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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke l A edition. Jack. What's happening, Baby?
Speaker 1: We're doing it and we're gonna keep doing it. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been a nice it's been a nice couple of days. Man.
Speaker 1: I guess if you mean showed up and showed out,
Speaker 1: it will be is only getting better. Today will be
Speaker 1: no different. My brother's sacrament is very own. Yeah, come
Speaker 1: on the nine one six mars Man. First off, congratulations
Speaker 1: are in order. You just saw in CMG congrat relations.
Speaker 1: Tell us the how did that come about? Co came
Speaker 1: money Gang? You know we damn they're biologically related to
Speaker 1: my people. So, uh you know it wasn't forced. Something
Speaker 1: happened naturally. I've been in communication with the Big Dog
Speaker 1: for a minute now. He didn't bring me out, I'm
Speaker 1: saying on a summer jam way back before I even popped,
Speaker 1: I think, and uh, you know, he's just been He
Speaker 1: always told me, you know, it's it's room for you
Speaker 1: over here. But I had my own thing going on.
Speaker 1: I got right, got my ship together and then pulled
Speaker 1: up in a function with him. What I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: was the first thing you said when you heard you
Speaker 1: can't wait for me? Get on one of them? Uhiyeh
Speaker 1: beats Yeah, come on you in the STG. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna bite down down two bro? What what
Speaker 1: what it's like? I know the last couple years been
Speaker 1: crazy for everybody, but you're back working, everybody back moving around.
Speaker 1: Um you untreated Trump? You know what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: else is going on? How you starting off? Gangster party spending,
Speaker 1: gangster party lit far as I'm concerned, Uh, new bag
Speaker 1: most definitely important. Yeah. So you know they always followed
Speaker 1: beyond a new real estate. So that's what I've been
Speaker 1: browsing on. I can't stop looking at real estate. I've
Speaker 1: been on uh every damn there, every site, UM functional
Speaker 1: with just trying to find something dope, some type of
Speaker 1: muti unit property sou. But outside of that, I just
Speaker 1: had a family orientated, just functioning with the girly faced
Speaker 1: gang and uh getting to it, getting to it just
Speaker 1: you know, I feel rejuvenated with this new deal and
Speaker 1: uh just excited. Yeah for sure, for sure. What's like?
Speaker 1: What's their life like a little bit not for show?
Speaker 1: But you know it's since a young and always wanted
Speaker 1: to I always wanted you know, just some type since
Speaker 1: a young and wanted young in fel me so h
Speaker 1: now that I'm blessed with that, Uh, just overly excited
Speaker 1: about that spelling be We're waking up five o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, I'm on the line when they lean you
Speaker 1: check it out on top of the grades, you know,
Speaker 1: we stand on top of them about that grade. Some
Speaker 1: school parenting, I remind me of my grandmother so much,
Speaker 1: just the way I operate in that field. And I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I remember when when I got in trouble at school,
Speaker 1: Granny cut my hair. I was devastated. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: worst she made a nigger where uh you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to beat up shoes to school where no more,
Speaker 1: ain't no fly, none of that until you get you
Speaker 1: get raised in order. And that's kind of what I've
Speaker 1: been doing with my eight year old. Like check it out.
Speaker 1: We wear a uniform at a nine uniform school. We're
Speaker 1: wearing uniform, all collared shirts, Ain't no more L O
Speaker 1: L backpacks. We're gonna go get this jam sport playing
Speaker 1: on what I'm saying yeah, so not, but it's it's dope.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I got girls, two girls, so you know,
Speaker 1: I call him the Grillly Face Gang, and uh it's
Speaker 1: just it's a it's a sensitive operation, straight up. And
Speaker 1: he got some girls too, So I got all boys, fella,
Speaker 1: I mean not one six representative Oak Park, Sacramento pops.
Speaker 1: You know, grew up in the streets. Mom had her issues.
Speaker 1: So you're, as you mentioned, your grandmother raised you. What
Speaker 1: was that like for you? Dope? But bringing grandmother was
Speaker 1: always stable, so she had her ship legitimate. So it
Speaker 1: was never like I was switching houses and I'm saying
Speaker 1: in out of different neighborhoods and it was stable. So
Speaker 1: all I known was old part from preschool, I mean
Speaker 1: up until high school. Very strict. She was very strict,
Speaker 1: off the dribble, militant. Uh work that's all she preached. Work. Work, work.
