was his best friend in college and Lord
Speaker 3: Jazz was the DJ at all of the parties, all
Speaker 3: of the Greek parties, all.
Speaker 2: Of that type of stuff.
Speaker 3: And La was graduating and he was going to work
Speaker 3: for his cousin, who just happened to be Marley mal
Speaker 3: And he said, Yo, when I go work for Marli,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a try to get a group in there.
Speaker 3: He was like, former group, when I go work for Marli.
Speaker 3: So he would let me rhyme at all of the parties.
Speaker 3: And he would never let funk rahm at the parties.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wouldn't let funk ram at the parties. I guess,
Speaker 2: expressing them so much.
Speaker 3: And then one day Man, he asked us to come
Speaker 3: up to the radio station and we set a rhyme
Speaker 3: that we wrote together, and they sent the tape, which
Speaker 3: was Psycho. They sent that tape that we was rhyming
Speaker 3: over dress from Black Sheep and you know, roming over.
Speaker 3: I think it might have been flavored a month or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: Wow. He sent it to.
Speaker 2: Shout to send it to Malie.
Speaker 3: Man and Molly called Man and said, Yo, when y'all
Speaker 3: come into the house.
Speaker 2: It Hits and the rest became history.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: So to answer your question, being able.
Speaker 3: To be in front of Molly Mal who I used
Speaker 3: to record from the radio, it was just it was
Speaker 3: amazing to me. The first time we walked into the
Speaker 3: house it Hits, which was upstate New York at the time.
Speaker 3: You know, we pull up to this white house upstate
Speaker 3: New York. You see a red path. Fonder, you see
Speaker 3: a red pile, you see a red BMW.
Speaker 2: All the cards was red.
Speaker 3: This one Mally had the ring back in that day
Speaker 3: before anybody had the ring. You pressed his bell and
Speaker 3: he could see you and you talked to him.
Speaker 2: We went in.
Speaker 3: Dang, it's a little skinny kid standing in between the
Speaker 3: SSL and back then it was only two people that
Speaker 3: had ssls in their home, or maybe three, I think,
Speaker 3: Prince Molly Mal and Teddy Riley. And it's this little
Speaker 3: skinny kid with a bell can go on and a
Speaker 3: white beater on and he's all you hear is.
Speaker 2: Mama said, knock you out.
Speaker 3: It was yo, chill, yo, this is this is young
Speaker 3: kids like, yes, it's legendary. Ll was like the god,
Speaker 3: yes you know, and he said, yo ta yo tad,
Speaker 3: I want you to meet my new group. We ain't
Speaker 3: even had the name yet, you know. And he turned around,
Speaker 3: he looked at us, He licked his lips. He turned
Speaker 3: the music down him like what up beat? Then he
Speaker 3: turned it back up. Mama said, knock you out. They
Speaker 3: was mixing. Mama said, knock you out. I turned to
Speaker 3: the crew.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, we made it word up like
Speaker 1: we here we in the president are real right now.
Speaker 1: But damn, like you said, you was in Shaw University
Speaker 1: pledge Alpha Pi Alpha.
Speaker 2: I didn't even fold alpha.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Step, How did that shape
Speaker 1: your leadership? You know what I mean? Mindset that you
Speaker 1: carried today.
Speaker 3: Man, it's difficult, right, Like it was difficult when you
Speaker 3: come from and I know you know League coming from Brooklyn,
Speaker 3: when you come from those inner cities.
Speaker 2: Man, you just believe and know what you know?
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: So when somebody introduced something foreign to you, first thing
Speaker 3: we do is we push back to those things that
Speaker 3: that's unfamiliar to us.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: And when I first went to school, I only went
Speaker 3: to school because I got in trouble, right, I got
Speaker 3: I got locked up, I got caught Joe Rod.
Speaker 2: And then I got charged with a gun. I got
Speaker 2: charged with the drugs. That was I was looking at
Speaker 2: seventeen years God damn.
Speaker 3: And the councilman at the time shout out to my
Speaker 3: mentor Hot Feast for Red, who went on to manage
Speaker 3: laws of the underground. But the council he was the
Speaker 3: chief of staff to the councilman. And shout out to
Speaker 3: doctor Ralph T. Grant Senior. He's still living man eighty
Speaker 3: almost nineties, ninety something years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he lives in Florida.
Speaker 3: You know, you know where the retired right And you
Speaker 3: know he said, Joe, I know you not this type
Speaker 3: of dude. Let me let me write some letters to
Speaker 3: the judges and to the courts and see if I
Speaker 3: can get some lesser things to happen. Long story short,
Speaker 3: they come back the court saying you gotta go to school.
Speaker 2: You go to school. I had to paint some polls
Speaker 2: and all that. They said.
Speaker 1: I've been there.
Speaker 3: I've been there, you know, went to school and that's
Speaker 3: where I met the people that changed my life.
Speaker 2: But even back to the councilman, that was the counselman
Speaker 2: that everything that he showed me.
Speaker 3: I wound up becoming an alpha like him. I wound
Speaker 3: up going to the same school that he graduated.
Speaker 2: And I can't make this up.
Speaker 3: And now, as the counselman of North New Jersey, I
Speaker 3: have the same office that he had as the counselor.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's like as full three sixty to be
Speaker 1: standing there looking at it as a juveie looking at
Speaker 1: them helping you on some criminal activity, to now you
Speaker 1: the counselman in that same spot and able to give
Speaker 1: the same opportunity to maybe another misfortunate young you know,
Speaker 1: young man out here in the wrong place, wrong time.
Speaker 1: So damn man, you doing all of that college and
Speaker 1: that's dope that you got in the situation. And they
Speaker 1: made you go to school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they made me go to school. That was back then.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know if they're gonna do that now.
Speaker 1: What happened in my era, They just put you in truan. See,
Speaker 1: it took you to the preset, your moms came and
Speaker 1: got you. You still was dumb yesterday as you was
Speaker 1: that day. They did not say, hey, we're gonna sign
Speaker 1: you up to college and get you right. Was none
Speaker 1: of that. So all of that happening, and then Chief Rocker,
Speaker 1: Chief Rocker drops buzzing nationally everywhere radio send it like
Speaker 1: to me, I think that was maybe you know, back
Speaker 1: in the day listening to music, you didn't know what
Speaker 1: records went gold, what records were platt, no, what records
Speaker 1: was not. As a kid, you didn't care. I think
Speaker 1: that record would the first time I noticed, like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, this ship is everywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, that was a blessing man.
Speaker 3: But I think before we even get the Chief rock up,
Speaker 3: we have to rewind too.
Speaker 2: Like I think it was the build up.
Speaker 3: We had like five videos, as you know, shout out
Speaker 3: to Rubin Rodriguez who ran Pendulum Records.
Speaker 1: Angel I remember shout they had one record that last forever, forever, forever.
Speaker 1: They ain't even in the video. They was cool as mother, cool, cool.
Speaker 2: Like that, right.
Speaker 3: But I think we have to rewind, like and go
Speaker 3: back to Funky Child, right, so funky shot, Like first
Speaker 3: Psycho was bubbling and and it became okay, but then
Speaker 3: Funky Child dropped and that stuff. You know, I went
Speaker 3: into the went into the video with the diaper.
Speaker 1: On, yo, the baby, oh you the baby?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, heard up.
Speaker 1: He was the first one to set it off.
Speaker 2: And actually we got that from Parliament Funkadelic.
Speaker 1: No way at the time, shout out you and the
Speaker 1: baby y'all the only tour my life flying I seen
Speaker 1: doing and y'all held it down. Man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean when you.
Speaker 3: Got Funky Child to come out. I remember being at
Speaker 3: Rosco Chicken and Waffles uh in La. You know, back then,
Speaker 3: everybody had a record representative in each city that was
Speaker 3: a good good and our record representative came in and
Speaker 3: they slid the billboard tours and they said, congratulations you
Speaker 3: number one.
Speaker 2: This is a Funky Child. So we're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but the.
Speaker 3: Record representative was still like kind of like down, so
Speaker 3: we're like, yo, he just said we number one?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: And he said, I want to apologize to y'all. I'm
Speaker 3: like apologize for what he said because we didn't think
Speaker 3: this record would move so we didn't push it.
Speaker 2: So were like, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: The record went number one and we.
Speaker 2: Like, he like, yeah, man, it could have really been
Speaker 2: been that record.
Speaker 1: Funky Child, is it? Like think? Uh? French Matanda revived.
Speaker 2: That out the French.
Speaker 3: We had a we had a long talk with him
Speaker 3: about you know, I was I was upset with French
Speaker 3: at first, French. I was upset with you, but because
Speaker 3: this French is my dude now, but I was upset
Speaker 3: with and Max has always been my guy, but French.
Speaker 3: We was upset with French because we felt like when
Speaker 3: you did the video, when you did the song, you
Speaker 3: didn't reach out to the homies to originated, just invite
Speaker 3: us in the video so we can be like this
Speaker 3: in the video, you know, and it wasn't and then
Speaker 3: come to find out it wasn't even him, it was
Speaker 3: his crew and all.
Speaker 2: You know, so but were cool.
