1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. If you're watching on Peacock, you'll notice that 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: we had the bagpipes here again, New Haven County Emerald 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Society pipes and drums. So my thanks for those guys 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: obviously stopped by every Saint Patrick's day. I still go 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: back to that time when mclove and I made mclove 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and mcleven wanted to know what were what was under 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: the kilts, and I said there's only one way to 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: find out, mclovin, So I made mcloven lie down on 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the floor at the Old Man Cave and all the 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: bagpipers came by and they stepped over mcloven and mclovan 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: realized that there was low hanging fruit. Yes, mc So 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: what of the guys said Hi to me? And I 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: kind of like didn't recognize him. He's like, oh, maybe 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: if I lifted my killing you would recognize me. All right, Paul, 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: you had this question here the QB Quiz, how many 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: NFL teams have quarterbacks on their roster that have combined 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: combined for a Super Bowl MVP and four Pro Bowl appearances. 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: The come bind word. It leads me to believe Nick 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Foles and Andy Dalton your Chicago Bears. Yeah, there are 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: three total teams Chicago Bears or one of them with 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Nick Foles. One Pro Bowl for Nick Foles, one Super Bowl, MVP, 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: three Pro Bowls Randy Dalton should have been four according mcloven, 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady correct, Uh, Aaron Rodgers Junior the third. Correct, 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: that's it all. Ben was not. That's right. He didn't 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: with the MVP. Was you had no idea at the 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: time you should have won the MVP. Combined that the 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: Bears are set at the quarterback position, Yes they are. 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Nick Foles made a Pro Bowl. I don't remember that 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: at all. The year with the passing offense. Chip Kelly, Yeah, 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: but Chip Kelly, yeah, I know, but he kind of 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: came on late. He had all his touchdowns in one 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: game in that year. That's not true. He had like 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: nine against the Raiders, remember that game. That was a 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: foe season for the season. Tom Waddle, former Bears wide receiver, 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: co host of Waddle and Sylvie on ESPN one thousand 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: in Chicago and Tom joins us. Now, how is morale 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: in Chicago? Tom? Very low? It sucks like we were 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: on the air, Dan, I was thinking it was four 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: o'clock Central time. When the news came, I laughed. I 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: mean I think it was a full belly laughing, and 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: it was one of those kind of nervous but hey, 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: I expected this f and decision to happen. But yeah, 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: we got it. We had two hours of people as 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: hot as the day is long, that just they could 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: I can't understand it myself, so I understood why why 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: they were upset. All right. Take me back to when 48 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Russell's agent, through Adam Schefter, says, here's the four teams 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: if Seattle happens to trade us. What was that day 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: like in Chicago when you realize you were on the 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: wish list? Well, my first my first response was why 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: why are we on that list? Like? Whatever whatever Russ 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: is upset with in Seattle, there's not enough around him. 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: They'll protect him well enough. Whatever the complaint was. It 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: was like Russ, I didn't gonna any better here in Chicago. 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: Have you watched Bears football lately? But no, I mean 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: there was an enormous sugar high for sure that I 58 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: don't know if you know this, Dan, but we're kind 59 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: of in a quarterback drought here in Chicago. It's lasted 60 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: several decades. But when Russell Wilson, one of the top 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: five quarterbacks in the league over the last decade, puts 62 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: you on his wish list, like this city didn't know 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: how to respond. Like, I'm a realist in a lot 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: of ways, kind of shaped by my childhood and my 65 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: inability to run fast or do anything athletic, So I 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: kind of had a pretty low expectation level for things. 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: But even I was kind of intrigued and hopeful. Thought 68 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: it was a long shot. But when Russ puts us 69 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: on his list, I think everyone in this town had 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: the thought that finally are wanted and needed franchise quarterback 71 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: was about to be delivered to us. But is there 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: a part of you that wishes that he didn't put 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Chicago on that list to raise expectations and then to 74 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: be cut off at the knees. Yeah, I think you 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: could make that statement look. Like I said, my childhood 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: was was was really kind of affected. When I think 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: it was like seven or eight years old. I grew 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: up in Cincinnati and all I wanted for Christmas one 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: year it was an Archie Griffin Jersey. I think I 80 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: got a superte and super toes are cool, but I 81 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: wanted an Archie Griffin jersey, and honestly, from that point forward, 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: I think I kind of just I've been a person 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: that set the bar at a very reasonable level, and 84 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: when Russ puts us on the list, it was like 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: going back to that Christmas morning, thinking I'm getting an 86 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: Archie Griffin jersey and I get a super toe like 87 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: no offense. Dany Dalton. He's had a nice career. He's 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: been to the postseason five times, he's had three trips 89 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: to the Super Toe, but Super Pro Bowl. But that's 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: a super Toe, so um, look, yeah, I think you 91 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: can make the case that that it raised expectation levels 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: to a lofty spot. That really a lot of ways, 93 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, we probably if we looked at it a 94 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: little closer, weren't weren't reasonable. I don't know though, kind 95 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: of if I circle back, like every now and again, 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: it's fun to dream, especially where we've been with the 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: quarterback position. So now I'm going to reverse my answer 98 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 1: and say, no, I'm glad he put us on his list. 99 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: Would you rather have Mitchell Trubisky or Andy Dalton At 100 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: this point, I'd rather have Andy Dalton, And look, my 101 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: rationale is that the coach lost complete confidence in the 102 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: quarterback a while ago. I don't even know if Matt 103 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: ever had confidence in Mitch. Mitch was drafted in two 104 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: thou seventeen, and we're not gonna relitigate what Ryan Pace 105 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: did wrong there. It's quite obvious. But I thought that 106 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: that Matt never showed that he truly trusted Mitch. I 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: think he felt Mitch fit his system, and I think 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: that was on full display, especially at the end of 109 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: last year. Nick Foles gets hurt, Mitch comes back. They 110 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: totally tailored the offense to to Mitch's strengths, the kind 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: of scale things back to cut the field in half, 112 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: and it's what Matt should have done. I mean, I 113 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: think Matt deserves some of the criticism for Mitch's lack 114 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: of consistent performance, but ultimately he's a professional quarterback and 115 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: quite frankly, I just don't think he was good enough. 