Speaker 1: That was her favorite folk letter word. So I think
Speaker 1: I give my work ethic from her and h whatever
Speaker 1: she ship just like I said, she was just it
Speaker 1: was a dope upbringing. I ain't really function with Grahams though.
Speaker 1: Just what I'm saying, being rebellious up until I was
Speaker 1: like seventeen yeah, and how she did everything for and
Speaker 1: didn't really understand what she's trying to preach. And so
Speaker 1: I got around of these two for sure, most definitely.
Speaker 1: And just like I said, I understood the stability and
Speaker 1: she provided for me um level of protection. And I'm
Speaker 1: saying just you know, functioning with my friends going outside
Speaker 1: and understanding what they had to deal with their households
Speaker 1: like that type of ship on transpiring minds everything just
Speaker 1: legit smooth is a program and um, but like I said,
Speaker 1: I see myself the way I function with my young
Speaker 1: it's kind of like identical the way to the way
Speaker 1: she's functioned with me. Starting to rap game young first
Speaker 1: little first name in the game was a little tim
Speaker 1: So how you get in the rap game? And how
Speaker 1: the first name come about? I heard a s on
Speaker 1: Snoop or Ice que one, two, three and two the folks,
Speaker 1: Doggy Dog and Dr Drell. That was my ship early,
Speaker 1: so uh right then and there I knew I wanted
Speaker 1: to function with it, probably like probably like eight nine,
Speaker 1: maybe ten. But I went to a talent show at
Speaker 1: a like eleven, and I've seen some some some of
Speaker 1: my peers. I think they was twins too, and Uh,
Speaker 1: they performed and after that, I'm like, I could do that,
Speaker 1: feel me and I just I respected the way that
Speaker 1: the people was functioning with him, applied it form the
Speaker 1: whole nine yard. So I'm like, I'm gonna tweak on that.
Speaker 1: Just started tweaking on it. On top of music already
Speaker 1: being in my household heavy Pops you know, I mean
Speaker 1: writing and singing Hunkey in the pin, but he used
Speaker 1: to be somewhat of a rapper, um and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: so I just took I took to it easy. It
Speaker 1: was easy man, the pocket guy study most. I mean,
Speaker 1: my favorite rapper all times. When did your love and
Speaker 1: appreciation for him start from the get go? Dear Mama,
Speaker 1: Dear mama, just going through whatever I was going through
Speaker 1: with with with my parents, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I said, raised by Grahams, so of course, and
Speaker 1: they don't wanted to be with moms every just I
Speaker 1: used to go visit her every weekend. But it was
Speaker 1: like that was my dream as in youngest used to
Speaker 1: be with moms. Um. I wasn't too much weird about
Speaker 1: Pops because he was fake, way strict, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So while he was doing his time in
Speaker 1: the pin I was, I was celebrating. I'm saying you
Speaker 1: hearing me, but yeah, I just wanted to be with moms.
Speaker 1: So when I heard Dear Mama, it just really touched
Speaker 1: me at an early age and I was like, nigga,
Speaker 1: a's he crazy? And then on top of Graham, she
Speaker 1: functioned with him heavy, posters, books, um, recorded interviews. You know,
Speaker 1: that's when we had the vhs she used to record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she loved that was you know, he all around her
Speaker 1: household while he was alive, and so when he died,
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was she She maximized on
Speaker 1: on on his words. And uh yeah, she had her
Speaker 1: own books. I used to steal her books and be
Speaker 1: reading this ship you feel me? So, um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: functioned with pot heavy, but I think it was the
Speaker 1: Dear Mama was really captivating me. Or than Park you
Speaker 1: who you were listening to growing up? Jacker The Jacker
Speaker 1: are messy, Marv You see Marv. Uh you know that's
Speaker 1: when I got the smell of my gangster, so them
Speaker 1: on that type of time. But before that, it was
Speaker 1: a couple of Sacramento artists. Of course, my uncle g P.