Speaker 1: French is cool and I mean that that recad bro.
Speaker 1: I think that rec gonna live forever. Like I was
Speaker 1: talking to my partner cheat you off screen and he
Speaker 1: was like yo. He was like if I remember, He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Lords, the Underground might have the last
Speaker 1: breakdancing record released.
Speaker 3: And that's what That's what I'm getting to too. So
Speaker 3: when he told us that Funky Child, they didn't push.
Speaker 3: The next record was Chief Rocker. So now they didn't
Speaker 3: believe or push Funky Child.
Speaker 1: When they put.
Speaker 3: Everything in the Chief Rocker, that made Chief Rocker a
Speaker 3: top forty hit, and that changed our lives.
Speaker 1: What video was that I'm trying I want to say
Speaker 1: the wrong song. But y'all shot a video in Newark,
Speaker 1: I believe, and it was at night. The video was
Speaker 1: that Chief Rocker or Lord Child that that was? That
Speaker 1: was funky that video bro like classic by Gee. I
Speaker 1: was mobbing in Newark.
Speaker 3: Like, let me give you a history about Funky Child cover.
Speaker 3: I never said this on any interview ever. We were
Speaker 3: supposed to have that cover with baby pictures of us,
Speaker 3: and Funk could not find a baby picture of himself.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: That's how it was.
Speaker 3: Back like his mom's you know, God bless Auntie. She
Speaker 3: had passed on my birthday.
Speaker 1: That's different to him.
Speaker 3: We signed on January twelfth to Mary and funk Mom's
Speaker 3: past on January fourteenth, which is my birthday.
Speaker 2: So it's the best day of his life than the
Speaker 2: worst day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he couldn't find any of his baby pictures and
Speaker 3: then next thing, you know, Big comes out with the
Speaker 3: big baby picture.
Speaker 1: It was mad drama over the baby pictures. Y'all had
Speaker 1: drama over the the Funk yeah being the Funky Child,
Speaker 1: like Hi being the Funk your man, Yo. It was
Speaker 1: mad drum because I remember lording that's you know, they
Speaker 1: came out. What was his album The Funk some turn
Speaker 1: the Return of the y'all was Lords.
Speaker 2: Of the No we was the Lords of the Underground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all was, but no y'all was.
Speaker 3: The record was funky, yes, but people used to say
Speaker 3: it was the return of the Funky Chap.
Speaker 1: That's what called I remember as a shorter. You know,
Speaker 1: this was back with right word. All that stuff is out.
Speaker 1: You get your like, yo, this is going on. Then
Speaker 1: when I spoke the Guru, I told him I interview,
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, gotta bring up that because this was
Speaker 1: a big time, big movement and then like the funk sound. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like there is no originator to it. Nah,
Speaker 1: right because Lord foressing them did what they did with
Speaker 1: the Diamond D and.
Speaker 2: Them shout out to d I TC.
Speaker 1: Y'all came out and changed the pushed the envelope further,
Speaker 1: and then RADMN came out and took it even further.
Speaker 3: Let's even take it further than that, right, So Parliament, Parliament,
Speaker 3: Funk Cadelic is from New Jersey, so all of the
Speaker 3: sampling of.
Speaker 2: The funk in the West Coast, that's New Jersey, New Jersey.
Speaker 1: Damn. So foressing them was wild no.
Speaker 3: Not even just for that, like the West Coast gets
Speaker 3: the credit for that funk sound in hip hop.
Speaker 2: Yes, but they were sampling a Jersey artist. You see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, I mean shout out the shout
Speaker 2: out the Finesse too. Man.
Speaker 1: For now, I've met him at an award show. He's
Speaker 1: super dupe. One of the illest lyricists I met coming up.
Speaker 1: I respect all the OG's, that's one thing. All of
Speaker 1: y'all paved a way for us to do what we
Speaker 1: do today. And if guys don't know lords in the underground,
Speaker 1: digging in the crates, Molly, ma, you're doing a disservice
Speaker 1: to yourself a hip hop like like, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't like keep bringing up the young and the old.
Speaker 1: But little Yachty man what he said about you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, rappers Delight. It's just like, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, that's blasphemy.
Speaker 3: And you know what's crazy about little Yachty Like his
Speaker 3: mother went to our college.
Speaker 1: Damn, no way, yo, chill. So Mama Yati sitting again, Mama.
Speaker 2: Yati right Shaw University. Man.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean shout out to Yachty. So when
Speaker 3: we found out out, I was like, wow, she should
Speaker 3: have schooled the more what happened on Yes for sure, man, definitely.
Speaker 3: But back to the Chief Rocker.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: So after after Funky Child, you know, we were on
Speaker 3: the weird platform, and then we switched to the EU
Speaker 3: my platform with Chief Rokker, and they poured all of
Speaker 3: those dollars, all this promotion and marketing dollars, marketing dollars
Speaker 3: into that, and man, Chief Rocker just changed our lives.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: We got to buy our mother home, mother's homes, ourselves homes.
Speaker 2: And you can tell a difference from it hit.
Speaker 1: I know, you know you people hit radio hit is
Speaker 1: better than the digital hit. Oh you see, way more money, definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, like how the game is bregged
Speaker 1: that way, and I don't own the money machine, but
Speaker 1: that radio hit and I come on ninety three ninety four, bro,
Speaker 1: that was That's all it was was radio. There was
Speaker 1: no digital, It was no end in Thatt radio. So
Speaker 1: y'all got to see the full fledge of what rappers
Speaker 1: today can only dream of.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 1: I came in on the tail end of it, and
Speaker 1: we had the jyrules and the murdering radio Nelly. It
Speaker 1: was like get your record in Nigga. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of competition. Member, it's nine slots. It's only nine
Speaker 1: slots on the radio. Jah had three, Luda had two,
Speaker 1: Nelly had two, and Jay got the rest. They looking
Speaker 1: at you like where you want me to put your
Speaker 1: record outside the radio?
Speaker 2: I got your right. It was that Monday of music, Wednesday,
Speaker 2: Mondays and Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, new money. There used to be new money break
Speaker 1: it Thursday. Member. They used to be like what was
Speaker 1: this ship? Rocket or jacket or used to do rocket
Speaker 1: or socket rocking? Sick? Yeah, yo, like back then, like
Speaker 1: when did the how you said you was on pendulum?
Speaker 1: But then how did the death Jam thing happen?
Speaker 3: Well, we wasn't see Redman was on Death Jam and
Speaker 3: people like, you know that's my brother.
Speaker 2: That's I got four Godfathers for my I call them
Speaker 2: for my son.
Speaker 3: Man right angels, Yeah, man, they the Mount Rushmore Godfathers, Man,
Speaker 3: Red Man and Lord Finness, Michael Bivens from New Edition.
Speaker 1: And Trench God damn. He got it all.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they spoiled the message.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got it all. He got gangster shows skills
Speaker 1: because I wanted to rapa Redman. He don't know that
Speaker 1: he know now see this, but when that first album
Speaker 1: The What Crazy, I studied that out razing.
Speaker 3: He's a legend man, He's one of my favorite monkst
Speaker 3: being my brother, but he used to be my DJ.
Speaker 1: Chill Redman is a DJ two.
Speaker 2: Red Man was my DJ before he was Redman, the
Speaker 2: Murderous Yo Chill.
Speaker 1: Not Muddy Waters DJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was my DJ man And he's just always been
Speaker 3: a fire MC even when he was DJing. We had
Speaker 3: this set that we used to do where he would
Speaker 3: be cutting.
Speaker 1: While he's rapping.
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And he just been a He just been an ill
Speaker 3: MC man all along. So Saluthor, Regie noble Man always
Speaker 3: been fire for real.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of talent came from New Jersey period,
Speaker 1: but from Newark, New Jersey. A lot of y'all man
Speaker 1: like Tratch you rad mean, Queen Latifa, definite fucking.
Speaker 2: Fuji's, all of them, Lauren wykleft.
Speaker 1: Fuji's even Whitney Houston on Nippy Shack Shock. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of great came from Newark, New Jersey. And I
Speaker 1: don't think y'all get the respect for that for carving
Speaker 1: out a lot of shit that us in this world lived. Like,
Speaker 1: come on, bro, if you take Shock, all the music,
Speaker 1: take the Fooji's, Whitney Houston, what we got how many
Speaker 1: like it's it gonna be a lot of voids out
Speaker 1: there that need feeling, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Definitely, man And we used to say that a lot too,
Speaker 3: Like we love New York City being so close in
Speaker 3: proximity to y'all, you know what I mean, Like this
Speaker 3: is the mecca, the BX is the mecca.
Speaker 2: But we felt like in the nineties we had everybody's
Speaker 2: world up. You know, we had our brothers from Trenton,
Speaker 2: you know what i mean, like Cam Cam Trent Like
Speaker 2: we had.
Speaker 3: So many people man from I mean, you got h
Speaker 3: Channel Live, you got.
Speaker 1: Artist handles, live, Outlaws.
Speaker 3: You just had so many different people, man, that were
Speaker 3: rocking in the nineties hip hop. And we just feel
Speaker 3: like sometimes we don't get mentioned enough that life comes
Speaker 3: the nineties hip hop.
