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Speaker 1: guessing lines Week twelve in the National Football League. Attribute
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Speaker 1: very hurt playing hurt Jeff Parlay, Producer number five. How
Speaker 1: you doing, Jeff, I'm alive. Keep telling you? Sounding like a
Speaker 1: a frog? No, well, bratty Brady Cannon sounded sounded like
Speaker 1: this over the weekend. Mitch was fighting this morning. Don't
Speaker 1: on cel Stars, I'm blaming him, Crime on him, crimeer
Speaker 1: River Ali, you all are you with your sickness? Is
Speaker 1: um Let's let's do a little guessing lines today. Let's
Speaker 1: get everybody healthy with this week eleven in the rear.
Speaker 1: Week twelve coming up. As always, we're bringing the star
Speaker 1: of the show, the South Point Hotel Casino sports Book Director.
Speaker 1: It's Chris Andrews. Good morning to you, Chris. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I'm not in studio. It's all you sick people.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that he don't don't don't, don't
Speaker 1: blame me. I'm the only one who's who's apparently healthy,
Speaker 1: you know, besides the leg problem. But every it's a
Speaker 1: peatradition here for goodness sake, So Jeff is gonna try
Speaker 1: to do market watch this afternoon. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: this well, as always, I started the show by asking
Speaker 1: how you did, but specifically, can we get an answer
Speaker 1: about that late San Francisco forty niners touchdown? How did
Speaker 1: that affect you? Well, believe it or not. The touchdown itself,
Speaker 1: it hurt us a little, not much though, I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of thousand dollars, not not not terrible.
Speaker 1: It would have been better if they didn't get it,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't that painful. However, if they were to
Speaker 1: kick the extra point like they had to up until
Speaker 1: this year, that would have been a significant difference. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that eleven was so much better than ten,
Speaker 1: um you know, well into six figures by not kicking
Speaker 1: that extra point, because yeah, that was the Minnesota miracle
Speaker 1: rule change where you don't have to bring out the
Speaker 1: whole team just to kick an extra point. That's meaningless.
Speaker 1: You know. The interesting thing about that, though, is both
Speaker 1: both from your perspective, obviously betters were affected by that.
Speaker 1: For those who don't know what we're talking about, late
Speaker 1: touchdown in the Niners Cardinals game, Parlay is shaking his
Speaker 1: head in his in dismay, but it made a four
Speaker 1: point game get to a ten point game and review.
Speaker 1: If there was a legit, you know, deliberate review like
Speaker 1: we have in the NFL, chances are it would have
Speaker 1: been overturned. And I'm curious how you feel because certainly,
Speaker 1: and I had no skin in that game in the end.
Speaker 1: But for betters, obviously that was a huge decision and
Speaker 1: the fact that we still don't treat every play, even
Speaker 1: post legalization, with the scrutiny it deserves. And I get it,
Speaker 1: the game's over, but man, people are betting on this
Speaker 1: stuff grizzy. Yeah, I mean why are how can that
Speaker 1: not be reviewed? I mean, I I just don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I really don't. Um yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Every touchdown is reviewed automatically, period, every touchdown.
Speaker 1: This one was not. Um, I guess when a lot
Speaker 1: of people were affected by, including yours truly. Um. So,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that's uh, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's one more way that they're gonna try to weasele
Speaker 1: on integrity the I I don't know it and have
Speaker 1: integrity without they should be a reverse integrity. Feel that.
Speaker 1: So in in the end, you did not have a
Speaker 1: good weekend or you were okay? What ended up working
Speaker 1: out for you? No, we had a terrible weekend. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Saturday was bad, Sunday was even worse. So it was
Speaker 1: well and we need to charge good to night. Well,
Speaker 1: I always don't cry for the bookmaker. Were we've been
Speaker 1: having a hell of a year. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: watched the figures pretty closely. We were pretty well ahead
Speaker 1: of last year, which was also a good year, and
Speaker 1: now we're after this weekend. I'm I haven't seen the
Speaker 1: final counting them out, but I'm thinking will be probably
Speaker 1: pretty close to last year. Uh, it's at the same
Speaker 1: point year to date. And you said, who you need tonight,
Speaker 1: Chargers you need tonight? Of course pretty good. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that that line is up to five now in favor
Speaker 1: of the chiefs of Mexico City and it's Nistecca h
Speaker 1: and people should know for those are like they'll get
Speaker 1: it back. Next we look at back. We have had
Speaker 1: a couple of recent seasons. Not no guarantee that this
Speaker 1: will happen, right, but from the book's perspective, we've had
Speaker 1: a couple of seasons recently where in Pro football betters
Speaker 1: like starting late October November December. Remember, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of seasons in here recently where betters just had this
Speaker 1: huge streak. Now you got it back in other sports,
Speaker 1: but in in pro football we've had these stretches. Not
Speaker 1: to say that this will happen, but it's possible. Let's
Speaker 1: put it that way. Well, there's no guarantees. Everybody always said, wow,
Speaker 1: you'll get it back. It says, well, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I mean yeah, if you look, you know,
Speaker 1: if you have like a ten year moving average, yeah,
Speaker 1: sure that that doesn't mean this week will get it
Speaker 1: back or the you know, there's what six weeks left
Speaker 1: in the year. Uh, you know, I don't know where
Speaker 1: we're going to be, you know. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: there's no guarantees. But you know, in ten years you'll
Speaker 1: look back and it will be okay. But I don't
Speaker 1: know about the next six weeks. I really don't know.
Speaker 1: Six weeks left in the season. We are headed into
Speaker 1: week twelve. For those are just landing on this show
Speaker 1: for the first time, Here's how this works. We uh, basically,
Speaker 1: I guess a Week twelve line. Christie will give me
Speaker 1: the matchup, I'll talk it through. I'll come up with
Speaker 1: a guest. He'll tell me what he'll put up here
Speaker 1: at the south Point right after the show. In that process,
Speaker 1: we hope to extract value at least a first sort
Speaker 1: of salvo at Week twelve NFL lines. And in the
Speaker 1: process we'll talk about what happened yesterday. Shall we start
Speaker 1: with Thursday night, Chris? Yeah, we've got a pretty good one,
Speaker 1: the Colts at Houston. By the way, what was the
Speaker 1: game or games that beat you the most yesterday? Oh? God,
Speaker 1: probably the New England game was the worst. So GYL
Speaker 1: I was talking to Jimmy after the you know, kind
Speaker 1: of before the dust even settled last night. I mean,
Speaker 1: we didn't have any good you know. Probably our best
Speaker 1: game was Baltimore beaten Houston. Um, you know, the Raider
Speaker 1: game was was like okay, but we just had so
Speaker 1: much live stuff going into that game. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: even though we've knocked on the parlay's point spread, parlays,
Speaker 1: money line parlays and teasers got there with Oakland. H Uh.
Speaker 1: Probably the only really good game was Houston. Bollard. Probably
Speaker 1: the worst name I'd have to go through and look
Speaker 1: a little bit more closely. That's probably New England and
Speaker 1: Philly was the worst. You said, India at Houston for
Speaker 1: Thursday night, That's the Thursday Night in at Houston, all right.
Speaker 1: Indie reclaims a share of the a f C South
Speaker 1: last night when Houston lost to Baltimore, So indian Houston
Speaker 1: tied to top of the division at six and four.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis coming off a win yesterday, Um, pretty handy win
Speaker 1: as it turns out. Uh, Indianapolis winning their game against
Speaker 1: Jacksonville thirty three to thirteen, covering the two and a
Speaker 1: half point spread quite easily. In that one Jacoby were
Speaker 1: stif one touchdown, one pick, sacked three times after missing
Speaker 1: last week's game with a bad left knee, and then
Speaker 1: a two pronged running attack. As it turned out, Jonathan
Speaker 1: Williams thirteen carries for one sixty yards twice gave himself
Speaker 1: up after long fourth quarter runs by the way to
Speaker 1: Keith clock moving and Marley mac fourteen for one on
Speaker 1: nine a touchdown, but he is out indefinitely with a
Speaker 1: fracture in his hand. Indie rushing for a season high
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty four yards. Wow. Uh in that
Speaker 1: game yesterday gains Jacksonville and then there Houston, as you
Speaker 1: alluded to, crushed by Baltimore. Was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: biggest game of the weekend, and Houston came in with
Speaker 1: four wins in five games before the By last week
Speaker 1: they fell behind Baltimore thirty four to nothing. Yes, there
Speaker 1: was a p I in the end zone that probably
Speaker 1: should have been called I probably should have been but
Speaker 1: thirty four to nothing first half only a hundred two
Speaker 1: yards of offense for Houston, They yielded four sacks, fell
Speaker 1: behind fourteen to nothing early DeShawn no touchdowns, one pick
Speaker 1: sacked six times, six times, twelve yards rushing on three carries,
Speaker 1: lost a fumble. Houston was two of ten on third
Speaker 1: down one of four, and fourth down, they were out
Speaker 1: of gained by Baltimore two out time of possession, if
Speaker 1: you will, thirty six nine one sacked seven times entirely.
Speaker 1: A J. McCarron came in, got sacked additionally, Houston minus
Speaker 1: five and a half. We'll put it in no man's land. Uh, no,
Speaker 1: you're a little high, and just I see three and
Speaker 1: a half and four Uh, probably a little bit more
Speaker 1: for you pretty evenly split the I gotta probably I
Speaker 1: like the three and a half. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go too much on yesterday's results, but I do, you know,
Speaker 1: give a little Just the more I watched football, I'm
Speaker 1: still convinced that football success begins at the offensive line.
Speaker 1: And the Colts have really finally, after they ruined Andrew
Speaker 1: lux career, finally they got a good offensive line. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, as evidenced by what you say, two and
Speaker 1: sixty eight yards rushing, Yeah, two sixty four. Okay, they
Speaker 1: did allow a couple of sacks though, but uh, you
Speaker 1: know that's something that might be on the set a
Speaker 1: little bit. But terrific offensive line. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: want to play yesterday's results too much, but I think
Speaker 1: this is a team with such a fantastic offensive line
Speaker 1: that just football begins right there. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Houston boy, I don't know, you know, I'm a couple
Speaker 1: of contests. I had Baltimore and all my contests really
Speaker 1: like them quite a big yesterday, And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get to Baltimore a little bit later,
Speaker 1: but right now I'm gonna go with the three and
Speaker 1: a half because I think I'm not sure how well
Speaker 1: Houston is gonna protect their quarterback, and I think Indianapolis
Speaker 1: will protect their quarterback and run the football very effectively
Speaker 1: against this team. I mean, it's a game for the
Speaker 1: a f C South lead, And would any outcome here
Speaker 1: surprise you whatsoever? I mean, barring a ridiculous blow out
Speaker 1: on either side. But really it's one of these games.
Speaker 1: It's it's a typical NFL game. I could see anything happening,
Speaker 1: anything in an already scorely division. I think Frank too
Speaker 1: is finally, you know, kind of coming into his own
Speaker 1: as a coach. Um. You know, I think when you
Speaker 1: look at Carson Wentz, and again, I'm sure we'll talk
Speaker 1: about Philly too, but he was I think he was
Speaker 1: helped tremendously, uh, you know, by Frank Reich, and now
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have him, And I think Jacoby Brissette
Speaker 1: right now is being helped quite a bit too by
Speaker 1: Frank Reich. So anyway, all that added up, I'd like
Speaker 1: three and stree and a half and four, but I'd
Speaker 1: like three and a half. Bet that's what I'm gonna open.
Speaker 1: I'll steer clear of our Andrew Luck not much of
Speaker 1: a drop off to Jacoby Brissette debate, Chris, I won't
Speaker 1: get into that. We'll leave that for the back burner.
Speaker 1: Let's start at the Sunday morning game. What he got
Speaker 1: Sunday morning? Uh, Miami at Cleveland. Okay, So every So,
Speaker 1: now here's the thing with this. I know what my
Speaker 1: guests would be, but based on the history of of
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, I know that will be way short.
Speaker 1: So when I give what I think it should be
Speaker 1: and what I think it will be, how about that
Speaker 1: Miami yesterday loses to the Buffalo Bills pretty handily thirty
Speaker 1: seven and twenty. Miami played with him for a while.
