Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back? Move the sticks, dj Buck
Speaker 1: with you, Buck? How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 2: I'm good, Djay.
Speaker 3: Just navigating everything that is high school graduation, graduation.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: No graduates on Friday, and then it's on yep, what
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 1: When do you when you're heading out to Austin?
Speaker 3: Uh? Not until middle of August. I think I think
Speaker 3: she would graduate Friday, she would go to an orientation
Speaker 3: like early June, and then she'ld go mid middle of August.
Speaker 3: And then it's all, that's awesome, man, that's so cool.
Speaker 3: Well that's a that's a tremendous honor man. Not an
Speaker 3: easy place to get into. So excited, excited for your daughter,
Speaker 3: and uh yeah after here, Yeah she should be fun
Speaker 3: like she she wants to be a filmmaker, so she
Speaker 3: wants to get into making documentaries and stuff. And so
Speaker 3: right now she's talking about like she's in the film school,
Speaker 3: which you may pick up some journalism stuff and knock
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: I love it. Maybe we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: No, I love it today, Buck, We're gonna have some
Speaker 1: fun with this, uh, with this flag football decision that
Speaker 1: came down, we got flag football in the Olympics. For
Speaker 1: those who don't know, uh Buck as a high school coach.
Speaker 1: But also Buck has a huge history in that world,
Speaker 1: in the seven on world because you did with the
Speaker 1: leege eleven and uh and you're coaching that on a
Speaker 1: yearly basis, So I think you have some insights into
Speaker 1: what what plays well in seven on seven versus yeah,
Speaker 1: regular because it is different, and I think it might
Speaker 1: I think people might be surprised about the skill sets
Speaker 1: that work great in in seven on seven versus that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it's funny because like this flag football thing is
Speaker 3: going to be interesting to watch, and you've had uh
Speaker 3: so many players expressed it as I had to kind
Speaker 3: of have this Steph Curry moment. But you know, DJ,
Speaker 3: it'd be a lot of pressure on NFL guys going
Speaker 3: out of it because this is a completely different game.
Speaker 2: It's very similar to when they open up three on three.
Speaker 3: Uh in the Olympics board, Like it's a different game
Speaker 3: than five on five and all that. It'd be interesting
Speaker 3: to see USA Football is in charge of kind of
Speaker 3: putting it together, it'd be interesting to see one if
Speaker 3: they have a combine. Two, how do you go about
Speaker 3: cutting some prominent NFL players and telling them they're not
Speaker 3: good enough? But we've seen that in USA basketball. But
Speaker 3: then having the skill says to do what is required
Speaker 3: to win at a high level when they've won successfully
Speaker 3: without NFL players, that's also a challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, five on five, so it's a little different there.
Speaker 1: By the way, there has been like a competitive flag
Speaker 1: football world for adults, mind you, that has existed for
Speaker 1: a very long time. And the reason that I first
Speaker 1: became aware of it was my son. Only have I
Speaker 1: ever told you this story, but he was playing. He
Speaker 1: was playing Friday night lights up up in Temecula, up
Speaker 1: A Marieta, and he was he was maybe eight years
Speaker 1: old or something, and he had a coach who was
Speaker 1: and I'm i'm i'm I think we're on the same
Speaker 1: page as parents, like, I'm a step back. Let the
Speaker 1: coaches coach. I'm not I'm not stepping on any toes
Speaker 1: and want my son to be able to hear other voices.
Speaker 1: Listen to them, and listen to your coach, do what
Speaker 1: they say. My son was playing quarterback and he's you
Speaker 1: know again, seven, eight, nine years old something. He's a
Speaker 1: little kid, and they're trying to throw deep balls, and
Speaker 1: so he's this coach has got him crow hopping like
Speaker 1: he's a center fielder to get enough on the ball
Speaker 1: to be able to throw the ball deep down the field.
Speaker 1: So they have a little break in practice, you know,
Speaker 1: and the kids get a little snack, some water whatever.
Speaker 1: So my son comes over to me. I go, hey,
Speaker 1: what what are you doing. He said, well, he told
Speaker 1: me in order to throw it deep, I got to
Speaker 1: do that. I said, well, that's you know, this is
Speaker 1: kind of the age where let's just develop good habits
Speaker 1: and then we can, you know, go from there. I said,
Speaker 1: let's not do that. If you can't throw it as
Speaker 1: far as that, you know you need to do. You
Speaker 1: need to take your drop and you get the ball
Speaker 1: up a little bit earlier, like just get it out
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, you know that way, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: get it up, get it up, and get it out.
Speaker 1: So then, and of course, like I didn't think it through,
Speaker 1: So I'm watching the rest of the practice. So then
Speaker 1: he does what I told him, and then I'm off
Speaker 1: to the side and I see the coach go over
Speaker 1: and talk to him. And then I see my son
Speaker 1: look over at me, and I, oh, I'm in trouble.
