1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal home that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: for a day? Da state? Is that? Woo woof? And 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Dan and Tye. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Verbal boys and girls. My 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: name is ty Hilda Brandt. That fine gentleman over there 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: as always Dan Rubinstein. This episode all were episodes driven 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: by our good friends over at Geico, Dan Rubinstein. Week 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 2: nine officially in the books, Sir, how you doing. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Better than wake for a second half offense? You had 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: to say it right out of the shoot. You had 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: to say it. I am here. I don't even think 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: we can talk about the bottom of the acc as 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: an entity. It's just Clemson, North Carolina, and I wanted 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: to get into that first and foremost. Not really, but 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm okay. Ty. You're always a site for sore eyes. 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: You look resplendent in a button down, collared shirt. You've 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: got a great night of sleep. You're looking business casual. 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here in a T shirt. If you're watching 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: this live on verbalers dot Com, you're seeing this. But 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: it's always a joy to be with you on Sunday morning. 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: You know that, and you as well. 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: Look, we got a great batch of calls that I'm 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: going to play later on in the show if you 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: stop by to hear your reverbs. We addressed week nine 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: on the preview show as step Up Saturday or as 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: Slay the Dragon Saturday. Really, whatever you were into, you 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: could go with, because there were a bunch of big 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: matchups in the end. I came out of this last 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: night feeling like, Yeah, this is a shut up Tie Saturday. 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Shut up Tie. Yeah, shut up tie. Baylor is not 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: losing to Texas Tech. 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Shut up tie. 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: It's not like Penn State is going to actually beat 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: Ohio State. Not that I honestly believe that, but shut 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: up tie. It's not like Florida is going to hang 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: quote unquote hang with Georgia. All these things that I 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: think we constructed maybe late at night, staring at the ceiling, 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: hoping for things. In week nine, a lot of it 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: didn't come true. We got a lot of what I 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: thought was very unsurprising, what was very expected from some 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: of the best teams in college football. 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I did mention Oklahoma State in losing and 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: being shut out in the most pronounced way as a 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: top ten team by a non top ten team in 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: like sixty years. Yes, it was a sit down tie, 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: shut up tie, So what tie kind of Saturday. And 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: that's great because I'm sure there have been three and 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: a half to four and a half versions of that 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: with my picks, and that's okay, because we put ourselves 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: out there to do we do that's important. We speak 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: with our chests, we sign our names to our very 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: bad picks, and that happens. I don't even know where 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: to start with this one, so I will let you, 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: I will defer to you. But this this was Waldewall entertaining. 57 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: For me, it was wald Wall entertaining. Why don't we 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: start with there? For ball? 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: Or top ten which dropped last morning. If you are 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: listening wondering how can you be part of this poll, 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: go and sign up at Verbaalers dot com. You not 62 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: only support our show, but you can make your voice 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: heard with respect to our top ten. After week nine, 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: it looks like this Georgia and Tennessee one and two, 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: which is wild because they play each other in Athens 66 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: next weekend. We will talk about that game in due time, 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: but just kind of keep that in the back of 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: your mind, like, wow, this is coming. Also three and 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: four Ohio State and Michigan. That game also a few 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: weeks away, but likely that they're going to remain on 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: this collision course towards one another for the remaining I 72 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: don't know, three weeks before we get to that big 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Week thirteen matchup Clemson and Alabama five and six. Clemson 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: and Alabama both with monster games this coming weekend. Clemson 75 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: may be less so on the road at Notre Dame 76 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: at night. We talk about that one. Alabama a big 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: SEC West contest on the road again at night in 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: Death Valley against LSU. Rounding out our top ten, we've 79 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: got number seven TCU, number eight organ your Oregon Ducks, 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: Number nine USC sort of quasi escape Tucson. We'll talk 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: about that one momentarily, yep. And number ten you see 82 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: LA so contingent to pack twelve teams rounding out the 83 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: top ten. Clumping of teams, let's say, clogging up the 84 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: works to the top four. 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: If you are experiencing any team clumping, do see a 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: medical professional? 87 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Any surprises in seeing that top ten? No, I don't 88 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: have huge issue with it. I have issues with certain 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: teams and what that's going to look like down the 90 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: line when they play bigger and better teams. But in 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: terms of how we see UCLA might be a. 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Little bit high at the moment after what they did 93 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: to Oregon, how they performed against a top ten team, 94 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: But otherwise no, I'm good with it. I especially maybe 95 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: we can start in the SEC because of Florida, Georgia 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: and Tennessee whatever. By It's great to see Tennessee in 97 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: that spot. It's great to have that usual team that 98 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: has been far on the outside looking in be squarely 99 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: in the velvet rope area of the college football universe. 100 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: And it will be of particular interest to see what 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: happens on Tuesday evening when the first set of playoff 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: rankings comes out. I just Tennessee would be should be 103 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: part of that. 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: Heay, what happened, But let's start with what happened and 105 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: what happened in the Florida Georgia big rivalry game. 106 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: Florida won this game. Excuse me, Florida covered this. 107 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was like, Holy hell, what game 108 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: did I watch? I'm not prepared for this episode. 109 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: Florida won this game in one sense, but very much 110 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: not in another. Georgia won the game forty two to twenty. 111 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: They went up twenty eight to three at half after 112 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: giving a touchdown to a bunch of their key contributors. 113 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: Right we have Edwards and Macintosh and Bowers and Mconkee, 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: all those guys getting in on the action, much of 115 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: what you'd expect. Florida fought back, though valiantly for those 116 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: of us who had Florida plus twenty two and a 117 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: half or plus twenty three. At what point the Gators 118 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: pulled within a score late in the third quarter twenty 119 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: eight to twenty a nice seventy eight yard touchdown grab 120 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: and run from Xavier Henderson. But then Georgia stopped playing 121 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: with its food a term we've used to your time 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: and again on the show. Stop playing with their food. 123 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: They poured it on in the final couple moments of 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: the game with two scores, ended up winning by twenty 125 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: two points down the stretch. Down the stretch, Georgia looked 126 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: really good, putting this game out of reach. The issue, though, 127 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: is three turnovers, and whenever you're talking about the Georgia Bulldogs, 128 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: of course you're splitting hairs trying to find things that 129 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: are wrong. Everyone's trying to find something that's wrong with 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: the thing that otherwise is pretty good. 131 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Right. 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: The three turnovers, though, are of note, especially going into 133 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: a week where we're gonna have to square off against Tennessee, 134 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: because that is not an offense. It's not Florida's offense. 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: The Tennessee offense is not one you want to give 136 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: extra opportunities. You don't want to give them three extra 137 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: drives next week that could definitely have ramifications in this one. 138 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: They get away with it. I guess it's not that 139 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: big of a deal. 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: But even in the postgame comments Kirby smart as these 141 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: coaches are wont to do, they point out all of 142 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: the flaws that immediately got stuck in their craw and 143 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: I think that will be the only thing really on 144 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: the Georgia side that you would look at and Sarah, 145 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: I think you do improve that. 146 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that not? Was it? Two years ago? 147 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Kyle Trask lit up this Georgia team, this Georgia program, 148 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: And now we are coming away from this game saying, well, 149 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: Georgia won by three touchdowns, But what's going on with 150 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: the dolls? They just be Florida by three touchdowns, should 151 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: we be a little bit worse. That's an incredible turn 152 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: of events to get lit up by Kyle Trask and 153 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Dan Mull and Kyle Pitts and all that. Yeah, you're 154 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: not wrong. The fact that Georgia came out the way 155 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: that they did, so confidently and so assured of their 156 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: game plan and so bad balanced and sets and Bennett 157 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: making plays, and the defense obviously making plays and really 158 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: roughing up Florida early. Florida if we get nothing going 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: on offense early in this game was twenty eight to 160 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: three quickly, right, Florida scored three points in the first 161 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: half of this game. And so I think we're basically 162 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: seeing stretches of Georgia looking human, and that is kind 163 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: of shocking after last year. And I think we just 164 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: need to look at Georgia as its own thing this year, 165 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: because it's not fair to judge Georgia against what they 166 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: were last year to me, because they were just so 167 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: above and beyond. So Georgia is a really strong team. 168 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: They are among the country's best. They are not an 169 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: A plus perfect team every minute of every game. That 170 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: was my takeaway that you can beat a rival at 171 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: a neutral site, even though it's a rival with a 172 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: first year coach, even if it's a flawed rival, a 173 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: rival with its own successful baggage by three touchdowns, You 174 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: got to at a certain point, if you're a Georgia fan, 175 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: or if you cover the sport nationally, or you just 176 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: enjoy the sport nationally, say it's pretty good. Yeah, nice 177 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: little Saturday for the dogs. Nice little I don't even 178 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: have a sound for what they did here. It was 179 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: like they were cooking a steak, They let it rest, 180 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: and then they ate it. That was what happened here. 181 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't have someone to put a sound together for that, 182 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: be my guest. But forty two to twenty your final 183 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: score here. As Georgia goes into a big week against Tennessee. 184 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: Maybe Tennessee wasn't looking ahead to the Georgia game, as 185 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: I tried to tell you. 186 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, maybe Tennessee was not looking ahead. 187 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Shut up. Tie. 188 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: Tennessee wins forty four to six. Damn, this one was 189 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: not even close. No, Tennessee just absolutely obliterated the Kentucky Wildcats, 190 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: both on offense, as they often do, but also on defense. 191 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: Two hundred and five total yards for the Cats. Will 192 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: Levis excuse me, first round prospect Will Levis No. Ninety 193 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: eight yards pass with three interceptions. They basically turned him 194 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: into Spencer Peatris. 195 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: Spencer Peatris had a better day than the Lews did yesterday. 