Speaker 1: They were in tease position for much of the game,
Speaker 1: but never in cover position. Ryan Fitzpatrick forty five three
Speaker 1: twenty three, no touchdowns, no picks, sacked seven times, Davante
Speaker 1: Parker seven catches, one thirty five but only twenty three
Speaker 1: yards rushing for the Dolphins. That was a big theme
Speaker 1: in the NFL yesterday. There was a bunch of teams
Speaker 1: that had just anemic rushing totals. Dolphins led the way
Speaker 1: twenty three rushing yards. And there's Cleveland, of course, with
Speaker 1: extra rest coming off the Thursday Miles Garrett game. Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield was seventeen of thirty two against the Steelers from one,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked once Odell Beckham Jr.
Speaker 1: Four for sixty but he was targeted ten times. But
Speaker 1: the Browns, as we talked about on Friday, eight penalties
Speaker 1: und twenty one yards. No Miles Garrett for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. Now, So, based on the historic way
Speaker 1: off guests I had in the Pittsburgh Miami game a
Speaker 1: few weeks back, I would say if I were guessing here,
Speaker 1: if it was just if I didn't know about that happening,
Speaker 1: I would say here, Cleveland minus seven and a half.
Speaker 1: But because I know about that, I know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be higher. So I'll say Cleveland minus ten. Yeah, even there,
Speaker 1: you're a little bit load ten and a half mostly,
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I see one eleven, and I would
Speaker 1: just say I like your number a lot better in
Speaker 1: Cleveland ten and a half over And I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, you know, And you know what
Speaker 1: kind of what you said about Miami was right that
Speaker 1: they certainly did not play well yesterday, but they played hard.
Speaker 1: Um and we've we're on this offensive line thing from
Speaker 1: the last game, uh you know which is in Miami
Speaker 1: a twenty three yards rushing they allowed seven sacks. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I mean those are not good size. But
Speaker 1: are the Browns the kind of team that could capitalize
Speaker 1: on that? I don't know. I mean they certainly, uh
Speaker 1: run the ball pretty well themselves. Uh you know, they
Speaker 1: protected Mayfield pretty good as far as their own offensive line. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I think Kennon have so I
Speaker 1: was way way too high. I'm gonna open ten. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it'll give me a bet at the minus ten,
Speaker 1: but I really, uh, if we were in a vacuum,
Speaker 1: I like your number better I really do. I think,
Speaker 1: where does Cleveland get get off? Me? And double digit
Speaker 1: sob any where did they get off? Where did they
Speaker 1: get off? I agree, I don't understand. All right, let's
Speaker 1: do one more. Let's plow through these on Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: M A little bit of a defensive battle here Denver
Speaker 1: at Buffalo. Well, Denver comported themselves well yesterday. Uh they
Speaker 1: are well. Now, let me know they have a couple
Speaker 1: of distinctions here. One, they're the first team since now
Speaker 1: to not score a fourth quarter touchdown in sixth straight games.
Speaker 1: So congratulations to you Broncos on that. But more more
Speaker 1: to the point, the Vikings erased a twenty to nothing
Speaker 1: halftime deficit yesterday against the Broncos. Broncos were up twenty
Speaker 1: to nothing at the half. Vikings did it with touchdowns
Speaker 1: on each of their first four drives in the second half.
Speaker 1: They forced three straight incomplete passes in the end zone
Speaker 1: over the final ten seconds to preserve a The Vikings
Speaker 1: did to preserve a twenty three victory yesterday against the Broncos. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, what were the Vikings doing calling that
Speaker 1: time out? Like Mike Zimmers Like I'll let you guys
Speaker 1: organize I'll call it time out here. While the clock
Speaker 1: was friend you know, was going down, Broncos had no
Speaker 1: way of stopping it. So the Broncos ended up with
Speaker 1: three shots at it yesterday in the final ten seconds,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings get away with it. Great comeback, no question,
Speaker 1: First time in five years. That's a span of one
Speaker 1: hundred games, including the playoffs, that an NFL team one
Speaker 1: after trailing by twenty or more points at halftime. Again,
Speaker 1: congratulations Denver Broncos. Um though if you recall, of course,
Speaker 1: and this it's sort of brings to mind, just sort
Speaker 1: of parenthetical aside here, how amazing that New England Atlanta
Speaker 1: super Bowl? It was right, super Bowl fifty one, eighteen
Speaker 1: point deficit, then it later got the twenty eight to
Speaker 1: three and New England came back and won that game.
Speaker 1: Like that's how big of a historical Outlier's super Boys.
Speaker 1: According to sport Radar, only the fourteenth time in NFL
Speaker 1: history that a twenty plus point halftime lead turned into
Speaker 1: a loss. Brandon Allen seventeen of thirty nine for two
Speaker 1: forty one touchdown, one pick, was sack two times. Cortland
Speaker 1: Sutton five catches a hundred thirteen the Broncos were five
Speaker 1: of eighteen on third down, eighteen third down opportunities. Uh.
Speaker 1: They were also four of four on fourth down. When
Speaker 1: I say they matriculate the ball down the field, I
Speaker 1: mean they matriculate like it is really slow. But they
Speaker 1: got it down there at the end, they had the
Speaker 1: ball thirty six minutes and forty three seconds didn't matter
Speaker 1: in the end. Kirk Cousins crushed him twenty nine of
Speaker 1: thirty five for Cousins against the Broncos. They did hold
Speaker 1: Minnesota the thirty seven rushing yards. They can hang their
Speaker 1: hat on that. Again, very low rushing total. They're at Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Buffalo beats Miami. As we talked about best ten game
Speaker 1: record for the Bills, Bills are seven and three. It's
Speaker 1: their best ten game record since they're trying to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs only the second time in twenty years. But
Speaker 1: going into yesterday, collective record of their comp of their
Speaker 1: opponents twelve and forty four. And then they beat the
Speaker 1: Dolphins yesterday who were two and eight, so they haven't
Speaker 1: been anybody. They did get seven we mentioned loud, only
Speaker 1: twenty three yards rushing. Josh Allen in the never ending
Speaker 1: stream of quarterback Allen's thirty three for two fifty six,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, no picks, ran for another score. His passer
Speaker 1: rating of one seventeen point seven, a career high. Get
Speaker 1: streak of passes without a pick to one sixty three.
Speaker 1: I'll say Buffalo minus four and a half. H boy,
Speaker 1: you're right on. I see it five and as high
Speaker 1: as five and a half. I'm opening five and a
Speaker 1: half on this game. Um, you know, Josh Allen and
Speaker 1: I got to watch that game because you know, we
Speaker 1: really we needed Miami pretty good this day. So I
Speaker 1: watched that game quite a bit. I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: he looked really, really good, probably as good as I've
Speaker 1: seen him play, uh in his NFL career. It's QBR
Speaker 1: nine two point two, and I gotta tell you he
Speaker 1: deserved that. He was fantastic. Um kind of said it before.
Speaker 1: Buffalo has been crushing bad teams, and I gotta put
Speaker 1: Denver in the bad team category, right, So right now
Speaker 1: put a mark next to Buffalo for me. I think
Speaker 1: this is just right their wheelhouse. And uh, I think
Speaker 1: they beat a bad Denver team. I think they beat
Speaker 1: him up pretty good. So I like five and a half.
Speaker 1: Tell you truth again, if I was in a vacuum,
Speaker 1: I would open this game six or higher. And the
Speaker 1: only reason I'd only opened at six as I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the totals about thirty six and a half thirty seven,
Speaker 1: so expect a really low scoring game. Always have a
Speaker 1: problem with the possibility of weather and buffalo at this
Speaker 1: time of year. But I like this as as high
Speaker 1: as can be, and five and a half is a
Speaker 1: high water mark. That's what I'm gonna open. And I
Speaker 1: see it as low as four and app mostly four
Speaker 1: and app, so I like the higher number for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, that's the thing about this show with Chrissy
Speaker 1: tells you exactly how he's gonna open. To hear the
Speaker 1: South Boy. I five and a half, uh four hundred
Speaker 1: twenty four total yards for the Bills, season high for them,
Speaker 1: and at one point when they were up sixteen and nothing,
Speaker 1: they had a two hundred eleven to twenty four yard
Speaker 1: advantage against Miami, so they came out smoking in that
Speaker 1: ball game. It's coming back on a numbers game right
Speaker 1: here at Visa. Welcome back to a Numbers game with
Speaker 1: Jill Alexander patient X has entered the studio. Los in
Speaker 1: his corner is the response to the accusation, not even
Speaker 1: patient X, lazy gentleman. We've isolated him. Hopefully everybody can
Speaker 1: get better now, Parlay, you blame Carlos for this? All right,
Speaker 1: let's remove it. Let's remove him from this equation. All right,
Speaker 1: let's guess the boardlines week twelve again, this attribute to
Speaker 1: the old Stardust radio show, trying to extract value in
Speaker 1: the coming week's lines. Uh, boy, in game yesterday and
Speaker 1: last night wasn't under in game fest. We'll get to
Speaker 1: that coming up, of course, but let's continue where we
Speaker 1: left off with Chris Andrews. By the way, you can
Speaker 1: follow Chrissy on Twitter and Andrew Sports. He, of course
Speaker 1: the author of the book. Then one day, available everywhere
Speaker 1: books are sold. Chris, Uh, well, it's available on Amazon,
Speaker 1: available in the South Point gift Shop. What have ye there?
Speaker 1: Bring it, bring it over and I'll sign it for you.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, when did this happen? Uh Friday? Fine?
Speaker 1: Nice job. Well I'm just I just I'm shaking my
Speaker 1: head while I'm talking to you. I don't know why
Speaker 1: it took, but but there now I can tell you
Speaker 1: that better late than never. All right, what's next? Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: that's nice. You could just go over the gift shop
Speaker 1: by a book, then trapes on over. You know what
Speaker 1: it was? That a two minute walk, not even ninety
Speaker 1: seconds over the sports book. Hey, can GRISSI sign this
Speaker 1: for me. I'll just come out and the sign it
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, absolutely, all right? What was the game again?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Pittsburgh gets into data? Is that what you said? Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: that's a barn burner. Pittsburgh's five and five. They come
Speaker 1: off the extra rest against Cleveland. As we talked about
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, who was twenty three or forty four in
Speaker 1: that game against Cleveland for one, but he had one
Speaker 1: touchdown and four picks, was sacked four times. Pittsburgh was
Speaker 1: two of eleven on third down, they were oh of
Speaker 1: three on fourth down. They had four turnovers for a
Speaker 1: turnover difference of minus four in that game. And then
Speaker 1: there's the Bengals, who yesterday gave it a run against
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I thought for a moment they had a
Speaker 1: shot not to be u They're oh in ten. They
Speaker 1: now match the Bengals for the worst start in franchise history.
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley thirteen of thirty one yesterday for a whopping
Speaker 1: on fifteen yards zack five times, uh, four times by
Speaker 1: Max Crosby two forty six total yards of offense. I'll
Speaker 1: say Pittsburgh minus four and a half on the road here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a little light. It's six and a half. M
Speaker 1: six and a half. Yeah, I see, I see a
Speaker 1: couple of sixes with juice on the favorite, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open six and a half. You know, we've been
Speaker 1: talking about offensive lines a lot this morning. You know,
Speaker 1: I love the Steelers offensive line. I used to anyway,
Speaker 1: but their offensive line is not played well this year
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure why. Uh. And you know, Mason
Speaker 1: Rudolph you talked about me, got sacked four times from
Speaker 1: forty three yards. Now, I'm sure part of that is
Speaker 1: they have no legs on built, but they didn't have
Speaker 1: them last year either. James Conner has been hurt, and
Speaker 1: I think Mason Rudolph is um, you know, a little
Speaker 1: uh not very nimble in the pocket, and not that
Speaker 1: you have to have a lot of speed, because I
Speaker 1: think you look back at Roethlisberger not certainly not a
Speaker 1: fast guy by any means, but kind of nimble in
Speaker 1: the pocket. Matan's Mason Rudolph doesn't have that, so all
Speaker 1: that kind of plays together. But make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is not played well. But it's still Cincinnati. Man.
Speaker 1: They did uh they showed a little hard yesterday, but
Speaker 1: then that is just a horrible, horrible football team. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open six and a half. I have no
Speaker 1: beef with that. Um uh, we'll see. I mean, can
Speaker 1: the Steelers get back in the playoff race? They actually can?
Speaker 1: You know, they probably, you know, they should win this game.