Speaker 1: So the coach comes over to me and he's like, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: appreciate it if you wouldn't, you know, coach your son.
Speaker 1: You know, like that's what I'm here to do, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And he needs to he needs to do
Speaker 1: that footwork and that crow hop in order he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a strong enough farm. I go, well, he's eight
Speaker 1: years old, so you know that's you know, not how
Speaker 1: many eight year old you're gonna be able to throw
Speaker 1: the ball that far. But I said, I just I
Speaker 1: don't want to step on your toes. You you know,
Speaker 1: play who you want to play, run the places you
Speaker 1: want to play. I just I would just want him
Speaker 1: to have good habits like this is young kids, Like,
Speaker 1: let's developed good fundamentals and habits as you you know,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm asking. And he goes, well, I play
Speaker 1: professional flag football, and I think you just need to
Speaker 1: trust me. And Buck, I'm sitting here like do I No,
Speaker 1: I got the card. I can pull the card out.
Speaker 1: I got the card. I can pull it out.
Speaker 2: It's just got a rock with it.
Speaker 1: So he goes up, so I just kind of look
Speaker 1: at him and I go, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I would I would just say, like, look, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of kids on this team. You can probably put
Speaker 1: my son in all of these other positions, Like maybe
Speaker 1: just let somebody else play quarterback then, because that's just
Speaker 1: you know, I just liked him to do it the
Speaker 1: other way, so that's fine, but just let somebody else
Speaker 1: play quarterback. He play another position. So I avoided playing
Speaker 1: the card, but I remember thinking that that first of all,
Speaker 1: like where is this professional flag football league that this
Speaker 1: guy's talking about? Why is this a badge of honor?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: But uh it was hilarious, man. But that was when
Speaker 1: I realized, like, holy crap, there's this whole world out there, a.
Speaker 3: Brand new world everything, and they play adult flag all
Speaker 3: over the place. I've done it into different iterations of flag,
Speaker 3: like I coached in a flag lee. My son was
Speaker 3: coming up where you could actually block, like you had
Speaker 3: three lines I'm and some skill guys. You could actually
Speaker 3: kind of put some physicality up there and do your thing.
Speaker 3: And then the five on five is really open space
Speaker 3: reverses and double passes and all the other it's a
Speaker 3: speed game. Not only that, DJ is how do you
Speaker 3: teach them how to avoid getting their flat taken without
Speaker 3: flag guard? Because you know, that's a big thing. So
Speaker 3: it's the twisting of the hips, is to dip and
Speaker 3: get lowst it's going sideways. I mean, there are a
Speaker 3: lot of little nuances that allow you to become good.
Speaker 3: And then I'll say this, like, you know, you got
Speaker 3: to have your fast guys position in the right spots
Speaker 3: on defense, and I don't know, can you imagine Tyrek
Speaker 3: Hill being the pass rusher?
Speaker 2: Like? So you got to reimagine what you think. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You got to reimagine what you think.
Speaker 4: About the sport and players and what works because yeah,
Speaker 4: like what you think works in traditional football does not
Speaker 4: work in flag and you.
Speaker 2: Got to be ready for it. All right.
Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, as we're kind of starting
Speaker 1: this thing up, and we have some other stuff we
Speaker 1: want to get to, but on the fly, here, if
Speaker 1: we were just gonna do like a it's ten man rosters, right,
Speaker 1: So if we were just gonna go back and forth
Speaker 1: and have a little draft here, let's say let's do
Speaker 1: let's do nine because you have the quarterback. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many quarteracks would they carry too, you think
Speaker 1: on a roster, I mean, I mean, can we you
Speaker 1: got to have two in case somebody gets if something
Speaker 1: happens to the quarterback, you couldn't play. You need another quarterback, right.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe in this one of those guys Josh
Speaker 3: Jacobs played a quarterback in high school?
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, can we find can you find a
Speaker 2: two way player?
Speaker 1: Why? Why don't we do this? Why don't we do
Speaker 1: why don't we do? You want to do seven players?
Speaker 1: Like a little draft here, a little quick little draft.
Speaker 1: We'll do seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, we can go, we can go fast and.
Speaker 1: Get some guys you would you would like here. So
Speaker 1: I want, first of all, before we do that, what
Speaker 1: what is a misconception about that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What is something that everybody at home is thinking, Oh,
Speaker 1: this guy would be a great flag football player for
Speaker 1: a great seven or five on? How are we going
Speaker 1: to discuss this? What is the misnomer there? Look?
Speaker 3: Man, I think I think speed is everything. I think
Speaker 3: speed and length are everything.
Speaker 2: And I think you want some guys because with that roster, DJ,
Speaker 2: we've got to have some two way guys.