116 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: But the moral of the story really for me, is 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: is that if you watch how plays were called against 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: the Saints in the postseason and the Green Bay Packers 119 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: in the final game of the season, like we could 120 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: sit around and talk about how that offense was clicking 121 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: and scoring forty against the bad Texans defense or of 122 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: bad Jags defense. But the truth is is when you 123 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: step up in class and you've modified your offense and 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: you don't trust your quarterback to do anything, you're not 125 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: going to beat the better team. So like Matt lost 126 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: faith in Mitch, and once that happens, you got to 127 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 1: move on. And I think the Rams are the best 128 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: example of that. Sean mcvayh lost faith and Jared Goff 129 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: as their quarterback. And what did Sean mcvayh do. He decided, Look, 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: we appreciate your participation in the effort, all that you 131 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: did for us, but this isn't gonna work. And he 132 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: traded from Matthew Stafford. So that, to me is kind 133 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: of the best example that that kind of defines my 134 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: point for this. So you know, Mitchell be in the 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: league for a decade, great kid, hard worker, teammates, liking 136 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: struggles in my mind, to play the position from the pocket, 137 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: and like, I just think Matt couldn't co exist with 138 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: him any longer, not because he didn't like him as 139 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: a kid, but because he didn't trust him. Are the 140 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: bears out of the quarterback market? I think what I 141 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: was told by this signing basically was is they swung 142 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: a miss with Russ, they try to complete the hell 143 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: Mary it was incomplete. I think they're gonna try to 144 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: move up in the first round and grab one of 145 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: these guys. They were North Dakota looking at Trey Lance. 146 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: I think they'll try to find a way to get 147 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks and then kind of reset the 148 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: clock for both Ryan Pace and Matt running this program 149 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: here in Chicago. Look, I think Ryan Paces is it's 150 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: in his DNA to to think big. So does it 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: mean he's still not going to try to make a 152 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: trade for someone. Probably not, But at this point, like 153 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: I was an advocate, if you can't get Russ and 154 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: you can't get Watson, and Watson really was never an option, 155 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: and Russ, I thought was a long shot. My advice 156 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: to them, had they called me, which they don't, would 157 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: have been to just do nothing. You've got Andy Dalton 158 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: on your roster. It's Nick Foles like, it's a bridge 159 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: to nowhere, it's a bridge to mediocrity, it's a bridge 160 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: to eight and eight. So why not save the ten 161 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: million dollars and try to fill some holes in other 162 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: areas and try to fix your team in different ways. 163 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: Keep your powder dry and keep your draft picks. That's 164 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: what I would have advised them to do. So I 165 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: thought it was really an unnecessary decision to sign Andy, 166 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't rule out Ryan still going to the 167 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: plate and trying to swing and hit the ball out. 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: Keep your head up, Okay, I can't. Why not? I mean, listen, 169 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: this is living in this town. There's teams in my blood. 170 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: Like you've got your jersey, it's got your face on it. 171 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: I got a jersey that still despite what they've done 172 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. Mindset, Chicago Bears, they're in my heart. 173 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: They're in my blood, Dan, And when when you can't 174 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: get the quarterback position right over the course of ninety years, 175 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: it stings. Could you ever see Jim Harball coaching the 176 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Bears if there was a coaching change. I like, that's 177 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: a really tough question for me to answer, to be 178 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: honest with you, because I have such a great feeling 179 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: in my body for Jim and who he was. Like, 180 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: there aren't many guys in the league back in the 181 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: early nineties and late eighties that would have trusted me 182 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: and thrown the ball to me. And Jim did, and 183 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: he was such a great competitor on the field, and 184 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: I loved him as in the way he approached the 185 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: game with that set, like in his NFL resumes great 186 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: if you go back and look what he did in 187 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco. But like, what has strugg what have they 188 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: struggled with in Michigan to find the quarterback? What I mean, like, 189 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: what are we doing here in Chicago? We're trying to 190 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: find a quarterback? Like forget, I brought forget. I brought 191 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: it up, forget. Yeah, I mean like, my bad makes 192 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: me feel bad, Like I mean, keep kicking me, Dan, 193 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: my bad, my bad. Hey, spring training White Sox is 194 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna be good this year. Yeah. And actually they're on 195 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: our on our station, the ESPN. Yeah, it's it's gonna 196 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Yeah, so I got that 197 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: to look forward to. Yeah, I'd start drinking early on St. 198 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Patty's Day. Oh damn, it's engine y. I might have 199 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: one as soon as we're done. Thank you, Bud, good 200 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: to talk to you. Tell Sylvie we said hello, I 201 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: will Thanks Dan. That's Tom Wattle, PAULI. If you want 202 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: to start drinking today, you can start early if you want. 203 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: Never had one during the show before Yeah, if you 204 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: want to Yeah. This program brought to you by Mercedes 205 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Benz Vans. They go far beyond from their customization options, 206 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: cutting edge tech to their five stars sales service and 207 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: financial support crew. Mercedes Benz Vans built to equipped engineer 208 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: to be ready for anything. So go the extra mile, 209 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: take the all important first step into an authorized dealership. Today. 