196 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker missed six throws. Another monster game for Jalen Hyatt, 197 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: who is starting to creep into the Heisman discussion as 198 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker continues his run as Tennessee quarterback. It is 199 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: fully shaping into an SEC Saturday next weekend in Week 200 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: ten because of not just the Tennessee Georgia game, but 201 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: also the Bam LSU one that I mentioned earlier. But 202 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: there really isn't much you can say here, Dan, This 203 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: was a quick game in the sense that Tennessee asserted 204 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: its dominance rather quickly. I was watching, waiting, hoping that 205 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: Kentucky would mount more of a comeback, more of a charge, 206 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: put up more of a fight. They had nothing. They 207 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: had nothing here, no answer for Tennessee. And I came 208 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: away from this one feeling like, first off, Tennessee's getting better. Secondly, 209 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: wondering if the big win over Bama a few weeks 210 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: ago now now was some sort of watershed moment for 211 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: the Balls in that they got over that hump and 212 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: now they are able to ascend to some greater height, 213 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: almost like Neo at the end of the matrix. He's 214 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: just waiting for something. Was that moment the Alabama went 215 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: for Tennessee because they were awesome. They were just awesome 216 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: in this game. 217 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just sort of did what they've been 218 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: doing on offense. They were balanced, they were fast, they 219 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: were going downfield. Obviously, Cedric Tillman comes up, comes back, 220 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: not a huge factor in this specific game, but certainly 221 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: adds gravity to the situation that you have to pay 222 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: attention to him if you're in that Kentucky secondary, and 223 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Kentucky secondary had its hands absolutely full. They got torched 224 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: and you saw like sort of the delay routes and 225 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: the crossing routes and Jalen Hyatt, you just creeping into 226 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the Eismen conversation, just creeping into the end zone over 227 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: and over again for Tennessee. And this Kentucky defense has 228 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: been their strength. They were on their heels the entire time. 229 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: They did not look prepared for the tempo, They did 230 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: not look prepared for the speed. Very few teams are 231 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: and will Alabama was not fully ready with a better 232 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: secondary than what Kentucky puts on the field, but no 233 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee is operating. I saw the comparisons. I think it 234 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: was Stu Mandel from the Athletic talking about how there 235 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: are comparisons creeping in, like you said, Jalen Hyat and 236 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: the Heisman conversation about comparisons to the twenty nineteen LSU team, 237 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: which given the magnitude and the manner in which Tennessee 238 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: is scoring and given that, you know, the defense is 239 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: has shown signs of life and holding their own like 240 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: they did against LSU, now what they did against Kentucky. 241 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't think this year's Tennessee defense is where that 242 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: year's it was different. Was it not calling that LSU 243 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: defense but showing signs of life this Tennessee defense as 244 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: the season progresses. If you remember they had the back 245 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: and forth game against pitt obviously back and forth against Alabama, 246 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: but getting more and more stops as they're getting healthier, 247 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: And I mean, it's this year's even though Alabama LSU 248 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: is a very big game. Georgia Tennessee seems to be 249 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: the way that we always used to joke the game 250 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: of the year of the millennium yeah, yeah, no, it's 251 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: it's a huge game. These two teams have. 252 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Been a bit on a collision course, if you would 253 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: believe a lot of the preseason hype. I think we 254 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: were all pretty high on Tennessee. We just weren't sure 255 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: how high we were allowed to be. You know, I 256 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: felt like there was some risk to really putting yourself 257 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: out there and going all in on the balls because 258 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 2: there were questions, right there were questions about the offensive 259 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: line and the defense, and you know, some of that 260 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: stuff is still there, but the offense is playing at 261 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: such a high level right now. As you said, a 262 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: good Kentucky defense just seemed ill prepared. They had no 263 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: answers for it. They were getting confused. They weren't prepared 264 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: for the speed. So it'll be interesting next week will 265 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: be very, very interesting when Tennessee goes Athens. 266 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited. Will Levis did not have himself a knight. 267 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Will Levis was completely under fire, confused by the Tennessee defense. Yeah, 268 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: that was that was wal Towall dominance from the balls. 269 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: Not a really nice kid and a good prospect around. 270 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Pick okay, whatever, not my concern. 271 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: Ohio State forty four, penn State thirty one. How much 272 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: of this game? 273 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Did you watch all of it? I watched a. 274 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: Postgame video with our friend Dave Jones from penlive dot com. 275 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: H We've had him on the show for years. You 276 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: can go back and find a bunch of interviews with Dave. 277 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: I thought he said it best. You think you might 278 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: diffuse all the Ohio State bombs, and then boom, there's 279 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: one you didn't know about, right, and then boom there's 280 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: one you didn't expect, and then there's another one that 281 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: you didn't expect, and suddenly it's over and you're just sort. 282 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: Of dazed and confused. 283 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of what happened here for Penn State. 284 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: I mean, between a defensive end going off who was 285 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: a highly regarded prospect, and between Marvin Harrison Junior, then 286 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Trey Henderson popping you and CJ. Stroud throwing for three 287 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: fifty despite not having his best game of the year. 288 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: Ohio State just has so many weapons on offense, so 289 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: many ways that they can and beat you, and they 290 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: can do it quickly in the blink of an eye. 291 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: Penn State in this game, I thought played pretty well. 292 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: The four turnovers from Schwan Clifford to side. Not ideal, 293 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: not ideal. But we talked a lot about if we're 294 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: constructing this universe in which Penn State actually beats Ohio State, 295 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: how do. 296 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: They do it. 297 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: It goes without saying they got to play the best 298 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: game they've played all year, maybe the best game they 299 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: played in the last five years because of this offense. 300 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: Penn State in this one got about as close to 301 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: that as you would expect. I thought they played pretty well. 302 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: It still was not enough because of the turnovers on 303 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: some level, but ultimately just because Ohio State is really 304 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: freaking good, because they've got all of those dudes across 305 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: the board who at a moment's notice, bam bam, yeah, 306 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: can make you pay for just the slightest oversight on defense. 307 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: That wasn't even the issue for me. Like on a 308 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: certain level, yes, of course we think Ohio State is 309 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: going to get theirs eventually, that no defense is deep 310 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: enough to shut them down for four full quarters in 311 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: the way that Penn State was doing it. The problem 312 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: is the Penn State offense, even when they were operating, 313 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: they were not nearly doing enough to hold up their 314 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: end of the bargain. That the reason turnovers are so killer. 315 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: This is you know, the underthink express this is the 316 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: captain obvious. Thing is you just put your defense in 317 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: such a bind that they can't hold on forever. Penn 318 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: State does not go three deep with excellence at every 319 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: position on their defense, especially when they're given short fields 320 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: because of turnovers. The story here is Ohio State one 321 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: in new ways. They won with defense, They won with 322 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: star power and the way that we saw them do 323 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: with Chase Young or the way we saw them do 324 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: with Joey Bosa, but haven't seen for a minute to 325 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: have that kind of superstar performance from JT Tuey Malau. 326 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: I hope I got that somewhere in the vicinity of 327 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: right who. By the way, JT is not short for 328 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: anything other than his actual first name, which starts with Jay's. 329 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: I think it's Jalen Touey Malau and then he just 330 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: sort of went by JT. I learned that because obviously 331 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: he was the star of yesterday. Yeah. 332 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: He had two interceptions, one that he ran back for 333 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 334 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Yep, force fumble, yep. 335 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: The sack at two sacks, the force fumble. Yeah, I mean, 336 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 2: just a huge game from him. Ohio State always has 337 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: that game change. Seems like every year when Penn State 338 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: plays Ohio State, Ohio State's got that game changer along 339 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: the front seven that impacts the game in a really 340 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: outsized way, and it was JT. 341 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: It was absolutely JT. I didn't love Ohio States play 342 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: calling an overall game plan in the first half. It 343 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: was a lot of weird short stuff and running and 344 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: obviously Mayan Williams gets hurt early on, which made them 345 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more dimensional in the running game with 346 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: only Trey Henderson. It's just different. It's different than what 347 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: they've been used to having in the backfield. CJ. Stroud 348 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: going with a lot of short stuff instead of downfield 349 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: for longer stretches of that game. I don't know if 350 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: that's a Ryan Day issue. I don't know if that's 351 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: a whatever issue. But Ohio State just didn't seem like themselves, 352 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: most of which was because of a very, very good 353 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: and pressuring Penn State defense. But the fact remains, if 354 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: Sean Clifford is going to step back and throw a 355 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: screen pass and throw it directly into the palms of 356 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: a defensive end, this wasn't j T. Twoey Malout jumping 357 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: twelve feet in the air to tip this ball. This 358 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: was him making a heads up, well coached play of 359 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: getting his hands in the air and into a passing lane. 360 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: But it was a predetermined throw on that screen that 361 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: it didn't matter who was in the way of the receiver. 362 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: That's where Sean Clifford was throwing it too. It was 363 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: bad mistake. It was, you know, putting the ball in 364 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: the wrong place. When JT. Twey Malout dropped into coverage, 365 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: it was obviously that he got stripsacked later on in 366 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: the game. Uh, it was just it was It was 367 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: the case and the issue of an offense that didn't 368 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: really know what it wanted to do and then leaned 369 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: into what it didn't do well into high leverage moments 370 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: when that like power t formation on those. 371 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: Power the power listen, fourth and short. Just run a toss. 372 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: Run a toss to the number one five star recruit 373 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: out of Pennsylvania and let him run. Let him run 374 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: for one yard. He can get that. And I've seen 375 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: the numbers on it. The toss on fourth and one 376 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: usually worked pretty well. Just run the toss, don't get 377 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: cute with it. I don't know what the hell that was. 378 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: I will push back a little bit though on the 379 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: Penn State offensive front. You're not wrong. A lot of 380 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: what you're saying is not wrong. But did you also 381 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: not scoff at the mere notion that Penn State would 382 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: move the quote unquote move the ball on this Ohio 383 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: State defense. Obviously they did not win, but they outgained 384 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: Ohio State in this football game. The offense moved the 385 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: ball reasonably well. Parker Washington. I don't know where they 386 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 2: would have been in this game if not for Parker Washington. 387 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I think that's right. 