Speaker 3: So you've got to have some guys that have enough
Speaker 3: general athleticism that they can do a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: But like, I'm gonna put a premium on speed and
Speaker 3: agility because I just want to overwhelm people on the
Speaker 3: speed part of it, whether it's vertical or even the
Speaker 3: crossing routes. But really, I'm thinking about being able to
Speaker 3: disrupt you with my past rush. I mean having a
Speaker 3: young past rushing that can come after you like a
Speaker 3: speed demon.
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna let's just take quarterbacks out
Speaker 1: of it. We're not going to take quarterbacks, Okay, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a pick.
Speaker 2: I got to ask you who would be your flag
Speaker 2: football quarterback? Who would you take?
Speaker 1: Oh? I take Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, because.
Speaker 1: I just think I think seeing it processing it boom
Speaker 1: boom boom boom, like alls out accurate.
Speaker 3: So the person that came to mind for me was
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, because I want to have account if you
Speaker 3: do decide to rush me and do whatever.
Speaker 2: I want all bests to be out.
Speaker 1: So tell me the rules now, because I need to
Speaker 1: pull up.
Speaker 3: I don't see I don't I feel like every allowed
Speaker 3: to rush because if you can rush them, be like well,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get Lamar Jackson and that's going to eliminate
Speaker 3: all of that rushing.
Speaker 1: There were ten players five players in the field of
Speaker 1: time they're raining five players substitutes a life flexibility in
Speaker 1: the game. Games are in a five on five format.
Speaker 1: I got to do some more homework on that in
Speaker 1: terms of the different rules because the rushing thing that
Speaker 1: changes it. But to me, like I always think, Joe
Speaker 1: Burr makes sense. I was thinking the athleticism of the
Speaker 1: quarterback would be negated, but by the fact that we're
Speaker 1: just gonna throw, I want the most accurate, the fastest
Speaker 1: processor and ball placement premium mind.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think Joe Burr is enough to function, yeah,
Speaker 3: even if you have to move off the spot or
Speaker 3: whatever it is.
Speaker 2: And so let's take the quarterbacks out of it. Uh.
Speaker 1: I know who my my first pick might shock you.
Speaker 1: Who my first pick would be, Well, who's gonna be
Speaker 1: your first pick? Because I think there's gonna be so
Speaker 1: much emphasis on who can get open. I would take
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley with the first pick because I think I
Speaker 1: think he's the premier cover guy and I can take somebody.
Speaker 1: I can try and take somebody away. There so so,
Speaker 1: and I think he's a freaky athlete. You put him
Speaker 1: on offense, he can do he can help you on
Speaker 1: offense too.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't think about him being first. He's
Speaker 3: super talented. I am wondering, like, man without all the rules,
Speaker 3: I wonder, are you we committed to playing man man?
Speaker 3: Because you know, DJ, like, there's a lot of like.
Speaker 1: There's a five on five, don't you kind of have to.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Man, there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of crossing.
Speaker 3: This is this is when the next time we bring
Speaker 3: Bruce Veldman on, Bruce have as Bruce like, because you
Speaker 3: remember Bruce talked about Mike Leech had advised him Mesh Rock.
Speaker 3: You can't go wrong with Mesh wrong with all the crossrous.
Speaker 3: Dereck Stingley is a good one. I'm gonna go for
Speaker 3: a wide out and a playmaker. And the guy that
Speaker 3: comes to my for me is I kind of want
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase on my team. And the reason why I
Speaker 3: want Jamar Chase is I feel like I need someone
Speaker 3: who's a little rough and rugging and I don't believe
Speaker 3: that they can call everything when it's like the pushing
Speaker 3: off down to field, and I just know what Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: His physicality combined with like his athleticism, it's gonna be
Speaker 3: problematic for some people.
Speaker 1: I like that. I'm actually gonna go a really, really
Speaker 1: young player with my next pick because I also think
Speaker 1: just I want as much twitch as I can possibly get,
Speaker 1: and I just think the younger you are, you're gonna have,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna have more of than you. I would
Speaker 1: take Molik Neighbors with my next one. I think his
Speaker 1: combination of quickness, speed, and toughness, like, I think he'd
Speaker 1: be a He'd be a weapon out there in that well.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're talking about being a weapon.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're talking about Molik Neighbors and doing that
Speaker 3: to me, the perfect flat football player. We haven't even
Speaker 3: seen them play an NFL snap.
Speaker 1: I gotta take Travis Fotis Hunter.
Speaker 2: I got to get a two for one. I mean,
Speaker 2: you just te ended up.
