WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Dunwich Horror 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.400 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:16.000 Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:20.360 Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And this week we 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.320 have I think we have a pretty fun film for everybody. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:28.600 We're gonna be talking about the nineteen seventy necronomicon film 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.800 The Dunwich Horror, starting the late Great Dean Stockwell, does 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.479 a beholder make an appearance in this movie? I want 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.120 to know from somebody who has more D and D 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:41.800 experience than um. Yeah, Well, the depiction of the monster 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.760 in this film is very interesting. For the most part 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.680 is very minimal, but we do see a weird splash 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:51.160 of some sort of beholder esque um, you know, almost 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.160 kind of Medusa esque gorgon had creature towards the end, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.640 but you don't really get a great look at it. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.040 Sort of a flying ball of meat with with like 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:06.479 eyeball stalks and tentacles writhing. Is the color saturation flashes. Now, 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.880 there's a thing that's featured on the poster for this film, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.800 and it's pretty cool poster. Um. You'll see different versions 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.720 of it where there's this kind of like um be 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:20.440 steal Dean Stockwell head with a bunch of of snakes 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.200 and serpents and leeches and stuff kind of like writhing 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.360 on the head. This is not exactly what you see 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.560 in the film. This is just kind of poster art 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.880 I think inspired by it. True though, I do like 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.480 the diversity of the different kinds of heads on the 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.600 snake things coming out of this beast. So you've got 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.080 like a cow skull looking thing with horns, but then 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.600 you've got a leech mouth and then, uh is the 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.440 one thing that just kind of looks like a raccoon. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.080 It's not like a monstrous Yeah, it does kind of 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.360 look a raccoon. Yeah, all sorts of stuff going on there. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.800 It's chaos. It's chaos in that creature. Um. But this 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.800 is the film has been been on my list for 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.800 a while, but I think a couple of things kind 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.840 of propelled it to the forefront for us to record 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.680 this month. First of all, I'm growing a mustache for 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.720 the Movember effort. You've probably heard our ads about that 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.080 and you know mentioning, uh you know where they can 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.440 go to learn more. Uh. So I wanted to watch 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.000 some films with solid mustaches in them, and Dean Stockwell's 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.160 mustache in this film was essential from me because unlike 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:18.480 the excellent mustaches of someone like Vincent Price or Oliver Read, 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.760 this one looks like the sort of mustache that I 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:25.359 could conceivably grow, an uncanny mustache, a mustache that at 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.440 once checks out checks off all the boxes for being 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:33.000 a cool mustache, but also looks somewhat uncomfortable. I don't know, 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.520 maybe it's just me. Well, that's the that's the essence 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.080 of Dean Stockwell's character in this movie. Because well, of course, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:44.440 this is based on a novella originally by HP Lovecraft. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.040 One way I think the movie is is very different 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.400 than the source material is the movie has more suaveness 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.400 in it. Dean Stockwell plays a guy who is ultimately 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.919 an occult creep who whose affinities lie in other dimensions. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.480 But at the same time that there's some scenes where 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.320 he's kind of he's kind of smooth, he's he's kind 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.400 of got a little bit of charm. Yeah, it kind 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.760 of feels like a love story at times. It doesn't 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.359 stay that way very long, but there are a few 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:11.960 moments in here where you're like, oh, this is kind 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:16.919 of a you know, a slightly horror themed love story. Now, 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.280 the other thing that really propelled this to the forefront 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.600 for us is that, of course, on November seven, Dean 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.160 Stockwell passed away, the star of this film where one 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.600 of the stars of this film. So I thought, well, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.040 that settles it. You know, we need we probably need 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.400 to cover this one. And it is kind of a 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.160 tribute to Dean Stockwell, who ums as well discussing a bet. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.000 You know, it's been in tons of stuff over the years, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.880 and there's some very memorable roles mixed into that filmography. Now, 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.120 as as you mentioned, this is a film that is 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.040 based on an HP Lovecraft story, and uh, I think 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.760 I think I long avoided watching this adaptation of The Dune, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.040 which horror, because I had always heard that Lovecraft afficionados 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.360 did not like it. They didn't think he was true 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.520 to his vision. But I think that time has shown 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.640 us that, first of all, cosmic are doesn't always translate 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.760 that well onto the screen anyway. And also the more 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.760 we come to terms with what lovecraft vision really entailed, uh, 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.760 in its entirety, I think deviation from from forms sounds 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:17.400 increasingly okay. Yeah, Plus I saw that electric Wizards just 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.440 Oborn loves this film, so I figured, well, something must 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.160 be working in this adaptation for people not familiar that 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.360 sort of a house favorite. Uh doom Metal Stoner doom 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.960 metal band Um. But they yeah that they actually sampled 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.280 this movie and at least one of their songs, right Yeah. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.000 And then there's another song that is just called dun 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.160 which which it seems entirely inspired by this movie, has 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.920 lyrics like child of Dune which rise you have your 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.080 father's eyes and and it looks like somebody affiliated with 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.440 the band UM actually cut together, you know, a music 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.920 video for that track using footage exclusively from this movie. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.960 So there you go. I think it's fitting for the 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.720 band because this movie has just they're they're right sort 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:06.480 of bow months between cosmic menace and absolute cornball yeah. Um. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.960 And by the way, that that track, that music video, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.479 I'll include that on the blog post for this episode 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.800 at Samuta music dot com. And by the way, for 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.760 those of you that have written in and you've said, hey, 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.160 where can I get a list of all the movies 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.599 you've covered, of all the weird health episode so that 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.200 you've done that is where you will find that. Uh. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.960 Samuta Music s E. M. U T A M U 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.960 S I C dot com. So let's get into it. Uh, 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:31.640 you know, what do we have in this film? We 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.560 have a we have like a nineteen seventies hippie necronomicon 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:40.000 story full of weird music Dean Stockwell. Uh and it's 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.479 produced by Roger Corman. And see the Corman connection because 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.920 it has a little bit of the same grit as 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.360 those uh, those like Corman Edgar Allan Poe movies from 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.320 around the same time. Yeah, and it also, as we'll 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.000 point out, a number of the people involved in this 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.400 went on to be in episodes of Night Gallery. I 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.760 feel like this if you if you dig Night Gallery, 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.480 you'll dig this film because it has that same texture, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.680 that same that same field, that same mouth feel that 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.400 you get with Night Gallery. So how do you do 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.200 an elevator pitch on on this movie? Would you say, 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.000 like boy meets Girl, Boy wants to open an interdimensional 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:19.000 riff to summon ancient demons that ruled the cosmos before humankind, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:27.400 meddling grandpas and Professor's interfere ye, generational conflict over over um, 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.320 you know, elicit books of ancient knowledge. Well, what would 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.240 happened if you rolled a Dubie with a page from 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.599 the Necronomicon. Uh. These are all ideas that were bouncing 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.040 around my head. Yeah. Well, we'll probably need to come 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.440 back to this later on. But it's interesting the little 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.480 ribbon of hippie culture and aesthetics running through the middle 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.560 of this movie. I mean, it's not you know, it's 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.960 not a Woodstock kind of movie except in little like moments, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:58.160 and those moments are the suggestions of the the the 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:02.000 otherworldly evil. It's almost like a you might say it's 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.520 more anti hippie than hippie because like the hippie imagery 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:11.480 and it is the visions coming from the the unspeakable place. Yeah. Yeah, 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.000 So it's gonna be very interesting to discuss those themes 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.440 because it's not one of those films that I feel 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:21.640 like purchase itself, you know, perfectly between cultures of this 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.720 time period, where it can you know, fully be one 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.240 thing to one side of the the culture war and 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.760 then another two too, to the other side. But it 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.480 does it does seem to sort of try be trying 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.480 to have that ambiguity at times. Of course, then again 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.920 it might just be sort of uh, I don't know, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.760 historical happenstance the same way you might imagine if if 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.520 this movie was made in the visions from the Other 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.800 the Other plane would involve sinister grunge people in flannel 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:53.120 kind of flailing around in a in a Seattle alleyway. Yeah, exactly. 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.640 All right, Well, let's go ahead and have have some 0:07:55.720 --> 0:08:07.040 of the trailer here. Nights are darker and night is 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:25.400 when it happens in The Dunwich Horror, Come Back Old One, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:35.280 Princes of Darkness and Repossess the Earth. The Dunwich Horror 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.160 based on HP Lovecraft's Terrifying Tale of Those Who Explore 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:49.120 the Unspeakable, starring Sandra Dee, Dean Stockwell, Academy Award winner 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.640 Ed Begley, Sam Jeffey. I've never heard anything like that. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:06.120 M all right, sounds pretty good. Sounds pretty good, yep. Alright, well, 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.560 let's dive right into the people involved in bringing this 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.560 to the screen. First of all, I should know that 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.600 apparently this was originally going to be a Mario Bava film, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.800 but it sounds like American International Pictures switched things up, 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.680 you know, sort of for your the sort of business 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.800 reasons you might expect with the studio, Like I think 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.800 one of Baba's previous films underperformed or didn't perform in 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.440 the way they wanted it to, so it ended up 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:32.600 getting shuffled around and we ended up with Daniel Holler 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.400 directing it. Um, this is a guy who's born in 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:40.240 ninety six, And weirdly enough, Hallard's directorial debut with the 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:47.040 nineteen sixty five Lovecraft adaptation Die Monster Die, starring Boris Karloff. Oh, yes, 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.680 that one based on the Color out of Space, I believe. So. Yeah, 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.160 I have not seen this one either. I haven't either 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.280 of it. You know, they just made a new Color 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.600 out of Space movie within the past year or two 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.200 and I actually never saw it yet. But it's got 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.839 Nicholas Cage in it. Oh well, well, you know it's 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:06.480 good then. Uh So Haller went on to from Die 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.640 Monster Die, he went on to direct a pair of 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.640 late sixties biker movies. He did Devil's Angels starring John 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:17.120 Cassavetti's He did The Wild Racers. This starred Fabian and 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.000 also featured um one of our favorites, Dick Miller in there. 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.720 Of course, you know, this movie really missed out on 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.320 having Dick Miller and it. Dick Miller would have been 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:31.080 great as as one of the irate townspeople you know. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.080 he has towns people written all over him. He could 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.800 have been the guy at the gas station. That's a 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.280 perfect Dick Miller role. Yeah, Or he could have been 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.400 one of the guys at the store making fun of 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.480 Grandpa when he was talking about bringing beings over from 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:47.120 another dimension. Yeah, yeah, missed opportunity. Anyway. Haller went on 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.040 to do mostly a lot of TV work. He directed 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.120 the pilot for Buck Rogers in the twenty Century, which 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.280 ended up being pushed out as a film, so technically 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.120 there's a film credit for him. Uh. He was also 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.680 production design or an art director on a bunch of 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.960 old Roger Corman movies. All right, now, the writers on 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.360 this um there there are a couple of writers that 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.520 really didn't go on to do a whole lot else, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:15.280 Henry Rosenbaum and Ronald Solkovski. But Curtis Hansen was one 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:20.360 of the writers. He lived sixteen and this was his 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.559 first screenplay, but he went on to work on screenplays 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:28.200 for White Dog, Never cry Wolf, and l A Confidential, 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:32.280 which he also directed. Other directorial credits include The Hand 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.240 That Rocks the Cradle, Wonder Boys and eight Mile. Now, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.160 I guess if you're trying to adapt a Lovecraft story 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.720 for for the screen, there's always a choice you've got 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.439 to make, which is sort of I would say, probably 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.280 usually prized for its dreadful imagination, you know, very imaginative 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.160 of of uh, strange and powerful imagery that that that 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.320 makes you feel small and afraid. So it's good horror 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.440 in that sense, but very often lax a human or 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.160 humane element. And so do you just sort of try 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.280 to do that in a movie and risk making an 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.880 alienating film that nobody doesn't really have characters anybody can 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.640 connect to, or do you try to adapt the story 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:16.720 into something more human with more identifiable characters. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.360 that is always that because yes, some generally these are 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.920 stories that are very a sexual uh you know, they 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.440 don't really have any any romance in them, and it's 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.320 all about uh in a dread and cyclopean architecture and 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.960 so forth. Uh So, yeah, what direction do you go 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.080 in it? Do you own like an action direction which 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.640 a number of people have gone or tried to go. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.160 I know that's what Gayama de Toro I think has 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.240 what been wanting to do with at the Mountains of madness. Uh, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.840 do you go in kind of a a schlocky, sexy 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.120 harror direction like you know, the the reanimator movies definitely 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.600 went in that direction? Or do or do you find 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.440 some other path? I would say the screenplay adaptation in 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.080 this movie doesn't step fully into making it like a 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.760 you know, like a rich, lovely world full of full 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.880 of identifiable characters that are you know fully human, But 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.199 it takes sort of a half step in that direction. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:12.160 It is less barren of humanity than than your standard 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:18.600 Lovecraft story would be. Yeah. Now, Lovecraft lived eighteen ninety seven. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.240 Poul horror author and one of the major voices of 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.120 the Weird Tales era, who became more influential and famous 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.920 after his death. His work has left an undeniable mark 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.880 on modern horror, but modern horror fans have had to 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.080 contend with the racism in his letters of correspondence as 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.400 well as in the fabric of many of his tales. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.960 In the stories themselves. It's one of those things that 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.480 I feel like it's impossible not to see it once 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.600 you've seen it, you know. And and even in the 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.200 Dunwich Horror, which I did not reread for for the 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.520 purposes of viewing this film. But but even in watching 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.680 this film, there are elements that are about like people 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.880 being despised because of their lineage um and it's it's 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.440 just impossible to ignore, Like that's it's just baked into 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.839 so many of his works totally. And I think that's 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.960 one of the reasons I would agree with what you 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:08.040 said earlier, like I'm not really troubled by lovecraft adaptations 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.240 not being true to his vision. I mean, I think 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.000 you can probably take a lot of what's like cool 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.200 about the monstrous and imaginative qualities of some of his 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.960 stories and do something else with them, maybe even something 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:24.680 better with them. Yeah, and in this case, something grew here. Yeah, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.840 So let's talk about the groovy humans involved in acting 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.600 in this film. Uh. The top build star is Sandra 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.840 d who plays Nancy uh Wagner, who lived Night issue 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.200 of nine through two thousand and five. A former child 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.880 model and teen actor, D was a big deal in 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.000 the late fifties through the late sixties, known for the 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.040 title role in nineteen sixty two Gidget, among others uh 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.040 and this film The Dunwich Harror was supposed to be 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.320 part of a comeback for her. But it apparently didn't 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.120 quite take off, and her work after this film was 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.160 increasingly sporadic. But she did go on to appear on 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.400 three episodes of Rod Serling's Night Gallery, which again feels 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.680 appropriate considering the uh, you know, the tone of this 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.360 film and the tone of Night Gallery. You know what, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.760 I thought Sandra d did really good in this movie. 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.920 I thought her part was a little bit underwritten later 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.640 in the film. But but she does a good job 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.280 with it. Yeah, I mean, she's very charismatic on the screen. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.520 You you instantly buy into her, into her character, just 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.240 based largely on on these performance Uh. But yeah, her 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:33.760 her character increasingly feels less dynamic and and and more 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.240 powerless and kind of like shuffle to the background of things. So, uh, 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.240 that that being said, she does a good job with it. 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.320 I was gonna say, actually, very much reminds me of 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.800 the arc of the protagonist in uh in Lords of Salem, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.200 who My main problem with that movie is the that 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.880 the protagonist for the second two thirds of the movie 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.320 becomes mostly catatonic. Oh yeah, I think it was very 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.800 much a comparison to be made between the character trajectories 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.200 of both of these Uh. The these roles in both 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:12.760 of these films. All right, well, let's let's talk about 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:17.240 Dean Stockwell. Then Dean Stockwell plays Wilbur Lately here, so 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.560 Dean stock will live ninety six through one and uh boy, 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.200 he had a really long career. He started out as 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.440 a child actor in ninety five and continued acting for 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.720 the the next seventy years. His last screen credit was 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.720 in two thousand fifteen, so some two four screen credits. Wow, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.800 So as you might imagine, there's a hold on, hold on, Sorry, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.320 I have to ask, is that counting each individual episode 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.480 of Quantum Leap separately or just as one credit? Just 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.960 as one credit? Yeah? Wow, Yeah, because yeah Quantum Leap. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.560 Of course, because since he did a fair amount of 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.120 TV work, and so I think a lot of people 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.280 when you think of Dean Stockwell, you probably think of 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.840 his character Al, the hologram un Quantum Leap, Uh, the 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.240 guy who appears to you and helps helps you figure 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.240 out what you've got to do in this weird sci 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:12.640 fi reincarnation of serial um situation in order to keep 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.280 passing on through other people's lives. I was a big 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.359 fan of Quantum of Leep. I remember we would it 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.720 was like a show that that my family would watch. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.840 We would watch it together whenever it was on. So 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.720 that's fond memories of that. I think that was another 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.280 one that I sometimes saw at a hotel cable like vacation, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.119 because they really they did reruns of it on the 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.960 Sci Fi channel, right, Oh did they? Okay? I think yeah, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.119 I think you're right. I think you're right. So Stockwell 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.840 did a lot of Western's early on again, a lot 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.160 of TV work. He did the hippie picture psych Out 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.400 in nineteen sixty eight opposite Jack Nicholson. He was also 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.560 in Dennis Hopper's The Last Movie in nineteen seventy one, 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:50.720 so to a certain extent he seems to have been 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.840 very much a part of that Nicholson Hopper dern fond 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.800 a scene of the late sixties early seventies. In the 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.680 mid eighties, he had this sudden film home um Resurgence, 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:06.640 appearing in Vim Vender's Paris Texas four, as well as 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.720 David Lynch's Dune in nineteen eighty four, in which he 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.919 played dr You. Oh yeah, I forgot he was in Dune. 