388 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: Who had an incredible effort and certainly was I think 389 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: the driving force behind this offense taking the lid off 390 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: the defense making some big plays here. But the offense 391 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: as a whole did okay, maybe better than we expected 392 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: its to. 393 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: It's easier to outgain a team when your offense gives 394 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: the defense short fields in which they can't physically gain 395 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: a huge number of yards. If the turnovers are giving 396 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: them short fields and pick sixes, tie, that's how that worked. 397 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: Penn State defense played pretty well in this game. That's later, 398 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: the Penn State defense played pretty well. There was again 399 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: that Pinata moment that we talked about with the Michigan game. 400 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: Which happened a little bit more in slow motion in 401 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 2: the Michigan game. In this one, it happened all at 402 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: once where Penn State was in it. They were leading 403 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: in the. 404 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: Fourth quarter, yeah, twenty one to sixteen, and. 405 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: Again found a way to give it away. And that's 406 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: been a story for Penn State in this matchup, in 407 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: some other matchups as well, where they're clearly in the game, 408 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: but they don't have what it takes to get over 409 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: that home, they don't have whatever it takes to get 410 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: the dub and then suddenly, all at once, it gets 411 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: away from them. 412 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: Happened again, twenty points in six game minutes. Was that 413 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: the final stretch of yeah, well they covered, they did cover. 414 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: There's that. Yeah, it's the problem. It's a stretch issue 415 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: for Penn State. It's a stretch issue that you know, 416 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: to start a game at home with that frenzied crowd, 417 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: with the defense playing as well as it did, that 418 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: Penn State's offense was not up to the task. A 419 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: lot of short stuff, a lot of okay, let's get 420 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: four yards on third and three whatever, and not really 421 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: testing Ohio State. And then when they did they had success. 422 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: But it's that stretch stuff that you can't afford to 423 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: do with an advantageous situation, advantageous environment in a game 424 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: where you're gonna need points. Didn't they kick a field 425 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: goal at a certain point That disappointed me a little bit. 426 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: I think they were down thirty to twenty one on 427 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: like fourth and four in the red zone, and like, well, 428 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: let's get to thirty to twenty four, Like that's what 429 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: you think is going to win you this game in 430 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: this moment, that's what you think. 431 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean we could, 432 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: we could second guess the game decisions one for one 433 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: if we want to. It's more of a recurring theme 434 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: with Franklin. They're in kind of these fringe spaces in 435 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: the football game where they need to make a big decision, 436 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: and it just it doesn't feel like they're doing anything confidently. 437 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. There were moments in the screen where 438 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: they were aggressive. 439 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: There were other moments in this game where they were 440 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: maybe more conservative than they shouldn't be. That's probably a 441 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: good example of one. But nonetheless, well, how to say 442 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: it was a better team I think is the big 443 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: takeaway here, definitely, And as you said, the big takeaway 444 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: for a lot of folks should be that Ohio State 445 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: want in new ways. It's not unexpected that they would 446 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: go on the road and win, but I thought this 447 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: was really impressive. They got the best that Penn State 448 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: had to offer and they came away with the dub. 449 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to another top ten team on the road, 450 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: another undefeated team on the road and talk about TCU. Yeah, 451 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 2: weird game, Yeah, really weird game. TCU wins forty one 452 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: to thirty one on the road in Morgantown against West Virginia. Interestingly, 453 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: they had lost four in a row to West Virginia, 454 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: so they broke that losing streak. Two halves that were 455 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 2: very different. The first half was a track meet, a 456 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: combined six hundred and thirty seven yards and forty eight points. 457 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: The second half was a little bit different in that 458 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: it had something for everybody. 459 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: Let's say, yeah, a few. 460 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: Chances for West Virginia to tie the game or take 461 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: the lead again. You see the potential, I guess with 462 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: the Mountaineers Dan, but you also see the inconsistency. You 463 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: see the big moments. You see them with the chance 464 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: to tie it going three and out, gaining negative three 465 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: and having to punt the lay one. Yeah, giving the 466 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 2: ball back to TCU, TCU score, get touchdown, putting the 467 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: game on ice. 468 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: By the way, don't don't gloss over one of the 469 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: worst beats gambling wise at the end of that game, 470 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: getting a free play on an off side and getting 471 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: a touchdown at it. If you had West Virginia, I 472 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: think it was plus seven and a half. Yeah, brutal 473 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: stake to the heart. Sorry to the front will cover. Yeah, 474 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: sorry dogos, sorry dog goes TCU eight oh. For the 475 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: first time since twenty fifteen, Dan, this is viewed as 476 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: a losable game by many in Vegas. We talked about 477 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: it on the preview. A lot of the sharp betters 478 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: were in on West Virginia, so bad beat for them 479 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: for sure. What did we learn from TCU? If anything, 480 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: here we saw more big plays. We know they lived 481 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: by the sword, die by the sword. To some extent, 482 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: those big plays were there, at least in the first half. 483 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: Second half. This was, you know, another one of these games. 484 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: They keep finding themselves in these spots here late where 485 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 2: they have to not necessarily come from behind. They didn't 486 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: have to in this one, but spots late that are 487 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: really testing their metal and again they make it work. 488 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Eight. No, I think it's the same thing, winning in 489 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: new in different ways, especially after what we saw or 490 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: really didn't see from the TCU defense last year. I 491 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: thought they got more aggressive over the course of the 492 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: second half against West Virginia and really put pressure on JT. 493 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: Daniels in the West Virginia much maligned offensive line. Kendre 494 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: Miller is an absolute joy to watch at running back. 495 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: This low key, by the way, has been an incredibly 496 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: overwhelming running back season in college football all over the sport, 497 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: and Kendre Miller is a representative along of course with 498 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: Bjeon Robinson and Deuce Vaughan. Richard Reese at Baylor obviously 499 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: has been a revelation, but just in the big twelve 500 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: in the sport and beyond, so Kendre Miller has done 501 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: a terrific job. Obviously, you know, losing Zach Evans was 502 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: thought to be a bigger deal than it has turned 503 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: out to be for the Frogs and just heartbreaking for 504 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: West Virginia, I'm sure because the receivers made plays. CJ. 505 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: Donaldson made plays, the defense came up big at times. 506 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: West Virginia did get that short field on one of 507 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: the most egregious special teams refereeing calls of all time. 508 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: Bad day for refs yesterday, real bad day when a 509 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: West Virginia player blocked a TCU guy into his own 510 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: punt returner and it was reviewed and eventually ruled. They're like, well, 511 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: TCU touched it and West Virginia recovered it. Like what, 512 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: that's what you gleaned? So that was something. This was 513 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: the game along with I think it was Illinois and 514 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: Nebraska that I mentioned where I was like, this team 515 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: appears to be really good. If they are excellent, or 516 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: if they are a fully realized team, or if they 517 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: are maximizing their potential, their potential, they will win this 518 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: very difficult situational matchup. TCU did it. Proud of you, Frogs. 519 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: You are a very very good team with who they 520 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: have Baylor left. Yes, the revivalry is left, and that's 521 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: that's looming very large. Their November is Texas Tech next 522 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: week at home. Then they've got back to back road 523 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: trips to Texas and Baylor before coming back home to 524 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: close things out against Iowa State. Yeah. I love the 525 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: Big twelve. Big twelve is incredible, so good for the frogs. Yeah, 526 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: where are we going next? Let's stay in the Big twelve. 527 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Let's just round out the Big twelve quickly. Kansas State 528 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: forty eight, Oklahoma State zero. Guess who just got. 529 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: Holy crep Dan, Holy holy whatever. Oklahoma State couldn't get 530 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: anything going at all. They had two hundred and seventeen 531 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: yards of offense. Spencer Sanders thirteen of twenty six with 532 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: a pick. Meanwhile, Will Howard, we got a million tweets 533 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: from people saying that Will Howard the pride of Downingtown. 534 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: Mind you needs to be one of our dudes in 535 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: the dood Alerts segment that we do a little bit 536 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: later on. 537 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: We will do that. 538 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: Of course, four touchdowns in the first half, dudees Vaughn 539 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: went off. It was thirty five to nothing at half. 540 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: Wow wow, I did not expect this. 541 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: You're doing like the Owen Wilson Wow wow wow. So 542 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: this is a stand up Dan Saturday game, because this 543 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: was one of the easier games to preview in my 544 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: mind going into it, as I pat myself on the 545 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: back saying, Oklahoma State with the Texas layover going at Manhattan, Kansas, Like, 546 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: we've seen this kind of situation before in the Big twelve, 547 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: especially and that I liked Kansas State a good deal, especially, 548 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: I said, Remember, I said, man, it's weird to say, 549 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: especially if Will Howard is healthy, because he was beat 550 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: up a little bit the week prior Pride of Downingtown. 551 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Howard Pride to Downingtown. Not a huge arm, but throws 552 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: a touch in his confident and maybe not killer. It's 553 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: not Bryant Monee's pop gun arm. No no, no, no, no, no, no no. 554 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: But he had been a liability before this year, and 555 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: I think the plan was for him to red shirt, 556 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: obviously with Kansas State bringing and Adrian Martinez, so he 557 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: stepped in so admirably. Obviously, Malik Knowles and Philip Brooks 558 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: have been I mean, everybody I think that watches Kansas State, 559 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: certainly more than I do, knew that they are very 560 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: promising receivers, game changing type receivers, and the passing game 561 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: just hasn't always been consistent. With the passing game as 562 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: open as it was at times against Oklahoma State and 563 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: then opening up lanes for Deuce Vaughn. This is one 564 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: of the more dangerous second half teams in the country 565 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: to me, and they are still in line. I think 566 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: they control their ability to take on TCU for a 567 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: rematch in North Texas. I believe at the moment, so 568 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: they're in a good spot. And I love that you 569 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: talk about who did you reference about, oh, Davy Jones 570 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: with like, as soon as you feel like you've diffused everything, 571 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: something else pops up. I think Derek Mason after the 572 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: game talked about like sitting in a canoe and seeing 573 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: leaks everywhere and then realizing all ten fingers in all 574 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: ten tos were accounted for and you're still sinking. That 575 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: was the feeling. Okhoma State is beat up, Spencer Sanders 576 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: is beat up. There's still no running game to speak 577 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: of in still Water or anywhere Oklahoma State plays. And 578 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: so I think there's a really good team that has 579 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: very clear flaws and situationally wrong day, wrong team, wrong 580 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: time of the season. Hold on hands of State, hold on, 581 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on did away with them? What? What 582 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: forty eight to zip? I know, man, I know you 583 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: can say what you want about Alahoma State out of 584 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: the beat up and Dan, I'm just trying to add 585 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: context to the situation. That's all. 586 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: They were six and one back in the top ten 587 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: with plenty of season in front of them, plenty of 588 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: opportunity to jump back into that conversation. Really, whatever conversation 589 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: they want. Playoff thing, still doable, the Big twelve obviously 590 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: still doable on some level. Yeah, this game was a 591 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: sad fart for Oklahoma State. 