210 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: Did we a lot of poll question MC club? We 211 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: did not. I was gonna ask Paulie something like, is 212 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: this a good day for Bears fans? But it's so 213 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: obviously no, So how do you gauge how bad a 214 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 1: day it was? Wait? Wait, so you were going to 215 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: ask if is this a good day? Normally when a 216 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: quarterback signed somewhere, a veteran quarterback, we say are you 217 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: happy about the signing? Way, if you ask Washington Football 218 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: team fans, hey, good day. You got Ryan Fitzpatrick. At 219 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: least you get a moderate or no comment. The Bears 220 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: are one hundred percent. This is the worst day that 221 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: ever happened to us. I don't think any I didn't 222 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: see anybody in Washington complaining about Ryan Fitzpatrick. Well, look 223 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: at what they've had. I mean, Alex Smith coming back 224 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: at age thirty six, they had Dwayne Haskins. They somehow 225 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: find Taylor Heineke, right, I mean Chicago is the same way. 226 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: But you're right. They had no expectation. It was a 227 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: stupid expectation of Rush Wilson. They killed everything. Yeah, well, yeah, 228 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I understand that. Here's one thing that you know, nobody has. Fact. 229 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: There's two things that people refuse to factor in with 230 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. First of all, if he goes to a 231 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: new team, he's gonna want to be paid, and he's 232 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna want to be paid, probably just under Patrick Mahomes. 233 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose draft picks, maybe a player too, a 234 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: starter or two, and I'm gonna lose room on my 235 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: salary cap. Here's the other part that nobody is talking about. 236 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson hasn't demanded a trade Deshaun Watson has. Russell 237 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: just said I want action, I want to have input, 238 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: and I want something to happen. If this doesn't happen, 239 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: and look, you want to trade me, then these are 240 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: the four teams Deshaun Watson is demanding in trade. These 241 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: are two different scenarios here. Until Russ says I want 242 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: to be traded like then it starts to heat up 243 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. Russ basically said, look, you guys don't 244 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: want to you know, let me have input here. You 245 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: want to trade me, then here are the four teams. 246 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: But I still want to stay. If he says, look, 247 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to stay now, it's different and he's 248 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to expand you know, the wish list. But 249 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: he hasn't demanded a trade yet, and Seattle hasn't done 250 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: anything in free agency yet. Those are the two things 251 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for. Is Seattle going to do something? And 252 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: if they don't, does Russell Wilson demand a trade? Yes? 253 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I think people are grossly overreacting to the Bears and 254 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I think this could actually be a great 255 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: day for the Bears because they don't have to give 256 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: up all of this draft capital, pay all this money 257 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: and get a Hall of Fame quarterback. Well yeah, I 258 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: mean it's weird. It's still you're getting a Hall of 259 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Fame quarterback. But he's also, at the same time the 260 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: same quarterback who in like year ten of his career. 261 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: The storyline has still let Russ cook. When will Pete 262 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: Carroll allow to throw the ball, you know what I mean, Like, 263 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: he's he's ten years into his career and his head coach, 264 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: who's been there the entire time, still won't let him throw. 265 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: And that's the guy who's gonna save the Bears. I mean, 266 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: I love Russell Wilson, he's awesome, he's great, But let's 267 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: not act like, yeah, he was gonna be the guy 268 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: that was going to fix everything. There Seaton O'Connor against 269 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: the grain. Yes, absolutely, It's like they're letting him cook 270 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: on an easy bake oven. You know, it's not really 271 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: a real meal. I mean that was just last year, 272 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: wasn't it. Like, Hey, when when is they gonna let 273 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: him throw the ball? Huh? Yeah, ten years he's been 274 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: doing that. First half of the season. Let let Russ cook. 275 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: He was cooking. Then all of a sudden they turned 276 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: off the burners. There Rush didn't know it. He was 277 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: still cooking. It just there was no heat underneath the skillet. Yes, point, 278 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: if you go back with the Bears, the Dalton you know, 279 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's made three Pro Bowls. He's been a good, 280 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: above average quarterback in the league. But that was a 281 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: few years ago. In two thousand and eight, the Bears 282 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: got Jay Cutler of Denver. Cutler was twenty five years old. 283 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: He's coming off his first Pro Bowl season. That was 284 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: insanity for the Bears. That's what you know in apples 285 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: and orders to Russell Wilson when you look at Cutler 286 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: now you don't think that, but if you remember, we 287 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: were on the air that day when Russell went the 288 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Bears a day Jay Cutler and Bears fans were out 289 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: of their mind. We don't get young, great quarterbacks and 290 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: it didn't really work out. You gave up a lot 291 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: too to get him. All right, Well, take a break. 292 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: We got our play of the day coming up next 293 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: year on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to 294 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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If I 313 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: would have told you when you were in Greece that 314 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: you were going to eventually come back to the States 315 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: and take a team to the NC Double A Tournament, 316 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: what would you have told me it would be possible? 