1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Have some of these raids gone too far? 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: No, I think they haven't gone far enough because we've 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: been held back by the judges, by the liberal judges 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: that were put in by Biden and by Obama. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: You're okay with those tactics. 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have to get the people out, you know, 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: you have to look at the people. Many of them 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: are murderers. Many of them are people that were thrown 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: out of their countries because they were, you know, criminal. 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: ferguson Good Morning. 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: It's nice to have you with us on the forty 13 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: seven Morning Update, and we are live in Jerusalem right now. 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: It is actually Tuesday, well where we're recording this with 15 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 3: my producer, it is Monday, eight hours ahead of where 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: he is right now. And I got to tell you, 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 3: trying to figure out the times to do these connections 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: the US has been comical. This show is going to 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: have a little bit different feel than normal as we 20 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: are going to be in Israel all week and we're 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: going to start with one of the incredible stories that 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: is on the front page of the Jerusalem Post. But first, 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: right now, all of us, our help is needed with 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: the people in Israel. 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The three partial remains that Hamas returned to 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: Israel on Friday night do not belong to any of 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: the hostages still in Gaza. DNA tests conducted at the 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: Greenberg Institute of Forensic Medicine have concluded late on Friday, 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: the IDF was preparing for the return of the partial 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: remains of three slain Godza hostages. The Red Cross, acting 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: as intermediaries, handed over the remains to the IDF troops overnight, 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: but Hamas had not specified whose remains it was handing over. 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: Hamas said in a statement on Saturday that had initially 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: offered three samples from unidentified bodies to Israeli authorities for 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: quote testing. In order to not impede the handover of 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: the bodies, we offered deliver three samples from a number 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: of unidentified corpses. Hamas stated on telegram saying quote Israel 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: refused to accept the sample and demanded to receive the 47 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: bodies for examination and we hand them over to preempt 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: the enemy's claims. Again Hamas still referring to Israel as 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: their enemy. A statement from the International Committee of the 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 3: Red Cross said that the organization acts as a neutral intermediary, 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 3: assisted this evening at the request and with the approval 52 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: of both parties, in return the remains of three bodies 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: to Israeli authorities. The identification process is the responsibility of 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: the revelant authorities in Israel and will be carried out 55 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: by then. The reality is these bodies did not belong 56 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: to any of the hostages, and this goes back to 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: what I have been witnessing since I've been in Israel. 58 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: This has been an incredible trip, as I have, for 59 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: the very first time on my pilgrimage, been able to 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: see where Jesus walked, see where he carried the cross 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: for his own death and to see exactly what life 62 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: is like in Israel. There are a couple things that 63 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: I want to be clear about. Number One, on this trip, 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: it has been a spiritual journey for me. I will 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: never shy away from talking about that. I will also 66 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: tell you that if you're thinking about coming to Israel, 67 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: now is the time to do it. It has been 68 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: incredibly safe, especially in Jerusalem, and I can tell you 69 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: that there are so many people that want to come 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: to Israel and they haven't felt like it was the 71 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: right time. After being here, I would feel incredibly safe 72 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: bringing my entire family. This ceasefire and the leadership of 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: Donald Trump to get this peace in the Middle East 74 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: and the Abraham Accords is truly historic, but it's also 75 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: very real. But there's also another aspect of this trip 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: that I think is as important to tell you about, 77 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: and that is witnessing the torture. Just like the story 78 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: I told you about Hamas and the partial remain Sentomas 79 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: that they said were the hostages were actually not at all. 80 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: What we are witnessing right now is truly psychological warfare. 81 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: It's psychological warfare by a terrorist organization. It still refers 82 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 3: to Israel as the enemy in their own statement on telegram. Today, 83 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: what we're also witnessing is something else. It's extremely concerning 84 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: and part of the reason why I decided to take 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: this trip to Israel, and that is the rise of 86 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: anti Semitism on the right in America. I had the 87 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: privilege this evening of speaking with and hearing the story 88 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: of the mother of one of the hostages that was 89 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: just returned to Israel. You may remember the video that 90 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: went viral of a young lady on the back of 91 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: a motorcycle sandwich between two men, holding her hand out, 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: begging for help from her boyfriend. You may remember that 93 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: he moved that camera to the right and you could 94 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: see the boyfriend pleading and wanting to grab his girlfriend. 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: They were taken hostage and they were separated. That story 96 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: I was able to film tonight of a man by 97 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: the name of mister Orr. The mother of the hostage 98 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: told the story of her son, of how she found 99 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: out about when he was taken, and how he was 100 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: kept underground without being able to see the sun, literally 101 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: for years. That story I have put up on social 102 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: media so that you can hear it. I have put 103 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: it up on my Facebook account the video, and I 104 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: hope that every one of you will go look at 105 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: it on Facebook so that you can hear that story. 