Speaker 1: The beast Um and then people within my neighborhood. I
Speaker 1: was heavily influenced by people within my neighborhood. Music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was a similar I mean, I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: older than you, but I tell people when the Sacramento
Speaker 1: and I came to l A, that's when I kind
Speaker 1: of started listening to everything else. But when I was
Speaker 1: in Sack, it was strictly Sacramento music, West Coast music,
Speaker 1: you know, Bay Area music. But it wasn't done really
Speaker 1: outside of that bubble for me, not for sure, because
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't gonna lie with the internet. The
Speaker 1: Internet wasn't booming like that. So it was just whatever
Speaker 1: you had in your circumference. That's what you kind of
Speaker 1: gravitated tours and that's how it was for me. It
Speaker 1: was I didn't get to see what what they was
Speaker 1: doing in the l A. I don't get to see
Speaker 1: what they So the furthest we went was the Bay Area.
Speaker 1: That's where you get Jack and Messy more from keep
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know, but we
Speaker 1: were part of the Bay Area market, so that that
Speaker 1: was just you know, that's a no brainer. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was tweaked I was tweaking on everything
Speaker 1: that was in my circumference, everything that was coming out
Speaker 1: of Old Park, and uh, you know we barely got
Speaker 1: the win't really function with anything outside Old Park, just
Speaker 1: on a political aspect. The child was was the glory
Speaker 1: days of the Sacrament of Kings. He posted a pitch
Speaker 1: with a page of Stoagravitch fella and how do you
Speaker 1: feel about the Kings? Now? Tell me about those days
Speaker 1: when you was a big time Kings fans. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I've been sleeping on the Kings right now.
Speaker 1: But back in the days like that was just that
Speaker 1: was it, you know, I mean we when we had baby.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, William, Yeah, web phone, hear me Storyakovic,
Speaker 1: come on, it was it was against the party and
Speaker 1: uh I still felt like we got played out of
Speaker 1: the rings. Now, yeah, it was with them refs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was a UCLA during that time, so obviously
Speaker 1: growing up a Laker fan. But then you know, the
Speaker 1: Kings just started rubbing off on you start when they
Speaker 1: started getting better. So it was just like I was
Speaker 1: holding it down for Sacre. I've been going to school
Speaker 1: u C. L A with everybody. Kobe on our camp,
Speaker 1: so it was all Laker Kings, but I was definitely
Speaker 1: righting for the Kings though, for sure what you like
Speaker 1: watching now in the in the n B A of course,
Speaker 1: you know I'm a Lebron fan, so I functioned with
Speaker 1: Brian heavy Um and then you know I've been in
Speaker 1: this Georgias diction for a minute. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I'll be I'm frequent the Lakers game, but I'm still
Speaker 1: naturally a king at at heart. What I'm saying gonna
Speaker 1: go down with them, it would go down with just cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all feeling pain across the boarder, yea, it's good taking
Speaker 1: on the chair, feeling pain across the board. When did
Speaker 1: uh come up with the name Marthy with that derived
Speaker 1: from masi? Uh, Mazzarella Mavolaro. I was just in a
Speaker 1: super creative time, feel me again, yeah, Mazarella Varo, I was.
Speaker 1: I was just super creative in him time sentner before
Speaker 1: Mars was eyes eyes as it was the EyeSi is.
Speaker 1: So you can just see right there that I was
Speaker 1: just tweaked out. But nah my, aunty, I think I
Speaker 1: named I named the puppy of minds Mazy Mazzarella and
Speaker 1: then my Aunty just started calling me Marsy. So you know,
Speaker 1: once Aunty started, you know she it stuck when aunt
Speaker 1: call yourselfing this stick, So yeah, it kind of stuck.
Speaker 1: I gave it a meaning money over zeris ain't younger
Speaker 1: and we ran with it, ran with it, and you
Speaker 1: know the a sap I think a sapping it was
Speaker 1: booming at the time, and I just kind of like, uh,
Speaker 1: I like the way that they was. It was putting
Speaker 1: a sap on everybody name. I'm like, we gotta run
Speaker 1: something like that. You feel me where it's like inevitable
Speaker 1: where it got a pope e marsd Mansy hus Mandsy.