317 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: I just probably wouldn't ever have figured out it was 318 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna be iona. But I was really really happy in 319 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: Greece and things are going well, so I wasn't really 320 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: thinking about going there until the president and the athletic 321 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: director flew to Madrid. How do you explain what has happened? 322 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: Let's say in the last three years, if somebody didn't 323 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: know just the cliff notes version, how would you explain 324 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: your life in the last three years of what has 325 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: happened and where you know, how you got to where 326 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: you are today. Well, you know, there's so many great 327 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: things that happened in a span of forty years of coaching. 328 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: But it is a roller coaster, and my roller coaster 329 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: went extremely high. It would be like the cyclone at 330 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: the old Coney Island and it's extremely high, and then 331 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: it got extremely low. But I think if you pick 332 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: yourself up, and not not that I didn't do that, 333 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: but for about a year and a half, I was 334 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: extremely bitter at certain people. And now I'm not bitter 335 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: at anyone. So it's you move on, you pick yourself up, 336 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: and you try to make something, specially where you're at. 337 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: How do you get rid of the bitterness? I get 338 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: rid of it. I stopped pointing things, Stop stop blaming 339 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: people that weren't louisvile. People on the board of trustees. 340 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I was blaming disloyal assistance. How could they ever do 341 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: such a thing? And then in the end I just 342 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: took responsibility by looking in the mirror and said, hey, 343 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: you hired those people, it's your fault. And then the 344 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: bitterness stood the other people and said that's I finally 345 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: kid to the conclusion and said, if this happened and 346 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: I was on the board of trustees, I'd fire myself 347 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: as well. So you just get down to reality and 348 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: you speak to truth. There's the only way you get 349 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: better is to own up and not make excuses. And 350 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: I just finally owned up. It took me way too long. 351 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: I wish it would have happened sooner. How low did 352 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: you get? Um? You know, I had an awesome job 353 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: for seventeen years and we had a role in three 354 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Final four as a championships, and so when all that's 355 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: taken away from you, when you're in Greased by yourself, 356 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: you get pretty low. But the second year in Grease 357 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: was so spectacular. That's when the bitterness dissipated and I 358 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: just had the most wonderful time. Learned so much basketball 359 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: that I didn't though in terms of different styles of play, 360 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: met so many incredible people in Greased. It I'm the 361 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: national coach now. I'm still close with so many people. 362 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: My agent over there has become one of my best friends. 363 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: So in the end you look back and say, hey, 364 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: it was a new frontier, but it was really really 365 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: a special frontier. Has your coaching style changed? Just you 366 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: know what I learned EuroLeague basketball. They're not as talented 367 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: as the NBA got a lot of NBA players had 368 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: to tell them in their career playover. Had Dominique Wilkins 369 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: played for the team I coached Byron Scott played to 370 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: team I coach Tony Delk. What happens is you have 371 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: terrific opt types of basketball. It would look like Princeton 372 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: on steroids in terms of the passing, the ball reversal, 373 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: the bounce passes, the movement to shooting is great with bigger, 374 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: better players than Princeton. And then the defense is not 375 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: as good as the NBA. Obviously, But then you traveled 376 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: into tel Aviv and Moscow and soon Seedersburg in Germany, Milan, Barcelona, Madrid, Istanbul, 377 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: some with fantastic somebody. I don't want to go back 378 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: where doing where don't you want to go back to? 379 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to get killed, So I'm not chiding. 380 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: So Moscow or Istanbul, you might not put on your 381 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: passport again. Moscow I loved we loved was in the 382 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: Red Square and you know these people come up to 383 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: you in their costumes and take pictures. It's all about 384 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: money again, just no different than any other plays like 385 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: forty second Street. But the mall surrounding the Red Square 386 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: is fantastic. In Moscow, I loved very clean now traffic 387 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: in Moscow and instanbul is La Times five. Where's the 388 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: strangest place you were recognized? Probably Moscow? Probably Moscow because 389 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: basketball is not that big there. It's it's hockey and soccer. 390 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: And the guy we were having Steph was having a 391 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: beer at this place and a guy came up to 392 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: me and said, I see you all the time. You're 393 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: an actor and I said, well, some people believe that. 394 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: I said, I'm a basketball coach. That's where it is. Wow, Wow, 395 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: that's good. We're talking to Rick Puttino, the IONA head coach. 396 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: As Iona won the MAC Championship and they got number 397 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: two Alabama coming up Saturday at four eastern. What are 398 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the analytics on three pointers? Now? Since you sort of 399 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: ushered in this era, you know when you were at Providence, 400 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: but where are we now? Do you think? I think 401 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Alabama is probably epitomizes where it has arrived because they 402 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: totally at forty percent of their shots of threes, then 403 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: another forty percent at the rim, eighteen percent they get fouled, 404 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: and two percent is mid range. They absolutely want to 405 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: cut out the mid range shot completely from their repertoire. 