1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They call 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: producer Alexis code name Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: are you. You are here, and that makes this stuff 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. Our Strange news segment 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: at the top of the week. So hoping everybody had 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: an excellent weekend and survived to face yet another Monday, 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: we have some strange stories for you. These run the gamut. 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: So we thought maybe the best way to ease in 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: to today's exploration was to start with something a new 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: development about something close to all of our hearts. Yeah, 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: that's right. Uh So it turns out that Fox Television 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: was developing in a spinoff of the beloved X Files, 18 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: which is something that I think is near and dear 19 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: to many of you folks out there in in podcast 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: lands hearts. It was such a formative show um in 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: terms of kind of conspiratorial um plots and like it 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: really took things like the Twilight Zone and things that 23 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: were already kind of in that supernatural realm and kind 24 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: of combined it with like a procedural, like detective type 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: story and just you know, really there wasn't anything else 26 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: quite like it. Uh, you know, absolutely iconic. Even the 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: movies are pretty good. Um, never really lost its luster 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: in my Actually, I don't know, I kind of fell 29 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: off near the end. I really loved the Monster of 30 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: the Week type episodes best. But um, here's the the 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: twist everyone, This new X Files series. This is a spinoff. 32 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be called the X Files, tentatively titled 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: The X Files Albuquerque. Uh. And it comes from comedy writers. 34 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone's watched the Netflix comedy series 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: Paradise PD uh and a show on Comedy Central called Brickleberry, 36 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: which I think is about like a bear, a foul 37 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: mouth cartoon bear of some kind. Um. But they are 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: helming this new X Files Albuquerque series and it's animated. 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: What yeh man, what's your what when I say this 40 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: animated X Files was your immediate reaction? Well, the first 41 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: thing I'm thinking about is the first X Files spinoff, 42 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: the one, the true X Files spinoff, the one that surpassed, 43 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the X Files altogether. Here we go 44 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: The Lone Gunman. Are you serious? Oh god, I loved 45 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: that show. You're being sarcastic. No, I'm not being sarcastic. 46 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Show I thought people hated it. What are you talking about? 47 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Us Millennium was also a spin off. Technically they exist 48 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: in the same universe the you know. To be honest, 49 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: the animation approach does not surprise me. We've seen more 50 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: things going into animation. I would be interested to know 51 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: whether this was planned to be animation pre pandemic or 52 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: whether it changed like so many other properties. But from 53 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: what I understand, Uh, it's got its d n A 54 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: at least in the production side, squarely rooted in the 55 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: world of animation, right, Like is Paradise p D animated? Yeah, 56 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: both of these shows are animated, So that's very true. 57 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's it's it seems like very very 58 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: early development. Bento Box is the animation studio that's going 59 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: to be handling the actual you know, out production. Um, 60 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: they don't have any scripts yet or any commitment from 61 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: the actual creators in terms of like where the story 62 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: is going to go. But I do wonder if it 63 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: was like pitched that way, or if it was something 64 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: like they were gonna do an X File spinoff and 65 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: then COVID hit and they're like, well, we better pivot 66 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: to something that's more manageable that we can at least 67 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: plan for. It's something that the Internet's kind of already 68 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: a buzz about a little bit. There was an article 69 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: on uh oh, some kind of pop culture nerd type 70 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: site I can remember the name now, but comparing it 71 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: just conceptually, and you know, you know how the Internet 72 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: loves to pre judge things before it even exists. But 73 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: like to the Real Ghostbusters. I don't know if you 74 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: guys remember the Ghostbusters cartoon from the eighties. I guess right. 75 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: I remember the action figures and all that, and it 76 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: was called the Real Ghostbusters because there was another cartoon 77 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: series called Ghostbusters that was real bad and I was 78 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: always confused by it because I was like, wait, what 79 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: is this? Why does this exist? And it had nothing 80 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: to do with the Ivan Rightman property or the film 81 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: and any of it. So they had to call it 82 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: the Real Ghostbusters. Yeah, that that's happened before. When we 83 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: have these closely competing properties, like not just with Ghostbusters 84 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: and real Ghostbusters, which I appreciate your point. I also 85 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: had the Toys at one time. It reminds me a 86 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: bit of the Adam's Family versus the Munsters, you know 87 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. Someone identified a concept and then before 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: it got locked down, someone else said, we'll do something 89 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: different enough with with animation though with X Files, uh, 90 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, I I wonder whether the voices of Fox 91 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: and Scully will return or whether this is like if 92 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: you want to have a reboot of something and you 93 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: can't get the original actors, then maybe you make a 94 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: case that it needs to be different enough visually that 95 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: the audience will it'll find a new audience that isn't 96 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: married to the current protagonist, you know what I mean. 97 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: It's probably for kids War two, right, you know, there's 98 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: so many of these mature cartoons now. I wonder if 99 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: they'll make it PG thirteen, You know, because the idea 100 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: behind this is like it's like the X Files B team. 101 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: It's like all the stories or I'm sorry, the cases 102 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: that are too stupid or like bizarre, but not in 103 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: like a cool like you know, mystery way, more in 104 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: like a wacky slapsticky kind of way. It sounds like 105 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: for Molder and Scully to deal with. And I think 106 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna make appearances, but um, it does seem like 107 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be sort of a spoof almost, so 108 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: it's it's hard for me to even commit to calling 109 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: it a spinoff. It almost seems like nostalgia bait kind 110 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: of reworking, like a reimagining almost. I don't know it. 111 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings about it. You guys, years down 112 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: the road, we're gonna be like, do you remember when 113 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: X Files used to be a regular TV show? Ah, 114 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: this new one is just so great. I kind of 115 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: don't even remember whom Older and Scully are. Maybe. Yeah, 116 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: it's a good point, Matt, about how quickly things become normal, 117 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: and really the story of history is always up to 118 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: the winners who write the history right and the future historians. 