Speaker 1: They'll be the money line. What about a two sixty
Speaker 1: favorite something like that, maybe a little higher, but uh,
Speaker 1: just fortunately they're playing Cincinnati coming off a long rest,
Speaker 1: and uh it's probably is in their wheelhouse. But you know,
Speaker 1: I want to lay too much on Pittsburgh. I really wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Rudolph does not look like the answer. It looks like
Speaker 1: you'll be one of those serviceable type quarterbacks for his career,
Speaker 1: but not somebody you could go to franchise around. Certain
Speaker 1: by actual standings currently with six weeks left of the
Speaker 1: NFL season, some teams obviously on by others not Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: along with the Titans both at five and five, just
Speaker 1: one game out of the sixth and final playoffs spot,
Speaker 1: which is either Houston or Oakland. Houston would have the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker right now, those teams at six and four, So
Speaker 1: not out of the realm of possibility, I guess. But
Speaker 1: we're being kind and and this proves one thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I am consistent. If nothing, I am always underrating Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: in the market. So six and a half. My guess
Speaker 1: was four and a half. You're six and a half.
Speaker 1: You said, yes, yeah, okay, what's next? The Giants at Chicago? God,
Speaker 1: is it me or some of these games terrible? Uh?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. There's a big dist you know,
Speaker 1: I guess if we run down the listed, it's only
Speaker 1: a couple of really good teams in this league, it
Speaker 1: really is. Yeah, you know, you're right, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: But this boy, some of these matches are jared Giants
Speaker 1: coming off a bye there two and eight against the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears four and six. Now after last night, the
Speaker 1: Bears lose to the Rams. For those who missed this game, Uh,
Speaker 1: last night what a barn Bernard was? Rams beat the
Speaker 1: Bears seventeen to seven. For those of us who had
Speaker 1: unders pre flop and then under it in game it
Speaker 1: was a financial boon um And at the end of
Speaker 1: the game, I mean, there's not much to say. Trabiskyt
Speaker 1: three for one ninety in this game, one touchdown, one.
Speaker 1: Picky was sacked once. He was benched at the end
Speaker 1: of this game. So when the Bears were down ten,
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie makes the decision, we believe, to go to
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel. Now we saw Matt Naggie talking to Chase
Speaker 1: to uh Mitchell Drobisky for about sixty seconds in his ear,
Speaker 1: presumably to let him down easy, just give him a talk.
Speaker 1: But then the Bears twitter says, nope, it was a hip.
Speaker 1: And after the game, Trabisky said this quote. I was
Speaker 1: just all arm in the second half, pretty much, just
Speaker 1: trying to fight through the pain, trying to make the throws.
Speaker 1: I still felt like I was still putting the ball
Speaker 1: in some pretty good spots. Just couldn't move around, it
Speaker 1: couldn't buy time. So depending on what you believe, go
Speaker 1: with that. Bears ran twenty two more plays in the rams,
Speaker 1: but average only three point six yards per play. Again,
Speaker 1: they lose. That said, it's the Giants, and I'll say
Speaker 1: Bears minus six, six and a half. Boy, there's a
Speaker 1: tough one for me. Um who wants to lay that though? Geez, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't like your number better here,
Speaker 1: you know, but they see some higher numbers. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what that. You know. Sometimes I see some of
Speaker 1: these numbers unless we're they're actually open or they're just
Speaker 1: kind of putting stuff in their computer. Um, sure, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably open six and a half, but I
Speaker 1: see a trending lower, gonna go lower. You know. Patrick
Speaker 1: Covers came by last night to do a little spot
Speaker 1: and one of you know, usually on these prime time
Speaker 1: games we get a lot of overplay, and he was
Speaker 1: asking me, oh, they bet you be over and no,
Speaker 1: and I said it on the thing, I said, I
Speaker 1: don't know where points are going to come from this game.
Speaker 1: I really don't. And uh, of course the giants are
Speaker 1: the Bears didn't produce, you know, but seven points in
Speaker 1: the rams weren't a whole lot better. But you know, again,
Speaker 1: I see this, Um, I'm not sure where points are
Speaker 1: going to come from in this game. To total fourty
Speaker 1: and a half and forty one, so probably a little
Speaker 1: higher than I expected it to be. But boy didn't
Speaker 1: have a tough time landing point here. I am an
Speaker 1: open six and half just because I see a couple
Speaker 1: of spots where it's a little higher. But if I
Speaker 1: see it going lower, I'm anna open lower. Do we
Speaker 1: have that that Bears tweet Jeff about Robiski yesterday, because
Speaker 1: that's one of the things they're going with the high
Speaker 1: we're going with the hip injury here, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know that Matt Naggie talks to him for
Speaker 1: sixty seconds about a hip injury is here. So it
Speaker 1: seemed to me to be a benching, albeit um either
Speaker 1: disguised or honestly refuted by the Bears. Here's Adam Rank.
Speaker 1: Benching your biscuit at this point is like a restaurant
Speaker 1: comping your meal after you get food poisoning. It's too late.
Speaker 1: I'm already sick, referring to the Bears late benching of
Speaker 1: Mitch r Bisky in that ball game. We'll get to
Speaker 1: the Rams side of things, because the Rams tride something
Speaker 1: completely different last night, which Chris collins Worth did a
Speaker 1: wonderful job of pointing out they were all run, or
Speaker 1: just a majority run last night, a real re emergence
Speaker 1: of Todd Gurley, So a whole different game plan there,
Speaker 1: I said, Chicago, mind of six. Chrissie likes my number better,
Speaker 1: but you're opening it at what Chris. I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: six and apps just I see it higher, but if
Speaker 1: I see it trending lower in any way, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go lower. Okay, let's do one more Openland after the Jets. Geez,
Speaker 1: people gonna watch these games? If there was no betting,
Speaker 1: would people watch these games? Heidia? I mean, seriously, Oakland
Speaker 1: six and four. I mean, if you again ten weeks ago,
Speaker 1: if you whisper in my area's like, hey, Oakland's gonna
Speaker 1: be six and four, I would have just laughed at you.
Speaker 1: But six and four they are. The Jets. Beat the Redskins. Yes,
Speaker 1: first of all, Oakland, as we talked about, beat the Bengals,
Speaker 1: so the third straight win, all at home after a
Speaker 1: seven weeks stretch on the road. So they were in
Speaker 1: a first place tie. Kansas City plays tonight, so it's
Speaker 1: a temporary tie, but Kansas City plays in charge to night.
Speaker 1: But right now, the Oakland Raiders are in the first
Speaker 1: place tie in the a f C West. Imagine that.
Speaker 1: Derek Carr twenty five of twenty nine yesterday for two
Speaker 1: ninety two. Is that good? One touchdown, one pick sack
Speaker 1: three times. Josh Jacobs twenty three for one twelve. It's
Speaker 1: his fourth one yard game in the last six weeks.
Speaker 1: Raiders were seven of fifteen on third downs. As I said,
Speaker 1: Max Crosby rookie record for the Raiders with four sacks.
Speaker 1: But it was against the Bengals. Jets. Can you explain
Speaker 1: to me, Chrissie what that Redskins money was yesterday morning?
Speaker 1: Just makes no sense to me. Poker group, the poker
Speaker 1: group is being sort of identified as the majority of
Speaker 1: this redskin money that moved the line. Poker group. Maybe
Speaker 1: a little more poker, a little less redskin bedding taken
Speaker 1: from a Redskin fan lifelong stop that? Uh? Sam Donald
Speaker 1: nineteen of thirty four touchdowns, one pick sack twice. Ryan
Speaker 1: Griffin was his favorite target five or one o nine
Speaker 1: in a touchdown the Jets, Jeff, your Jets eclipse four
Speaker 1: dred yards of offense for the first time in twenty games.
Speaker 1: All I know is my Sam Donald over a touchdown
Speaker 1: prop again's uh off of life support in play and
Speaker 1: somewhat in play miraculously enough? What was the number before
Speaker 1: thee I need eleven more, I need two touchdowns a
Speaker 1: game and not dead. I believe you're comment before the
Speaker 1: season was how can this not win? Well, I didn't
Speaker 1: have mononucleosis on the on the landscape, Gilts, A kissing
Speaker 1: problem is what it is? Oakland minus four and a half?
Speaker 1: I guess, Chris, Yeah, we're lower than that. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at three or three and a half. The three and
Speaker 1: a halfs have gotten taken and I could see a
Speaker 1: lot of juice on the dog for anybody using three
Speaker 1: and a half. Do some of the favorite at the three?
Speaker 1: You know this is you know, we get you know
Speaker 1: and listen. It's worked out for us in the long run.
Speaker 1: But we use everything at eleven and ten therapy south
Speaker 1: Point and uh, I think that's right. But there are
Speaker 1: certain games where we definitely have to sweat to three.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be one of them. I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: three just because that's the solid number. You know. That's
Speaker 1: if it comes three and you were three all week,
Speaker 1: it's just a push. If you're back and forth a
Speaker 1: lot between the three and three and a half, which
Speaker 1: I have a feeling we will be. Then of course,
Speaker 1: we're tremendously exposed to the three. So I will open three.
Speaker 1: If they beat me up, they bet me up, and
Speaker 1: then we'll go to the three and a half. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open three because I really, I really hate
Speaker 1: some of these games that are just kind of come
Speaker 1: like this. But you know, boy, the Jets they look good,
Speaker 1: but man, they played a very bad opponent. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about Washington a little bit later, you know, Oakland.
Speaker 1: I don't want to rush Danny Judge because really, Derek
Speaker 1: Carr I thought played very well and he's been pretty
Speaker 1: good in the last couple of weeks. You know, Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the leader right now for coach
Speaker 1: of the Year. But I think Rudin has to be
Speaker 1: right there. He's not a touristic probout this team, and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, but I mean, I haven't been a pretty
Speaker 1: good game, you know. I'm not sure if he would
Speaker 1: be watching it without a bet, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a pretty competitive game, uh
Speaker 1: somewhat of a high total forty six and a half
Speaker 1: forty seven. So but I'm gonna open three. They'll probably
Speaker 1: bet me up and uh when they do, they do
Speaker 1: so an open three right now, Chris Flika, lifelong Jets fan,
Speaker 1: texting in, they have the Bengals and Dolphins. Still it's
Speaker 1: alive Jets. That's a reference to their season went to
Speaker 1: their season win total. Um oh, it's also Jeff's touchdown
Speaker 1: prop is what he's talking about, specifically that Sam Donald
Speaker 1: could get there. So uh, well, there's something to be
Speaker 1: excited about. We'll come back. We'll guess some more of
Speaker 1: these games. Hopefully the matchups improved. My goodness, Week twelve
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, where the uh, the haves
Speaker 1: and the have nots, the chasm widens as the cream
Speaker 1: of the crop shows itself. We'll come back. It's Chris
Speaker 1: Andrews right here guessing lines on a Numbers game at Visa.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Numbers game with Jill Alexander. Let
Speaker 1: me just review the matchups. So let me get back
Speaker 1: to my comment before I said, if people weren't betting
Speaker 1: on this stuff, who would be watching this? So let's
Speaker 1: let's take the Thursday night game out. Because the Thursday
Speaker 1: night game is good. It's for the a f C
Speaker 1: South lead between the Colts and the Texans. But here
Speaker 1: here the matchups we've gone through so far on this show.
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping, by the way that because we've used
Speaker 1: all these teams that we have some good matchups coming up.
Speaker 1: But here are the ones we've gone We've gone through
Speaker 1: all right on Sunday, Denver and Buffalo, the Giants at
Speaker 1: the Bears, the Steelers at the Bengals, the Dolphins at
Speaker 1: the Browns, Oakland at the Jets. Good god, that seriously,
Speaker 1: if no one's made, you'd watch this, Jeff, if there
Speaker 1: was no such thing as betting. Yes, but I'm a
Speaker 1: crazy person. What's wrong with you? I will tell you
Speaker 1: the Giants and Bears game might be. You and I
Speaker 1: were talking about it before and then when you told
Speaker 1: me your guests, and I folow was my first word
Speaker 1: after that? Why I can't remember what I said. That's
Speaker 1: gross that the Bears almost a touchdown favorite against anybody.
Speaker 1: He did say, that is gross. It's so true. Uh,
Speaker 1: Like I said that there are opportunities. They are betting
Speaker 1: opportunities everywhere they have bound. This is why we watch, right,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't have to be a good matchup. We're
Speaker 1: making money. We don't care if that's the case. But
Speaker 1: just if you Let's say you were not allowed to
Speaker 1: make a bet pre flop. No in game. I'm like, Jeff,
Speaker 1: let me just pick one. You were required to watch
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Bears next week for sixty minutes. Enjoy.
