Speaker 1: R and B Money. We are Jake Valati. We are
Speaker 1: the authority on all R and B.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank.
Speaker 1: This the R and B Money. We're gonna call this
Speaker 1: Bay Area Audition.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know you don't you know, listen in honor
Speaker 3: of the R and B.
Speaker 1: You know, I moved my call around a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know what I say.
Speaker 2: I want this to be an authentic You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm finna pass it over, you know, for
Speaker 1: the first time. My brother, you know, know, the Silky
Speaker 1: one himself.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's the lovender himself, Jake Valentine, the Valentine you do.
Speaker 4: Today we got somebody really special. We got a young
Speaker 4: fellow that's really from the claw.
Speaker 5: Yeah, late night, late night, you fella.
Speaker 4: You know I mean not that that that past midnight,
Speaker 4: that that not that one am, but that he's come
Speaker 4: to bless us with his presence today, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? And in all his you know they said
Speaker 4: I'm light skinned. He a different type of las.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. You know, he got
Speaker 2: he got it laid down.
Speaker 6: He can take it out and show you the Lord Jesus. Yeah,
Speaker 6: hell to have straight from Oakland, California, Adria and Mars.
Speaker 7: Yeah the podcast having me baby that you're having me. Man,
Speaker 7: you're saying I'm the light skinned one. But bro, you
Speaker 7: still look like you'll go to Filmo, put a wig
Speaker 7: on a pig and make a gig though.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about is that how we started.
Speaker 7: Yes to edition.
Speaker 4: We have to see your collar can't be a pop
Speaker 4: right now because it's always up.
Speaker 1: If if be Nod would tell you anything what I'm saying, cool,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you send them in Milwaukee. It's Milwaukee. It's
Speaker 1: finest brother.
Speaker 2: Thank you, man, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know we have a good time off caramel,
Speaker 1: so you know we skip all the formalities. Man, just
Speaker 1: get right to men. We appreciate you brother for being
Speaker 1: here with us, for being family and just you know,
Speaker 1: we just wanted to make sure you get an opportunity,
Speaker 1: you know, to talk your talk and tell your story
Speaker 1: because you know, for us it's all necessary, all of it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And the gift that you have to have a place, yeah,
Speaker 1: to dwell and be comfortable and come and express themselves.
Speaker 2: And that's what this place is.
Speaker 7: I feel real R and B.
Speaker 1: No. The extra level to that is just taking the
Speaker 1: shirt off and just having a vest.
Speaker 7: There you go, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then that's when you get to your Joe to see.
Speaker 7: I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, it's gonna be a lot of pivot this episode.
Speaker 7: I don't notice it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be a whole lot of a
Speaker 2: lot of goal.
Speaker 7: Keep game.
Speaker 1: You know, we always you know, we always like to
Speaker 1: go to the beginning, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: you know, so many people, so many people want to
Speaker 1: get started. Yeah, you know, so many people have the talent,
Speaker 1: so many people, you know, have all of these all
Speaker 1: of the things that come along with what you're born
Speaker 1: with and what's in you, but don't know how to
Speaker 1: get there. Right, Let's start with when you found out
Speaker 1: you was born with it, when you knew you had it,
Speaker 1: or when somebody told you that.
Speaker 7: I mean, that was that was young man, you know,
Speaker 7: that was I was like before middle school, real knee high,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I mean once I once
Speaker 7: I hit a note and the and the chicks start,
Speaker 7: you feel me acting up. It was like, oh, this
Speaker 7: is a thing, you know, what I mean this is,
Speaker 7: this is a feeling. And then after that, man, I
Speaker 7: think it was it had to be Bro one hundred
Speaker 7: percent genuine Bro dropped And at that point, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Drip had to drop. You feel me?
Speaker 7: Excuse me, but you feel me. That's that's kind of
Speaker 7: like what set the tone because I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 7: nigga looked like me. You know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 7: you feel this.
Speaker 2: He's the class.
Speaker 5: Way, but you feel me.
Speaker 7: But it was it was at that point, man like
Speaker 7: in the way it was affecting people because it went
Speaker 7: from the girls my age to the teachers, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, and then and and the adults and ship.
Speaker 7: That's that's like, man, they pulling me out of out
Speaker 7: of class and ship to come you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: singing or whatever, you know. And my mom got pissed
Speaker 7: me one time.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: It was a p t A meeting.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: I got up there and you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: saying some jodousy you know what I'm saying, A yeah,
Speaker 7: I was singing at the PTA meetings, bro, you know,
Speaker 7: for the for the parents.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of cases, right, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of cases right now coming on me. There's another
Speaker 1: we don't just saying. You know, you know, sometimes the
Speaker 1: teachers can't help themselves.
Speaker 7: It'd be like that, it'd be like that, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm kids, man, But no, man, it was uh
Speaker 7: at that point, man, it was just the way I
Speaker 7: felt though, the way I felt like doing it. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. How you affect you know, affect people,
Speaker 7: I mean, change their moods, you know what i mean,
Speaker 7: change they change attitudes and stuff like that. So, I
Speaker 7: mean that's when I knew young, you know. And I
Speaker 7: think my mom she she peeped at early too, that
Speaker 7: it was something that was that was in my flesh,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, that it was gonna happen
Speaker 7: one way or another. So she jumped on it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: She kept me in so many programs and ship to
Speaker 7: where it's like at this point now so versatile, you know,
Speaker 7: and and it's not just R and B for me,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, like training classical and jazz
Speaker 7: and all these other genres and shit. And I think
Speaker 7: at that point it was it was something not I know,
Speaker 7: I just had to take it serious, man, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, I wanted to be a true representation.
Speaker 7: You know. It started out for the family, but then
Speaker 7: you know, a group of like the Bay you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in her in her support of view, Yeah,
Speaker 1: did did she have any avenues or new people in
Speaker 1: terms of trying to get you to that space? Or
Speaker 1: was just like it was.
Speaker 7: All about figuring out, figuring it out, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Like she was she was at a space
Speaker 7: where you know what I mean, She's in the newspapers,
Speaker 7: she's you know, looking up shit, you know, trying to
Speaker 7: figure out. She was really just trying to do anything
Speaker 7: that would keep me off the streets, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, because you know how it is in the
Speaker 7: town Oakland, Brough. It's easy to get distracted, It's easy
Speaker 7: to fall into the shit, you know. So she just
Speaker 7: wanted to keep me busy.
Speaker 5: So she did her own research.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, And I went to What changed it all
Speaker 7: was when I went to Oakland School for the Arts
Speaker 7: that's in downtown, you know what I mean. And at
Speaker 7: that point they had just had their first year, so
Speaker 7: it was only ninth and tenth grade, you know, so
Speaker 7: when I came, it was only two years there, man,
Speaker 7: so I had time to be noticed and be and
Speaker 7: really honed in. You know what I'm saying. You had
Speaker 7: all these all these people from around the world that
Speaker 7: was coming in, whether it was acting, vocal, h illustrations,
Speaker 7: whatever it is, like they was coming in and really
Speaker 7: going in with us. You know. So man, for four years,
Speaker 7: five eight to five thirty, every day you feel me
Speaker 7: music and vocal and.
Speaker 5: Oh so when you so when you first went there,
Speaker 5: it was nineteen tenth, but you.
Speaker 7: But by every year it's stocked on. Yeah. So even
Speaker 7: like you know, uh, the Klanis and Zendayas and stuff
Speaker 7: started to come in as they started to build their
Speaker 7: their network and everything like their network. So every year
Speaker 7: we stacked on another grade, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: And until it got once they got twelfth grade, then
Speaker 7: they started to bring in middle school and all that.
Speaker 7: You know. So I mean, like I said, it was
Speaker 7: right in the heart of downtown man. You know, like
Speaker 7: we was in the We was in the parking lot
Speaker 7: of the Fox, you know what I mean, rocking like that.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: So that was where it all kicked off for me,
Speaker 7: like her keeping me in the realm of just artistry,
Speaker 7: just all day round, artists all day, whether it was dancers, singers, actors.
Speaker 7: You feel me. Like if I went to Skyline, Brad,
Speaker 7: I had like eight kids. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 7: about eleven braid. You feel me. It's it just it
Speaker 7: would have been too much.
Speaker 5: You can know the Skyline. But I've been up to Skyline.
Speaker 7: I've been up to Skyland. You know I got into
Speaker 7: enough trouble going up to Skyline. You feel me.
Speaker 2: But what Skyline give me?
Speaker 4: To give me the it's the place in Oakland where
Speaker 4: and I'm from San Francisco, so it was a whole
Speaker 4: nother travel for me. Like, it's the place in Oakland
Speaker 4: where you will find what you're looking. When you're looking
Speaker 4: for everything, you will find with you everything.
Speaker 5: They are there.
Speaker 7: You want problems, go there, you want a bad one,
Speaker 7: you want go there.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 5: It's that school. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That's school.