119 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: So it may be that maybe the fandom divides and 120 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: there are some people who only love the original run 121 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: of X Files for insert, maybe even only a piece 122 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: of the original run, like only seasons one through four, 123 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: and they'll be kind of like the people who only 124 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: like the first Star Trek iteration. And then there will 125 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: be the people who only for some reason like that 126 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: original six episode reboot. Was it six episodes? I think 127 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: it was of what next generation? You know, the original 128 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: X Files reboot they came out. Sorry sorry sorry sorry? Yes, yes, 129 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: of course the next generation is many many more than 130 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: six episodes, yes, any many more. Uh So we don't 131 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: we don't know who's gonna win, but it makes me think, Um, 132 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's time for us to 133 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: give a shout out to some of our favorite X 134 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Files episodes. Maybe absolutely before we do that, just really quickly. 135 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted this is something that will like make 136 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: you super popular at parties. Folks out there. The when 137 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about the Ghostbusters cartoon versus the real Ghostbusters cartoon, Uh, 138 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: it actually the Ghostbusters cartoon from Filmmation, you know, from 139 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: doing he Man and she Ra cartoons and all that stuff. Uh. 140 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: They owned the name before the movie, before the Ivan 141 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Rightman movie. The Ivan Rightman Movie had to buy the 142 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: rights to use that from Filmmation, and then Filmmation capitalized 143 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: on the success of the Ghostbusters movie, which came out 144 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three, by putting out a sequel to 145 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: its live action The Ghostbusters movie from nineteen seventy five. 146 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: So Ghostbusters the cartoon was kind of like a thing 147 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: they already owned that they had sold the rights to 148 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: use the name to Columbia Pictures and then made a 149 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: cartoon version of their live action Ghostbusters movie from where 150 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: they have a guerrilla like that. It's like these like 151 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: very slapstick Larry Storch and Forest Tucker and then they 152 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: have a guy in a monkey suit wearing a beanie 153 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: with like a little propeller on him. So that's all 154 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: I got. But that's why I didn't even realize that 155 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: until very recently. No, I've never heard that story. It's true, 156 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: a little lost in the in some of the business stuff, 157 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: but I think I understand. I think they licensed the 158 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: name like they I don't know exactly because they obviously 159 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: were still able to go back and make their version. 160 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Um it's I don't know. I don't do a little 161 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: more digging on that, but yeah, I would love to 162 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: hear what y'all's favorite X Files episodes are. I certainly 163 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: already have mine in my mind. Yeah, well, okay, my 164 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: favorite episode of the X Files, Um, it's the one 165 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: where Buyers, one of one of the characters Buyers. He 166 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: has to fake his own death, and he's doing this 167 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: because he's trying to uncover this conspiracy about an airline hijacking. 168 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty crazy. So um, the this air liner 169 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: ends up getting hijacked via it's it's like automatic control system, um, 170 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: the autopilot system, and it's crazy. In the end, several 171 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: of the guys from the team end up getting on 172 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: the plane and they're trying to stop it. The crazy 173 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: thing about it is that this plane that was being 174 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: auto remote controlled was on a collision course with the 175 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: World Trade Center. And this episode came out in two 176 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: thousand one, in March of two thousand one, and it 177 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: was an episode of The Lone Gunman. I was waiting 178 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: for it. Are you kidding me? I can't tell if 179 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: you're serious or not. You really like The Lone Gunman 180 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: better than The X Files, Matt, Come clean, Look I'm 181 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: being I'm not being fully honest. The X Files. The 182 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: X Files was my great love as as a young one. 183 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: But the Lone gun Men, let's say I've I've become 184 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,119 Speaker 1: to appreciate it much more in my later years, especially 185 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: as us the three Caucasian men speaking to you now 186 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: either via audio. Yeah, well yes, the three of us 187 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: talking I think maybe represent the Loan Gunman in some 188 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: weird way, just a different versions. So I think I 189 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: I have grown to like it more. Oh yeah, thanks 190 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: to you Aaron Cooper for the awesome poster, which I 191 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: still have a copy of here in this strange room, 192 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm turning into a layer. Uh yet, I think I'm 193 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: on the same page with you there, Matt. I personally don't. 194 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: In principle, I have a really difficult time choosing a 195 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: single favorite. I'm never a fan of those lists where 196 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: it's some arbitrary like these are the best two to 197 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: seventeen these things, and they're clearly my opinion is the 198 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: author I I I also to your point, knowl I 199 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: enjoy the Monster of the Week episodes, the supernatural stuff, 200 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: of course when they're when they're dealing with otherworldly entities. 201 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't if if you are listening to stuff they 202 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: don't want you to know and you have somehow not 203 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: seeing uh the X Files. I wish I could erase 204 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: my memory and watch it with you, because what a 205 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: wild ride, especially when you don't have to wait a 206 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: week between episodes. Binge it you know, can cancel all 207 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: your appointments, make your weekend a week long and just 208 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: watch X Files and tell me what you think about 209 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: that really Southern gothic, not even supernatural, that Southern gothic. 210 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: Uh incest story that was That was the one that 211 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: they pulled right where it's like almost like a Texas 212 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: chainsaw massacre type vibe, with like a house with like 213 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: a real creepy family and like someone that lives under 214 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: a bed and there's like born with no legs or 215 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: something I don't remember. It's really twisted. Is by far 216 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: the most disturbing episode of the entire series. It's called Home, 217 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I believe is what it's called. Right. Uh, yeah, I 218 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: think it might be home. And I think that characters 219 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: started with legs. Uh once upon a time, That's right, 220 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Yeah, that's your favorite. No no, 221 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: I said, that's that's an exceptional one. Now you can 222 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: watch it via the Internet without having to worry about 223 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: top down censorship. Uh. But since I can't pick a favorite, 224 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: and I don't have a favorite because I like so 225 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: many of them, uh little, I would pass it to 226 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: you because it sounds like you have one you wanted 227 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: to talk about. They're actually two that really stand out 228 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: my memory and I had to google. One of them 229 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: was called but It's called d p O and it 230 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: starts Giovanni Ribisi the first time I think I've ever 231 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: seen him in anything, and he plays this kind of 232 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: outcasty weirdo who likes playing video games and has magical 233 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: lightning powers. Um, and I I really need to rewatch it. 234 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: I'd be interested to see if it holds up. I 235 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: have watched a decent amount of them and in the 236 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: last handful of years, and I do think by and 237 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: large they do hold up. I mean, it definitely has 238 