1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is how men think with growths like and Gavin 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: to grab and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: episode of How men think. My name is Brooks like 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: and another unique episode today. As we do it remotely, 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: I can't see him, but I can hear him, and 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: he sounds as handsome as ever. Mr Gavin de garras, 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: what's up, buddy man? I feel Brookes. I'm doing good, 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: but how are you? Man? Just just digesting the weird 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: times we're in? Isn't it wild? So outrageous and bizarre, unpredictable? 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: You know? I asked my dad, my dad see, I said, Dad, 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: you ever see anything like this? He said, never, never, 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: anything similar, nothing even close. Isn't it wild? It's absolutely 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: It's like absolutely bananas. Man. The whole world is on 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: high alert. The whole world pretty much is almost on lockdown. 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: It's a phenomenal and devastating event, like this is something 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: that will go down, Like going to the grocery store. 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: I have gloves on, I'm wearing a mask, I have 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: my hood over my head, standing six ft apart from 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: each other, waiting to enter the grocery store, one in, 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: one out, like I'll never pick up groceries. Yeah, put 21 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: my hockey gear on and go to the grocery store. Um. Yeah, man, 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that feeling and and you know, and 23 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: seeing bare aisles and so grateful right now for one, 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: the health care workers, the people that are taking care, 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: risking their own lives, taking care of people who have 26 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. And to um, the rest of the support staff, 27 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: the people, the clerks at the grocery store, the people 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: that ship the food, the people that keep this world 29 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: running and keep us alive in these times. I pray 30 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: every single meal for the protection and the guidance and 31 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: the support of those people. Um. It's amazing. Yeah, it's 32 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: amazing to see some of the best of humanity come 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: forward in a time of crisis. Yeah, I agree with you. Man, 34 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Well we'll put it's uh if you can only you 35 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: can only appreciate it when things get bad, you know 36 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: what I mean? Man, where are you? That's when they 37 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: step up? Where you at my house in Nashville, and uh, 38 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: I live downtown, so things are really peculiar, you know. Uh. 39 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of people they have you know, they 40 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: live outside in the country or the suburbs or you know. Um, 41 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: but I live in the epicenter of tourism in Nashville, Tennessee, 42 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: and I'm used to hearing music blaring up and down 43 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: the streets here and and seeing bats red parties and 44 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: everybody you know, rocking their cowboy hats in their cowboy 45 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: boots and partying and taking fettle taverns up down the 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: street and hanging at at our bar, and bands playing 47 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: live everywhere, and people laying out by the pool. And 48 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: it is absolutely a ghost town. And at this point, um, 49 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's a park near me, and 50 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: there's always been like a high concentration of homeless folks 51 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: in that park and that hasn't ended. That's still there. 52 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: So when you go outside now, there's a higher population 53 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: of homeless walking around in that area and on the 54 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: streets than there are people with uh with jobs or 55 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: with or with homes. It's really it's just it's just 56 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: upside down around here. It's just it's just absolutely it's 57 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: absolutely twilight zone. It's crazy. Hey, it's just even like 58 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: l a play is just like there's nobody on the freeways, 59 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: there's nobody in town. And it's great, Like I love 60 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: that people are practicing the social distancing and the safer 61 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: at home and staying at home. Um, trying to like 62 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: curve this and end this as soon as possible. I 63 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: love the people are doing it, but man does it 64 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: create an eerie feeling. But the more space you see, 65 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: the less people you see out Like I remember a 66 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago they gave the safer at Home 67 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: order in l A, encouraging people to stay at home 68 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: and Runyon Canyon, all the hiking trails, the beaches. Everything 69 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: was still just slammed. Um people weren't. Yeah, because businesses 70 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: have shut down. People were supposed to be at home, 71 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: but then they were. They were out and about because 72 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: the weather was great. They wanted to be active until 73 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: they really got the scope of how how serious this 74 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: thing is, this coronavirus is, and then have now taken 75 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: upon themselves and and are staying at home. So it's 76 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: nice to see people and hearing for that. Yeah, I 77 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: I agree with you, But you know, for for people 78 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: who live in apartment buildings and stuff like that, I mean, 79 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't see how you are really how you can 80 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: really feel safe if you need to go outside the 81 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: walk your dog, um, because you know you're gonna hop 82 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: an elevator if you live above you know, six floors, 83 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: you know, um, and what do you do? Like? You know, 84 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: I just I just saw a guy. I was on 85 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: my way down to walk the dog, um and uh, 86 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, I saw a guy got un friendly within 87 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: the building and uh, you know, the door opened up 88 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: on his floor and I said, sorry, bro, man, I'll 89 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: send it back up. You know what I mean, to 90 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: your floor, because you know, you can't can't be sharing 91 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: an elevator with somebody that's not exactly room to roam 92 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: in there. And and uh he was like yeah, man, 93 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: no problem, no problem. And I saw him outside. I 94 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: bumped in on him again. He goes hey, man, I said, hey, dude, 95 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: sorry about that. He goes hey. He goes I don't 96 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: want to have to take you off my playlist. I said, actually, man, 97 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: will do you take my phone number down? Because it's 98 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: just in case it hits the fan around here. We 99 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: need to be able to contact each other. It was 100 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: like absolutely on that playlist. Get them all those royalties again. 101 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I get you though. That's one thing. Unfortunately 102 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: having a home, we just have a private entrance. Um. 103 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, if you're in a if you're in an 104 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: apartment building or condo building, my heart goes out to you. 105 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: But even when I go out, if I go out anywhere, 106 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm going with a face mask and I'm going with 107 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: latex gloves on. Um every single time, just be because 108 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't want only not only do I not want 109 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: to get it, I don't want to be responsible for 110 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: spreading it. So if I did get it, I don't 111 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: want to give it to anybody or you know, anything 112 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: like that. It's just I've been watching. Yeah, I've been 113 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: watching this for months. Like when they started talking about 114 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: it in January, I'm like, this thing's coming. Um. I 115 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: never anticipated it would be this big, but I was like, 116 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: this is coming. Um, But man, is it a wild time. 117 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: But I also think it's an I also think it's 118 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: a real the travesties aside the death's acide. That's that 119 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: is tragic. We're not we're not skipping over that. That 120 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: is absolutely tragic. But I also think it's a real 121 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: opportunity in ways because there's not as much distraction in 122 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: our life of we're not driving to and from work, 123 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: there's more time at home. It's a real opportunity in 124 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 1: other ways to experience different parts of life, maybe parts 125 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: that we overlook, um, things that we don't dedicate enough 126 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: time to anything like that. About that, that's a great point. 127 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: Are there any ways in your life currently where you're like, wow, 128 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: this is actually you know, it's as tragic as it is. 129 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: I've found a way to make it a blessing and 130 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: make it an opportunity in ways that I never would 131 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: have experienced before. Uh Man, you know, I do, I 132 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: do understand that. I do totally understand what you're talking about. 133 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people who live particularly 134 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: regular day to day life where they you know, they 135 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: leave their families to go to work, they come back, 136 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: they're too tired to hang with their family, this and that, 137 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: I could totally see that being UM time a beautiful thing, 138 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: being able to spend some time with their family, almost 139 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: like forced socialization in that way, you know. UM. But 140 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: at the same time, you know the uh, you know, 141 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: being being pulled away from a normal, normal, normal, other circumstances. Obviously, 142 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: it's so so heavy on you. UM. For me, I've 143 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: been applying it, you know, trying to get creative. But 144 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: there was a period there I just really felt like 145 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't get greeted. You know. Um, I was just 146 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: too occupied with all right, I gotta go get food. 147 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I gotta get these essentials, those essentials. I need to 148 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: go get this. And I mean, you know, immediately when 149 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: all the stuff started piling on, you know, I was 150 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: out totally outside of the how do I see the 151 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: beauty in this? And was completely in prepper mode, strictly 152 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: prepper mode, you know what I'm saying. Um, And you know, 153 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: people have their own version of prepper mode. Mine wasn't 154 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: going and buying buying every roll of toilet paper. Um. 155 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm from the I'm from the woods, so 156 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: my pepper mode is totally different. And so it's funny 157 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: when I have conversations. Yeah, I'm all stocked up on 158 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: toilet praper, you know, I'm like, that's your prep? What 159 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of prep is that? You know what I'm saying? 160 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: So did you prep? What? What about food? Did you 161 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: get any food? Not yet? But I got all the 162 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: toilet paper probably, but how kinds of steaks sitting in 163 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: your freezer? But I'll tell you, man. Um, so there's that, 164 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: there's that. But um, but you are right, I think 165 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: there really is beauty and finding the fact that you 166 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: do know the people you can rely on and the 167 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: people who are contacting you, and the people who are 168 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: reaching out and acting like they care about you, UM, 169 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: because that matters, you know, that matters, UM. And my 170 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: personal life here, it's been tough because my dad had 171 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: open heart surgery, uh some months back, and you know, 172 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: he's been he had a couple of strokes, so I 173 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: can't really leave him alone, UM, And so it's been 174 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: tough because you know, there's that balance of oh, how 175 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: much contact can I have about that? How close can 176 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: I do? You my dad? But at the same time, 177 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, if I wasn't checking in on my dad, 178 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: I want to you know, seeing him having a seizure, 179 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so and so these 180 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: are the things. These are just different, you know, equations, 181 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: and it's just different calculates for every household and every 182 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: every family member or roommate or friend or whoever you 183 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: you are hunkered down with. UM. You know, we're all 184 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: just doing the best weekend to you know flattened so 185 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: called flatten the curve. UM. But there's so many other 186 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: factors here that I think are you know, very horrifying 187 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: to me. Um, this this virus is one thing. Yes, 188 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: it is lethal to some people, but you know, what 189 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: about the suicide rate? What about the suicide rate? You 190 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: know what, how is that going to change? Because people 191 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: are being as lutely wiped out, unemployed, hungry, you know, Um, 192 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: their lives are falling apart. Yeah, what about the other 193 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: deaths that are going to come from the stress of 194 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: this that? You know, the anxiety creates its own health problems, 195 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, And so so there's there's other things here 196 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: that I find really terrifying, way past the virus itself, 197 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: and then said the the the you know, the effects 198 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: on the economy. I mean I own a bar here. Um, 199 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean I could see it from my house and 200 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: you know just at our bar. Uh, you know, the 201 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: bar had to shut down. And that's what is that? 202 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: Sixty five people too who can't work? Yeah, you know 203 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: how the pressing is that? And and um, you know 204 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: oftentimes when you're working in that industry, you know, you're 205 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: you're not living check to check or week to week. 206 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: That's day to day money, man, That's that's your money 207 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: or the day is the money you're relying on for 208 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: that You're really like, how do I get through today, well, 209 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: I gotta make X amount of dollars by the end 210 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: of the day or on I'm screwed. It's tough that 211 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: you can feel that, you can just feel the energy 212 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: in the world. You can, UM, But I don't believe 213 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: that they're that people are. You hear about business owners 214 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: taking out loans to be able to still pay employees, like, 215 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: there's some amazing stories that you still hear about. Like 216 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: I said before, I think I think some of the 217 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: best parts of humanity come out in a crisis time. UM. 218 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: I've reached out to a couple of people that I 219 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: know are low income, UM that I've had to do 220 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: some work for me, for us, UM, just to make 221 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: sure they're okay. UM. I think so much of that 222 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: is going on. The people that can afford to do it, 223 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: I think are reaching out with all of branches, left, 224 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: right and center to help anybody. At least they are 225 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: and they do. But most businesses simply don't have UH 226 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: an operating account that would permit it. Period. The majority 227 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: of businesses simply don't live in that level of surplus. Period. Yeah, 228 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be scary, And the fact is there's what's 229 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: that Yeah, keep going. What are you gonna say. I'm 230 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: just saying that the you know, there comes a point 231 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: where you know, you can't borrow any more money for something. 