Speaker 3: I think he has to go early just because of
Speaker 3: the ball skills and those things. And I think as
Speaker 3: we're looking at drafting guys, we're gonna dig a little
Speaker 3: deeper and look into the backgrounds and some of the
Speaker 3: things that they have, because I almost believe that you
Speaker 3: have to have the best set of athletes that have
Speaker 3: skilled because we are going to bounce people around and
Speaker 3: put them in unfamiliar It would.
Speaker 1: Be the point, what would be the point of taking
Speaker 1: a traditional running back, even like somebody like Bijeon or
Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs, like, wouldn't you just be better off just
Speaker 1: taking all wide receivers.
Speaker 3: I think I think it's I think it literally is
Speaker 3: a lot of wide receivers in DBS, maybe a freaky,
Speaker 3: freaky linebacker type because I think down in the red zone,
Speaker 3: we've got to be able to do the shovel pass
Speaker 3: to score a touchdowns. You got to have a little shovel.
Speaker 3: You gotta have a little something that you can flip
Speaker 3: to them or whatever. But yeah, I don't think the
Speaker 3: running back is in the mix. I mean, unless it's
Speaker 3: just an h hn someone that is just so fast
Speaker 3: that you can't keep up with it. But I think
Speaker 3: this is a hard game for those guys to get
Speaker 3: loose and get busy.
Speaker 1: I want some I want some kind of length and range.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, at this point in time, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take Justin Jefferson just because he's too good. He's
Speaker 1: too good, and even when he's gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: with bodies around him, he'll be able to play around
Speaker 1: and over people. So I'll go with Jefferson.
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson is a good one. I feel like you
Speaker 3: almost have to have like someone to negate that. And
Speaker 3: so you took Derek Stingley. I took Travis Hunter as
Speaker 3: one dB. I feel like I want the defensive player
Speaker 3: of the year somewhere in the mix. And Pastor Tan.
Speaker 3: I feel like I need a t ball to get
Speaker 3: ball defendseed. I'm gonna take Pastor Tan.
Speaker 1: I like that move, all right. So I've got two
Speaker 1: guys I'm deciding with, and I know that we're technically
Speaker 1: doing two different teams, but I'm gonna use you as
Speaker 1: a consultant on my team because I want to ask
Speaker 1: you this question. But again, for those Buck's got a
Speaker 1: lot of experience in this, so you have more experience
Speaker 1: of what works better in this format than others. Because
Speaker 1: if I gave you these two players and take your
Speaker 1: JAG's hat off, but Brian Thomas Junior with his speed
Speaker 1: and athleticism, size, range, all that stuff, or Amarah like Amorah.
Speaker 1: You saw him. I think you're with him at the
Speaker 1: leader A lot like this. He's been playing. He's been
Speaker 1: playing seven on seven since he was a kid. Like
Speaker 1: it's a big time recruit and nobody covered him during
Speaker 1: all I remember watching all that stuff when he was
Speaker 1: in high school. And he's been uncoverable in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So he's not the fastest guy, but he's he knows
Speaker 1: how to get open run routes separate DJ.
Speaker 3: So there's a there was a craze in seven h
Speaker 3: seven when Amra was playing where this dude would scored touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He would like hunt the ball, the ball, the ball.
Speaker 3: The reason why I would offer for Amana Saint Brown
Speaker 3: over Brian Thomas Junior is I love BTJ. But I
Speaker 3: will say this, there is a feistiness, yeah, that a
Speaker 3: Monra has that would enable him to be good on
Speaker 3: offense and defense. And I think you want to have
Speaker 3: some of that versatility in mind when you're thinking about
Speaker 3: building your team. But yeah, he is a spunky little
Speaker 3: dude that wants to come after it. He's good his
Speaker 3: special awareness, his route running ability, his quickness, particularly if
Speaker 3: you can clear the side and have him one on
Speaker 3: one working uh, he has some stuff to him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would, I would offer, Amma, Saint Bron, I'll I'll
Speaker 3: take I'm rather on your advice. So you're up next
Speaker 3: basically making your draft for two teams here book Nah.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, look, it's it's so good because you're
Speaker 3: thinking about the skill guys and being able to do something.
Speaker 3: It's so funny DJ because we're eliminating so many guys.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do this because I know he would
Speaker 3: want me to do it, knowing him from being in
Speaker 3: high school. I don't know where I could play him,
Speaker 3: but I feel like I got to have Michael Parson
Speaker 3: somewhere around, if not just for the conversation that is
Speaker 3: going to because I can tell you that he played
Speaker 3: on my seven H seven team and then I had
Speaker 3: to coach against him he was on another team. And
Speaker 3: the guy is a NonStop chatterbox. So not only that
Speaker 3: part that can annoy the other team if frustrated, I
Speaker 3: feel like he would be out Draymond Green in terms
Speaker 3: of that, but also his versatility. I know, you know
Speaker 3: in high school he was a running back, he was
Speaker 3: a defensive man.
