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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Rain drops on today's episode of Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King. I am so thrilled because I get

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Speaker 1: to have an exclusive conversation with the Beauty of Miami.

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Speaker 1: She is like the fan favorite. She is the one

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Speaker 1: we all love. We all want her to be a

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Speaker 1: full time housewife. We all want her to hold them Kimoo.

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Speaker 1: Give it up for the one, the only, my girl,

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Speaker 1: the most gorgeous thing walking the streets of Miami. He

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Speaker 1: keep bar Wow.

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Speaker 2: What an introduction you deserve it all. I promise guys,

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Speaker 2: I did not tell him to shout out like this,

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Speaker 2: But thank you so much. Callers. You know I love

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Speaker 2: you so much. I admire you so much. I've been

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Speaker 2: watching you for many years. To have been sitting here

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Speaker 2: It's like a dream come true.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so sweet of you. Now listen, it's a dream

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Speaker 1: of mine to have you here. I love you so much.

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Speaker 1: We folly trumble on social media. I think you are

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Speaker 1: something amazed and I am so grateful that you said

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Speaker 1: yes to coming on the podcast. So I want to

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Speaker 1: say thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't say no. I mean, I'm be Carlos. Of

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Speaker 2: course when where I'm there, Niked, I'll show up. Har

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Speaker 2: you on me. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have the clothes and you look good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Well you asked me to come looking decent,

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Speaker 2: or that's my t would have been out.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get started with you. Listen. This

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Speaker 1: season is season seven of the Real Housewives of Miami's

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Speaker 1: Off the Chain. But before we get into into that, obviously,

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Speaker 1: this season also has opened up you to the world

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Speaker 1: in terms of your backstory, and I, along with the audience,

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Speaker 1: we're so grateful and thankful that we are getting to

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit deeper. So just talk to

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Speaker 1: me about that, like what was your decision in telling

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Speaker 1: us like who key Key really is?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, we must free I'm so sorry,

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Speaker 2: comes father God Evernily King, We thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: What it is beautiful today. We are grateful for having

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Speaker 2: us here. Please guide us, help us speak only the truth.

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Speaker 2: Got us with widom, clarity, wisdom, clarity, and help us

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Speaker 2: to be honest and speak our truth. And for anybody

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Speaker 2: energy that has been sent to us, we ask you

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Speaker 2: to please rebuke it and help us help us. What's

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Speaker 2: what I'm looking for? Just help us transmute it and

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Speaker 2: bring everything back to a positive energy. I'm calling Okay

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Speaker 2: and John Michael to please guide us and protect us

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Speaker 2: and remove any blackages that we turn our way, and

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Speaker 2: help us only speak the truth, nothing but the truth.

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Speaker 2: Thank you God. Amen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, so you're very spiritual.

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Speaker 2: I am very spiritual, and I'm kind of weird a

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Speaker 2: lot of like I know, you guys see me on

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Speaker 2: the show where I'm super like fun, but I'm kind

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Speaker 2: of like a learner most of the time. Like I

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Speaker 2: held trees, speak to the beach. I can spend hours

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Speaker 2: I like spending time with myself. And yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm like a praier warrior too, and people don't really

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Speaker 2: phone it's all like praise. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you were doing as a little

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Speaker 2: I started, I started as a Christian and then yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't have anything else to rely on but prayers. And

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Speaker 2: I can manifest that through prayers. I get me through,

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Speaker 2: And especially now, I only really mainly lean on prayers now.

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Speaker 1: I know people find it, but no, I'm the same

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Speaker 2: For sure for sure, because I just God, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, yes, my mom's in heaven along with

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Speaker 1: my grandmother's grandfather's. My grandmother's birthday was yesterday. I told her, like,

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Speaker 1: happy birthday. I think you're celebrating. So I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think it keeps you connected to a to just

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Speaker 1: No, but I love that about it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't understand. All you have to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you are gorgeous, Like as a little Haitian girl,

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Speaker 2: Growing up in Haiti, I was always called Zopope, which

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Speaker 2: focus on the positivity because if two sides of people

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Speaker 2: So it become a dream like Okay, well here in Haiti,

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Speaker 2: But then there's another group that's like, when you go

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Speaker 2: been to space where I don't even know how I

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Speaker 1: Now you're doing so well, when you came to America,

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Speaker 1: How old were you?

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Speaker 2: I was thirteen going on fourteen, and I tell people

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Speaker 2: it's fourteen, but thirteen going on fourteen because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: it's like when you're like middle age, you big one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Was it a culture shock for you? Were you like,

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Speaker 1: Were you frightened when you came to America?

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Speaker 2: Was it? I was supposed to come here as well?

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Speaker 2: First of all, I was one of the smartest girl

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Speaker 2: in school in Haiti. I was like first in my class.

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Speaker 2: I was like one of those students that you skip

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Speaker 2: certain classes because I was so smart. You know. My dad,

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Speaker 2: my dad had his life together in Haity, was a businessman.

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Speaker 2: I was in private school. Life was good and Haiti.

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Speaker 2: So my dad's main thing was we're gonna bring her

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Speaker 2: to the US. Just I was supposed to come here

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Speaker 2: for three months. Three months, that's it. And when when

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Speaker 2: I decided to come and I stayed with my stepmother,

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Speaker 2: and I think when my dad ended up changing his mind,

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Speaker 2: then here I am now decided to be like, oh

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Speaker 2: we're going to school, we're staying here, and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, So you get your brains from your dad.

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Speaker 1: You think what your brains, your smartness, your business is

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm learning to become a business person, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, some of us we have to be the

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Speaker 2: face of the businesses. Not all of us were, you know,

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Speaker 2: But I've been. I've been the faces of many businesses,

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Speaker 2: And I'm surrounding myself with groups of people not that

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Speaker 2: to learn. And it's no. No question is a dumb

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Speaker 2: not afraid to ask questions. I always ask questions, and

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Speaker 2: I'll be a business woman some day. But right now

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Speaker 2: I'm learning.