232 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, not every business can 233 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: operate like that. Yeah, you know so, And it's it's 234 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: it's insane, it's gonna be. There's many things coming. You 235 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: touched on on a lot of them. There's many things coming. 236 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: One there's I mean, we haven't even hit the peak 237 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: of this yet right there talking that. You know, listen 238 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: to President Trump talking about this week is gonna be 239 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of deaths this week in 240 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: the US, and then next week might even be the week. Um, 241 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: there's projections going out that I'm listening to a lot 242 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: of stuff on coronavirus. There's projections that, um, it's gonna 243 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: be heavy until the end of June and then maybe 244 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: middle of August it's gonna start slowing down. Um, there's projections, 245 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: projections of hundreds of thousands of death upward of two 246 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: hundred thousand deaths, um. And then they're talking about a 247 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: second wave of this. What happens when the economy picks 248 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: up starts up again, everybody goes back to work. Is 249 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: the second wave of this in the fall. And then, 250 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: like you said, Gav, the amount of fallout from this, 251 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: the um collateral damage, the suicides, the drug use, the anxiety, UM, 252 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: these things that are not being measured right now and 253 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: won't have statistics on, but are definitely going to affect people, 254 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: uh in right now or in the months coming. And 255 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: they've done studies. They look at studies for and stats 256 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: from the Great Depression, how drug use and suicide spiked 257 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: back then. Um. There's a lot of other things also 258 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: for for affluent people, people who own a business, somebody 259 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: like somebody like yourself. You own a bar, you own 260 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: a restaurant, and then all of a sudden you aren't 261 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: able to operate. That is your life savings put into 262 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: a restaurant or a business, whatever it is, and now 263 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're bankrupt. That is that is 264 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: another layer of stress, of anxiety, of pressure, and beyond 265 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: and beyond that, it's the it's the it's not even 266 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: about the debt. It's not about the loan, it's not 267 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: about your rent, it's not about the bills. Ultimately, it's 268 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: I have pride in providing jobs to people, It makes 269 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: them a living, It pays for their houses, it pays 270 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: for their cars, do you know what I mean? And now, 271 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: if those businesses can't stay open, those people have no 272 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: way to generate income. Do you know what I mean? 273 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: And uh, And so it's it's beyond what what builds 274 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: you have for that place. The biggest thing that upsets 275 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: me is there's no jobs for those people. There's no 276 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: jobs for those people in these in that entire service 277 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: industry doesn't exist. You know, here's a question for you, Gav. 278 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: But here's a question for you. So as a as 279 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: a bar owner, right like, right now, we're not being 280 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: told anything on when the economy is going to reopen, 281 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: when we're going to go back to work, anything like that. Um, 282 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: they're saying, they're saying they're hopeful for May, maybe saying 283 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: they're hopeful for June. But we're not being told a 284 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: definitive clearly because we haven't UM level the curve yet 285 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: here um and got control of this. But at what 286 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: point do business owners forgo that and say I need 287 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: to open up, I need to know a great it's 288 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's a great question. It's a perfect question. 289 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: Here's the The interesting thing that's happened with the rise 290 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: of of of the technologies and social media is that 291 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: you can really push certain social agendas and a common 292 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: social consciousness. Right. The bad thing about that, the bad 293 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: thing about that is whatever the rolling ball is down 294 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: the hill, I want it's decided which ball that is 295 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: that's rolling down the hill of the collective consciousness, which 296 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: the social media, which social media has to ultimately lean 297 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: in become. Right, whatever the pop culture version of opinion 298 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: is becomes the gospel. Right. So if you were to 299 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: open up the bar, let's say and people go, fuck it, 300 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: let's just go have a good time. And if I'm 301 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: gonna go down, I may as well go down in flames. Right, 302 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: go out there and take a risk, and if you 303 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: get sick, and get sick, right, ask from your approach 304 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: and you open the doors. He said, let's sew a 305 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: party a coronavirus party. Right. If you do that, hey, yeah, 306 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: some people might show up, but be you would absolutely basically, 307 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: as far as public opinion goes, run the risk of 308 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: having your ankles shackled in chains and thrown into the 309 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: river for your reputation because your social cond just miss 310 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: wasn't elevated enough to care about the planet in the world, 311 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: and the people you understand to be an element of 312 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: that demonizing you for operating, which is understandable because I 313 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: understand all schools of thought here, which are survival, staying afloat, 314 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: putting food on the table, needing to eat, and at 315 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: the saint time, running the risk of infecting somebody because 316 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: you were too callous or not careful enough. Right, So 317 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: we're all in this huge predicament. And but you know 318 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: what I think is the biggest thing and the scariest 319 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: thing about this whole this whole environment right now, is 320 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: we run the risk of setting precedent for losing certain 321 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: constitutional rights whenever a so called threat arrives at any kind. 322 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: That's the scary part of all this to me. I'm 323 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: a freedom guy. I'm gonna live at your own risk 324 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: personality type. So if you're told you're not permitted to 325 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: do this or that because it makes you not careful 326 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: enough for you know, the you know, other people in 327 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: your society, and they'll shame you for going into the 328 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: grocery store, you know, or two of you walking close together. Um, 329 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: because it's a medical risk. We're a life risk of 330 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: some kind, we we start to run the risk. Then 331 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: at that point of setting a precedent of being able 332 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: to enforce anything, any sort of restriction, any behavioral restriction, 333 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: simply by coming out and saying, oh, there's another virus. 334 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: Everybody stay home and you're not allowed to leave your house. 335 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: You could say it at any point. I was listening 336 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: to I was listening to something on this yesterday. Um, 337 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: they're talking about how after nine eleven, how all of 338 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: a sudden T s A. There was pat downs and 339 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: people were in an operation. They're patting me down at 340 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: the airport. Are you kidding me? They're touching patting me down. Now, 341 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: fast forward, fast forward twenty years. Um, it's nothing. You 342 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: get to the airport, you just expect it, right, It's 343 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: just part of everyday life. Now. So now now the 344 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: new norm, like you said, is oh there's a virus, 345 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: everybody stay at home. We stop everything. Businesses shut down, 346 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: stay at home, schools shut down, work from home, stay 347 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: at home. Whole economy shuts down. And I see what 348 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: you're saying is that the future is that going to 349 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: be a new norm five years from now, ten years 350 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: from now, with that's right, yeah, when something comes down 351 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: spot on, because guess what, anytime they pat me down, 352 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm still thinking in my head, just can hands off 353 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: of me? Anybody gets anybody gets six. No, it's true, 354 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: it's true. That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking, get your 355 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: hands off of me. I haven't committed a crime. I'm 356 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: not even suspected of a crime. You shouldn't be allowed 357 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: to touch me. Yeah. Man, it's interesting debate. We could 358 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: go all day on this because they're doing it there. 359 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: It's like, it's not against you, it's nothing personal against you. 360 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: It's a it's a safety obviously you know what it's for. 361 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: But I get your pushback. Well, you know what, when 362 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: you can point to the examples of when it's actually 363 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: work to stop somebody from taking down a plane, then 364 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: you'll have an argument. But they're there army, so you know, 365 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: to discussion right now. So the same discussion right now 366 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: about coronavirus. There's I've heard a rumor that apparently they 367 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is true. It's just 368 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: I'm listening to all kinds of different resources on this. 369 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: So I've heard a rumor that they figure everybody is 370 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: going to get this by the end of the year 371 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: in the US that everyone will have got it, And 372 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: if they announced that now, everyone would just go out 373 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: right now because they're like, well, I'm gonna get it 374 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: at some point, So why why not? Like why would 375 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: I Why don't I open my bar? You know, because 376 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to get it. Patrons are going to get it. 377 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: Why not get it now and not lose the flood 378 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: the health care system and then you have real problems. Yeah, 379 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: But then there's also there's also the weight hearing some 380 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: really interesting debates on the weight of the economic cost 381 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: versus the life cost. And everyone will always say that 382 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: they are fully on board for saving as many lives 383 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: as possible. I believe every single human would say that. Um, 384 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: but there's discussions that if we shut down the entire 385 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: cont economy for months more, you know, and the death 386 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: rate is two thousand people, or what if we don't 387 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: shut anything down past April and the death rate is 388 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: a hundred and forty people. People are really having this 389 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: discussion is it worth there's sixty lives difference there. Let's 390 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: just say that's what it was. Would it be worth 391 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: the shutdown? You know? Because how many you haven't factored 392 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: in suicides or um like if if businesses go under, 393 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: if people lose their homes, um their life savings. You're 394 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: looking at suicide, drug youth, Um you have more casualties. Well, 395 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: does it even out over the course of a year. 396 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: There's some real interesting discussions. And none of this is 397 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: meant to be unsympathetic or uncompassionate or