592 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: That's what this was. This is a disappearing act and 593 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: this was inexcusable. 594 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: Forty eight nothing. Thanks for coming out, guys, thanks for playing. 595 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: That's real bad. Did you re see Mike Gundhy's sons, 596 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback for Oklahoma State. Did you see his interception? Yeah, 597 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, the worst kind of interception when you 598 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: try to do something unorthodox and fling the ball backhanded 599 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: and like, oh nope, that's going to be an issue. 600 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Kansas State wall to wall. I've used that phrase already 601 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: this morning a couple of times. Just an absolute demolition 602 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: of the Pokes. 603 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: Let's round out the Big twelve quickly here, We've got 604 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: a lot to get to. Baylor forty five, Texas Tech 605 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: seventeen stomped them, Oklahoma twenty seven, Iowa State thirteen. I 606 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: appreciate the reminders from everybody in the Baylor community that 607 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: I locked up Texas Tech. I appreciate that reminder. My 608 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: question back to the very fine folks with Baylor community. Yeah, 609 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: would you rather that I locked up your team? Would 610 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: you rather than I locked up your team? Be careful 611 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: what you wish for, kind sir, kind madam, because if 612 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: you want, if you want, actually, let's just do that 613 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: right now. 614 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Todd the week Heady podcasting King Baylor 615 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: minus whatever plus whatever next week against. 616 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: Oklahoma on the road. Okay, you wanted it, now you 617 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: got it. That's not a bad deal. 618 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: By the way, you putting whatever it is that you 619 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: put into the ether with locking up Baylor or whatever. 620 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: Guess what, the Baylor defense will intercept that too, as 621 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: I did. I know Baron Morton three times Texattech was 622 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: trying everything on offense and that defense, the rond Roberts unit, 623 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: well that's not a great phrase. Wasn't having it. They 624 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: absolutely were not having it. They stomped him on the 625 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: ground on offense. Blake Shapin was fine, but really it 626 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: was defense and running and a very comfortable victory. Especially 627 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: they won the sort of second half going away, right. 628 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: They just got stronger and stronger as it went along. 629 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Can we file a petition henceforth to label all of 630 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Richard Reese's touchdowns as Reese's pieces. I'd love to yeah, 631 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: not a sponsor. 632 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: Could be three more Reese's pieces in this game. The 633 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: freshman looking really, really good. 634 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: He got twelve on the year. 635 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: The Oklahoma game very quickly. The highlight was the fake 636 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: field goal. In the second fakefield goal. I don't know 637 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: if I've ever seen that style of fake field goal before, 638 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: but this was just our line is better than yours, 639 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: and we're going to snap it to the holder and 640 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: just hand it off to the kicker who's going to 641 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: run like a split zone right up the middle. 642 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And as he said. 643 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: In the postgame, it was like the parting of the 644 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: Red Sea. He just went in two yards out touchdown. 645 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: Am I seeing this correct? Because I had this game 646 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: on mute above. I think it was Ohio State Penn 647 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: State was happening at the same time. One touchdown drive 648 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: from the offense, is that what I'm saying here. They 649 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: returned an interception to the two yard line and punched 650 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: it in. Then they have the fake field goal, which 651 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: is a touch It's an eventual touchdown, of course, thanks 652 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: to the offense driving the field, but the offense didn't 653 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: punch it in that the fake field goal did. The 654 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: offense was fine. They didn't really do much to the air. 655 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: There were some drops that were involved. Eric Gray was good. 656 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: I think he got beat up a little bit. It 657 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: was a nice enough day for the offensive line. Iowa 658 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: A It's offensive nightmare. 659 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: It was, yeah, I mean it was a nightmarish type 660 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: thing again for Iowa State. 661 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: Three more turnovers, more. 662 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: Of a defensive struggle than I expected. I mean, Iowa 663 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: State plays decently enough on defense, but did not expect 664 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: that it would be this kind of game. Dylan Gabriel 665 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: didn't really have like a banner effort or anything. They 666 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: just all I would say with this one with Oklahoma 667 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: is they weren't electric on offense, but they weren't quite 668 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: as sloppy as we've seen at moments. 669 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: So it was fine. 670 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: It was just a fine win. Oklahoma needed it onto 671 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: next week. 672 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: Let me clarify, win your pseudo clunkers, and if you 673 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: lose to Texas forty nine to nothing and you only 674 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: beat Iowa State twenty seven to thirteen, or whatever, it 675 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: was great, great, awesome, take it on to next week. 676 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: A win is a win is a win. Which conference 677 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: you want to go to next? Let's go to the ACC? 678 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: What nightmare weird week? A nightmare weird week. 679 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: Let me rifle through some of place the results here 680 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: and then we can sort of pick and choose. North 681 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: Carolina scores twenty eight unanswered after going down ten to 682 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: the third quarter to beat Pitt forty two to twenty four. 683 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: We had Louisville, Oh gosh, Louisville. 684 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll come back to this, Louisville on forty eight 685 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: twenty one. There is more to discuss on the wake 686 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 2: Forest side. I promise you Notre Dame forty one to 687 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: twenty four over the Syracuse Orange Ques through a pick 688 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 2: six on the very first play of the game, which 689 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 2: was a bit of a harbinger of things to come. 690 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 2: We had Florida State winning big over Georgia Tech forty 691 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: one to sixteen. Miami, Oh god, another one Miami, and 692 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: quadruple overtime wins fourteen to twelve over Virginia. One of 693 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 2: those types of games for the Hurricanes. We had Yukon 694 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: knocking off BC thirteen to three. We had a very 695 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: excitable reverb that we're going to get to a little 696 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: bit later on here in the broadcast, and last but 697 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: not least, we had NC State by a twenty two 698 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: to twenty one margin on Thursday or Friday earlier. 699 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: In the week. Yeah, I think it was a Thursday 700 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: over Virginia Tech. Yeah, so I mean we can start 701 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: right there real quick. I think it was. 702 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 2: Was it? MJ. 703 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: Morris came in and was actually really nice in the 704 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: second half as they had a really impressive comeback win 705 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: against a Virginia Tech team. Who I mean, this was 706 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: like was it scoreless or three? Nothing? Three? All something 707 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: like that at halftime and then it was kind of explosive. 708 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: A ton of just sloppiness from Virginia Tech of course 709 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: in the second half, but really nice performance from NC 710 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: State to hang with it after a crazy ugly first half. 711 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: Jack Chambers did not have it going in the passing game, 712 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: and they bring in MJ. Morris and he was much 713 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: better at working the ball down the field. So it'll 714 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: be interesting to see what NC State looks like if 715 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: he is in fact going to be the guy now 716 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: moving forward, because you know there's some big games. 717 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Frensis State left Pitt North Carolina looked like he was 718 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: going to be like a back and forth slugfest all 719 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: game long, because that's what it kind of was in 720 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: the first half. Keaton Slovas to Jared Wayne Over the 721 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: whole game was really impressive. Is he beIN Akonda? Bancanda 722 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: a bandon Canda? Excuse me? Had his runs as he's 723 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: been doing basically all year long. North Carolina kind of 724 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: sluggish in the first half, and weirdly enough, it havoc 725 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: plays and stops from the defense in the second half 726 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: led to opportunities for Drake May, who's already one of 727 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: the best four seven quarterbacks in the country. Must be nice, 728 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: Must be nice for North Carolina. I say that, gene 729 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: chiswick baby. I guess I don't know. Pitt's super beat 730 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: up on their offense, Like there's a whole bunch of 731 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: stuff going on with the pit team that doesn't fully 732 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: make sense to me into my eyes. But whatever, North 733 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: Carolina really impressive win that was I think at home 734 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: in Chapel was at home. Yeah. 735 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: And by the way, just for those of you playing 736 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 2: along at home on the Drake May unstoppable be He's unbelievable. 737 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: He had five more touchdowns. He has a seventy seven 738 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 2: percent completion percentage and now through Week nine a twenty 739 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: nine to three touchdown interception ratio. So I've been saying it. 740 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: Carolina is an ultra quiet one loss team, and the 741 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: remaining schedule is at Virginia, at Wake, Georgia Tech, and 742 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: NC State, four very winnable games given the level of 743 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 2: offense that they're playing. So don't sleep on North Carolina. 744 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: I won't play the tailor swift here, but don't sleep 745 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: on Carolina as an eleven win team. 746 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm already ahead to next year. Ty, We're already onto 747 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: Cincinnati next year because Drake May might be the Heisman 748 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: favor going to next year. They open up with South Carolina, 749 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: APP State, and Minnesota to begin the season. That's a 750 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: nice little here. I am. Everybody pay attention to me 751 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: September for Drake May if he's able to perform elsewhere 752 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: in the ACC. First of all, I don't watch Syracuse 753 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: games when they play in the JMA as closely as 754 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: I'd like to, because the angle is the worst camera 755 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: angle and it's so bad. I got my way through it. 756 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 1: But I guess that's sort of the experience of watching 757 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: the Notre Dame offense as well. And you can speak 758 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: to that. A win is a win is a win. 759 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: But man, that was probably not a fun three hours 760 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: of your life. It wasn't well the defense. Watching the 761 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: Notre Dame defense is probably really fun. 762 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 2: The offense was fine for the most part. The bright 763 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 2: spot was that the offensive line was dominant, and they've 764 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 2: been improving. This was a game where they had almost 765 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty yards of the ground both Audric 766 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: estimate Logan. 767 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: Did say that guy's awesome. Yeah, I like watching him. 768 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, big dude twenty carries a piece. Like they're they're 769 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: solely starting to assert their their dominance along the offensive line, 770 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 2: and by that I mean they're just getting better and 771 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: more organized. They were clearly better than cuson this game 772 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: along that front, and so I wish they would have 773 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 2: stuck more with that, but instead they they're just not 774 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: good at quarterback, and so anytime they're trying to do 775 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 2: more at quarterback, there are times where the play calling 776 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: doesn't help Drew Pine or Drew Pine doesn't help the 777 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 2: play calling. I don't want to keep harping on it 778 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: because Notre Dame is where they are at this moment. 