406 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: So that's where it has arrived for Alabama. But what 407 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: people don't recognize what makes them so great is they're 408 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: also top three defensive team in the nation. Just a defense, 409 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: so they play fast, but they play awesome defense with 410 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: great length. Now if they if it was just a 411 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: three point shot at just getting to the rim, with 412 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: no mid range game, they wouldn't be quite as good. 413 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: But they were awesome. And in eighty seven, when we 414 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: started shooting more threes than everybody, I told my guys 415 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: as well, if you make if you make so many 416 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: ten threes a game and you give up mine, it's 417 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: not a weapon. So I said, we've got to make 418 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: seven eight threes a game, but we've got to keep 419 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: our opposition to two or three for it to really 420 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: get the fruits of your labor. And then what Loyal 421 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: or Merrymount did with Paul Westhead but did was he 422 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: taking what you you started and then just kind of 423 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, well, Paul also beat everybody down the floor 424 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: and got a lot of layups, No question about it. 425 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: Paul was a great offensive mind. The only difference is 426 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Loyola didn't play great defense. They were decent, but they 427 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: didn't play great defense. And what makes not only Alabama 428 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: played great defense, but they have great and length, great athletes. 429 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: They rotate terrific, so they're they're a legitimate team to 430 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: win it all. And there's about eight or nine of 431 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: them out there. None I think the likes of Gonzaga, 432 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: but there's about eight or nine of them. The protocols 433 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: that you had to deal with, now that something new 434 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: for everybody. But how wild was it when you're not 435 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: quite sure if you're going to play a game or 436 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: have a practice or how many players you're going to have. Well, 437 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: we probably would Paul more than anybody in college basketball. 438 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: We missed fifty five days of practice pause four different times. 439 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know that if we were going to play 440 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: in our conference tournament because we swept Monmouth in two 441 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: high scoring games and Isaiah Russ, our best player, had 442 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: thirty one points that ninety went on the computer to 443 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: check out his Thursday test and he had COVID. He 444 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: played with COVID, he was asymptomatic. The whole team went 445 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: back into pause. We came out and five days later 446 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: we had to play a game and our ad and 447 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: I said, is there any way you could get them 448 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: ready in five days? I said, I'll try, but it's 449 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: going to be difficult. And we went in double sessions. 450 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: We went an hour and twenty minutes in the morning, 451 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: an hour and twenty at night. And why only an 452 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: hour twenty because if you go any longer, you're going 453 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: to pull a grind, pull a hamstring. So we got 454 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: into it was still not one hundred percent in shape, 455 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: but we're getting there. Another two couple of weeks and 456 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: I think we'll be there. I know that you're on 457 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: records saying you're going to retire at IONA, right yep. One. 458 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: If India called, would you listen to Indiana. I've had 459 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: a few calls from people about I'm not saying Indiana 460 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: about other situations, and I told them, look, I'm honored, 461 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm complimented, but I you see them. When the president 462 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: and the athletic director flew over to Iowa, I tried 463 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: to because he was he was the president of Transylvania, 464 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: small school right next to the University of Kentucky. I 465 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: tried to explain to him what went on at Louisville 466 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: and how I had nothing to do. He interrupted me, 467 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't let me go ten seconds once said, coach, We've 468 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: already spoke to all Kentucky officials. We spoke to the 469 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: Louisville a d. We spoke to seven players you coached 470 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: at each school. That we have already done our homework. 471 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: We wouldn't have flown sixteen hours here if we didn't 472 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: do our research. Still, don't even bring it up again. 473 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: We want you to be our coach. When he said 474 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: that I wasn't sure I was going to take the job, 475 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: I immediately knew in my mind. I was with my son, 476 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: my nephew, and my niece and in Madrid, and I 477 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: immediately knew I was taking that job. So I have 478 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: no interest in any place anywhere. Would I like to 479 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: someday go back to nor League and coach there again 480 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: if I own a nut, yes I would. But outside 481 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: of that, it's just retirement. Okay, I'm recording this. You 482 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: know I've been on record quite a bit, so it 483 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: would be a waste. It would be a waste of 484 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: time for anybody even to pay me the compliment to 485 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: have consideration, because your loyalties are an important when you're 486 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: sixty eight. I think when you're thirty five, you're looking 487 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: to move up the ladder. I'm not looking to get 488 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: on top of that roller coaster anymore. I'm having a 489 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: blast coaching young men that have the same ambitions that 490 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: my Kentucky players had on my providence play at Louisville, 491 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: and they had the same ambitions, maybe a little bit 492 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: and lower. It's not the NBA, it's the Champions League 493 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: over in Europe, but they have the same ambition, they 494 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: have the same potential to get there. And I'm just 495 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: flat out enjoying a small, little Catholic school in New Rochelle, 496 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: New York. Are you managing I mentioned coaching. Are you 497 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: coaching different? Are you managing your team running a program 498 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: with what happened at Louisville? Do you look at the 499 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: program differently more hands on with things? You know, Dan, 500 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I've had thirty assistants move on to be head coaches 501 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: on the players or assistants move on to be head coaches, 502 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: some of them the big names in basketball, and some 503 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: of Tubby Smith won a national championship, Billy Donovan's with 504 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: the Bulls, and Jim O'Brien went to the Celtics, the 505 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Paces and sixes. So at the Frank Vogel was my 506 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: student manager at Kentucky. I've had so many wonderful people 507 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: that have gone on to great prosperity and success. Then 508 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: I made a couple of hires that things were done 509 