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: got that square aspect ratio, and it's got some hallmarks 239 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: of kind of nineties, which, by by virtue of the 240 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: closeness to the eighties, feels kind of eighties at times. Uh, 241 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: it's weird. Um, it's that, you know, with the hair, 242 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: kind of big hair sometimes and all of that, and 243 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: some of the dialogues a little corny. But man, it 244 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: really hits um and that that's one of my favorites 245 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: I think is he's sort of this this classic outcast 246 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: character who you almost want to root for, but then he, 247 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: like you know, it goes way to Ham and becomes 248 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: kind of like stalkery and see, you now realize how 249 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: psychotic he really is. But he just wants to be loved, 250 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: you guys. He just wants to be loved. Um. And 251 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: then I also really enjoyed that there was one with 252 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: a creepy a creepy doll that that like murders people 253 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: with its like creepy doll powers. And I don't remember 254 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: the name of that one. Let's see if I can 255 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: find it real quick. I was gonna type in X 256 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: Files creepy doll. And that one is called chinga vacation 257 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: and Skully meets a girl who makes Bole injured themselves. 258 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: Written by Stephen King and Chris Carter. It's very Stephen 259 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: kingy now that I think about it. Yeah, Ching guy. Wow, 260 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: you know I just thought of another episode, you guys. Um. 261 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: This one actually was written by Vince Gilligan, who you 262 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: may remember. Vince Gilligan. You know that other show Breaking Bad. 263 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: He did that one, And uh, this one is really 264 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: really cool. It's called Usual Suspects. I can't even go through. 265 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: It features the Loan Government, but it is an episode 266 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: of the Edge. Okay, but that's really great. I like 267 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the characters. They're great. I like which who I think 268 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm the short, the short, stubby guy. Matt, you're the 269 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: long haired weirdo, and Ben, you're the other guy. What 270 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: does the other guy look like? I'm thinking of the 271 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: poster that that Aaron Cooper made. Yeah, that's the agent 272 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: Buyers that Matt was referring to a couple of different 273 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: times earlier. In this episode, he's the good looking one, 274 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: so you get to be the good looking one. Also, 275 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: just so you know, in that episode it features Detective 276 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: John Munch, which you may remember from the Munch first Yeah, 277 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: which I think Chuck discussed with us right when he 278 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: was on he was on the show too. Uh yeah, yeah, 279 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I like that. You know, this isn't this isn't uh 280 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: necessarily strange news because the to me, maybe this is cynical. 281 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: The money makes it inevitable that there will be a 282 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: reboot or some exten extension of the X Files universe, 283 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: because otherwise what are they gonna do just sell DVDs? 284 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: You know where is he streaming? By the way, where 285 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: do you stream the X Files? Is this on Hulu? 286 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: I think it's on Netflix anymore? So hard to keep track. 287 00:16:54,080 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: Let me type where to stream the X Files Ladies 288 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: and Gentlemen on Idea Flicks. Nope, it's Hulu on movie 289 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: exclusively on Quimby. There you go, Um real real quick. 290 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: We'll wrap this up and move on to the next article. 291 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: But for it or again at X Files Animated series. 292 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh the old car stuff question Yep, Yeah, I'm I'm 293 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: for it. I'm for creative endeavors. Uh. I am for 294 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: the exploration of the mind and the world around us 295 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: through fiction. It's done great for the species so far, 296 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: which is a very abstract way to say. Yes, even 297 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: if I don't watch it, I think it's good that 298 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: it exists in the world. Okay, Matthew, Uh, spoilers ahead. 299 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: As long as buyers, fro Hickey any other one show 300 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: up as ghosts in this new line, and we're okay. 301 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe on the table. This sounds like 302 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some mad cap, uh you know, supernatural 303 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: high jinks. So I'm for it, man, I'm not going 304 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: to poopoo it before it even exists. It's interesting at 305 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: the very least. Um, and let's just see what happens. 306 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: I guess the thing is like, it's one of those 307 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: things that has It has such a special place in 308 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: so many of our hearts that you feel protective of 309 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: it and you're like, oh no, don't ruin it by 310 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: making a stupid cartoon out of it. But who were 311 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: we to say, you know, maybe the kids will love it, 312 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: and then I'll introduce a whole new generation to the 313 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: X Files. It'll get it'll get more people thinking maybe 314 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: the way you do, the way we do, maybe there's 315 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: something to all this stuff on the fringes, right, That's 316 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: what this show is all about. I would say one 317 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: interesting part about that when we talked about intergenerational fiction 318 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: is that people tend to have nostalgia for romanticize the 319 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: things they saw that they love, right, and they say, oh, 320 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: the old thing was better, Oh the first thing was better. 321 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: But often psychologically what's happening if you were being in 322 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: that person is that you are pining for how you 323 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: felt at the time that you originally watched the thing. 324 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: So you're not necessarily in love with the writing where 325 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: the special effects, whatever they may have been, you are 326 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: psychologically speaking, going to be assoc You're going to be 327 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: thinking of the time in your life that you've already 328 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: remembered multiple times. So so we have to be really 329 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: careful when we when we find ourselves being the person saying, ah, 330 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: the old stuff was better the original stuff. No, we're 331 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: just we liked ourselves better that. Yeah. Whatever. Sometimes it's 332 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: not Sometimes it's not even good at all if you 333 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: actually revisit it. Um, it wasn't Fringed technically an X 334 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: File spinoff as well, I don't believe so. I think 335 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: it was. I think it was. It might be arresting 336 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: munch verse, but yeah, maybe it's in the month off. Well, 337 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a lot of references, you know 338 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: J J Abrams that I'm just looking it up right now, 339 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: and it just says Fringe every X Files reference explained. 340 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: So it's inspired by the X Files and his reference 341 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: to the series in several episodes, implying that they've decided 342 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: maybe retroactively to share this. What what what makes the spinoff? 343 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: Does it have to come from the same team to 344 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: be like an official spinoff? I don't know. It's a 345 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: good question. So that's uh, what do you guys think 346 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: is Fringe an X File spinoff? Let us know. That's 347 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: all I got. All right, Well, we'll be right back 348 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 1: and we've returned a brief disclaimer before we dive into 349 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: this story. It contains descriptions of abuse towards children and 350 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: therefore may not be suitable for all listening audiences. With 351 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: all the stuff going on in the news today, catastrophic weather, uh, 352 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: domestic and foreign unrest, we can't be blamed for having 353 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: a hard time keeping track of every single piece of 354 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: news out there in the world. So you may, like 355 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: some people have missed the recent report that nearly forty 356 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: missing children were rescued during a child trafficking bust here 357 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: in our very own state of Georgia. These children were 358 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: found as a result of something called Operation Not Forgotten. 