Speaker 1: There might be comedy in that game. That that that guy.
Speaker 1: My first love is the National Football League. It pains
Speaker 1: me to say this about these games, but good lord, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I assume these these matchups have to get better. Let's
Speaker 1: bring Chris Andrews back from the South Point Hotel Casino
Speaker 1: sports book perch that he is at. Where you're headed
Speaker 1: to l A today, Chris, Yeah, I am. I got
Speaker 1: some some tests in the morning, but expect everything will
Speaker 1: be okay. We'll find out that that's why they tested,
Speaker 1: by the way. First of all, does get better expecondly.
Speaker 1: You know when the highest handles yesterday was please tell
Speaker 1: me that's in the Redskins. Okay, we had a huge
Speaker 1: handle on that game. Okay, but but it moved. How
Speaker 1: was your personal handle here at this Obviously it moved.
Speaker 1: There was Redskin money in the morning. Was it all
Speaker 1: Redskins money from you? For you? No? No, no, Well,
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of Redskin money early, but we
Speaker 1: had a lot of Jet money coming back the other way,
Speaker 1: and I mean we had tons of money both ways
Speaker 1: that we really didn't need much of anything on that game. Um,
Speaker 1: but they bet the game, they bet the moneyline, they
Speaker 1: bet the first half. I'm not sure if they've got
Speaker 1: the second half, and I'm not sure, but that we
Speaker 1: did a ton of business on that game. I always said,
Speaker 1: you lay eleven and ten, you pick a winner. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's the Patriots and Ravens or the
Speaker 1: Jets and the Redskins. I mean, it's it's all the
Speaker 1: same guys. They bet the heck out of that game yesterday.
Speaker 1: That's why betting is a beautiful thing. But again, if
Speaker 1: there was no betting, and I'm like, all right, watch
Speaker 1: this game, enjoy the Redskins. Let me just point this
Speaker 1: out because i know we're not yet at this game necessarily,
Speaker 1: but against your Jets, Jeff, Uh, the Skins allowed thirty
Speaker 1: four points to the team that entered with the worst
Speaker 1: offense in the league. Uh continues to be dead last
Speaker 1: on third down. Redskins gave up thirty four points to
Speaker 1: that outfit. As you would say, Christie, And now people
Speaker 1: people are worried. Not worried, but people are speculating that
Speaker 1: Greg Manuski, the Skin's defensive coordinators, in big trouble. They've
Speaker 1: already gotten rid of Jay Gruden. Now it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: Greg manusk if you, if you let the Jet score
Speaker 1: thirty four, God help you. Daniel Snyder is gonna come down.
Speaker 1: But the fans in d C yesterday chanting sell the team,
Speaker 1: and I mean, for God's sakes, please, it's a life
Speaker 1: sentence with Daniel Snyder. Uh. The Redskins had a streak
Speaker 1: of a streak, by the way, in quotes, sixteen consecutive
Speaker 1: quarters without a touchdown before Darius Guys scored on a
Speaker 1: forty five yards screen passed early in the fourth yesterday.
Speaker 1: In that span, someone not Yahoo put this together. In
Speaker 1: that span, the Nationals one six playoff games, a pendant,
Speaker 1: the World Series title in the parade, and they had
Speaker 1: a parade. You're Washington Redskin? Anyway? Was that even the
Speaker 1: game we were gonna talk about we stray? I no, no,
Speaker 1: that we were when we got well SEMs, We're wal
Speaker 1: Let me just throw this one up. I had a
Speaker 1: guy tweeting me this morning, read my book loved it.
Speaker 1: Uh had a similar experience as some of the things
Speaker 1: I outlined in the book about Harris, and so he
Speaker 1: had kind of a similar experience, and an other guys
Speaker 1: waded to the two of us. I'm currently reading the
Speaker 1: book and enjoying it. If I take nothing else away
Speaker 1: from the book, it will be that Chris Andrews hates Harry. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is the theme in the book, that the whole chapter.
Speaker 1: You have passed the reading comprehension portion of the book. Yes,
Speaker 1: YEA not a fan of Chris Andrews. Such a great read.
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's do a game here. Still early games,
Speaker 1: I would imagine on Sunday. Yeah, yeah, this one isn't
Speaker 1: too bad. By the way, we got some big games
Speaker 1: come up. Carolina at New Orleans, Carolina at New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Um My, buddy. He said this last night after the
Speaker 1: Ram Chicago game. He said, the worst thing that happened
Speaker 1: from this game is that pant is that Bears fans,
Speaker 1: we'll not get Kim Newton now because of Kyle Island's performance.
Speaker 1: So let me let me clarify that Carolina now has
Speaker 1: lost three of four. Yesterday they lose to Atlanta twenty
Speaker 1: nine to three. We'll get to the Falcons. My goodness.
Speaker 1: But Kyle Allen yesterday thirty one of fifty for three
Speaker 1: twenty five, but no touchdowns, four picks, and he was
Speaker 1: sacked five times. He's now thrown nine interceptions in the
Speaker 1: past four games after not throwing any in his first
Speaker 1: four career starts. So yeah, that happened. So will we
Speaker 1: see Cam Newton now? Because Cam Newton was speculated they
Speaker 1: were gonna get rid of Cam Neon. They're not on
Speaker 1: the hook for him financially after this year. Might end
Speaker 1: up in Chicago. Uh. Christian McCaffrey continues to fill up
Speaker 1: the box score. But that was about it for Carolina yesterday.
Speaker 1: Fourteen carries, seventy yards, eleven catches, one one. But the
Speaker 1: Panthers against the Falcons the the all of a sudden
Speaker 1: vaunted Falcons defense. UH two of fourteen on third downs,
Speaker 1: they were three of five on fourth downs, but four turnovers.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, all picks from Kyle Allen minus four
Speaker 1: in turnover differential for Carolina yesterday. They were trailing twenty
Speaker 1: six to nothing late in the game and Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: elected to go for a field goal instead of a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I hate when they do that. I want to get
Speaker 1: points on the board. Then there's New Orleans. Bounced back
Speaker 1: win for New Orleans. They got crushed by at Lant
Speaker 1: of the previous week and they just went to town
Speaker 1: yesterday on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat the Bucks thirty
Speaker 1: four to seventeen. Drew Brees got back off the Schneide
Speaker 1: thirty five twenty eight, three touchdowns, no picks, wasn't sacked.
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas eight of one, eight eight catches, one yards
Speaker 1: to touchdown. He's the first player in league history with
Speaker 1: ninet plus catches in the first ten games of a season. Wow.
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara thirteen carry seventy five yards, ten catches, forty
Speaker 1: seven st seven of thirteen on third down, one of
Speaker 1: one on fourth, nine penalties though for seventy six yards. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: New Orleans minus seven and a half. I'll say, you're
Speaker 1: like I see from anywhere from eight and a half
Speaker 1: is a low water mark. But juice on the favorite
Speaker 1: at eight and a half almost to ten. The ten
Speaker 1: has some juice on the dogs, but I probably nine
Speaker 1: and a half, i'd say, is the predominant number. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to open it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go too crazy, you know. But back to Josh
Speaker 1: Allen that way, which Allen does that one? Kyle, Well,
Speaker 1: I got him all my stuff, Kyle Allen. I mean,
Speaker 1: the kid did start off playing some pretty good football.
Speaker 1: But you know, these defensive coordinator as well, except for
Speaker 1: maybe the guy in Washington, but they're pretty smart guys.
Speaker 1: And then they could make their adjustments, and you know,
Speaker 1: you as a quarterback or as an offensive coordinator or whatever,
Speaker 1: you have to make your adjustments, and he has not
Speaker 1: adjusted anyway. I don't want to get too high on
Speaker 1: this number. It is still a division game, decent rivalry.
Speaker 1: Uh So, I don't want to go too high, but
Speaker 1: I like I like the higher number at this point,
Speaker 1: which would be nine and a half. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I do see one ten with decent juice on the dog.
Speaker 1: I don't want to open ten right now, but I will.
Speaker 1: I am gonna open nine and a half to where
Speaker 1: they want to go with that one. Alright, nine and
Speaker 1: a half it is, I said, a seven and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm low. What about the NFC here, by the way, Now,
Speaker 1: I get Minnesota's played one extra game and they're on
Speaker 1: a by this week, but five teams. Here we are
Speaker 1: with just uh six weeks left in the season. Five
Speaker 1: teams in the NFC with eight wins or more, nine
Speaker 1: Ers nine and one, Packers and Saints and Seahawks all
Speaker 1: eight and two, Vikings eight and three. Very top heavy.
Speaker 1: So really it's it's about what's the the only other
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at it, the only other
Speaker 1: position available is the NFC East winner of either Dallas
Speaker 1: or Philly, and that's the story. Everybody else has a
Speaker 1: lot of ground to make up. Rams being the closest
Speaker 1: at six and four. We'll get to them, We'll come back,
Speaker 1: will continue guessing lines. Week twelve, NFL Chris Andrews right
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Speaker 1: what was that you were reading this story about Chargers
Speaker 1: fans traveling? So? Pete Gradov of the Kansas City Star
Speaker 1: tweeted out about ten minutes ago, an ESPN producer told
Speaker 1: him that Chargers fans bought forty thousand tickets to that
Speaker 1: tonight's game at as that at a studio as Techa
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. I'm gonna put that in the category
Speaker 1: is there is no way there will be forty yards
Speaker 1: the chance of that, no way. Um. But I do
Speaker 1: feel for the people of San Diego. They loved that team, man,
Speaker 1: they loved that team. But yeah, forty thousand sounds? How
Speaker 1: can I put this high? Game is tonight again in
Speaker 1: Mexico City, the last of the International Series. There was
Speaker 1: four games in London. There was one in Mexico City
Speaker 1: tonight Kansas City. Now, let's say consensus about four and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites against the Chargers, total at fifty
Speaker 1: three fifty three and a half somewhere in that pocket. Um, Jeff,
Speaker 1: how did you feel real quick, because we have a
Speaker 1: short break here, we'll get back to guessing the lines
Speaker 1: in the moment. How did you feel about the two
Speaker 1: otago by loa injury on Saturday for Obama against Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: And how did you feel specifically about the Nick Saban backlash?
Speaker 1: You know what, I have no issue with Saban leaving
Speaker 1: him in the game. You play him a half, you
Speaker 1: don't expect the catastrophic injury to happen. It was a
Speaker 1: flukey play to knock them out too. It was two
Speaker 1: guys sandwiched him, he got off balance and lo and
Speaker 1: behold the hip dislocates, and it's a terrible thing. It's
Speaker 1: it stinks to see that happen. But I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: bash Saban for leaving him in the plants. Sure as
Speaker 1: heck seemed like it was he was gonna play a
Speaker 1: half and I was gonna be that just terrible timing.
Speaker 1: And you gotta feel for the kid who now just
Speaker 1: can't catch a break injury wise. Poor kid feels so
Speaker 1: bad for two otago by loa. Yeah. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'm no Nick Saban fan. I like to say about
Speaker 1: Dabbo Sweeney. I was saying this on Flatter Show yesterday
Speaker 1: on the Green Zone here on Visa. I'm no Nick
Speaker 1: Saban fan. I used to say that Dabo Sweeney taught
Speaker 1: us we can win national championships with a smile on
Speaker 1: your face, which is my way of taking a shot
Speaker 1: at Nick Saban. And I do think Saban is a
Speaker 1: tone deaf guy. Right, So even in the at the postgame,
Speaker 1: first postgame interview I believe was Molly McGrath, He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'd really like to talk about the kids who played
Speaker 1: in this game, and you know, we're on the field
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, god, like so tone deaf. That said,
Speaker 1: I agree with you completely, like this is not his fault.
Speaker 1: And for those listen, if you didn't think two should
Speaker 1: have played in the first place, that's one thing. But
Speaker 1: hopefully you saw that he was perfectly fine out there.
Speaker 1: He was throwing dimes all day against Mississippi State. If
Speaker 1: you're coming back with this sort of retroactive oh, he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have had him in for that last drive though, which,
Speaker 1: like the Jesse Palmer's of the world, we're saying, just
Speaker 1: stop with that. Stop it, like were you saying before
Speaker 1: you know it? Just when would There's nothing about that drive, um,
Speaker 1: that caused this. It was a fluke, injuries unrelated to
Speaker 1: his previous injuries and sometimes just happens, and just feel
Speaker 1: so bad for the kid. But stop with the Nick
Speaker 1: Saban fashion. Not his fault. We'll come back. We'll resume
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Speaker 1: for more of a numbers game with Jill Alexander. It's
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Speaker 1: lines Week twelve in the National Football Ague. It is
Speaker 1: Gil Alexander Jeff Parlay playing hurt today producing number five.