779 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: This is who they're going to have to ride with 780 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 2: the rest of the way. I suspect if they thought 781 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 2: Steve Angelli were better, we would have seen him by now. 782 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: But it's just in games like this where they're really 783 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: limited by the quarterback play, and they could have had 784 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 2: this game on ice. Early in the third quarter, Cues 785 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: is able to get back in it and make it 786 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: a one score game. Notre Dame should have been better. 787 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: They should have closed this one out stronger. They could 788 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 2: have had fifty five points I think with a better offense. 789 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, they ran the ball. We'll see what they 790 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: can do next week against Clemson. That'll be a big showing. 791 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: Do you think Marcus Freeman after the game, if he 792 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: congratulated Carlos del Rio Wilson went up to and said, 793 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: sounds that's pretty good. Here's my card up, here's my 794 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: email at nd dot edu. He seemed kind of scary 795 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: and promising, right. I thought he looked really good. Yeah, yeah, 796 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: this was Notre Dame pushing around Syracuse up front. Syracuse 797 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: is the strength of their defense is confusing teams and 798 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: also the back end and really stepping into passing lanes impressively, 799 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame just needed to go straight at them. 800 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: Drew Pye, of course, stared down Michael Mayer much more 801 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: often than he should have. But yeah, this game should 802 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: have been thirty five thirteen. Uh, if not for some 803 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: fits and starts from the Notre Dame Notre Dame offense 804 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: and some predictability from the Notre Dame offense. But look, 805 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: you went on the road and beat a ranked team. 806 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: Syracuse is ranked, right, they were, they were, You're top 807 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: fifteen team. Yeah, hard to complain about that. The defense 808 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: seems to be coming together. Who's the rush end once again, 809 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: that's Fosky. See the guy is a Fosky. He's all 810 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: over the place. He's a he's a real fun guy 811 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: to watch. 812 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 2: Block two punts last week. All right, talk to me 813 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: about Louisville Wake for us, just do it, just do it. 814 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: Just got out of hand. It was as if the 815 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,919 Speaker 1: communications between the booth to the quarterback and whoever's wearing 816 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: the headset on defense got twisted. 817 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: Holy crap. Forty eight to twenty one was a final score. Yeah, 818 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: this game was fourteen to thirteen and a half. Wake 819 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: had ten drives in the second half and eight turnovers 820 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: eight out of ten, eighty percent of their. 821 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: Drives in the second half went for turnovers. I think 822 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: it was six in the third quarter. 823 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to take six a fumble, a fumble, interception, fumble, 824 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: punt pick six fumble interception, then closed out the game 825 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: with a touchdown. That was their drive chart. You don't 826 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 2: even have to do it, No, in the second half, 827 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 2: just beautifully horribly executed. 828 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: It's it's basically we've all had that day. We've all 829 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: had that clunker that you just can't win where you 830 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: just got to say, you know what, I just got 831 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: screwed over by the universe and there's nothing I can 832 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: do right. You get fired, and then you get dumped, 833 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: and then you get to your car and there's a ticket, 834 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: then you get a flat tire in a pothole. That 835 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: like everything that could have gone wrong went wrong, and 836 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: it was just one of those weeks. I still think 837 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: Wake is a pretty good team that just ran into 838 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: the wrong universe on the wrong day, and good for 839 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: Louisville for taking advantage as good teams do, which I 840 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: think they're now five and three. I don't know if 841 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: they're good, but I think the conversation about Scott Satterfield 842 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: got a little bit quieter after beating a rank team 843 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 1: in that manner. 844 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: Yes, how does it feel to you as an Oregon 845 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 2: fan knowing that Mario Crystobaal took his talents to South Beach? 846 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: Sure, of course, maybe feel a. 847 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 2: Little bit scorn. Maybe not as much now given the 848 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: fact that Damn Landing looks pretty good, look pretty comfortable 849 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: in his own right now as the head signal caller 850 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 2: for your Ducks. But how does it feel to just 851 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: look across the world, look at the box score and 852 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 2: see fourteen twelve Miami and quadruple overtime. 853 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: I can tell you how it feels. Ti punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, 854 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: field goal, field goal, punt, downs punt, field goal, punt, punt, 855 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: field goal. Oh god, word, overtime and there's just more 856 00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: punting and field goals. Four overtimes over time I was 857 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: to get till forty twelve. I don't throw divorjac in 858 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: every week tie, but when I do, it's for a 859 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: good reason. This was horrible. This game was horrible. 860 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,479 Speaker 2: Miami needed a field goal as time expired to tie 861 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 2: the game at six six apiece against Virginia six apiece. Okay, 862 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 2: first off, not a nice win, but a win nonetheless, 863 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: So you'll take the win. If you're a Miami fan, 864 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: if you're a Mery Crysto Baal, you know you can 865 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: read the postgame comments if you want to. 866 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: We don't have to go into all those. 867 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 2: You could probably predict without looking what was said. Okay, 868 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 2: you know exactly what these coaches said after a game 869 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: like this. Yeah, Miami, I think is one of our 870 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: candidates as we now turn the page into Tivember that 871 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 2: we could start talking about Miami as the one two 872 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 2: three can Coon team of the week of the month 873 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 2: of the year. 874 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean they hung around in this one. I guess right, 875 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: they focus long enough to win. 876 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 2: I feel like it's not long before Miami just packs 877 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: it in game was ugly. 878 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: Henry Parrish junior ran hard, So no TVD in this one. 879 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: It's Jake Garcia, a former blue chip quarterback, and I 880 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: suppose everybody sort of plays their backup quarterback at a 881 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: certain point, whether it's in garbage time, whether it's because 882 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: of injury, whether it's because of performance. And Miami does 883 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: not have Jake Garcia ready to succeed. The offense is 884 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: not ready to succeed. They have injuries. Everybody has injuries, 885 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: and you can say, well, it's Miami, it's Mario's first year. 886 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: Guess what, it's Tony Elliott's first year. Guess what, it's 887 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: Mike Elco's first year. So I just I think James 888 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 1: Williams didn't play. That's really good safety for Miami. Yeah, 889 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: it's a broken offense with broken play calling, with broken 890 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: broken mindset about what offense should be. And you can 891 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: put together your all star cast of assistants to get 892 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: everybody hot and bothered. In December and January, you can 893 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: sign a top five class, whatever you want to do. 894 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, this is what's on 895 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: the sideline for you, Miami, and you might get a 896 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: little bit better, and you're still gonna have weeks like this. 897 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say. And sure I have my baggage 898 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: as an Oregon fan. I'm just telling you. You're in 899 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: for it. You're stating in for it, all right, You're 900 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: in for this. And look, Miami won the game. It's 901 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: good to win games, and they've had themselves a very 902 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: tough season. This is not an FCS roster, This is 903 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: not a low level g five roster. It's not an 904 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: average Power five roster. It's a good roster. And so 905 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: I I don't know what to tell you get that win, 906 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: but this was ugly. 907 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 2: Really, let's go over to the Big ten. Start about 908 00:45:50,400 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 2: the Big ten. Michigan twenty nine Michigan State seven. Took 909 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 2: the Wolverines a little bit to get going here. They 910 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 2: trailed seven to three after the first quarter. From that 911 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 2: point forward, twenty six unanswered points. The numbers for Michigan, 912 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 2: especially on defense, are really good. Oh yeah, Sparti was 913 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 2: held to one point six yards per carry. 914 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: Really good. 915 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: They have a really good defense. I don't want to 916 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 2: nitpick about Michigan, but that's why I'm here. Continue, that's 917 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 2: why the AD's here. But we talked about Michigan as 918 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 2: a top four team. Michigan is probably going to get 919 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: some love when the first set of playoff ranking strops 920 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: on Tuesday evening. Yeah, we do need to have that 921 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 2: conversation about where would Michigan be if they didn't have 922 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 2: Jake Moody. We do need to talk a little bit 923 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 2: about what happened in this game because it's sort of 924 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: a microcosm for what we've seen at moments throughout the 925 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 2: course of the season. All right, five field goals in 926 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 2: this game against a very shaky, albeit very motivated Michigan 927 00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: State defense. But five field goals, five field goals. Five 928 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: field goals will work fine against most of the teams 929 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 2: in the schedule. Yeah, it won't work against Ohio State. 930 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 2: It's not going to work against Georgia or Tennessee or 931 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 2: Alabama if they end up playing one of those better 932 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,720 Speaker 2: teams in the playoff. 933 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: So what is it? 934 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 2: What is it about this team? Why are they not 935 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: converting touchdowns instead having to settle for field goals. 