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Speaker 1: When you came to America, where the.

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Speaker 2: Kids did you said America?

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Speaker 2: You said America America?

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Speaker 1: I think your mind I was English silent? Now you

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Speaker 2: The kids were always, oh, like general kids on my life,

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Speaker 1: Like was it? Were they nice to you? Did you

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Speaker 2: I remember the kids were nice in general. Because I

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Speaker 2: feel like when I came here as a teenager, it's

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I just I kind of started looking cute,

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Speaker 2: I don't They were not mean, okay, And I didn't

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Speaker 1: So wait, when you came to America from Haiti as

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Speaker 1: a thirteen and a half year old girl, you spoke

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Speaker 2: I don't speak French. I don't speak English. And mind

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Speaker 2: you and Haiti, if you don't speak French, it's almost

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Speaker 2: like you're like from the lowest class. That's how they

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Speaker 2: classify it. So I mean, my dad put me in

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Speaker 2: the best school. I could have learned friends, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know, I just felt like it was not easy.

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Speaker 2: I can read it, I can write it, but for

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Speaker 2: I was always a strong creol speaking person. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I came here the people were not

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Speaker 1: So how did you learn English.

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Speaker 2: From people's mouth? I mean a little bit in school,

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Speaker 2: but I tried to. Here's the thing with a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but look where you got me. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: He was like. I was like, yeah, that you kicked

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Speaker 2: Credit for That's not the best way to take credits,

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Speaker 1: What was modeling like for you, Like were you a

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Speaker 1: Guys, kick be clear clock that. So, how did the

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Speaker 2: She forgot that. She was like, oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: let's be clear, Miami Housewise is that girl. Yes, I

433
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: was speachless. This show was good. So I've been watching.

434
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very good girl.

435
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: No shade to the first iteration of it. The first

436
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: two or three seasons, I tried to get into it.

437
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: It just it just it's just no. But then it

438
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: was off the air for seven years and then it

439
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: came back and I'm like living in Miami at the time,

440
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I was living here. I was living here,

441
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, let me see these girls are doing.

442
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: And the first episode I said, oh, this show was everything.

443
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm surprised. I didn't know Gerdy referred

444
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: you to this show because you came in as Larcen's friends.

445
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: Well, there's your whole back story to it. Okay, it's

446
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: like your whole backstory. So when me and Gerty were

447
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: supposed to start the show everything, it was like, We're

448
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: so excited the two Haitian girl, we gotta gold with queens,

449
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: with this, with that, and then it kind of take

450
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: a left turn. I think part of it was because

451
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: like I, you know, I spoke cruel to her. That's

452
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: that's my understanding. I think she got upset with me.

453
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: The reason I think part of that is I spoke

454
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: Criel to her and and she did not like that.

455
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what her side is because I'm from

456
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing. There's a whole other side of it,

457
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: but this is my truth. And from that she just

458
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: decided she was like, well, I don't want to you know.

459
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: We were this was this on camera or.

460
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: It was off well, me speaking Creel to it was

461
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: on camera. I never made it to the exactly. But

462
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: then it just I was like, wow, we not together,

463
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: you know. I was just asking questions and I find

464
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: out like and I was like, okay, well the other

465
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: girls are my friends too, so and that's how I

466
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: ended up getting very close with larsa closer because I

467
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: had already know some of the girls. I got closer

468
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: to Larsa, a, Mayito and Alexia. And this is why

469
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: if you go back for the three seasons, you're gonna

470
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: always see Gerdie, Nicole, and Julia together.

471
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

472
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: And I was always with the other people, and this

473
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 2: is why now it's like, ok is kissing me. I'm like,

474
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: but if you look back. These are the girls that

475
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: I was always with, And it's not that I'm kissing

476
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: their follows. These girls not only they've been having my back,

477
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: but I fight them too. You don't get to see everything,

478
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: you know how it is like it's a big it's

479
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: a big gas Like it's like, what forty five minutes too,

480
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: it's big. You don't get to see everything. So, yeah,

481
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: that's what happened.

482
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: Did she explain to you why you spreaking creole to

483
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: her offended her?

484
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: Not really, you can ask her that. But so you

485
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 2: felt the distance, Well, it's not that there was a distance.

486
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: It was like I just felt like while we not, like,

487
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: wh are we not doing scenes? And I find out,

488
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: oh and just look back for the three season and

489
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 2: look back. But we worked it, we walk through it,

490
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: We'll walk through it fast forward to this season. We

491
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 2: were like, you know what, Nicole decided not to be around,

492
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: not to be around, and we were like, you know,

493
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: everyone's asking for both of us anyway the past. Let's

494
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: move forward and you're gonna see us a lot this season.

495
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: Everything is cool, Everything was supposed to be perfect until.

496
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: I do want to get into that because you know,

497
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: when we see and by we meaning me and the audience.

498
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: What I love about Miami especially is because of the

499
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: different cultures. And one of my favorite parts of Miami

500
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: is when Marisol and Alexia break off in their commonization

501
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: speaking Spanish, and I think, to me, as a person

502
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: who does not speak Spanish, I love.

503
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: That I'm even learning Spanish from them. I'm speak Spanish

504
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: to me.

505
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: I love it. I love when they break off and

506
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: they speak, you know, in their native language. So I'm

507
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: assuming with youtubeing Haitian, it was sort of like, oh,

508
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: that would be dope to see you two speaking, and.

509
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: Even if you did it, I would have loved to even,

510
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: like up straight like they say it like that. Like

511
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: I said, I love to learn, but maybe some people don't.

512
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 2: They don't like I don't know, but we're all different.