unempathic. They're just 398 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: looking at real world possibilities to try iran guide this 399 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: thing forward in a in a state of complete uncertainty. Um, 400 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: it's just fascinating to learn, to listen and to learn 401 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: it really is just fascinating to hear some of the 402 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: best minds deal with a black swan event that we've 403 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: never experienced in our lifetime. But you know what, but 404 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: look at all the look at all the numbers, man, 405 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the types of numbers you have, 406 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: the types of deaths you have from the flue season, 407 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: the types of deaths you have from car accidents per day. 408 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, are we gonna pull We're gonna 409 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: stop all traffic? You're gonna stop all traffic because the 410 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: amount of deaths every day in the United States. No, 411 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: they're not. They're not because they would create an economic 412 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: melt down, one just like the one that's happening right now. 413 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: Um so so yeah, I do understand the concept of 414 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: being socially conscious and wanting to save lives. My worry 415 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: is at it it's not going to work, and we're 416 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: going to end up with You're gonna end up with 417 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: many cases of people who um, and let me point 418 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: this out, by the way, just prior to this becoming 419 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: a much bigger thing, we had the tornado here in 420 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: Nashville about a mile from my house, you know, and 421 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: there's people who lost their home then lost their job 422 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: because of this economic meltdom. Yeah, and they're gonna end 423 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: up losing family members anyway from the virus. So they're 424 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: gonna be people with no jobs, no house, and no 425 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: family member of some kind. You know. We're trying to 426 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: stop it. I understand we're taking an approach, but my 427 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: fear is ultimately that basically every time to go him, 428 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: it gets in the ball to do something, even when 429 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: it's with good intentions, it's set a bad precedent and 430 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: creates more harm and good. Ah, that's it's such an 431 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: interesting debate, man, It just is. It's just such a 432 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: I love looking at both sides of it. I love 433 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: looking at actually two sides of this. Definitely two sides 434 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: to this, there really are. And I think that we're 435 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: both understanding that that there is obviously a threat. The 436 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: virus is definitely a threat. You know, my father is 437 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: at risk for this, you know, Um, obviously we're all 438 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: at risk for this, but his, his, he statistically runs 439 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: a much greater risk if he if you get this 440 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: um of not surviving it or impassing to him much 441 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: more severely. Um. So unfortunately, you know it hasn't happened yet, um, 442 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: thank god. But um, but you know, he and I 443 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: discussed this, you know, he and I discussed this because 444 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about somebody who you know, he's got sons 445 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: who were in businesses, right, and you know anxiety or 446 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: shress can bring on another stroke for him, yeah, or seizure. 447 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: You see. So it's creating other factors by making the 448 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: economy suffer see treating medical factors for people with other 449 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: medical conditions. When the economy uh comes to a screeching pault, 450 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: they're they're having debates about like is it what is 451 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: the blowback? You know, what is the collateral damage? If 452 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: we open it back up? Or what is the collateral 453 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: damage if we keep the economy closed, like waging the 454 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: flateral damage versus the lives lost due to the virus. Um. 455 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating discussion. Nobody's right on it, nobody has 456 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: the crystal ball on it. Um. I agree, I agree 457 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: in minds working hard on it, I'm sure. Um, but 458 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna agree. What What are the what are the 459 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: banks supposed to do? I mean, what are the banks 460 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: supposed to do? What are the property owners supposed to do? 461 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: What are the h O ways supposed to do? You know? 462 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: Can they go around collecting their fees if there's nobody 463 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: working in the buildings to you know, provide maintenance anymore? 464 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: Do they still get their fees? Uh? Do they? You 465 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Uh? You know, can the banks 466 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: go and collect if there's no if if the engine 467 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: has come to a halt, can they still say you 468 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: owe this, you owe that? You know what? As I'm 469 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: listening to you talk, it's what's really become an apparent 470 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: to me is just are how high our level of 471 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: dependency is as human beings, as society? Because all of 472 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, some of these things go away. Like, let's say, 473 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the virus was so bad that 474 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: people did not want to work at all at grocery stores, 475 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: and food was not shipped to a grocery store. Right now, 476 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: people training because they have to wait to get into 477 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: the store. Or you can only buy x amount of 478 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: an item to two eggs or two things of eggs, 479 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: things of milk, or one thing of toilet paper. Everything 480 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: is rationed right now because everything is everybody is so hectic. Um, 481 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: and there there's a lot of complaints and stuff going 482 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: on about that, but this stuff is still being delivered 483 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: to us. You know. Take away our basic fundamental services 484 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: and there would be ka utter chaos in the world. Um, 485 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: you know what it is. Interestingly, let me let me 486 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: liken it to something I find fascinating. Okay, So, over 487 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: the years, we've lost a ton of manufacturing jobs in 488 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: the United States, in absolute ton of them, right and 489 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: fortunately there are some manufacturers that still exist in the country. 490 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: I remember years ago, but uncle said to me when 491 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: I was griping about a band out for some car company. 492 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: He said, yes, I know the complaints and it's legitimate. 493 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: But he said to me, but God forbid there's a war, 494 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: you're going to need somebody to make the tanks. And 495 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, good point. Interestingly, we're not 496 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: building tanks right now for this. We're making masks, we're 497 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: making respirators. So it makes sense why you need manufacturing 498 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: in your own country right now? I liken that to 499 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: manufacturing I'm stretching, but to the manufacturing from your home. 500 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Why do we need the grocery store because nobody knows 501 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: how to fucking garden anymore, because nobody knows how to 502 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: plant a tomato. All your buddies should tell you how 503 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: educated they are because they have a master's degreeing, am 504 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: I here, how about you plant me a tomato genius? 505 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: Right so so, and then the right so so. Then 506 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: at that point there, what's that? It's just lazy too? Well, 507 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: what the irony is that we've learned all of these 508 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: exceptional skills and we have all these exceptional degrees that 509 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: actually don't provide I had any essential services to ourselves, 510 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: like having your own food. God forbid. They shut the 511 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: grocery store down, God forbids. Yeah, it's people will be 512 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: eating each other in three days on the street, um convenience. 513 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: As I'm thinking about it. Convenience induces a state of 514 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: almost learned helplessness, no doubt about it. Man and we. 515 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: I feel like this is a lesson of for a 516 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: lot of us who live in an urban environment or 517 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: a suburban environment. I'm just vulnerable. I need to manufacture, 518 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: I need to grow. I need to be able to exist, survive, 519 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: thrive on my own. If need be completely and have 520 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: these things, these ducks in a row du I've talked 521 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: created completely different reality. I've talked about this for a 522 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: long time in my life. Um, I started hunting when 523 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: I was thirteen. I hunt whitetailed deer back in Canada. 524 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: Grew up fishing, and I've always said I've always wanted 525 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: to be able to hunt and fish because if if 526 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: we ran I always said, if we ran out of oil, 527 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: if the world ran out of oil, things are going 528 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: to come to a screeching halt. And I need to 529 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: be able to provide. So I'm actually up at my 530 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: lake house in Idaho, where you have half acres on 531 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: water front. I can fish. UM can't hunt now, it's 532 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: not the season, but you can if if need be. 533 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: I would hunt in the hills, in the in the 534 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: in the woods back here, and I have water. You know, 535 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: I could burn wood and oil. I could survive. And 536 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: I've always thought about that, and it's a far from 537 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: thought like I always thought about that. It's like it's 538 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: so far fetched. The world's not gonna shut down. It's 539 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: going to continue to operate. My fear was if we 540 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: ran out of oil that it would But I never 541 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 1: thought of a virus or something like this that would 542 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: come along. But I will say it is nice to 543 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: have skills to be able to provide for yourself. Beat 544 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: the conveniently to a store and buying food is wonderful 545 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: and a gift from God. Um. And I'm so grateful 546 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: for the people that are responsible for getting that food there, 547 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: for allowing myself to um but also to live off 548 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: the land, whether it's gardening, fishing, hunting. UM. I think 549 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: is just an underrated life skill that you know. But 550 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: here's the great irony of it, man. You know, the 551 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: great irony of it is for so many people who 552 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: leave a country environment and go to the city or 553 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: the suburbs or whatever. If you say you grew up 554 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: like that, you were looked at like such a hillbilly. 555 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: You were looked at socially in those city environments by 556 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: so many of those types of people, like you are 557 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: so far beneath them because you would take a life. Oh, 558 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, I actually I get 559 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: what you're saying when I tell people in Manhattan that 560 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: I was from upstate New York. And yeah, of course 561 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: we went hunting when we're you know where we're growing up. Oh, oh, dude, 562 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: when I was when I was thirteen. Like, hunting is 563 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: a very spiritual thing for me. Um, Hunting isn't about 564 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: going and killing. I've never hunted for sport. The only 565 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: reason I would ever hunt is to eat the meat 566 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: of whatever I was going to hunt. And I remember 567 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: when I was thirteen when I first killed a white 568 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: tailed deer, and our family, my dad and I and 569 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: my brother made deer sausage for our family. Um. I 570 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: prayed every single night for a week, thanking that animal 571 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: for giving its life to be able to provide for 572 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: our family. It is, well, you know what, and you 573 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: know what, all all those things that you did, you 574 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: wereciating it and and and you know, fishing, these really 575 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: are the fundamentals, the fundamentals of of surviving, of surviving, 576 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: UM and people just they don't do it, or they 577 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: never did it, or they look down to look down 578 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: on it. I think some Yeah, like I was fortunate 579 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: to have my dad taught me to fish, to fill 580 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: it fish, to be able to catch a fish and 581 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: be able to put it, like to fill it it, 582 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: to put it on a hand, to be able to 583 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: cook it. Um. Anyway, we could go to this all day, 584 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: but let's get one of our How Men Think podcast 585 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: team members has had coronavirus. Remember Hanna who worked for 586 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: us before she went back to school. She was in 587 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: turn worked with us UM. She was traveling abroad in Spain, 588 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: studying abroad in Spain, and ended up getting coronavirus. So 589 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna get Hanna on right after this break. We're 590 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna hear her story back from break on another coronavirus 591 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: edition of Hell Men Think. I hate not seeing your 592 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: face gave. I hate not seeing Rick Dmitri, Ryan Easton, 593 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: our engineer, he Tory Danielle. I like, one of my 594 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: favorite things about doing this podcast, probably my favorite thing, 595 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: UM is seeing the people that we do it with, 596 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: and any other favorite is being able to serve our listeners, 597 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: our community. But I miss seeing everybody's face and back 598 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: with us. We have Hannah, Hannah, how are you hey? 599 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? I miss everyone? One yeah, one, 600 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: we miss you. Um. You were part of the initial 601 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: how Men Think team until you went back to school. Um, 602 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: but I want to send my heart out to Johanna. 