Speaker 1: Jeff sounds like frog. He's caught whatever Carlos started in
Speaker 1: this UH. In this studio, Carlo's patient accent in the corner.
Speaker 1: Can't speak for himself, can't defend himself, but he's vehemently
Speaker 1: opposed to this denying. He's denying right now, incorrectly denying. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I wonder what he was doing to get all these
Speaker 1: germs in here. Um Tomorrow college football, of course, with
Speaker 1: Pete feu Tech, we will talk about what he thinks
Speaker 1: the UH rankings three point oh out of six will
Speaker 1: be a college football where do you think Bama drops? Do? Now?
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think Bama gets judged for
Speaker 1: mc jones version because they got They had multiple big
Speaker 1: injuries in this game, right, So it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what happens with Bama in these rankings. Were does
Speaker 1: does Oregon in Utah jump up like I mean this?
Speaker 1: This will be fascinating to me. By the way, the
Speaker 1: biggest college football play of the whole weekend was the
Speaker 1: kid on Minnesota missing the extra point. Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: he clanged one in early one in earlier and then
Speaker 1: missed the extra point to UH. Basically not basically he
Speaker 1: did destroy every single Minnesota better with that kick. Miss
Speaker 1: oh the missed extra point at the end which made
Speaker 1: it twenty three. Tonight, Yeah, Baylor, both the undefeated Baylor
Speaker 1: in Minnesota go down. Obviously, the three undefeated at the
Speaker 1: top remain, but Baylor, wow, just they just fork it
Speaker 1: over to Oklahoma. Baylor up twenty eight to UH three
Speaker 1: and squander that in Oklahoma comes back to UH to
Speaker 1: torpedo Baylor's undefeated seasons. So on Minnesota and Baylor losing
Speaker 1: heartbreakers over the weekend. We'll talk college football with Pete tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we'll talk three man. We've college basketball. You know how
Speaker 1: we roll the rest of the week later in the
Speaker 1: week too. Sean Patrick Griffin, do you know who that is? Jeff?
Speaker 1: He is the author of book Gaming the Game, which
Speaker 1: is the definitive look at the Tim Donnahee scandal. There's
Speaker 1: a Tim Donnahee movie that's out now, and he is
Speaker 1: outraged and he wants to come on and tell people
Speaker 1: just what a sham the whole thing is. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk to him on the show later as well. Of course,
Speaker 1: all the usual characters, Bill Crackenburger, Todd Wish and Evan
Speaker 1: so on. Let's guess some more lines Week twelve. Christy
Speaker 1: Andrews is here at Andrews Sports on Twitter. Chrissy, where
Speaker 1: do we leave off? For goodness sake? Okay, next up
Speaker 1: Ampa Bay at your Super Bowl favorite, the nflton what
Speaker 1: do you make of the Falcons? The difference two weeks
Speaker 1: makes right? I mean like they were one in seven
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden was the last two weeks
Speaker 1: the Falcons have outscored their opponents, the Saints and yesterday
Speaker 1: the Panthers, who are you know? No slouches right, fifty
Speaker 1: five to twelve, fifty five to twelve, all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: The Falcons defense UH nothing short of dominant, allowing just
Speaker 1: four field goals and no touchdowns. Yesterday against Carolina, they
Speaker 1: were plus four in turnovers as we mentioned, Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: thirty one three eleven, one touchdown, no picks, sack three times,
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley eight for one, forty three touchdown. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: just doing Tampa Bay things yesterday against UH, yesterday the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, they lose, as we mentioned, thirty four
Speaker 1: to seventeen. It's amazing how all these South visa NFC
Speaker 1: South teams always happened, sort of late in the season.
Speaker 1: They'll start playing each other and you forget who plays
Speaker 1: who one week from the next. But this one's Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay at Atlanta Jamis Winston yesterday. I mean it just
Speaker 1: this is just a just copy and pace this with
Speaker 1: this Jamis Winston box score one for three, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: four picks, sack two times. Bucks only had thirty six
Speaker 1: rushing yards, but they were in catchup mode. They were
Speaker 1: minus four versus New Orleans and turnovers four turnovers. They
Speaker 1: were out time of possession by New Orleans thirty seven
Speaker 1: minutes to twenty three minutes. The Saints out gained the
Speaker 1: Bucks to eleven while building an early twenty to nothing lead,
Speaker 1: control the ball for twenty of the game's first twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes. Quote this is Mike Evans. Quote. It's very frustrating.
Speaker 1: We've got the players. It's never been about the players
Speaker 1: since I've been here, said Mike Evans, closing in on
Speaker 1: his six one tho yards season. It's just we've been very,
Speaker 1: very inconsistent. Unquote. I'll say, I think that's really not
Speaker 1: very being steeped in reality there. You're just not very
Speaker 1: good at football. I'll say Atlanta minus four and a half,
Speaker 1: you're right on it's four or four and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm opening five. You know, Jill, I had at land
Speaker 1: of the last two weeks, and you know the contests
Speaker 1: that I'm in, and I think we talked about this
Speaker 1: last week. The some of the parts for Atlanta, some
Speaker 1: of the parts was greater than the whole all season.
Speaker 1: We'll now finally that some of the parts is up
Speaker 1: to the whole. Um. You know, they're really playing probably
Speaker 1: the way that they should have been playing a whole season.
Speaker 1: And uh, I thought they really played well. And then conversely,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, what am I looking at here? Yeah, they
Speaker 1: ran the ball at eight carries yesterday for thirty six yards,
Speaker 1: but two of those were Jameis Winston runs. So running
Speaker 1: backs got six carries, I mean, and I know they
Speaker 1: fell behind early. And uh the one thing I always
Speaker 1: kind of noticed when you're you know, even like let's
Speaker 1: say Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, even when they were
Speaker 1: losing or trying to rally a team for a comeback,
Speaker 1: they never abandoned the run. And you know, I like,
Speaker 1: I like Bruce arians a lot, but you know, he's
Speaker 1: been really inconsistent with Tampa Bay. I'm sure part of
Speaker 1: it is the inconsistency of Jameis Winston. Uh. And when
Speaker 1: I see inconsistent, he's had some pretty darned good games.
Speaker 1: He's had some pretty awful games, including instudent um. But
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I like Atlanta. I think
Speaker 1: they're playing some terrific fall But I think this is
Speaker 1: what they should have been playing all year. I think
Speaker 1: they should have definitely been a playoff contender all year.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what happened to them, But right
Speaker 1: now I think we're seeing a team, uh, that that's
Speaker 1: finally putting it together. I'm gonna open this one high.
Speaker 1: I like five better, and that's where I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with that. Mike Evans quote just screams denial to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just inconsistent. No, you guys just aren't very good.
Speaker 1: Like you can't. This is not inconsistent. In consistent means
Speaker 1: you you know, you win as much as you lose
Speaker 1: more or less. That's just not the case. Um. But anyway,
Speaker 1: these are still early games here, Chris. One more early game,
Speaker 1: all right, what's that one? Okay? Detroit at Washington, Yes,
Speaker 1: another barn Burner Yeah, another one. I'm sure we would
Speaker 1: tune into without a bet. Yes, I thought you said
Speaker 1: these games were getting good. Detroit's three six and one,
Speaker 1: Washington one and nine again getting all that money yesterday
Speaker 1: for no God blessed reason. Um, Detroit has lost six
Speaker 1: of seven. They lose to Dallas yesterday. Uh. They lose
Speaker 1: by the score of uh thirty five to twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Jeff Driscoll. Jeff Driscoll comported himself pretty well here. Fifteen
Speaker 1: of twenty six for two oh nine, two touchdowns and
Speaker 1: no picks. He was sacked three times, also fifty one
Speaker 1: yards on the ground, eight carries in a touchdown. Detroit
Speaker 1: got killed by penalties eleven for eighty nine in this
Speaker 1: game yesterday. And then there's the Redskins, so we already
Speaker 1: talked about, already made the Nationals comparison. It's the worst
Speaker 1: ten games start since nineteen sixty one. Fellow Redskin fans. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were oh nine and one that year. Dwayne Haskins Jr.
Speaker 1: Nineteen of thirty five or two fourteen, two touchdowns, one pick.
Speaker 1: He was sacked six times. The Redskins mustard only two
Speaker 1: five total yards of offense against the Jets. Jets. By
Speaker 1: the way, that Jets Redskins scores cosmetic. The fact that
Speaker 1: it ended up thirty four to seventeen. Those were two
Speaker 1: backdoor touchdowns. The Redskins were getting smoked in that game.
Speaker 1: What was the thirty four to three? At one point
Speaker 1: thirty four to three before Guy Dice made one of
Speaker 1: one of the more impressive touchdown runs off a screen
Speaker 1: I've seen in a while. At least they got that
Speaker 1: going for him. As I mentioned Greg Monowski's job perhaps
Speaker 1: in Jeopardy um I told talked about the Nationals comparison,
Speaker 1: how they won six playoff games and penn in the
Speaker 1: World Series title and had a parade in the time
Speaker 1: that the Redskins we're having their sixteen consecutive quarters without
Speaker 1: a touchdown. By the way, the sixteen consecutive quarters without
Speaker 1: a touchdown is the longest streak of any team, longest
Speaker 1: streak of quarters with to touchdown since ready for this
Speaker 1: very strange stat since the two thousand Baltimore Ravens. Do
Speaker 1: you know what that team did? They won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So you're saying there's a chance, I'll say Detroit MICUs
Speaker 1: three on the road, uh three and a half, which
Speaker 1: I have no b for that. I'm gonna open three
Speaker 1: and a half. See where they want to go. Um
Speaker 1: by the way, you know, time for a media call.
Speaker 1: Upon my part, I liked Haskins coming out of college.
Speaker 1: I thought that he was much better than Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Boy was I wrong. So I know we don't have
Speaker 1: Arizona there on by this week, so I guess we
Speaker 1: won't talk about Kyler Murray until next week. I still
Speaker 1: have some serious questions. I bought him, uh you know,
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, he has proved to be way better than
Speaker 1: asking right now. And you know, part of this is coaching. Though.
Speaker 1: I really think you put this kid in the right environment,
Speaker 1: with the right coach and organization, in a solid team
Speaker 1: around him, and I think he would have a chance
Speaker 1: to become a good quarterback. But right now he has
Speaker 1: none of that. And uh, you know, I hate to
Speaker 1: see anybody's career just get wasted, and right now I'm
Speaker 1: afraid that's what we might be seen with this poor guy.
Speaker 1: You know. But nonetheless, I'm getting off track here. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open three and half. No beat for that number.
Speaker 1: And it gets fine. Jeff, you said you watched all
Speaker 1: of dayne Haskins yesterday, and your thoughts were, what he
Speaker 1: couldn't catch a snap, dropped four snaps yesterday. Well you
Speaker 1: know what that means. That just means he has twenty
Speaker 1: things on his mind. It's just the game is moving
Speaker 1: too quickly for him. I think it's as simple as that.
Speaker 1: It's not like the Jets defense is a vaunted defense.
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're okay, but they're not. They shouldn't
Speaker 1: be holding anyone to three points. I mean, Gil, they
Speaker 1: were handed to three points too is startled through through
Speaker 1: a screen past twenty yards too long on a on
Speaker 1: an interception that led to the first three. So that
Speaker 1: was a that was pretty ugly from your Washington Redskins
Speaker 1: Gill who who what fans channing sell the team again
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder yesterday. Let me just not bury the headline
Speaker 1: of what I just said in that whole Sannolysins. That's
Speaker 1: the longest streak of quarters without a touchdown, sixteen since
Speaker 1: the two thousand Baltimore Ravens who won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. We go back and think about remember how
Speaker 1: Trent Dilford, it was like one of these teams, one
Speaker 1: of the few teams in NFL history where they won
Speaker 1: a super Bowl in spite of their quarterback. And that
Speaker 1: was really the stretch of the season that defined dilfor Wow.