Speaker 2: He's a linebacker. He's done a million different things. He's
Speaker 2: super twitchy and explosive. I feel like there's a way.
Speaker 3: And if he ineverently bumps somebody with getting their flag,
Speaker 3: I think that helps us.
Speaker 2: I think that's faith.
Speaker 1: It's a little size because I'm looking at Derwin James,
Speaker 1: who I think would be ex was great. He was
Speaker 1: so great he can do both offense defense and then
Speaker 1: but then I just wonder do you need the do
Speaker 1: you need the size or do you just need people
Speaker 1: who can who can separate on offense and who can
Speaker 1: just stay plastered, you know, on defense against any type
Speaker 1: of receiver. If you can be a small or quicker
Speaker 1: guy whatever you could match up against. Where if we're
Speaker 1: going to have a traditional tight end, traditional safety, I
Speaker 1: mean to me, I Bowers, I'm taking Derwin James and
Speaker 1: I'm letting those guys be those pieces. But I just
Speaker 1: don't know if you need a traditional player, like are
Speaker 1: you just trying to get the most like quick, able
Speaker 1: to separate package of players you can get.
Speaker 3: So going all the way back to when Derwin was
Speaker 3: in high school, we had a chance to I think
Speaker 3: he was on he was on my team too one time.
Speaker 3: Like Dju, this dude would cover people didn't flip around
Speaker 3: and play wide receiver. But I want Derwin on the
Speaker 3: team because you see it every week.
Speaker 2: I know if I've seen passion player that just that
Speaker 2: just loves it. Like I'm just betting on the.
Speaker 1: I'm convinced I'm an easy soeng I'm taking him. I
Speaker 1: love him so much, I'll take there.
Speaker 2: He's such He's such a good dude.
Speaker 1: So that's my five. Right now, I've got Stingley Neighbors,
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, Amen Ross, Saint Brown, and Derwin James. That's
Speaker 1: a fun group.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is a fun group. I feel like
Speaker 3: you have.
Speaker 1: One right now. You got a fun group too, because
Speaker 1: you've got Chase Hunters or Tan and Parsons.
Speaker 2: That's what you got.
Speaker 3: More firepower it in me right now, I feel like
Speaker 3: on Operense, I feel like I.
Speaker 1: Need to know you got to get a receiver.
Speaker 2: I need another playmaker, and so can.
Speaker 1: I Can I make my case to you real quick? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because You've helped me with a couple guys, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at your roster and I think this player would
Speaker 1: compliment your roster and what you have. You know who's
Speaker 1: and I'm biased because I watch him every week. But
Speaker 1: Lad McConkie is a nightmare cover. Do you remember? Do
Speaker 1: you remember him coming out? We talked about all those
Speaker 1: corners in sec he torched all of them. I mean
Speaker 1: his last game. I just saw him in Houston in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, had two hundred yards. Like nobody can. They
Speaker 1: can't cover him. He's too quick. I'm like, he would
Speaker 1: be a nightmare in you would be a nightmare.
Speaker 2: But I think I would be remiss if I don't
Speaker 2: take Tyreek Hill here.
Speaker 3: I feel like I need Yeah, how can we How
Speaker 3: can we have a flag football team without Tyreek Hill
Speaker 3: in the five? So I would take him there, but
Speaker 3: then I can use Lad McConkie as my austinate.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we still got we got one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four or five. We said we do seven, so we
Speaker 1: got a couple more rounds. I'm gonna give you another
Speaker 1: shot at that one, all right? So next next one
Speaker 1: for me? I wonder if I should grab another another corner,
Speaker 1: another defensive back here? Hmm. I know he did not
Speaker 1: play well last year, but saw like his length eye
Speaker 1: Oh I think yeah, I know again. I know he
Speaker 1: did not play like he wanted to play, but I
Speaker 1: know that talent is in there. I'm gonna I think
Speaker 1: I would. So that gave me my three defensive players
Speaker 1: would be Stingley, Derwin and Sauceguard. I think i'd feel
Speaker 1: good about that. I think I'm gonna go that route.
Speaker 2: Man DJ, I just put his name in my Google
Speaker 2: search track because.
Speaker 1: He didn't play as well last year. But no, he didn't,
Speaker 1: but I was looking for it.
Speaker 3: I was looking to read his bio to see about
Speaker 3: his high school exploits.
Speaker 1: That the only thing about him, the only thing about
Speaker 1: him is that he doesn't catch the ball well, which
Speaker 1: is probably a problem them in this environment.
Speaker 2: Can we hand it to him on the jet suite?
Speaker 2: Can we hand it to.
Speaker 3: I think in those situations we can make him like
Speaker 3: a like a defensive specialists somewhere we can use like that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: This is this is where it gets really really interesting.