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, and that's what it would have been at
Speaker 7: You feel me. But you know she she made sure man,
Speaker 7: she kept me focused. Man I was. I was in
Speaker 7: so many Young Musicians programs at U see Berkeley's and
Speaker 7: things like that. Bro I didnd no time to really
Speaker 7: kick it. So a lot of my early years was
Speaker 7: all about if this is what you're gonna do, you're
Speaker 7: gonna do it twenty four to seven. You no, No,
Speaker 7: I'm the youngest though, you know, so you figure, you know,
Speaker 7: you to focus. Yeah, the focus was able to be
Speaker 7: directly on me, like everybody was gone doing their thing,
Speaker 7: you feel me. So it was like, okay, we want
Speaker 7: to we need to see something out of you. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. Any mistakes that was made early on,
Speaker 7: it's like I'm getting the butt of at Like you
Speaker 7: can't go hang out because we know what happens when
Speaker 7: when when you know what I'm saying, we let our
Speaker 7: kids go hang out, you feel me. So it just
Speaker 7: kept me focused. Man. So now when I when I
Speaker 7: think about it, doing this, having this career, man, and
Speaker 7: being in this field, it's always say, man, it's perfect
Speaker 7: for me, you know what I mean. Like it's the
Speaker 7: long hours you foree me, the early mornings, late nights,
Speaker 7: you feel me, the instant travel, the changes, the audibles,
Speaker 7: all of that, Like it's all it's all part of
Speaker 7: what I grew up doing. And really this school prepared
Speaker 7: you for absolutely. I'll never I'll never shit on them
Speaker 7: for that, man, always say. It was probably like the
Speaker 7: beginning of it all, Like you know, we get to school, man,
Speaker 7: you think you finna go. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: regular ass day man, they're like, hey, check it out.
Speaker 7: You you, you, you, and you y'all. Come on, we
Speaker 7: got to go to LA. We got to go get
Speaker 7: this money. You know what I'm saying, because it was
Speaker 7: it wasn't like tuition base. It wasn't tuition based. It
Speaker 7: wasn't like you're paying to go there's a charter school.
Speaker 7: So they got to get their money out of the city.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. They got to get their
Speaker 7: money off of like donations and sponsorships. So we got
Speaker 7: to go over here. We gotta sell it. So you
Speaker 7: and you come on.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying for these people today, yeah you feel me.
Speaker 7: And next thing you know, you come out and they
Speaker 7: got a bag and we ain't have to do no
Speaker 7: homework and forget that test. Don't worry you passed. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That said he early music, business, business, football scholarship.
Speaker 7: To me learned I learned early on. I learned early on, bro,
Speaker 7: it is how much you're worth. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: what how much? How much can you show out like
Speaker 7: when the show turned, when the light come on, like
Speaker 7: what you about to do? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: And when you show out that time and they see
Speaker 7: all we can depend on it, it's like we calling
Speaker 7: your number every time, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 7: I went from the newbie there that was like you know,
Speaker 7: you ain't getting no solos because it Yordy and ship
Speaker 7: like that. It's like, nah, put him in you know,
Speaker 7: it's all these singers and in me because he had
Speaker 7: he had value value to it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Because I gave I gave it ship, bro, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. It was like I wanted to be
Speaker 7: the best. I wanted to be up there with the
Speaker 7: best you feel me doing me? So that's always been
Speaker 7: the goal for me, Ship even today. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. I want to be the best version of
Speaker 7: me you feel me in this game.
Speaker 1: It's just about being like having some sort of early
Speaker 1: upbringing in this kind of thought process in order to
Speaker 1: truly truly be.
Speaker 2: Prepared for for it not to be a shock.
Speaker 1: For sure, when you get thrown into that fire, you know,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because that's a lot of what happens
Speaker 1: to artists, you know, when when when they when they when.
Speaker 2: They take a real hit.
Speaker 1: They aren't prepared for any of that because the ship
Speaker 1: looks cool on the outside, but the ship that's really
Speaker 1: going on on the undercurrent like nasty, like the music
Speaker 1: and all the ship that you actually see. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's fifteen percent of it. That other eighty.
Speaker 7: Five let me tell you.
Speaker 2: Just trying to get to the state.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, for sure. You gotta love this shit, man.
Speaker 2: You you have no clo you have no choice.
Speaker 7: You have to love it. And if you don't, you
Speaker 7: either you're either gonna love it or you're gonna are
Speaker 7: you gonna regret?
Speaker 5: It has to be an obsession, yeah, period. It has
Speaker 5: to be an obsession.
Speaker 4: For sure, because there there are there's nothing pre set.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, nothing guaranteed at all.
Speaker 7: There's no there's no yeah, nothing.
Speaker 4: That obsession has to get you over that heel most
Speaker 4: of the time, not even something you people are like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know some of the time, you just gotta go no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: all of the time, all the time, because you have
Speaker 4: to be able to meet those those moments. Yeah, when
Speaker 4: it's your moment, like you said you want, you were
Speaker 4: like I need it for I need it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want it. I want It's like you know,
Speaker 7: you you're playing ball, like, don't get a niggave rock
Speaker 7: who don't want the ball the last shot?
Speaker 5: So were they setting y'all up? Obviously they were preparing
Speaker 5: you guys creatively?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but were they also Are there business classes at
Speaker 4: this school too?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 7: At this point, it was pure creation. It was pure
Speaker 7: creative space. You know what I'm saying. I think that
Speaker 7: that was the only thing that was lacking. So for
Speaker 7: me coming into this business, this this this industry. For me,
Speaker 7: that was college for me. I didn't go to college,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I looked at it like,
Speaker 7: you know, I got I got accepted to Berkeley College
Speaker 7: of Music, Boston, you know what I'm saying, UCLA, all
Speaker 7: these dope as schools and shit. You know, I auditioned
Speaker 7: for that in eleventh grade and got accepted so at
Speaker 7: a scholarship. But for me, it was like Mom, if
Speaker 7: I go there, it's gonna be ugly, Like you're finna
Speaker 7: let me out on my own after all these years
Speaker 7: of like straight booked up, busy all day, every day, weekends,
Speaker 7: all of that. You know what I'm saying, Like I'm
Speaker 7: gonna let loose, you know. But coming into this industry, though, man,
Speaker 7: that's when you know, I found out the real shit,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And I told myself, Like
Speaker 7: when I was about to sign my first deal, like,
Speaker 7: you know, there was you know, usually you know, you
Speaker 7: had that voice, that voice of God or whatever that
Speaker 7: is for you that you know what I'm saying, you're
Speaker 7: listening to, like hold on, don't do that. You know, wait,
Speaker 7: hold on, you know what I'm saying. When it was
Speaker 7: trying to sign that deal, bro, it was silent, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So it was just me and
Speaker 7: my thoughts and my feeling. And I remember telling myself, bro, look,
Speaker 7: if I want to be a doctor, I'm gonna spend
Speaker 7: twelve years in school. If I want to be a lawyer,
Speaker 7: i'ma spend twelve years in school. I'm like, look this contract,
Speaker 7: say five years, it's college. Whatever I learned at this
Speaker 7: point is what I learned. Whether it worked, whether whether
Speaker 7: I win or lose on this, it's gonna be a
Speaker 7: lesson and I'm gonna keep going anyway, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So I signed it, you know, and I
Speaker 7: look at myself today like, man, that's the best thing
Speaker 7: I could have did was go through that shit, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean, have a record and find out
Speaker 7: what it means to not be on the publishing of it,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. To find out what it
Speaker 7: means to not make royalties on that one, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like to find out like that show
Speaker 7: money you feel me, the difference between that and that
Speaker 7: long back end money and all that. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like the networking, you feel me, allow too
Speaker 7: many people to do it for you, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So going through that and experiencing it man,
Speaker 7: and being able to be here like and still be
Speaker 7: able to push man, still be able to work, man,
Speaker 7: and still hold the weight. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's like, Yeah, I did exactly what I was supposed
Speaker 7: to do, and I went through that ship and learn
Speaker 7: what I needed to so I can come back now
Speaker 7: on my p's and q's.
Speaker 5: You know, was your first deal a major deal or
Speaker 5: did you do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you didn't go through the production deal the
Speaker 4: indie deals. No, straight to a major straight Yeah, that
Speaker 4: was a Universe Republican L seven.
Speaker 7: Wow, first deal, first deal, straight to it.
Speaker 5: So what's so that process for you? How did that go?
Speaker 4: Because it's like you just you just yeah, how did
Speaker 4: you get there?
Speaker 7: So Yancey Richardson you feel me, you'll know your friend
Speaker 7: of our Yeah, you feel you feel me. He had
Speaker 7: a group at the time, Hamilton Park. Yeah, Park and
Speaker 7: my boys, you know what I mean. And uh, I
Speaker 7: was seeing them because because they're one of the producers
Speaker 7: beat Rock, who was from from the Bay, he went
Speaker 7: out there to work on a lot of their music.
Speaker 7: So we were hearing a lot of this Hamilton Park thing.
Speaker 7: And then that a Bee got her deal with Yance.
Speaker 7: So now both of those deals were at Atlantic in Atlantic.
Speaker 7: So now in my position, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: being from the band looking at this and seeing Nedda
Speaker 7: and all that, like, oh ship, like I ain't I
Speaker 7: ain't heard it of like this, like she going in,
Speaker 7: she killing, like's going crazy, like it's moving. So when
Speaker 7: I got the call, it's like, man, young young man,
Speaker 7: we want to bring you out here and work on
Speaker 7: some music. So I'm like, say less, I didn't even
Speaker 7: tell my parents till it was like the day before.
Speaker 5: I leave this one.
Speaker 7: She had to be like twenty two Oka, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean. So I'm like, I'm out. You know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. I got a flight in six hours.
Speaker 8: So you get it out, get it out.