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.360 Yeah yeah, he's got the mustache, he's got the mark 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.639 on the forehead. Um, yeah, In nineteen eighty five, he 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.679 was in William Fredkins to Live and Die in l A. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.760 Subsequent films include Blue Velvet, Beverly Hills Cop two. He 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.400 also had a memorable role in the nineteen eighty eight 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.560 Jonathan Demi comedy Married to the Mob, in which he 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.439 played a mobster. I think something like Tony the Tiger 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.000 or something. What's his name? But yeah on TV though, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.240 I think he's best remembered for al on Quantum Leap. 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.880 He also later had a fun recurring role on the 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:50.400 Battlestar Galactica reboot as a John cavill and he did 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.960 an episode of Night Gallery. So a weird fact I 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:57.159 came across while while reading about this movie. Dean Stockwell 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:01.200 was in a second movie adaptation of the Dunwich Horror 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.040 of the novella. This movie is based on It's one 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:08.240 from two thousand eight that looks truly dreadful, but in 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.200 this one he's like he switches roles. So in this 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.080 movie he plays the guy who's trying to summon the demons, 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.639 and in the two thousand and eight movie he plays 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.760 the professor who has to battle that guy in the end. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.440 So it's basically a switch from like playing Macbeth to 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:27.359 playing McDuff. And this adaptation is set in Louisiana, which 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:32.320 what can you really separate the stony New England nous 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.520 from this story that seems absolutely crucial to it. That 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.120 seems like trying to set the shining in Louisiana. Well 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.719 you say that, but then again, this film, um was 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.760 the Dunwich Horror of the nineteen seventy was filmed in 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.359 like coastal northern California. So no, that makes sense given 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.560 it and it it works, but then again it works 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.800 for this film, but yeah, it doesn't feel particularly like 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.840 New England. Now, I will also mention that Dean was 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.520 the son of actor Harry Stockwell, who, among other things, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.000 was the voice of the Prince in Disney snow White, 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.560 the classic snow White animated film. And Dean's older brother, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.480 Guy was also an actor, appearing in such films as 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:16.120 Santa Sangria and also nineteen sixty five The Warlord. He's 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.879 played the villain in that opposite Charlton Heston. Now you 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:24.560 mentioned the professor that that the battles wilbur H. This 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:29.240 is Professor Armitage, doctor or Dr Henry Armitage, as as 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.639 he's reference in the credits for for Dunwich Horror and 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.879 in this film, this character is played by Ed Bagley Sr. 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.520 Who lived nineteen oh one through nineteen seventy. So he's 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.560 the hero of the picture. Philosophy professor at I believe 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:47.399 from uh Miskatonic. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.200 if this is like the California branch of the college 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:55.160 or if he's visiting. Uh, it's not really explored. Yeah, 0:20:55.240 --> 0:21:00.479 Miskatonic University, Riverside. Yeah. Uh so Ed Bagley Senior. As 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.119 you may notice, this is of course Ed Bangley Junior's dad. Um. 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.240 He was nearly seventy years old during this film, and 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.080 it definitely shows he has very much the feel of 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.520 of an older guy in this which, Um. I think 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.639 it's rather rather fitting because we talked about sort of 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:21.040 the themes of generational um tug of war in this picture. 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.960 You know that it's about the old people telling the 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.600 young people they shouldn't do things, and and ultimately it 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.679 feels like it has this um uh, you know, it 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.159 makes sense that that armitage would be this grandfatherly character 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.679 who's trying to protect young Sandra d from the dangers 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.400 posed by hippie sorcerers. Oh yeah, I can see that. 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.639 And well, even though Ed Begley is supposed to be 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.520 on the side of good at the end of this 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.920 at the end of this movie, he plays so well 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.080 into the cranky old man archetype. I mean, and I 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.720 think he was often type cast that way. I'm not 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:57.800 I haven't seen all of his movie, but like, for example, 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.480 in Twelve Angry Men, he played is like the worst juror, 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.720 you know, he's the one, he's like the racist one. 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.440 He's he's the like nasty old guy who they eventually 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.200 went over in the end, but like it becomes clear 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.640 that he's just like a mean old crank, and he 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:17.040 can play a mean old crank. He Um. Yeah. I 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.119 don't know that I've really seen him and much um 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:20.879 or at least don't remember him from much, but he 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.000 was a major actor. He won an Academy Award for 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:26.480 Best Supporting Actor for his performance in nineteen sixty two 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:29.960 Sweet Bird of Youth. Um you already mentioned fifty seven 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.760 Twelve Angry Men. He was also in The Unsinkable Molly 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.480 Brown in nineteen sixty four, and he was nominated for 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.400 an Emmy Award for Inherent the Wind? Oh who did 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.480 he play and Inherent the Wind? Was he? Uh? Was 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.840