513
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you have been the fan favorite since the

514
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: show premiere. Everybody loves some Keiki. People have been begging

515
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: you to be full time, to have a mohedo. Well,

516
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: we saw the top of season seven it was you

517
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: diving into your personal story and honey, we all loved it.

518
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, we started to really

519
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: see this situation happen between Gerty and Julia U and

520
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: one of the biggest moments of the season obviously is

521
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: when Julia threw the drink towards Gertie's direction and everybody

522
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: like gag and you were in the middle of it.

523
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people and I even said this

524
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: to Kiky, just being honest, where we were like, oh, Kiki,

525
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like, you know, there's there are

526
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: people who have said.

527
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: Oh, trust me, I get the backlash, but I'm like,

528
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 2: I have no idea, So let me start with this.

529
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Gerty was always super close to Julia and Nicole. You've

530
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: seen it. I was always closer to the other girls,

531
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: not saying that we're all not friends. We're all friends,

532
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: but the other girls always mix space, like to make

533
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: sure that they get me with them, you know. So

534
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: what happened when I find so me and Gerty we decided,

535
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm just I decided. I was like, you know what,

536
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna pass. Let's move forward. We've been hanging out,

537
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: we have been I've seen her at events, We're taking pictures,

538
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: were posting together. We're good. And then now it's like

539
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: everybody was asking for me to have personal scenes and

540
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, you know, even though

541
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: you barely see me on that side, I was like,

542
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: come on, come on the boat, let's let's whatever do

543
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: our things. And I find out what you guys donna

544
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: see is that I find out that her and Julia

545
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: was having problems. Julia told me, Gertie told me, and

546
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, here's the two girls that I was not

547
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 2: the kind of like closest closest to. They were besties

548
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: at one point. So I feel like, as a friend

549
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: who's now in the middle, I'm always the one in

550
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: the middle of everything, and I said, I can bring

551
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: these two together. So at Mary'sol, even when I came

552
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: in and Gertie came in, I was hoping that they

553
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 2: could talk, and I sat down and between them as

554
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: you can see, hoping that everything will go the way

555
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: it goes. But I can contry what Julia decided to do.

556
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: Julia decided to do what she did, which was horrible,

557
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: by the way, horrible, and what you didn't see. We

558
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 2: all speak on it. It was horrible. But however I

559
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: got water thrown at me too. Carlos. I always tell

560
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: people this, what I did for Gertie is the exact

561
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: same thing I would have wanted a friend to do

562
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: for me. I've done a lot of healing on myself.

563
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: I've learned to remove myself from situation that can potentially

564
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: get worse. Now, however, other people could have throw punchees,

565
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: whatever they choose to do. That's them. But me what

566
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: I did in that moment, I got up, Alexei, I

567
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: take Julia. Gertie, come down. I'm even speaking quill to her.

568
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: Come down. Because when things like this happen right away,

569
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like I'm a thinker, I'm a Gemini. It's

570
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: a to the next step. First thing I'm thinking is

571
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: this is marysol wedding. Mary Sool is not gonna live.

572
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: Alexia is the one putting the event together for Marisol.

573
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: Alexi is not gonna live. Larsa has been friends with

574
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: them for so long. She's not gonna live. Julia is

575
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: now best with Alexia. No one's gonna leave Gertie. I'm

576
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: willing to live with you. Let's remove ourselfs Come.

577
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: On, you told Gerdy I'm willing to leave with you.

578
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: I grab her, babe, Let's go. I said it to

579
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: Crell to her. So you've seen it. You see the clip.

580
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: Let's go Calm down, babe. When I say calm down,

581
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: not because she's aggressive, not because she's screaming, it's calmed down,

582
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: let's go. I got wet too. I could have go

583
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: to hell with Julia. But in that moment, why make

584
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: it worse when it's already the worst. That's how I think. Now,

585
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: if anybody else think how they think, that's them. But

586
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: that's how I think, because Carlos, I I was raised

587
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: pretty much on the street. I've seen some fu somebody

588
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: throw somebody at someone. Next minute, it's like you say

589
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: something and then boom you get Now you're in the hospital,

590
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: now you're dead. So I've learned. I've done the healing

591
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: to learn to remove myself from situations like that, And

592
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: if anybody else want to do otherwise, feel free to

593
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: do it. But I did what I would want someone

594
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: to do for me. Now my thing is, even though

595
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: I remove myself, you decided to stay. You stay told

596
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: everybody toss the whole thing mind you. I was fine

597
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: with Gerd Carlos throughout the whole season. Even when episode

598
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: one came out, we were talking. Episode two came out,

599
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: we were at an even together for Netflix, taking photos

600
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: posting episode three came out and I was like, Okay,

601
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: I saw it. I said, I feel like, let me

602
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: call her to check on her, because this type of things,

603
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: when you have to relieve it, it's not easy to have

604
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: to rewatch yourself. I called her. She didn't pick up.

605
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: She returned, Michael, Oh my god, hey, babes, I was

606
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: just calling to make sure that you know, I know

607
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: how you have to watch your show again to relieve it.

608
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: Have you seen the episode. I'm so sorry this happened.

609
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: She just went, uh, I'll call you back. This was

610
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: the last time I heard from Gertie. Okay. So, and

611
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: that's when the threat started. That's when I'm being called

612
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm being called racist. Also, I don't all the Haitian

613
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: people are on mind right now. How dare you not

614
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: helping this? How dare you not? But I'm like, wow, yeah,

615
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: so yep. And I'm not telling you this to feel

616
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: sorry for me.

617
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: It just nosten to somebody who is a producer of

618
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: reality television, and you're talking to somebody who knows how

619
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: that ecosystem works when it comes to social media. So

620
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: you're not listen. You're no one's victim, and you're such

621
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: a strong woman. I feel horrible that. Look what you

622
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: said to me makes a lot of sense. That's that's

623
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: the choice you made in the moment you were there.