Speaker 5: Gone, think about playing, Think about what y'all told me
Speaker 5: on the playe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, exactly, gotta go, you feel me? And yeah, man,
Speaker 7: I flew out and I remember my pops telling me, like, man,
Speaker 7: stop telling people that you that you're going out there
Speaker 7: for thirty days. You might go out there and come
Speaker 7: back tomorrow. It might be all bad. I'm like, man,
Speaker 7: you not you understand even if it's all bad, I
Speaker 7: ain't coming back. I ain't coming back. Claire.
Speaker 5: So you were Atlanta or Atlanta? Yeah?
Speaker 7: So y yans flew me out. Man to Atlanta, he
Speaker 7: was in I was in the basement for like I
Speaker 7: got out there. Man, it was supposed to be thirty days.
Speaker 7: We work on a record a day, you know, we
Speaker 7: get a demo and we go, you know, shoot it
Speaker 7: to some labels, you know, the usual. Man, that shit
Speaker 7: turned into five years that I lived in Atlanta. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, and through that time, Bro, I
Speaker 7: remember it was times. You know, I respect Yance for
Speaker 7: his his motives, like how he how he would work
Speaker 7: because you know, you could tell men you're in the basement. Man,
Speaker 7: you're not seeing daylight. You know what I'm saying. All
Speaker 7: you doing is recording and all day long you feel me.
Speaker 7: It was like boot camp. You feel me and for
Speaker 7: you it's like you're not seeing nothing. So you're gonna
Speaker 7: get weird. You You're finla be like, man, I'm not
Speaker 7: doing this. I'm ready to go, you know. And then
Speaker 7: he'll be like, man, come come take a ride, and
Speaker 7: then we'll go pull up the tree sound and Tank
Speaker 7: will come outside and get in the car and listen
Speaker 7: to some music. You know, is this Tank sitting up
Speaker 7: here in the front seat listening and shit like, wow,
Speaker 7: all right, we can go a little longer, keep going.
Speaker 5: Let's keep going, you.
Speaker 7: Know what I'm saying. So but we we did. We
Speaker 7: did a bunch of records. Man, Jane Hancock. We had
Speaker 7: Jane come out, man and super crazy, right, Jane came
Speaker 7: out man. The crazy part is we had other writers
Speaker 7: that he had originally that were known wrote for Chris Brown,
Speaker 7: writing for Trey Soon's righting for all these people. We
Speaker 7: couldn't find the sound though, We couldn't find the blend
Speaker 7: you feel me. But when Jane came out, that's when
Speaker 7: it locked because it was like, yeah, you're talking about
Speaker 7: this Bay area. You know what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 7: it has to be with them. Yeah, me and Jane
Speaker 7: was righting there, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 7: what kind of that's what threw everybody off, Like, oh shit.
Speaker 7: So at that point, man, we just was doing records
Speaker 7: all day long, every day, man. And and then we
Speaker 7: went to when we were ready, we went to uh
Speaker 7: to Republic. We hollowed that couch K coach K stepped
Speaker 7: in man, pulled some strings, pulled some plays, man, and
Speaker 7: and made a shape. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 7: walked up there, man, I'm thinking we got to go
Speaker 7: sell it to the Universal.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: They're like, no, no, no, no, we want you off. No,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So we get up there, man,
Speaker 7: and they're like, no, it's good. I'm ready to jump up.
Speaker 1: And I'm ready to get to the table.
Speaker 7: Yeah exactly. She's like, you know, Wendy Ghostly, sit down,
Speaker 7: It's all good. You know. They threw the deal at
Speaker 7: us man, and from there bro like you know, we
Speaker 7: did the seven days a week, you know, we did
Speaker 7: the way we had waiting out man, and that that
Speaker 7: kind of kicked it off and opened up a fan base,
Speaker 7: especially in the Bay Area because I was gone, hadn't
Speaker 7: been back in like three years. So we started dropping
Speaker 7: and then they pulled ultimate play with that two Am.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean that that came our way. Man.
Speaker 7: It took me forever to record it because I didn't
Speaker 7: I didn't like it. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 7: was so outside of what I felt. I was on
Speaker 7: like the same you know what I'm saying, I'm trying
Speaker 7: to I'm trying to, like, really do this. I'm like again,
Speaker 7: I'm listening to the tank and and all that. I'm like,
Speaker 7: I'm trying to do no two Am. I'm trying to
Speaker 7: sing you feel me. But you know, they convinced me
Speaker 7: to finally do it, man, and I think you did it,
Speaker 7: Uh Krishan, Uh Kyle and my boy aunt Franks. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so they all they all pinned that, and they pulled
Speaker 7: up on me in Atlanta because I was I was
Speaker 7: avoiding it every time I was out here Dan avoiding.
Speaker 7: We get to the studio, I'm like, we're done. Times up,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. We can't do that one.
Speaker 5: With that song, with that song, you're running from it.
Speaker 7: I'm running down me. And finally I get a call
Speaker 7: like at like one in the morning from Yeah. It's
Speaker 7: like I need you to you know the usual ship,
Speaker 7: I need you to come to studio right now record
Speaker 7: we record this record, like we record the record by
Speaker 7: like come on. So we drive from from Panola Road
Speaker 7: all the way to Snellville. You know, I'm saying, pull up.
Speaker 7: These niggas are standing outside like in a line like
Speaker 7: I'm finna get jumped, like, look, you got to record
Speaker 7: this record, like we need you to record this record.
Speaker 7: So I did it, man and ship bro it might
Speaker 7: had to be like two three weeks. Man, that shit
Speaker 7: was out, Like I don't even remember the process.
Speaker 5: Was it out with Sage on it?
Speaker 7: No, So at first it came out by itself, and
Speaker 7: then they pulled the play to get Sage on it.
Speaker 7: And then when Sage jumped on it, it just took
Speaker 7: that way like you feel me, it was gone. So
Speaker 7: I mean at that point, it was like, shit, whether
Speaker 7: I like it or not, let's go singing rest of
Speaker 7: my life. You know, that ship just just you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. We just put up a live just
Speaker 7: do a live performance thing out that I did. Man,
Speaker 7: shit went viral and shit, I'm like the song is
Speaker 7: what it is. Man, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 7: might not have been my cup of tea because I
Speaker 7: felt like you had Tie Dollar signed paranoid out, you
Speaker 7: had Chris Brown. These holes ain't loyal like a Marion
Speaker 7: supposed to be, like this is the sound.
Speaker 5: They were trying to make you fit into that outfitting of.
Speaker 7: The algorithm exactly.
Speaker 4: And that's a tough and that's a tough that's a
Speaker 4: tough space for an artists.
Speaker 2: For pure especially artists.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean. That's that's it really is.
Speaker 4: It's a tough space where you have to ask yourself,
Speaker 4: do I want this ship to take care of me?
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure? Or do I just want to be
Speaker 5: you know, in this.
Speaker 4: Creative nigga walking around with the motherfucking wisdom things in sense? Yeah,
Speaker 4: saving rooms Listen, I know some very talented yeah niggas
Speaker 4: walking around.
Speaker 5: Saving room for surell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got they used they use black soap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, they held up on all the earth niggas
Speaker 1: been before the Panoramic.
Speaker 7: Two AM came out twenty fourteen. I got dropped twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: So yes, you put out seven days a week and
Speaker 4: that's the only project you put out.
Speaker 7: I put out seven days a week twenty thirteen, and
Speaker 7: it led to that led to the deal, and then
Speaker 7: with that because we used those records to get the deal, okay,
Speaker 7: and then from there it went to two AM. But
Speaker 7: with seven days a week, they had to go back
Speaker 7: because they didn't believe in seven days a week. There
Speaker 7: was like, we don't focus on the waiting and all
Speaker 7: of that. So we put it again. We put it
Speaker 7: out in the streets. We started in the bay and
Speaker 7: then we started flooding Atlanta and all that. And then
Speaker 7: at that that point the label had to go back
Speaker 7: and get everything cleared because we were I mean, we
Speaker 7: was putting it together.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 7: We had Ross verses from other songs a capella that
Speaker 7: we was putting on there, so people was thinking that
Speaker 7: Ross had jumped on the record, and really, you feel me, yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're saying the
Speaker 7: finesse like it was finessing. So I mean it was
Speaker 7: an ultimate play for people to be like, okay, cool.
Speaker 7: So when we had to go back and revamp, it
Speaker 7: was like you can only we only were able to
Speaker 7: take three or four of those records and actually put
Speaker 7: them out, you know, and put them up. So that's
Speaker 7: when they went back and started, you know, fucking with us.
Speaker 7: And then we did Week after Next in between two Am.
Speaker 7: So to us, that was how we keep We kept
Speaker 7: ourselves afloat and I'm not going to depend on the
Speaker 7: label because They're not going to push this. So they
Speaker 7: didn't like Week after Next either, And to me, that
Speaker 7: changed a lot of music. That changed the sound because
Speaker 7: right before that was right before bryceon Tiler and the
Speaker 7: Tory Lanez and all them started coming out, it was
Speaker 7: a lot of that type of music that we were doing.
Speaker 7: We were underground doing that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So to hear we were calling it, we were calling
Speaker 7: it ratchet soul, you know what I'm saying. Like, we
Speaker 7: kept saying Ratchett, so this is ratchets, so ratches so
Speaker 7: and next thing I know, it trapsoul drops and.
Speaker 9: It's that it's that. It's that and you could either
Speaker 9: like be hella mad or be like all right on
Speaker 9: to the next I guess shit, you know.