603 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Um? Can you share your story 604 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: with coronavirus and how it's affected you. Yes, I'm doing 605 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: much much better now, thank goodness. But I came back. 606 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: So I was spending a brown Barcelona, and I came 607 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: back because my school in Spain sent all the kids home, 608 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 1: and so I came back on March thirte that Friday, 609 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: and like two days previous to leaving Spain, I wasn't 610 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: feeling my best, but I don't think I really took 611 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: it seriously. I kind of just like pushed past. I 612 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: was trying to pack up all my things and just 613 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: get out of there as quickly as possible. And so 614 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: then a couple of days later, Monday, UM, after I 615 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: got back, I got tested and for four days around 616 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: that time was like my worst. I was like in bed, 617 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: couldn't really move, I had troubled breathing, but I didn't 618 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: have that high of a fever. It's a slight fever. 619 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: It was just like this terrible chest pain. And I 620 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: got my results back a week later and tested positive 621 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: and have had to just really lay low and quarantine, 622 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: and so has my family because they have all been 623 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: exposed to me as well. So it's been an ordeal. 624 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: Oh my heart goes out to you. I'm glad you know. Um, 625 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: so you are currently at home at your mom and 626 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: dad's place or where are you at now, Hannah? Yeah, correct, 627 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: So I flew back into San Francisco and now I'm 628 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: just at my parents house with my sister and we've 629 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: all been just quarantining together or no nobody no. So 630 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: they have been completely asymptomatic, have been feeling a hundred 631 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: percent and they kind of like wish that they could 632 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: get tested just because they were around me and exposed 633 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: to me, but they can't get test it because they 634 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: have absolutely no symptoms, so they kind of just have 635 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: to assume that they had it and take the extra 636 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: take like extra precaution and just not see anyone, not 637 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: leave the house. And they've been just stuck in the 638 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: house waiting for an additional two weeks to be safe 639 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: Hannah do Um, do you have any recollection or idea 640 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: possibly of how you might have got coronavirus? Remember a 641 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: person coughing or I think that. I mean, I definitely 642 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: got it when I was in Spain, for sure, um, 643 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: and I had this gnarly, gnarly cough or probably like 644 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: two weeks before coming home, and I remember my parents 645 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: came and they m they met me in Paris for 646 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: the weekend, and I texted my mom before meeting them, 647 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know if I can come, 648 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: I'm so sick. And I think that around that time 649 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: is when I was getting it, because everyone I was 650 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: with had this gnarly cough and everyone just was not 651 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: feeling their best. And when I heard about this, I 652 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: think of, like, how many people we're sick that maybe 653 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: didn't get tested but passed passed through coronavirus. But like, 654 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: I wonder what the true stats are, Like I don't think. 655 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't think these stats are people that that have 656 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: tested positive or even a fraction of the amount of 657 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: people that have had it. No, I completely agree. I 658 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: completely agree. I think that everyone I was with in Spain, 659 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: there's no way that like of us, like don't have it, 660 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: Like I think, so many people have it and because 661 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: they're asymptomatic, they don't even know they have it, but 662 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: their carriers and then they passed it along to so 663 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: many people. That's so scary. Yeah, what has been the 664 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: scariest part for you about having coronavirus UM? I just worry. 665 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: I worry about getting it to my parents, and like 666 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: it was worrying me because when I came home, even 667 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: before I got tested and before I got my test 668 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: results back, I was exposed to my mom and she 669 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: went grocery shopping with her grandparents, And so that's what 670 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: gave me so much anxiety. I was like, oh my gosh, 671 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: if I had somehow given it to my mom and 672 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: my mom gave it to my grandparents, that is what 673 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: scared me. Um. And when I was sick, the only 674 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: thing that really was worrying me was like my chest pain. 675 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: But I didn't have I didn't have it that bad. 676 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: I feel actually really lucky that I didn't have a 677 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: super bad fever or get super bad symptoms. Yeah. Oh man, 678 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: my heart goes out to you. Thank you. I know 679 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: it's such a food time right now, but I feel 680 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: lucky that it wasn't that bad. So Hannah, thinking on big, big, 681 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: big picture, what is your biggest worry about this virus? 682 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: Now outside of your side of your family are you 683 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: Are you more worried that the virus is going to spread, 684 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: or you more worried about the effects on the economy, 685 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: or if you were to choose a version of things 686 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: you need to think you should watch out for. We 687 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: all need to watch out. Well, what do you think 688 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 1: is your biggest worry? Um? Well, I would just say 689 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: something that worries me as I see like on social 690 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: media also a lot of people like maybe not taking 691 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: it seriously because they haven't felt direct effects to them 692 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: or they don't know anyone, um. And so that's what 693 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: worries mean, is that some people just seriously aren't taking 694 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: it seriously at all. Um. Right, And it does worry 695 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: me too, especially being a college student and I mean 696 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: graduating from college in one year. It does worry me 697 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 1: about jobs and also with a lot of my friends, 698 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of their internships for the summers have 699 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: fallen through and now they are left with no job, 700 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: and they've been trying to reach out to people and 701 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: get something else. But everyone is just so uncertain right now, 702 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: So I think it's scaring a lot of people, which 703 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: also scares scares me at the same time. Economic times, Yeah, 704 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: you can always will always welcome you back to the show. Yeah, 705 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: thank you. I know it's I mean, I feel lucky 706 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: also that I mean, of course amy in everything. But 707 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: it's just like an uncertain time to like knowing that 708 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,959 Speaker 1: I'm going to graduate college in a year and things 709 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: are looking great with the economy. It's unsettling, of course. 710 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: Very yah um. Yeah, I think and what you said 711 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: they're about I have the fear of that too. Of 712 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: the people. People aren't taking this seriously. You know, when 713 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: I go up with what I The other day, I 714 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: was at I went to Costco to get some toilet 715 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: paper because I have too even year old neighbors that 716 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: I'm looking after this time because the wife has some 717 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 1: underlying health issues. And so whenever I go out, Um, 718 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm going gloves and I'm going masks and a hood 719 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: over my head. Um, and I'm at Costco and I'm 720 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: I was one of the only ones. There wasn't very 721 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: many people with masks or gloves on, and people were 722 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: looking at me like I was like, jeezus, one guy 723 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: walked by it goes the world is sure changed, and 724 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: I should have said something to him, but I didn't. 725 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't um, It wasn't the point of me getting 726 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: into it with him. But like, the reason I do 727 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: that is because I'm buying toilet paper for somebody that 728 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: has underlying health conditions. I come home, I rub it 729 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: down um with some cleaning wipes, and then I let 730 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: it sit here for five days before I drop it 731 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: on their doorstep. So it's not I don't like when 732 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 1: people don't take it seriously because maybe they're not worried, 733 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: but they don't know what other people have, if they're 734 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: looking after a parent, grandparents, if they have kids. It's like, 735 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: that's my biggest fear with this too, is that people 736 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: don't take it seriously because they don't think it applies 737 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: to them, but their actions apply everybody, correct exactly. That's 738 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: such a good point. That's such a good point. It's 739 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: like people don't realize that their actions could be affecting 740 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 1: other people. Just because it doesn't affect them directly doesn't 741 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: mean that they aren't mean putting other people in danger. 742 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: You know what else meant? He's the other thing I 743 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: was I was thinking about. That was really you know, 744 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: the saddest thing about all of this the idea that 745 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: if someone does become terminally ill from this, their family 746 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: members can't go visit them while they're on their way out. 747 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: They can't just go to the hospital and be bedside. 748 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: They can't tell they love them the same way. They 749 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: can't make that contact, you know, so asential they're just 750 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: they're dying with strangers. Yeah, there's stories on the new 751 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: boat nurses comforting. The saddest thing that is the saddest 752 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: part about Yeah, well, Hannah, thanks for joining us. Can't 753 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: wait to see your face again soon. Glad you're doing well. 754 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: Best wishes to you and your family and we miss you, girl, 755 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: but glad you're doing better. Of course, to care from 756 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: you guys and stay safe and help for you to 757 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Okay, this is gonna be fun because 758 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: Ryan is a nervous wreck at the best of times. 759 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: The world could be operating in the best case scenario 760 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: and Ryan would be nervous anyway. So I'm excited to 761 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: hear how Ryan is doing at this time. So Eastern 762 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: can we get Ryan on. I am here, Bryan, I 763 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 1: am here. It's good to hear your voice again, man. 764 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: I wi I could say the same for your voice crying. 765 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: What's your what's your stress level and anxiety level? I 766 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: am losing my absolute mind, are you. I'm gonna tell 767 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: you what. I'll tell you what. I take some solace 768 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: in during these dark times. And that is months ago. 769 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: You told the doctor that we had on that you 770 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 1: eat so clean and because of your clean diet, you 771 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: are so so regular and you take six or seven 772 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 1: poops a day. Now, I as as we go through 773 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: this toilet paper shortage, I think to myself, you know 774 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: who's screwed. I guess that backfire. Now, how are you 775 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: doing with the toilet Brooks? I was literally just talking 776 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: to Hon about I went to Costco the other day 777 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: and I got a thirty roll pack. I am all set, man. 778 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: I got one for my neighbors, my seven year old neighbors. 