Speaker 3: When we started looking at like who's available, I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm I got speed, I got Tyreek Hill, I
Speaker 3: have Chase, I have a big body, and Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: I have a two way player and Travis Hunter, so
Speaker 3: we're good on that side. I feel like I need
Speaker 3: another guy that can kind of make some plays all
Speaker 3: over the field. I really would like a center fielder. Uh,
Speaker 3: let's do this. At one point, this guy was leading
Speaker 3: the league in interceptions playing centerfielder. Let's go U the
Speaker 3: kid from Green Bay. McKinnie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, McKenny, he's a good part.
Speaker 2: Let's go centerfield player.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, I'm okay. My last one, this one, I
Speaker 1: just I I want to see what it's like to
Speaker 1: try and cover this group of guys that I got here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take A J. Brown with my last pick.
Speaker 1: So I've got neighbors justin Jefferson, I'm and Raw and
Speaker 1: a J. Brown.
Speaker 2: That's a lot.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of guys you gotta cover like
Speaker 1: that's that's and I've got different skill sets. I've got
Speaker 1: strength and power. I thought about Drake Lennon because of
Speaker 1: the size, But to me, AJ Brown can go up
Speaker 1: and get those balls, and they can play a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit quicker. So I'm gonna go that way.
Speaker 2: Man. Look at you DJ, look at you.
Speaker 1: Just put So we I got three defensive players. You've
Speaker 1: got You've got Hunter who can go both ways or
Speaker 1: tandem parsons. So you've got your No, you've got McKinnie
Speaker 1: So you've got really four guys who have experience playing
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. You got get
Speaker 1: another offensive guy.
Speaker 2: I need, I need another I need I need another weapon.
Speaker 2: I need another So I need someone that can take
Speaker 2: it down the field. I need.
Speaker 3: This is a good one, because this is a really
Speaker 3: good athlete. I need someone to balance out my wide
Speaker 3: receive a corps. So how about we tell you pooka
Speaker 3: Nakula just because of his size and his limb and
Speaker 3: it's weird, I'm taking him over CD Lamb. But I'm
Speaker 3: taking him because anyone who has watched him delve into
Speaker 3: those four rays, slam dunk competition, all the stuff.
Speaker 1: Give me poker, Okay, I like that. So our teams
Speaker 1: are set. I've got Stingley Neighbors, Justin Jefferson, I'm around
Speaker 1: Saint Brown, Derwin, James Sauce Gardner A J. Brown. I
Speaker 1: got to get Sauce on the jugs machine. That's the
Speaker 1: one thing I gotta do before we get out there.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that worries me. That's the ball man. Uh.
Speaker 1: You've got jamar Jas, Travis Hunter, Patterton, Micah Parsons, Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: Zaman McKinney pooka the cour it'd be fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Like I was just I just watched that documentary last night.
Speaker 1: I had not seen it, the Grant Hill won where
Speaker 1: they showed the college the Select team that beat the
Speaker 1: Dream Team in that uh, in that scrimmage in Lahoya
Speaker 1: when they were getting ready for the ninety two Olympics.
Speaker 1: Had a lot of behind the scenes footage on that
Speaker 1: and had all those guys and uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: was just kind of watching that and how they got
Speaker 1: them ready, and I was like, gosh, man, it would
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. Who would be the on like
Speaker 1: the quote unquote select team. Maybe they use college kids,
Speaker 1: uh to come get this flag football team ready. I'd
Speaker 1: pay to watch that. I mean, like, that's bring Jeremiah
Speaker 1: Smith out there, let's bring Ryan Williams out there, let's
Speaker 1: bring Arch Manning out there. Where we got to get
Speaker 1: these guys ready.
Speaker 3: Well, I am surprised because I actually thought that one
Speaker 3: of those young guys we kind of inted a mix
Speaker 3: either Jeremiah Smith or Ryan Willis because they were so good,
Speaker 3: they're so young and they've grown up.
Speaker 1: One of them has to be Christian Laightner. Maybe we
Speaker 1: get maybe we bring a Christian Layner on.
Speaker 3: This beat them up a little bit, or we can
Speaker 3: have someone that shows up like Cooper flag to kind
Speaker 3: of like.
Speaker 1: Get by the way, by the way in that documentary.
Speaker 1: I had heard the stories and I've seen all those
Speaker 1: other documentaries, but on this one. So they won. That
Speaker 1: Select team won by eight points, like sixty two to
Speaker 1: fifty four. Oh yeah, and then the next day the
Speaker 1: Dream Team beat him by like forty five.
Speaker 2: Lou Wake Up Wake.