Speaker 7: And that's just kind of like throughout that throughout all
Speaker 7: that period of time between twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen
Speaker 7: was a hard a hard look at what the business
Speaker 7: is and experience what that really was. And that was
Speaker 7: the time where you figure out, Man, is this am
Speaker 7: I really finna do this? Like is this for me?
Speaker 7: Or you know what I'm saying, do I need to
Speaker 7: go get a nine to five? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 7: fuck that, I ain't clocking in on nobody time, Like
Speaker 7: I'm gonna just figure this out, you know what i mean.
Speaker 7: So from there, just like a lot of independent projects
Speaker 7: like GMFU, you know what I'm saying. And then you know,
Speaker 7: at that point, for me, I needed to take an
Speaker 7: extra step back, man, because I started to feel like
Speaker 7: I'm depending on too many people, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Like I'm depending on other people to talk for me.
Speaker 7: I'm depending on other people to come in here and
Speaker 7: pin records that will keep you in the algorithm or
Speaker 7: you know, produce or whatever. And again you're falling into
Speaker 7: that play where it's like I'm getting records, but he
Speaker 7: has this record, she got this record, he got this
Speaker 7: I'm sick of this shit. I'm sick of like, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, don't give me nothing that you
Speaker 7: didn't give a thousand other people. So for me, I
Speaker 7: had to take a step back from everything. So I
Speaker 7: took a step back from management, took a step back
Speaker 7: from just the business itself, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: to like go into my own realm and be like,
Speaker 7: what is publishing? What is what is? What is these mechanicals?
Speaker 7: What is?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 7: How how many? How many ways can I get paid
Speaker 7: off my music? Because I've only been getting paid off
Speaker 7: one way, you know what I'm saying, Like I've only
Speaker 7: been getting that show money. But when your record slows down,
Speaker 7: that slows down completely, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 7: there's no back end that's coming in. You know what
Speaker 7: I mean, There's no because again you're a newbie, so
Speaker 7: you kind of like just think, hey man, I'm just
Speaker 7: trying to get it. So whatever y'all need to take,
Speaker 7: y'all take that, and we're gonna we're gonna coast off that.
Speaker 7: We're gonna take that and build off of that. You know.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's a catch twenty two because at the
Speaker 7: same time you learn the hard way. But shit, I
Speaker 7: have success based around those you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: That that whole play two am you know whatever. Where
Speaker 7: it's like today, I can still walk in someplace and
Speaker 7: they're like, oh, yeah, that's mister Twem. That's put that
Speaker 7: shit on right now, that's him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So you I was able to build a fan base
Speaker 7: off of this time with the label, and again, like
Speaker 7: I said when I first started, it's gonna be college,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? And once I go through it,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, I need to come out smarter,
Speaker 7: I need to come out better, you know. So that's
Speaker 7: when the direction changed. I took I took my time,
Speaker 7: and ended up meeting my boy sonny Bee, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. And from there that's where shit really
Speaker 7: got got crazy because I was able to take those
Speaker 7: experiences and also take the time of stepping back and
Speaker 7: clearing my head and figuring out, like, all right, man,
Speaker 7: everything that I was taught that you know, this machine
Speaker 7: teaches you how you have to run and how you
Speaker 7: have to move. I got to get out of that.
Speaker 7: I gotta I gotta throw all that shit away and
Speaker 7: create this.
Speaker 5: Then you also did some acting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah too in between that been blessed to do it.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. We did the Bobby the
Speaker 7: Bar story. You know, I got to you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying, lace front.
Speaker 1: Player to yah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So it was it was real cool. We met James
Speaker 7: years ago, you know what you feel me? They all was,
Speaker 7: they all was on that ship, you know. But it
Speaker 7: was cool, man. It was something that we was talking
Speaker 7: about for a lot a long time. Actually, Like I
Speaker 7: had the script three years before it came out, and
Speaker 7: at first it was a different director. They were going in,
Speaker 7: they was, they was talking about it all. You know,
Speaker 7: I'm talking about I'm on a plane in New York
Speaker 7: and by the end of the script, I'm up ship.
Speaker 7: Like through the script though, Wow, this is crazy. And
Speaker 7: then I think that, you know, because it was TV one,
Speaker 7: is like, we got to scale this back. We can't,
Speaker 7: we can't show all of this. We got to figure
Speaker 7: out a way how do we present this, you know
Speaker 7: for the masses to the lifetime. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So we you know, we we you know,
Speaker 7: switched up some things and ship. But at the same time,
Speaker 7: brother to be able to go into that, man, I remember, like,
Speaker 7: you know, my pops is an actor, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Yeah, my pops came up with Denzel, with
Speaker 7: del Roy and all of them like great friends with
Speaker 7: with a lot of them, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: and went to act, you know what i mean, one
Speaker 7: of the only it was only about three or four
Speaker 7: black actors that were able to be in the school
Speaker 7: at that time, because just in that time, it was
Speaker 7: like that, like you feel me, you know, a lot
Speaker 7: of them weren't actually in the school. They were a
Speaker 7: part of the side program that had to do it.
Speaker 7: But you know, like Denzel, my Popsdale Roy, like like that,
Speaker 7: they were a part of the actual program. So he
Speaker 7: was an actor, man, But he had hell the kids
Speaker 7: from the bay, you know, from the town, and a
Speaker 7: lot of kids, you feel me. So he had to
Speaker 7: make a decision, man, like either I'm going to push
Speaker 7: and probably lose the family and have some wild kids
Speaker 7: running out here going crazy, or I'm I'm gonna sit
Speaker 7: this down. I'm gonna do something else, you know, and
Speaker 7: still very successful, was able to start his own business.
Speaker 7: Man put a lot of people in position, give a
Speaker 7: lot of jobs to a lot of black people, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. But because of that, Man, I
Speaker 7: went to him. I was like, Man, I got this
Speaker 7: opportunity for this role. I need you to work with me.
Speaker 7: You know, started working with a man and my dad
Speaker 7: is tough like so he's like, you sure you want
Speaker 7: to do this because you're not really You're not really
Speaker 7: that good right now. Like I'm not feeling that about
Speaker 7: to embarrass it. I'm not feeling this.
Speaker 2: What do you do.
Speaker 7: Right I don't know what you're going on, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They got anything from me? Man, I can make shine.
Speaker 1: I think I could put the family on you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You know, but but he worked for me, Man. He
Speaker 7: gave me you know what I mean, he did. He
Speaker 7: did you know that experience? Man put it in on me. Man,
Speaker 7: and we worked for like a couple of hours.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: I remember, I'm trying to like, you know, I got it.
Speaker 7: I got a tough scene, Like I got a scene
Speaker 7: where it's like the climax of the movie, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, where you find out what was really
Speaker 7: going on, you know, And for me, I'm thinking, you know,
Speaker 7: I gotta be crying. So I'm in the I'm in
Speaker 7: the bathroom trying to method act minds off, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, And finally I'm tearing up. I'm running
Speaker 7: upstairs like look, look, look I got the tears.
Speaker 2: It's time.
Speaker 10: It's tough.
Speaker 7: First time.
Speaker 1: Do it.
Speaker 7: Now he's doing. Now, He's like like, man, wipe your face,
Speaker 7: just back up like he like man. But he started
Speaker 7: breaking it down to me. He started, he started really
Speaker 7: explaining to me these these you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 7: you're not supposed to be acting like you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Put me in, Put me in. He put me in
Speaker 7: a position to realize, like, Okay, you got an older brother.
Speaker 7: Think about a time where you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I was pissed at your brother. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: And yeah, yeah, you didn't go through what this nigga
Speaker 7: went through. But you still didn't been through a time
Speaker 7: where you can we looked at your brother, somebody you
Speaker 7: look up to Liken, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 7: you had to find the relatability of it, relate to it,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, and not act but react.
Speaker 7: So man, we started working it, man, And that's one
Speaker 7: thing about my pops, Like he's tough as ship, but
Speaker 7: when he says it's good, I'm like, oh, I'm good.
Speaker 7: I'm been there, you know. And I remember my mom
Speaker 7: was there and she was reading and she just I'm
Speaker 7: just not feeling him. He's not doing it, you know,
Speaker 7: he's not pushing it. So we finally figured it out
Speaker 7: and we ran, and we ran. It was actually a
Speaker 7: blooperd because Moms was reading the part for us too,
Speaker 7: and she's over here crying. She can't even you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. She can't even finish the line because
Speaker 7: she's like, I'm sorry, it's just you know. So we
Speaker 7: was like, we got I said, we're gonna send them that,
Speaker 7: We're gonna send them the blue Bird, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean. And two days later, man, they hit me
Speaker 7: back like we yeah, you got you the part? You
Speaker 7: got so yeah, man, So that was the start of Hi, Man,
Speaker 7: I got the I got the whole bug for for
Speaker 7: acting at that point, man, you know, and just just
Speaker 7: seeing set life and seeing the difference. Man, I mean
Speaker 7: even with acting to that money come a lot faster.
Speaker 5: Man, it's.
Speaker 1: Once you get it. Yeah, you feel like nine. You
Speaker 1: feel like like you like a wire right right. Here's
Speaker 1: your money. See you tomorrow.
Speaker 7: See tomorrow, and we'll do this all over again. We'll
Speaker 7: just we'll do this.
Speaker 1: All over again. Your side are here grooming. They're waiting
Speaker 1: on you. And there breakfast, breakfast, bring you. We'll bring
Speaker 1: it to you.
Speaker 7: We gotta trailer.
Speaker 1: Uh wardrobe is coming over. They're just gonna do a
Speaker 1: quick fitting for some things you put on the other door.