Speaker 1: They don't even know like Eminem went to Newark and
Speaker 1: got a lot of his roots too from running around
Speaker 1: with the guys out there. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know that too. They came to the outside, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They think all them flows came from a male.
Speaker 1: Now half them just came from Newark, New.
Speaker 2: Jersey too, Shout out Tom Man.
Speaker 1: Definitely. He was definitely love man always. And you know
Speaker 1: what I love about rap man that when you really
Speaker 1: into it, it ain't where you from like they say,
Speaker 1: it's where you at. Because he was a Detroit guy.
Speaker 1: And I heard more stories about him in New New
Speaker 1: Jersey than I did in Detroit.
Speaker 2: That's right, man, Yeah, I mean he was, he was there.
Speaker 2: He was in the outshouse. Yes, so we used to
Speaker 2: call it the outshouse.
Speaker 1: Man, Come digger man up, y'all got goats, New Jersey, Joe.
Speaker 2: Biden, come on, shout the button word up man.
Speaker 3: I mean young z like he was with them, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So, I mean it was only
Speaker 3: best that he had to get their game up or
Speaker 3: they would have took his head off.
Speaker 1: That's a fact, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you you you've been around greats,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And when you've been in Baseline, you.
Speaker 1: Had to come with it or take your head off.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's the time. Remember Rockefeller, we had
Speaker 1: what ten artists. Baseline only had two rooms. People think
Speaker 1: Baseline was a room for everybody. Hell no, it was
Speaker 1: two rooms and you could not be in there bullshitting
Speaker 1: with bars. That was the number one thing. Hold come
Speaker 1: in there, I mean what you got Oh you bullshit
Speaker 1: with bars? Gurule turn this off, yo, bring bring these
Speaker 1: news beans in the man. It was. It was just
Speaker 1: like that, like either you gonna have it or you don't.
Speaker 1: Next man up, who got it in there?
Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy, you say beans? Shout out the beans
Speaker 3: mashed my dogs him and Freeway did. They did a
Speaker 3: bunch of community stuff for me in the community man
Speaker 3: in our hood in Irvington and the noyork excuse me
Speaker 3: and shout out to them man that that they don't
Speaker 3: see it to be robbery to still come and do
Speaker 3: some community stuff. But I remember one time, man, my
Speaker 3: first time beans. I wanted to do beans.
Speaker 2: Remember this, but uh, what was their management? Black hand?
Speaker 1: Yeah, black hand?
Speaker 2: Right, so I was real rolling? What up in real roller?
Speaker 2: I know they remember a producer by the name of
Speaker 2: Black Friday.
Speaker 1: Black Friday, yeah, black hand and queens. It took me
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 3: It's no thank you for therection enough because I know
Speaker 3: black no we queen, but Black Friday. We was in Philly.
Speaker 3: I want my man Craig King, producer Craig King. You
Speaker 3: might remember me did some stuff for Yay, did some
Speaker 3: stuff with Luda A Leah, a bunch of people. But
Speaker 3: he asked me to take a ride with him in Philly.
Speaker 3: We go to this inconspicuous house, you know, in Philly,
Speaker 3: on some crazy block. I go in and this is
Speaker 3: probably like ninety nine, maybe when Beans came out.
Speaker 1: Two thousand to two thousands album dropped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about ninety nine.
Speaker 1: I go in.
Speaker 2: The house is all dimly lit, you know.
Speaker 3: We sitting down at the table with Black Friday, and
Speaker 3: Beans is standing in the corner light.
Speaker 2: He's waiting for something like security. And we sit down
Speaker 2: and he comes over to me and he like, I
Speaker 2: love sleep for dinner. That's my favoring record. And then
Speaker 2: he goes back to the corner.
Speaker 3: I'm walking like, yo, who is next time I saw Beans,
Speaker 3: he was in a Bentley.
Speaker 1: Yo chill Ye Beans was a Bentley man. Yeah two
Speaker 1: he had two up at one time. It used to
Speaker 1: come to me bleak the Bentley hot let me hold
Speaker 1: a ben switch out with it spaking, No problem. I
Speaker 1: don't want this shit anyway, right or man? So nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, when fucking how can I say this? Man?
Speaker 1: After keepers of funk in the industry shifted, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? The label support back then shifted to
Speaker 1: what was the mindset of y'all moving forward from then?
Speaker 3: Like, that's a great ass question, leek, that's a great question.
Speaker 3: And I'm saying that's a great question because I want
Speaker 3: the young and to taints and artist to understand out there,
Speaker 3: never stop going, Never believe that.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm on, I got to hit. I'm good. Never
Speaker 2: stop because we was rich as hell in ninety four.
Speaker 1: I feel you know what I'm saying A hundred bro, I.
Speaker 2: Feel you you can get kind of lazy.
Speaker 3: You can get like, oh they want what, No tell them,
Speaker 3: we want such and such, or they want to not
Speaker 3: tell them only if it's twenty first.
Speaker 2: Class, ye tell you know.
Speaker 1: Start feeling yourself.
Speaker 3: Feeling yourself, man, and and if you ain't feeling yourself,
Speaker 3: you ain't.
Speaker 1: Touch it, right, That's right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. You ain't really see success if you
Speaker 1: ain't start thinking, if you ain't get big, had it
Speaker 1: or think you left earth?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you left earth.
Speaker 1: You ain't see success for real.
Speaker 2: I don't mean you ain't.
Speaker 3: You ain't had a chance to come back, but yes,
Speaker 3: you know, you start feeling yourself a little bit. And
Speaker 3: I think ninety four we riches. I don't know what
Speaker 3: we got keepers of the funt recording while we're on tour.
Speaker 3: Once we went to Chicago in ninety two, like the
Speaker 3: end of ninety two, we hadn't been home for like damn, damn.
Speaker 2: They it felt like three years. I mean periodically we
Speaker 2: hadn't we hadn't.
Speaker 1: Been last right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And we was just rich, rocking, and you know, and
Speaker 3: when that album came, that hunger that we did and
Speaker 3: here come the Lords of This is just something we love.
Speaker 3: We don't even care if it comes out. Almost I
Speaker 3: think that we started questioning everything, well.
Speaker 2: How many points for this? Or how many is this?
Speaker 2: And how many is that?
Speaker 3: Or what this looked like or what these numbers? You
Speaker 3: start doing the business while you're trying to do the rat.
Speaker 1: I tell people that all these young artists, I tell them,
Speaker 1: once it become one because you do it for free,
Speaker 1: for the love. That's how we always started. For the love.
Speaker 1: Once they give you that checking, you look like I
Speaker 1: got this oh yes for that right now, it becomes
Speaker 1: a business and you start trying to shoot for bigger checks.
Speaker 1: That's our same check, and it's you're not the love
Speaker 1: that you did it for. The music is just not
Speaker 1: coming out the same.
Speaker 3: In it man, and and you know, Keepers of the
Speaker 3: Funk still did amazing. You know, we went gold initially
Speaker 3: with it. I think it's already somewhere around platinum now,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't the same vigor that we we approached
Speaker 3: it when when here come the Lords and we were
Speaker 3: still on the road, so we couldn't just lock in
Speaker 3: into the studio and we could have, but we didn't
Speaker 3: stop pausing of getting the money to you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So I think the mad and then the
Speaker 3: industry was switching. Yes, I remember Ruben Rodriguez shout out
Speaker 3: to Supreme.
Speaker 2: Seed Man, Supreme Seed. He actually married wy.
Speaker 1: Cleft's sister mouth Man.
Speaker 3: Music business is czy, but Supreme See, we had a
Speaker 3: record with him called Never Faded and shout out to
Speaker 3: everybody loved they never Faded It kills on the rule.
Speaker 3: But at that time the record company wanted us to
Speaker 3: lead with that single. I know we wanted to lead
Speaker 3: with that single. But they wanted to lead with the
Speaker 3: Nise Williams Keep the Faith, which almost sounded like an
Speaker 3: inspirational churchy vibe lords and under Oh your Lord's underground,
Speaker 3: this churchy vibing.
Speaker 2: The streets wanted never fade, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So we went, of course with the record company because
Speaker 3: they're gonna put all of the money into this. We
Speaker 3: had Denise Williams shout out the Nise Williams. She's a legend,
Speaker 3: she's singing on it. But the streets wanted the grimy right,
Speaker 3: and then mob and all of them was coming, and
Speaker 3: we didn't put that out first.
Speaker 1: We put out the nice record, Nice Record because they
Speaker 1: wanted to go crossover. So when the labels tell you
Speaker 1: we got to go crossover, let's go for ads, yest's
Speaker 1: go for radio. And then they had you in there
Speaker 1: like this, like yeah, I might go be l two.
Speaker 2: The underground we wanted never faded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had me in there. It was Joe, Rue
Speaker 1: Nelly and them, Yo, we need that you in there,
Speaker 1: Like now, j'a do got muscles? I hang with the nigga.
Speaker 1: I might do that. Go try niggas, Like dang't you
Speaker 1: take that back? To the boy homie. So I feel
Speaker 1: you with that.