936 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: I think Jim Harbaugh is fashioning himself as Mario Cristobal 937 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: plus like he is successfully doing what Mario crist Ball 938 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 1: wants to do and has struggled to do. And yes, 939 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: I know, I always make it up Mario Cristaball. It's funny, 940 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: it's weird, Okay. Michigan had one touchdown drive in this game. Yes, 941 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: because I think there was a special team's punt snap 942 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 1: bobble that gave them the ball on the eight yard line, 943 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: So I don't really consider that a drive. They had 944 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: one touchdown drive, and I want to say, was it 945 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: third or fourth down that blake Korm had to break 946 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: the tackle of a unblocked essentially an unblocked defensive lineman 947 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,479 Speaker 1: to get into the end zone. This underscore is something else. 948 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: Blake Orm is awesome. He's really good. Blake Korm is 949 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: full on great at running back from Michigan. He is 950 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: he runs so hard. He is that bowling ball. We 951 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: love bowling balls in this sport. He's what five eight, 952 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: two tens, two fifteen, whatever, He's a bowling ball with eyes. Yeah, 953 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: he is a pain in the ass. And he again 954 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: I said, it's the year of the running back. He 955 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: is the representative, and it's very tough to be the 956 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: representative in the Big Ten. But he has been the 957 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: most impressive running back in a conference with some pretty 958 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 1: impressive running backs. I appreciate that Michigan has an identity 959 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: on offense. I appreciate that the offensive line has ascended 960 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: to this point. I appreciate that JJ McCarthy has a 961 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: higher ceiling than Cade McNamara. But I can also appreciate 962 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 1: what I've seen for the Michigan State defense this year, 963 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: and they've been pretty decent in the red zone and 964 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: pretty terrible elsewhere. They've gotten healthier They're very motivated in 965 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: this matchup because they don't want to be seen as 966 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: little brother. But at the same time, this is not 967 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: a Michigan offense that's at all built to win in 968 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: multiple ways. It's not built to go downfield. Often McCarthy 969 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: probably takes off too soon when he has open guys 970 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 1: and just needs to let them sort of get open. 971 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: I just I don't know what it actually means, because 972 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: I still think they're good enough to beat Ohio State, 973 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: but I also think they play in a manner in 974 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: which they could also lose thirteen to ten to Illinois, 975 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: and that, to me is worrisome. That they don't have 976 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: the ability to turn threes into sevens. And so now 977 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 1: the context of Michigan is, are they getting better against 978 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: the best, whether it's Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, whoever. If 979 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: they end up in the playoff. They don't have that gear. 980 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: They don't have that gear, and for them to mount 981 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: one touchdown drive to struggle like they did to turn 982 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: threes into sevens in the red zone should not be 983 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: terribly encouraging. If you're a Michigan fan. Now beating Michigan 984 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: State twenty nine to seven is an incredible feeling that 985 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: defense is swarming and so good. Yeah, that you should 986 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: be overall thrilled with where Michigan is as a program 987 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: right now. But damn is that disappointing? Is it just 988 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: when you have that five star quarter and this is 989 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: the year where you're so deep at tight end, at 990 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: running back, at receiver, and he's like, well, here comes Moody, 991 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: Here comes Moody. No, man, I just I want so 992 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: much more for them. Well, it's it's I want so 993 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: much more for Blake Korum. Yeah. 994 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a frustrating feeling as a fan 995 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 2: knowing that there is meat on the bone. Yeah, I 996 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 2: mean that there is more out there and they just 997 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 2: weren't able to get it. Michigan is still in a 998 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 2: really good spot. Michigan is going to play Ohio State. 999 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 2: That game is going to have just an incredible amount 1000 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 2: of meaning and gravity to it in Week thirteen. 1001 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: But I don't think you're wrong. 1002 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 2: To say this is also the kind of team that 1003 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 2: could lose like thirteen ten Illinois at home. 1004 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is also it's a Michigan State defense 1005 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: that was bombed by Washington, bombed by Maryland, like did 1006 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: Wisconsin I think in a losing effort because that was overtime. 1007 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 1: Wisconsin scored three touchdowns right during regulation against this Michigan 1008 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: State defense recently, so that to me is the issue now. 1009 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, uh Kean Coleman 1010 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: is really good. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what 1011 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: it means. He's I think he's a sophomore, but big 1012 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: receiver made plays against a really good Michigan I just 1013 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't think the passing game is there. I don't 1014 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: think the running game is there for Michigan State at 1015 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: the moment. I think they need to look in their 1016 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: hearts for what the offense needs to be moving forward, 1017 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: such feelings, Luke, because it's not there right now for 1018 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: Michigan State. Also, weird tunnel stuff again, do you see that? 1019 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunate tunnel stuff. And this was more than just 1020 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: a couple of meatheads yelling things and pushing each other around. 1021 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1022 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh said after the game that two of his 1023 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 2: players were assaulted, that he's working with authorities try and 1024 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 2: figure out exactly what happened. Bring those who are responsible, 1025 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, to light here. So we'll have to wait 1026 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 2: and see what transpired exactly. On that front, but at 1027 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 2: least some of the video that I saw this morning 1028 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 2: circulating on social media is not very promising. 1029 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: So hope everybody's okay. I hope, I hope the injuries 1030 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 1: are minimal. I hope the I hope justice for what 1031 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: you know. I hope everything is instigated, because it's easy 1032 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,959 Speaker 1: to see like, well, Michigan State players just lost their cool, 1033 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: or Michigan State people are going to say the Michigan 1034 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: player clearly instigated it. Here's what I took away from it. 1035 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 1: Solve this problem, Michigan people. Solve this tunnel and locker 1036 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,439 Speaker 1: room issue, and make sure people are not crossing over 1037 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: with your one tunnel and your locker room access. Block 1038 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: teams off and make sure there is an overlap and 1039 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: we'll have less of it. Not blaming victims, not blaming 1040 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 1: purpet what clean up this issue? That's all? 1041 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, or put some fail saves in place. You hate 1042 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 2: to see stuff like that. 1043 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 1044 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: Elsewhere in the Big ten very quickly, Illinois sort of 1045 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 2: sat on Nebraska twenty six to nine. Was the final here. 1046 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 2: Huskers through three picks couldn't really run it two of 1047 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 2: twelve onnth third downs, just eight first downs all game 1048 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 2: and then Casey Dompson got hurt. So Illinois very efficient, 1049 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 2: very efficient in knocking you off Nebraska again twenty six 1050 00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 2: to nine. Iowa win's my twenty over your Northwestern while 1051 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 2: Cats dan. 1052 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: Like the first time in a little bit. 1053 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 2: I think four hundred yards of offense for Brian Farrens 1054 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 2: and the Hawkeys offense. 1055 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: The Cats are really bad. They are so bad. 1056 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 2: The Cats are one and seven on the season. They've 1057 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 2: got Ohio State, Minnesota, Purdue, and Illinois left on the schedule. 1058 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 2: They're going one and eleven. I mean, it's I think 1059 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 2: the die is cast that they're going one at eleven. 1060 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 2: And we had some folks tweeting us wondering, as this 1061 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 2: is it for Fitzgerald. I find that hard to believe. 1062 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 2: I think he will be there for as long as 1063 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 2: he's willing to stay. But it's been a minute, been 1064 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 2: a minute since we could talk about a competent Northwestern offense. 1065 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: So Northwestern has lost to Iowa recently. I take back 1066 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: the illusion with the intro to this game. A really 1067 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: complete performance from Iowa, by the way. Yeah. OK, the 1068 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: air and on the ground, Spencer Peatris was, if nothing 1069 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: else efficient, but they gave the ball to a number 1070 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: of backs. I didn't watch a ton of this game. 1071 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: It was not a high priority for me and sit 1072 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: down tie Saturday, but a nice enough performance to score 1073 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: points for Iowa. It seems as for Illinois Nebraska the 1074 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 1: Brown brothers and Tommy Devido, Sidney Brown on defense was everywhere, 1075 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: and of course Chase Brown is toating the rock. Isaiah 1076 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: Williams big play guy now out wide developing for the 1077 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: ali and I and I think is it in two 1078 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: weeks that they have Purdue essentially for the West? Is 1079 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: what it seems at this moment. I think that game 1080 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 1: is in Champagne, So that's going to be a fascinating 1081 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: watch that I will watch because especially the Illinois defense 1082 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 1: has been very good TV. Anything else in the Big Ten. 1083 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 2: Minnesota won thirty one zip over Rutgers. They possessed the 1084 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 2: ball for forty one minutes. 1085 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, big game from Oebrahem and Tanta Morgan was back. 1086 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: It goes back. Yeah, that's a good, good thing to see. 1087 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 2: Let's bounce over to the SEC okay Ole miss thirty one, 1088 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 2: Texas A and M twenty eight. The bad news first. 1089 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 2: The bad news is that Texas A and M is 1090 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 2: now three and five, and in order to make a 1091 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,439 Speaker 2: bowl game, they have to win three of their remaining four, 1092 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 2: which is not a given. They also gave up three 1093 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety. 1094 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: Yards on the ground to old miss Man. The good news, oh, 1095 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 1: the good news, twenty eight points. They've done it. They 1096 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 1: made it past twenty five, Dan, they did one to 1097 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: thirty on to thirty. 1098 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 2: Twenty eight points for the Aggies and Connor Wegman. Yeah, 1099 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 2: Connor Wegman, if there is nothing else to play for 1100 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 2: this season other than a cheap bowl game, if he 1101 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 2: goes six and six or seven and five, take some 1102 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 2: just take a deep breath, take some solace in the 1103 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 2: fact knowing that Connor Wegman, true freshman, came in and 1104 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,800 Speaker 2: looked really good. Three hundred and thirty eight yards, four touchdowns, 1105 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 2: no interceptions. He played a little bit last week, it 1106 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 2: looked really green. I remember saying he looked green and 1107 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 2: not ready. Well, we saw him this week. He looked 1108 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 2: far more prepared, and I think it's clear that he 1109 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 2: is the future. I know the tone among A and 1110 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 2: M fans is going to be well, he should have 1111 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 2: been playing all along. 1112 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 1: Where was this guy from the start? You guys can have. 1113 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 2: That conversation if you want to. Now, all I can 1114 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 2: do is report and react to what's happened now through 1115 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 2: nine weeks of the college football season. Through nine weeks 1116 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,919 Speaker 2: of the college football season, there haven't been a whole 1117 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 2: lot of good stories on the Texas A and M 1118 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 2: offensive front. So now have this with Connor Wegman, who 1119 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,479 Speaker 2: looks promising, seems the future. To know that he makes 1120 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 2: everybody around him better, whether it's Devin ah Chane or 1121 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 2: Evan Stewart or whoever that I think is promising, I 1122 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 2: would take that. I would feel good about that. I 1123 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't care so much about the record, because at this point, 1124 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 2: who cares. You're already falling far short of expectations. But 1125 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,439 Speaker 2: the Connor Wegman thing, if he continues to progress, would 1126 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 2: be a really cool story for them. 1127 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, especially how rhythmic, how rhythmiclee they came 1128 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 1: out of the gate Mus Muhammed and Evan Stewart, Devin 1129 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: a chain like the offense really look like it had something. 1130 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: I think in the short, medium, long term whatever it 1131 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: will under Connor Wakeman. I mean it's just one game, 1132 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 1: but there was a confidence there. There's a skill there. 1133 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: There's a poise there that as a freshman, if you 1134 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: see it generally means for good. You can tell, you 1135 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: could tell, and you know what. The line in front 1136 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: of him is a hot mess right now. I mean 1137 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: they they've got some issues on offense and they're beat 1138 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: up too. They're beat out on the inside of that line. 1139 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not it's not fair to just want 1140 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 2: to dunk on the A and M offense right all 1141 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,479 Speaker 2: the time, the way the way we're sometimes prone to doing. 1142 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 2: I thought this is a positive story for him. Obviously 1143 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 2: they would like the win, you know, that's a. 1144 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: Positive story for them. Also, ole Miss ran for four 1145 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: four hundred yards cards in Kyle Field. Yeah, A and 1146 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: M in this game. I think I read had eight 1147 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: injury timeouts on defense alone. Okay, obviously they gave up 1148 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: nearly four hundred yards in the ground. 1149 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 2: A reasonable mind couldn't make the case that this is 1150 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,479 Speaker 2: a defense that is starting to wear down after two 1151 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,919 Speaker 2: straight months of being leaned on to try and win 1152 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 2: games for the offense. 