779 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: I got a thirty roll pack for them. They're all set, 780 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: brought that, no worries at all. So you're the one 781 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: buying up all the toilet paper. Huh, No, you can 782 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: only take one. You can only take They only allow 783 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: you one thing, one package per membership. Yeah, we'll back 784 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 1: into the third day. So that'll get you, That'll get 785 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: you through the next forty eight hours. But what are 786 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: you gonna do from there? In this in this black 787 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: swan event that is your biggest, uh biggest, that's consuming 788 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: your thought the motion. I appreciate your concern. Yeah, I'll 789 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: tell you the difference between you and me. You went 790 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: and I got toilet paper. I had five handles of 791 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: Tito's delivered to me yesterday. That's where I am in 792 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: life of yes. Yes, are you getting with two kids 793 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: under the age of two at home right now? Uh? 794 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: It is very challenging, It's it is. Uh yeah, I mean, look, 795 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: we're all everybody in this this boat with kids where 796 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to work and do all these zooms, which 797 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: is a whole new phenomenon for me. Uh and my 798 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: two and a half year old refused to allow me 799 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: to be in any room of the house to get 800 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: any quote unquote work done whatsoever. So, uh yeah, that's 801 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: that's the new normal. I guess. So you you continue 802 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 1: to So you guys have found a way to do 803 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:49,359 Speaker 1: zoom calls over whatever to keep keep working. We have. Yeah, 804 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an interesting little tidbit here because 805 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: that's what I'm good for. I read an article the 806 00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: other day the CEO of Walmart said that shirt sales 807 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 1: are up astronomically on at Walmart, and pants sales are 808 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: down astronomically on Walmart. Nobody's buying pants anymore because in 809 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: the zoom culture, all you need is a waste up. 810 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty uh pretty interesting, dude. Yeah, I know 811 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: what you mean, because we did that. Two of my 812 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: best friends were supposed to get married March twenty two 813 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: or March twenty one, whatever it was, and they obviously 814 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: had to postpone their wedding. It was supposed to be 815 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: in Mexico. They had to postpone their wedding. So a 816 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: group of that, I think there was sixteen of us 817 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,879 Speaker 1: different friends, created a zoom uh call we call all 818 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: got on the call and then called them, and so 819 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: there were sixteen different screens of people up and we 820 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: all had on our attire that we were going to 821 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 1: wear to their wedding that day. And I just had 822 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: shorts on, like a suit and tie on um above 823 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: and I stood up and I just had shorts undneth. 824 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 1: They just started laughing. So I get it. You dress 825 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: up fancy for then, Yeah, it's business up top and 826 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: party down below. Man. So in your world, what's what's 827 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: a daily like? Walk us through a normal day view 828 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 1: right now? Ryan, when you ask about my stress and 829 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: anxiety level, Uh, what I've found myself doing is I'm 830 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: consuming so much news, just trying to stay ahead of 831 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: where everything is going with this whole pandemic. And I'll 832 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: lay there in bed and I'll feel a little partickle 833 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: in my throat, for instance, and I'll say, oh my god, 834 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 1: this is it, this is the beginning. It's like now 835 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: I'll try to take a deep breath and I'll feel 836 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: like that was Was that a normal breath? It seemed 837 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: a little bit shorter than a normal breath, did it not? 838 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: And now I'm done this whole road of like I'm 839 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: I give myself about two weeks. There's no more ventilators. 840 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm dead, and I can like it's a psycho somatic 841 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: thing where I feel anything slightly abnormal, and I believe 842 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: that this is the first symptom in the beginning of 843 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: the end form it. Absolutely every time the A C 844 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: goes off in my house, I think I have a fever. 845 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: This is this is why I love you, man. I 846 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: know that that's true, and and I support you and 847 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 1: I want to be here for you. But you are 848 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: also very much a worry word. You You very much are, buddy. 849 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: You like, do you when you ask yourself truthfully, do 850 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: you think you have it? Do you? Um is, does 851 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: your brain go, oh, no, you're just acting crazy Ryan, 852 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: Or do you actually like believe that you have it? 853 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:48,800 Speaker 1: When this these kinds of events happen, I more often 854 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: than not, recently I'm telling myself I'm crazy, But I'm 855 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of telling myself that to make myself settled down. 856 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: But like, I have colleagues that have been diagnosed with it, 857 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: So then I'm doing the math on how long has 858 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 1: it been since I was with them? All that stuff? 859 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: But we my my wife and I and our two 860 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: kids legitimately have not left house to go even to 861 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: the grocery store or anything for close to three weeks now. 862 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: We've been able fortunately to get every get just like 863 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: the vast majority of the stuff delivered to us, and 864 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: we had a ton of food anyway, So we've legitimately 865 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: just stayed with one another and not had any contact 866 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: with anybody. Yeah, good question. Have you have you been 867 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: looking at any uh, furniture sites online, redecoration online, being 868 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 1: out of boredom. Just been like, I'm so done with debt, couch, 869 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of that dishwasher. I need a new counter. 870 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 1: Are you guys looking around your home seeing things that 871 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: you want to change? No, I'm more I'm on Amazon, 872 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: like I ordered a new hose earlier today I ordered 873 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: zang close and is just to be proactive. I ordered 874 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: apple cider vinegar capsule, Sperelena cap Are you like everything? 875 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 1: Are you like me when you go online looking for 876 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,919 Speaker 1: a hose? Are you actually looking at hose or looking 877 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: at something you can use as a gas siphon if 878 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: need be. I guess we're a case of nerd ropes. Okay, 879 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: That's where I am in life. YouTube polar opposites like 880 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: Gav I think is like I think you are super prepared. Um, Ryan, 881 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: You're like you're one end of the spectrum. You're gonna 882 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: order everything, let's pre let's prep for this. You're gonna 883 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: be stocked up, You're gonna be You're gonna spear Lena tablets, everything, 884 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna research it, You're gonna and I think the 885 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum is gav Who's just like, 886 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't have anything. I'm just gonna I think I'm 887 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: just gonna stay away from people. I'll be okay. I 888 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: think you guys are And also I think gave confined. 889 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: Are you're finding any enjoyment at all in like this 890 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of time? Ryan, is there something that that in 891 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: your life that's actually been more enjoyable that's different from 892 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: the day to day grind that we usually have, like 893 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: maybe spending more time, uh, you know, And I feel 894 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: like I'm very lucky to have my dad who look 895 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: after and and I am more appreciative probably now then 896 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: I've ever been that I know how to play an 897 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: instrument because when you're board, um, it's a great way 898 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: to burn some time, you know what I mean, and 899 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: get creative. Um. So it's it's it's nice to be 900 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: able to find find a little diversions, uh, and that 901 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: type of thing. And I've also, you know, really grown 902 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: to appreciate much more even the having good neighbors. You know, 903 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: like a good neighbor, it goes a long way. Right now, 904 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: what about you, Ryan, So we'll get Devin. Have you 905 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: thought of any new renditions of the national anthem during 906 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: this time or no, yes, I have this one. I 907 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: start this one based down on the ice, so I 908 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: can only go up from there. Um uh Brooks. To 909 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: answer your question, the answer, the answer is yes, like tearfully. 910 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: I've been taking my two and a half year old son, 911 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: like from seven thirty till nine thirty, just the two 912 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: of us pretty much every morning, and we'll go out 913 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: into the front yard and like play baseball, soccer, like 914 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: ride the ride his scooter, all that stuff, which uh, 915 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: in a normal work week we just don't have the 916 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: time to do. So I think that has brought brought 917 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: us a lot closer together. I will say I think 918 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: of the two of you a lot, uh not in 919 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 1: a good way, which is like I did not have kids, 920 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: if you if you don't have kids. During this whole thing, 921 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: like my wife and I were talking about, it was 922 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 1: like this would be a dream in many ways, like 923 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: we you don't really have to socialize with people. You 924 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: can just stay at home, watch Netflix, hang out, eat 925 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: food like go to sleep, like just chill. There's no 926 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: commitments that you have to do outside of the house. 927 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: It's a dream, but you guys are living there. I 928 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 1: got to the end of Netflix already Ryan, and then 929 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: the last box says, your life sucks, it's not a movie. Um, well, Ryan, 930 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: we appreciate you jumping on, brother, and um, I don't 931 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 1: know when was the last time we've seen you in studio. 932 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: It's been like six months many Honestly, Ryan takes the 933 01:00:54,760 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: time coming back. Really, I'm gonna talk, are you guys. 934 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get I'm gonna give you a quick quickly 935 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: little nuggets to leave on, which is somewhat genuine. There 936 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 1: was a an analogy I heard the other day that 937 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: I thought was pretty astute, which was comparing this to 938 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 1: nine eleven and basically saying that, you know, like after 939 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: not eleven, the entire nation came together and we as 940 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: a community and as states all kind of keeled together 941 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 1: through this. And you did that out in the public 942 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: and restaurants and bars and and through talking to people 943 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: outside of your own home, be like just hanging out. 944 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: And this is completely isolating. Obviously, we don't have the 945 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 1: ability to like be in front of other people in 946 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 1: bars and restaurants, are anywhere for that matter. So it's 947 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: right driving me slightly insane as a result just being 948 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: cooped up and going a little bit stire crazy, you 949 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean, I totally understand you know what 950 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: I've been doing. Um, I don't know if you ride, 951 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 1: but I I keep motorbikes and um just getting out 952 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: of the house and getting on the road with the 953 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: bike and leaving the area. Don't have to talk to anybody, 954 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: You get to kind of just go off, you know, 955 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: and see she's a new you know, apocalyptic version of 956 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 1: the United States. On a bike is actually a pretty 957 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: pretty good way to find a little headroom bike. Great, yeah, Ryan, 958 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 1: quick questions. Talk to you guys. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, man, 959 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: you too. How many times a day do you call 960 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: your doctor? Uh? Yeah, it's a little bit of a problem. 961 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: I didn't see a pandemic coming when I was blacklisted 962 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 1: by the entire medical community. So I'm on my own here. 963 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm really on my own. You just on web MD 964 01:02:54,600 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: all day long, just like buddy. That's that is. It's 965 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 1: a tough year, in a tough spot. That that stunt 966 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: you pulled a couple of years ago put you in 967 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: a tough spot for this event. Yeah, buddy, your face, 968 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: your wife and your kids are well, stay stay well, 969 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: my man. Um, thanks for jumping on with us and 970 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: we'll see you soon. Buddy. Good right Brooks. Brooks keep 971 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: posting all those videos of your dog. I can't get 972 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: enough of them. Really today it was awesome. We were 973 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: just gone. I find to see another instant story of 974 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: like fifty seven thumbnails of Coda eating a skull again. 975 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose it. Goodbye. I love you, Throw me 976 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: all you want, Buddy. There see Bunny. I love Brian. 977 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: He's so good. He is he he makes me laugh, 978 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: gaf you make me laugh. Dry It's amazing. What's that? 979 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: He's so dry? It's amazing. Oh I know, and just 980 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: his uh that story he told before about when he 981 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,959 Speaker 1: got what he did with the medical community and now 982 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 1: how it's just backfiring. Oh yeah, Eastern Eastern. Next, we're 983 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: gonna get on our brother Dmitri, who has four kids 984 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 1: at home. He imagine having four kids, wife and four 985 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 1: kids and being quarantined to your own home. Utrio, what's up, fellas? 986 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: How are you? We're live man? How are you doing. 987 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. I'm thrilled to get on this 988 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: call because this way I could tell the kids not 989 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: to bother me for a few minutes. How are you doing, buddy. 