359 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: It was multi county. It spanned across more than twenty 360 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: counties throughout the Metro Atlanta area, and twenty six endangered 361 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: children were recovered. Another thirteen missing children were found. The 362 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: authorities believe that these children were potential victims for a 363 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: sex trafficking ring, or that some of them had already 364 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: been abused. They seem to come from high risk childhood's, 365 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: you know, little stability in the family structure, maybe abuse 366 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: by the parents or substans of use by the parents. 367 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: And as this story developed, the governor talked about it, 368 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, last Thursday evening, as this story developed, the 369 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: arrest were still coming in and as we came to 370 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: air today, I was still keeping track of some of 371 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: the arrest because an operation of this size requires the 372 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: activity of multiple co conspirators, and any child trafficking ring 373 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: is a conspiracy. This is the kind of stuff that people, um, 374 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: people who are reposting q and on memes should be 375 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: paying attention to. If you want to make a difference 376 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: and the ongoing injustice and abuse of vulnerable children, then 377 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: I would say look at things like look at these 378 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: trafficking rings that get busted all the time, look at Epstein, 379 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: look at the Catholic Church, right and and donate to 380 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: organizations fighting Then as a matter of fact, Uh, this Saturday, 381 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: just as we were prepping to record this for more 382 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: people were arrested in Florida in relation to this trafficking ring. 383 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: So we don't know if the nine people arrested for 384 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: this trafficking ring were the totality of management. There may 385 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: be more people out there and and more terrifyingly, there 386 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: may be more children out there as part of this ring. 387 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: Because these people were arrested in Florida. This is multi county. 388 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Atlanta has been a hub of human trafficking for a 389 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: long time due to our you know, we're at the 390 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: intersection of interstates. We have one of the world's busiest airports, 391 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: or at least we did pre pandemic. So I feel 392 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: like this is a series of beginning dominoes falling. I 393 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't know you guys have you guys have heard 394 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: of this story, right, We talked a little bit about 395 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: it off air. I think, yeah, it's just really really disturbing. Um. 396 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: I've been looking at a lot of stuff from w 397 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: s B TV. You can that's channel two here in 398 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: where we live in Atlanta. And if you click through 399 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: you know the stories, when one's posted, you can kind 400 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: of go you can go through and read a lot 401 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: more personal stuff about this. And I was just reading 402 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: one actually earlier today about uh, um, there was a 403 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: girl that was found. She was I think this is 404 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: the seventeen year old. Seventeen year old that was found 405 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: and it appears or they believe that she's been trafficked 406 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: for sexual purposes since she was twelve. UM. And when 407 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: they when the police arrived at this home where she 408 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: was kept in a garage in Rockdale County, whereas in Rockdale, Georgia. Um, 409 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: she didn't believe that anyone could possibly be there to 410 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: save her. It was her. She thought that somebody was 411 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: just getting there's a warrant being served in the house 412 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: or something, and that was it. And you know, my 413 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: under standing is that she was afraid to say anything, right, 414 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean, she was just gonna mind her place. She 415 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: was going to stay there in the garage and allowed 416 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: to happen because she was fearful for her life. I'm 417 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: assuming that's me placing myself in her she was at, 418 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: which I shouldn't do. But I'm that's what my understanding is. Um. 419 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: The amazing thing is that been this this whole task force, 420 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: everyone involved in this that you're talking about, it was 421 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: specifically to to rescue children. That was the whole point 422 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: of it. And um, she just couldn't believe that someone 423 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: would do that. But the the officers were able to 424 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: to let her know and then they they rescued her 425 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: from that, and they did that for so many other kids. UM. 426 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the people that were 427 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: rounded up in this and like name them? Sure? Something, Sure, 428 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about the adults. I do want to to 429 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: give a bigger picture of this. Uh. The seventeen year 430 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: old was the oldest of the children. The youngest was 431 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: three years old. When she give you an idea just 432 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: how widespread this operation was across the mcgraphics. Every forty 433 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: seconds a child goes missing in this country. That adds 434 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: up to what the FBI estimates to be seven sixty 435 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: five thousand children missing per year. So it's not surprising 436 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: that if they have credible leads, they would form specific 437 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: task force to find to find these victims. The people 438 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: that we're talking about will name their names. We need 439 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: to be very careful to say that, this being the US, 440 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: they are not guilty until they are proven guilty in 441 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: a court. Another thing, the people who have been arrested, 442 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: many of them already had related convictions, by which we 443 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: mean people like Mora Deo Amos Bendel, who was arrested 444 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: in Florida. He was he already had a warrant out 445 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: for sexual assault in Conyers, Georgia. Yeah, Uh, I mean 446 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: in in decav County where I live. There was a 447 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: person named tray On Moore who was wanted for sex 448 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: trafficking and probation violation. He already had warrants out for 449 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: him on that m And then you have James Garcia 450 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: was arrested at a motel and Clearwater, Florida, UM with 451 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: warrants on him out of Whitfield County, Georgia for aggravated 452 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: child molestation, aggravated sodomy, and incest with a minor. Yeah, 453 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: and that was that was one of the people you 454 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: mentioned Ben that we're more recently arrested in Florida. Yeah. Yeah, 455 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: So three of these folks were arrested in Clearwater, Florida. 456 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: James Garcia was at a motel with Face Smith and 457 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: Sally Garcia. Face Smith had a warrant for probation violation 458 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: and Sally Garcia had had been convicted of interference with 459 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: child custody. Yeah. And there's more UM down in Columbus, Georgia. 