WEBVTT - Partner Track 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.759 Hi, everyone, welcome back to return to the Shadows. Today 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.800 we are doing something very special and very close to 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.200 my heart. As some of you may know, I have 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.920 a brand new show on Netflix called Partner Track. I'm 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.280 so excited for you to watch it. So to celebrate 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.480 this week, we've decided to invite some of the main 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.080 cast onto the podcast to talk about the show. Today, 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.440 we will be talking to Arden Show, Rob Heaps, and 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.239 Desmond Chum, three of my dear friends from the show 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.000 who I was so happy to reunite with today. Partner 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.120 Track is available on Netflix right now, so you can 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.040 go watch it as soon as you're finished listening to this. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:48.080 And with that being said, let's dive on in. Hello. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.480 My name is Arden Chow and I play ingrid Ian 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.080 on Partner Track. Hey guys, I'm Desmond Charm and I 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.560 play z Hi. My name's Robert and I play Nick 0:00:55.640 --> 0:01:12.000 Laren Yo. Hi. Thank you guys so much for being 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.759 here and I miss you. I miss you too. Where 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.160 are you? I am currently in Santa Fe, New Mexico, 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:26.240 in the seventies, so that's my life. We should really 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.200 be thanking you for joining us. In that case, I 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.480 think I had the longest community, traveling, traveling all that 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.200 way through time, a lot of effort, real effort, just 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:37.520 to get a laptop the works. Yeah, WiFi hold of 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.039 a very particular stage. Yes, it's true, it's true. That's 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.720 been looking fun. By the way, I'm seeing Lawrence's shots 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.640 from that, it looks dark. Thanks so much, Thank you 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.280 guys so much for being here and for doing this. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.520 This is great. Yeah, thanks you all for being here today, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.680 and congratulations on such a fantastic show. You know, I 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.080 really really am so proud of I mean, obviously Dominar 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.000 Nerd two of my oldest friends, but the show is fantastic, 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.240 and I'm just I'm so proud of you guys, and 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.520 I'm so happy that we get to celebrate it. You're 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.280 on the podcast today. Thank you. Likewise, Yeah, thank you. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.120 Who's got the airplane? Did you guys hear that? What 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.560 a plane? Oh? Maybe it was on my and then 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.040 all I heard was this massive airplane. Well it was 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:22.640 actually just me breathing very low into the mind. Sorry, Das, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.000 Are you on set as well? No, No, I'm just 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.440 at home. I get to hang out for a few days. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.799 It's so nice. That's nice. Yeah, me too. I'm just unemployed, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:36.320 so please watch the show. I'm with you. I'm very 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.160 excited to be here. But I do have the Queen's 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.600 I do have the Queen's funeral on we do to 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.519 my left. Yea happening right now? It's actually insane. It's wild. Yeah, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.079 it's really wild. Like I don't know. You're not in England, right, 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.840 you're in your Yeah, it's England's like desolate, like London 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.760 is is manic decor is in London right now. London 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.040 is like insane. But my town, my little town where 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.519 I'm at, is nobody on the streets, like nobody. It 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.200 was no cause there's no motion. The The entire sort 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.280 of gone dead except for London. Yeah. Is it because 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.720 everyone's traveled to the location, either traveled to London or 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:16.480 people are inside watching it? Right? Well, first of all, 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.359 let's let's let's deviate this is this is half my 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.200 job of the podcast is getting us back on topic that. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.840 Let's let's talk about partner track. When you first got 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.320 your auditions. Obviously, Dom and I have been a part 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.840 of a TV series based on books. Did you all 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.520 read the book? Did you choose not to read the book? 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.080 I know different actors have different kind of ways of 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.280 going about and accessing characters when it's based on source material. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.440 How did all of you, you know, get to the 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.520 project and did you read the book and tell us 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.600 a little bit about that process for you? Well, for me, 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.120 and after reading the pilot, I had to read the 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.080 book because I wanted to see what was going to happen, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.200 especially if it was something I was going to jump 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.920 into and commit. I was like, all right, let's let's 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.960 see where this goes. Because the pilot so much happens, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.119 but you know, obviously for my character it's quite triggering, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.240 and you hope that the story will be redemptive and 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.160 that there will be so much more. And of course 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.760 the book was amazing, and there really was, and they 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.640 love that. Our show has you know, elements of the book, 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:26.599 but it's also developed characters and deeper ways and made 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.240 a you know, dramatized version that fits for television. You 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.760 can appreciate the book, you can appreciate the show. And 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:35.880 I don't think they're really in competition with each other, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.040 