990 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: You have four kids. What are the age of your kids? Again? Ten, eight, six, 991 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: and three. Although my son, my son's turned in seven 992 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: this week, so we're gonna have one of those quarantine 993 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 1: birthday parties. Okay, man, give us the truth. Brother. How 994 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: are you holding up? I hope everybody first, I hope 995 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: everybody is healthy and safe. But how are you holding up? 996 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: What's what's life like around your guys home right now? Uh? 997 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: You know it comes in Vaine. It's uh sometimes just 998 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean I'll say this, let me start. Everyone and 999 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: everyone is healthy, so that's good. I'm prappy for that, 1000 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: and we're doing what we need to do. Um, but 1001 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, it gets chaotic. It gets chaotic in here 1002 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 1: and um there are times, you know, you get through 1003 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: the day and then get to that point. I feel 1004 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about drinking and stuff 1005 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 1: like that. I definitely, uh, definitely have some drinks at 1006 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 1: night that are needed. Um. The kids are hanging in there, 1007 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: many they're doing well. I think it's uh. I think 1008 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: I think it's tough. I think it's tough. Did they 1009 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: understand I'll say this, it's funny because I watch a 1010 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 1: lot of news and stuff like that, and I don't 1011 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: side it on them, and so I answer questions for him, 1012 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: So I think they know what's going on. UM, But 1013 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 1: I talked to him, and I feel like that kind 1014 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: of helps because they're not just hearing things and they're 1015 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: like kind of process it on their own. Yeah. So, UM, 1016 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: it's tough, though it's tough that I mean obviously the 1017 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: younger one, a three year old, I don't I don't 1018 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: tell her much about anything, so she just thinks we're 1019 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: all home. So right, what's been one part of of 1020 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 1: the social distancing, self quarantining UM aspect that you've really 1021 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: found enjoyable something that you wouldn't have otherwise done in 1022 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: the standard ordinary day to day life, working, going to where, 1023 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: coming home. What's something that's maybe you've done personally or 1024 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 1: more family time, or something that that's been a blessing 1025 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 1: in this time for you. I'll say this life. And 1026 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this in the past, and I 1027 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: felt like I was being stretched into a bunch of 1028 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: different directions. So I've actually had the chance to kind 1029 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 1: of slow down. We're not I'm not racing the school, 1030 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm not racing a soccer practice, and we're home and 1031 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 1: we're spending time when we're playing games, So life itself 1032 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 1: has been forced to slow down. So I'm appreciative of 1033 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 1: that because, um, even though i may not be sleeping, 1034 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 1: we're you know, I'm getting I'm getting quality time with 1035 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: the family and when I'm not running here and there 1036 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 1: and just trying to make it to all these different things. 1037 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: So so that's that's been a blessing. Um, I get 1038 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: invited to more parties, you know, more FaceTime parties that 1039 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: I do regular parties. So that's co col. What's been 1040 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 1: the hardnest part for you guys, Dmitri, What's that? What's 1041 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 1: been the hardest part something that's been really difficult for 1042 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: you guys during this time? Maybe just like kids to 1043 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 1: my kids or yeah, I mean I think it's I 1044 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: think it's exactly that I think you got. I have 1045 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 1: to keep things in perspective, like things that would annoy me. 1046 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 1: I get questions from the kids NonStop, just questions that 1047 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to ask. I don't have to ask all. 1048 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 1: I like, if we get through this phone call, that 1049 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 1: someone walking in here asking me. But I was trying. 1050 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: I just try and keep in mind this that they're 1051 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,680 Speaker 1: probably asking questions because obviously they're bored and they're there 1052 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 1: and they just want to interact. So the hardest part 1053 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: for me has been I'm not wanting to really lose 1054 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: my temper, you know, but to not be like guys 1055 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:54,400 Speaker 1: wing alone or strut up or right. I was talking 1056 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 1: to another friend of mine who has two kids, and 1057 01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 1: she said, um, she she loves physical contact with because 1058 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 1: I am dying for a moment when one kid is 1059 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 1: not crawling on me. She was all times, and I'm 1060 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 1: over and this is like two weeks ago. Even I 1061 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,479 Speaker 1: don't I don't sleep well, I don't take naps. I 1062 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: fell asleep on the living room Florida the other day. 1063 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 1: It's taken a nap and one of my daughters just 1064 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,640 Speaker 1: walked over and gave me a hard well, woke me up. 1065 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,560 Speaker 1: Normally that's fantastic, but I was like, holy crap. So 1066 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 1: one time I fell asleep, you had to give me 1067 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 1: a huge twenty three hours a day on the rate 1068 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 1: do that. How's the homeschooling going. It's good, it's good. 1069 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 1: There are I set up some computers in the dining room. 1070 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 1: It looks like a like a tell us on um, 1071 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: but there are stay right now for two weeks, which 1072 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 1: you think would be good, but now we've got extra 1073 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,559 Speaker 1: hours in a day to figure out what to do. 1074 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: So that's been something um I built. They asked me 1075 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: to build a port in the in the playroom, so 1076 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'm the build you this 1077 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 1: epic court. I'm like, I'm gonna hang blankets and the 1078 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: whole thing. And then of course I realized I can 1079 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 1: only use what I had, so I got a little short. 1080 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 1: I got short of supply, so I text my body 1081 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 1: around the corner and I said, hey, do you have 1082 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 1: any rope? And he wrote back to me, this is 1083 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 1: the most terrifying text I've ever gotten. And I don't 1084 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 1: contact time. Oh man, I shouldn't laugh at that, but 1085 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 1: you make me laugh. I think you have to laugh 1086 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 1: at stuff. You have to just last in the world. 1087 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 1: I agree. I think there's I even think about, like dreaming. 1088 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 1: I think about people. I don't want people to think 1089 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 1: that the world has just stopped, and that our dreams 1090 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 1: and everything have just stopped or been put on pause. 1091 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 1: I think it's super important to laugh. I think it's 1092 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: super important to sing. Like gav Um, you say you 1093 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 1: have the ability to play an instrument and have an 1094 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 1: outlet still an artistic expression like UM. Also the ability 1095 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 1: to dream like I'm thinking about things that I still 1096 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 1: want to do. I'm not just pausing everything I think, UM. 1097 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 1: Mindset has to continue on and the things that bring 1098 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 1: us joy or maybe as important now as they ever are. UM. 1099 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,560 Speaker 1: So I don't want to make light of that. I 1100 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,679 Speaker 1: agree with man, No, it's interesting. It's a good point. 1101 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 1: And you know, I've been thinking about this too, just 1102 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 1: because you know, I don't want to stop doing what 1103 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,879 Speaker 1: I love to do. I don't want to um ignore 1104 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 1: what's happening UM. And I still want to keep moving 1105 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 1: forward with what I've been doing, like creatively playing music, 1106 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 1: writing songs and things like that. But it's been a 1107 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: little weird because I've hit this weird place because of 1108 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,680 Speaker 1: what's happened around us now, because of this moment in 1109 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 1: time where I'm wondering, well, is the music I was 1110 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 1: writing for the next records? Is it important enough? Now? 1111 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 1: You know? Are the is that material important enough? Uh? 1112 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: You know? Am I writing songs that are socially conscious 1113 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: enough for this moment in time or for the moment 1114 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: of time that comes after this? You know? And so 1115 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: it's starting to sort of play on my mind of 1116 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: how is the material I've been working on? Is the 1117 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,599 Speaker 1: art I've been creating? Is my messaging important enough? Am 1118 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,679 Speaker 1: I capturing enough of this snapshot in time? Or or 1119 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: should I be making material that has nothing to do 1120 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 1: with this moment in time that just has to do 1121 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 1: with encouraging people for what comes after this? Um So 1122 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 1: it's really been interesting from a creative standpoint as a 1123 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: as a writer, a songwriter, of you know, am I 1124 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: doing enough? Is what I have done? Is it uh 1125 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 1: meaningful enough for this uh new version of potentially of 1126 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 1: of outlook that people are going to have having gone 1127 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 1: through absolutely odd uh time? Well, whatever you do, Gav, 1128 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 1: don't remove the duet that we have no man, not 1129 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: a chance. You're kidding me. It's called slapshot. You know. 1130 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: It's interesting that you both said that, because I don't 1131 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 1: know if it's because things are so crazy here or see. 1132 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm from New York, so I watched the news a lot, 1133 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 1: and I see what's going on there, and I have 1134 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: friends and family there, so I get here a lot, 1135 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 1: and then with all the kids here, I think I 1136 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 1: live more in the minute to minute. I try and 1137 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 1: make things good and have fun and and I'll jump 1138 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 1: on in the evening and maybe FaceTime with a buddy 1139 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,680 Speaker 1: and have a drink or something. But I'm doing the 1140 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,679 Speaker 1: opposite of what I think, Brooks. Is what you're saying, 1141 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,559 Speaker 1: is it. I'm kind of living in the moment and 1142 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 1: not able to you know, think. Obviously, I think about 1143 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 1: the future, and I know that that's coming at it, 1144 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 1: but I live more minutes a minute. I think, and like, 1145 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 1: make this a minute good, make them and and kind 1146 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,680 Speaker 1: of get through that. And I know other people are like, oh, 1147 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm seeing out by garage and I'm doing with this 1148 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: and I'm doing and it's like I struggle a little 1149 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:32,599 Speaker 1: bit um creatively and motivationally to do stuff like that, 1150 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 1: because I'm just trying to get you know, I got 1151 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: a lot going on every minute of the day. So 1152 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,559 Speaker 1: I think I'm just living minutes a minute. So that's 1153 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 1: the interesting thought to think about. Um. I get what 1154 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,599 Speaker 1: you're saying, buddy. I've I've put some I don't have 1155 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 1: four kids, Um have a dog that consumes a little 1156 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 1: bit of time, but don't have four kids that I 1157 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 1: need to give to every day. Um. But one thing 1158 01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 1: that I've done. Focusing on during this time is pride 1159 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:07,800 Speaker 1: of work in anything I do. Um, because because some 1160 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,800 Speaker 1: things you can skip over, because in the course of 1161 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 1: a day, you're busy and you want to get this 1162 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: and do that, like you know, months ago when when 1163 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 1: the world was normal. But even something as simple as 1164 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 1: like making the bad like, I'll take extra time and 1165 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 1: as you said, be more present just to like really 1166 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 1: make them funny. Just you know what. I totally get it. 1167 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: I totally get it. You're just looking for something to 1168 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,759 Speaker 1: be good at a task, something to take your mind 1169 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 1: off of anything else. And just what a time. It's 1170 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 1: just so crazy everything, every single thing. The other day, 1171 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 1: I actually, uh, I contemplated cooking and egg How long 1172 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 1: the contemplation. It took a few hours, I thought, And 1173 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,479 Speaker 1: then I decided just to uh, put water in a 1174 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 1: bowl and throw a snack bar in and heat it 1175 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 1: up in the microwave because I hate to cook. Eggs 1176 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 1: are a hot commodity. For a couple of weeks ago, 1177 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 1: they said, they said for holding everybody to a dozen. 1178 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: At one dozen eggs, I said, I can put people 1179 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 1: in my house. That's one breakfast. Um, when this whole 1180 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: thing blows over, tell me. If you're open for an experiment, 1181 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 1: we come and we put Gavi in your house and 1182 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Gavin does your daily duties as a fog for one day. 1183 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 1: I'll have your kids smoking cigars and cursing at you, 1184 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 1: but you compet. I'm open to the experiment. I'd love 1185 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: to see that you walk in the house like, oh, Dad, 1186 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 1: pull up a chair. I would I would pay good 1187 01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: money to watch that gav Afid, Buddy, you'd be fantastic. 