460 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: There's a person named Zachary Bailey. He uh, you know, 461 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: previously had issues with human trafficking, enticing of a miner 462 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: for indecent purposes, enticement of a miner for solicitation, just awful, 463 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: egregious stuff. And then we have a Stance and CAUSI 464 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: arrested in Jasper Georgia, a registered sex offender and also 465 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: arrested for probation violation. And to round out the current arrestees, 466 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: the last two are Kirkwaters rested Newton County felon and 467 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: possession of a firearm. Travanti Sharif also arrested Newton County 468 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: interference with custody and obstruction. So these people, as far 469 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: as we can tell, have had a history with the law, 470 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: you know. And the troubling thing about this is this 471 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: bust is not the biggest of its size, even in Georgia. 472 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: Two years ago, a sex trafficking steam operation in Metro 473 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: Atlanta rescued almost a hundred and sixty children, and of 474 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: course along with those came the news conferences, the vows 475 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: to clean up the streets, to never let this sort 476 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: of thing happen again. And here we are two years 477 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: later and it has happened again. I mean, I just 478 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: it's this, This level of opportunism and predatory behavior is 479 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: just beyond anything I could possibly wrap my head around, 480 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, can I can't think of anything 481 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: more egregious than praying on children and and using them 482 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: as a commodity in this way. Part of the reason 483 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: this tends to happen in Atlanta is because Atlanta is 484 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: also in addition to being a travel hub, Atlanta is 485 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: also a convention hub. Right, So there are a lot 486 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: of people who are effectively living a transient existence. I 487 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: don't mean just you know, people riding the rails or something. 488 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean people who are from somewhere else. They're here 489 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: for a week and then they're gone the next week. 490 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: We know that the U S has a tremendous problem 491 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: with trafficking in general. Just to contextualize this, Matt, you 492 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned one of those charges was enticement of a minor. Right. 493 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: The word for that is grooming, befriending a vulnerable child, 494 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: making them feel like they will be safe if they 495 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: do what you say. Yeah, this is unclean. I agree this. Uh. 496 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: I bring this story up because there are two very 497 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: important things we need to know. First, this story does 498 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: appear to have some sort of positive conclusion, which is invaluable. 499 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: And I believe that the investigators in this task force 500 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: meant it when they said, you know, they're never gonna 501 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: stop looking for a kid. They're never gonna stop looking 502 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: for these missing children. And I hope it's true. But 503 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: the second reason I bring it up is because we 504 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: have to ask ourselves how long until the next one 505 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: or how many are occurring now in the US and 506 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: in Georgia maybe specifically that aren't getting the due diligence 507 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: of investigators, where they aren't getting the headlines of the 508 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: press and media outfits. Uh, this this stuff is happening 509 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: every day. It may not always be over a hundred kids, 510 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: it may not always be like dozens and dozens of children. 511 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: But I don't think it makes it any better if 512 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: it's happening to one kid, you know, where two kids 513 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: or three? Yeah, I completely agree. It makes me wonder 514 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: what would happen if this was one of the primary 515 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: things that our tax dollars were used for. For law 516 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: enforcement officers something like this, very specific task forces that 517 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: focus on a major problem, and they focus on it 518 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: so deeply that they are able to you know, arrest 519 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: whole you know, groups of people who were doing some 520 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: kind of major crime. UM. Because because I think what 521 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: this does is illustrates the importance of law enforcement right 522 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: in a time when you know, there's a lot of 523 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: much needed scrutiny being placed on you know, individual officers 524 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: and departments. UM. This is something that I think, I 525 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: don't think anybody can argue with, is a majorly positive 526 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: thing that law enforcement officials in entire groups of officers 527 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: can do. Now, you're right, but but it's all about 528 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 1: that training and the specialized training, and then in the 529 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: task force nature of it, to like fit the training 530 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: and the personnel with a certain end goal as opposed 531 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: to what we're seeing. I think with perhaps the training 532 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: for regular you know, officers that are going to domestic 533 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: disputes are doing traffic stops, they're not trained in a 534 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: way that fits with the reality of that job at times. 535 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: Uh oftentimes in my in my opinion, and I think 536 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: in many people's opinions, I would say that we have 537 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: to we have to take pains still a street. The 538 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: difference here, the folks who are in charge of Operation 539 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: Not Forgotten are not rank and file police officers. They're 540 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: members of the U. S. Marshals Service Missing Child Unit, 541 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: So they're like their training is going to be incredibly 542 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: different to begin with, my understanding, says them. And then 543 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: like six or more other agencies, including local FBI, I 544 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: mean all all of these various law enforcement groups that 545 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 1: are where GBI and local police too. To your point, 546 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: and my point is that it's not the local police 547 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: running this, you know what, I mean, the marshals. Oh, 548 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: that's great. Overall point is that if we did highly train, 549 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, even local officers in a very specific thing, 550 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: that they would be amazingly good at. I mean what 551 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: I imagine that we could accomplish some some wonderful things 552 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: in putting people who probably should be in jail, such 553 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: as the ones that we named in this episode earlier, 554 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: in some kind of jail prison excuse me, need to 555 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: be more specific. Jail is where you are kept when 556 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: you're awaiting trial. Prison is where you go after you've 557 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: been given a sentence. Thank you, whoever you are. I'm 558 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: going to find your name. Uh. And a goolag is 559 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: where you go if the people in power don't care 560 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: for what you say. Yes, shout out to Dinah, who 561 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: wrote us a great email telling us the difference between 562 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: jails and prisons, which I think I'm the one who 563 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: is guilty of using them interchangeably. Yes, shout out to you, 564 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: and shout out to everyone who was talking about this 565 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: case social media, various other places. One other interesting aspect 566 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: here is that we had a lot of people who 567 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: were saying, why isn't the mainstream news reporting this? Why 568 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: aren't they giving it more coverage? And the fact of 569 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: the matter is that the mainstream outlets were covering this. 570 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: It's just so easy to lose these stories in the 571 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: deluge of headlines that we encounter every single day. Now, 572 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: and of course, this story being somewhat rare in that 573 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: there is a positive outcome. And ending, we're going to 574 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: pause for a word from our sponsor, and then we'll 575 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: be back with one more piece of strange news and 576 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: we're back. Okay, we're going to take a bit of 577 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: a light turn here, but it's one that we think 578 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: you're going to find fascinating. Now, you may have heard 579 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: this whole situation with the pandemic the coronavirus COVID nineteen. 