Speaker 5: Out here fighting over motherfucker fruit basket.
Speaker 1: I'm trying where my water feling is that I'm not
Speaker 1: going to promote.
Speaker 2: You won't see water on the rider. You don't see it.
Speaker 1: I flew three thousand miles this my motherfucking watermelon.
Speaker 7: Stopped playing with me, man, stop ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't like when where the blue cheese at?
Speaker 3: What the blue all red eminem stuff like it's going on,
Speaker 3: no green eminems.
Speaker 4: Listen once once I've seen it. Once an artist moves
Speaker 4: over to the acting sign, it's hard.
Speaker 2: To get him to come back.
Speaker 1: I'll be even foxing about like Fox. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: we need to get this one. He says, No, I
Speaker 1: feel you we should get it. I'm gonna call you back.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna call you back down exactly.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jamie Fox starting a new film over New Zealand,
Speaker 1: just gonna come.
Speaker 2: They said the thing the wire.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry for real.
Speaker 1: Money, real I said, no problem.
Speaker 2: You know what it is, though, it's like.
Speaker 1: You know, and in everything that you're saying, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's like, I don't. I've never
Speaker 1: believed in the play. I've never had a plan baby period. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's not. There's nothing. I can't think of one other
Speaker 1: thing that I was as good at as I was
Speaker 1: doing music.
Speaker 7: But you're here, you're here.
Speaker 3: She got something about she got caught in the mail,
Speaker 3: something about that you didn't exactly, you haven't let the
Speaker 3: package caught the mail before.
Speaker 7: Nice clothes, nice clothes.
Speaker 2: You I want to go with nice clothes off.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I mean, like anything I did, honestly, you know,
Speaker 7: I tried. I tried all kind of shit.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: I wanted to hoop, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 7: wanted to I wanted to run track. I was fast,
Speaker 7: all kind of ship but every time I tried to
Speaker 7: do something, man, it was like God kept leading it
Speaker 7: back there. And I mean like abruptly, like up your
Speaker 7: hamstrings fucked up. You can't do that no more. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. Or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Up you done broke your female ain't no more basketball, bro.
Speaker 1: I would go from I would think I'm getting ready
Speaker 1: to you know, really go somewhere. You know in this
Speaker 1: basketball term, I go up for a full dump bang out. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I come down, step on somebody footing twists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like I'll be quiet ver.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'll be back every times that quick, every time,
Speaker 7: every time.
Speaker 1: Bruh.
Speaker 7: So it was like for me, I always said that like, man,
Speaker 7: I put too many Man, how many hours did I not?
Speaker 7: I'm watching my peers, my homies and ship. They kicking it.
Speaker 7: They chilling, you know what I'm saying. They calling me like, bro,
Speaker 7: we're kicking it this weekend. No, I'm I have two
Speaker 7: recitals to do today. I gotta go do this. I
Speaker 7: got that. I'm in this. I'm building the house with
Speaker 7: my pop. Like they're not letting me leave. So unless
Speaker 7: y'all want to come hang out with me and do
Speaker 7: what I have to do. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: pick up a hammer or some shit. Then that's the
Speaker 7: only way we kicking it. So for me, it was like, bro,
Speaker 7: I did not sacrifice all of these years and all
Speaker 7: of this time to not do it, to not see
Speaker 7: it through you feel me. So even in my family,
Speaker 7: you know, I see I've seen it before, Like moments
Speaker 7: was like, you know, the people that love you, that
Speaker 7: are that are that are supporting you, but they're not
Speaker 7: in the field. They don't see the little winds that
Speaker 7: tell you keep going, indicators like, they don't see that.
Speaker 7: They only see what comes out. So they're like, how
Speaker 7: are you? So these are the same people who were
Speaker 7: putting me in these programs, same people who was making
Speaker 7: me do you know what I'm saying, keeping me out
Speaker 7: the streets doing this, that are now that are at
Speaker 7: that point saying you don't want to get a nine
Speaker 7: to five Like you don't want to not because that's
Speaker 7: not what you that's not the setup you gave me.
Speaker 7: The setup you gave me was this is it. This
Speaker 7: is what I'm going to be doing for the rest
Speaker 7: of my Even a commercial came out one time, but
Speaker 7: I swear. I said that, like, what if everything you've
Speaker 7: been through, everything you've done in your life led you
Speaker 7: up to what you do today. And when I heard that,
Speaker 7: I'm like, that's that has to be me, that has
Speaker 7: to be my life. You feel me? And for me
Speaker 7: it was like, no, it wasn't about no time frame.
Speaker 7: A lot of motherfuckers start to think that the date
Speaker 7: put the date is bigger than the destination. You feel me,
Speaker 7: and it's really about the destination. It don't matter when
Speaker 7: you get there, your me or how you got there.
Speaker 7: You got there, get there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You just got to get there. And for me, that
Speaker 7: that was That's what it was man. And today now
Speaker 7: I'm in a position where you know, I was always
Speaker 7: so scared to claim independency, Like I was like, no,
Speaker 7: you got to be on a label, because that's what again,
Speaker 7: the machine convinces you, like if you talk about independent,
Speaker 7: all people ain't gonna want to fuck with you. Man,
Speaker 7: You ain't you ain't you keep that Universal Republic name
Speaker 7: up there as long as you can. Like no, Man,
Speaker 7: today it's like I'm we independent, my whole team, the brodies, Man,
Speaker 7: we we do everything. You know what I'm saying, film,
Speaker 7: our own videos, concepts. You know what I'm saying, songwriting
Speaker 7: and producing, and there is no more Ever, somebody has
Speaker 7: a record that I recorded that never happened again. That's done.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, because it's it's all. It's
Speaker 7: it's us putting it all into it. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. It's like you'll never hear agent is signed
Speaker 7: to someone.
Speaker 4: What's the name of the label? Now Broody that's in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: We got Sonny Bee. We got Sonny you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying, crazy songwriter, singer. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: We got my boy momo director. We got my man
Speaker 7: hell of Frames, Carl. We call him special K. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, because this man is a He's
Speaker 7: a beast. You know what I'm saying with that camera man.
Speaker 7: You know, we got Sharene being supreme. She here. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. With all our finances and all
Speaker 7: of that, you feel you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: You know you got mister. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: By life, you feel me. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. So you know it's and
Speaker 7: and again it's there's there's more as that that have
Speaker 7: been stacking on, man, but it's just us building that
Speaker 7: network or coming together. Like, Man, it's really a group
Speaker 7: of creatives, men that have all been through their own
Speaker 7: level of shit in the industry, you know, but it
Speaker 7: didn't kill them, It didn't knock them, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. It was like, no, you just got to
Speaker 7: be around the right situation, the right people that believe
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And for the past two years, man,
Speaker 7: we didn't. Probably we took a step back, man and
Speaker 7: just did nothing but recording, writing, recording, producing. Like it's
Speaker 7: a lot of music that has come out since then,
Speaker 7: since twenty twenty. It's a lot of music and we're
Speaker 7: listening to it and it's like, okay, keep doing what
Speaker 7: we're doing. I mean, we were all about cultivating this
Speaker 7: R and BA sound. I mean that it was about
Speaker 7: taking a step away from R and B. Like I
Speaker 7: love Mario you feel Me, I love Eric Bellinger, I
Speaker 7: love I love I love all of these artists that
Speaker 7: are R and B artists, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: And I'm taking my step away from that, Like now
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do something that you guys can't do. You
Speaker 7: guys can't be R and B A. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying, You're not from the Bay. It's just facts,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So everything in the so
Speaker 7: how we talk on these lyrics and you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. We say like watch out for you just
Speaker 7: missing you know what I'm saying, Like you said, this
Speaker 7: is bib City, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 7: like we're bringing these concepts that are from our hometown.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. We we and records talking
Speaker 7: about going Stewie on an R and B level. Though
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, you're taking high feet productions
Speaker 7: and you putting this Bay Area lyricism on it. But
Speaker 7: at the same time, you're using these melody driven you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, You're making it about the melodies
Speaker 7: that is R and B. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: That a tank can still sing it, you feel me.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: because we're the only place in the world brand you notice,
Speaker 7: like in the Bay you you got DJs that was
Speaker 7: blending Keep the Sneak forty two short. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like I'm in the building and I'm feeling myself.
Speaker 7: You feel me, and then all of a sudden, m
Speaker 7: Mario coming on. You still still, You're still going dumb
Speaker 7: You feel me? Like it was the only place in
Speaker 7: the world where they were blending music like that. This
Speaker 7: music is a product of that. This music is a
Speaker 7: product of the hiphi era. And just at that time,
Speaker 7: all we're doing is we're putting uh, we're putting a
Speaker 7: name on it. You r and bab bro. What I'm saying,
Speaker 7: she ruf the trouble, y'all, she ride on. You feel.
Speaker 1: Young.
Speaker 7: Now we're coming and now we're coming in, and let's
Speaker 7: take that and let's build off of that.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Let's build off that you're saying, go dumb dog.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, it was and
Speaker 4: you and I had this conversation some years back. To
Speaker 4: a certain degree, we live on our own island. Yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure, we always have. And it's something that the
Speaker 4: industry as a whole just kind of comes and picks from,
Speaker 4: you know, take pieces.
Speaker 5: Of it, you know, move it and run around with it.