Speaker 3: Like listening, man, and I think that we didn't.
Speaker 2: Kind of line up aligned.
Speaker 3: With the switch was you know, like I said, we
Speaker 3: young dudes who just got our mothers and families out
Speaker 3: of the hood and rich.
Speaker 1: So that's the that's the main, that's the most important,
Speaker 1: the thing to accomplish when you get into this, because
Speaker 1: that's what we wanted. Man, you picked up that pen.
Speaker 1: I know me, Man, I was tired of looking at
Speaker 1: roaches in the crib try hanging from the ceiling. I'm
Speaker 1: tired of opening up that pot, Mi whatch you cook
Speaker 1: and it's just everything in the cabin throwing in one fig.
Speaker 1: It was like, nah, go outside the homies. That's hustling.
Speaker 1: He buying pizza, he buying pigs, patties, his nigga buying sneakers,
Speaker 1: whatever he wants. Like, I gotta figure something out. And
Speaker 1: then you start writing your pain down and then you
Speaker 1: get paid for it and here you are. And then
Speaker 1: like in ninety four, ninety three, ninety two, men to
Speaker 1: have a gold record back then, it's equivalent today to
Speaker 1: be in double platinum. Like seriously, because you literally, like
Speaker 1: I said, it was no digital nothing. Five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: people had to physically get us walk in that store
Speaker 1: and purchase that CD, that tape and keep it pushing.
Speaker 1: So that's a major accomplishment because it's just like the NBA.
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody in the NBA, you have one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, millions of players that played, but not everybody
Speaker 1: can say they want a chip. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: in this business. Million of people played, not everybody brung
Speaker 1: a chip home. So to have a chip in multiple chips,
Speaker 1: that's an accomplishing itself. And then back then, bro, like
Speaker 1: I could say, like you saying, Yo, we was rich rich,
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, nineteen ninety three, a gold record.
Speaker 2: My man had like eight cars at one time.
Speaker 3: Me and Lord Jazz used to laugh at them, like
Speaker 3: what is you doing with all these cars?
Speaker 2: And we still joke about it to this day.
Speaker 3: But I mean, it was just so many different I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, because you have experience.
Speaker 1: And I've seen it in the two thousands and the
Speaker 1: money was still major, but it wasn't what it was
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Like I used to be mad at
Speaker 1: some of my cousins in them looking at drug dealers
Speaker 1: in the two thousands, that'd be like, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: money in eighty eight, and I'm like, cause you was
Speaker 1: outside eighty eight two. Wasn't you why you ain't got no?
Speaker 1: Oh you was in the house. You ain't go outside.
Speaker 1: I get it. So but then everything changed, Like what
Speaker 1: changed for you to make you say, all right? I
Speaker 1: did the music, I did all I've been around the greats,
Speaker 1: I tore the I told the world, had all the cars,
Speaker 1: did whatever. You know what all us rappers do. You
Speaker 1: go to the imagination, we don't have to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Then you say, yo, I'm a run for city council.
Speaker 2: Man, man, so many, so many different things. League.
Speaker 3: It's like in nineteen ninety two in Orlando, Florida, we
Speaker 3: had a motel. We ain't even in hotels yet.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: It's when you go to that motels that outside. That's right,
Speaker 3: we had the room outside. We're on a TUPAC tour.
Speaker 1: Damn legendary.
Speaker 2: No real talk.
Speaker 3: It's real talk. Like we're on a TUPAC tour. Outcast
Speaker 3: is opening up Jah Nay with my man Fan from
Speaker 3: Roden Rascals. They got to hey, mister DJ record, that's
Speaker 3: member that Yeah, Major and Big used to come on
Speaker 3: on with Park sometime on the road. Were on a tour,
Speaker 3: almost getting into something with Pop because we shared a
Speaker 3: Lord shared a van with Pop and Thug Life, so
Speaker 3: most of it was Thug Life and POC and I
Speaker 3: think maybe Lords had about six people with us, like
Speaker 3: sixteen passenger van, and he was just mad because we
Speaker 3: was always late. One of our members was always late.
Speaker 3: You guess it, well, one of our members was always late.
Speaker 3: So I get into it with him because he started
Speaker 3: talking to third person like this my fing tool, you
Speaker 3: know that, and I just felt like he was thisssing
Speaker 3: us and it started to feel embarrassing, you know, the
Speaker 3: thug Life they laughing. So I started talking to third
Speaker 3: person like rappers be acting like they from from Cali
Speaker 3: and they really from Baltimore, you know, like like we're
Speaker 3: getting into it and fourth so right when it really
Speaker 3: gets tense, my other group member gets on the van.
Speaker 2: Fast forward later.
Speaker 3: Pop comes to my room, knocks on my door. He's
Speaker 3: bearing gifts. He got a T shirt under one arm.
Speaker 3: I believe I still got that T shirt too, thug
Speaker 3: wife on it with the bullet on the eye. He
Speaker 3: got a new point in one ear blunting the other
Speaker 3: and he got two forty ounces.
Speaker 2: So he knock on the door.
Speaker 3: And that's when you still have phones and you can
Speaker 3: still smoke in the hotel and get the smoking room,
Speaker 3: smoking room lick and I looked out the curtain. I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's pot so I know that we just went through.
Speaker 3: So I called Lord Jazz, my DJ, and was like, yo,
Speaker 3: pocket in the door.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, he tripping. I'm like, nah, he just
Speaker 2: at the door. I'm just letting you know what. I'm
Speaker 2: about to let him in. If something happened, you already
Speaker 2: know what's happening.
Speaker 3: I let him in. I open the door. He just
Speaker 3: looked at me and he like, you ain't gonna let
Speaker 3: me in. I just I still don't say nothing. I
Speaker 3: just move out the way let him in. It's two
Speaker 3: beds in the room. He sitting on one, I sit
Speaker 3: on one. He crack open the forty hand me, hand
Speaker 3: it to me, crack open his forty sip it he takes.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he took the blunt the or
Speaker 3: the cigarette out, but he lit. Probably was the blunt.
Speaker 3: He said he lit the blunt and he looks at
Speaker 3: me and he's like, you know you was wrong, right,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I felt like I was wrong,
Speaker 3: but because it's his tool. But I wasn't wrong for
Speaker 3: taking up for myself. That's right, you know what, I
Speaker 3: hold it down like, I couldn't let you just diss
Speaker 3: our crew. But bro we twenty twenty one. He goes
Speaker 3: into I ain't never heard of twenty year old to
Speaker 3: this day talk the way that he was talking. And
Speaker 3: he was talking about positivity. He was talking about how
Speaker 3: we shouldn't move from the cities we're from if we
Speaker 3: grew from the soil. From there, he started talking about
Speaker 3: how we gotta turn millions of rappers into millions of
Speaker 3: rapper listen to records, listen to the people who listen
Speaker 3: to rap records into millions of voters. He started talking about.
Speaker 3: And then he said, we got to become legislators. I'm like, legislators, man,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Like, man, I'm a rapper she talking about.
Speaker 3: He was like, nah, but if we don't make the vote,
Speaker 3: if we don't make the laws, then the laws will
Speaker 3: be made for us.
Speaker 2: I'm just listening to him.
Speaker 3: He's like, we gotta start nonprofits and create youth programs
Speaker 3: that bridge the gap between our youth and our seniors.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Yo, this guy's twenty years old. It's
Speaker 1: what ninety what two?
Speaker 2: Oh it don't Lando, Florida.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm like, all right, Man, I feel
Speaker 3: like I did everything he asked me in that hotel. Man,
Speaker 3: I created a nonprofit organization called two eleven Community Impact.
Speaker 2: I did everything Man.
Speaker 3: I ran for office, but he wasn't the only one.
Speaker 3: I had a mentor about the name of my hot
Speaker 3: feast for Reed, who was our manager of Lords and
Speaker 3: the Underground. We had just came off of doing MTV.
Speaker 3: You know how MTV should throw all of those big concerts.
Speaker 3: I was feeling myself again this I was feeling myself
Speaker 3: a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Asshole moment.
Speaker 3: I got a couple of asshold since then, Washington, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I got a couple of asshole moments.
Speaker 2: I'm just keeping this.
Speaker 3: But so, I come off of MTV and usually I've
Speaker 3: been wearing nork on my hats.
Speaker 1: And clothes for years.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And this time I had
Speaker 2: on had T shirt nor everything, and he my man
Speaker 2: just looked at me. He's like, oh, you norked.
Speaker 1: Out to day.
Speaker 2: Huh. So I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I got defensive, but I was like yeah, like and
Speaker 3: what like yeah, And he was like, what's the last
Speaker 3: thing you did for Newark?
Speaker 2: And I was like, I got defensive.
Speaker 1: I was like, what you mean.
Speaker 3: I just performed in front of millions of people on MTV.
Speaker 3: I represented for my city. He was like, I'm not
Speaker 3: talking about marketing and promotion. What was the last thing
Speaker 3: you did for your city?
Speaker 2: And he stumped me.
Speaker 1: I was like wow.
Speaker 3: And I promised that day that that would be the
Speaker 3: last day that anybody would ever be able to ask
Speaker 3: me what I did for my city.