624
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: We were not listen you said it. People would have

625
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: done things differently. What I think I'm just shocked at

626
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: because I didn't know this obviously was the fact.

627
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen me aggressive? I'm always been the

628
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: one like guys like, unless you piss me off, I

629
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: say what I need to say and then I let

630
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: it go. Yeah, because all of that is energy, and

631
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: I don't give that away for free. My energy is

632
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: my money. That's my cash in the spiritual realm, I'm

633
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: rich and uping realm, and I don't give away that

634
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: for free. Or I don't give that away for free.

635
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: I don't give away that for So that's why I don't.

636
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: I let things go, and you're not gonna find me

637
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: set media on there ever we coming. I don't do

638
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: it because I know my truth.

639
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: What I what I'm surprised is because again I didn't

640
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: know this was the fact that after that incident happened.

641
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to ask you too, like, did you

642
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: did I'm sorry, did Gerdy ever come to you after

643
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: that moment happened in real time and say, I felt you.

644
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: You didn't do this for me.

645
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: She did, she did, and I told her, I said, look,

646
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: I cannot believe you are even calling me a bad friend.

647
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: And mind you, at that moment, Gerdy knew that she

648
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: didn't know I was getting death threats, but she knew

649
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: that the ment like I was getting, like the anxiety

650
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: and depression was like I had a high peak because

651
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: of that I'm going through. I was going through with families. So,

652
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: like I said, what Julia did was unspeakable. But sometimes

653
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: just because you don't speak about your battles and this

654
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: is our people mistreat people because just because you look happy,

655
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: you're trying to be there for the person son and

656
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: they just assume you have nothing going on. I was

657
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 2: in my dark cast moment. Okay, I'm sure you probably

658
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: started episode. I was already going through that. None of

659
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: the girls know because I don't like to dump my

660
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: on other people. But I did kind of tell Gerty

661
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: even way before, girl, I don't know what's going on,

662
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: but the anxiety the depression is like and I remember

663
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: she was telling me about her the heat things she have,

664
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: uh which which I sympathize with her. What is it,

665
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: you know when you get the heat wave.

666
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: Like all the menopause no flashes.

667
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember she was telling me that too.

668
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, man, this is a lot,

669
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: you know. So we talk about that. I was going

670
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: through my while all of that was happening, and I'm like,

671
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: I just I just need to live. You don't want

672
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: to leave. I asked her, let's go, because I was

673
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: willing to live with her. Do you think and the

674
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: other girls on My Friend too, I'm like, let's all

675
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: live with you, let's go.

676
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Do you think because obviously you and Gerty are the

677
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: two black women on this show A mocks non black

678
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: women and this white woman throws drinks on the two

679
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: black girls on the show. Do you think the audience

680
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: wanted to see just the two of you have solidarity,

681
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: come together as one. And because we didn't see that that,

682
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: people are now blaming you. They're saying that you're kissing

683
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: up to the white girls. In the Spanish girls on

684
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: the show, they said you did not have Gertie's back

685
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: like a real sister. What do you have to say

686
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: to those people who feel like you did not stand

687
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: up for your black sister.

688
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: Listen, they are monitoring spirits, okay, because when you done

689
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: so much chilling on yourself, you getting into a timeline

690
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 2: where everything is like going good for you. People will

691
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: try to come to just and I don't let this

692
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: thing attract I don't let all these negative comments. I

693
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: don't even let them affect me. But my thing is

694
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: these people can think however they want to think at

695
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: the end of the day, as a human being, I

696
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: know what I did. It was from my heart and

697
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: it is what it is. If they want to do

698
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: something differently, that's them. And I understand they want to

699
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: see the two black girls together, yes, but at the

700
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: same time, do you also want to just want to

701
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: see the two black girls that get because you have

702
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: to understand for me also, it's a trauma thing when

703
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 2: things like this. It could have been anyone in the cast,

704
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: not just Gerty. I would have done the same thing.

705
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: That's the way I need to put it. It could

706
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: have been anybody that would have been my exact same reaction.

707
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: So they want to see me throwing punches. I'm not

708
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: gonna be fake. I got wet too, But just because

709
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: I got wet, I also know that that water was

710
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: not aim at me, So me punching Julia, remove yourself

711
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: in the situation, because we'll have plenty of time to

712
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: speak to Julia. And people are gonna get mad at

713
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: you regardless if you don't do what they expect you

714
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: to do. Carlos, what can I do? After that whole incident,

715
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: she didn't call me. I was like waiting on a call,

716
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: and then I'm starting like guessing, like, Okay, maybe if

717
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: something else happened or you know, because I'm like, I

718
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: don't know, we live, You're gonna see like nothing happened

719
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: the whole season with her. And I actually was closer

720
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: to her this season than any of the other girls

721
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: that I was even closer to, And not until I

722
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: saw a post that an interview that she did. And

723
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: then on the interview there was a comment that was

724
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: made that she made and somebody wrote it down and

725
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: posted say said by Gertie, and the thing said that

726
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: I tried to hold her hand and portray her as

727
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: the angry black woman. I was like, what, I'm like,

728
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: It's one thing you being called racist by the audience,

729
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: they don't know it's okay, But for you now to

730
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: even take it to the next step by making it

731
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: seems like I'm also an actual isn't that what you mean?

732
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: You're American? That's that's pretty much saying that I'm she.

733
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: So you're saying Gertie made a comment saying that during

734
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: that moment to.

735
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: Read it to you, I haven't sure I'll show it

736
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: to you.

737
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So she made a comment about you. You're you

738
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: holding her hand and you were pretty much trying to

739
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: make her seem like the angry black woman. And for you,

740
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: as a black woman, you just felt like, wow, it's

741
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: one thing for the audience to think one thing about me.

742
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Now you're pushing You know, you and I both know

743
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: what this is.