Speaker 1: Just we gotta stick that misy on everybody name and um,
Speaker 1: you know eventually like you throw a handful of rocks
Speaker 1: at the stick and then uh, you know, so we
Speaker 1: ran with that and that ship working in our favorite
Speaker 1: There was no plan B for you. But when did
Speaker 1: you really know rap was gonna be your path? I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, I thought early on, I thought I
Speaker 1: was gonna saying be able to compete with bad Little
Speaker 1: Romeo and there I thought I was gonna be able
Speaker 1: to max them out arms And it got kind of
Speaker 1: spicy for it got spunky, so uh you know it
Speaker 1: got ugly. I couldn't like we was I'm talking about
Speaker 1: sending demos out two labels. Uh, just super promotion, street team,
Speaker 1: street team, running it, running the course of anything you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. And uh you know I never ain't
Speaker 1: nobody double back on me. It was never no deals
Speaker 1: on the table for me. And I'm talking about sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: And if you would have asked me at that time,
Speaker 1: I had it. I was the truth of what I
Speaker 1: was doing. But I was overlooked when no Internet involved
Speaker 1: at the time, maybe my Space and M you know,
Speaker 1: it's just ship. I just kept going. So I stayed
Speaker 1: the course. Like you said, there wouldn't no plan B.
Speaker 1: I felt like I just invested too much time, energy, effort,
Speaker 1: and it is so where it gotta even if even
Speaker 1: if I build a cake off crumbs, it gotta work
Speaker 1: in my favorite one way or another. And so I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. It just got to the plant where
Speaker 1: I was like I started, CD Baby came out, and uh,
Speaker 1: I learned how to give my my music on iTunes
Speaker 1: through CD Baby. I put it on CD Baby and
Speaker 1: to end up on iTunes. Just to be on iTunes
Speaker 1: alone was super big for me. You got an iPhone,
Speaker 1: you can go to iTunes, look up. Yeah, I was lit.
Speaker 1: I used to buy my own ship off of that.
Speaker 1: So once I found out how to do that, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, Pennies was coming in, pennies probably like four
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars every project I dropped, And um, I
Speaker 1: felt like if I dropped a hunted projects, I mean
Speaker 1: penny Like I said, pennies was coming in. But I
Speaker 1: felt like if I dropped the thousand and projects, and
Speaker 1: you know they spent a hundred dollars for each project,
Speaker 1: that's a hundred thousand. You feel me in the way.
Speaker 1: It's passionate that I was about music. A thousand projects
Speaker 1: really ain't nothing. Six songs and they could do six songs,
Speaker 1: and six thousand songs they got run through six songs
Speaker 1: a day. So you know, we get a thousand projects
Speaker 1: within three or four years, and you have seeing me
Speaker 1: eventually I eventually be up there. But that's how I
Speaker 1: was just marketing. That's how I was looking at it.
Speaker 1: Running drop a thousand projects or drop a hundred projects.
Speaker 1: Everybody spending thousand dollars on each projects and I'll be
Speaker 1: able to know what I'm seeing me be able to
Speaker 1: make a decent living off of it. But um, I
Speaker 1: was just so passionate about the music that you know,
Speaker 1: I just stayed the course and cap and cap applying press.
Speaker 1: You went to Saint Quentin prison, said something quick when
Speaker 1: you was when you was in there, make you change.
Speaker 1: I felt like I fumbled. I felt like I threw
Speaker 1: it all the way. I was just on my way.
Speaker 1: I was booming. I was getting ten thousand dollars off
Speaker 1: every project I dropped. Um. I remember somebody saying mac
Speaker 1: dray was the was giving mc dray ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for every project, and he was just going crazy, dropping
Speaker 1: crazy projects. And I'm like, I gotta get there one day,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know that I got Tento. I remember
Speaker 1: receiving like not from a company from the CD baby.
Speaker 1: I made ten thousand, seven thousand off a project. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this lit you feel me? And uh I went to
Speaker 1: I went to jail. So I felt like I fumbled.
Speaker 1: On top of that, I had I just had my daughter,
Speaker 1: So I felt like, you know, I'm walking in the
Speaker 1: same footsteps as Pops fumble on parenting and uh, I
Speaker 1: ain't had nobody to blame, very accountable and what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: hold myself accountable. And uh, you know, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: gotta get my ship, I gotta get it together. But uh,
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't have went, if I wouldn't have went
Speaker 1: to Quinton, I was going to hunt him. I was
Speaker 1: hunt them out towers. Yeah, I probably would have wrecked.
Speaker 1: I probably would have told about so Lessing in disguise.
Speaker 1: Blessing in disguise and gave me opportunity to get my
Speaker 1: mind right, figure out exactly what I want to do,
Speaker 1: kind of like pin point of playing and you know,
Speaker 1: just basically just run the course. We touched on fatherhood early,
Speaker 1: but you said, you know, pin came right around the
Speaker 1: time your first daughter was born. What's your favorite part
Speaker 1: about fatherhood? Favorite part about it? Oh, there's so many.
