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Speaker 1: Can I please hope that Giselle and Tom Brady get

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Speaker 1: back together? Can that just happen? Because they both were

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary couple, not just because they're both physically beautiful,

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Speaker 1: but because they're both outrageously successful, and they seemed to

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Speaker 1: be successful at marriage as well, having two very public,

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Speaker 1: astronomically lucrative and successful careers and sustaining a marriage together

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Speaker 1: under the spotlight while maintaining some normalcy, which they definitely did.

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Speaker 1: They weren't flaunting themselves in the media. We would see

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Speaker 1: them at the met gala, thank god, because that was

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Speaker 1: beautiful specimen to see. But it wasn't like they were

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Speaker 1: out there all the time. She was in Boston being

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Speaker 1: a mom to the kids and them living in Boston

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Speaker 1: is very provincial. It's a very conservative town, and so

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Speaker 1: her having that life there and sure making friends and

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Speaker 1: building an infrastructure there, that alone means that they've put

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Speaker 1: family first, and yes, his career, but it just seems

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Speaker 1: like they really built a nice life for themselves and

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Speaker 1: then things started to crumble, which does happen. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many years they were married, but like they say,

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Speaker 1: the seven year itch and I think they were together

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Speaker 1: longer than that. I have to look that up. But

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Speaker 1: so then they get divorced, and of course, because there's

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Speaker 1: so much money, of course it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: contentious divorce. There's just so much money. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: sure at one point she had more money than him.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure not when they were getting divorced, because she

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Speaker 1: had slowed her career down. But they both maintained a

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Speaker 1: class about them from what I see. I haven't been

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Speaker 1: under the hood and paid microscopic attention, but I think

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Speaker 1: that they both really did keep the divorce as classy

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Speaker 1: as possible. Yes, it was public, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: who was leaking everything, but I guess divorce is scary

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Speaker 1: and it's just like public and both of their reputations

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Speaker 1: seem like they're getting trashed at the time, and so

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Speaker 1: who knows who's talking. But now Giselle did this interview,

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Speaker 1: and I guess the way that the question was posed

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Speaker 1: a dream? It triggered her like she couldn't get past

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Speaker 1: the next question, and she got stuck in it, and

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Speaker 1: her emotions got stuck in it. It wasn't like she

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Speaker 1: just heard what was asked of her. It was like

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Speaker 1: she felt what was asked of her. And nothing's worse

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Speaker 1: than like the death of a dream. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's so poetic, because there's nothing worse than feeling like

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Speaker 1: and remembering back to when everything was great and that

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Speaker 1: dream dying. And there's nothing worse than knowing someone for

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Speaker 1: so long and then being part of your life and

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Speaker 1: then being your everything and the first and last person

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Speaker 1: you call and your sounding board. And she was so

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Speaker 1: protective of him on the field, and she went obviously

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Speaker 1: to all the games, but just it was just a

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Speaker 1: beautiful family. And so the death of that dream is brutal.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what divorce is. Someone who becomes your

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Speaker 1: every single thing and your life lifeblood, and your partner

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Speaker 1: and part of you and your best friend and your

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Speaker 1: confidant and you you know, business partner and therapist and

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Speaker 1: co parent and teammate, and that one day dissolves and

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Speaker 1: they become somebody you used to know. And it makes

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Speaker 1: sense that he would date Arena Shake and she would

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Speaker 1: date the jiu jitsu instructor, and you know, that's great,

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Speaker 1: but it feels like it's really hard to replace that

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Speaker 1: family feeling and that solidarity that they had, and that's

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Speaker 1: what divorce does. And it was a big argument years

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Speaker 1: ago on a TV show about one person said that

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Speaker 1: a divorce is like a death, and someone else got

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Speaker 1: very mad because that person isn't all around this earth.