1188 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,519 Speaker 1: I don't have to write a song, don't do it. 1189 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on with us, buddy. I miss your face. 1190 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll be able to do this in studio again soon. Um. 1191 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 1: Best to you and your family, buddy. I know you're 1192 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 1: taking care of them, but I hope everybody stays healthy 1193 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 1: and stay safe. Thanks man. I'd like to say one 1194 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 1: more thing. But I was young, I used to go 1195 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 1: to the zoo and I used to look at the 1196 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 1: animals and I was like, what are they doing? Why 1197 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 1: are they laying around? Get up and do something? Man. 1198 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 1: I respect it, how I get it. Someone was looking 1199 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: at my house now and they were like, get up 1200 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 1: or do something. I feel like, oh, I don't wait. 1201 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,559 Speaker 1: Speaking of the zoo and animals. You had to have 1202 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 1: watched Tiger King already. Have you watched it? I have, 1203 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 1: and you know what I heard? It was so good. 1204 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 1: I think it is a quarantine good. If I wasn't 1205 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:57,760 Speaker 1: quarantining about that, I'd be like, oh, man, I don't 1206 01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 1: think TV has ever seen a character ever like Joe exotic. Um. Okay, buddy, 1207 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 1: appreciate you jumping on. Thanks man. We'll talk soon. All right, 1208 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 1: we go one more, one more member of the how 1209 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,680 Speaker 1: Men Think crew. We're gonna touch base with my man Rick. Rick. 1210 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:23,880 Speaker 1: Where are you? I am at home? Of course? How 1211 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 1: are you guys? Doing good? Buddy, good man? How are you? 1212 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. Hanging in there. Yeah, we're all 1213 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,120 Speaker 1: hanging in there because you're good. You're hanging in there, 1214 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 1: or you're dying and you're hanging in there. It's what 1215 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean writing. I'm like, what what are the best 1216 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 1: and the worst hours of the day? The best hours 1217 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 1: of the day for me during this shelter and play 1218 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 1: In the morning, I wake up, I am got the 1219 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 1: coffee going, I'm out with the dog and my daughter 1220 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,960 Speaker 1: on a nice like a mile or two walk in 1221 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 1: the mornings like seven thirty eight o'clock and just really 1222 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 1: kind of spawning time with her, which is awesome. So um, 1223 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,759 Speaker 1: those are my favorite time. My worst least favorite times 1224 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 1: are like mid day, you know, like now two to four, 1225 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,639 Speaker 1: I was like, who somebody wants to talk to? Somebody 1226 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 1: wants to talk to Yeah cool, okay, Like I love it. 1227 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 1: I have friends still wow, But like those kind of 1228 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 1: you're also kind of downtime where you know, you feel 1229 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: like you want to take a nap, but you feel 1230 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,960 Speaker 1: like you should be exercising or doing something. When you 1231 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 1: know an actuality, it's you can be doing both, you know, 1232 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: so very very interesting time. Yeah, I feel like get 1233 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: the virus then get made the boredom will Yes, exactly, 1234 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 1: It's so true. Um, Like, you know, we try, my 1235 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 1: wife and I try to set up like these rules 1236 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,719 Speaker 1: not rules, but like okay, let's clean the house today, 1237 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,760 Speaker 1: or let's clean the kitchen. And I'm like, well, let's 1238 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,439 Speaker 1: instead of trying to commit to like a whole day 1239 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,479 Speaker 1: of one entire process like the cleaning of the house, 1240 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 1: let's break it up that way. It's like it's not 1241 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: so much of a job on us, or or it's 1242 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 1: it's just easier to kind of you know, oh I 1243 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,599 Speaker 1: just did two bathrooms or hey, I'm doing the kitchen today. Okay, cool. 1244 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 1: Then it's like it just makes it more manageable. Yeah, 1245 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,719 Speaker 1: how's the home school and going? How are the kids doing? Uh? 1246 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 1: You know Brooks like, I feel very fortunate in all 1247 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 1: of this right now, Like the kids are at a 1248 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:53,440 Speaker 1: perfect age their thirteen and eleven. Um, they're the homeschooling 1249 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 1: side of it's it's been pretty tricky. Um, the teachers 1250 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,839 Speaker 1: in the school district, you're putting out you know, videos, 1251 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,920 Speaker 1: they have video tap meetings, they have Google hangout meetings. Um, 1252 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 1: they're really involved in a lot of it. But on 1253 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 1: the other hand, it's like they're you know, if they 1254 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 1: do all their stuff for all their meetings or their 1255 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,800 Speaker 1: homework or or reading, they're done by you know, one 1256 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,120 Speaker 1: one o'clock one thirty, right, So then it's okay, now 1257 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,519 Speaker 1: what do I do? And that's why I feel fortunate. 1258 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 1: Our kids are at the age where they can kind 1259 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:23,760 Speaker 1: of go on their own, Like my sundle go out 1260 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 1: and he'll ride his bike around for an hour, come back, 1261 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 1: play video games. You know, they're they can sort of 1262 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 1: quarantine themselves within our quarantined home, which is really nice. UM. 1263 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 1: The homeschooling, it's been kind of tricky too because like 1264 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 1: last Friday, I think it was UM like there's sort 1265 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 1: of website thing like all shut down, like it broke 1266 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 1: or something, you know, there was a glitch or something, 1267 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 1: and so really there was no way to check on 1268 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,759 Speaker 1: the on the homework assignment. So it's it's been tricky. 1269 01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 1: But I do have to give credit to the district. 1270 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 1: They're working their tails off right now, and it's uh, 1271 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate that and I'm thankful for them. Still so good. 1272 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: How about you, what's your daily like are you still 1273 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:15,040 Speaker 1: working to right now? Yeah? Not as much. I mean 1274 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm I'm at home. Our office or our warehouse UM 1275 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 1: is operating like we have a small crew kind of 1276 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,800 Speaker 1: going in and out. We have like a we're like 1277 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,280 Speaker 1: an industrial warehouse section where we do like dismantling computers 1278 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,240 Speaker 1: and stuff. So we have a small crew going in 1279 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 1: out and if there's pickups. But I work with main 1280 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 1: mainly the tech companies, and so they're all working from 1281 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 1: home and so there's really not a lot going on UM. 1282 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 1: To be honest, we had a couple of pickups and 1283 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 1: a couple a couple of interactions and meetings and stuff 1284 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,599 Speaker 1: like that. But other than that, it's it's been pretty slow, dude. 1285 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,600 Speaker 1: It's it's just tough, you know, so um but you know, 1286 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,719 Speaker 1: and my wife works as well, she's in real estate, 1287 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,000 Speaker 1: and that's that's actually still going. But I think I 1288 01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,599 Speaker 1: got to see a drop here in the next month 1289 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:05,720 Speaker 1: or two, so we'll see. Yeah. But yeah, right, well, 1290 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 1: we miss you, buddy, We miss your face and you guys. 1291 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I miss you guys, man. I miss sitting around like 1292 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 1: that's the one thing, you know, I was I was 1293 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,920 Speaker 1: been thinking about during this whole quarantine. It's just I'm 1294 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 1: so thankful for so much like you, you kind of 1295 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,479 Speaker 1: take for granted what you do on a daily basis, 1296 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,560 Speaker 1: whether it's driving to the store, driving to the restaurant, 1297 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, going to a bar with your buddies. You're 1298 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: just all that sort of social interactions. Um, you know, 1299 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,400 Speaker 1: you lose a lot of that stuff on the on 1300 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:37,280 Speaker 1: the flip side though, So you know, I'm thankful that 1301 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 1: i'd actually get a lot with my family. You know, 1302 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 1: it's like you have a running but like it's been 1303 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 1: quality family time and you know, I don't care. You know, 1304 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 1: you look back on that and I'm like, I don't. 1305 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't do this. I don't, don't you know when 1306 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 1: my daughter all the time and go on walks and 1307 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,680 Speaker 1: I need to do more of that. And it's uh, 1308 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, for being locked in with each other, it's 1309 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:04,439 Speaker 1: it's been pretty good. It's been good. So that's awesome. Yeah, 1310 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,840 Speaker 1: good for you man. They did. Now they need to 1311 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,480 Speaker 1: find a curious that we can all get out again. Yeah, 1312 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:16,800 Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a vaccine for twelve to eighteen months, 1313 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 1: like they think it might be up till August next 1314 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,559 Speaker 1: year before they find an actual vaccine for it. Yeah, 1315 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,280 Speaker 1: that's what I'm that's what I'm hearing. It's a you know, 1316 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 1: hopefully they can find you know, some testing ways, which 1317 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,880 Speaker 1: I think you're working on obviously, and and you don't 1318 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,760 Speaker 1: get the vaccine going you know, who knows. We'll see, 1319 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's a wild time. Um yeah, how 1320 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 1: are you getting funny? We're good, We're um. Gaves Rock Roland. 1321 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,360 Speaker 1: He's playing country music for everybody in Nashville. He's blasting 1322 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,600 Speaker 1: his speakers as loud as he can and entertaining the 1323 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 1: town that I'm playing to the empty streets. It's like 1324 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 1: the start of day, Gavin, you go to the where 1325 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 1: he's there, You're still playing. You know what we're actually doing. Um, 1326 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 1: Gavin and I are really working hard on our duet, 1327 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 1: like we've been faith timing and just perfecting it. Um. 1328 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 1: I've been helping him out with vocals a little bit, 1329 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 1: like getting the more range, the kind of range that 1330 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: I have, all that kind of stuff. So yeah, true, 1331 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 1: And I've been showing him how to skate backwards. That's good. 1332 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 1: I'll get it. I'll get it. One of the You've 1333 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 1: got one of the cows on your back, looking forward 1334 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 1: and staring at your phone as you're skating backwards. I 1335 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. I don't know either. 1336 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:52,680 Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't hit that part of the internet yet. Yeah. Um, 1337 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 1: but you and the family are well and safe. Um, 1338 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:03,520 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see and sometime soon, buddy. Yeah. Likewise, Blaquise, 1339 01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't well. Yeah, man, great to hear 1340 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:14,439 Speaker 1: from me. Yeah likewise likewise yeah yeah, yeah, for the 1341 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:19,959 Speaker 1: real now for the real treat, gav Oh producer our producer, 1342 01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:32,360 Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman, welcome, save the best for laugh Fellas Sugerman say, 1343 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:38,759 Speaker 1: I would say the best slash most neurotic. For last, 1344 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,280 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear all that you've done for 1345 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:47,160 Speaker 1: during this quarantine time. Hopefully I don't disappoint you. I mean, 1346 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,880 Speaker 1: I feel pretty proud of myself that I'm not being 1347 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I'm handling it fairly well. 1348 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: But I'll go into the details. But first, obviously, I 1349 01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 1: want to say that I'm going to tell you every 1350 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 1: thing I'm doing, even though really my concern and prayers 1351 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,360 Speaker 1: are with all the people that are suffering or lost 1352 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,559 Speaker 1: their jobs or anything like that. But just to entertain you, Brooks, 1353 01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 1: I am willing to tell you the weird I'm doing. Yes, please, 1354 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,559 Speaker 1: because like you ordered a ten pound bag of rice 1355 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 1: there a month ago. So I did do a few 1356 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 1: things when I started. You know, I'm like a I'm 1357 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,200 Speaker 1: one of those threaks that's always kind of like seeing 1358 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,599 Speaker 1: what's happening on the internet and what are people doing. 