Speaker 1: There's so many. I could think I'd be talking all
Speaker 1: day about that. You feel me. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love when they they just I'm saying, I love asking
Speaker 1: them questions and you know they a all right. So
Speaker 1: we got something like this, I askellent, what do you
Speaker 1: go to school to do? They say, to learn? And
Speaker 1: I'll be like, all right, I can tell what you learned.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, by the grades that you learn and
Speaker 1: it was the key to key to success. And they
Speaker 1: say education and they said in union you feel me
Speaker 1: at the same time. But just like little things like that,
Speaker 1: me incorporating my knowledge or my game, my is m
Speaker 1: and you know, feeding it to them and then they
Speaker 1: feeding them back. Watching them grow. I think that's that's
Speaker 1: probably the dopest part of it is just watching them grow,
Speaker 1: watching them become, you know, just the stages from being
Speaker 1: the bank yeah, from not being able to walk talk,
Speaker 1: it's now just requesting certain things, watching them become, like
Speaker 1: making their own decisions. I don't want cereal, I want
Speaker 1: he goes want. I don't want to watch this, I
Speaker 1: want to watch that. You know I said, I don't
Speaker 1: want that backpackson, it's crazy, um decide what toy they want?
Speaker 1: The story taking an hour I got shipped to do.
Speaker 1: Let's go, you know what I'm saying. So just the
Speaker 1: whole process. I'm in love with the whole process that
Speaker 1: do so most people when they get to their faring
Speaker 1: the road, they buckle. You know what I mean. You
Speaker 1: got them made the plate, you get you get focused.
Speaker 1: You get out of jail, you come out with blot
Speaker 1: it all. Talk about that straight to it. I was
Speaker 1: foaming out the mouth. They been not give me another opportunity.
Speaker 1: My bite downs, my turn, That's what I've been prepping
Speaker 1: for all these years. This was when I said, ain't
Speaker 1: no playing bat. It's the only this s it. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I got an opportunity to show Granny that
Speaker 1: all the times I was ditching school, or you know,
Speaker 1: all that week I was smoking in her backyard trying
Speaker 1: to come up with some dope ass ship, or you know,
Speaker 1: it was times when she was telling me that you
Speaker 1: need to go get a job. Man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, you know, just all just everything I
Speaker 1: put her through, from probation, kicking in her door, et cetera,
Speaker 1: exce to her, from her having to build me out,
Speaker 1: it's my time to pay it back. And I didn't
Speaker 1: want to pay it back with kibbles, you know. And
Speaker 1: nigger was out there doing whatever I was doing, as
Speaker 1: far as participating and making lucrative chicken. But you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen it. I've seen a bigger picture, like it
Speaker 1: was crumbs, you feel me, And so I just wanted
Speaker 1: to I wanted to be able to actually pay it back,
Speaker 1: and I was. I was granted that. I just applied pressure.
Speaker 1: As soon as I came home, UM got straight to it.
Speaker 1: Start seeing page like if somebody give you ten thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. A female and give you ten thousand dollars. Ah,
Speaker 1: it's lit. You're gonna blow through it because it was
Speaker 1: free money, it's tax free. It ain't nothing. I ain't
Speaker 1: earned it. She just ran it to me. Fork it
Speaker 1: over you hear me. But when I made ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars off of wrapping, it was like I gotta reinvest.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I'm gonna just go blow it and
Speaker 1: live there. You'll get a pine of syrup and thug
Speaker 1: with these. Now this year, I got to reinvest this.
Speaker 1: And so once that, once the rap money started coming in,
Speaker 1: it was like, I just can't reinvest in it. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I built the cake off of crumbs and
Speaker 1: it was lit. But as soon as I came home
Speaker 1: already I had my little plan, which was just to
Speaker 1: go crazy and uh fresh shower to the neck. I
Speaker 1: ain't looking for no deal. Early stages were looking for
Speaker 1: a deal. That's where we thought I found the independent route.