580 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: It's had a bit of an effect on the cruise industry, 581 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: and by that I mean cruise ships, the you know, 582 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: the giant cities that roll around on the water with 583 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: casinos on them. Mostly that's that's really what you're don't 584 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: forget about the shuffle board, man shuffle board and boost 585 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: so much booze. Well, unfortunately, this fun activity for those 586 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: who have enough money to enjoy it. Um, it's had 587 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: to there's had to be a pause on it, right. 588 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, these massive ships, it's not easy 589 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: to just dock one somewhere on the coast, you know 590 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: where let's say twenty other ships would be able to 591 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: be docked, a hundred other ships to be able to 592 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: be docked. You can't just put them there, right. One 593 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: of the one of the main things that happens with 594 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: a cruise ship that is not in service is that 595 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: it just it's anchored or moored somewhere out in the 596 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: ocean that's deep enough to make sure it's going to 597 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: be safe even when there's like a large storm or 598 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: something on the sea. Well, if you travel to the 599 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: English Channel, which uh, if you're looking at a map, 600 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: the UK would be above you, the English Channel is 601 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: here and below you, ben what would it be, oh 602 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: geography quiz Okay, Well, the English Channel is the part 603 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: that looks like you could just maybe swim across it. 604 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: Some people have below the UK, You've got you've got 605 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: a cavalcade of adventure there. You've got France, he had Spain, Portugal. Uh, 606 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: you've got the entire continent of Africa. Okay, okay, okay, 607 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: you know a lot about where things are, Ben, I 608 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: think everybody knows those I think we all know just 609 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I know I know about them as individual units. 610 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you where they lay out on a 611 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: map with that level of precision. Ben, don't sell yourself 612 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: short at my friend. I know things about Ben, and 613 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: one of them is that he's got a map up 614 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: up in here in his head. So so kind, Oh dude, 615 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: come on, So if you are in this one specific town, 616 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: let me pull it up and make sure I know 617 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: where it is. It's called the Mudford or m U 618 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: d e f o r d uh Ferry, and it 619 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 1: is in this place called Mudford. It's in christ Church, Dorset, UK. 620 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: And if you are there at let's say the docks 621 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: were not it's not the docks whatever you call the 622 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: port there. Um you look out, you'll see a bit 623 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: of Spain maybe if you're if you're lucky. Otherwise you're 624 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 1: just gonna see lots and lots of water, and a 625 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: way out in the distance, you're going to see whole 626 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: bunch of these giant cities that are called cruise ships. 627 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: Now they're just out there floating and they're empty except 628 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,959 Speaker 1: for a skeleton crew maybe of people who are making 629 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: sure that you mean, like actual skeletons, dude, on the 630 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: ghost ships. Yes, they should really capital at the at 631 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: least have them wear skeleton like outfits. You know, Okay, 632 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, pleasetine know there's gonna be a small crew 633 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: of people on each one of those ships, just to 634 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: make sure everything's okay with the ship, or at least 635 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: at most times. I don't know the inner workings of 636 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: the big cruise industry or whatever you wanna call it 637 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: industrial cruise complex, but the important thing here is that 638 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: there's almost nobody on these giant ships. Right. So an 639 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: enterprising fellow named Paul Durham who operates this thing called 640 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: the Mudford Ferry or Mudford Ferry, I'm gonna butcher and 641 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: I apologize. Paul, whoever mood you can do, that's all 642 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: you can do for well, he decided he's gonna start 643 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: running a two and a half hour long ghost cruise 644 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: ship ferry trip. I love the idea of this. So 645 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: you hop on a ferry with with Paul and his 646 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: crew or whoever is running at that day. You take 647 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: the boat out and you just kind of right up 648 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: alongside these empty cruise ships and just look up at 649 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: them and just wonder what it might have been. Like 650 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 1: you fantasize, Oh, that water slide looks so much fun. 651 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: Oh man, I bet the the she crab soup on 652 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: this place would have been just wonderful tonight. Um. But 653 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: it is this weird, I guess, an eerie feeling that 654 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: you get just knowing that they're out there empty. Um. 655 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: And he's been charging people. You know, he's a pretty 656 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: good amount of money UK by the way, and he's 657 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: able to actually have a functioning business based off of 658 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: the current what what do we call it purgatory in 659 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: which the cruise industry exists. Oh yeah, I mean, let's 660 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: not forget like the cruise industry was one of the 661 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: first big like pr blunders of this whole pandemic where 662 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: people were like trapped and weren't able to like get 663 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: off the ships and return to their lives. That was 664 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: one of the first big ship moments where we were like, 665 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: this is real bad because they weren't allowed to leave 666 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: and that was really shocking story. And I wonder how 667 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: the cruise industry is ever going to even recover from 668 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: the optics of all that I wish that I wish them. 669 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: Do you think so, yes, yeah, don't don't waste a 670 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: ton of tears. I'm not the cruise operators, the crew staff, 671 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: the employees had its terrible time. The pay is terrible. Uh. 672 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: They have very little in the way of workers rights, 673 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, and a lot of them 674 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: were stranded just like you're saying. You know, imagine, so 675 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: you're a passenger, right and you're stranded like the the 676 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: American couple off the coast of Japan, or like many 677 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: many other couples, you are denied entry your vessel is 678 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: denied entry to a country. Is the pandemic hits Uh, 679 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: it's way worse when you're at a job that you 680 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 1: can't leave. Uh. They're also refusing to pay you because 681 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: they're not changing the agreement based on the pay schedule. 