Speaker 5: And it's and you know that's fine because we've allowed that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but standing in front of it, you're going to
Speaker 4: take a different type of chance, especially if you're going
Speaker 4: to do it through a major label. And that was
Speaker 4: the conversation I have with you when you were still
Speaker 4: on Republic. I'm like, listen, I went through this. They
Speaker 4: don't get it. They'll never get it because they're not
Speaker 4: they're not there, and because we're so.
Speaker 5: Like, we're so.
Speaker 4: Hardcore about what's the bay and what ain't the bay
Speaker 4: that we don't fully let people in. So they come,
Speaker 4: they get a piece, and they get the fuck on
Speaker 4: because at some point it's going to be somebody that
Speaker 4: be like that nigga ain't from here.
Speaker 7: Let's get it.
Speaker 4: And instead of fully embracing, you know people that you know,
Speaker 4: like listen, when Drake came and did.
Speaker 5: He showed nothing beloved.
Speaker 4: But there were people there that felt the way for sure,
Speaker 4: instead of fully embracing I remember what Fab had to
Speaker 4: go through by fucking with Drake and people be like.
Speaker 5: Fab, why are you in?
Speaker 2: Fab?
Speaker 5: It's like, bro, like this is help and what.
Speaker 4: We're doing it's just putting a light on on on
Speaker 4: exactly on our region and what we do like we
Speaker 4: should embrace.
Speaker 7: This well, I mean on top of that, you know,
Speaker 7: we're one of those places where it's like man, everybody
Speaker 7: is is trying to be the man themselves individually. It's like, man,
Speaker 7: I gotta you winning man again, winning man. My shit
Speaker 7: harder than his, you know what I'm saying, Rather than
Speaker 7: everybody coming together. You go to Atlanta, how I learned
Speaker 7: it like you go to one studio bro with You're
Speaker 7: going there with Jazzy faith Bright and is going to
Speaker 7: walk in there and and fucking around, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. But out here in the Bay, it was
Speaker 7: always like to each his own, Yeah, to each his own.
Speaker 7: So for us, it was about to me, it was
Speaker 7: like looking at what you the foundation like that you
Speaker 7: laid out and people that before us laid out with
Speaker 7: this R and BA shit. It was more about like
Speaker 7: it's not about am coming back after two years and
Speaker 7: dropping music. We got a hundred us new records that
Speaker 7: we didne worked on just in silence, like we're not
Speaker 7: putting nothing out until we got a hundred records that
Speaker 7: we love. That's like this hundred, this hundred one is
Speaker 7: so much better than this first one. It's crazy and
Speaker 7: the first one. We love it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: But you know, we looked at it like it had
Speaker 7: to be bigger than me, than me coming back out
Speaker 7: like I'm back or I'm trying to do you know. No,
Speaker 7: it's a Bay movement. This is about us bringing the
Speaker 7: Bay together. So we're going and where we're saying, nah,
Speaker 7: like let's stop all that shit. It ain't about stock
Speaker 7: That ain't the Bay or this man, come on, like
Speaker 7: all of us put in on this this movement. When
Speaker 7: is the last time that R and B that we
Speaker 7: had a seat at the R and B table in
Speaker 7: the Bay area? And that's what that was the conversation
Speaker 7: that me and Sonny B had kicking it off, was
Speaker 7: that what is not happening right now? Like what's not
Speaker 7: out right now? Like, wh when is the last time
Speaker 7: that we were able to say R and B had
Speaker 7: a seat, that we had a seat at the R
Speaker 7: and B table in the Bay area, You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. And that was us saying, this next two
Speaker 7: years is the answer. This next two years is saying, oh,
Speaker 7: they doing it right now. Because we've always been innovative.
Speaker 4: We've always been a part of the business, but we
Speaker 4: never even even like I was gonna say, Tony Tony
Speaker 4: Tony Tony Tony InVogue where they you know, they were
Speaker 4: really and then obviously you move into the keaches of
Speaker 4: Kailine's her. But still we don't have as you would say,
Speaker 4: a seat. A seat is something different a see it
Speaker 4: is when a seat is when you're when it's multiple
Speaker 4: artists coming through it like you guys are doing. It's
Speaker 4: exactly a true collaborative process.
Speaker 1: A machine and a machine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like Atlanta has their seat and it's had their seat
Speaker 4: because it's so many of them have come through it.
Speaker 5: Detroit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like you know, we can go down the line and
Speaker 4: talk about different places and even La you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, where you talk about Brandy and Immature and
Speaker 4: shit ray J and you know what I mean, and
Speaker 4: Ti Dollar Sign and it's just so many of them
Speaker 4: and you look up and you know and you say, damn,
Speaker 4: a lot of them came from the same same.
Speaker 5: Thing, you know.
Speaker 4: And with the Bay, we've we've never been able to
Speaker 4: have that. It's always been just you know, individuals every
Speaker 4: couple of years, you know what I mean, Like what
Speaker 4: it was when It was me early on when I
Speaker 4: was just putting out the records, there was no one
Speaker 4: for me to truly collaborate with because everybody was doing rap.
Speaker 4: Everybody was rapping, and everybody was off doing their own thing,
Speaker 4: and there was it was just no way to truly
Speaker 4: bring it together.
Speaker 7: And I think that with all of the with all
Speaker 7: of that tension and term what's going on between artists
Speaker 7: trying to fight to get to the spotlight that's out there,
Speaker 7: you leave room for motherfuckers to come in and take shit.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. It's like we're so distracted
Speaker 7: fighting each other that motherfucker's coming in like, oh well
Speaker 7: I'll take that. I'm gonna take that. And now and
Speaker 7: now all of a sudden, Hella You don't know that
Speaker 7: Hella can started in the bay. You don't know. Now
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, now you're saying that food slaps
Speaker 7: it doesn't you know what I'm saying, Like, stop taking
Speaker 7: that ship, stop saying that.
Speaker 11: We just listen, We just let me say that broad
Speaker 11: he understands the difference between smack and Okay, there you go.
Speaker 5: It was just funny because we was literally having this conversation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's like it's it's like people coming in
Speaker 7: and they able to take that the push and pe
Speaker 7: thing like I don't know what that I don't even
Speaker 7: know what that is like pushing p No, I'm keeping
Speaker 7: it pee, you know what I'm saying, Like the the
Speaker 7: the lingos that we have and how we are, how
Speaker 7: we love, how we fight, how we feel, how we deal,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. Like it's always like you said,
Speaker 7: been on his own island. But for me now, our mission,
Speaker 7: you know, me and the Brody's has always been about
Speaker 7: man at this point. Now bring everybody in on this
Speaker 7: hand for you to rock with us, to rock with us,
Speaker 7: it's got to be on back.
Speaker 2: A lot of information.
Speaker 1: My brother.
Speaker 5: Warming up, he's warming up ship.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of information, a lot of R
Speaker 1: and B information, And it's R n B thing is
Speaker 1: it's it's it's spans generation, spans now, universe. Right now.
Speaker 2: We'd have to figure out am.
Speaker 1: Top F.
Speaker 2: Your top five, my top fire, top F.
Speaker 1: Your top five.
Speaker 5: Else you'll talk.
Speaker 10: You yes, yeah, take your time, your time, top five five?
Speaker 2: Who oh, Adrian Marseilles.
Speaker 7: So we're talking top of R and bay. Okay, well
Speaker 7: we're talking talking.
Speaker 1: Okay, R and Bay represent represent R and B. Lello
Speaker 1: your top five R and B singers the it or Live.
Speaker 7: Okay to five R and B singers. I'm gonna go
Speaker 7: with I'm gonna go with Mike, Mike, m J start writer.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: We got m J, got Prince. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Because you know what I'm saying. You can call it
Speaker 7: what you want to call it. That's that's R and B.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we're going to call it.
Speaker 7: Let's see.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: I gotta say for me again, I gotta say g Bro,
Speaker 7: you want Bro, that's.
Speaker 2: Listen, that's his. You know what else?
Speaker 5: That's his?
Speaker 7: Do your something?
Speaker 2: My pony?
Speaker 1: Can baby?
Speaker 7: Baby?
Speaker 2: Gotta say g.
Speaker 4: He asked the question, didn't answer the questions himself to yes,
Speaker 4: Do you want to ride the pony?
Speaker 5: Can I baby?
Speaker 7: Baby?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we say oh yeah, Oh gotta say. Gotta
Speaker 7: say stokely.
Speaker 2: You gotta gotta say stokely, Bro, You gotta say stoke.
Speaker 7: You gotta say stokely.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: Come on the condition you have the.
Speaker 1: Clock, you better you better know something about some stokely
Speaker 1: If you have.
Speaker 7: We said, we said, we got Stokely, got g we
Speaker 7: got got my Prince, and I think baby face, Bro,
Speaker 7: say baby face because I mean, bro, this this is
Speaker 7: the birthed a lot of this ship out here. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Like all these songs, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, We're not here, We're not here with exactly.
Speaker 7: That's definitely my top five.
Speaker 2: It's the feeling of the texture.
Speaker 7: Yeah, King, Yeah, Yeah, I like you.
Speaker 2: I like your attitude.
Speaker 1: Okay, your top five R and B songs.
Speaker 7: Okay, so anxious.
Speaker 5: Listen you know you talking to g wis background.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started YouTube.
Speaker 1: I do all that.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say where I want to be, what will be?
Speaker 7: That's that's what a master. A master that album from
Speaker 7: top to bottom, the master. That's that top to bottom
Speaker 7: where I want to be. Oh, diamonds and diamonds and.
Speaker 2: Pearls for sure, bro, Yeah.