1153 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: They may have met their match here. 1154 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 2: They may slowly be starting to wear down a bit 1155 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 2: because ole Miss didn't even try to throw it like 1156 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 2: they just they just bashed their brains in and ran 1157 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 2: for again. 1158 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: Three to ninety ye had not much so it seemed again. 1159 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: I watched chunks of this game. I didn't watch every 1160 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: single snap, every single moment, but a lighter defense like 1161 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: dj Diurkin was playing a lot of dbs in this 1162 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: one and Ole Miss just started counting. It was kind 1163 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: of a vegan defense as not a lot of beef. 1164 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,479 Speaker 1: And Quinn Shawn Judkins is a freshman doing he turned 1165 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: nineteen yesterday. Dan, Oh my god, you are You're thirty 1166 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: years older, Ty, thirty years older than Quinn Shawn Judkins. 1167 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. No another year of the running back elements. 1168 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: He's great the ole Miss I think Jackson Dart was 1169 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: really really good making plays and he should continue to 1170 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: keep growing. There are some flaws to this ole Miss 1171 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: team in terms of offensive consistency and defensive consistency, but 1172 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: to go to Kyle Field, a place where they do 1173 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: not win often, and do what they did, especially on 1174 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: the ground, let's let's reframe this for a second. It's 1175 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: not all about A and M as you and I 1176 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: are guilty of doing sometimes. Ole Miss was super impressive, Yes, 1177 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: awful road and stopp off of a loss. Yep, so 1178 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: ole miss is eight and one. 1179 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 2: Now they're on a buy in their home in two 1180 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 2: weeks against Alabama. Yeah, which will be interesting all right. 1181 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: Elsewhere to round out the SEC, Arkansas won forty one 1182 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 2: to twenty seven over Auburn and Miszoo won twenty three 1183 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 2: to ten over South Carolina. On the Arkansas front, a 1184 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 2: really good effort from kJ Jefferson and Raheem Sanders. A 1185 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 2: really good job by Arkansas going on the road getting 1186 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 2: the w They had two hundred and sixteen of their 1187 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty six rushing yards in the second 1188 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 2: half and just sort of wore Auburn down. They contained 1189 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 2: tank bigs b you know. Auburn I thought put up 1190 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 2: a decent enough fight late, but Arkansas at that point 1191 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 2: was just too far out in front. The big news 1192 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 2: on the Auburn front actually is that they're hiring a 1193 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 2: new ad that they're poaching away to the athletic director 1194 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 2: from Mississippi State, John Cohen. He's been there the last 1195 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 2: seven years. Presumably this will have some downstream ramifications for one. 1196 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Brian Harson yep, Brian Harson very much on the chopping 1197 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 2: block here we'll see what happens. I suspect I know 1198 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 2: what will happen. Auburn has lost eight of its last 1199 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 2: nine games against SEC opponents. 1200 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Marahem Sanders and the entire rushing attack seems to 1201 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: be very very good. Wrong for Arkansas, and Arkansas got stops, 1202 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: got some key stops. The defense has been pretty bad 1203 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 1: this year. But Auburn is that Alcott Seltzer, you know 1204 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 1: that the care for the common defense. I guess so 1205 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: the Alka Selter. Okay, it was a very Sam Pittman 1206 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: win in the way that they laid on him in 1207 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the second half. 1208 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Miszoo jumped out to a big lead. They 1209 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 2: just sort of cruised to victory over South Carolina. Carolina 1210 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 2: did not put up much of a fight on offense, 1211 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: maybe a bit hungover, I don't know. After that, A 1212 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 2: and M win just two hundred yards of offense, two 1213 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 2: turnovers for Mazoo. The first time they've beaten a ranked 1214 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 2: opponent in close to two years. 1215 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: So they've gotten close. Yeah, and it was with LOVET 1216 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: love it. I apologize for getting the name wrong. I 1217 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: watched this game on mute. Had a receiver pop, which 1218 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: does not always happen. Brady Cook was good like it 1219 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: was a It wasn't a high scoring affair, but it was. 1220 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: It was a complete waft to a zoo, a much 1221 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: needed complete win. Yeah. 1222 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 2: Let's close things out with the PAC twelve. Let's USC 1223 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,919 Speaker 2: forty five Arizona thirty seven. 1224 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: USC's back, Dan, Yeah, I mean they won. 1225 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 2: The defense is back. Yeah, yeah, the defense is back. 1226 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 2: They gave up five hundred and forty three yards to Arizona, 1227 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 2: but they won. 1228 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: They won. 1229 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 2: They wanted touson forty five thirty seven. Let me just 1230 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 2: say this, If I could pick one quarterback to be 1231 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 2: in charge of my NFL team, which very much needs 1232 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 2: a quarterback in New York, Yeah, I think I'd pick 1233 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. I know, I said Bryce Young last week. 1234 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: I changed my mind. Now it's okay, You're allowed it made. 1235 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Next week it might be c J. Stroud. I'm excited. 1236 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams still has some flaws. 1237 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 2: He's not a finished product. He's very close to a 1238 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 2: finished product. Yeah, he is incredible. He is incredible, even 1239 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 2: his flaws were like splitting hairs. Still misses some guys, right, 1240 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 2: still does some of the stuff that needs to get 1241 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 2: better at but four hundred and eleven yards and five 1242 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 2: touchdowns in this game. They can count on him to 1243 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 2: make plays whenever they need one. What they can't count 1244 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 2: on him to do is play defense, and I think 1245 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 2: ultimately that will be the undoing for the SESSE team. 1246 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 2: They don't have the guys up front, and against a 1247 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 2: team like Arizona on the road, you can get away 1248 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 2: with it. But if they eventually end up playing against 1249 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 2: a team like Oregon. 1250 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Now you see they got Zach Sharbone. Zach sharbones are 1251 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: getting wide. 1252 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are opportunities here I think for this SC 1253 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 2: team to have some issues. 1254 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: So we shall see. Okay, this game was weird, So 1255 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: no Jordan Addison, no Mario Williams, Caylen Williams. As you're 1256 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 1: correct in asserting incredible, full on incredible and in that 1257 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: sort of new school Johnny Manzel, Patrick Mahomes, Bryce Young 1258 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 1: kind of I am athletic enough to buy myself time 1259 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 1: to find the play I want to make works a 1260 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of the time. Now. So they're down to those 1261 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,919 Speaker 1: star receivers, and they still have guys you know, Stilf, 1262 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Taj Washington, they still have Brendan Rice, they have playmakers 1263 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: that they can count on, but there is something about 1264 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: not pulling away from Arizona. The very strange end to 1265 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: the first half, and by very strange, I mean pretty 1266 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 1: typical for PAC twelve refs at the point who decided 1267 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 1: to stand over the ball as after a completion as 1268 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 1: the seconds ticked off and it it never stopped after 1269 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: the completion, and it's supposed to begin when a ref 1270 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 1: leaves from covering the ball, and it just they just 1271 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: allowed the have to end for maybe all the refs 1272 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: had to poop is that. I don't understand the conceivable reasoning. 1273 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure in the moment that they probably apologized to 1274 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley be like, oh, yeah, we don't know what happened. Woops, 1275 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: that's on it. Lincoln Riley was none too pleased. No, 1276 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: it was embarrassing, But honestly, the whole game was embarrassingly 1277 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: reffed in terms of PI calls or non calls both ways. 1278 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: There was a fourth and eight stop late in this game, 1279 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: in a one possession game, I believe that Arizona would 1280 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: have taken over and a player as Caleb Williams is 1281 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: strung out of bounds. An Arizona player gets in his 1282 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: face and maybe they touched helmets or something like that, 1283 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: but he didn't throw Kayleb Williams to the ground, he 1284 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: didn't shove Caleb Williams. They just got in each other's 1285 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 1: faces as people do. It was called unsportsmanlike conduct. First 1286 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: down US see, And it's just those moments where you're 1287 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: just like, are we gonna let football decide the football game? 1288 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: And I know we have complaints about targeting across the 1289 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: sport and no calls and too many like this game 1290 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 1: was pathetically called and it's an all too familiar thing 1291 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,439 Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve. And as soon as I saw 1292 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: the crew calling this game, I was like, buddy, this 1293 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 1: is gonna take four hours. Things are gonna take longer 1294 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: than needed, and none of it is going to make sense. 1295 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 1: This crew specifically is the worst. 1296 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,920 Speaker 2: Well, but USC you don't take the dub they want, 1297 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 2: they will take the dub. Oregon, Your Ducks forty two 1298 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 2: twenty four over col Oregon was favored by seventeen. They 1299 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 2: won by eighteen. 1300 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Cow got some garbage time points. Bon Nix was 1301 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: incredible in this game. He had all the time in 1302 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: the world to sit back and pick apart a cal defense. 1303 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 1: The running game was fine for Oregon. A lot of 1304 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 1: it was just making plays with bon Nicks. The defense 1305 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 1: completely overwhelmed offensive line. Cal has some pretty good players 1306 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: on offense, but the actual scheme, the actual ability to 1307 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: adjust is just not at all there for Cal. And 1308 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy three people attended this game, so 1309 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: Oregon brought their own juice, as they mentioned on the broadcast, 1310 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 1: and this game was not anywhere near I mean, Oregon 1311 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: started slowly, but it was not anywhere near what the 1312 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 1: final score indicates. 1313 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 2: Utah one on Thursday Night, twenty one to seventeen. Bryce 1314 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 2: and Barnes, the sophomore, got the start in place of 1315 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 2: the injured Cam Rising, who said he told Kyle Whittingham 1316 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 2: before the game that he didn't think he could go, 1317 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 2: so Barnes got the start. All things considered, I thought 1318 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 2: a good effort on the road against the Pac twelve's 1319 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 2: best defense in Wazoo. 1320 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 1: Wazu as flaws Wazoo. 1321 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 2: I think will come out of this game feeling like 1322 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 2: they could have gotten more, but a nice win. 1323 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 1: I thought in pullmans Utah down arguably their best pass catcher. 1324 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 1: They're starting running back and starting quarterback, and still the 1325 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: defense did plenty to win the game for the Utes 1326 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 1: in limiting cam Ward completely, basically shutting down the Wazoo 1327 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 1: rushing attack. A really weird way to play given all 1328 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 1: that was left behind, but good win for Utah for sure. 1329 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 2: And then to round things out in the Pac twelve, 1330 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 2: Ucla wins by twenty five over Stanford they rushed for 1331 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty four yards, and Arizona State knocks 1332 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 2: off Colorado forty two to thirty forty all true. 1333 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 1: I can confirm all of those results. 1334 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 2: We also had UCF knocking off Cincinnati in the American 1335 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 2: This is a really good game. Mikey Keane came in 1336 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 2: for UCF and had it working man. He looked good, 1337 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 2: he looked very confident throwing the football. Twenty five to 1338 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 2: twenty one was your final there And if we could Dan, 1339 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 2: if we could just reach down into the old Patriot 1340 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 2: League slash SCS ranks. Oh my god, of course, Holy 1341 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 2: Cross fifty three FORDOM fifty two. 1342 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: Game of the week of the century of the millennium. 