Speaker 1: That Select team had like I didn't realize all the
Speaker 1: dudes were on that team. It was Sea Webb, Penny Hardaway,
Speaker 1: Jamal Mashburn, Alan Houston, like, and then you had Grant
Speaker 1: Hill and that Bobby Hurley who was the dude from
Speaker 1: Wake Forest jacked up, muscled up dude.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Rodney Rodgers, Rodney Rodgers, he was, he was, he was,
Speaker 1: he was nice. Like watching some of the footage of him,
Speaker 1: he was nice. And then in montrosse was the other one.
Speaker 3: Imagine Rogers Rodney Rodgers playing quarterback and tied end in
Speaker 3: high school, because that's what he really at Durham come on, yeah,
Speaker 3: Durham Will said he was called very similar agent.
Speaker 2: Yeah close close.
Speaker 1: He's looking against him.
Speaker 2: No, thank god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but he was like a local legend or whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like Ronnie Rodgers lay quarterback or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's left handed to Yeah, didn't want he was in
Speaker 1: good health in that documentary. Unfortunate. I hope he's okay.
Speaker 2: But the ATV incident is that what it is? He
Speaker 2: was on? He was on he was on a quad
Speaker 2: squad run.
Speaker 3: He has a very successful like trucking business, hauling business
Speaker 3: or whatever, and then he was he was messing around
Speaker 3: on ATVs and.
Speaker 2: And flipped over and uh, quadriplegiate.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's terrible. I did not know. I just
Speaker 1: was watching him in it. Man, he was a good
Speaker 1: basketball player. I wasn't familiar with his Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's take a quick break. One other thing I
Speaker 1: want to hit on before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: But we'll take a quick break. We haven't done that yet.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, all right, Buck. There was you
Speaker 1: know some other news here that took place this week
Speaker 1: since we last talked. Push pushed. You get all worked
Speaker 1: up about that. To me, I don't really care, everybody.
Speaker 1: It's just I think we're looking for something. It ended
Speaker 1: up staying in and didn't get voted out. It just
Speaker 1: got so much attention. It tells you how powerful the
Speaker 1: NFL is, that this is like dominating social media. I
Speaker 1: just if they ban it, they're just gonna run a
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and you can probably have darned near similar success.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: To me, I thought it was weak sauce on the
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers and all the other teams that wanted
Speaker 3: to get it out. Like, I think the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 3: deserve credit. We're really pouring a lot of time into
Speaker 3: making the play a very successful play. Other teams have
Speaker 3: tried to copy and they haven't had the same success.
Speaker 3: I think you're penalizing the Eagles for mastering something that
Speaker 3: was well within the rules. I think what is interesting
Speaker 3: now that it has passed and survived at least for
Speaker 3: another year. If I'm the Philadelphigans, do I just kind
Speaker 3: of start running that, just periodically sprinkling that in because
Speaker 3: I know everyone has it. Is that kind of like
Speaker 3: the screw you to a FA, Like we go in
Speaker 3: four minute offense and we're just gonna push our way yea.
Speaker 2: So to me, it was just add like player safety.
Speaker 3: I love man. I think you have to dig in
Speaker 3: and we've seen it stop. Here's the thing, we've seen
Speaker 3: teams stop it. I think you have to commit like
Speaker 3: they've committed to being good at it. You got to
Speaker 3: commit the same kind of time and energy to find
Speaker 3: a way to stop it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just don't know. I couldn't get all worked
Speaker 1: up about it personally, But that was that was a
Speaker 1: big story. So another story that came down was on
Speaker 1: the sad side of things. Jim or Say, the owner
Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts, passed away at sixty five. Sad
Speaker 1: situation there. Again, our thoughts and prayers go out to
Speaker 1: his daughters, his family, everyone with the Colts who have
Speaker 1: been through a rough patch. Here man, our buddy, Matt Turpening,
Speaker 1: his wife had passed away. Matt has been in that
Speaker 1: organization for over twenty years.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know they did our best to try
Speaker 1: and honor her during the during the draft, and now
Speaker 1: they lose their owner and sixty five is young man,
Speaker 1: So sad situation there. I got to meet him a
Speaker 1: couple of times just to shake shake hand and say hello.
Speaker 1: I remember being out of training camp one year. It
Speaker 1: was the year I was actually there the day and
Speaker 1: I'm sure we talked about it on the pod, but
Speaker 1: I was there the day that Jonathan Taylor went into
Speaker 1: his bus or whatever you know, to meet with Ersa
Speaker 1: on the bus and then came out. It was basically
Speaker 1: I want to be traded and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy day. It was a crazy day.
Speaker 1: But Ursay was going around in his golf cart and
Speaker 1: he was literally finding just fans handing out a hundred
Speaker 1: dollar bills. Unbelievable, given total strangers, one hundred dollars bills
Speaker 1: that just to thank him for coming out to training camp.