Speaker 7: You feel me? Come on, diamonds and pros. And if
Speaker 7: I say diamonds and pros, I gotta say butterflies. Got
Speaker 7: to say butterflies, m J. You feel me? Pretty brown
Speaker 7: eyes bro?
Speaker 4: Because Stokely Yeah really then yeah, listen, I love how
Speaker 4: the top five they connect, they connect they connect with
Speaker 4: the artist, and it's just you know.
Speaker 1: What it is, bro, it's music that really raised us.
Speaker 1: Bro for real, man, for they really raise Like when
Speaker 1: we have Stokely here, I'm looking at him like, and
Speaker 1: I've messed Stokely many times and always give him flowers.
Speaker 1: But every time I see him, I'm like, Bro, you're stokely.
Speaker 7: Still still.
Speaker 1: For real?
Speaker 7: I mean, thank I got I got you. Go on
Speaker 7: YouTube right now. I'm gonna tell you how to find it.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I tell you how to
Speaker 7: find You know what I'm saying because it was it was,
Speaker 7: you know, back in the day. But we got some baby,
Speaker 7: it's been a while. Yeah, sleep around like we're singing all.
Speaker 2: That because I don't sleep around because.
Speaker 7: I don't see.
Speaker 5: I love to stop playing with flying motherfucker on that.
Speaker 2: Value to be.
Speaker 7: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Come on now, mo, man, everybody can't get this.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Bru raised on this, raised on this, bro, raised.
Speaker 1: On it all. Right, here we go your R and
Speaker 1: b voul try all right. So like artists, Okay, there's
Speaker 1: the vocal of the artists, the styling of the artists,
Speaker 1: the performance style of the artists and the heart of
Speaker 1: the artists.
Speaker 2: Out of all the artists that you.
Speaker 1: Love, who were you going to take the vocal from
Speaker 1: to make your perfect R and b artists?
Speaker 2: Why not put it out there If you haven't heard,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the MIT Factory.
Speaker 7: You feel me straight up and down?
Speaker 2: You all right? Who are you getting the performance style from?
Speaker 7: I gotta split it up, so I gotta go MJ
Speaker 7: and Bobby Brown. Bro you gotta go MJ and Bobby Brown.
Speaker 12: Michael, yeah, now, And Michael was already savage though on
Speaker 12: some hean you Mike on the Hennessy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, Chaser, you're gonna have Mike humping the stay exactly.
Speaker 7: Come on, and you ain't never seen Mike. He gonna
Speaker 7: have a different Michael. It ain't gonna be a hip.
Speaker 2: No, that's gonna be full boull.
Speaker 10: Body gonnav leve take before you do it.
Speaker 7: Come on, come on, man, come on, walk, come on.
Speaker 1: You exactly exactly Michael and Bobby that's mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The styling of the artists, what they're putting on?
Speaker 2: Who got that?
Speaker 7: Mm hmm. Styling though, I say, we're talking about styling.
Speaker 7: I say usher, clean, yeah, clean, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: like to.
Speaker 1: It, right to it.
Speaker 7: But but but a chameleon like Usher can go fashionable,
Speaker 7: he can, he can go Nigga with it.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: He didn't. He's invented himself so many, so many times
Speaker 7: and so many cases throughout his his album.
Speaker 2: He hasn't.
Speaker 1: He hasn't limited himself to any type of expectations exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, he's really broadened his space to where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's no matter where you're.
Speaker 7: Seeing him exactly. And if if not Usher, then I
Speaker 7: had to say Prince, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 7: Prince wasn't afraid to just kind of go all out. Man.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Horse, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Like I was gonna say, I can't, I can't do it.
Speaker 7: You feel me? That ain't my bast but is thick
Speaker 7: thick you know small? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, give me.
Speaker 7: Up, let me go, let me go, let me do,
Speaker 7: let me let me out, let me.
Speaker 1: Out and no, let it get the bucking man, sh
Speaker 1: let it.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 7: Is he gonna stay on?
Speaker 1: I hope he.
Speaker 2: I want to believe he would get off at the point.
Speaker 1: That's what I believe about.
Speaker 7: My feel like Princeville just hopping to be on his feet.
Speaker 1: I feel like you just get off. Enough is enough?
Speaker 7: Yeah, somebody get me down. Somebody come getting me down
Speaker 7: on this motherfucker now.
Speaker 2: Get off his nag.
Speaker 5: That's hell funny.
Speaker 2: The heart of the artists.
Speaker 5: You face, you face man.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, ain't what how how how much?
Speaker 7: How much more heart do you need? Like he he yeah,
Speaker 7: he pumped it into music.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, r and Bay, you're doing
Speaker 2: the brother.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that. Okay, We're not We're not done.
Speaker 5: You ain't getting out of here without it.
Speaker 1: Fine, Fine, Fine, I.
Speaker 2: Ain't saying no niggs. Ain't saying no names. I ain't
Speaker 2: saying no names, saying no niggas.
Speaker 1: Where you was what you did? I ain't saying no.
Speaker 7: Wow, yeah wow.
Speaker 5: We got a very very very important segment of this show.
Speaker 5: And that's what you know. We close this thing out with,
Speaker 5: and it's.
Speaker 4: Called I ain't saying on that where Adrian Marcel tell
Speaker 4: us a story it's funny or fucked up, A funny
Speaker 4: and fucked up. The only rule is you can't say
Speaker 4: the name, got it. You can say your name because
Speaker 4: you're him and you you got it.
Speaker 5: It's your story.
Speaker 7: I can't so I can't say the name of who
Speaker 7: it is. But can I say the names of the
Speaker 7: people of other people?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, yeah, you can't. Nobody.
Speaker 7: So it's just me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, scot no no, yes, ma'am's and no
Speaker 4: man here, got it? Okay, no names, I got you,
Speaker 4: So we don't okay. Right now, Right now, my young
Speaker 4: player partner keeping his r and big thing alive, Adrian
Speaker 4: Marcel is gonna tell y'all story without saying no no names.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 7: So I'm in Atlanta. Yeah, I like when I find
Speaker 7: that strict. So I'm in Atlanta. I'm in Atlanta one one,
Speaker 7: one fine day, man, you know, and uh we're going
Speaker 7: to this person's house, you know who's staying in Atlanta
Speaker 7: at this time. They have a fat, fat crib, you know,
Speaker 7: and uh so I get them. I'm supposed to work
Speaker 7: with them for about a week.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: It's actually good that I don't get to say this name.
Speaker 7: Uh So, get to work with them for about a week.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: I go up in the studio. Man, I'm waiting there
Speaker 7: and they're telling me. They're like, look, you know, they'll
Speaker 7: be up here in a minute, but right now they're
Speaker 7: playing basketball, and they're gonna be playing basketball for the
Speaker 7: next four hours. Let them wait, let them So, so,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm in I'm in here, right and it's
Speaker 7: me a couple of management stuff like that, and some
Speaker 7: reps of theirs, and uh, they're playing me some records
Speaker 7: that were supposedly put together for me, you know, for
Speaker 7: these sessions' time. Yeah, exactly, So they're playing these records
Speaker 7: for me, you know, and this and the guy he
Speaker 7: keeps doing this one dance he keeps you know.
Speaker 8: And the lights, the lights he keeps name through the
Speaker 8: whole through the whole time he's in front of me.
Speaker 8: He's like you feel that, No, he's hitting it like
Speaker 8: he's in it too, like Knees has been.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. He's in it, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, you know, And and the lights are dim.
Speaker 7: So for me, it's sucking me up because it's like,
Speaker 7: hold on, it's a lot of guys in here, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. It's like a sausage fast going
Speaker 7: on right now. And you're doing the Nayna in front
Speaker 7: of me, so let me hop up and turn these
Speaker 7: lights on first. You know what I'm saying, Let's let's
Speaker 7: let's get let's get some light in here. You know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Let's see who's Let's see.
Speaker 5: Whee, who's where?
Speaker 7: Yes, let's see where the hell all of y'all are
Speaker 7: at number one, so you know they're planning. They're playing
Speaker 7: the records for me, and I'm listening to it. I'm like,
Speaker 7: I can't sing this. I can't. I can't sing this,
Speaker 7: like you know, number one, This this song is about
Speaker 7: You're talking about being naked on one and just it's
Speaker 7: not really like a metaphor, it's just being naked. I'm like,
Speaker 7: I don't want to talk about that. And then there's
Speaker 7: another record they're talking about some certain things. I'm like,
Speaker 7: I can't say that because if I go back to
Speaker 7: my hood, they're gonna eat me up for that. They're
Speaker 7: gonna tear me up. I can't do it. So I
Speaker 7: can see it's pissing them off. Like the nay name
Speaker 7: wasn't working, so you know, it can't sell me with
Speaker 7: the nay names. So usually I guess that works. That's
Speaker 7: like top tier. Yeah, And so I'm like, well, look
Speaker 7: how about we take a break, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: And let's go down and go see the basketball game.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, let's go find out.
Speaker 7: I like basketball. Let's get out of here, Let's get out,
Speaker 7: Let's get up. Let's get out of here though, right,
Speaker 7: So we go down to the court, man, and you know,
Speaker 7: this is cussing everybody out.
Speaker 8: Pass me the fucking ball, bitch, Like, like, who's this
Speaker 8: stitch ass nigga shooting?
Speaker 7: As soon as you get this as soon as I
Speaker 7: get down there, he's cussing everyone out. Pass me the
Speaker 7: fucking ball. He got to shoot. If anybody shoot, who's
Speaker 7: the light skinned nigga?