1343 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 2: Did not watch this game. Got tweeted many times over 1344 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 2: about this game as a Cross Saders win by one 1345 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 2: big game. 1346 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: I watched highlights, I watched clips. It looked incredibly exciting 1347 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 1: and I guess good for the Cross not a huge 1348 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 1: factor in this one, but there were playmakers all over 1349 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 1: the field in this one. As far as I could 1350 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: tell elsewhere, it was actually a really interesting day. Charlotte 1351 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,839 Speaker 1: fires their coach. They win by thirty five or something 1352 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: like that. 1353 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 2: Obvious. 1354 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 1: They take down Rice, who themselves having a pretty good year. 1355 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: Toledo beats Eastern Michigan. They needed to come back to 1356 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,719 Speaker 1: do so, but they get to Bowl eligibility. We didn't 1357 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 1: really talk about Florida State Georgia Tech in the ACC, 1358 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,200 Speaker 1: but a nice sort of net crack they needed to win. 1359 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: They got a win, even when they weren't super consistent 1360 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 1: on offense. Florida State, guys, there it is, We're making plays. 1361 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 1: We sort of glossed over the fact. But Yukon is 1362 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 1: two wins away from Bowl eligibility after they take down 1363 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 1: Boston College thirteen to three in Jim morris first season. 1364 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 2: They've got UMass, Liberty and Army remaining on their schedule. 1365 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 2: Got to win two of those games. 1366 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 1: Not too shabby. Appstate demolishes Bobby Mo North Texas with 1367 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,719 Speaker 1: a really impressive win against WKU forty to thirteen. Good 1368 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 1: for I think they have like a forty three year 1369 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 1: old quarterback. I want to say, please, he's nine, so 1370 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: you were thirty when he was born as well. Boise 1371 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: State again continues to roll. Has not lost in the 1372 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: Mountain West. It was Colorado State, so that was to 1373 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 1: be expected. But I think it's Taylor Green and George Hallani. 1374 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,480 Speaker 1: That backfield has been very good against not great competition. 1375 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 1: Coastal came out and absolutely laid the lumber against Marshall 1376 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: early on in this game and just sort of cruised 1377 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 1: to victory. Marshall falls, excuse me, to four and four, 1378 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 1: one and three in the sun Belt, but one of 1379 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 1: those four stop it against against your Notre Dame fighting Irish. 1380 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: Elsewhere our middle Tennessee they improved to four and four, 1381 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 1: including went over Miami. They take down UTAP in El 1382 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Paso twenty four to thirteen. Fresno storms back to beat 1383 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 1: San Diego State. Ty I thought this was over when 1384 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I went to bed. They had to score two touchdowns 1385 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 1: fifteen points fourteen fifteen points in the fourth quarter thirty 1386 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: two to twenty eight. Fresno State gets it done. San 1387 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Jose State very quietly goes to five and two Wyoming 1388 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night in Hawaii takes down 1389 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 1: the Warriors twenty seven to twenty. We got such a 1390 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 1: great batch of calls. Oh good call on. 1391 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,879 Speaker 2: The reverbline at four eight verbal one, so dutifully mixed 1392 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 2: cut sequenced by our guy Shay, who puts his all 1393 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 2: into this every week. A lot of elbow grease into 1394 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 2: the weak nine reverbs. Appreciate everybody calling. Here's what you 1395 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:54,719 Speaker 2: all had to say. 1396 01:10:55,080 --> 01:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I hate reverbs. 1397 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 3: It's will in Mercersburg, Pennsylvania. 1398 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 4: This is Ed and Austin. 1399 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 5: Hello, down and by this is your friend that counts 1400 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 5: from system three. Let's count the turnovers awake for a 1401 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 5: test today? Six doesn't ay thurnovers? 1402 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 3: Before I go drink myself blind, I just need a 1403 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 3: in a losing effort due to alert for Party of Washington. 1404 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,919 Speaker 1: Whoa, it's the dude alert. 1405 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 3: Take you two and low out, single handedly saving me 1406 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,599 Speaker 3: from scabbing my eyes out with cute go buck. 1407 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Then another turn. 1408 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 4: If I had a nickel for every time that some 1409 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 4: tube named j T from Ohio State owned ten State 1410 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, I'd have two nickels, you know, 1411 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 4: which is a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. 1412 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,280 Speaker 3: But I am currently inside riding a bike and set. 1413 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,599 Speaker 1: Outside because I love the eye Hawkeye. 1414 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,639 Speaker 3: What is wrong with me? And why is his sports 1415 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 3: so beautiful? 1416 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 1: A group of cowboys hasn't been with that bad since 1417 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 1: the Firs the Debtor ride. I want two things from you, A. 1418 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 4: Dood alert for my boy while Bill Howard, and can 1419 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:16,520 Speaker 4: you also please. 1420 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,879 Speaker 5: Drop that big, stanky, pulsing guess who just got murder? 1421 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: I turned forty one tomorrow, which is a full touchdown. 1422 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 3: Less than forty eighth points that Oklahoma, stay just get up. 1423 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 3: I figure I could say one last times. 1424 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 5: I'm a man, I'm forty Hey, Sannzi, it's the. 1425 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 3: It's Connor, the guy who writes the solid plate articles 1426 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 3: for your website. As Yeah, wow, I really missed on 1427 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 3: the window of opportunity today. 1428 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,600 Speaker 1: Please don't fire me. What in the hell we do 1429 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: with Vincer Rattler? 1430 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 4: This guy's coming and thinks he's speak, hasn't winning attend 1431 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,080 Speaker 4: quarter and he comes down. 1432 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Here and he doesn't even know I'm out of you. 1433 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 3: I'm playing with my walking out of prow up. 1434 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 1: I think if I had to listen to another media 1435 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: member and talk about. 1436 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 3: How Will Levis is a first round draft pick. 1437 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: I might have to stop watching football for a while. 1438 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 2: Please consult the time of possession chart between Minnesota and 1439 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 2: Rutgers if you want to understand what it feels like 1440 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 2: to have somebody sit on. 1441 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 4: You and slowly thrust their bodyweight on you until you 1442 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:24,679 Speaker 4: lose conscious desk. 1443 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Try a new recipe tonight. Croc podded Spartan A little 1444 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:29,639 Speaker 1: Spicey's pretty good. 1445 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 3: Don't prefer flash fright, go blue? 1446 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Our long national nine. Mary is over Texas, A and 1447 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 1: m finally broke the twenty five point mark. 1448 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 4: Day Holy Cross one in ot to stay undefeated, and 1449 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,559 Speaker 4: BC lost to Yukon. 1450 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: It's a great day to be a crusader. To cross 1451 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: his back, baby, let's go. 1452 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,719 Speaker 4: In the same week that media for quarterback Matt Ryan 1453 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 4: was best, Jeff Happley took this mediurop Eagles and they're. 1454 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,200 Speaker 1: Doing body of media for doing Witholarmente country clubs. 1455 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 2: You may. 1456 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 3: And you. 1457 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 1: Joe co Wow, sir, that was great. That was great. 1458 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 2: An excitable batch of reverbs here in week nine. Thanks 1459 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 2: again to Shay for putting all of those together. I 1460 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 2: think we hit on a lot of those points. We 1461 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 2: hit on the possession in the Minnesota game. We obviously 1462 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 2: hit on the drive to twenty five for Texas A 1463 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 2: and M. So it's always good to see that we 1464 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,280 Speaker 2: are speaking uh to the heart, to the pulse of 1465 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 2: college football out there on Twitter, out there in the 1466 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:46,720 Speaker 2: verballerhood as well. 1467 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone for dialing in. 1468 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 2: Don't forget if you are listening to this show, if 1469 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 2: you made it this far, if you want to come 1470 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 2: see us live. We are excited about the live show 1471 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 2: that we're going to do in about a month's time 1472 01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 2: in Atlanta at Terminal West on Friday, December of the 1473 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 2: second Dan. Yes, it's gonna be a fun show. 1474 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Solble Incredible Com, Soliverablelive dot Com, smell tieshair dot Com. 1475 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,640 Speaker 1: If that's easier to remember. Can we can we get 1476 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 1: to some dudes real quick, real quick. I asked for dudes, 1477 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,360 Speaker 1: and people are like, Will Howard, Will Howard, Will Howard, 1478 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 1: Will Howard, Will Howard, Howard, Will Howard, Quinn, Shawn Judkins, 1479 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Zach Sharbonay obviously all these guys in the year the 1480 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 1: running back Raheem Sanders for Arkansas, Marvin Harrison Junior, Yes, j. T. 1481 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Towey Malau definitely Michigan's dynamic offensive duo of Blake horm 1482 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: and Jake Moody for sure. Uh, Michigan States Keyon Coleman 1483 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 1: I think has that uh that offering as well. Bo 1484 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 1: Nicks for Oregon with sensational Caleb Williams, as you mentioned, 1485 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 1: was very very good. Zach Sharbonay once I say him already, 1486 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 1: I probably did. Ra she Rice for SMU goes for 1487 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: a buck eighty. Richard Reese, who I just constantly confused 1488 01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: Rare she Rice Reese's pieces, of course. Jordan Travis for 1489 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Florida State was kind of incredible, and I love to 1490 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 1: see that he keeps doing that. Drake May for North 1491 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 1: Carolina is probably gonna need to be retired already as 1492 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 1: a freshman as a dude. Otherwise, I'm sure I'm missing 1493 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 1: a ton of guys, but that's who stood out to me. 1494 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 1: Parker Washington for Penn State certainly in that conversation as 1495 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 1: a dude. Oh, I didn't mention this. How about Brock 1496 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 1: Bowers and that ridiculous juggling catch so good? Like Brock 1497 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Bowers is kind of a retired dude at this point, 1498 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 1: but like that was a dude. Catch the bobbling and 1499 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 1: spinning and rumbling stumbling for seventy one yards. That was ridiculous. Dudes. 1500 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,719 Speaker 1: For week nine. 1501 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody for downloading, for supporting the show. Yes, 1502 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 2: courtesy of our good friends over at Apple, we have 1503 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:51,520 Speaker 2: a special bit of bonus content that we are excited 1504 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 2: to offer. We are going to continue recording after we 1505 01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 2: hit stop on this here normal podcast, and we're going 1506 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 2: to give you something a little bit more raw. 1507 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,600 Speaker 1: What this news to me? We call it the postgame tailgate. 1508 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, it's you and I reacting to one 1509 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 2: particular or one grouping of topics around the world of 1510 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,680 Speaker 2: college football. This time around, we're going to talk a 1511 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 2: little bit more about Ohio State and Penn State and Michigan, 1512 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 2: just the Big Ten, some raw reaction to what's going 1513 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,840 Speaker 2: on out there in the world of college football. Go 1514 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 2: on out to our page on Apple Podcasts for more 1515 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 2: if you are interested in subscribing to our premium content. 1516 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 1: I think if you say raw one more time, we 1517 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 1: might be fined by the FCRA. Even though they don't 1518 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: govern us. 1519 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 2: I think we might still get fined. Okay, fair enough, 1520 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,879 Speaker 2: we'll link it up. If you were ever so inclined, 1521 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 2: check out the postgame tailgate. Yes, it's all we got 1522 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 2: for this College football Week nine officially in the books. 1523 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 2: Our next episode will be on Wednesday. We are going 1524 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,360 Speaker 2: to react to the first batch of college football playoff rankings. 1525 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 2: We hope you will be there to join us to 1526 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,760 Speaker 2: react alongside us. For that guy there, my good friend 1527 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:07,520 Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein 1528 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 1: For myself, Tie helling Brand, thanks again for downloaded, listening, 1529 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:15,400 Speaker 1: playing along at a Hole for IROs apart, Stay solid, Peace,