if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I think on that note, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.760 I think Helen's actually done a really lovely job of 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.160 sort of I think she's done it really gracefully, associating 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.520 herself with this production in a way that doesn't feel 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.520 kind of territorial. But she's just played. It's just she's 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.200 really proud of that, the way that this story has 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.480 kind of evolved into this medium. And I think I've 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.479 really enjoyed that while watching her and just how happy 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.760 she is and how proud she is to have this story, 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.400 this amazing thing that she wrote. I don't know out 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.320 in the wide world, it's really really cool. I think 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.520 it does help that there's like a consistency of tone, right, Yeah, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.720 it's an offer to see that preserved. I think is 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.920 one of the biggest things, because that's I think the hardest. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.960 That's like one of the most intangible things to translate 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.760 into film or TV. And I think, you know, Georgia 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.240 and stuff have done pretty well totally. And writers never 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.560 like films of their work. It's like it's just he's like, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.719 even Stephen King hates the shining. It's like, what do 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.080 you you know? What are you're talking about? This is 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.120 the most amazing entertainement. So it's really lovely to see 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:37.280 someone that's actually happy. Page fifty three. Yeah, but answer 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.120 to your question. Really it's funny because I was like, oh, 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.599 Nick Laren, okay, cool, sounds like a cool character. And 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.880 I bought the book on Kindle and then really cool. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.440 Obviously the first thing idea is go to the little 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.160 search icon at the top, Nick no results. Hang on 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.440 if is it? Maybe it's spelled an I K no, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.920 Nic no, no, he's not in it. I was like, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.080 so I I didn't, you know, I didn't bother reading 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.320 the bookcase I don't care if my character is not anything, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:03.320 and I'm not interested. No, I did read it. I 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:07.640 did a moment. It's a moment to be like, okay, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.360 then I'm going to read it anyway. You know, you 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.160 recovered you you, you got your you know, you recovered 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.120 with your your emotions. And then Dove write it. You 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.520 said your aside and Dove straight it. I love that 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:24.679 you set your prior to side. Thanks Rob. I did. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.400 I did read it, and then I almost stopped because 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.080 I thought, I actually don't want to know what happens here. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.960 I don't want to find out because there's obviously when 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.320 the ending is different, right, so like it is, dex 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.120 read it while I was auditioning, and and then I 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.200 was like, Oh, these are the things that happened, and 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:41.599 then I got some more scripts and I was like, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.640 I don't think so. I don't think any of this happens, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.159 And so like, we're definitely changing some bits that you 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.400 that you are holding onto, but again you know that, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.839 and Kat and I have been through this many a 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.839 time with book fans of the shows that we were on, Like, 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:57.720 you have no choice but to change certain things. You 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.320 keep the elements of the things that you really like, 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.080 and you try and whole dear to the and true 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.800 to the characters and the sort of general story as 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.960 much as possible. But it's such an interesting thing that 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.880 some book fans, some sort of very fervent book fans, 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.040 want a carbon copy of that book to just to 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.000 be on screen, versus having that story told via a 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.080 new medium, via new storytelling techniques and actually make it 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.720 sort of interesting and something engaging rather than waiting for 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.080 like I know this thing is going to happen. I 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:27.680 want to see this happen. I wanted to see this happen. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.200 I don't think there's a right or wrong way of 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.080 doing it, but I know, from my point of views, 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.840 at least as sort of TV storytelling. I find it 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.840 more interesting to be able to adapt certain things and 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.040 change things and make it, you know, a little bit ours, 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.000 whilst also being like, we understand that this was your 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.720 baby first, and we want to you know, we want 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:48.640 to cherish it and make it interesting again, you know, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.840 a second time, make it real interesting. It's it's lovely 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.520 when it still stays true to the heart of what 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.200 the story is. But even folks who know every word 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.760 of the book verbatim, it can still be something fresh 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.080 and something new and something exciting, and it's almost a 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.160 re experiencing of the book for you know, for these 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.920 fans that even know it so so very well. Yeah, 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.560 that's actually one of the common things we've heard from 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.880 the fans of the book that have said, oh, it's 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.800 really fun to see even Rachel and Tyler having their 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.680 characters expanded and then having new characters like Nicklaren and 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.560 you know, I think there's so much fun to be 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.120 had and it's like sort of the fantasy dreamland of 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.400 Partner tracked the book. You know, we get to glamorize 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:37.679 it for TV and you know, exactly, and it just 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.199 allows for so much growth, So it feels fun. Yeah, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.000 I think there's no way to fully fully do it textually. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.959 I mean, there's there's certain things that will I think 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:52.400 in any book be impossible to produce. Just fundamentally, as 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.520 long as there's sort of mutual respect between the two, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.960 the respective both of the two different mediums, I think 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:03.079 it tends to work out generally for the best. Well, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.800 speaking of fun, I'm very jealous because New York City 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.920 is one of my favorite cities in the world, and 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.679 the fact that you guys not only get to live 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.520 there and shoot there on a show that was set there. Um, 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.400 Shadow Hunters was also set in New York and we 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.400 shot in Toronto, so you were extremely lucky. Tell me 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.400 what that was like and what that you know, that 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.680 whole experience was for you, and what were your favorite 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.240 or maybe least favorite parts of filming in New York City, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:30.480 The plaza man, getting to shoot your pa. I grew up. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.679 I think I've said this already, but you know, I 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.959 remember that age where I grew up watching films like Crocodile, 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.079 Dundee and Home Alone to like these iconic movies saying 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.560 as the hotel, it's just it's so so exciting to 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.640 realize that God that you know, that's where they stood there, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.200 and that's where that amazing scene happens on those steps, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.640 and yeah, it's magical. It's magically I had. I was 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.679 sort of lucky. A lot of my scenes we're all 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.040 on locations, so I wasn't doing as much obviously, I 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.120 didn't have any stuff in the jury box everything like that, 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.280 So I was actually had this kind of intense days 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.880 early on where we'd be in Bemleman's Bar in the 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.760 Carlisle Hotel, which was I think that your first day 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.599 as well done. It was my first day. There was 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.800 a lot of first days actually, and that's the kind 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.000 of iconic bar on the Upper east Side. And actually 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.760 during the making doing production, this this article came out 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.240 in the New York Post saying all these like old 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.560 timey Upper east Side seventy year olds are furious that 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.240 the bell Woman's Bar has been taken over by a 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.720 new generation of tiktoker's who are like queuing up to 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.160 go and get you know, like get themselves in the bar. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.719 And remember reading that Chow into Georgia going, yeah, we're 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.400 going to be part of the problem there, aren't we. Yeah. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.200 That was literally like that article came out maybe the 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.280 week that we were shooting there, because I remember we 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.400 were all discussing it, like in our chairs, sat in 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.840 Bemleman's bar, like, oh no, this is us, we're doing this. 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.240 Actually rushed it through the press. The journalist was were 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.480 shooting and they were like, we're writing this. They we're 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.679 very angry about this. They were mostly angry at Dom 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:09.120 and really that's where Yeah, these drinking all our whiskey. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.720 It's true, they're always taking over drinking our whiskey. Yeah. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.679 I think for me, shooting in New York was just 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.960 it felt so surreal, especially when we go back and 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.600 watch the show. I think when I watch it, I 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.080 see how big of a character New York played in 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.760 our show. But then when we were filming, you're just 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.439 so in it and it feels so hectic. Because when 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.680 you film on a set or a lot, you just 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:38.200 kind of live there. You know, everything actually feels quite easy. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.360 You're sort of on the same set every day, you 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.200 kind of check in, check out, it's all the same. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.680 But when you're shooting on location and you're shooting in 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:50.079 this big city, the city plays a huge character. Trailer moves, 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.760 the locations move sometimes you don't know where the trailer is. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.040 Sometimes you don't know where set is. You're like wondering 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.040 this city kind of think for me, yeah, it's chaos. 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:02.280 It's really wild because there's days where you know, you know, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.360 Dom dez rob I, we would all just be like 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.199 on set and you can never go back to your trailer. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.600 It's so funny. Sometimes you don't realize that even having 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.720 five minutes of silence can be quite healing for an 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:20.680 actor and give you time to sort of recharge. But 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.959 we were just in it, and if I think about 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.240 that now, I'm like, oh, wow, we did that. It's 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.680 really cool. Like New York played such a big part 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.160 in our show, and I never spent a long extended 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.040 time in New York, so I feel like I learned 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.640 about the city while we were shooting, and I saw 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.080 so much of the city. And even when we shot 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.000 a retreat that was beautiful where I was like, oh, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.160 look at New York. There's greenery and it's nature. I 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.520 love it because I feel like I'm such not a 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.439 city girl. In New York itself is like terrifying for me. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.040 Like everyone's mad, everyone's so angry, and everyone's like yelling 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.280 I get it, man, I lived in London for so long, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.040 Like I just I understand. People got places to be, 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.760 and like if you get stuck behind the slow walker, 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.400 it drives me crazy. And like my girlfriend's quite a 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.440 slow walker, and I will be like walking the dog 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.720 and talking and then I turned around. She's like eight 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.040 meters behind me, and I'm like, I've been I've been 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.880 talking to you for an hour and a half, Like 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.480 what's how long have you been back there? Because we're 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.880 talking about some serious stuff, like I don't you agreed 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.560 to a bunch of things like that. They I hope 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.280 you like the curtains because I picked them out and 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.720 ordered them. Whether you heard it or not, I've already 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.679 been on my phone this whole time. Yeah, it was 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.080 a day where we I think it was the day 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.000 where we just went for lunch. Wasn't there Rather the 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.560 day that we shot in the arts club where they 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.439 were like, oh, yeah, we're going to shuffle you back 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.839 for like a weird sort of crafted dunch. No, there's 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.440 just there's a restaurant literally that's just go and have 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.079 some sort of stacey And that's what we did, and 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.560 that that's one of the things about being in the city. Yeah, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.160 well that was one of the best days. And I 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.079 think it was because it was one of those things 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.960 where if we were to walk back to our trailers, 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.839 it would have taken us nearly twenty minutes. But you 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.559 what's lunch, we get like thirty minutes. We were like, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.880 why don't we just eat here instead of walking all 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:07.679 the way back to our trailers and then coming all 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.400 the way back to set. We'll actually save time eat 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.080 quickly versus like walking twenty minutes, eating for two minutes 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.720 and then walking back. That's themagining in New York. The 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:22.440 block provides, right provides. Yeah, actually, that was my first time. Yeah, 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:23.760 that was my first time. It was one of the 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.960 transfer guys, but it was it was my first time 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:30.440 in New York ever, and was it really Yeah, that 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.480 was my first time literally stating for New York, and 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.120 I kind of took to it like a dufter water 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:35.640 because I'm a city I am a city boy. I 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.920 love it. I love that place. I'm like, I'm going 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.080 to walk behind these tourists and make them feel like 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.880 they're walking too slow. Even though I was like the 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:48.600 second day in town, I knew that was you YouTube 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:58.160 series like it just walks slightly too fine and like 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:06.640 the Asian Australia and superhero down of innocent bystanders. Honestly, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.360 I can see Dessi playing a superhero in a heartbeat, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.120 and like, I want you to have a better power 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.040 than than like slightly quicker walking, but like I can 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.120 see you playing the superhero. That might be all we get. 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.920 That might be all we get. Speed walking. Man, what 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.160 was it like being your first time in New York? Well, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.200 it was, it was. It was intimidating at first because 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.400 they put us in a hotel right on Times Square, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.840 like the front opened up two Times Square, which which 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.480 is which I quickly found out as the worst place 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.920 in New York. But yeah, So the day the transport 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.400 guide said that to me and picked me up, I 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.160 was a little freaked out because I'd gone through the 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.760 whole Time Square crushed to find him, and I was 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.720 super stressed, and I was late because he couldn't get 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.840 into there was something going on. He couldn't get to 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.040 the front door, and I was trying to have a 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.920 gate and I was like, oh man, that's gonna be crazy, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:57.000 and he's like, don't alright, dude. The block provides cool. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.640 What the fund does that mean? Yeah, you get it 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:25.560 after a while. Yeah, I first met you just because 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.200 Arden did this amazing Thanksgiving dinner for everyone. She hosted 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:34.200 everyone that was in town drink Thanksgiving the best company ever, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.480 has to be said, and she invited everyone over who 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.000 was in town, said to where she was staying in 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.000 the West Village and have this amazing spread. And that 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:42.800 was that was That's actually one of my best memories. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.160 And it wasn't even I totally forgot about that. And 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:51.320 your parents parents, parents are so precious, you guys. Rob's 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.760 parents emailed me like the sweetest emails and we just 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.800 went back and forth because they were like, thank you 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:02.080 for having us for our first American Thanksgiving. So much special. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.320 It really did. And you know what's crazy, we don't 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.600 have a single photo from that day because everybody was 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:13.560 in it. We were having so much really cool. Yeah, 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.520 it's like it's like when you know when everyone like 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.640 nobody's really talking when they're eating, and you're like, oh, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.919 everyone's enjoying this, like everyone's having a good like this, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.520 you don't really need to be chatting, Like we can 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.640 chat before and after. It's the same thing with the photos, 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.359 like everyone was so sort of interconnected that there was 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.800 nobody thought like, let's take a photo of all of 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.320 us right now, because we just you know, you were 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.440 in the middle. I wasn't there. I don't know if 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.520 it might invite got lost in the mail, whatever it was. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:45.280 We invited everyone but Dominant, Oh, of course was invited. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.920 I was invited. I was. That's why we didn't chat 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.359 the photo is because we would have had to photoshop domin, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.240 which normally and then he would have he would have 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:54.920 been all funny about it. And it's just and then 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.919 this shop him in and then what like gasolt him 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:02.280 into thinking he was there. There's let me tell you, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.159 I don't know how this keeps happening, but like I 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.360 look like I'm photo shopped end photos, even when I'm 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.080 when I was there when the photo was taken, like 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.800 the last one on my wes, because you're so photogenic, dumb. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.440 It's just what happened, isn't It's not that it looks 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.880 like a cut out. I look like like this one. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.280 Can you see this? I'm here that's sort a different 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.000 field of focus, and like I'm in different lighting. Somehow 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.760 I was there. I was with every paris your Christmas 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.080 defines the laws of conventional physics. It's crazy and it 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.840 happens to be all the time. We need to never 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.000 put down on the end. Whenever he's on the end, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.280 his whole body is like reflecting light and he's like 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.880 focus only on me. Let me be like the standalone. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.280 At least one hand needs to be on the shoulder 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.000 at all times. Someone needs to be connected to me 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.720 so that you know that I was there. But it's 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.400 really weird. We have like ten group photos and they 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:02.400 all look like dominics. Isn't so speaking of being connected 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.240 because all of these seem to have made such a 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.040 connection on set. What's the connection been like with the audience? 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.440 What's the reception to the show been like so far? 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.320 For you? Have you had some you know, encounters with 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.240 folks in person or on social media anything that's what's 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.199 been your favorite sort of moment of someone connecting with 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.000 the story so far? I think my favorite thing has 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:28.120 been all the Asian American women and men, also mothers 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.600 and fathers sending me letters saying how much this means 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.320 to them for their children and for the little girl 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.560 that they were fifteen twenty years ago. And feeling so 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.320 excited that our stories are being told. Yeah, I think 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:48.199 I didn't realize the impact that the show would have 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.920 in such a deeper level, because you know, when we're 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.800 filming the show, we're just we're acting, we're having fun, 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.560 we're make believe, right, we're shooting at the plaza, We're 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.520 wearing gowns and taxes, and it's like doing the lawyer thing. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:07.840 But then you realize for someone watching, I mean, it 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.960 can feel life changing for someone to see a person 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.960 that they relate to or someone that they feel like 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:18.520 they can identify with. And so that's been really incredible. Yeah, 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.640 I mean I think for me and said everything for 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.720 the response from the Asian community has been nice. Um fundamentally, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.840 I don't think I've done a show that represents in 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:34.680 any particular way before, and it is nice seeing that. 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.480 I think I said this to you yesterday. But the 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.199 search that that search for community and that social identity 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.240 is such a powerful engine and I think I'm was 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.600 starting to see our community sort of tune it up 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:48.639 as it were, you know, it's getting a couple of 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.720 bells and whistles at it, and it's just been nice 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.479 being part of that process. Yeah, really, I open up 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.000 for me this stuff because you know, there's that difference 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.280 between understanding something and as a concept in your head 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.760 and then understanding it kind of more in your heart physically. 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.080 And that very much the case to me with representation, 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.600