Speaker 2: And I can't answer it, do you know?
Speaker 3: And then I started taking my hip hop money and
Speaker 3: started my nonprofit like POxy, and I started investing into
Speaker 3: Team Pregnancy and you know, just things that was affecting
Speaker 3: our youth, going into.
Speaker 2: Schools, doing talks and all of that.
Speaker 3: And then the people later years later, said, yo, we
Speaker 3: want you to be our voice.
Speaker 1: Damn you know that's dope, man.
Speaker 3: And then I wind up in twenty twenty two, I
Speaker 3: wound up becoming the first platinum selling hip hop artists
Speaker 3: to ever win an elected official see in the United
Speaker 3: States of America.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on too.
Speaker 2: Because he got the world title for women believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Sean definitely came home on his Obama movie. Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1: I respect it too, man, he out there really making
Speaker 1: the change and doing I respect all because these are
Speaker 1: things we dreamed about, that we we we wished we
Speaker 1: could do, and y'all really doing it. So like that
Speaker 1: makes the difference that's needed because other young black men,
Speaker 1: older men might see you like they don't even know.
Speaker 1: I didn't have no clue that Pop put some of
Speaker 1: that inspirations. Definitely, and I never met Pop. I never
Speaker 1: saw him personally ever, Like I only know his message,
Speaker 1: no his story, and know what every other fan knew,
Speaker 1: But I never met him to know that he was
Speaker 1: out there inspiring movements like that.
Speaker 3: Man, if not the governor, at minimum, he would have
Speaker 3: been the mayor of Baltimore or Oakland.
Speaker 1: That's crazy to think about that. So where do you
Speaker 1: place lords of the underground in the golden era conversation?
Speaker 3: Man, that's a great question too, man, I mean you're
Speaker 3: asking one of the lords, So I'm gonna put myself
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 2: We usually talk about.
Speaker 1: Groups, right, said yeah, amongst the group conversation man.
Speaker 2: Top ten fact top ten.
Speaker 1: And the reason.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can ask Kanye too, like, yeah, shout
Speaker 3: out to yay Man. Yeah, yeah, shut out to yay Man.
Speaker 3: I remember him saying that that Lords of the Underground
Speaker 3: was either six or seven on his top ten lists. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I believe it to be so because when he
Speaker 3: did was the Pablo album.
Speaker 1: I believe it was. He got a Pablo album.
Speaker 3: Man, he gave us eight thousand dollars apiece. Like, I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that's a whole bunch of money, but just
Speaker 3: for saying he was the Lord Chief Rocket number one.
Speaker 1: He didn't sample it, he didn't here.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a couple bands each one of
Speaker 3: you because I'm saying something that I respected, that I
Speaker 3: love and it comes from y'all. I'm like, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, shout out to yay Man, because
Speaker 3: he didn't have to do that.
Speaker 2: He didn't have to even clear nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the most genuine, generous and genuine
Speaker 1: guys in the music industry that I met. And I
Speaker 1: just like, you know, a lot of people try to
Speaker 1: fault people for their passion. His passion is just high, bro.
Speaker 1: And when you love what you love and believe what
Speaker 1: you believe, You're gonna fight for it. You can't knock
Speaker 1: a person for the fight just just to say I'm
Speaker 1: not getting in the fight with you or I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna help you fight. Don't knock him for the fight.
Speaker 1: He's fighting, you know what I'm saying. And that's what
Speaker 1: I don't like. Don't knock the man for the one
Speaker 1: because he's out here fighting.
Speaker 2: He definitely is.
Speaker 1: It's a war. We all out of war within myself,
Speaker 1: whether we presented or not, but we out here fighting
Speaker 1: to be better men than we were yesterday.
Speaker 3: And when he came, when he came in search of
Speaker 3: his deal man, he came to New Jersey.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Another one went to Newark to get
Speaker 1: that root had you even see on his documentary he
Speaker 1: locked in the crib and locked in the You know,
Speaker 1: I came to Newark too. I did my last album
Speaker 1: five three four. I recorded it in guru crib. I
Speaker 1: recorded it two one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I recorded it Guru man.
Speaker 1: Niggas don't know he the ya he the Yoda of
Speaker 1: rockaf Man Man, shout.
Speaker 3: Out the Guru man yo, and I'm gonna keep I'm
Speaker 3: gonna keep our thing with us, Guru, because I know
Speaker 3: you're not camera. Yes, but he asked me never to
Speaker 3: say it on camera, so I respect that. But I
Speaker 3: respect you one thousand a million percent.
Speaker 1: No, Gurlu, that's my guy, man and I Jay gave
Speaker 1: lots my brother. I love him to death. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be here without him.
Speaker 2: No doubt.
Speaker 1: But oh he stole goo from me. My dog. Pay up, Jack,
Speaker 1: that's my dog, pay up, that's yo dog. Worry highway
Speaker 1: robbery for Google. Google you with me now, bro, ain't
Speaker 1: saying no to that. No, I'm in l A right now, blink.
Speaker 1: I call you back many.
Speaker 2: Times I've called Google too, Yo.
Speaker 1: Where you at goo? Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm in the south of France with the homie.
Speaker 2: Ye all right, cool?
Speaker 1: Hit you back Google in La with the homie Yo.
Speaker 1: So from Platinum Records, Toys Gold Albums, being the first
Speaker 1: platinum selling artists to win the Councilman seat like you said,
Speaker 1: man to now you have a children's book. Man, you
Speaker 1: can do it.
Speaker 2: All, bro Yo. With that being said, I want to
Speaker 2: take this time, man. I want to give you a gift.
Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Look man, so.
Speaker 3: Here you go, man, I know pay pay the boss of.
Speaker 1: The boss I ain't even open.
Speaker 2: You can crack it open. You crack it open.
Speaker 3: But but I just because it's something in there for
Speaker 3: you as well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We got we got the color book.
Speaker 1: We got that book.
Speaker 2: That's the book, the children's book.
Speaker 1: That remember, even your adults need to know you can
Speaker 1: still do it all. That's right and that's it. That's
Speaker 1: just it.
Speaker 2: The adults reading it to their children as a reminder.
Speaker 3: I want to shout out my co author man Kyrie Williams,
Speaker 3: who wrote it with us.
Speaker 2: So yeah, crack this open.
Speaker 1: Man, You package is amazing, Bro. I love the presentation.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure you deserve it. Though I
Speaker 3: know you smoked cigars. You might put other things.
Speaker 1: In the No, no, I do it the real way too, okay,
Speaker 1: but we got the nice look at caste for you
Speaker 1: and playing a realm. This is this is real real dip.
Speaker 2: But the cigar in it. I want you to understand
Speaker 2: that this is are in it right.
Speaker 3: This is this right here is a Rocky Patel right
Speaker 3: and cigar smokers know as a Rocky it's a disciple.
Speaker 2: You wanted the Rocks disciples.
Speaker 3: Bro, So I wanted to make sure that I was
Speaker 3: intentional about get you Rocky Patel.
Speaker 1: Rocky Patel, This might be my new favorite cigar now word,
Speaker 1: because all I know iskohebas.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the that's the that's the old throwback cooheba,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And we got you the mom yes, the t I
Speaker 1: was about to pull that out next. Yeah, some courage,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. The tea. You know, little green tea
Speaker 1: in the morning, don't hurt nobody.
Speaker 2: Why not green tea?
Speaker 1: Keep you mind your business too, Help you mind your business.
Speaker 2: Y'll help you mind your business. I'm telling you. So
Speaker 2: we got you the mug.
Speaker 3: Got courage on there, because man, to keep on going
Speaker 3: to do it after we're not doing records, Man.
Speaker 2: It takes courage.
Speaker 1: Got the puzzle this bro getting.
Speaker 2: For pay pay man. We got the cape in there
Speaker 2: for her? Oh man, because I hear she's a super girl.
Speaker 1: That's right. She does it all, bro, that's right, so
Speaker 1: we got to do it all. I love this man.
Speaker 1: This is amazing, bro, Like, this is amazing man. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on this man. The kids believe we need all the
Speaker 1: inspiration for the new youth.
Speaker 3: And the last thing, man, we want to make sure
Speaker 3: that she gets a coloring book too.
Speaker 1: Oh, man, appreciate it. Bro. I'm coloring too because I
Speaker 1: got a teacher. Don't go outside the line.
Speaker 2: Outside.
Speaker 1: There can't be my kid coloring outside the line.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: This is amazing, bro, Thank you so much. My brother,
Speaker 1: Kyrie irvings Man holding it down kids book. You just
Speaker 1: said to me you want to do some kiddy stuff
Speaker 1: to promote and inspire. I got the right crew for
Speaker 1: you to link with. We got it, enjoy man. Thank
Speaker 1: you man. So like I said, how did this even
Speaker 1: come about? What made you want to get into the
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna do the kid's book and give
Speaker 1: the kids some hope. I love it, man, We need
Speaker 1: it man.
Speaker 2: Like I can't front man. Kyrie, Kyrie Williams is the
Speaker 2: one who he was.