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: behind my back. I trusted people, but I don't want 510 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 1: to get paranoid with my staff right now. And like 511 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: one NC double, a guy said, did you look at 512 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: his computer? I said, well, first of all, so that's 513 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: a felony, and second of all, no, I did not. 514 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: And so I don't want to get paranoid and do that. 515 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: But I'm certain me on top of every little thing, 516 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: regardless of whether it's Ionna or Kentucky. You have to 517 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: be that way today. I think you should bring back 518 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: the white suit. Definitely in New Rochelle. There's a lot 519 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: of people walking downtown with white suits, except they're probably 520 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: in a different profession than coaching basketball. Yeah, but you 521 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: could be in the medical field, maybe author Avenue and 522 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: some of the gangsters. Do you still have that white 523 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: suit I do I wear at Prime one twelve in Miami. Yeah, 524 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: you could fit in there. Hey, good luck with Alabama. 525 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: See what you created, these teams that shoot threes. Now 526 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: you've got to try to defend that. Good luck with 527 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: that coach, and congratulations again thanks good visiting with you. 528 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: That's Rick Buccino, the I am a head coach and 529 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: he's brought to you by Capitol one. What's in your walling? 530 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: I talked about a roller coaster rod. He was at 531 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: the top, he was at the bottom, and then all 532 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden you go to Greece. But yeah, he 533 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: needs to take responsibility for who he hired. Absolutely, his 534 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: son Ritchie, who just he got fired by Minnesota. Now 535 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: going to New Mexico State. He's the one that said, hey, 536 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: we stop pointing fingers because nobody is going to believe you. 537 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: They have their mind made up on what happened in 538 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: your responsibility. That's it. Whether he knew an assistant coach 539 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: was paying a player one hundred thousand dollars or what 540 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: was going on in the room New Mexico Did I 541 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: say New Mexico State? But you know it comes back 542 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: to the coach like it or not comes back to 543 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: the coach. But taking responsibility allows you to move on. 544 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: And I like that. He says, Look, I would have 545 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: fired me too, and he did win his lawsuit. People, 546 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: don't you know, once there's charges or something happened, somebody 547 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: gets fired. I always say, how about we wait for 548 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: due process just a little bit. But they fired him first, 549 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: and he fought it, and you know they dropped the charges, 550 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: but he still got fired. All Right, we'll take a break, 551 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: we'll come back. Juwan Howard of Michigan will join us 552 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: next hour here on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for 553 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 554 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern 555 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you 556 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or 557 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. The Michigan head 558 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: coach Coach Howard joining us on the program as they 559 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: hook up with the winner of Mount Saint Mary's and 560 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: Texas Southern. That'll be Saturday at three eastern. Coach, I 561 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: know you're from Chicago. Do you care about the Chicago 562 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: Bears quarterbacking situation? Now that Andy Dalton is there and 563 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: you missed out on Russell Wilson. Hey, what's up? Dan? 564 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: First of all, let's say thank you for inviting me 565 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: on your show. Ask you a question. Yes, I do 566 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: care about the Chicago Bears and what's happening with our 567 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. I'm the biggest Bear span there is and 568 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm following it closely. No offense to the couch their 569 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are there under contract. But the Russell Wilson 570 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: situation sounds very very interesting. Now you got Andy Dalton 571 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: instead of Russell Wilson. Why are you guys going to 572 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: get a quarter You think you get a good quarterback 573 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: in your lifetime? Come on, well, we have a good quarterback. 574 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: Mitch is a good quarterback. Andy Dalton is a good quarterback. 575 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: Nick Foles a good quarterback. Nick Nick Foles is a 576 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl quarterback. I'm talking about a great on the 577 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback, Hall of Fame quarterback. You know 578 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: that's still to be you know, determined Russell, like I said, 579 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: it sounds interesting, he's truly looking at a Hall of Fame, 580 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: you know. Canton Ohio appearance. Do you practice it all 581 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: with your team? Nope? Nope, I don't practice. I don't 582 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: play basketball, man, I let that go. When's the last 583 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: time you played? When's the last time you played? I 584 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: will say maybe four years ago when I was an 585 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: assistant with the Miami Heat and it was a summertime. 586 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: A Sign white Side was the only big and we 587 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: didn't have anyone to guard him, and we only had 588 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: eight guys or seven guys, so just all hands on 589 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: deck to whoever can to help Hassan get to go 590 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: work out. I played four and four with the guys 591 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: and I guarded Hassan white Side. Now no offense the 592 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: Sign and he may tell you a different story, but 593 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: our team won and I had a huge impact on 594 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: the game. Huge. Do you remember your stats from that game? 595 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: You probably do, don't you? Yeah? You know you always 596 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: remember your last game stats. Do you remember you're welcome 597 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: to the NBA moment? Yes? I do. I remember. My 598 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: first shot was a you got blocked by Dino Roger. 