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Speaker 1: But I understood that statement because I think the divorce

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Speaker 1: is like a death, and it is a death of

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Speaker 1: a dream, and it's like a death in the family,

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Speaker 1: and it affects everyone, and maybe the grass isn't always greener,

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Speaker 1: and they're realizing that they had a beautiful life and

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Speaker 1: that they're going to get old one day and what

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Speaker 1: to want? And I think that that's what happens in

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of a divorce, Like it's different when you're

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Speaker 1: going through it. And I'm sure them fighting that was

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Speaker 1: like a project in and of itself, and everything seems

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Speaker 1: like a good idea and you're not happy. So they

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Speaker 1: weren't happy, and he wanted to go back to football

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Speaker 1: and she didn't want him to and she didn't want

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Speaker 1: to move to Tampa or whatever went on in their relationship,

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Speaker 1: and it was her turn and he had it had

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Speaker 1: been his turn for so many years. We saw that

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Speaker 1: with Victoria Beckham, and she wanted to move to the

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Speaker 1: States or she wanted her own life. I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I saw the documentary and I just know that it

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Speaker 1: was so many years of him wanting to go here,

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Speaker 1: and him wanted to go there, and finally it felt

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Speaker 1: like enough, like it needs to be we need to

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Speaker 1: be done with this life. So it's sad. I think death.

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Speaker 1: Divorce is a death, and it is sad. And I

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Speaker 1: hope they get back together. I hope they get back

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Speaker 1: together or at least are really good friends and like

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Speaker 1: they're like family anyway. But I would like them to

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Speaker 1: get back together. That's my vote for Tom and Giselle.

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Speaker 1: Is divorce like a death. So Robin Roberts interviewed Giselle

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Speaker 1: and asked her if her divorce was like the death

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Speaker 1: of a dream, and it triggered her. And my feeling

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Speaker 1: is that divorce is like a death. It's a loss.

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Speaker 1: It's a loss of a life together. It's a loss

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Speaker 1: of a friend, a partner, a relationship, a co parent,

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Speaker 1: and it's a lot of a life as you once knew.

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's like a it's a death of what

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Speaker 1: it was. That is deb that is no longer And

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Speaker 1: people and myself have said that you do see who

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Speaker 1: a person is when you get divorced from them, and

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Speaker 1: you would want to marry someone that in divorce it

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Speaker 1: would be the best that it could possibly be. And

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Speaker 1: I believe that because I've been through the worst possible

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Speaker 1: divorce that I've seen, barring physical abuse, and I think

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Speaker 1: it is like a death, and I do think it

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Speaker 1: is a tremendous traumatic experience. But I think that you

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Speaker 1: do see who a person is in divorce. But I

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Speaker 1: also think it's the most extreme of circumstances because you're

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Speaker 1: seeing a person in the midst of desperation because they

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Speaker 1: feel like there's been a death. So people act in trauma,

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Speaker 1: so people feel that they've lost everything, that life will

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Speaker 1: never be the same. That it is a death. It's

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Speaker 1: the death of how much you lived with and saw

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Speaker 1: your kids. It's the death of what holidays meant to you,

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Speaker 1: what they were to you. It's the death of tradition.

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Speaker 1: It's the death of that partnership. It's the death of

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Speaker 1: what your life will be like growing old together and

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Speaker 1: what you envision that to be. It's the death of

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Speaker 1: your kids sports games and your husband's sports games and

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Speaker 1: just all of your partnership. It's the death of a partnership.

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Speaker 1: So it is the death of a dream. And I

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Speaker 1: think that that was a poetic and triggering question. And

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Speaker 1: I hope that Giselle and Tom get back together because

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Speaker 1: maybe they want the dream together. It's very scary to

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Speaker 1: think about the death of a dream. It's a very

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Speaker 1: very very powerful concept. And marriage and partnership and relationship

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Speaker 1: is about dreaming and hoping, and they were at a

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Speaker 1: certain point in their relationship and maybe they felt the

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Speaker 1: dream had died, but maybe they can get the dream back.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady retired and then he went back in, so

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Speaker 1: they retired, and maybe they'll go back in. That would

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Speaker 1: be my wish.