682 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: It's very unethical stuff. I I think the cruise industry 683 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: will recover. And I don't mean to sound callous when 684 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: I say, you know, don't cry too much for those 685 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: cruise operators, but do be very concerned about the staff 686 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: of those places, who are often treated like surfs. That's 687 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: not the fun surf s E r F. I think 688 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: that they should absolutely have more rights. Uh, and I 689 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: think that they are probably not first in line to 690 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: go on this ghost cruise ferry. I wonder what they 691 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 1: think about it. I'm sure they they're not happy about 692 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: it as as an industry. And I wonder if there's 693 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: even I mean, I guess it's all public waters. You 694 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: can't like say no, you can't drive by our more 695 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: cruise chip, you know, with your tour. How can you 696 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: prevent somebody from making money off that? Really quick? Just 697 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: want to point out to we We may have talked 698 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: about this in the past, but most cruise lines don't 699 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: pay any federal income tax because of the structure of 700 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: their corporate entities. They are often have corporate hq s 701 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: that are outside of the US, and that's also a 702 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: big reason they didn't get any bailout money. M hmm. 703 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: I wonder if you could find a way to make 704 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: your corporate HQ of a cruise line just somewhere in 705 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: the middle of international waters, you know, just like more 706 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,479 Speaker 1: one ship at all times, and then that's your HQ. 707 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: It's just a po box. Maybe just put a box 708 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: on the buoy, do it and do it in Delaware 709 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: like everybody else does, you know. But just to get 710 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: back to this this, you know, the industry is massive. 711 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: As you said, Ben, it's not it's certainly not perfect 712 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: the way it operates. It is a lot of people 713 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: maybe you uh, just have their vacations, their holidays on 714 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: a cruise ship because it's either a tradition or something 715 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: that you just do, or it's a conni A lot 716 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: of people do that, and what Paul Germ here has 717 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: done is just capitalized on that so much. And also 718 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: just maybe the humans desire to observe something out of normalcy, 719 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: which I think is just a fascination a lot of 720 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: us have. And well, it made me think, you guys, 721 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question. Do you think 722 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: one day now that all of these offices in cities 723 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: across the world are closed, When it's hard to imagine, 724 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: even after pandemic conditions are finished, when businesses will be 725 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: paying all of this money in rent or leases to 726 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: have all of their office workers in these giant buildings. 727 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that happening. And what I am imagining 728 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: is like ghost cities essentially, where there's hardly any residents 729 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: at least office residents in massive buildings and cities, and 730 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: even a lot of people attempting to escape cities. Who 731 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: are you know, leasing apartments or living in a large 732 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: building in a situation that is just very crowded. What 733 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: do you think, Yeah, it's gonna happen. I mean, they're 734 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: all first off, they're already ghost cities, especially in the 735 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: in the interior of China, because they may or may 736 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: not be real estate scams or state attempts to prop 737 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: up the economies year over year growth, which is one 738 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: of the only things keeping a lot of the domestic 739 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: population in line. But I think more directly to your 740 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: question about commercial property values, it's gonna be very difficult 741 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: for people because if you are a company and you 742 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: start realizing that you're paying, you know, thousands and thousands 743 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: of dollars per square foot per month to have a 744 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: thing that people no longer need to use, and it 745 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: makes sense to have people work from home and cut 746 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: that cost. There's always gonna be a wave, typically generational 747 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: or catastrophe responsive. Uh, there's always gonna be a wave 748 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: of people who want to return turn to a simpler 749 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: time as they envision it, and leave the city. But 750 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: cities are a human necessity. The majority of the world 751 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: lives in them. Unless there is a much more deadly pandemic, 752 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: the majority of the world will continue to do so. 753 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: It's more economic opportunity. Um. You it's easier to find 754 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: the silly hoops you have to jump through for social advancement, 755 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: like being members of whatever club and whatever city. Uh. 756 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: And then there are also seats of progress human evolution 757 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: brief though it is occurs in cities, our social evolution, 758 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: our technological innovations. So I think cities are I think 759 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: cities are must have. What I would wonder is how 760 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: long it's gonna take how long it's going to take 761 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: for one of those cruise companies to go bankrupt and 762 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: for a a group of enterprising people, maybe like the 763 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: same people who created ceiling or whatever that that micro 764 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: nation is called. I wonder how long it's going to 765 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: take somebody to go and try to get squatters rights 766 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: on the cruise ship. I wanted the same thing about 767 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: like the phenomenon that is dead malls. Uh. You know, 768 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: they're these like massive structures that for whatever reason, not 769 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: COVID related or pandemic related, usually more just the changing 770 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: of economy and like things being less focused on like 771 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: huge brick and mortar buildings. Um, they or they get 772 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: replaced by a new or shining r mall and the 773 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: old ones just end up. There's there's a webcitcle dead 774 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: malls dot Com that, like, I mean, some of these 775 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: literally look like urban abandoned jungles, you know, with like 776 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: these empty COI ponds and stuff, and uh, it's very 777 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: very creepy and eerie. I could definitely see that phenomenon spreading, 778 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: you know, to office buildings and then maybe we have 779 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: a tour of of abandoned office parks and you know 780 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I mean, it's it's it's very eerie. 781 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: But I think very much within the realm of reality. Well, 782 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: there's more to to dive into there when we think 783 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: about property prices, rent prices, um, rent controls and all 784 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. When you're talking about big cities, 785 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: when you're talking about even you know, maybe maybe suburban 786 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 1: areas that have giant malls in them, because that that 787 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: is one of the common areas where you'll find large 788 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,959 Speaker 1: mall facilities and structures. Um. But just what happens when 789 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: prices become so low in an area, maybe in in 790 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 1: a city, or when they become so high an area 791 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: in the city and what you know, how everything changes 792 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: where people migrate to, even within a state or you know, 793 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: a county or even a city suburban area. UM, I 794 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: don't know. It's all fascinating stuff that I've been thinking 795 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: about a lot. In this case, I want to get 796 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: back to just the concept that you're saying haunt, like 797 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: ghost tours of a mall or ghost tours of cruise 798 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: ship from the Royal Caribbean or wherever. UM. I know 799 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: we're far away from Halloween right now, but I always 800 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: think about ghost tours, haunted tours like that. Um. At 801 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: some point I want to gather together and have like 802 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: a list of really good ghost tours in cities. Yeah, 803 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: legitimate ones self, yes, not one where somebody's taking you 804 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: on a tour and showing you all the things, giving 805 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: you the bullet points. But like, here's a map essentially 806 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 1: of these homes and structures that are believed to be haunted. 