599 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: I was going to a backdown crab dribble and I'm 600 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: getting ready to going to my move and Dino Rogers 601 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: that sat on it and I turned to get my 602 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: shoulder fake and um, I try to raise and shoot 603 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: it and he blocked the shot, I was like, wow, 604 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: welcome to the NBA. Fell Yeah, but Dino couldn't jump though, 605 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: Juan and Juwan couldn't jump hart of it, I think 606 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: two of us. What do your what do your kids 607 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: say when they see you play any of the highlights? Well, 608 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: they do say, okay, Dad, well you was a bucket getter. Um, okay, 609 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: you had a little talent, you had some skill. Um. 610 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't get a chance to really watch 611 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: me playing to the end of my career, so they 612 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: did not quite know, um, the impact that I had 613 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: on the NBA or in college. And you know, luckily 614 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: that there's some folks out there that are still saving 615 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: some video where they able to see it because back 616 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: then we have VCRs. But but the Fab five gives 617 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: you immortality, Juwan, it helps, It helps. The Fab five 618 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: documentary helped a little bit too. It gave me a 619 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: little street cred. How how close was the Fab five 620 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: to not happening? Very close? Because you were kind of 621 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: recruiting everybody, weren't you. Correct? You know, if you go 622 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: back to my senior in high school and no, actually 623 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: go back further than that, my junior in high school 624 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 1: and Illinois was the front Runner universe and the Universe 625 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: of Illinois at that time was coach Lou Olsen and 626 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: I used to always every summer go to team camp 627 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: at the University of Illinois, and Jimmy Collins was a 628 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: lead recruiter, so Illinois guns situation with the Bruce Pearl 629 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: who was an assistant with IOWA, and there was a 630 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: tape com coversation with Dionne Thomas, a recruit out of Chicago, 631 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: Illinois area, and that situation sort of put a little 632 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: damper on the plans for me to attendant Illinois because 633 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: my senior year, I was waiting to see what happened 634 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: with the NC double A and Illinois, if they were 635 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna get any type of violations or whatever. And November 636 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: was the time that I was going to commit, and 637 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: Michigan moved into being a front Runner. And then when 638 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: I recruited to the well, when I committed to the 639 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: University of Michigan, I started to recruit other players like 640 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy King and UM. I also started to recruit Chris 641 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: Webber extremely hard. And I can't take credit for Ray Jackson, 642 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: he was already committed to the University of Michigan, but 643 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: I can truly take credit for Jimmy and Chris, and 644 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: Chris did a lot of recruiting with Jalen and then 645 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: well Chris was looking at Duke, wasn't he Chris looking 646 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 1: at Duke and Michigan State. You know, Izoe said that 647 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: that's the recruit that made him cry, like he lost 648 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: Webber and he said that that's the one that hurt him. 649 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: M Yeah. Yeah. Well now you know as a coach, 650 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: where you're recruiting and somebody can break your heart. Yeah, 651 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: but I haven't cried yet. It's early though. It's like 652 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: I said, yeah yet. If I told you three years 653 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: ago your team would be a number one seed, you'd 654 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: be coaching Michigan be a number one seed, what would 655 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: you said? Well, I would say, Dan, we got a 656 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: lot of work to do. Um. You know, you gotta 657 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: take one game at a time. But you had a 658 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: hard time. You you wanted to coach in the NBA. 659 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: You and you and Patrick Ewing you were kind of 660 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: hoping to get a head coaching job. And then that 661 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: was the goal. As I was as an assistant with 662 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: the Heat, the goal was developing and which Eric Spoils 663 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: should do. And you know, Pat Riley Data, Fizdale, Keith Smart, 664 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: Dan Craig, Chris Quinn, all those guys I was learning 665 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: from and they were helping me to develop to become 666 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: a head coach someday. And give a lot of credit 667 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: to Spo. He was really was grooming me to someday 668 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: to be a head coach in NBA. And that time 669 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: each it was like the last two years before I 670 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: took the Michigan job. You know, I went on recruiting night, 671 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: recruiting I'm sorry, interviews to interview for head jobs for 672 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: what the NBA team. But I was always asked the 673 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: question from family and friends if I ever wanted to 674 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: coach college, would I? And my answer was always Michigan 675 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: if that job ever came available, that's the ownly school 676 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: I would coach. Now, you know, it's a dream job. 677 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: My dream came true. Still have a golden coach in 678 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: the NBA. I never ever thought about that. That's the 679 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: past now. Really, I'm so locked in to Michigan good. 680 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: I love this place. I'm enjoining my experience. I'm growing 681 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: each and every day, growing with my staff to become 682 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: a better coach. I tuned into the game against Maryland 683 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: and that's when the benches cleared. I had no idea 684 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: what happened there. I didn't know until a few minutes 685 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: after there. Have you watched that video of what happened? Oh? Yeah, 686 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 1: I watched a video because I actually wanted to watch 687 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: it right after I addressed the team, apologize to the team, 688 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: and I wanted to go back and and see, like 689 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: how it all happened. And I knew how it happened. 690 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: But it's like an out of body experience. Yeah, I 691 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: mean I was totally stunned, and I was also disappointed 692 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: and how I reacted because as the leader of this team, 693 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: and I felt that I should have did a better 694 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: job of controlling my emotions. Well, as you said, look, 695 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: it's take your notes. It's in the past. I don't 696 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: want to talk about this anymore with you know, your 697 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: conversation with coach coach Turgeon. But you know, you're team 698 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: rallies around you too, which is the most important part 699 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: because they pick you up. And you know the same 700 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: thing with Patrick Ewing, I mean his team picked him up. 701 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: You know they went four in a row in the 702 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: in the Big East. Have you talked to Youing? Uh? 703 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: This year I reached out to him right away when 704 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: I saw that they won the Big East Championship, which 705 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: is very hard to do in a tough conference. And um, 706 