Speaker 1: Like I said, CD Baby ran with that. Empire reached out,
Speaker 1: we ran with that, and uh it just everything started
Speaker 1: making sense and started falling in my lap, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know it was lit from there. Two questions. I
Speaker 1: know how I felt when out when I met Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of alle you know, just
Speaker 1: knowing who he was and what he did for what
Speaker 1: I do basketball was it anybody that she was in
Speaker 1: all the first time you met? And the second question
Speaker 1: is how did it feel good to get about the
Speaker 1: hood and to travel and to being other cities and
Speaker 1: having other people singing your music? It was different first
Speaker 1: time I touched down in l A gang man key
Speaker 1: Ways crips. I'm a blood from where I'm from, so
Speaker 1: we don't really function with the key Ways. They segregated
Speaker 1: us into jail houses and all that. Well you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Um, I went to Quentin key Ways
Speaker 1: was working with me, and uh went to l A niggas,
Speaker 1: some Grave Street niggas from Compton niggas. Just think I
Speaker 1: went to I think uh Jeweler and my nigga if
Speaker 1: it called if It being boilered went to his store
Speaker 1: and they got to swap me and the whole parking lot.
Speaker 1: Nigga mans, nigga, nigga, nigga, we love you, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm like, oh, this is mainly
Speaker 1: I'm calling home, like nigga that love us out here,
Speaker 1: and so, uh, that was just dope. I ain't thinking.
Speaker 1: I ain't even think we could reach that forward. So
Speaker 1: for them to just like I'm saying, and you know,
Speaker 1: we're on the other side of the flag. So when
Speaker 1: they embraced me, it was like, oh, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: tweaky on top of the bloods. You know, the bloods
Speaker 1: out here immediately gravitated towards the nigga. So that was dope.
Speaker 1: And then uh, Kansas City. I think that's the first
Speaker 1: place I did the show word for word, verbatim. They
Speaker 1: trying to make me the headline, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I should be the headliner. And there you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm bumptible with just being you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying on the on the on the show, I ain't
Speaker 1: you God do all the extra ship mars head, you
Speaker 1: know what i mean. Just let me perform my songs,
Speaker 1: get up out of here. But after I performed, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: they really function with me, and uh that was crazy.
Speaker 1: That was crazy. And I think that was one of
Speaker 1: the first plays where I came on with like fifteen thousand.
Speaker 1: I only did the show for twenty five huntred and
Speaker 1: then uh, they just buying verses, buying EPs here, and
Speaker 1: then I got five thousand four EP seven songs here, this,
Speaker 1: nigga won two verses here, this, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I sound left with like fifteen thousand. So that was many.
Speaker 1: But what was the first question up to somebody in
Speaker 1: the at Kendrick Glamore? And you know, I think he
Speaker 1: started rapping sleepwalking. I couldn't believe it. Come on, k
Speaker 1: dot sleepwalking nigga word for word, Well you know who
Speaker 1: I am. Come on, it's a gangster party. So yeah,
Speaker 1: most definitely. Now, so he shouted you out in this
Speaker 1: Grammy speech. Obviously that kind of opened your eyes thinking, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of the you know, Eminem just
Speaker 1: named him one of the greatest lyricists in his opinion,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest lyricists of all time. So bumping
Speaker 1: with Kendrick, you end up on the legendary Black Panther
Speaker 1: soundtrack MANIALU. That was a manial you crazy granny got
Speaker 1: to see that. You know, she didn't check out on
Speaker 1: this due to cancer. Yeah before that. She got to
Speaker 1: see that, and that was big for you. That was big.
Speaker 1: That was one of my biggest accomplishments outside of tearing
Speaker 1: or off them chicken McNuggets the world. But she got
Speaker 1: to see that. She went and she didn't you know,
Speaker 1: I ain't prepper for it. It wasn't like I'm in
Speaker 1: a movie. I made my song in the moved, none
Speaker 1: of that. She went to go see what the fam
Speaker 1: just you know. I mean, yeah, she came home and
Speaker 1: was just in tears. Whole squad just like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Not only is we on the soundtrack. I think I
Speaker 1: told her about the soundtrack, but I didn't tell her
Speaker 1: I was in a movie. I kept that. I'm saying
Speaker 1: the sleepwalking in the actual movie. So that was that
Speaker 1: was big. That was monumental. It's funny, I mean because
Speaker 1: it's funny because like I fought with your miss with
Speaker 1: this our first time meeting. Yeah, I mean, like you
Speaker 1: talking about your grandmother, like I was saying, I was
Speaker 1: able to put up bricks from my grandmother post. She passed.