744
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: Like. This is not funny. Do you know how hurtful

745
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: it is to have Haitian people calling you non Haitian

746
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: when you're like the most Haitian person.

747
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: You know, the Haitian community is upset with.

748
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: You pretty much a lot. You know, it's it's and

749
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: it's like wow, because I've always been very Haitian. It's

750
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: not a competition. But anyone who knows me know I

751
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: stand up for my country. I'm all Haitian, Like I

752
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: will go to Hadi for breakfast and come back for dinner.

753
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: And it's like it's one thing for the audience defense

754
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: to speculate whatever or think whatever they think, but for

755
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: you to know where we at. And then you went

756
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: on and made that comment. That's when I was like, Okay,

757
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 2: I see what's going on here?

758
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, when was, well, we know you I tape the reunion,

759
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: so but prior to the region taping, when was the

760
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: last time you and Gertie spoke?

761
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: Well, at the reunion, I say what I needed to say,

762
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: and then after that, I kind of like I said,

763
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm the type of person one s I sea my

764
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: truth and I'm like, okay, I'm over it. I don't

765
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: hold That's why I'm always going to look young. I

766
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: don't want to grudge this, you know. So you know,

767
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: normally after renial we all kind of like, you know,

768
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 2: so I went to her and say hi and whatever,

769
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 2: and that was the last time I spoke to her.

770
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: You recently unfollowed Gerdy.

771
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: Why I unfollowed her? And a lot of people are

772
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: speculating that it was after the region it was before

773
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: the reunion. I think people find out after it was before,

774
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 2: and part of it was because of that comment. Because

775
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, now I see you for who you are,

776
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: because this was not the way to go about it.

777
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: I didn't like that comment at all because if anyone

778
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: know me, I'm not racist and don't want to be

779
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: portrayed like that. And it's up. It's up, and I'm

780
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: not here playing victim or anything. It's up. Especially I'm like,

781
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: what's the issue here? We know we gotta throw shed,

782
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: we all got to do this and that. But what

783
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: did I do to you to make you to make

784
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: me to make you you know what I'm trying.

785
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: To say, Yeah, no, to make you say something, but

786
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: sometimes you know.

787
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: And I decided to unfollow because I was like, sometimes

788
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: you just need a break. You just don't want to

789
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: You just need to cut that cord for a second

790
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: and breathe and regroup. So I need a break.

791
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: Gertie responded and said, oh, I didn't know that, and

792
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: I see that I'm not following you either. Did you

793
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: block me?

794
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: Yes?

795
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: So you blocked Gertie.

796
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I told you for me to.

797
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: Listen, like, I love your honesty. Yeah, you blocked that.

798
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: I block a lot of people too, like many many people,

799
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: And I always tell people this, like I don't normally

800
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: unfollow people or black people, not black people, block lock.

801
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Black people.

802
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: But it takes a lot like for me to like

803
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: get because I'm always like the one like you know.

804
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: Of course, like I said, I can be tough. When

805
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: someone says something to me, my comeback will always be

806
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: like oh, But then I'm like, let it go. We're good. Now,

807
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: we're good. But once I feel like, deep down, even

808
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: if I had done something to you, was it really

809
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: that heavy for you to call me a racist?

810
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Now?

811
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: And I'm your own imagine, imagine I call you a

812
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: racist right now. It's it's worse. It's one thing to

813
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: call a white person racist, but it's another thing when

814
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: you call your own black person.

815
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm Aliston. I'm being racists before. No, now,

816
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: so I can't imagine. Let's I will say this. I

817
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: love Gertype.

818
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: Surely I've experienced racism too, and I'm like, really, yeah, okay, No, it.

819
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: Had to hurt because listen, I love Gerty, I love you.

820
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: I love the fact that it was two Haitian women

821
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: on the show. And look, it doesn't mean still.

822
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: To Haitian women on the show.

823
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: Yes, and of course listen, as a black person we

824
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: were like, yes, like we want you all to be

825
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: a team, and I'm just being very honest with you. Listen,

826
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: we know that in some situations. It doesn't mean y'all

827
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: can't not disagree, but I think for all of us

828
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: we want some solidarity. We do want you guys to

829
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: just you know, be respectful, and it does hurt.

830
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: We do that. But the problem is people need to

831
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: understand not everyone go around throwing punches not. We're all different,

832
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: all nine of us. We make this group work because

833
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: of different personalities. Okay, I can be like Alexia, like

834
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: I can't. She's like, you know me, I'm more like whoa.

835
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: You know, some of us are here and some of

836
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 2: us are like calm down, like not or not all

837
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: of us can be like Rise because we all have

838
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: different personalities. Some people are controat and some people are

839
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: a little bit more among the chill side. I don't

840
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: respond to things that people do with being more aggressive, unless,

841
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: like I said, sometimes I get out of and I'm like, okay,

842
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: calm down, fix it. That's why I'm always the first

843
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: one to apologize. Whether people are like oh yeah, she's

844
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: always kissing, She's apologized. Listen, Sometimes you just got to

845
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: be the bigger person, because when you know, when you

846
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: apologize to someone, it actually helps you, not them. I agree,

847
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: and people like, I'm not gonna apologies. I'm gonna hold

848
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: it and we'll hold it in. That's why you're gonna

849
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: keep getting all sort of diseases and all this and

850
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: that because you're holding too many things. And how about

851
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: you go by the bitch start screaming me Because I'm

852
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: not shy. I will literally go and hugge tree and

853
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: talk to the tree and be like take all my

854
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 2: pans away. And people look at me like I'm crazy.

855
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, yeah, but guess what I feel light inside? Yeah,

856
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: you got to learn to release and let go. You

857
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: can't judge everyone just by the way you will want to. Okay,

858
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: how can I say it? You know how like let's say,

859
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: right now, somebody do something to you. You will break this.