Speaker 2: Just shot the ball?
Speaker 7: Get him off the court. So, I mean, he cussing
Speaker 7: everybody else. You look up, you're trying to play. Hell no,
Speaker 7: I don't want to play this game with you, like,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I don't play like that,
Speaker 7: you know. So I'm sitting there and I'm watching this
Speaker 7: whole thing, and in the midst of all of this,
Speaker 7: you know, I get a moment to have a conversation
Speaker 7: with this person. Now I opened for this person, uh,
Speaker 7: maybe a month ago, a month earlier. But they don't
Speaker 7: they don't realize that I didn't forget what happened during
Speaker 7: that show. They came probably about an hour late, so
Speaker 7: they didn't see the show, you know. And then when
Speaker 7: they were there, they didn't want to do a meet
Speaker 7: and greet, so I did. And when everybody still came
Speaker 7: for the meet and greet, they came and bombarded me
Speaker 7: out the section to to you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: to come to the meeting. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Like the security guards bumping me out the way, like
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm trying to get
Speaker 7: a picture with the nigga. I'm like, no, I'm trying
Speaker 7: to finish the pictures that but I'm supposed to be doing,
Speaker 7: you know, but I'm gonna give it to you, bruh.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. It's all you. So fast
Speaker 7: forward to this time. He's sitting here talking, you know,
Speaker 7: and the guy told me before, you know, when you
Speaker 7: meet him, you just make sure you tell him how
Speaker 7: much you love his music. You know, make sure you
Speaker 7: tell him like how great they are, and you know,
Speaker 7: really sell it, really sell it. So you know, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 7: love your music for years, you know, and a big
Speaker 7: fan opened up. Yeah yeah, yeah, I seen you seen
Speaker 7: you opened up for me. I've seen the show.
Speaker 1: It was good. It's good.
Speaker 7: You're a lie motherfucker you you know that. But I'm
Speaker 7: sitting there like, yeah, fish out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So he tells me, yeah, yea, we're gonna get upstairs.
Speaker 7: We gonna do some work. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I'll be up there in a minute.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: Boom, So go ahead back up there and wait, you know,
Speaker 7: we get back up there. Needless to say, that was Monday.
Speaker 7: I didn't see him again throughout that rest of that
Speaker 7: whole time. So I just recorded a bunch of music
Speaker 7: that had nothing to do with him or anybody else
Speaker 7: in his studio though in his studio, I used his
Speaker 7: engineers and his studio to go ahead and record.
Speaker 5: He never showed up. He never came from the basketball court.
Speaker 7: Came from the basketball court never. And there were people there.
Speaker 7: There were kids. There was like, like, uh like basketball
Speaker 7: players there, and they were like, I mean, he was
Speaker 7: almost looking like they were trying to try out for
Speaker 7: the team.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 7: I'm saying, like, people, already what you got? All right,
Speaker 7: we'll see what you got. We're gonna work on that. Jay,
Speaker 7: Like the fuck is going on here? All right, we're done.
Speaker 7: Let me get up out of here, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So it was definitely a time meeting someone
Speaker 7: that I looked up to and getting to know them
Speaker 7: for real, for real and uh yeah, lesson learned.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 7: After that, I stopped idolizing and just like, hey, niggas
Speaker 7: is niggas.
Speaker 5: Man, what's the same to make your heroes?
Speaker 7: You not to meet your heroes?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So and then some other ship happened since then, so yeah,
Speaker 7: it makes sense.
Speaker 2: You know what, We're not gonna try to put that.
Speaker 5: Ship.
Speaker 7: Don't even fit, don't even fit me.
Speaker 2: I've tried.
Speaker 7: I felt like the right time, the right time.
Speaker 2: Everybody else was doing sometime. My arms so long, Yeah,
Speaker 2: than just.
Speaker 5: Do ship to make his kids uncomfortable?
Speaker 4: Stop stop, there you go, you're so corny.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 7: You that's like you know, you know about it? Ask
Speaker 7: about me?
Speaker 2: Google how you get in it?
Speaker 1: Bro? You you you're you're building Yeah, and and and
Speaker 1: and that's the right thing. And it's beautiful that you know,
Speaker 1: like we said, these valleys, you know we we It's
Speaker 1: it's it's easy to you know, to desire to press
Speaker 1: on and to have the have the fire burning and
Speaker 1: all these things when you out the mountaintop right. But
Speaker 1: it's but but it's when the light is not so lit.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. It's when you say, man,
Speaker 1: we got drop what were about to do? It's at
Speaker 1: those moments that you figure out what you are, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and what's really in you?
Speaker 2: Straight up?
Speaker 1: You really gotta.
Speaker 2: Love this ship.
Speaker 1: To do what you're doing, to do what you all
Speaker 1: are trying to do well, to do what you all
Speaker 1: are doing and going to do more of, you gotta
Speaker 1: love this ship. And that's what That's the gem that
Speaker 1: I hope everybody takes from from this, is that you
Speaker 1: love it so much that you're willing to carve out
Speaker 1: the piece that is yours and build that motherfucker from
Speaker 1: the ground up. If you want to come see me,
Speaker 1: we'll be right over here.
Speaker 5: Right over here, period.
Speaker 2: Come on see me. Man.
Speaker 1: We ain't bother nobody, just a little ruta.
Speaker 7: Where it ain't.
Speaker 2: I tell you, at this episode.
Speaker 7: Where they can figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we so you brother, your family, you always like
Speaker 1: you know, you always got a home, you always got brothers,
Speaker 1: you always got support over here. You know that.
Speaker 7: Appreciate that real ship.
Speaker 1: But you want to reiterate that, make sure they know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you got family, you got you have structure,
Speaker 1: you got foundation, you got fucker's riding for you and
Speaker 1: around with you.
Speaker 7: Come on, you know what I'm saying, And I mean
Speaker 7: a lot though coming from grapes man, y'all, y'all some
Speaker 7: great whites out here. Man, for real, For what y'all?
Speaker 7: Did you know what I'm saying? We following none of that.
Speaker 7: I'm like I said, going back to the YouTube days. Man,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, going back on seeing don't
Speaker 7: you do it? Don't you.
Speaker 1: Leave it alone?
Speaker 2: Leave it alone?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 7: Just know what you know what I'm saying. But yeah, bro,
Speaker 7: Like I said, man, just you know even even how
Speaker 7: you how you how you've done your thing. Man, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, like from top to bottom, being
Speaker 7: able to watch that. You know what I'm saying, being
Speaker 7: from the same soil, bro, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: that's that's that's kind of like being the motto for
Speaker 7: a lot of this. You know what I mean is
Speaker 7: the ones before us. You know what I'm saying, y'all
Speaker 7: laid foundations out man, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 7: like I said, we were coming in now just giving it,
Speaker 7: giving it our version. You know what I mean of it.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that because we there is no there is
Speaker 7: no this without without that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got our appreciation. Like you said, you made
Speaker 5: that phone call.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it made this work exactly absolutely in the instant too.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. That's when you know, because
Speaker 7: like you said, man, going through that, going through the
Speaker 7: valleys where you know you had them times where nobody
Speaker 7: answering the phone, Bro, nobody's picking up, nobody's calling you.
Speaker 7: You know, they asking you for your ID at the door.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying again, you feel me like
Speaker 7: two a m what nigga? What was your ID? You
Speaker 7: feel me?
Speaker 1: Security?
Speaker 2: That worked for me?
Speaker 7: You feel me?
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, we don't have to go find him, man,
Speaker 5: so he can apologize.
Speaker 1: Once we started together. To every other episode, I bring
Speaker 1: it there there you go. Yeah, I'm gonna say, we
Speaker 1: gotta find bro.
Speaker 5: Just go ahead back.
Speaker 7: You know what, that's my nigga to I was just
Speaker 7: doing my job.
Speaker 5: The head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made me wait for Jamie to get to
Speaker 1: the club.
Speaker 7: Oh oh my god. But see it beat them things
Speaker 7: and then moments where you see you feel me. Let
Speaker 7: me keep working, Let me keep doing what I'm doing
Speaker 7: that he ain't feeling that. He ain't feeling that, Nigga.
Speaker 1: When I say it was dry dry, I live in
Speaker 1: a rancho google manga.
Speaker 5: Listen, that's the ship is about.
Speaker 1: I tell everybody it's all this is par for the course, nigga, repossessions, foreclosure,
Speaker 1: straight you know what I'm saying. All this is par
Speaker 1: for the course.
Speaker 2: If you love this ship, the sacrifice is immense straight up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Things suffer on the account of greatness.
Speaker 1: They have to. It's an greatness is an imbalance, say
Speaker 1: that as he says, obsession.
Speaker 2: It's an imbalance.
Speaker 1: It's not natural, which is why most people can't understand it,
Speaker 1: which is why a lot of people hate it.
Speaker 7: Hate lebron Lebronry, just.
Speaker 2: Hate Floyd.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you hate great mm hmm
Speaker 1: when your mission on your on your quest to be great,
Speaker 1: enjoy the imbalance.
Speaker 7: Straight up, straight up.
Speaker 5: Talk to that man.
Speaker 7: You gotta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm stealing that that that fire.
Speaker 1: Thank you again. Brother.
Speaker 2: We can't thank you enough. Man. You know we love y'all.
Speaker 2: We we we we're glad we hear you.
Speaker 1: Celebrate this.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.
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