Speaker 3: He was pressuring me to I don't know pressure in
Speaker 3: the right world, but you know he was on me
Speaker 3: to make my memoirs because because you know, I don't
Speaker 3: know who that is in your life that that you
Speaker 3: just kind of throw things off and you talk to
Speaker 3: and even if you just just screaming that and he's
Speaker 3: just listening, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like we all need that sometime.
Speaker 3: And Kyrie was one of mine, you know, like I
Speaker 3: could just say whatever, and then at times he'd be like, yo,
Speaker 3: remember when you said such a I don't even remember.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, yo, you said such and such that
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 3: Jewel, Like yo, And he reminds me to live by
Speaker 3: my own words.
Speaker 2: That's right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Definitely need those friends to remind.
Speaker 2: The elbow in your you know.
Speaker 3: And he was the one that he said, Yo, I
Speaker 3: want you to you should write your memoirs because your
Speaker 3: stories is crazy and people don't know that's a fact.
Speaker 1: Just a couple of things you said sitting in here.
Speaker 1: I don't want to like yo, but bro, you got
Speaker 1: some stories, you got some history for real man.
Speaker 3: And I just said, you know what, man, I'm going
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to it. I'm gonna get to it,
Speaker 3: you know, being busy, we always I'm gonna get to it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to it, but tomorrow might not come right.
Speaker 3: So he said, you know what, do you mind if I.
Speaker 2: Push the book along. I'm gonna call you and.
Speaker 3: Whatever I need from you, can you give it to me.
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, he said, all right, So we're gonna
Speaker 3: start with a children's book. I'm gonna start with stories,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna make it palatable for young people. So
Speaker 3: talk about your failures as a child.
Speaker 2: In that book.
Speaker 3: It talks about me running for school counsel and not
Speaker 3: winning the first year. It talks about me going out
Speaker 3: for the baseball team and not making it the first year.
Speaker 3: It talks about falling and getting up and brushing yourself off.
Speaker 3: And he pushed me to do that, man, And I'm
Speaker 3: forever great, you know, grateful to him for that, because
Speaker 3: this book is doing amazing and it's not something that
Speaker 3: we looked to happen.
Speaker 1: That's the ones that work. Man. It's so crazy. It's
Speaker 1: like that in music, bro, think about it. How many
Speaker 1: times you recorded a song and in your mind you like,
Speaker 1: this's the one, and then they driving me back walk
Speaker 1: and then the record You'll be like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's cool and people be like that's my joy. You'd
Speaker 1: be like what.
Speaker 3: And that's happened with Funky Child chief rocker Away K Deaf,
Speaker 3: who produced those records, who's from Jersey as well. He
Speaker 3: tried to fast forward past those and and myself was like, yo,
Speaker 3: well go back to those.
Speaker 2: It's like, y'a don't want those, Yo, they became too big.
Speaker 1: No way that I got a record like that round here.
Speaker 1: Just walked in the studio just like, what the hell
Speaker 1: is that? He's like, man, it's none, that's something I'm
Speaker 1: just playing with. You don't want that, And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: put that beat on right, and it became around here,
Speaker 1: so I know exactly. For some producers will be like
Speaker 1: they be like us artists not ain't and I don't know,
Speaker 1: and then we hear and be like, no, that's the
Speaker 1: one right then the one they like, Yo, this is
Speaker 1: the one I made for you. You like, I don't
Speaker 1: like that one. Yeah, I made this, Yeah, that one like,
Speaker 1: I don't really like the one you made for me.
Speaker 1: So when mainstream visibility slowed up after the early nineties,
Speaker 1: what kept the Lord's active touring internationally? Like all that stuff?
Speaker 1: Besides music like af did y'all stay inspired to even
Speaker 1: even keep going?
Speaker 2: Lord jazz is the glue between Lords and the underground.
Speaker 1: I DJ I gotta pull up on you in Miami.
Speaker 1: Get some of the alumas. He got almas, he don't
Speaker 1: got crazy. He got that almos. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: we used to play with peeling off your facts that's
Speaker 1: fact he got the real glue.
Speaker 3: Gazz is the centerpiece of our group because when me
Speaker 3: and Funk as MC started to grow as men and
Speaker 3: have different ideologies.
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, and ideas, Lord.
Speaker 3: Jazz was like, oh, this is a covenant, you know,
Speaker 3: this is blood brothers. Like these two are my brothers.
Speaker 3: I don't care if I don't like them. Sometimes we
Speaker 3: vow to each other that we would never break up.
Speaker 3: You know that Laws of the Underground as a group
Speaker 3: is bigger than anything that we ever did.
Speaker 2: Separately and outside of each other.
Speaker 3: So collectively we have things that we've done with each
Speaker 3: other that we have done with no other person in
Speaker 3: the world. Like Lord Jazz has been around us more
Speaker 3: than he's been around his real brothers.
Speaker 2: I've been around.
Speaker 3: Lord Jazz and Funky Man more than I've been around
Speaker 3: my sister and my brother, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So they are my family, and I think that that's
Speaker 3: what kept Laws of the Underground together is realizing that
Speaker 3: we are more than just two MC's and the DJ family.
Speaker 1: That's dope, man, And I gotta definitely now gotta put
Speaker 1: y'all on the list because I never thought about that
Speaker 1: when I think about rap groups, groups break up. It's
Speaker 1: only I only had two groups that never broke up,
Speaker 1: but now it's three.
Speaker 2: We never broke.
Speaker 1: Lords of the Underground now the Locks, Smith and Western.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Smith and Western too.
Speaker 1: All the other groups, even run DMC, broke.
Speaker 2: Up and we modeled ourselves.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, all groups, even the Vengers broke up. Ye,
Speaker 1: all groups. So like when you trans transition, like pivot
Speaker 1: into running the campaign and running for counselmen, Like, did
Speaker 1: you face any skepticism from any voters or anything like
Speaker 1: that from the yo, he's a rapper, he can't do this.
Speaker 3: Most definitely, Like, yeah, people did not believe. I don't
Speaker 3: even think and this is not a dis to Mace, right,
Speaker 3: but I think that when Mace became a reverend, a
Speaker 3: lot of people even he just trying to get some money.
Speaker 3: He ain't making records no more. I think people felt
Speaker 3: like that about me.
Speaker 2: Like, ah, he ain't doing it no more. So he
Speaker 2: trying to get some.
Speaker 3: A job, you know, And that's just not the case.
Speaker 3: I thought, because I was popular in my city, that
Speaker 3: I was still popular with the youth at the time,
Speaker 3: that this would be a no brain up. And when
Speaker 3: I first ran eight years ago, I lost, you know,
Speaker 3: I lost, you know, and the.
Speaker 2: Seniors like, he just, what's that rapper boy that's running?
Speaker 2: What's that rapper boy that was running from South Longe
Speaker 2: Avenue in nineteenth Street? They got that rapper boy running?
Speaker 3: And I had to prove to them that I wasn't
Speaker 3: just a rapper boy.
Speaker 2: I told him, like, man, I am what you guys
Speaker 2: prayed for in the neighborhood. Y'all pray for our young
Speaker 2: people to make it out. I am that prayer answer.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So how you in front of me? And this is
Speaker 2: how I used to talk to them.
Speaker 1: How you in front of me?
Speaker 2: Elder?
Speaker 1: That's right?
Speaker 2: Like I am what it looks like, a hip hop
Speaker 2: grown up that made it survived, And now I'm asking
Speaker 2: to govern where I grew up at, Like, how.
Speaker 1: Can you front on that? There's a lot of these
Speaker 1: old people stuck in their ways? And then I get it.
Speaker 2: I definitely get it.
Speaker 3: And you know, I really had a tough time, but
Speaker 3: me just showing them just being consistent and having a
Speaker 3: track record. Just like you said you didn't know a
Speaker 3: lot of things. There are a lot of people who
Speaker 3: didn't know a lot of things that that was because
Speaker 3: of me in.
Speaker 1: This city community.
Speaker 3: And then when they started to realize, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: he did that. Oh he did that because I wasn't
Speaker 3: asking for the fame. I had rap to make me famous,
Speaker 3: that's right. I wasn't looking for the community to make
Speaker 3: me famous.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, we've been famous in the community
Speaker 1: since she was a jit. Right, that's not nothing new.
Speaker 1: That's when we first get famed. That's what it does.
Speaker 1: Walk world, Why fans, it's the neighborhood thing. You're like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I did this something live over here?
Speaker 1: What if I go over there?
Speaker 2: Right? If I go over here, yeah, zoo that shine.
Speaker 1: That's amazing man Like, But what was the toughest adjustment?
Speaker 1: You were saying moving from stage to the city councils.
Speaker 2: The toughest adjustment.
Speaker 3: And I think I kind of got it down, but
Speaker 3: it's still hard sometimes.
Speaker 2: Is I had to build my patience, you know, I
Speaker 2: get people come to the council meetings like that's do nothing.
Speaker 3: He ain't do nothing, he nothing, he ain't doing all
Speaker 3: he yo, no way, I mean I'm being a buck
Speaker 3: with you like yo, you know, And that's why. But
Speaker 3: one of my mentors said, keep the receipts of all
Speaker 3: the work you do, so they can say all of that.