860
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: You can't expect everyone to do the same thing that

861
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: you will do.

862
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, So listen, what you're trying to say

863
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: is this, you can't expect everyone. I understand the reaction

864
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: that you would have.

865
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: I understand the fan where disappointed. They wanted me to

866
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: do more. But in that moment I thought I was

867
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: doing more just because you want me to. You know,

868
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: it just not within me. And like I said, I

869
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: would have done the exact same thing with anyone. It's

870
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: not a girty thing. It's not added this thing or

871
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: that thing. That's how I am because I've done so

872
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: much healing on myself. I don't get to that level.

873
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: I try to fix situation unless I'm really, really, really pissed.

874
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: You're gonna see that side of me, and then I'm

875
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: the first. Just take me and Lisa as an example.

876
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: Last year, you know, people was like going off calling

877
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: Lisa all sort of nonsense. You know what I was doing.

878
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: I was online. No, don't say this about her. She's

879
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: not racist. Come on, guys, we're a group of friends.

880
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: No Lisa, Lisa, She's no way. But imagine if I

881
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, yeah, you know, and that's my truth.

882
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: Some people will do different and that's them speaking of Lisa.

883
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: Is Lisa always that late? I don't know, Listena, I

884
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: don't know too many people, Kiki that will miss a

885
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: flight to Spain, maybe have to catch another plane and

886
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: then a train and an automobile and a scooter. Like

887
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: what is she like is that exaggerated.

888
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Lisa is always gonna be Lisa. Okay,

889
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: I've come to realize that Lisa, and I'm just gonna

890
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: accept her. You know, if you can change them, I'm

891
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: not trying to change anyone. Sometimes you just have to

892
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: adjust to the person. When you try so hard it's

893
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: not working, you just suggest them.

894
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Whose side are you on between the Larsa and Lisa beefs, Like,

895
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: do you think Lisa should unfollow Marcus? And do you

896
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: understand where lars is coming from? Or do you think

897
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: lars is over exaggerating.

898
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm actually on Larsa's side, and I'm gonna explain

899
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: why I'm on Lars's side only because Larsa introduced Lisa

900
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: to Marcus, just like Larsa introduced me to Marcus. I

901
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: was following Marcus. Marcus was following me also, even though

902
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: when Larsa and Marcus broke up, Larsa and I were

903
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: not in a great place. Like like I said, everybody

904
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: thinks I'm like always like with the girls, but they

905
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: don't understand I fight these girls too. You don't see everything.

906
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: Larsa and I was not in the best place, so

907
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: I was like, no, because she introduced me to him,

908
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: it will be weird to even stay in touch with him,

909
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 2: because at the end of day, this is my friend.

910
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: Women not be in the best of places, but this

911
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: is my friend. So I don't follow Marcus without even

912
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: lars I even have to ask me. But with Lisa,

913
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: I think Lisa should have done the same thing. Now

914
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: with Jody, that's a different story. Jodey is a man.

915
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Lisa cannot control his decision. He built up a friendship

916
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: with Marcus, that's them. But Lisa, however, her loyalty I

917
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: feel like because Larsa was the one that introduced Listen,

918
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: if you introduced me to the person you break up

919
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: with them, are bringing up with them too?

920
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: Period?

921
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: That's it. That's that's you know.

922
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

923
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. So just like we love Todd when he was

924
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: with Alexia, now we can hit that. We love Lenny,

925
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: now we hit Lenny. I'm that type of friend. You're

926
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: with them, I love everything about them. You're not with them.

927
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: I hate their gods. I'll probably just go out and

928
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: when I see it, I'll be like, you are what's

929
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: a horrible person I've ever met in my life?

930
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: Do you think Todd and a lexiy I, well get

931
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: back together?

932
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, really positive. The thing is with Alexi,

933
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: I feel like she needed even though all of us

934
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: were like this, this isn't that and blah blah blah blah.

935
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: I think she was not ready. She's like me, the

936
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: whole world can tell you do this and do that.

937
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: Unless you're ready, you're not gonna do it. And I

938
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 2: think she's at that space now where she's like, you

939
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: know what, I'm ready and she did it. Yeah, so

940
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: now we're both single.

941
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: You're a single.

942
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

943
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: You don't have a man. No, you don't have like

944
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: a like you know, do you have a benefactor?

945
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: What the.

946
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: Okay?

947
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: Sound like that person? And then when you died?

948
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: Okay? So a bee factor is when you have a

949
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: man that you know you guys, aren't boyfriend, girlfriend, but

950
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: he takes care of you. He gives you money, cars,

951
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: Because I'm beautiful and supposed to have someone taking care

952
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: of me.

953
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: Get you back to reality.

954
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: All the beautiful women in my life that I know,

955
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: they all have a benefactor.

956
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: Let me explain it to you. I broke off my

957
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: engagement three years ago when I like two weeks before

958
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: I started the show because that was like three four years.

959
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, three years ago, no, like yeah, yeah, like.

960
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Three three years yeah. So like when I started the show,

961
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: I had just broke off my engagement, and after that,

962
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: I did it people, but I just couldn't really connect

963
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: with him because for me, it can't just be about

964
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: looks and money. At one point it used to be that,

965
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 2: but then I'm like, I've grown, you know, myself. And

966
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: then after that, I feel like from all my previous

967
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: relationship it was always like, you broke up with this one,

968
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 2: someone's already in line. You broke up with that one,

969
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: two weeks later, you're already with someone. I'm talking about

970
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 2: serious relationship, like serious relationship. I will be with this

971
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: one for five years as soon as I break up

972
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: with them. Then I get with this one a week later,

973
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: and I stayed with them for three years. And then

974
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: do one from five years now. I say, oh, we

975
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: only broke up for one week. I want to get

976
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: back with you. I'm like, well, too late, because I'm

977
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: already with that one. So it was kind of like that.