106 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: But what you learn when you were here and you 107 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: talk to the hostage victims and their families is that 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: their stories have not been told by the media. Their 109 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: torture has not been told by the media. And in fact, 110 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: what we've seen by the media is for them to 111 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: imply on every opportunity they get that Israel is somehow evil, 112 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: that they are committing genocide, that they are the ones 113 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: that are hurting innocent people, which is not the case 114 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: at all. I go back to this partial remains that 115 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: were sent by Hamas knowing that it was not actually 116 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: the hostages bodies. This is torturing the families. They know, 117 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: this is psychological warfare. We also know that because the 118 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: leadership of President Trump, we got to the point where 119 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: all living hostages were given back, and there is incredible 120 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: gratitude in Israel right now for the President of the 121 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: United States of America and him accomplishing something very quickly 122 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: that the prior administration couldn't do or didn't do on purpose, 123 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: you can decide. Which brings me to the other point, 124 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: and it's something I'm going to be focusing on on 125 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: this show the next several days. There is definitely a 126 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: rise in anti Semitism in America in the right right now. 127 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: It is being led by names that I'm sure you 128 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 3: know about, Candice Owans, Tucker Carlson, Nick Flinte, and others 129 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: who have decided that Israel is not important as an 130 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: ally of the United States of America. It is also 131 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: giving incredible help to the terrorist group of moss And 132 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: there is many that are concerned in Israel about this 133 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: happening in America. In fact, it's been the number one 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: thing I've been asked about is I've been in Israel 135 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: is what is happening with Republicans and conservatives. There was 136 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: a warning on the top page the Jerusalem Post yesterday. 137 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: The headline read a growing cancer. Senator Cruz warns of 138 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: anti Semitism spike on the US right. The sentater says 139 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: issue is accelerated by online normalization of fringe figures. He 140 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: also said the church is asleep. I couldn't agree more 141 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: with that, and he called on Christian leaders to act. 142 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: Senator Cruz delivering a dramatic warning that anti Semitism is 143 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: spreading on parts of the America's right and urge conservatives, pastors, 144 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: and lay leaders to draw red lines and confront it 145 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: head on. After being in Israel, I couldn't agree with 146 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: this more than what I've witnessed since being here, and 147 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: the danger is very high. The danger, as President Trump 148 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: has put it and Senator Cruz have put it, is 149 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: that you now have hardcore conservatives that are turning a 150 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: younger generation to be anti Semitic. There's real anti Semitism 151 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: on the right now, and there are a lot of 152 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: conservatives that are now believing that it's somehow okay to 153 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: say to Israel you're not our ally. I also want 154 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: to talk about national security issues, and it's something we'll 155 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: focus on tomorrow, and that is just how important Israel 156 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: is when it comes to five isis al Qaeda and 157 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: Islamic extremism in the Middle East, and how much intelligence 158 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: they give to America that allows us to stay safe. 159 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: That is going to be part of what we're going 160 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: to talk about. We're also going to talk about what 161 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: I see on the ground. Is I am going to 162 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: visit the site of the terrorist attack where that festival was. 163 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: I'm going to meet with more families tomorrow that loved 164 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: ones were killed and some that were able to come home, 165 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: and the leaders that are having to deal with the 166 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: fallout of the war that has happened for far too long. 167 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: So We're going to take a moment this week to 168 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: talk about Israel and the politics of it. So what 169 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: I'll tell you is this. Go on Facebook and watch 170 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: the video of the mother tell the story of her 171 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: son who has just returned. And listen that story and 172 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: tell me why on earth would we not stand with 173 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: these people that were attacked in a horrific way, the 174 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: worst attack on the Jewish peoples Enthoholocaust. Listen to our 175 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: words and we'll talk more about anti Semitism on the 176 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: right as well. Finally, what I'll tell you is this, 177 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: the people of Israel, they are I'm so thankful for 178 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: Donald Trump becoming president. Yet again, they love that we 179 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: have a presdent that is standing with them and also 180 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: understands there's a difference between right and wrong and good 181 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: and evil. That there is clarity in the world now 182 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: of where America stands with Israel, and it's part of 183 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: the conversation I'm happy to be having. While I'm here 184 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: in Jerusalem. I'll see you back here tomorrow for more 185 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: from Israel. 186 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update 187 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever 188 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to this podcast right now and for more 189 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: in depth news, also subscribe to the Ben Ferguson podcast 190 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: and we will see you back here tomorrow