807 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: Like I want to talk about that so we can 808 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 1: maybe one day go on a a little ghost tour. 809 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: You guys love it, I would love it. I have 810 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: a list of that for Atlanta actually, sign me up. 811 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: There's a oh man, there are a few spots I 812 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: I actually learned about through the graffiti cruise used to 813 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: run with they because those were like the spots you 814 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 1: could hit. And you don't want to tell people about 815 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: the spots because you don't want to blow up the spots. 816 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: And everybody was convinced that everybody else was a cop, 817 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: probably because of all the drugs they did. But they 818 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 1: left us with a good list of supposedly haunted places. 819 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: I gotta dig that up. And if you're listening, like 820 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: right to us and tell us I don't care where 821 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: you live, tell us what you know. I want to 822 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: I want to hear about the most haunted places near you. 823 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: And then I also want to point out that there 824 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,479 Speaker 1: are a lot of small countries in Europe that are 825 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: also under the United Kingdom. Who didn't talk about like Andra, Uh, 826 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: just just just to get in front of that email whatever, 827 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: somebody sends that to us. Uh, we're specifically talking about 828 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: that area of christ Church. That's where Mudford faerious Mudford. Yes, 829 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: And if you're a Mudford, right to us, if you've 830 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: taken the ferry uh through this ghost toward tell us 831 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: about it. Also, if you have ever worked in the 832 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: strange universe of the cruise ship industry, let us know 833 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to know about the 834 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 1: cruise industry. We already, the three of us already sussed 835 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 1: out a little bit of it. But who knows, Perhaps 836 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: it would be a perhaps it would be a full 837 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: episode in the future. That might might mean we never 838 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: have a cruise ship as a sponsor. I don't know, 839 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: what do you think it's worth the risk? I know 840 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: a lot of or at least a handful of folks. 841 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 1: Um My mother's a singing teacher and a pretty lucrative 842 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: early gig for singers is to you know, maybe they 843 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: don't make it on Broadway, but they get a job 844 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 1: saying on a cruise ship or like being in like 845 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: a variety show on a cruise ship, and that in 846 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: and of itself is a grueling situation because they're doing like, 847 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, four or five shows a day or whatever, 848 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: and then subject to all the weirdnesses that you're talking 849 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: about then about just being in that world. I might 850 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: reach out to a few of those and see what 851 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 1: the inside scoopa is about all that. Yeah, what I'm 852 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: asking is, do you think it would be worth it 853 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: to do that episode. That's the question I was asking, 854 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: Do you guys think it would be worth to do 855 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: that episode if it meant that we might mix our 856 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: chances of ever having a cruise company as a sponsor. 857 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: I think it's worth it. I don't know, guys. I'm 858 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 1: imagining a scenario where the four of the five of us, 859 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: including Codename Doc, Holiday and Mission Control, go on a 860 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: cruise ship to let's say Scotland, Ireland, other parts of 861 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: the UK, the super haunted like old the places in 862 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 1: in that area of the world, where we're just cruising 863 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: around doing this show every day, maybe twice a day, 864 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: but then the rest of the time we're ghost hunting 865 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: conspiracy cruise Remember that we got so close to doing that. 866 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: I would do it in a heartbeat. That's that's a 867 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: true story, and we were very happy to do that. 868 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, but let us know, like like you said, Nol, 869 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: like you said, Matt, we do know this is a 870 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: this is a strange world and it's different from the 871 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: world upon which a lot of land lovers walk. So 872 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: how can you tell us about this? How can you 873 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: tell us your opinion about the X Files animated spinoff, 874 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: how can you tell us more about the human trafficking 875 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: cases that are, unfortunately, unlike our story in Georgia, not 876 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: reaching the news. 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Yeah, 886 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: you can find me on Instagram at how Now Noel Brown, 887 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: I am Matt Frederick underscore my heart. Good luck finding it, 888 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,280 Speaker 1: even better luck finding anything post Matt. Matt literally shadow 889 00:53:55,320 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: band himself, so you know it's an interesting way to go. 890 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: You can find me at Ben Bolan on Instagram exploring 891 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: some new strange foods along with updates on all the 892 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: weird esoteric stuff I'm reading. You can also find me 893 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Ben bull in hs W. If you 894 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: find one of the other Ben bullets maybe listening to 895 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: this show. Uh, they're about five of us that I've 896 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: been in contact with online. They're all great. Check them 897 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: out too. Yeah, but there was that one, wasn't there. Uh, 898 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 1: there's one, but he's a distant relative of mine and 899 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: he knows what he did. The the other one, there's 900 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: a criminologist in the UK. There's a tattoo artist and Idaho, 901 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: both top notch dudes. Uh so, I you know, I 902 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: think it's awesome when you run into people, when you 903 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: run into people who share a name with you, partially 904 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: you're fully you shouldn't feel threatened, get some swag about 905 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: yourself and realize that you're very close to for me, 906 00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: your own kind of Avengers or Justice League. Run with it, right. 907 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: Shout out to the other four hundred Matt Fredericks out 908 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: there that I find every time I try and look 909 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: at myself anything anywhere, at any time. Are there really 910 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: that Yeah? A buddy of my named Kyle exclusively only 911 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: has people on Facebook follow him by the name of Kyle. 912 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: I was very impressed by this feat. It was a feat, 913 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: an utterly ridiculous feat of social media like counterintuitiveness, and 914 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: I didn't believe it at first, but I went and 915 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: looked at his friends list, and almost all of them 916 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: are named Kyle, and I think he has about a thousand, 917 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: and the other ones are of like the parents exactly. 918 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: So if you hate social media and you're more of 919 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: a like directly shouting into the void kind of person, 920 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: oh boy, oh boy, do we have a deal for you? 921 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: That's not ideal. It's a phone number, Yeah, it's a deal. 922 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: It's a steel you can shout directly into your telephone 923 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: or head gear, you know, with one of those Madonna 924 00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 1: mics that people wear. Um at one three S, td 925 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: W I t K. That's right. Leave us a message. 926 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 1: You might end up on one of our listener mail episodes. 927 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 1: Let us know if you would like to be included, 928 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: if you would like to have us use your name 929 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 1: or not, whatever your comfortability level is, that's fine with us. 930 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 1: Just let us know. 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