Speaker 1: But we got receipts, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I think it's the patience, you know, the name
Speaker 3: calling nothing, because you wouldn't say none of that to
Speaker 3: me if I was and.
Speaker 2: Councilmen in the streets.
Speaker 1: That's right, you would not know.
Speaker 3: I know you wouldn't you man?
Speaker 2: And you know so.
Speaker 3: The being patient, with the name calling, the disrespect, the
Speaker 3: talking about your family, the all of that type of stuff.
Speaker 3: I had to get used to that, and it's it's
Speaker 3: very hard to get used to.
Speaker 1: Still.
Speaker 3: I learned how to endure, but it's still hard to
Speaker 3: get used to now.
Speaker 2: That it's just a boxer can't complain about being a boxer.
Speaker 3: Right when he and a ring at me, he's hitting me.
Speaker 2: You know he's a boxer.
Speaker 1: You chose this, and I believe, like just hearing you
Speaker 1: say it, I think my belief would be I think
Speaker 1: they put that there to test us because we are
Speaker 1: the minorities. That's the aggressor, they say, so if we're
Speaker 1: gonna think, you know what, they remember being a kid,
Speaker 1: you always get physical, you always want to get violent.
Speaker 1: What about using your words? How you let words hurt you?
Speaker 1: He didn't touch you, So that's what that sounds like.
Speaker 1: They want to push them buttons to see how far
Speaker 1: or how patient you really have. And me, I had
Speaker 1: this conversation with one of my homies from the hood
Speaker 1: about kids that grow up with fathers and kids that
Speaker 1: don't like I know me looking at how I raised
Speaker 1: my children, that that's something that I missed out on.
Speaker 1: Not have your father president too. And I look at
Speaker 1: all my friends that grew up with their father They
Speaker 1: all have patience and I don't because I was raised
Speaker 1: by a woman. What a woman gonna do everything is fuck?
Speaker 1: What the fuck you playing with? What's you saying I'm
Speaker 1: gonna slap that bad? So you're getting that Mom's coming
Speaker 1: to crist They think I'm playing with this. I'm not
Speaker 1: sending them no more. So your attitude grows off that.
Speaker 1: And I feel like my friends who grew up with fathers,
Speaker 1: like even my son, I taught him something I didn't have.
Speaker 1: I didn't have patience, but I made sure he will
Speaker 1: that you not gonna overreact and jump off the ledge
Speaker 1: for things that you could just sit there and be
Speaker 1: like man, ain't that serious.
Speaker 3: That's facts, man, I believe that. You know, Raising my
Speaker 3: children with their mom is totally different because I didn't
Speaker 3: have that. I think my mom is one of the
Speaker 3: strongest people in the world.
Speaker 1: Fact, but she couldn't.
Speaker 2: She couldn't show me how to.
Speaker 1: Be a man. No one woman. We can't show a
Speaker 1: woman how to be a woman, exactly. Man, that's a fact.
Speaker 3: And that's why I always looked for mentor the things
Speaker 3: that I wanted to become in life. I looked for
Speaker 3: those mentors, and now I wind up becoming that person
Speaker 3: that I used to look for, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's dope, man.
Speaker 2: And I try to give that to my I give it.
Speaker 2: I don't try.
Speaker 3: I give that to my my children. Whether they accept
Speaker 3: it or not is another thing they do. They do
Speaker 3: trust me.
Speaker 1: I always tell my wife, I say, Yo, we don't
Speaker 1: know our kid when they leave our presence, we don't
Speaker 1: know them. All we could do is hope they took
Speaker 1: all the jewels and process them and interpreting them into
Speaker 1: their life. But when to they leave that house. I
Speaker 1: don't know what your kid out there doing talking lot.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing a TikTok of my son and he
Speaker 1: out there like yo, bring the right, bring the what.
Speaker 1: When you started talking like that, he didn't even let
Speaker 1: me follow him on TikTok because he didn't want me to.
Speaker 2: See who he really was, right right, right, really was.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: All we can do, man is give them, give them
Speaker 3: the ingredients, give them the tools, and hope they mow
Speaker 3: themselves and become that dish that the world appreciates you.
Speaker 1: That's the fact, man, I'm so appreciative that everything you've done,
Speaker 1: everything you're doing, man, you keeping it going and you're
Speaker 1: giving guys like me hope that you know, it's still
Speaker 1: other chapters that you can still do to give back
Speaker 1: because like you say, even with Freeway, I love what
Speaker 1: Freeway doing out there with the kids, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He do the schools, he go talk to
Speaker 1: the community. He got the thing now where he doing.
Speaker 1: If you lost someone and need to fit and get
Speaker 1: that off your chance, he got the prayer channel with
Speaker 1: you could come and kick away and talk about ups
Speaker 1: and downs. You know, I just and I tell them
Speaker 1: I love that that you're doing it, man, because to
Speaker 1: turn your pain into passion is the beauty of life
Speaker 1: to me. Man, to take something that was supposed to
Speaker 1: destroy you and be triumphanus.
Speaker 2: I think too, Bligua. It's like, what's really the end? All?
Speaker 1: Be?
Speaker 2: All right? What I mean by that is like we
Speaker 2: have this destination that we seeking right, all of us.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to make it out the hood.
Speaker 2: And the time I go to schools, how many of
Speaker 2: y'all want to make it out the hood?
Speaker 3: Everybody raise their head, right, we want to make it
Speaker 3: to this destination, you know, like the highway of life
Speaker 3: to me is like you know, your eyes are like
Speaker 3: the headlights. We see it two hundred feet in front
Speaker 3: of us.
Speaker 2: That's when we're not moving.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: When you move and.
Speaker 3: You see another two hundred feet, you move a little more,
Speaker 3: you see another. You start seeing on ramps and off
Speaker 3: ramps that you couldn't notice off in the right right,
Speaker 3: and you start to if you get off of some
Speaker 3: of those on ramps and all frames, you start to
Speaker 3: be interested in things that you didn't even know that
Speaker 3: you would be interested in that even.
Speaker 1: While you headed towards your destination, you figure out I
Speaker 1: like that, I like this. I would have never told
Speaker 1: you I like.
Speaker 2: Right right, And then when you let's say fast forward.
Speaker 3: You make it to your destination and you get there
Speaker 3: and you realize.
Speaker 2: Damn, this ain't even I want to be. But it's
Speaker 2: more about the journey.
Speaker 3: Because the journey that made you and allowed you to
Speaker 3: get it to your destination, we don't even really want
Speaker 3: to be that when we get we want to be
Speaker 3: everything that it made us to get there.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Like to me, I don't think I
Speaker 1: have an end destination.
Speaker 2: That's smart, And I wouldn't have said that that smart
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 1: That is very don't. I just want to keep going
Speaker 1: till I can't go no more. I want to inspire
Speaker 1: till I can inspire no more. And and and that's
Speaker 1: it because the end I feel like is the end,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, so I don't want
Speaker 1: the end go Hell no, I'm.
Speaker 3: Glad you said that too, though, Like that you said
Speaker 3: you want to keep inspiring and you can't inspire no
Speaker 3: more because I think we're in an influenced stage, right.
Speaker 1: Everybody, everybody, and they not influencing nothing, Sandwich. I don't
Speaker 1: want to influenced me how to change my life.
Speaker 3: Influence is powerful, but it ain't. It ain't really that thing.
Speaker 3: What you said is that thing inspiration, because when you
Speaker 3: inspired by somebody, you inspirit with it.
Speaker 1: That's right, you know what I'm saying. Believe you know
Speaker 1: you can, man, That's what. That's what made me gravitate
Speaker 1: to Jazz, Zoe and Jay because they from my neighborhood
Speaker 1: and I see them with the things that I dream
Speaker 1: about and it's like, if they can do it, I
Speaker 1: can do it too. And that inspiration has been what
Speaker 1: drove me my whole life. Is like to watch your
Speaker 1: friends accomplished and it's like, man, you did it, I
Speaker 1: could do it too. What world? What steps you took?
Speaker 1: Then you could share tips, knowledge and game and help
Speaker 1: each other climb instead of that's how you get out
Speaker 1: the batton, instead of pushing your homie back in the battery.
Speaker 1: So that's my thing, and I hope I exude that
Speaker 1: to the people when they see me, speak to me,
Speaker 1: meet me, listen to me, like, I hope they get
Speaker 1: some type of inspiration to know, yo, I can do
Speaker 1: that too, man, Like you know, that's what made me
Speaker 1: do this because everybody was kicking the homie down or
Speaker 1: talking about the chicks or the crimes they come in
Speaker 1: and it's like, yo, famly all of us have more
Speaker 1: to us than just negativity. I have way more positive
Speaker 1: things in my life than negative things. And I don't
Speaker 1: think the people want to heal a negative. You could
Speaker 1: turn on the news and watch negativity all day. All
Speaker 1: you gotta do is watch the news you want to
Speaker 1: hear some negative.
Speaker 3: So Moman is a movement, not a movement unless it's
Speaker 3: moving forward, man, not moving back with that.