Speaker 1: All the stuff you're saying, it's resonating. I can see
Speaker 1: why I with your music. What I'm saying, Yeah, any
Speaker 1: piece of advice Kendrell gave me that that sticks with
Speaker 1: you or anything you saw in him that that that
Speaker 1: that just made him special in your eyes. Now, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. Just him knowing my music, okay, just
Speaker 1: him knowing that alone, that was like I was like,
Speaker 1: I was mind blowed. I couldn't believe it. Like I
Speaker 1: went home. I went home and told everybody about that.
Speaker 1: And you know that ship and then the alley oops,
Speaker 1: the unlimited Alley oops. And I'm saying, um, he did
Speaker 1: tell me something. He told me that They said, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm big dog where I'm from. He's saying, talking about itself,
Speaker 1: I'm big dog where I'm from. But nigga, all my
Speaker 1: niggas love you. He like, you know, they function with
Speaker 1: me or whatever in case you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But they want to hear that MARSI feel me eight
Speaker 1: and when that that's what they that that ship touched
Speaker 1: him and he like, uh, you know that's as as
Speaker 1: big bro like as you're on a different level, and
Speaker 1: that just kind of sucked. Me up because I know
Speaker 1: exactly what he's saying. I understand. You know, he comes
Speaker 1: from the same terrain we come from. So for him
Speaker 1: to just acknowledge that and and and pass me the
Speaker 1: typical type of flowers. Nigga, that was lit. I'll run
Speaker 1: with that. Anybody you looking forward to working with it,
Speaker 1: you haven't got a chance to work with you. I
Speaker 1: funk with the baby he fucked. He fucked it up. Uh,
Speaker 1: of course, Dreight Future. I don't know how this nigga.
Speaker 1: Kanye ain't put me on Donna. I funk with everybody. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't biased. I'm I'm, I'm creative. I
Speaker 1: function with the whole industry. Um, it's dope just to
Speaker 1: see African Americans running up these type of bags. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying me like, you're no longer as
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't you ain't got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with no you know, politics to turn you into a hater, politics, attorney.
Speaker 1: It's everywhere. So as long as there ain't no political strain,
Speaker 1: n I'm I'm, I'm funking with people. We came down
Speaker 1: to the end of the show. We got quick hitters.
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind. Let us know if
Speaker 1: you could be remembered by any bar or lyric thus
Speaker 1: far in your career, what would it be. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a good one. We didn't came a long way, traveled
Speaker 1: down the wrong way. Ain't final showcases. Thankful for the
Speaker 1: colde case. Yeah, Thankful for the prostitute assuming that we
Speaker 1: soul mate. Thankful for the big homies coached me through
Speaker 1: the dope game. Ship like that. Yeah. Top five Cally
Speaker 1: Rappers all time, Top five Calli rappers. They always whoop
Speaker 1: on me with this one. Niggas be mad. I'd be like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: that's my top five. Chill what I'm saying. Let me
Speaker 1: do my ship, bro. I mean, but oh, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go with Jack. I think last
Speaker 1: time I did that, I forgot to add him on
Speaker 1: the list. So I'm gonna get him out the way immediately,
Speaker 1: just because I did something to my spirit um and
Speaker 1: he didn't help me grow through my little adolescents years,
Speaker 1: through the most important years, you know them years where
Speaker 1: you jump off the porch, where you outside he I mean,
Speaker 1: even when you go to jail and you think about lyrics,
Speaker 1: certain lyrics to get you through them. Them times. Um,
Speaker 1: he provided them from me pop most definitely pot fella.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in the household, everybody let
Speaker 1: that nigga everybody Um of course snoop because he started
Speaker 1: this ship from me. You know what I'm saying, He
Speaker 1: started this gamester ship from me. Um. That was one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why you know, I'm saying they even
Speaker 1: merged into this then we got uh not to cut
Speaker 1: you off. But he laid on that count for two
Speaker 1: and a half hours while he was an interview on
Speaker 1: them what he smoked about ten Blood but laying though
Speaker 1: that's the Feller triples a little to that movie just
Speaker 1: busted to Row headed death row K died. Know he
Speaker 1: wanted them guys, you know, I mean, we can't overlook
Speaker 1: that ship. And uh, you know I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: I gotta my dog, nigga. This is he one of
Speaker 1: them fellas. If you let me tell it that nigga
Speaker 1: mars they can function up with it kind of. This
Speaker 1: rap ship is scared of that nigging that booth. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you Blood one album you could listen to, no skiffs,
Speaker 1: one album I slap all the way through, no skips.