978
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: And then after I broke up my engagement, I was like,

979
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe don't get into anything serious, start

980
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: dating here and there and see. So I started going

981
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: out on dates and then I saw that didn't work.

982
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: And if you watch the last season, I said, oh,

983
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: I ended up meeting that nice guy in LA And

984
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: then I find out this guy, even though he was

985
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: with me, we broke up. He went to his girlfriend

986
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: and he broke up with her. Then tried to come

987
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: back and be like, oh, I broke up with her,

988
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: Can I get back with you? I was like, no, No,

989
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to

990
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: take that time and heal myself, find myself because I

991
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: find out the problem is me. I keep blaming everyone. Oh, yeah,

992
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: you're wrong, You're wrong. But meanwhile I'm like, why do

993
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: I always scape from this one to that one? And

994
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: then they all last longer, But still why do I

995
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: keep doing it? So I was like, let me take

996
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: time for myself. So I decided to take some time

997
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: for myself. And of course, and taking time for myself,

998
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: it was the whole vibrated thing too. I was like yeah,

999
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: and then after a while he gets lonely and then

1000
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: I was like no, then I just want celibate, focus

1001
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: on my spirituality and I've been celebrated. Yeah, since last year.

1002
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: You've been celebated for a year, for over year, for

1003
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: over a year.

1004
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: Actually March was a year.

1005
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you miss it now?

1006
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,479
Speaker 2: Because when you're focused now, become more like I want

1007
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: my kingdom spouse. Like I wanted to do the work

1008
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: on myself to really ground myself. Another thing, also, I

1009
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: feel like I was very copend copend.

1010
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm called dependent co dependent.

1011
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: And I just was like, you know what if I

1012
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: start doing the things that I want other people to

1013
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: do for me, and I started to do them for myself,

1014
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: then I went to force people to do it because

1015
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: I'm already doing it for me, so I will attract

1016
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: what I'm doing. So I'm like, go, take off your

1017
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: own bill, take care of your car notes, take care

1018
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: of your kids, take care of this, and now domains

1019
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: are coming. They all got that together and it's me

1020
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know yet if I'm

1021
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: ready because I'm doing everything. I buy myself flowers, I

1022
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: go out on dates. You if you ever seen me

1023
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: at a restaurant, buy myself being dinner. I don't think

1024
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm crazy because I do it all the time. I

1025
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: have lunch by myself. I go to the beach. But

1026
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: everything that I would want I used to want someone

1027
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: to do for me. I do it for myself. Yeah,

1028
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: and that's my thing now so and I'm enjoying it.

1029
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm looking younger, finer. No one is stressing me out.

1030
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: My kids are getting wealth and I'm doing it all

1031
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: on my own. No stress.

1032
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: You look good.

1033
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: I look really good. I'm sorry, thank you. I should

1034
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: think I should say I know, because why I'm like,

1035
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: why is it? Thank you?

1036
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: And I already know, like everybody should feel that way. Yeah,

1037
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: who's the most famous guy you dated?

1038
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: Oh? I can't say how famous? Is he very famous?

1039
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: Is he still on TV?

1040
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: Some of them are famous, but some of them are

1041
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: just high profile that I still can't say.

1042
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 1: Politics or movies or TV?

1043
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: Politics, movies not TV? Well movies are TV? Right?

1044
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: Music?

1045
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: Music? Yeah, but in the music, not the music.

1046
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: Not the artist.

1047
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1048
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me an initialw no lot of it gave

1049
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: us NBJ.

1050
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: We all thought it was Michael Jackson or Michael whatever,

1051
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: and she, well, we got it right at the end.

1052
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: She was right.

1053
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: I thought it was Marchael Blixon.

1054
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: Buck Black, but I love her. Listen, this season is

1055
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: so great. I happen to love Stephanie. I love this season.

1056
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: I happen to love Stephanie, but there's like this love

1057
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: hate with Stephanie. What can you tell us about her

1058
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: that we may not be seeing on you know the show?

1059
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: Like do you like Stephanie?

1060
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: I mean, let me tell you something. I feel like

1061
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: sometimes you guys forget that. Sometimes I'm like, oh my god,

1062
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: I feel like nobody's listening to me. I'm not being hurt,

1063
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: so it's not you know, and I know girls saying

1064
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: this now too, but I'm like, I've been saying that

1065
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: too sometimes, like nobody listened to me. Nobody does nobody that.

1066
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: But Stephanie came came on. She went on and said,

1067
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: I actually I like you, but I think you talk

1068
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: too much about it. And I was like, well, welcome

1069
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: to the group. She came like the first thing she

1070
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: said to me, you talk too much about PEPPI. I'm like,

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00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: she was, I love you, and she was like, I

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00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: freaking love you. And she was like, look, you know what,

1073
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: I want to do something nice for you. I want

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00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: to do this and do that, blah blah blah blah,

1075
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: and she was just nice and I was like, oh, okay,

1076
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: well this is what happened. When you start doing the

1077
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: healing work on yourself, people just start dropping, like you

1078
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: got a car, you had a car, not that she

1079
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: gave me a car, but you know what I mean,

1080
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: would I will take that dinner burken too.

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00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: That no.

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00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: Part of my healing is learned not to say no,

1083
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: except don't listen. If you don't count on me saying no,

1084
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: I will not everything. Yes, yes, please, can you make

1085
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: that double? Matter of fact, triple it. I'll take it.

1086
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: I'll take it to go.

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00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you.

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: Stepan is amazing. I think she's a very great addition

1089
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: to the group. She coming in hot, she's very strong.

1090
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: But I also think you know her working also, like

1091
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: she said, like she's like a very hard business woman.

1092
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 2: And you know, I love like that because I get

1093
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 2: to learn a little bit from each one of them,

1094
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: you know, believe it or not, I learned a little

1095
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: bit from every single one of the girls, whether they

1096
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: like it or not. I learned a little bit about everybody,

1097
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: not about from everyone.