Speaker 1: But I know he was He was eccentric and like
Speaker 1: a unique guy, loved music. But I just remember thinking,
Speaker 1: like this guy is a and and all these stories
Speaker 1: have come flooding out. You've seen him paying for funerals
Speaker 1: and all the different things he did. It was a
Speaker 1: very generous, very generous man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's unfortun'd very sad. Sixty five is so young.
Speaker 3: I mean when you when you just think about, like
Speaker 3: so much life still left to live. But he certainly
Speaker 3: left his mark on the National Football League and the
Speaker 3: work that has been done by the Colts in that city.
Speaker 3: Looking very proud franchise a franchise that has been very,
Speaker 3: very successful since making the move to Indianapolis. And DJ
Speaker 3: we talked about, like through the Peyton Manning era, the
Speaker 3: Andrew Luck era, this was one of the teams that
Speaker 3: you always talked about. They were going to be in
Speaker 3: the final four, they were always in the hunt. The
Speaker 3: model consistency in terms of the way that they approached
Speaker 3: the game and the way to do business. So look,
Speaker 3: he certainly will be missed. We think about his imprint
Speaker 3: on one bringing a Super Bowl to Middle America at
Speaker 3: a time when no one really thought that that would
Speaker 3: be possible given weather conditions.
Speaker 2: In those things, they were able to do that.
Speaker 3: We think about Indianapolis being the home of the NFL
Speaker 3: Scouting Combine and how important that is to the league.
Speaker 3: Jim Mersey deserves a lot of credit not only for
Speaker 3: what he did for that organization, but what he did
Speaker 3: for the town and the city of Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. He's done a
Speaker 1: great job of creating a football town. Really, a lot
Speaker 1: of that goes to Peyton Manning and the work that
Speaker 1: he did, and the coaching staff, Coach Doungee, everyone that
Speaker 1: they had there during those years. And you know it's
Speaker 1: really is. You know, home the Combine is a football town,
Speaker 1: and you know racing is always going to be kind
Speaker 1: of the story of Indianapolis and the background there, but
Speaker 1: it is. It is a phenomenal football town and misters
Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit for that. And you know,
Speaker 1: again we pass along our prayers for him for his
Speaker 1: family as they're grieving right now. I'm sure all right, Buck,
Speaker 1: anything else you want to add before we get out
Speaker 1: of here, No.
Speaker 3: Man, just look to end on a down note like that.
Speaker 3: It's certainly sad and heartbreaking, and our wishes in condolences
Speaker 3: go out to all those people.
Speaker 2: But man, what a great time in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: So much interest and intrigue as we think about our
Speaker 3: eye to the season, we got mini camps and those
Speaker 3: things coming up. It is Look, man, I think this
Speaker 3: season is going to be fantastic because there's so many
Speaker 3: teams well positioned to make a jump. I think it
Speaker 3: may be one of the more competitive seasons that we
Speaker 3: see in terms of really trying to figure out who
Speaker 3: are going to be the teams that we talked about
Speaker 3: being the last one standing.
Speaker 1: I'll always tell you this too. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: parts about this time of the year, and I think
Speaker 1: this these end up coming out earlier and earlier. Nobody.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people don't read it. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say nobody. A lot of people don't read magazines anymore,
Speaker 1: but I'm still a sucker for college football preview magazines, Buck,
Speaker 1: especially in the era of the transfer portal, Like I
Speaker 1: got to figure out who's where, So I always look
Speaker 1: forward to going to you know, Barnes and Noble, getting
Speaker 1: that Lindy's magazine or how much how much fun is
Speaker 1: that let's like to hang out by the pool stuff, man,
Speaker 1: like it's kind of your summer thing and kind of
Speaker 1: keep up with that and maybe get a chance to
Speaker 1: pop a little tape on some of these guys as well.
Speaker 1: So we're not going where. We'll have plenty more shows
Speaker 1: coming your way all throughout the off season. As I
Speaker 1: like to refer to it as list season, Buck, everyone
Speaker 1: in sports media, how many lists can you come up with?
Speaker 1: Because that's where we are in the process. Out the
Speaker 1: other the day, I said, I'm gonna be the top
Speaker 1: top five reasons why it's about to be list season?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, we're right in this is when
Speaker 3: all the rankings come out. This is when we can
Speaker 3: get people uh stirred up about a lot of nothing.
Speaker 1: Yep, we'll be creative. If you've got any creative ideas
Speaker 1: for lists. By the way, shoot us shoots a little
Speaker 1: tweet on on X. Let us know what we should do.
Speaker 1: It's maybe a little different than everybody else is doing
Speaker 1: this time here. We'll try and get some guests on
Speaker 1: as well too. I love I love trying to cross
Speaker 1: sport conversation and all that stuff. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: we can do there. That's going to do it for today.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys hanging with us. We'll see you
Speaker 1: next time. Right here on, Move the sticks.