Speaker 1: Sixteen quarters in a row for the two thousand Ravens,
Speaker 1: just like these twenty nineteen Washington Redskins. That's amazing. Let's
Speaker 1: do one more here, Chris. Let's go to the afternoon
Speaker 1: well minute. That was one more lousy game than we
Speaker 1: finished strong. So okay, here's one more, one more lousy game.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville at Tennessee, the four and six Jaguars against the
Speaker 1: five and five Titans, who are both looking up at
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Xins in the FC South. Jacksonville
Speaker 1: now has lost four of six Nick foles less than
Speaker 1: triumphant return UH to the Jaguars yesterday again in their
Speaker 1: thirty three to thirteen lost the Colts. He was thirty
Speaker 1: three of forty seven for two nine six, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick. He was sacked twice. First appearance again since
Speaker 1: the broken left collar bone UH knocked him out of
Speaker 1: the season opener. Dj Chart continues to be his UH
Speaker 1: best receiver, biggest receiver, biggest target, eight for one oh
Speaker 1: four two touchdowns. I should say the Jaguars biggest receiving
Speaker 1: target this year. Again the theme of yesterday teams with
Speaker 1: amnemic rushing totals. The Jaguars had twenty nine rushing yards yesterday,
Speaker 1: twenty nine. And I get a lot of these teams
Speaker 1: fall behind. But to your point, Chris, you just never
Speaker 1: run again. Nine rushing yards, eight penalties, eighty one yards
Speaker 1: with the flags yesterday for the Jaguars Tennessee coming off
Speaker 1: of bye, I'll say Tennessee minus three in a hook
Speaker 1: here at home adds mostly three. I see three of
Speaker 1: some juice on the favorite. Um, you know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I don't like your number better. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: see let's say, like, okay, open three. What's the next number?
Speaker 1: Three and a half or two and a half? Well,
Speaker 1: there's no way this name is going to two and
Speaker 1: a half. I don't think, you know, but I think
Speaker 1: that has a chance of one to three and a half.
Speaker 1: But I am gonna open three. I'm hoping not to
Speaker 1: play that three three and a half game, the three
Speaker 1: two and a half game either way, But you know
Speaker 1: we'll get the Carson Wentz a little later. He actually
Speaker 1: has a pretty good game coming up. But I'm not
Speaker 1: sure Nick Poles would would would have been the answer either.
Speaker 1: In Philadelphia we had a great run the year they
Speaker 1: won that Super Bowl and had a great Super Bowl game.
Speaker 1: But really, he's just he's been a mediocre quarterback. And
Speaker 1: you know, God blessed me signed a monster contract and
Speaker 1: I hear he's a good guy, so good for him
Speaker 1: to get that. But I'm not sure he's gonna be
Speaker 1: any long term answer for any team. And uh, I
Speaker 1: think you know, I don't know. I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll prove me wrong, right, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: like the Tennessee quarterback situation either, But I do like
Speaker 1: Mike Brade. I think he's going to be a successful
Speaker 1: coach in this league. Um, he needs to get his
Speaker 1: players around him, and I'm not sure he has that
Speaker 1: right now. But I think he will be a good coach.
Speaker 1: But Tennessee three. But I can see this one going
Speaker 1: a little bit higher. Okay, I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: what I love yet. I'll have to review. Maybe I've
Speaker 1: forgotten one or two here. Um, you promised the games
Speaker 1: will get better, the matchups will get better. From a
Speaker 1: fan standpoint, they're all bettable. We'll get to those coming
Speaker 1: back Chris Andrews right here guessing lines Week twelve. It's
Speaker 1: a numbers game at Visa. Welcome back to a numbers
Speaker 1: game with Jill Alexander. National Football League Week twelve. That's
Speaker 1: what we're focused on here. Will tribute to the old
Speaker 1: stardust show of the same ilk with Roxy Rockborough back
Speaker 1: in the day. Chris Andrews is with us before his
Speaker 1: journey to Los Angeles. You're driving or you flying today? Chris? Well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to fly at be I can't be
Speaker 1: in your studio, right you know I saw that they
Speaker 1: won't let me go on an airplane with you know,
Speaker 1: hundred two hundred people know they can't do it. Makes
Speaker 1: sense now you're actually driving one behind the wheel, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know me? Yeah, sorry, there's a question of the
Speaker 1: day right there. What am I thinking? All right? What's
Speaker 1: the next one? You know how obsessive from the one
Speaker 1: doing the dry pam take over the wheel things. Chrissy
Speaker 1: has never said for five hundred alex All right, that's next. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's pretty good one. Gill Dallas at New England. There's
Speaker 1: a game Cowboys at New England. We mentioned Dallas beat
Speaker 1: the Allions. Yesterday by the score of thirty five to
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Lions hung around, but ultimately uh Dallas got
Speaker 1: it done. Dak Prescott was great yesterday. Forty picks for
Speaker 1: four forty four, three touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked once,
Speaker 1: a career high two hundred seventy four yards passing in
Speaker 1: the first half. His big targets Gallop nine for one,
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb for for one fifteen and the touchdown. Zeke
Speaker 1: uh did his thing. Sixteen carries for forty five yards,
Speaker 1: not a lot on the ground, but he did have
Speaker 1: a touchdown on the ground, but two catches twenty eight
Speaker 1: with another touchdown, so he scored twice eight of fourteen
Speaker 1: on third downs. Cowboys racked up five hundred and nine
Speaker 1: total yards of offense yesterday. And then there's New England
Speaker 1: with their nineteenth straight winning season, clinching their nine straight
Speaker 1: winning season. My goodness, the record is twenty Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: who can we say that we're seeing the first sign
Speaker 1: of age of Tom Brady this year? Maybe? Is that
Speaker 1: allowed Tom Brady? Yeah, forty seven for two, sixteen, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks. We sacked ones. Julian Edelman actually through their
Speaker 1: uh go ahead fifteen yard touchdown past the Philid door set.
Speaker 1: New England beats Philly seventeen to ten. They come from
Speaker 1: a ten to nothing deficit to win that game, first
Speaker 1: time in Brady's career that another player on his team
Speaker 1: had more touchdown passes than he did when he played
Speaker 1: the entire game. Patriots didn't cross midfield until Brady connected
Speaker 1: with Benjamin Watson for twenty two yards to the Eagles
Speaker 1: thirty one near the midpoint of the second quarter. The
Speaker 1: game really shifted when Lane Johnson went out of the
Speaker 1: game with an injury for the Eagles. That's when things
Speaker 1: changed again. It was ten to nothing Eagles. Final score
Speaker 1: Patriots seventeen, Eagles ten. I will say that the Patriots,
Speaker 1: I'll put it in no man's land. I'll say Patriots
Speaker 1: minus five and a half. I do see one five
Speaker 1: and a half. I see it as high as six
Speaker 1: and a half. Ag pick on my part, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like the six and a half here, Gil, and gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why. And I didn't have a chance to
Speaker 1: go through this when I was pointing together in my
Speaker 1: notes for this morning, I think, Dak Prescott, if we
Speaker 1: go back and look, and maybe maybe Jeff could throw
Speaker 1: something in here. But when he has played bad teams,
Speaker 1: he has done really really well bad defenses I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: This is not a bad defense he's going to get
Speaker 1: this week. This is a really good defense. And uh,
Speaker 1: they don't light up the scoreboard, light up the board
Speaker 1: with a bunch of those stats. Defensively, they just don't
Speaker 1: let you score. And I think Dallas is going to
Speaker 1: have a lot of trouble putting points on the board
Speaker 1: here against this New England team. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: New England, not always a great cover team, is a
Speaker 1: big favorite, and this kind of getting to that point there.
Speaker 1: But I think this is a team that will continue
Speaker 1: to get better as the year goes on. I do
Speaker 1: think we are seeing side of aging and Brady, no
Speaker 1: question about it. But I do think New England will
Speaker 1: probably they're probably just hitting their peak, which is kind
Speaker 1: of weird because as good as they've been, they played
Speaker 1: some lousy teams and even though their records fantastic, how
Speaker 1: I think they played particularly great football. But I do
Speaker 1: think they're going to start to play better a little
Speaker 1: a little bit more so down the stretch here. I
Speaker 1: liked them in this spot, and you know, when I
Speaker 1: was looking at my numbers earlier this morning, and like
Speaker 1: I said, they didn't have a chance to do quite
Speaker 1: the research I wanted to. But I think if when
Speaker 1: I do get off this show, I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: and look at and I think what I said is true.
Speaker 1: And this is one of the games I like. I
Speaker 1: like New England here. I think they handled Dallas pretty easily.
Speaker 1: Six and a half from you then, So that's what
Speaker 1: you're hanging today. Uh. I do this fantasy show Dave
Speaker 1: Farah and Matt Brown, who both are Visa guys, we
Speaker 1: do something for Access TV. It's a fantasy show that
Speaker 1: we do. And we had Jordan Palmer on the first
Speaker 1: week that we did it. Yesterday, Marcel Resa the Raiders
Speaker 1: formerly of the Raiders, was all he's retired out, great guy.
Speaker 1: He was talking about how when they would play Belichick,
Speaker 1: the few times they would play him, he got the
Speaker 1: Belichick treatment before the game. Odell Beckham Jr. Tells the
Speaker 1: same kinds of stories where Belichick would would mosey on
Speaker 1: up to Marcel and he would say, yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get too many a day, you know, and Marcel
Speaker 1: would be like, wait a minute, I'm averaging six or
Speaker 1: seven catches a day, a game, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: And sure enough he did. Know he goes, you probably
Speaker 1: get one catch and by the way, Darius Heyward Bay
Speaker 1: will get about thirteen and he's like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? He didn't catch anything? And sure enough, that's
Speaker 1: exactly what would happen. Because as Lombardi, Michael Lombardi or
Speaker 1: own Michael Lombardi likes to say, Belichick's playing chess. Everybody
Speaker 1: else's playing checkers. And you know, Zach Ertz had a
Speaker 1: pretty good game ister day. So maybe yesterday wasn't the
Speaker 1: best example. But the Eagles were shorthanded, right. They didn't
Speaker 1: have al Shan Jeffrey, Uh, they didn't have Shawn Jackson. God,
Speaker 1: they barely had the Shawn this year. They didn't have
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, so they were they were shorthanded. And so
Speaker 1: you know, Belichick figures it out right, even though the
Speaker 1: Eagles take the lead. You see Belichick, he puts the
Speaker 1: pen cap in his mouth, he jots down some notes.
Speaker 1: He's a genius, and uh, there's no reason to think
Speaker 1: that in a battle of wits with Jason Garrett. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest here, and Kellen Moore that Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: not gonna smoke. Um, I really believe that. You know,
Speaker 1: it gets down to that, if there's only one tool
Speaker 1: to your handicap in the NFL, let it be coaching.
Speaker 1: And that's a big coaching mismatch right there. So you're
Speaker 1: putting up six and a half, I guess five and
Speaker 1: a half on that. You're probably right, probably a better number.
Speaker 1: Let's do one more here we go. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: to say the Dallas coach went to Princeton, the New
Speaker 1: England coach went to I think John Carroll, the drawn
Speaker 1: Carroll got way smarters. Yes, it is particular realm is
Speaker 1: we're not at the primetime games yet. Are we have
Speaker 1: one more? Right? Uh? Oh? You know what? We do
Speaker 1: have a primetime game than a game got flipped to
Speaker 1: the morning would originally the Sunday night game got slipped
Speaker 1: to the morning. This is the one you were talking about, Jeff,
Speaker 1: What night game next? Yeah, what's the what's the morning game?
Speaker 1: Let's do that one we want to do in the
Speaker 1: morning game? First Seattle at Philadelphia. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: good game that gets flexed out right there. Good game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: told you we're going to finish strong. Here, yell, Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are good Seattle coming off the by their eight
Speaker 1: and two, um coming off the buyer to have an
Speaker 1: early game this week. Oh yeah, they're coming off the by.
Speaker 1: That's right. When we last saw them, they were playing
Speaker 1: Monday night against the Niners in that amazing win where
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan decided, no, we weeks, we don't accept your
Speaker 1: tie here, take this game from us in overtime with
Speaker 1: a three straight incompletions room Garoppolo, they're late, you know.
Speaker 1: T We mentioned Philly yesterday. Carson Wentz in defeat against
Speaker 1: the Patriots, twenty of forty two, one touchdown note picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked five times. Zach Ertz didn't get his
Speaker 1: his numbers nine four, but the Eagles were three of
Speaker 1: thirteen on third downs. They only had two fifty five
Speaker 1: total yards of offense. And as I said, no to
Speaker 1: Sean Jackson, no Al Sean Jeffrey, no Jordan Howard, they're
Speaker 1: all sidelined injuries. And again the key All Pro right
Speaker 1: tackle Lane Johnson, he left with a head injury in
Speaker 1: the first half when the Eagles were uptend to nothing.