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, there were a lot of you know, I 707 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: would say, these uh, these experts you know, picking youing 708 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: team to really fall out or not even make it 709 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: that far. And uh, coach coach stepped up and his team, 710 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: like you said, they rallied behind him. Um, he prepared 711 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: them and they went out and competed, and they competed 712 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: every game. And I'm so happy for him. So I 713 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: hit him up right away, and uh, he hit me 714 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: right back, because you know, I don't know if you 715 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: notice or not. Dan, I played for Pat. He was 716 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: an assistant coach with the Houston Rockets when Jeff Van 717 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: Gunney was our head coach and we had a staff 718 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: of Thibodeau, also Steve Clifford and Pat, which was a 719 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: hell of a staff, all head coaches, and Jeff Van 720 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: Gunny was the head coach, and Pat and I have 721 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: a great relationship. What if I said that coaches have 722 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: to play in the NCAA tournament, so you got to 723 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: you gotta eat. Every team's coach has to play like 724 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: five minutes, like how how would Michigan do against some 725 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,959 Speaker 1: of the other teams that you might be facing. Well, 726 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: I know were on radio, and I have to be 727 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: very careful with my words, but this is the competitor 728 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: speaking here. I was put it like this. We're not losing. 729 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: We're not losing. And I have a lot of trust 730 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: and belief in myself and I still train, I still 731 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: work out, but it's never basketball shape. But we're for 732 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: competitors only anytime. If there's any coach that I want 733 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: to lace it up and play one on one, and 734 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: I know Stackhouse, I know he's listening. You know, he's 735 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: probably the only one that I think that will give 736 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: me a little bit of competition because I know he's 737 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: in great shape. He plays pretty much every day. You're 738 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: not worried about Bryce Drew. Stop stop Mark you. You're 739 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: not worrying about two little what about you? And too slow? 740 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's my guy. Man, that's good. Do 741 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: you your players ask you about your Michael Jordan moment? 742 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: Do they have? Have they asked you about that? And 743 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: what is your Michael Jordan moment? Yeah? I've gotten a 744 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: question just about a month ago after practice. Terrence Williams 745 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: Junior asked me a Michael Jordan's question about the time 746 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: playing in the Dome when Jordan was filming a movie 747 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: Space Sham and they saw some footage where I was 748 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: playing and were playing shirts and skins, and they asked it, 749 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: you know about you know, my relationship with Michael and 750 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: m and I talked about the brotherhood that we both 751 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: shared and how much I've learned from him and his 752 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 1: work ethic and watching. While Michael was shooting a movie, 753 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: he still was training for NBA season. Talked about how 754 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: we played that night, every night, five days a week, 755 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: pick up versus some high level talents and NBA ball players, 756 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: all stars, hall of famers, you name it. Did Jordan's 757 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: all I gave him? You know all the other stuff? Man, 758 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: I can't give him. Man. You know how from Chicago, 759 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: there's this famous word that they say snitches get stitches. 760 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, everybody has that moment where you go, oh, man, 761 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: I'm guarding Jordan or Jordan, you know he's gonna say 762 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: something Like everybody had a Larry Bird moment that you know, 763 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: Bird would say something to people. But did you have 764 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: that moment with Jordan where you probably were in the 765 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: wrong place at the wrong time. Well, I recall the 766 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: time when MJ was the president of the Washington Wizards 767 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: and I was a player on the Washington Wizards, and 768 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: he practiced one day with us. He's done it before 769 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 1: more than once. But the first practice, Uh, I didn't 770 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: know he's gonna really practice, and you know, he got 771 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: out there and I still had an impact on the game. 772 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: I was very effective out there. And he was talking 773 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,240 Speaker 1: some trash, doing the typical Michael thing, and he reminded 774 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: us that he beat us in the in the playoffs 775 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: and swept us. I thought that was you know, he 776 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: he hit below the belt. Michael knows how to hit 777 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: below the belt. You know, I push the right buttons. 778 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: Wait was that the le Bradford Smith game. No, no, okay, no, 779 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: that was later. That was the first round when it 780 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: was the Bulls championship team. They won it that year. 781 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: And on my team it was myself, Weber, George Morrisson, 782 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: Rod Strickland, and Cabriccheney respectable. Five. Yeah, we were young group. 783 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: We were very young. Uh See. Web tells great stories 784 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: about Jordan. He said that they showed up at the 785 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 1: Chicago Stadium and Mike's you guys got off the bus. 786 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: Like I said, man, snitches, get stitches. Man. Some stories 787 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: you just can't tell. I let it go. Come on, 788 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: come on, Mike, I'm not telling that story. Nope, nope, nope. 789 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: Mike's smoking a cigar, sitting on a Lamborghini and then 790 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: he's like, you know who's got a guard? Who's gonna 791 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: guard me tonight? With some language attached to that, right, Hey, 792 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: I'll let Webb tell you that. Um hey, congrats on 793 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: the season so far. A lot of fun and I 794 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: know you're not fully assembled there with your lineup, but 795 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: good luck in the tournament. Hey, Dan, I appreciate it. Man. 796 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: Um I see that cool shirts you have, So when 797 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: you have time, you just send me one of those 798 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: T shirts saying Patty's Day, that's happy Dan Patrick's Day. 799 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: That's dope. I'll send one out to you, no doubt. 800 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: Double X, double double X, double X, Happy Dan Patrick's Day. 801 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: Good luck in the tournament. Thank you, Joanne, great to 802 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: talk to you. Thank you always. Man, stay safe,