1098
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been this big debate about who's the most

1099
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: narcissistic person on the show.

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00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think we all have a little

1101
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: bit of narcissistic thread threat and us. But well, all

1102
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: I know, I'm not the most narcissistic one.

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00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: Who is it?

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00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think some of them are literally

1105
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: like head to head, like right there, like who's gonna win?

1106
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: There's no space in between. Well, we have a few

1107
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: in the group.

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00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, how are things going with your son? Because I

1109
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 1: love seeing your children on the show.

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01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: God, he's good. I'm actually dropping them off tomorrow because

1111
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: he's going He was here on for the summer at home.

1112
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: So he's going back to school for his second year

1113
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: now his sophomore year, which they're getting nicer home dorm

1114
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: or whatever. I've never been to college, nicer dorms and stuff.

1115
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: So I'm so proud. And tomorrow for him, I have

1116
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: to get up and drive him to school, and I'm

1117
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: missing already. Yeah. But my daughter started kindergarten today and

1118
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: she came home. She was like, Mom, I didn't get it.

1119
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: Was so excited we didn't have to go to sleep

1120
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: to that. I said, no, you're not going to go

1121
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: to sleep. This is no longer daycare. You and big

1122
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: girls school. Now. You wanted to go to big girls

1123
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: school so bad. She was so excited that she didn't

1124
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: have to go to sleep. She's like, we didn't have

1125
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: to go to sleep. Yeah, she started school today.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations. Seriously, being a mom, I think is the most

1127
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: important job in the world.

1128
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, a mom is very important. But it's very tough,

1129
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: especially it's a single mom because I've been taking care

1130
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: of my son since he was four years old. Like,

1131
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: his dad does not give one sense. And I remember

1132
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago I finally was like, well,

1133
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe I need to put you in

1134
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: back Chelsea. But he was like, well if you do that,

1135
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: guess what, I can actually get more money out of

1136
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: you now, Because I was like, okay, let's forget about

1137
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: this conversation.

1138
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah damn yeah, he is his father. Do they speak

1139
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: or he just now they speak.

1140
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: He loved his dad more than me, probably because since

1141
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 2: four years old, every single birthday, Christmas or I didn't

1142
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: say every Christmas for like many years, but whatever holidays,

1143
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: I will literally buy him gifts and say, your dad's

1144
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: on you this, your dad's in your money. Your dad.

1145
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: Because I was always the top that don't want the

1146
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: kid because it's not the fault. I didn't want the

1147
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: kid to think that his dad he's like not a

1148
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: good dad. Now we understands he's seeing the different, like

1149
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: I'm paying for this college, all the fees and stuff.

1150
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: So now he's like whoa, because you have to call

1151
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: me for everything. But before that, he love his dad.

1152
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: And I think, even though you know, doubt that is,

1153
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: that doesn't really help because he loves him so much,

1154
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: because I've never made the dad look bad, and that's

1155
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: with both of my kids. Why why mess up the kids'

1156
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: mental health for your own choosing the wrong men. It's

1157
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: not therefore, and it was not about choosing the wrong

1158
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: men because my son was born out of love. It

1159
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: was like playing like we're gonna have a baby, gonna this.

1160
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: It's just that just didn't work out. And some men

1161
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 2: just want to hold and I think I always peak

1162
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: the wrong man. Also because of my dad, if you see,

1163
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: he's a player, like and this is why I needed

1164
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: to do healing on myself and take time off and say,

1165
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: you know what, if you start doing the work on yourself,

1166
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna stop attracting these holes or this.

1167
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah good for you, Yeah, good for you. That's very very,

1168
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: very smart and wise.

1169
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: Why were you so surprised that I'm celebrated you crazy

1170
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: because let's.

1171
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: Say you are gorgeous and you want to check. I mean,

1172
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure college you can, but because I'm sure

1173
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: there's all around, you know, throwing at you. Child Home Deeple,

1174
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, well, I.

1175
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: Love home Deepot, but the whole house.

1176
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: Mela Delilah's kikiS on the river.

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01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 2: I don't those type of I don't even want. Those

1178
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: are not the places that, even if I have to

1179
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: find the men that I will go to. And plus

1180
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm in a space now like I don't even want

1181
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: to go find one. They're finding me period.

1182
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, list said last question for you, would you like

1183
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: to be a full time housewife?

1184
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: You know, I came in on the show knowing that

1185
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: I was going to be a friend of and I'm like,

1186
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: I don't understand the concept. A lot of people always like, oh,

1187
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: she's just fighting this because she's trying so hard to

1188
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: be a man cast. I'm like, I'm so happy that

1189
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: God is blessing me that I'm around a nice group

1190
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: of friends I can call upon. We can cry together,

1191
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: laugh together, and do things together like this is exciting.

1192
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: Whether I'm a friend or make cast, nothing happened before

1193
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: it's time, and what do I have to lose, So

1194
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: it's better to start here and you can only go

1195
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: up from there. I'm always gonna look at it to deposit,

1196
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: so but I have no desire. If it happened, thank God,

1197
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: this is great, Thank you God, thanks for the blessing.

1198
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't, I am grateful that I get

1199
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: to spend time with my friends and I get to

1200
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: do things I get. I don't get it, like listen,

1201
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: if it happened, I'm happy. If it doesn't happen, I

1202
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: am as happy as to where I am because I'm

1203
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: enjoying every single bit of it. And that's on my soul.

1204
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you the truth.

1205
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: I see it. Thank you, Kiki. That wasn't so bad,

1206
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: was it?

1207
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: It was so horrible, Gertie the whole half of the time.

1208
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, My love, ladies and Jalapan Key key bart Yeah.

1209
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

1210
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

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01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,240
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