Speaker 1: Game kind of flipped right there. I will guess the
Speaker 1: Eagles will be favored here, but not by the full
Speaker 1: field goal. I will say two and a half in
Speaker 1: favor of vehicles. Yeah, I see two and two and
Speaker 1: a half. Billy, I like to a little better it is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of splitting hairs here. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: my first impression is I think Carson Wentz is kind
Speaker 1: of regressed. And that might be true, but I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff around them that has made
Speaker 1: cause them to regress. You know, you mentioned Johnson the lineman.
Speaker 1: I don't think his receivers. His receivers have been terrible
Speaker 1: this year. And then you know, some of that falls
Speaker 1: on Wents because I think a lot of it falls
Speaker 1: on him. I think I saw somewhere, uh Miles Sanders,
Speaker 1: the running back, has the largest yards per reception of
Speaker 1: any player on that team, And that tells you right there, yeah,
Speaker 1: that there's just no speed on this team. Uh So,
Speaker 1: And I mentioned earlier, I think these missing Frank Wright,
Speaker 1: who was now the head coach at at Indianapolis, who
Speaker 1: was the quarterback coach when he got the most out
Speaker 1: of Carson Wentday and got a lot out of Nick
Speaker 1: Foles too. So I think all that is kind of
Speaker 1: playing against Carson Wentz right now, I wouldn't. I'm not
Speaker 1: giving up on the kid by any means, because I
Speaker 1: do think he has a lot of town, but around
Speaker 1: him not so much. Uh Conversely on Seattle, I mean,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson just makes this team a winner, and he's
Speaker 1: doing it for what like nine years an all or whatever.
Speaker 1: Uh So I like to a little better than two
Speaker 1: and a half. But you know again, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't have any beef with the numb led away here.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a really good game, and
Speaker 1: that is the ten o'clock game, ten o'clock early morning
Speaker 1: game Seattle at Philadelphia. Seattle did the old crossing the
Speaker 1: country for the early East Coast game. You're right, books
Speaker 1: Seattle with Russell Wilson. Once I David Clowne, he could
Speaker 1: do what he did against the Niners. Those two guys
Speaker 1: alone will erase a lot of the warts elsewhere on
Speaker 1: that team. So eight and two Seahawks, who are in
Speaker 1: playoff position against the Eagles five and five, who currently
Speaker 1: are the outside looking in in the n SEE East.
Speaker 1: We'll do the primetime games and then we'll recap what
Speaker 1: we like it's gonna be tough to come up with
Speaker 1: five out of these for contest. Welcome back to a
Speaker 1: numbers game with Jill Alexander. It is Gil Alexander, thank
Speaker 1: you wrong flatter flatter happy on the other green zone yesterday, Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: that was fun to talk about college football opening lines
Speaker 1: that Matt Lindeman and Matt medicalf put out. Uh, so
Speaker 1: we do that Dawn Sunday's nice of Greg Peterson asked
Speaker 1: me on their good job by Lindhiman and Metcalf. By
Speaker 1: the way, have really done a done a number here
Speaker 1: doing that? Uh, South Point of course originating lines on
Speaker 1: many things through the years, maybe not this year because
Speaker 1: Chrissy was was uh not well health wise, but generally speaking,
Speaker 1: so for those who say Vegas doesn't originate, there are
Speaker 1: exceptions to that rule. Let us bring in chrisy Andrew's
Speaker 1: back on the show. Chris is uh on his way
Speaker 1: to l A today, but kind enough to join us
Speaker 1: here before he hangs all these numbers for week twelve.
Speaker 1: They're not up on the board yet here behind me
Speaker 1: at the south Point, but he will write after this
Speaker 1: as we talked them through. Let's go to Sunday night, Chrissie, Yeah,
Speaker 1: an Oregon transplant will tend to for a little bit. Yes,
Speaker 1: I consider I'm feel much better anyway. The Sunday one
Speaker 1: Green Bay at San Francisco? What likes green Bay coming
Speaker 1: off of by green Bay eight and two San Francisco
Speaker 1: nine and one by virtue of their flurry Late yesterday
Speaker 1: against the Arizona Cardinals, Jimmy garoppolo yard touchdown past the
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson Jr. With thirty one seconds left, four touchout
Speaker 1: past of the game. Niners rally thirty six six win
Speaker 1: over the Cardinals. Why thirty six again from the top
Speaker 1: of the show, because San Francisco adding a fumble recovery
Speaker 1: for a touchdown by DJ read on the final play
Speaker 1: after a botched lateral by Arizona. No review. Would you
Speaker 1: like to say what you said on text had no
Speaker 1: extra point exactly, Yes, I Todd and I both thought
Speaker 1: the quote unquote Fatso offensive lineman was down when he
Speaker 1: threw nine miles into the air of the text second
Speaker 1: Fatso was down by contact, is what Jeff said on text.
Speaker 1: But they didn't review it. The touchdown counts, and then
Speaker 1: there's no extra point on top of that, So it
Speaker 1: had all kinds of implications both ways. But again it
Speaker 1: looks NFL gambling is legalized. You have to review everything
Speaker 1: just because the game is over and then just you
Speaker 1: have to do this now. Everything should be by the book. Um.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo thirty four or forty five yesterday for four,
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, two picks, sacked twice. The two interceptions, though,
Speaker 1: it should be stated, were deep in Arizona territory. That
Speaker 1: nearly did doom the Niners yesterday though on that last
Speaker 1: drive six of seven for fifty eight on the game
Speaker 1: winning drive. That right there is a microcosm of his season.
Speaker 1: Some games you're like, I don't know about this dude.
Speaker 1: Other games you're like, oh, yeah, he's the real deal.
Speaker 1: And then in this game there was all of that
Speaker 1: wrapped up in sixty minutes. Two touchdown passes by the
Speaker 1: way to back up tight end Ross Dwelly George Kittle
Speaker 1: didn't play. The Cardinals continue to be horrific against opposing
Speaker 1: tight ends. That's a fantasy note, everybody. Uh Deebo Samuel
Speaker 1: eight catches one thirty four for debot. They outgained Arizona
Speaker 1: four forty two to two sixty six in a game
Speaker 1: they trailed sixteen to nothing. And then in our theme
Speaker 1: of the day, how many rushing yards of the Niners have?
Speaker 1: Thirty four total rushing yards Again, chrissy, to your point,
Speaker 1: I get it, you're trailing, you're passing, but no runs
Speaker 1: thirty four ten penalties also for one seven for the
Speaker 1: Niners in victory. All that said, I'll just say that
Speaker 1: to me, this is the easiest line. This has to
Speaker 1: be three, right, Niners minus three exactly, That's what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, what else could it possibly be? Yeah, a
Speaker 1: couple of things. I do want to sly kind of funny,
Speaker 1: you know, when they the Niners scored that touchdown then
Speaker 1: no extra point, I tweeting at me, Vegas must have
Speaker 1: called that one in Vegas, guy. I gotta meet this
Speaker 1: Vegas guy one of these days. I've only been around
Speaker 1: for fourty years. I have to meet that guy Vegas
Speaker 1: called it. I love that Vegas must have called that one.
Speaker 1: They love the conspiracy theory. I mean, they just love it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, don't take responsibility for your own
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be bad hand. I
Speaker 1: mean it's not bad hand yet. It's just, you know,
Speaker 1: crazy stuff happens in sports. Uh, one more thing I
Speaker 1: do want to add. I like green Day in this game.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I'm starting to have my
Speaker 1: doubts about San Francisco and I think, you know, Jimmy
Speaker 1: g Yeah, ups and downs, no doubt about it. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of could say the same thing
Speaker 1: about Rodgers this year, is that some really good games,
Speaker 1: some really not so good games. But I do like
Speaker 1: green Day in this spot. Uh. You know, we talked
Speaker 1: about the home field advantage made. You know, it's probably
Speaker 1: been a little more press you know, two weeks ago
Speaker 1: it certain was, uh, but you know, and then you
Speaker 1: know Levi Stadium. I mean, is that a big homefield advantage?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not so sure. Yeah, if I think three,
Speaker 1: I think that's the number. But I also think it's
Speaker 1: a little steep. I think I'm gonna I like green
Speaker 1: Bay plus the three in this month. All right, Sunday
Speaker 1: night game? What's Monday night? Oh man? Right? Another pretty
Speaker 1: good one. Baltimore at the Rams. Oh, I like that matchup.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is eight and two. We talked about it. They
Speaker 1: not only beat the Houston Texans yesterday, they route them
Speaker 1: in what you know, looked at least on paper to
Speaker 1: be the game of the day. They go up thirty
Speaker 1: four to nothing. They went at forty one to seven.
Speaker 1: Do the Ravens. It's their sixth straight win from two
Speaker 1: and two to eight, two longest winning streaks since the
Speaker 1: seven game run back in two thousand, their first Super
Speaker 1: Bowl winning season. There's two two thousand Ravens. Reference this
Speaker 1: one to the bad one, to the good Lamo R. Jackson,
Speaker 1: we do it every week. Seventeen of twenty four for
Speaker 1: two twenty two, four touchdown passes, no picks, sacked only
Speaker 1: once on the ground, nine carries for eighty six yards.
Speaker 1: For the season, nineteen touchdown passes, five picks, and seven
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight yards rushing. By the way, Robert
Speaker 1: Griffin the third two for two for fifteen yards. I
Speaker 1: just want to point that out. But never forget Chrissie,
Speaker 1: Never forget now every time I look at your Twitter page,
Speaker 1: to have that up in the background. Gus Edwards eight
Speaker 1: carries a hundred twelve yards and touchdown. Ravens were five
Speaker 1: of nine on third downs. Can we flash up that
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson tweet? This is a This is um a
Speaker 1: tweet sent out which is about Lamar Jackson, but also
Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson and Dak Prescott. It's from Dane Burgler, uh,
Speaker 1: Dane Burglar, Dane Burglar, Opening Browns, Okay, Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. That's the top three in the m v
Speaker 1: P race for many right now, in whatever order you want.
Speaker 1: He points out, none of the three were the first
Speaker 1: player drafted by their own team in their class. A
Speaker 1: combined sixteen quarterbacks. Sixteen quarterbacks were drafted ahead of them.
Speaker 1: Five now out of the NFL. And as I would
Speaker 1: like to add to this tweet, if I could only
Speaker 1: put my finger on something else that puts these three
Speaker 1: guys in common common thread with them. Yeah yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean, who were the guys that looked at Lamar Jackson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't play in the NFL. I mean, Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: I honestly do understand. I mean the guy was small.
Speaker 1: You know, since then, the game has kind of change
Speaker 1: and he's listen, I sing his praises all the time.
Speaker 1: He's great. I kind of see where they had their
Speaker 1: doubts about it. But Lamar Jackson, what would be the
Speaker 1: last player picked in the first round? Ye and Donalds
Speaker 1: and the Roses of the world picked before me. It's
Speaker 1: less about looking at it from those guys and from
Speaker 1: the Jackson, Prescott and Wilson, because you're right, everybody had
Speaker 1: common doubts, right, there were there were knocks on all
Speaker 1: of them. But if you look at it the other way,
Speaker 1: I think that's to me where the smoking gun is
Speaker 1: the canonization, right, the canonizing of those other guys, like
Speaker 1: they were all we've got to get this interception machine,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, for God's sakes, We've got to draft him, right,
Speaker 1: and then you know, as soon as he has a
Speaker 1: bad a good game in the pros. Ah, this is
Speaker 1: why we drafted him. Josh Rosen right, for all of
Speaker 1: his does even want to play football? The fact that
Speaker 1: these teams go crazy. Listen. I said it on my podcast. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's sort of the third rail, but it's sort
Speaker 1: of it's like if DeShawn Jackson, and I'll say this
Speaker 1: on on this show, what I said on the megapod.