Speaker 1: I gotta give it to the nigga E s T.
Speaker 1: That s T album, That's that's, that's this, this this
Speaker 1: dude for a week. Yeah, it on a seven o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning bringing like damn Jake. We can't go
Speaker 1: right into the streets. But it's free Lucci to funk
Speaker 1: with the fun with the felly he got. He got
Speaker 1: a couple of the motherfucker's I just let play all
Speaker 1: the way through. The one y'all did with Jay Stone's
Speaker 1: Crazy Love. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy too. Courtside tickets to
Speaker 1: any game in history, all right, So they already had
Speaker 1: me at the Clippers shout out the Clippers. Didn't put
Speaker 1: me on the court nigga ten times and they got
Speaker 1: letther Clippers. And I'm saying, uh, but you know I've
Speaker 1: been on course side Sacramento. What I'm saying, I was
Speaker 1: mad thing put me on the big screen. It was lightweight. Hey,
Speaker 1: nigger nine sixteen, y'all quit doing that, ship man, one
Speaker 1: of them guys. They're gonna let them politics. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing me, don't do that. Didn't do that,
Speaker 1: but course side course sunny game in history, any game
Speaker 1: in history. Yeah, you gotta you gotta see me on
Speaker 1: the floor with Jordan and them. Yeah, you gotta shot
Speaker 1: on the floor with Jordan and them. Yeah you got.
Speaker 1: I was around for that. I was, I was paying it.
Speaker 1: You know. I ain't gonna lie. I wanted to play
Speaker 1: basketball before this rap ship. But I got the high
Speaker 1: school and realized that niggas was dunking. And I remember
Speaker 1: Nigga told me, Nick, you got handles, nigger, but your
Speaker 1: jumper off, so he kind of threw me off. From there,
Speaker 1: I'm like all that, but I was hot sauce and
Speaker 1: one that from the and one era, so I thought
Speaker 1: handles was gonna get me there. I thought Ai just
Speaker 1: had handles. I ain't know he had. He was a
Speaker 1: total package. But not for show. But yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I do a Bulls gang Bulls and yeah
Speaker 1: I like the Bulls in Utah. Yeah. On the question, man,
Speaker 1: if you could pick a guess to be on our show,
Speaker 1: who would it be? But you have to help us
Speaker 1: get your answer on the show. I got to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know somebody already. I don't know who you're thinking,
Speaker 1: but I know I'm thinking, Oh, if I put a nigga,
Speaker 1: I sitting nigga right here, on this purple velvet, sitting
Speaker 1: nigga right here on this purple velvet. Huh oh, you
Speaker 1: ain't got traded truth on here. That's my boy. To
Speaker 1: that fan from the same area, Man, come on, get
Speaker 1: my nigga. Trade the truth up here. Man. We're talking
Speaker 1: about good game and is um and wisdom and ship man.
Speaker 1: Stick that nigga. Trade the truth up here, man, because
Speaker 1: that's somebody I can really I'm saying, participating and getting
Speaker 1: up here, big brother function with me saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to throw a name out there, Roger,
Speaker 1: yeah saying in the text, and they don't really appreciate
Speaker 1: somebody I can really get. Yeah, well, man, we appreciated.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the new deal, blessed. Continue to be a
Speaker 1: great father man. And man, I'm I'm proud of you man.
Speaker 1: Being from out that way, it's you know, very few
Speaker 1: of us to really really get out for sure. You're
Speaker 1: definitely doing it now. Man, So we just want to
Speaker 1: come into that. Man, keep doing your thing. Good looking
Speaker 1: on all the smoker. Motherfucker you can catch forget man.
Speaker 1: We gotta give kid bro, yeah my phone. We come
Speaker 1: bear to kids, kill the kids. I want all the smoke.
Speaker 1: We can't do that. I want all the smoke and
Speaker 1: glide travel smoke that store. I want to go get it.
Speaker 1: But bro, you know we can't do that. I gotta
Speaker 1: gotta leave you with something. Come on, I'm going to
Speaker 1: utilize this motherfucker. I'm gonna stick and hunting this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Okay in your pocket? Yeah no, I need a hunt
Speaker 1: of ms. Just good looking, good ship, appreciate, appreciate your time. Man.
Speaker 1: Well that's a wrap. You can catch this on Showtime Basketball,
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