Speaker 1: That's a fact, man. So like with this being said, right,
Speaker 1: hip hop began as an anti establishment. How did you
Speaker 1: or how do you navigate being inside the government while
Speaker 1: staying rooted as a coach?
Speaker 3: You know, I used to hate politicians like all hip hop,
Speaker 3: even when I first got in my term. Shout out
Speaker 3: to Mayor Baraka.
Speaker 1: Man, that's right, they're holding it down.
Speaker 2: He's an artist who believes right.
Speaker 3: But I used to say to him and my team,
Speaker 3: I ain't no politician, man, I'm just a dude that
Speaker 3: got elected. I'm right, And the man was like, you
Speaker 3: gotta stop saying you you're not a politician.
Speaker 1: You in it.
Speaker 3: Everything around us is politics, right, you know, it's just
Speaker 3: how you navigated. And he created a team of people
Speaker 3: who fought for the people.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So I believe that who you are is what he
Speaker 3: was talking about, is the same thing Pac was talking about.
Speaker 2: We need to see at the table.
Speaker 3: And if we don't get to see at the table,
Speaker 3: we got enough tools to build one.
Speaker 2: Right, So when we get at the table, now do
Speaker 2: the things that you said you would do when you
Speaker 2: weren't at that table.
Speaker 1: Yes. Right.
Speaker 3: And one of the things that I notice is that
Speaker 3: people don't. They talk, but they.
Speaker 2: Don't understand until they get behind this table. Man, until
Speaker 2: they get into any job that they say.
Speaker 3: That, oh I'll do this, I'll do that. It look easy,
Speaker 3: but it's not. Then I'll tell you this politics stuff
Speaker 3: is not easy.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: But why do I keep doing it? I keep doing
Speaker 2: it for the people.
Speaker 1: That's right, And I don't like the people that be
Speaker 1: Like if it was me or if I get there,
Speaker 1: I could do this. If you wouldn't do nothing, you
Speaker 1: would do the same thing you're doing right now, just
Speaker 1: talking because if you really was about it, you would
Speaker 1: be doing it. So do it. That's right. Ain't no.
Speaker 1: If like my mom said, if it was a fifth
Speaker 1: we all be drunk. And now I'm sobered in the job.
Speaker 1: So what we're doing, what it's.
Speaker 2: Straight and easy to get elected.
Speaker 3: Man, There's so many different processes, there's so many real
Speaker 3: things that you gotta deal with.
Speaker 2: I'm dressing a soup right now.
Speaker 3: I told I told Kyrie, who came with me today,
Speaker 3: I was like, I probably won the award suit today.
Speaker 3: But I'm literally coming out of a council meeting, a
Speaker 3: council meeting where we're talking about eighty million dollars and
Speaker 3: eight million dollars on this.
Speaker 2: Project and buying your new garbage trucks because.
Speaker 1: Of twenty of them broke down.
Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, just dealing with the
Speaker 3: business of the city and shout out to my council
Speaker 3: colleagues who always there for me to help me walk
Speaker 3: that that walk.
Speaker 2: But it's not an.
Speaker 1: Easy thing, no man.
Speaker 3: And I know you've been in meetings or been around
Speaker 3: meetings where they talking about real money.
Speaker 2: You know that they're no playing around, no play can't
Speaker 2: man's lives and I got city lives, ain't no playing around.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not the I'm not the politician because I'm
Speaker 3: hip hop and I got elected and now I'm playing.
Speaker 1: I gotta get the work I gotta right. I really
Speaker 1: want to make change, man, that's dope. So, like, I
Speaker 1: know you're running for re election.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, re election too. I'm twenty six man.
Speaker 3: May twelfth is the re election man and the whole
Speaker 3: Team Baraka.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Team Baraka.
Speaker 3: We're rocking with the mayor, Mayor Raj Baraka again man
Speaker 3: and team Baraka. You know, uh that is myself, Councilman Duprey,
Speaker 3: Kelly do it all as some of y'all, Councilwoman, the
Speaker 3: Fragrance of the Council, Louis Scott, Rowntree, the President of
Speaker 3: the council, c Lawrence Crump, south Ford Councilman Patrick Council.
Speaker 3: You got our North Fork Councilman, Abel Rainbows.
Speaker 2: You got who else we got? We got Mike Silva
Speaker 2: down in the east Ward.
Speaker 3: We got Quintana running for at large and that's our
Speaker 3: team Brocca.
Speaker 2: Man, oh excuse me.
Speaker 3: And then we got our Muslim, our Muslima's sister, you know,
Speaker 3: miss Bay, Councilwoman Bay Amina Bay. So that's our team man,
Speaker 3: that's what we're rocking with in Newark.
Speaker 1: That's right, man. Make sure y'all get out there and
Speaker 1: vote what you said May twelfth, Every vote count, man,
Speaker 1: And if you want to change your community, you got
Speaker 1: to go out there and be the voice of the community.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's a fact, man. I vote matter. Don't
Speaker 1: let them tell you that. Don't tell them again. Bleave matter.
Speaker 1: Even if they want you to show y'all, d show
Speaker 1: it because it matters. It matters now if you win
Speaker 1: the reelection? Right when when when Blae, when when you
Speaker 1: were not? Like I said, when when when? See to
Speaker 1: give me tongue to when you win the reelection? What
Speaker 1: impact do you want to be measured by? Ten years
Speaker 1: from now?
Speaker 3: Father, ten years from now, I want to I want
Speaker 3: them to say, this is a young man who grew
Speaker 3: up in his city, went on to have a success
Speaker 3: in entertainment, came back to his city, the same soiler
Speaker 3: that birthed him, and we planted in the saw you
Speaker 3: and did things to make it better than when he
Speaker 3: left it.
Speaker 1: That's dope, man. What's next for you? Coming up next?
Speaker 1: So you want the people to know besides me? May twelfth,
Speaker 1: get out there, vote, get your butt, your ass, and
Speaker 1: behind your feet your mouth. I don't care whatever. Vote
Speaker 1: what's next? For money?
Speaker 3: Before I say what's next, I want to thank everybody
Speaker 3: who goes out there and campaigns with the people that
Speaker 3: you don't see.
Speaker 1: I see them because I ride through the council places
Speaker 1: and all that. I'm more paid attention to it when
Speaker 1: I moved to Florida because it's a red steak. So
Speaker 1: you know, I started paying attention to things that I
Speaker 1: took for granted being in New Yorker, in the blue state.
Speaker 1: My whole life got you that you things you you
Speaker 1: can do that they like, oh you can't do that here,
Speaker 1: You're like since win since he said that? Like, So
Speaker 1: I pay attention to the they be out there.
Speaker 2: Were ironic we in that building word up right, that's.
Speaker 1: Dope man, that's fire man. So what's next for the
Speaker 1: people to expect from my guys the movement?
Speaker 2: Can we what's next for me? I just did a deal.
Speaker 2: Sometime I don't like saying it until it's done. But
Speaker 2: the deal is done.
Speaker 3: But what's next is you know, vertical movies are the
Speaker 3: next thing. They're worth eight point eight billion dollars. I
Speaker 3: just did a deal me my man, Jimbo Alexander, Jim Alexander.
Speaker 3: We go into pre production for a vertical movie that
Speaker 3: we got called The Shaker Unit that is coming up.
Speaker 1: We probably go.
Speaker 3: Into production, probably in April, pre production in April, then
Speaker 3: probably after the election, we go into principal photography, micro movies,
Speaker 3: vertical movies.
Speaker 2: It's the big thing.
Speaker 1: With that being said, do a vertical micro cube, shake
Speaker 1: rectang right movie of your life, bro, Because to come
Speaker 1: from what you did accomplishments the motivation from some of
Speaker 1: these guys like come on the story about two past,
Speaker 1: his music is inspirational for you to sit there and
Speaker 1: say he gave you inspiration, Like then Molly Marl looks
Speaker 1: all for nest Or, Bro. Your story, that's box office man.
Speaker 1: Then they'll be changing your neighborhood, your roots. That's box
Speaker 1: office bro.
Speaker 3: If you look at TikTok video, if you go back
Speaker 3: to a laws, that underground video called TikTok see we
Speaker 3: had tiktokk world. If you see me jumping the gate
Speaker 3: running from the police, that's me depicting me running from
Speaker 3: a council person in my neighborhood who became one of
Speaker 3: my mentors, Ron Rice, Me depicting running from him. And
Speaker 3: now I am the councilman in that neighborhood. That's crazy
Speaker 3: life for man.
Speaker 1: Life repeats itself and I always say that. Man, that's
Speaker 1: the one thing about living it. We love it and
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man, I thank you for coming following
Speaker 1: my brother. You much love that everything. Like I said,
Speaker 1: get out there and vote May twelfth, we're gonna re
Speaker 1: elect my god. Do it all for city councilmen. And
Speaker 1: when you got time with your kids, make sure you
Speaker 1: download that book you can do it all. We go
Speaker 1: from rapper author the Counselman. Don't stop there, man, You
Speaker 1: kids better know you can do anything. Man, stay silid.
Speaker 3: And on May thirteenth, about that, dude, sir, let's go,
Speaker 3: my gee love bro.
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