Speaker 1: If DeShawn Jackson, let's just say, was a white quarterback
Speaker 1: who won the national championship in front of everybody at Clemson,
Speaker 1: beating the vaunted Alabama defense. Okay, that's one thing but
Speaker 1: you think if there was an African American quarterback who
Speaker 1: had only thirteen starts at North Carolina, Uh, that some
Speaker 1: other team would have moved the world, moved to mountains
Speaker 1: to draft of number two. Everybody stopped with that. That's
Speaker 1: the smoking gun to me. So anyway, Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about you. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: to political ratio or anything, but I was laughing that
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about it last night. And so, yeah,
Speaker 1: the three best quarterbacks are all black and the best
Speaker 1: rodding back is white. Yeah, so GrITT McCaffrey, So, uh,
Speaker 1: let's get judge each guy for what he is. You know. Rams,
Speaker 1: By the way, in this game, they've won ten coin
Speaker 1: tosses in a row. How's that for stat for you, Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: the Rams have one ten coin tosses in a row.
Speaker 1: Here's your meaningless statum the night Jared Goff eleven of
Speaker 1: eighteen for one seventy three, no touchdowns, one pick, uh,
Speaker 1: not sacked at all. Career lows for Jared Goff in
Speaker 1: completions and attempts eleven and eighteen Todd Gurley yesterday. And
Speaker 1: this was the story of this game last night between
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Bears, Rams winning it again seventeen
Speaker 1: to seven, and Chris Collinsworth did a great pointing this
Speaker 1: out yesterday. UM twenty five carries for Girly nineties seven
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, also caught three balls for thirty
Speaker 1: six hundred thirty three scrimmage yards for Girly. He was
Speaker 1: told by Sean McVeigh before the game last night he
Speaker 1: was going to be a focal point of their offense,
Speaker 1: and in fact that's exactly what the Rams did. They
Speaker 1: ran it on sixty five point four percent of its
Speaker 1: plays yesterday, thirty four or fifty two plays, the highest
Speaker 1: run percentage in mcveigh's three seasons as coach, and only
Speaker 1: the fourth time they've gone to the ground more than
Speaker 1: sixty of the time. A Todd Gurley sighting in a
Speaker 1: big way yesterday, David Edwards Bobby Evans on the right
Speaker 1: side of that line, as crick Chris Kollandsworth pointed out
Speaker 1: many times in that game yesterday, they could be a
Speaker 1: big revelation for the Rams. Girly came in averaging fifty
Speaker 1: three point five rushing yards per game, had sixty three
Speaker 1: and the first half alone. All that said, this is
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, the dynamo that he is. I'll say it's
Speaker 1: Baltimore minus three and a half on the road extree
Speaker 1: and a half. I see someone three and a half
Speaker 1: with juice on the dog. You know, I like three
Speaker 1: and a half flat here. Um, And I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised to this one goes up a little bit. One
Speaker 1: of the themes of the day for me is talking
Speaker 1: about offensive lines, and uh, the Ram's offensive lines. They
Speaker 1: ran the ball extremely well. Goff was not sacked last night.
Speaker 1: All that being said, they only put seventeen points on
Speaker 1: the board. Um. I think that says a lot. Actually, UM,
Speaker 1: I certainly have my questions about this team. Well, there's
Speaker 1: another one where the some of the parts should be,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole should be at least up to
Speaker 1: the sum of the parts, and it's not. And what
Speaker 1: the problem is, I honestly can't tell you. But Baltimore
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. I've been singing the praises of John
Speaker 1: Harboss deal, what have we done the show? Eight nine
Speaker 1: years whatever? I've been saying that for all these years.
Speaker 1: I think he's a ter afic coach. And I hate
Speaker 1: saying that because Baltimore is in the division with the Steelers,
Speaker 1: that's our big rival, but he is just terrific. And
Speaker 1: what he's done with Jackson, I think speaks volumes of that.
Speaker 1: I like three and a half, but if this goes higher,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, and I'm not sure that's not
Speaker 1: the right side. So three and a half is what
Speaker 1: it is. But I'm not saying I like Baltimore hate
Speaker 1: length three and a half on the road in a
Speaker 1: situation like this, but a gun to my head, I
Speaker 1: probably land. It's very difficult to get to bet against
Speaker 1: Baltimore period at this point with Lamar Jackson, Like that's
Speaker 1: how good he is at this at this juncture in
Speaker 1: his career. Just uh, you know, in his second year,
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter posted something on his Twitter feed which compared
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's numbers, which are M VB caliber of course,
Speaker 1: last sixteen games, so extends back in the last season
Speaker 1: with Tyrod Taylor's season a couple of years ago when
Speaker 1: he went sixteen games and he was saying how comparable
Speaker 1: it was, but the one and it really did. By
Speaker 1: the numbers in terms of the passing numbers was very comparable,
Speaker 1: and it was sort of a really more of a
Speaker 1: statement towards Tyrod Taylor and perhaps he should be getting
Speaker 1: uh some play in Los Angeles more than it was
Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson. But of course when it left out
Speaker 1: was all of Lamar Jackson's amazing rushing stats, which just
Speaker 1: puts him way over the top in a different stratosphere.
Speaker 1: I don't I think I like Baltimore at at that number.
Speaker 1: So it is minus three and a half for you?
Speaker 1: Is that what you said? You're putting up stree and
Speaker 1: a half? Yeah, and I think some three and a half,
Speaker 1: you know, even money on the favorite or even one
Speaker 1: outfit plus money on the favorite time, I don't. I
Speaker 1: think that's in error. Let me say that all right, Arizona, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Casey and the Chargers after to night's game, they will
Speaker 1: be on by of course again case five point favorites
Speaker 1: tonight or four and a half somewhere in that pocket
Speaker 1: right now, that is up tonight's game in Mexico City.
Speaker 1: We'll come back, we'll review what we like. Week twelve,
Speaker 1: coming back with Chrissy right here on a Numbers game
Speaker 1: at Visa. Welcome back to a Numbers game with Jill Alexander. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So going through the boy. I hate the sounds. Uh really,
Speaker 1: I don't know if chunky's the right word, but just
Speaker 1: to go with like the best teams in the league.
Speaker 1: But the games that I really like. Baltimore I think
Speaker 1: on Monday night giving just three and a half against
Speaker 1: the Rams, like we talked about, Chrissy, I mean, as
Speaker 1: bad as the Bears were, I don't think the Rams
Speaker 1: were that much better, even though they did shift to
Speaker 1: a run first offense as we documented. What do you
Speaker 1: do against Lamar Jackson? Aaron Donald up against Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 1: What a matchup? But I like that. I like Baltimore.
Speaker 1: They're giving the three and a half um and I
Speaker 1: like New England. I think if it's only what did
Speaker 1: you say, it was six and a half. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use six and a half. And here are
Speaker 1: some sixes. Let me see if they'd still around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some sixes. Are there's a couple of sixes around.
Speaker 1: Matt Mannie did have to jump in pretty quick, by
Speaker 1: the way. A text from Chris Felika, friend of show,
Speaker 1: friend of Network of the Bear at ESPN's College Game
Speaker 1: Day Daily Wager, and of course the Stanford Stephen the
Speaker 1: bear podcast. He asks, if Chrissy likes uh your number
Speaker 1: so much, why doesn't he gets that it would be
Speaker 1: off market? Why doesn't he sometimes just post that number?
Speaker 1: Then that's a good question. Um, we we do have
Speaker 1: some big player at south Point, and what I'd like
Speaker 1: to see is the market and let's see what happens
Speaker 1: with it. And we certainly have our opinions, you know,
Speaker 1: probably more so than I should, But I also don't
Speaker 1: want to make them bet something this early in the week.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, let's see where it goes, because ideally
Speaker 1: you want the best, you want the most action at
Speaker 1: the most advantageous number to the sports book, in other words,
Speaker 1: of everybody. Let's say you made a game six and
Speaker 1: it's seven everywhere, Well you want to open six. You
Speaker 1: can open six and a half and get the same
Speaker 1: amount of bets, you know what I'm saying. So why
Speaker 1: wouln't you just open six and a half. And you know,
Speaker 1: and like I said, you're still taking a stand having
Speaker 1: an opinion that are in a more pageous position. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're both an you're both an odds maker and
Speaker 1: a bookmaker, and so you have to consider all things. Yes, alright,
Speaker 1: So Baltimore the way, um I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: do have one uh and themment to my opening numbers,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh now was going to mostly seven seven with some
Speaker 1: juice on the dog. I'm an open seven instead of
Speaker 1: six and a half. I like the seven better. Wow,
Speaker 1: SEEZ Yeah, I'm not. Let's put it this way. Even
Speaker 1: as I say, wow, it's not like I'm I'm running running,
Speaker 1: I have a one leg. It's not like I'm hopping
Speaker 1: over to the book to bet Bengals, that's for sure,
Speaker 1: even hearing that information. So I Baltimore gonna get trampled
Speaker 1: by Bengals better rushing to the counter. And that would
Speaker 1: be a horrible way to die, wouldn't it. There goes
Speaker 1: Gil trampled by Bengals, betters Baltimore, New England. And I
Speaker 1: guess I look, I know it didn't get there yesterday,
Speaker 1: but they did the five weeks before that. I think
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. If you're telling me that's ten and
Speaker 1: a hook? Did you say with Cleveland? I guess Miami,
Speaker 1: though that's not never fun. But those are my three anyway,
Speaker 1: off the off the top, how about you? I got
Speaker 1: my three. I like the Bills. I think they crushed
Speaker 1: the Broncos. I like New England again, boy, chalk, chalk chalk.
Speaker 1: I like New England over Dallas, and I like green
Speaker 1: Bay plus the three over Sanrancisco. You are not buying
Speaker 1: the Niners, not in this spot. Not in this spot.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I three has to be the number.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I'm not sure they deserve to
Speaker 1: be a pool three over Green Bay. What's your biggest
Speaker 1: Do you have big liability on any team in the NFL? Christopher,
Speaker 1: for either conference or Super Bowl? Mm hmm, all right,
Speaker 1: and it's not huge, but New Orleans to win the NFC.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not it's not terrible, it's not particularly good. Um,
Speaker 1: you know Cleveland, I guess you know. Uh, i'muth s
Speaker 1: went that one two months. I'll probably win their last
Speaker 1: six in a row or whatever and get there. Um,
Speaker 1: you're Buffalo a little bit for the conference. I'm a
Speaker 1: little worried about that because, like I said, they neat
Speaker 1: some bad teams. There's a lot of bad beans in
Speaker 1: this Weekue. Um, you know two of them in their division. Um,
Speaker 1: so those are probably two that jump out at me
Speaker 1: right away. I have to look a little more close,
Speaker 1: but nothing that I'm really sweating all that much. And
Speaker 1: let me just ask you, if you have we'll do
Speaker 1: this around the horn. Youre going to close it, Jeff,
Speaker 1: if you had to give me a Super Bowl right now,
Speaker 1: who do you think is in the Super Bowl? Todd
Speaker 1: and I were actually discussing this yesterday. But if you're going,
Speaker 1: if you're going right now, I would go with New England.
Speaker 1: Still in the a f C, I think in a
Speaker 1: rematch with Baltimore they would get it done. And then
Speaker 1: in the NFC it's really difficult, but I'd lean New Orleans.
Speaker 1: I still I think that game against Atlanta last week
Speaker 1: was an aberration. They're more like the team we saw
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. And with this past
Speaker 1: week against Tampa, so New England, New Orleans, Who would
Speaker 1: you want to see? Who would I want to see?
Speaker 1: Not New England. I know that I would love to
Speaker 1: see Baltimore like Seattle, and that's exactly who I'd want
Speaker 1: to see. Baltimore versus Seattle. I would love to see that.
Speaker 1: As it is now, I think Baltimore New Orleans sounds
Speaker 1: about right. I actually I have a feeling that you know,
Speaker 1: all this thought that we have that. Oh, New England
Speaker 1: will figure it out the second time around night. I
Speaker 1: know it will go different against Baltimore for sure, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes one person's uh, just sheer will
Speaker 1: and and athleticism and talent could take them over the top. Obviously,
Speaker 1: a long way to go between now and then. Chris,
Speaker 1: we can we close with you, same thing? Who do
Speaker 1: you think? Who would you want to see? Who would
Speaker 1: I think? I think it's gonna be Baltimore New Orleans
Speaker 1: if I had to pick right now. I think that's
Speaker 1: the two best teams. Crazy things happen, of course. Who
Speaker 1: would I want to see? Well, I don't know Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and maybe you know Tampa Bay something like that. I'd
Speaker 1: like to see the Redskins sets, right, I'd like to
Speaker 1: see a Redskins Jets remit. Yeah, we have the Redskins
Speaker 1: Jets rematch happened. Thank you, Chrissie appreciated. Safe travels to
Speaker 1: l A to my friend, all right, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you doctor. Follow Chris on Twitter at Andrew Sports again
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