1359 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,559 Speaker 1: And I watched I always have watched like a lot 1360 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,720 Speaker 1: of news. I would say probably the worst thing I'm 1361 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,360 Speaker 1: doing is I watched probably ten hours of CNN a day, 1362 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 1: which is probably bad. Like like when when Chris Cuomo 1363 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,519 Speaker 1: said he had it, it was like a very close 1364 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: cousin telling me they had it like I actually like 1365 01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: made a like a noise, like like a family member had, 1366 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 1: and I have been following him. So I feel very 1367 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 1: bonded to everyone on CNN right now. But I would 1368 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,799 Speaker 1: say the one thing that I'm probably overdoing is washing 1369 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 1: my hands. Not that you could do that, but my 1370 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:23,320 Speaker 1: hands are like bleeding. My knuckles are kind of bleeding, 1371 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 1: and like there's that like every time I touch a 1372 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 1: door handle, I keep feeling like I need to wash 1373 01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 1: my hands, even though my mom. I'm up in the 1374 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,400 Speaker 1: day area and my mom is here and she lives 1375 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 1: like two doors down. I'm very similar to Gavitt. I 1376 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,360 Speaker 1: don't know if he told you guys that he lives 1377 01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 1: very close to his dad. So my mom, he's saying 1378 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 1: to me, like, you're you're the only one touching the 1379 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,000 Speaker 1: door handles, so like you don't need to, Like I 1380 01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 1: feel like I'm contaminating myself sometimes, but I'm trying to 1381 01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:52,920 Speaker 1: be calm. I would say the other thing that I 1382 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 1: have really let go is my hair. I maybe we'll 1383 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 1: try and take a picture for you guys, because you 1384 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 1: know I get my hair colored every week. Okay, So 1385 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 1: my hair is gray. Oh, I have one other good one. 1386 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:12,160 Speaker 1: So my boyfriend was here chill. He had been coming over. 1387 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,559 Speaker 1: But now we're doing three weeks apart because they said 1388 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,560 Speaker 1: these are the two the next two ish weeks, you 1389 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,200 Speaker 1: really need to like lock it down. So we're doing 1390 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,040 Speaker 1: three weeks apart. So I did his laundry and I 1391 01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,000 Speaker 1: put his like sweats and shirt and sweatshirt. But he 1392 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,439 Speaker 1: left a pair of socks. So I will admit I've 1393 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:34,439 Speaker 1: been sleeping with the socks, like on the pillow next 1394 01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,679 Speaker 1: to you, or you know, like on the hello next 1395 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,679 Speaker 1: to me. There's nothing wrong with that, Brooks will talk later. 1396 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm try to think. I mean, other than that, I 1397 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,639 Speaker 1: just do like a lot of whiting and like I'm 1398 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,720 Speaker 1: not hoarding. I want everyone to know, like I'm I'm 1399 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,240 Speaker 1: like really good about that. I'm not doing any of 1400 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,080 Speaker 1: that weird stuff. Like I definitely have food for the 1401 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,040 Speaker 1: next two weeks. I don't have to go to the store. 1402 01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,639 Speaker 1: Um oh, I know what I did too. By a miracle, 1403 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,760 Speaker 1: I had some Nords from Bucks. Do you know what 1404 01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,919 Speaker 1: that is? So it's like when you shop at Nordstrom, 1405 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 1: when you shop at a certain amount, you get like 1406 01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,519 Speaker 1: three Nords from money when you use your Nords from card. 1407 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,479 Speaker 1: So I did have some Nords from Bucks saved up, 1408 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,439 Speaker 1: so I am shopping like that makes me feel kind 1409 01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,640 Speaker 1: of good. So I shop at Nordstrom and use my 1410 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 1: Nords from Bucks like I've been doing. I'm pretty good. 1411 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:36,599 Speaker 1: I mean I do fifteen feet of distance. I will 1412 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 1: say that I do fifteen feet of distance, and I 1413 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 1: did feel bad. I was in the grocery store and 1414 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I asked a woman some more distance. I was like, 1415 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,920 Speaker 1: could I have some more distance? And then let me 1416 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,720 Speaker 1: ask you a questions, Amy questions. If you're in an 1417 01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,560 Speaker 1: elevator and the door opens and someone wants to get in, 1418 01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,160 Speaker 1: what do you do? Well, I don't. I haven't been 1419 01:30:54,160 --> 01:31:01,800 Speaker 1: in an elevator since October of twenty eighteen. Yes, in 1420 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,800 Speaker 1: an elevator. If if you were a normal person and 1421 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,599 Speaker 1: you were in an elevator right now and the door 1422 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 1: open and someone wants to get in, what would you do? 1423 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't think I would do it. I don't what 1424 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,400 Speaker 1: did your building have an elevator? What are you doing 1425 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:27,719 Speaker 1: from the front of it and say I'll send it back. Yeah, 1426 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,400 Speaker 1: I would probably do the same, And mostly the reason 1427 01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,679 Speaker 1: would be because I want to keep my mom safe 1428 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,560 Speaker 1: and you want to keep your dad safe, and we're like, 1429 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:40,559 Speaker 1: who they have could take care of them? So I agree, 1430 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 1: and I think that anyone would be totally understanding, Like 1431 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: when I asked the lady at the grocery store for 1432 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,920 Speaker 1: more distance because we were in the check outline the 1433 01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,559 Speaker 1: grocery By the way, I don't know if anyone has 1434 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,559 Speaker 1: done this, but like, can we give a shout out 1435 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,480 Speaker 1: to the people at the grocery store? And like the CDs, 1436 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,160 Speaker 1: I think about that all the time, like because I 1437 01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,200 Speaker 1: don't like going the grocery store right now, and I'm 1438 01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,720 Speaker 1: only there with like what like thirty people. They have 1439 01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,880 Speaker 1: to be there all day with all the people, so 1440 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,519 Speaker 1: I just think those people. I mean, obviously doctor's, nurses, police, 1441 01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 1: fire all of it, but those grocery store people and 1442 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 1: the people driving the trucks and like the people delivering 1443 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:20,560 Speaker 1: my packages. It's like, God bless, I am quarantining my packages, 1444 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 1: which I'm waiting for some expert to tell me to 1445 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,920 Speaker 1: stop doing that, but I keep them for like a 1446 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 1: day or two outside. I got a question, are they giving? Uh? 1447 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:34,439 Speaker 1: Has anyone decided to give grocery store workers pharmacy workers. 1448 01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,080 Speaker 1: Are they giving them hazard ta yet at least for 1449 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:41,560 Speaker 1: the interim? I mean, let's hope. I don't know, Like 1450 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I think that they be rageous 1451 01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,200 Speaker 1: for that to happen, you know what I mean, because 1452 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,519 Speaker 1: they think that. I think the insta cart people were 1453 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:56,240 Speaker 1: asking for stuff too. Um yeah, because like those people 1454 01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:01,640 Speaker 1: are really saving everyone else by going and doing the 1455 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 1: shopping and delivering the packages. I am getting in a 1456 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,120 Speaker 1: crazy amount of packages. It's not gonna lie how many 1457 01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:13,800 Speaker 1: because m cannaday, No, that sounds excessive, But that's not 1458 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 1: only my fault because I did order like some some 1459 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:22,720 Speaker 1: canned goods from Target, but the Target is shipping them 1460 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:27,639 Speaker 1: quickly and separately, so it's not totally my fault. I'm 1461 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,080 Speaker 1: not being like super nuts with the packages. And like 1462 01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 1: I got lucky and something I wanted I found on 1463 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,599 Speaker 1: the internet and I only got one. So I feel 1464 01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,400 Speaker 1: like we all really need to help each other out. 1465 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,120 Speaker 1: My mom is going to try and color my hair 1466 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,280 Speaker 1: next week, though, so that is going to be that's 1467 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna be something amy. I might try and give myself 1468 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,720 Speaker 1: a mohawk. A lot of people are a lot of 1469 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 1: guys are shaving their heads. I've seen that a lot, 1470 01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:57,360 Speaker 1: but I'm not just doing it, mohawk. Has anyone asked 1471 01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 1: you how long that beard is gonna go? I'm not 1472 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,799 Speaker 1: a I'm percent on that beard, Brooks. It's like freaking 1473 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:07,599 Speaker 1: me out a little. Um it's I don't know, I'm 1474 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:12,120 Speaker 1: it's the longest I've ever had the beard in my life. Yeah. 1475 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,880 Speaker 1: Somedays I'm like, I'm gonna shave it. The other days like, 1476 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't give a damn. I'm up here in the 1477 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:18,760 Speaker 1: woods in Idaho. I spend all day in the woods 1478 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 1: with my dog. Why does it matter if I have 1479 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 1: a beard or I don't have a beard? Um? Well, 1480 01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,719 Speaker 1: if you could grow in the beard a little longer 1481 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,000 Speaker 1: and wear the right clothes, send the picture of us 1482 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:34,040 Speaker 1: dressed like a gnome under yard. Like my hair, someone 1483 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,400 Speaker 1: told me my hair was looking like Crystal Gale. Do 1484 01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,559 Speaker 1: you guys know who Crystal Gale is? No? Oh, yeah, 1485 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:43,920 Speaker 1: I remember Crystal when I was like five. Yeah, she's 1486 01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 1: really cute. But she has a really really long hair, 1487 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:47,840 Speaker 1: and my hair probably needs to cut. My mom may 1488 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:52,240 Speaker 1: try that too, but lord knows, you don't know. I 1489 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,960 Speaker 1: know you were talking about music. I say, make the music. 1490 01:34:56,040 --> 01:35:02,519 Speaker 1: Have you heard Thomas Rescue song? No, listen to it. 1491 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,760 Speaker 1: It's so good and it's like you got a year ago, 1492 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,840 Speaker 1: but it's perfect for right now. So I say, like, 1493 01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,200 Speaker 1: make your songs. Oh wait, can we talk about your 1494 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:16,439 Speaker 1: Kenny Roger special? That's up to you. I want to 1495 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 1: talk about it, so okay, I will say that was 1496 01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,160 Speaker 1: so sad that we lost Kenny Rogers, and I feel 1497 01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 1: like it got a little lost in all this, which 1498 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:30,519 Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody understands. But what saw Kenny Rogers passed away? 1499 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,680 Speaker 1: And there's a tribute on the eighth on CMT, and 1500 01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's like everyone's being from their living room 1501 01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,040 Speaker 1: and you're on it. What song are you doing? Oh? 1502 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm allowed to me? Can you 1503 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,360 Speaker 1: give us a hint? The surprise to surprise? But it 1504 01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,400 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite songs of all time. Um oh, 1505 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 1: going tell I love the Dreamer? Don't fall in love 1506 01:35:54,560 --> 01:36:05,200 Speaker 1: with a dreamer? Nope, I can't tell you. Everybody. Everybody 1507 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:10,280 Speaker 1: needs to watch the MT on the eight you're saying again, 1508 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 1: thank you. If it's going to be a big one, 1509 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big one. Dally Pardons on it, 1510 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 1: Uh Lady Annabellum's on it. Uh man, there's just there's 1511 01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,320 Speaker 1: just a there's a kind of act. That's kind of act. 1512 01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,479 Speaker 1: I hope someone sings islands in the stream. Maybe you're 1513 01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,920 Speaker 1: singing through the years. I also love through the years. 1514 01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:37,160 Speaker 1: No good. I wish you would give a hint, but 1515 01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,679 Speaker 1: we'll have to wait until what day will that be? Wednesday? 1516 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:51,400 Speaker 1: Let's see Wednesday on. I love you guys as your 1517 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:56,599 Speaker 1: face I missed coming into heart. I'll send you, guys 1518 01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:01,200 Speaker 1: a picture of my gray. It's really pretty. Uh send 1519 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:09,599 Speaker 1: it in Rogers gray. Yes, like it's totally great. I'll 1520 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 1: send a picture that, and I'll send a picture of 1521 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,320 Speaker 1: my guy's socks so everybody can see what. I want 1522 01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,519 Speaker 1: you to send a picture of Kenny Rodgers and then 1523 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:21,360 Speaker 1: of your gray. We can we who wore better? Who 1524 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:28,519 Speaker 1: wore it better? Um post a photo of you with 1525 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 1: laying in bed at the socks on your pillow. Well, 1526 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:37,559 Speaker 1: we can post the socks, but move me. I'm sending 1527 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,000 Speaker 1: the socks to Danielle right now. They're like super clean 1528 01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,599 Speaker 1: clean them there the yeah, and we got an indoor 1529 01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,640 Speaker 1: putting green. So I have been I and I that 1530 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,479 Speaker 1: that's like was a splurge, and I'm I don't want 1531 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,479 Speaker 1: to seem like, oh, I'm just lulling everything on the internet. 1532 01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,000 Speaker 1: But I did buy an indoor putting green and uh 1533 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,840 Speaker 1: so we practice our putting. He said. When I missed 1534 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,599 Speaker 1: him to just hit some cuts. I was like, okay, 1535 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:10,800 Speaker 1: there you go. Um, but he can't break up with 1536 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,400 Speaker 1: me until after all. This so good. We're good for 1537 01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:19,280 Speaker 1: a bit, guys, We're good for a bit. This goes 1538 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,520 Speaker 1: on for a long and long and long. I actually 1539 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,160 Speaker 1: I actually thought about that, but I'm not like. I 1540 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,439 Speaker 1: wanted to be over as quickly as we can and 1541 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,759 Speaker 1: get some good treatments going so we can help everybody 1542 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,640 Speaker 1: that needs the help. Yeah, maybe for Christmas, can you 1543 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:41,080 Speaker 1: have an ugly Christmas winter made? Usually his socks. Wait 1544 01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,360 Speaker 1: till you guys see the socks. I hope that's it's 1545 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. Um. I love you. Everybody. 1546 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,200 Speaker 1: Be safe, stay stay stay at home, wash your hands, 1547 01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:54,600 Speaker 1: stay at home, stay indoors door. You can go for 1548 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:55,880 Speaker 1: a walk. You can go for a walk, you can 1549 01:38:55,880 --> 01:39:00,560 Speaker 1: go for a walking. Okay, stay safe. Let's stay or 1550 01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,559 Speaker 1: stay active and stay safe. Either way, Um, Amy, look, 1551 01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,479 Speaker 1: you miss you have. I appreciate your time today, miss 1552 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:12,320 Speaker 1: you as well. But this whole thing, um and everybody 1553 01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 1: else out there, we just say that just sending our 1554 01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:16,960 Speaker 1: love to you guys. Thank you guys for listening, and 1555 01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,320 Speaker 1: more than ever, take care of one another, love one another, 1556 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see you back here next week for another 1557 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 1: episode of How Men Think